[FairfieldLife] Shankara on maayaa?

2007-11-25 Thread cardemaister
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_%28illusion%29 By Sri Sankaracharya The Supreme Self (or Ultimate Reality) who is Pure Consciousness perceived Himself by Selfhood (i.e. Existence with I- Consciousness). He became endowed with the name I. From that arose the basis of difference. He exists

[FairfieldLife] GyPSii demo on Nokia N95 (8 mins)

2007-11-25 Thread cardemaister
I guess Nokia is not very popular in the US, but perhaps some of you could comment on the usefulness/uselessness of this application, or whatever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tweT57KCgc8 www.gypsii.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: How to stop GlobalBiz Fascism; step one.

2007-11-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Let those who feel they are qualified to fix it do so. But if you do, and the TM movement starts to display less silliness, you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your take on it is different than mine. I observe, hopefully without generalizing too much, that new-ager, relative to the general population, have tendencies to: 1) be more gullible and trusting 2) have let go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually Mainstream, if you were not so stupid, and stopped thinking that your silly whining comments on FFl have any value, meaning, or effect in the world ...at all... ...then, you the might be smart enough to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whatever Happened to 'We the People'?

2007-11-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote: Whatever Happened to 'We the People'? Lurk: We became wee the people. And our handlers are pushing Wii for the people to keep us distracted.

[FairfieldLife] Rolling Stone Almost Impossible Rock Quiz

2007-11-25 Thread TurquoiseB
The definitive test of whether or not you have a life is here. Something to do on a lazy Sunday. http://tinyurl.com/2dupjw http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/17177243/the_almost_8212_impossible_rock_ _roll_quiz No bragging here. My mind is *full* of rock trivia, but it's clearly from

[FairfieldLife] SaaMkhya-suutras: any takers?

2007-11-25 Thread cardemaister
Anyone know, why are saaMkhya-suutra_s thought to be written as late as 14th or 15th century A.D? Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon: 1 sAMkhyasUtra n. N. of six books of aphorisms of the SñSa1m2khya philosophy (ascribed to Kapila , but prob. written in the 14th or 15th century A.D.) [1199,2]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Actually Mainstream, if you were not so stupid, and stopped thinking that your silly whining comments on FFl have any value, meaning, or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: why would anyone listen to people who are saying they were s stupid in the past but now are correct, and we should listen to you? Ain't gonna happen people. Hate to bust your bubble folks, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Actually Mainstream, if you were not so stupid, and stopped

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Peter
I just heard Paul Davies, the author of the op-ed piece, interviewed on NPR the other day. He's a philosopher-scientist with some very subtle reasoning skills. I'm planning to pick-up his book: The Cosmic Jackpot: (subtitle here). --- hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Latin America: One country per week to gain invincibility through student Yogic Flyers

2007-11-25 Thread Peter
Well, I certainly hope this happens. I wish Dr. Alvarez the best. But I have a sneaking suspicion that this will be the last that we ever hear about this. MMY has trained his Rajas to be like him: they value the idea much more than the reality. --- michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Latin

[FairfieldLife] So you want to play God do ya?

2007-11-25 Thread Duveyoung
http://tinyurl.com/2dlrgn This is so entertaining on so many levels. Edg

[FairfieldLife] Voting for anyone but Kucinich joke

2007-11-25 Thread Duveyoung
While walking down the street one day a US senator is tragically hit by a truck and dies. His soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance. Welcome to heaven, says St. Peter. Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high official around these parts,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just heard Paul Davies, the author of the op-ed piece, interviewed on NPR the other day. He's a philosopher-scientist with some very subtle reasoning skills. I'm planning to pick-up his book: The Cosmic Jackpot:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Your take on it is different than mine. I observe, hopefully without generalizing too much, that new-ager, relative to the general population,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One reader review quotes the last paragraph of the book: Perhaps we have reached a fundamental impasse dictated by the limitations of the [waking state]human intellect. There we go!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: From an op-ed by Paul Davies in the NY Times: The idea that the laws [of physics] exist reasonlessly is deeply anti-rational. What physicists

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just heard Paul Davies, the author of the op-ed piece, interviewed on NPR the other day. He's a philosopher-scientist with some very subtle reasoning skills. I'm planning to pick-up his book: The Cosmic Jackpot: (subtitle

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Peter
After reading the op-ed piece I must admit that his interview on NPR was more impressive than this piece. Either I'm missing his point or his point is rather banal. He seems to need to take a good philosophy of science course. To me he appears to be reifying the laws of physics. That is he's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Good post which I don't really have time to reply properly to, but I would say that your point that new-agers are gullible and trusting and have let go

[FairfieldLife] Re: SaaMkhya-suutras: any takers?

2007-11-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
Erik wrote: SaaMkhya-suutras: any takers? Anyone know, why are saaMkhya-suutra_s thought to be written as late as 14th or 15th century A.D? Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon: 1 sAMkhyasUtra n. N. of six books of aphorisms of the SñSa1m2khya philosophy (ascribed to Kapila , but prob.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
That's all that happens, we try to understand and explain by using reason, if a law fits for a while it is called a scientific truth, meaning that it's the most likely explanation for the observable facts, if new facts comes to light the laws change. Nothing anti-reason about it. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'See the grace of Guru Dev'

2007-11-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
do.rflex wrote: Clapping? So, you read all the stuff from Maharishi, bought yourself some Hush Puppies and a cheap suit in order to get that initiator look, during your early days in the TMO when you were working for the Marshy, selling gibberish nonsense syllables to poor students; but WE

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Rory Goff writes snipped: But to know itself as Self is not like any other knowledge, which is indeed dualistic and based on a comparison, on an either-or discrimination. That's why this Self-knowledge is so mind-blowing -- literally. It is so ordinary and so special, so still and so

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread Rory Goff
TomT: From Jean Klein Transmission of the Flame page 65 snip Understanding, being the understanding, is enlightenment YES -- Understanding is probably a better word than Knowledge as Now we both figuratively and literally Under-stand ourSelf, and it is truly and simply a whole-body BEing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After reading the op-ed piece I must admit that his interview on NPR was more impressive than this piece. Either I'm missing his point or his point is rather banal. He seems to need to take a good philosophy of science

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That's all that happens, we try to understand and explain by using reason, if a law fits for a while it is called a scientific truth, meaning that it's the most likely explanation for the observable facts, if new facts comes to light the laws change. Nothing anti-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand his point, he's asking why there should be higher-order explanations of ontological facts in the first place. (That the explanations evolve as we learn more is beside the point.) Or to put it another

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
We take the fact that the universe is apparently orderly as a given; but how is that different from taking the existence of God as a given? But it wasn't a given in science. It is just something we are uncovering about the world by studying it using the scientific method. We didn't make it up

[FairfieldLife] Re: GyPSii demo on Nokia N95 (8 mins)

2007-11-25 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess Nokia is not very popular in the US, but perhaps some of you could comment on the usefulness/uselessness of this application, or whatever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tweT57KCgc8 www.gypsii.com I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's all that happens, we try to understand and explain by using reason, if a law fits for a while it is called a scientific truth, meaning that it's the most likely explanation for the observable

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread Angela Mailander
I have been close to a member of one of these organizations. My brother-in-law. Also, had I done what I was supposed to do at age 18, I would have married into that whole world, and I knew very well what that world was about and what my role in it would be. I mentioned in another post that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We take the fact that the universe is apparently orderly as a given; but how is that different from taking the existence of God as a given? But it wasn't a given in science. It is just something we are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread Angela Mailander
My original statements were 1) I see fascist elements in the TMO. That's not a matter of discussion. I see what I see. Prolly cause I've got Hitler on the brain. 2) I think the New Age may play into the hands of those leading us to fascism because of the emphasis on personal development which

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread Angela Mailander
You make some excellent points which I will think about. new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
What's the difference, other than that the religionists label the question mark God and the scientists don't label it? It's still the same unanswered question. This is the most interesting part of it for me, facing the mystery. I know some Christian monks who would be comfortable with your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread Angela Mailander
Yes, I agree. Supportive. I never said causal and wouldn't. Causes are impossible to speak of in the area of intellectual history. new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This idea that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My original statements were 1) I see fascist elements in the TMO. That's not a matter of discussion. I see what I see. Prolly cause I've got Hitler on the brain. At least as much in the way of fascist

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wrote a paper on this very subject while working on my Master's at Harvard Divinity School... That was in 1980 or so, right after constant immersion in the omnipresent gold light/angels/deities/blah- blah-blah of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Angela Mailander
It is for the sake of the mystery that Meister Eckhart said, I pray to God that he may quit me of God. curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the difference, other than that the religionists label the question mark God and the scientists don't label

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the difference, other than that the religionists label the question mark God and the scientists don't label it? It's still the same unanswered question. This is the most interesting part of it for me,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is for the sake of the mystery that Meister Eckhart said, I pray to God that he may quit me of God. More like, If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Your take on it is different than mine. I observe, hopefully without

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One reader review quotes the last paragraph of the book: Perhaps we have reached a fundamental impasse dictated by the limitations of the [waking state]human

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
Again, what's the difference between the religionist's That's just how God wants it and the scientist's That's just the way it is? A pick up truck of detailed pre-suppositions including, but not limited to: We know some of the qualities of God including what he wants, we know that these qualities

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
Uhu, unlikely. ( 3 years of intense karate training, full blooded perfect health, Scottish with a tinge of English just for measure, and not one ounce of fear within this physique. How about you? ) So how's your ground game? Seen any UFCs in the last decade? --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Good post which I don't really have time to reply properly to, but I would say

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
Let's back up just a bit and go back to Davies's article. He makes his point clear as crystal at the very end: It seems to me there is no hope of ever explaining why the physical universe is as it is so long as we are fixated on immutable laws or meta-laws that exist reasonlessly or are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on maayaa?

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_%28illusion%29 By Sri Sankaracharya Though the emission of ejaculate onto sleeping garments or bedclothes is yielded by the natural experience of copulation in a wet dream,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, what's the difference between the religionist's That's just how God wants it and the scientist's That's just the way it is? A pick up truck of detailed pre-suppositions including, but not limited to: We

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's back up just a bit and go back to Davies's article. Excellent, because this is where the most interesting point lies, his formulation of the third choice. I give his site a read to try to understand what he is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Good

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on maayaa?

2007-11-25 Thread aztjbailey
Now see I have to show my complete and total ignorance here because I really do not know what the heck Shankara is (I will look it up). I do hope, as the years go by, that TM takes care of its advanced students curriculum needs and if, just for example, there is a recurrence of headaches or

[FairfieldLife] Totalitarianism and Its Stalinist / Bevinist Flavors

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
Proponents of the term [Stalinism] argue that it includes an extensive use of propaganda to establish a personality cult around an absolute dictator, as well as extensive use of the secret police to maintain social submission and silence political dissent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinism

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shankara on maayaa?

2007-11-25 Thread aztjbailey
Ok, I found some Shankara information on the web. Very Interesting. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_%28illusion%29 By Sri

[FairfieldLife] Mao and MMY Managment Methods

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
MMY uses a parallel management and organization change method, similar to Mao (and perhaps some western businesses). Essentially, recreate the organization periodically. Destry the old order, create new structures. In time, destroy them and recreate ... SRM == SIMS == Regional Coordinators ==

[FairfieldLife] Re: Inquiry --- or Being a Pawn of the Christian Right?

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uhu, unlikely. ( 3 years of intense karate training, full blooded perfect health, Scottish with a tinge of English just for measure, and not one ounce of fear within this physique. How about you? ) So how's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Uhu, unlikely. ( 3 years of intense karate training, full blooded perfect health, Scottish with a tinge of English just for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Angela Mailander
I don't understand what he means by an external agency. Where is there an agency external to the universe? I'd bet more than a buck that the answer involves consciousness. curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Uhu, unlikely. ( 3 years of intense karate training, full blooded perfect health, Scottish with a tinge of English just for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Uhu, unlikely. ( 3 years of intense karate training,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: I wrote a paper on this very subject while working on my Master's at Harvard Divinity School... That was in 1980 or so, right after constant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: I wrote a paper on this very subject while working on my Master's at Harvard Divinity School... That was in 1980 or so, right after constant

[FairfieldLife] TM, Invincible America Retrospective

2007-11-25 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Invincible America: Call to action; July 2006 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/107519 Except, ejected August 2006 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/104974 Except rejected, August 2006 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/108879 Rejected:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: I wrote a paper on this very subject while working on my Master's at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Shotokan, not yer sloppy bar-room brawlers. Shotakan is a venerable ancient art. Certainly better than barroom brawlers. However it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, nicely put (if I do say so mySelf *lol*); the omnipresent gold- light/angels/deities/etc. would be the subjective (and by that I mean real) equivalent of attaining lightspeed and essential identity with the laws of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't understand what he means by an external agency. Where is there an agency external to the universe? (a) God, or (b) laws of nature. Probably would be clearer if you read the article we're talking about,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
Having studied Shotokan for a number of years before investigating other styles, I have to agree with Curtis about its applicability in the real world. It's similar to what someone said about Maharishi and the Rajas earlier today -- the idea of being able to fight is a great deal more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having studied Shotokan for a number of years before investigating other styles, I have to agree with Curtis about its applicability in the real world. It's similar to what someone said about Maharishi and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Angela Mailander
That's the problem then. The universe either includes all, or it ain't the universe. G. Spencer Brown puts it well in his Laws of Form: It seems hard to find an acceptable answer to the question of how or why the world conceives a desire, and discovers an ability, to see itself, and appears

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the problem then. The universe either includes all, or it ain't the universe. Just read the article, eh?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
Oh, goodie. Story time. Tell us the one again about the infinitely radiant Pride. Ot the ones where particlees collide in this big chamber and go boom boom! Or one about dragons. I love the ones about dragons! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What an

Re: [FairfieldLife] Mao and MMY Managment Methods

2007-11-25 Thread Vaj
On Nov 25, 2007, at 2:14 PM, new.morning wrote: MMY uses a parallel management and organization change method, similar to Mao (and perhaps some western businesses). (snip) Mao's famous saying, could also easily be Mahesh's: A lie repeated a hundred times becomes the truth. -Chairman Mao

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having studied Shotokan for a number of years before investigating other styles, I have to agree with Curtis about its applicability in the real world. It's similar to what someone said about Maharishi and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been a kind of revelation, realizing that random violence is *not* an ever-present possi- bility. I walk where I want, when I want, in all types of neighborhoods and at all hours of the night and day, and have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Uhu, unlikely. ( 3 years of intense karate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Uhu, unlikely. ( 3 years of intense karate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: Shotokan, not yer sloppy bar-room brawlers. Shotakan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in daily life one's mind and body be trained and developed in a spirit of humility, Yup. Describes you perfectly.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: in daily life one's mind and body be trained and developed in a spirit of humility, Yup. Describes you perfectly. No , I failed the test,

[FairfieldLife] 24 as done with 1994 technology

2007-11-25 Thread Vaj
24 as done with 1994 technology http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1788161

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Uhu, unlikely. ( 3 years of intense karate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip THIS IS SHOTOKAN (that I learned, and these are just people trying to qualify for black belt or 2nd dan) http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZlAFJHEu8go Boy, to the utterly untrained eye, that's pretty darned

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@ wrote: Yes, nicely put (if I do say so mySelf *lol*); the omnipresent gold- light/angels/deities/etc. would be the subjective (and by that I mean real)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
... but if you think those videos that Curtis posted are Shotokan, then you know nothing of Shotokan as you claimed. Those videos Curt posted are an insult to Shotokan. THIS IS SHOTOKAN (that I learned, and these are just people trying to qualify for black belt or 2nd dan)

Re: [FairfieldLife] “my message to y ou”

2007-11-25 Thread WLeed3
In a message dated 11/25/2007 6:51:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnDrbagYm24 Thanks, that was the most beautiful message I have received in weeks so full of love a fine reflection of U as well. THANKS

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you were a pro science guy. You know peer reviewed studies? The review of martial arts has been settled in the octagon ring. The videos I showed were challenge matches by brave Shotokan fighters

[FairfieldLife] Re: “my message to you”

2007-11-25 Thread mainstream20016
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Janet Luise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnDrbagYm24 Thanks, Janet Luise, for the joy. Hope you and Tom are well. How's Tom's bro, Bill ?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues

[FairfieldLife] Re: SaaMkhya-suutras: any takers?

2007-11-25 Thread emptybill
Erik wrote: SaaMkhya-suutras: any takers? Anyone know, why are saaMkhya-suutras thought to be written as late as 14th or 15th century A.D? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Willytex: Sage Patanjali, who compiled the 'Yoga

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi announces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread curtisdeltablues
I am very familiar with full contact tournaments. They have many more rules than a mixed martial arts matches. It is a great sport. But we started the discussion about actual fighting without rules about takedowns. One punch one kill is a fantasy perpetuated by people who stay our of the

[FairfieldLife] 3 Million Wariors Ready to Pounce

2007-11-25 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell that to Arjunalol !3 million people drawn up on the battlefield ready for COMPLETE anihilation, and he is in the middle of it prayin' to jesus for help. If 3 million warriors had come bent on

[FairfieldLife] Shotokan dominates Martial Arts_______wasMannounces new role for himself.

2007-11-25 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very familiar with full contact tournaments. They have many more rules than a mixed martial arts matches. It is a great sport. But we started the discussion about actual fighting without rules about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Taking Science on Faith

2007-11-25 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, goodie. Story time. Tell us the one again about the infinitely radiant Pride. Ot the ones where particlees collide in this big chamber and go boom boom! Or one about dragons. I love the ones about dragons! It

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