[FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  Blacks are better at basketball;
  Chinese are better at math and engineering;
  Italians are better cooks.
 
  What other groups can you think of in this manner?
 
 The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women in
 Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an other 
 study, the Scottish men were found to have the longest average 
 lovemaking times with women, half again as much than the average 
 American, who was low on the list. These studies therefore support 
 each other.
 
 Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
 
 My own skills stand as an anecdotal support to these studies, 
 although my staying time is WAY longer than any that were found 
 in the studies :-)
 
 OffWorld
 (Scottish born and bred)

For once Off is telling the truth. There WAS such
a study, it DID appear in peer-reviewed journals,
and the Scots DID have longer lovemaking times
than Americans or men from other countries.

Some feel that the study was biased, however, and
that the Scots would not have scored as high if
their lovemaking partners in the study had been
women. The non-Scots found it more challenging
to keep their...uh...interest up for a sheep.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread gullible fool


And I believe it has been documented among your partners that they score much 
lower on math aptitude having come to believe that what they have been told is 
6, in actually  2
 
And the lady can forget about ever getting cab fair home.

 
...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some 
things than others
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:36 AM








And I believe it has been documented among your partners that they score much 
lower on math aptitude having come to believe that what they have been told is 
6, in actually  2
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in
 peer-reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the world.
 
 The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women in
 Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an other study,
 the Scottish men were found to have the longest average lovemaking times
 with women, half again as much than the average American, who was low on
 the list. These studies therefore support each other.
 
 Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
 
 My own skills stand as an anecdotal support to these studies, although
 my staying time is WAY longer than any that were found in the studies 
 :-)
 
 OffWorld
 (Scottish born and bred)
 
 PS. Why are you the only person in the world that still posts at the top
 of a thread?
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
 
  Here's the complete and total FACT that will put to rest this
 ridiculous discussion regarding superiority/inferiority off different
 ethnic groups. Do you know statistics? If not, sorry, you may not
 understand this. There are different means (averages) for normally
 distributed traits in different ethnic populations. For example
 European-Americans as a group have an average IQ 10 to 15 points higher
 than the average group IQ for African-Americans, 5 to 7 points higher
 than Hispanic-Americans and 3 to 6 points lower than Asian Americans. If
 you control for income the European-American, Hispanic-American and
 African-American difference disappears, but the Asian still remains. But
 the important point here is that within group differences are much, much
 larger than between group differences. WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT YOU CAN
 HAVE A EUROPEAN AMERICAN THAT CAN JUMP AND AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WHO GETS
 A FULL ACADEMIC SCHOLARSHIP TO MIT. Again within group differences
  are much, much larger than between group differences.
 
 
  --- On Sun, 8/24/08, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  From: off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at
 some things than others
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:27 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   Hey Off,
  
   Don't toot your horn so loudly. Our hearing is fairly normal,
 thanks
  What's your problem?
  OffWorld
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk
   shempmcgurk@
wrote:

 Blacks are better at basketball;
 Chinese are better at math and engineering;
 Italians are better cooks.

 What other groups can you think of in this manner?
   
The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women in
Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an other
   study,
the Scottish men were found to have the longest average lovemaking
   times
with women, half again as much than the average American, who was
   low on
the list. These studies therefore support each other.
   
Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
   
My own skills stand as an anecdotal support to these studies,
   although
my staying time is WAY longer than any that were found in the
   studies
:-)
   
OffWorld
(Scottish born and bred)
   
  
 

 


  

[FairfieldLife] Everything that's wrong with American politics, in one photo

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB

http://tinyurl.com/6nbfnx

All that's missing is Bob Barker.

It makes Leni Riefenstahl's iconic images
of Hitler's Germany look classy.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'More on AUM'

2008-08-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 So, 'OM' is a recent invention - it's not even an esoteric 
 mantra, except by courtesy. 'OM or 'AUM' isn't a bija
 mantra used in genuine tantric practice.


P.J. I 27:


tasya ( = iishvara'sya) vaacakaH praNavaH

Bhoja-deva:

[...] nauti stautiiti vaa **praNava oMkaaraH** [...]



[FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  
  My own skills stand as an anecdotal support to these studies, 
 although
  my staying time is WAY longer than any that were found in the 
 studies 
  :-)
  
  OffWorld
  (Scottish born and bred)
 


Ain't no Norwegian Wood even harder?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Everything that's wrong with American politics, in one photo

2008-08-25 Thread bob_brigante


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 http://tinyurl.com/6nbfnx

 All that's missing is Bob Barker.

 It makes Leni Riefenstahl's iconic images
 of Hitler's Germany look classy.



***

LR's Olympia is classy, which is why Time in 2005 called it one of the
greatest 100 films of the last 80 years.:

http://listing-index.ebay.com/movies/Olympia_(film).html
http://listing-index.ebay.com/movies/Olympia_(film).html

As far as the backdrop at the Denver confab,   at first the election
campaigns were pretty sedate affairs, but all American elections have
been a circus since the 1800 election fiasco, which resembled modern
contests in every way. So Bob Barker or some other carny obviously suits
the American group consciousness (Mencken: Nobody ever went broke
underestimating the taste of the American public).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1800
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1800









[FairfieldLife] Kapil Sharma on GPS!

2008-08-25 Thread cardemaister

From Kapil Sharma's GeoBlog on www.gypsii.com
(start reading from to bottom, if at all...)


Posted by View Person Kapil Sharma at 09:16 AM GyPSii for Apple iPhone:

GyPSii is a geo-location and social networking service.
The application puts several different services onto the iPhone and is
used by going to the GyPSii site on the iPhone web browser.

Features GyPSii offers include geo-location services offering the
ability for users to navigate to the location their favorite people
are at. Location based searches for people and places are offered as well.


1 Comments  

Aug 25
The UTM Grid (Universal Transverse Mercator) in GPS:

Posted by View Person Kapil Sharma at 09:11 AM The UTM Grid (Universal
Transverse Mercator) :

The UTM grid is a metric grid system based on 60 grid zones around the
globe and a set of values in meters from reference points of the grid.

Often your GPS receiver will not reference the Band Letter only Zone,
and Meters Easting and Meters Northing.

A typical coordinate that you might see on a GPS receiver would look
like the one below:

12 59095E

3785889N

This means that the location is in Zone 12 and is 59,095 meters
Easting, and 3,785,899 meters Northing.

0 Comments  

Aug 25
GPS Accuracy

Posted by View Person Kapil Sharma at 09:09 AM Accuracy:

The accuracy of the receivers is dependent on the number and quality
of the signals it is getting from the satellites and from a factor
called Selected Availability.

Selected Availability is an intentional error that is introduced into
the signals coming from the Satellites that create readings that can
be off as much as 300 feet. Even so, the accuracy levels with Selected
Availability turned on, is usually within 100 ft. or better.

0 Comments  

Aug 25
Operating Principles of GPS:

Posted by View Person Kapil Sharma at 09:09 AM Operating Principles:

The basis of the GPS technology is a set of 24 satellites that are
continuously orbiting the earth. These satellites are equipped with
atomic clocks and send out radio signals as to the exact time and
their location. These radio signals from the satellites are picked up
by the GPS receiver. Once the GPS receiver locks on to four or more of
these satellites, it can triangulate its location from the known
positions of the satellites. This is a very simple explanation, but
unless you are a surveyor or engineer who needs to understand how to
use GPS to locate within fractions of an inch, this is all you really
need to know.

0 Comments  

Aug 25
Global Positioning System (GPS) technology intro.

Posted by View Person Kapil Sharma at 09:08 AM Global Positioning
System (GPS) technology is a great boon to anyone who has the need to
navigate either great or small distances. This wonderful navigation
technology was actually first available for government use back in the
late 1970s. In the past ten or so years, It has been made available to
the general public in the form of handheld receivers that use this
satellite technology provided by the U.S. government.







[FairfieldLife] 'Hope Leads POW'

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
Obama Leads McCain by 49% to 43% in Post-ABC Poll 



Nadine Elsibai Sun Aug 24, 11:53 AM ET 

Aug. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama leads 
Republican rival John McCain by 49 percent to 43 percent nationwide among 
registered voters, according to a Washington Post-ABC News poll released today. 


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The results were little changed from a similar survey in mid-July, the Post 
said. The latest survey was conducted Aug. 19-22, before Obama announced he had 
chosen Senator Joe Biden of Delaware to be his vice presidential running mate. 
Three- quarters of registered voters, in answer to a hypothetical question, 
said choosing Biden wouldn't influence their vote either way, the Post 
reported. 
The poll also showed that 20 percent of those who supported Senator Hillary 
Clinton of New York for the Democratic presidential nomination now support 
Arizona Senator McCain, while 70 percent of her supporters back Obama, the 
highest level since she suspended her campaign in June, the Post said. 
The latest nationwide poll of 1,108 adults included interviews with 916 
registered voters. The poll, and the results among registered voters, have a 
margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. 
To contact the reporter on this story: Nadine Elsibai in Washington at [EMAIL 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Everything that's wrong with American politics, in one photo

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
 
  http://tinyurl.com/6nbfnx
 
  All that's missing is Bob Barker.
 
  It makes Leni Riefenstahl's iconic images
  of Hitler's Germany look classy.
 
 
 
 ***
 
 LR's Olympia is classy, which is why Time in 2005 called it one of 
the
 greatest 100 films of the last 80 years.:
 
 http://listing-index.ebay.com/movies/Olympia_(film).html
 http://listing-index.ebay.com/movies/Olympia_(film).html
 
 As far as the backdrop at the Denver confab,   at first the election
 campaigns were pretty sedate affairs, but all American elections 
have
 been a circus since the 1800 election fiasco, which resembled modern
 contests in every way. So Bob Barker or some other carny obviously 
suits
 the American group consciousness (Mencken: Nobody ever went broke
 underestimating the taste of the American public).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1800
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_180
0
 
I heard it was designed by the 'Super-Bowl' people...
In America, politics is kind of like football...
It sort of has the double-wide trailer look-
Like a stage for Madonna or Micheal Jackson.
So, it's kind of perfect for the Clintons...
Hopefully the actually stadium will be less hokee..
Barack is hoping for a 'Beatles-Like reception'...
'Imagine there's no country, it isn't hard to do...
Nothing to kill or die for, and no religion too!'
'Here comes the Sun'...
What a celebrity he is! Wowy Zowy...
R.G.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of the caucuses...

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mainstream20016 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
 wrote:
 
  On Aug 23, 2008, at 11:52 AM, authfriend wrote:
  
   Excerpt:
  
   This documentary is about the disenfranchising of American
   citizens by the Democratic Party and the Obama Campaign
   Democrats have sent in their stories from all parts of
   America. We want to be heard and let the country know how
   our party has sanctioned the actions of what we feel are
   Obama campaign Chicago Machine dirty politics. We believe
   this infamous campaign of change from Chicago encouraged
   and created an army to steal caucus packets, falsify
   documents, change results, allow unregistered people to
   vote, scare and intimidate Hillary supporters, stalk them,
   threaten them, lock them out of their polling places,
   silence their voices and stop their right to vote, which
   is, of course, all documented in We Will Not Be Silenced.
  
  OK, Judy's right, I'll finally admit it.
  
  Obama won in Iowa after carefully and secretly organizing
  an army of supporters to threaten, bully, intimidate and
  even slap around Hillary's supporters.  I managed to
  get a copy of the instructions, and smacking around the
  opposition was the # 1 priority--by any means necessary,
  and all that, you know.  They thought they could keep it a secret,
  but Hill's crack  team was just too good.
  
  My candidate lost, and I won't let you forget it!  Boo hoo.
  
  Sal
 
 
 
 Long ago I learned political campaigns project mercilessly upon 
their
 opponents. Hillary diehards project ceaselessly. Virtually 
everything
 they say about Obama is rarely accurate about BHO, but is true about
 Hillary multiple times over Thanks, Sal, for temporarily 
deflating
 the Projection Machine.

For the Dems Caucus in Washington State...we were told to wear boots 
and bring whips (it's kind of kinky in Seattle(only kidding) 
Actually it was very peaceful; no problems at all.
It was all computerized, and they had the results in about two hours.
Obama got 2/3 if the total vote there...
R.G.




[FairfieldLife] How does a God stop being a God?

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
How does a God stop being a God?


We think in secret… and it comes to pass… this world… this land… is
but our looking glass…… Alice in Wonderland.

How does a God stop being a god?

How does a God… that is assumed; within that term, to be ALL POWERFUL…
ALL KNOWING…. INFINITE….. UNLIMITED….. Or dare we say the Lord him/her
self Stop BEING a God?

How does a God, PRETEND NOT to Be a God….. NOT to KNOW or NOT REMEMBER
who it is… or Not REMEMBER the POWER that is contained within it’s self…?

The Game of PRETEND … NOT TO KNOW… who you are, has became a fun game
for the Immortal ALL POWERFUL Ones…. Just imagine, you have AMNESIA;
you have forgotten your true name, rank and signature pattern. This
allows you to lower yourself to that peasant on the street.. Or get
into a big drawn out DRAMA with your family or friends. Or even
Perhaps, you have chose to paint your picture “of self” as one of
those scoundrels who takes advantage of people for your own personal
gain… and the stories of what we identify as “OUR LIFE” takes on a
whole new meaning as we take a moment to to view our display of our
self from a NEW POINT OF VIEW.

What is it that is behind your eyes? Who do you SEE when you VIEW YOU
in the Mirror of Life?

What MIND with IMAGINATIONS have not only HELD within your mind the
capturing of your self-identities; and has also integrated your self
within each and every one of those Illusionary Dreams to become the
ILLUSIONS from your mind.

If you start from a simple point of VIEW FIRST… that YOU… that
glorious person who’s eyes are capturing these words and integrating
them within that mind within you… in these precious few moment… you
and I, YOU, and this written message from within you, YOU, the reader
are ALL the SAME ONE.

Someplace within you, YOU have PROJECTED a writing, a book, a scribe,
to bare witness to who you be. This scribe is one within you. You are
the author of the message and the reader. Without your eyes to view
these words; without your mind to understand and capture the signature
pattern of these words,this message does not exist for you.

This message is a signature pattern of Vibrations that are captured
together. These words that appear to be projected onto this objected
that you are viewing, is an amalgamated pattern that is WHOLE and
COMPLETE. It represents an unseen ENERGY amalgamated. This PATTERING
that is the very essence of YOU... or COSMIC FORCES; simply VIBRATES
and represents ONE SIGNATURE PATTERN; One POINT OF VIEW; in the
billions upon billions of wave forms.

Behind this message; there is THE ONE; an energy pattern representing
ONE FOCAL POINT of attention, within billions of choices displayed as
a projected picture of vibrations. This is a transcendent point for
you today. A CHOICE POSSIBILITY.

Something within you today has gathered this one single projected
picture vibrations and captured a messaged for you to ride a wave of
YOU... THE ONE... and integrate it NOW within you.

Behind this message… YOU, THE ONE, is there… behind all peoples faces,
places, things, times, and events… YOU ARE THERE. You are the ONLY
ONE. You have taken a thought within you and released it as a ENERGY
Pattern; this is the RAW MATERIAL that grants life to ALL THINGS. This
Energy PATTERN has came together and created a WHOLE WAVE FORM…that
can be perceived within any dimension or time wave you can IMAGINE.
These are simply SHIFTS in POINTS of VIEW of the ILLUSIONS of your dreams.

This same CREATIVE FORCES that is a CREATION that has been projection
into motion from within you; the MIND of the CREATOR from the
beginning. This same Creative Forces is constantly being CHANGED to
fit any THOUGHT or IDEA you and imagine. And it is all an illusion.

This BEGINNING PLACE; the PLACE before the ENERGY was projected; can
also be termed the Is-ness, “God” God-ess, ALL that is; The Father
Mother God Principle; Cosmic MIND… or what ever you need to term it.

The Energy PROJECTED.. That is a CREATION; that is like a dew drop
falling in a misty morning.. falling from the ideas and thoughts that
are YOU... THE ONE; This ONE FOCUSED THOUGHT became a VIBRATION of
ENERGY…. And congregated as a WHOLE SIGNATURE PATTERN… you might call
it a Projection, Construction of Energy, a Self-Projection or a Self
Portrait.

You are the AUTHOR of this message… You are the Receiver of this
message… You are ALL PARTS in-between this message from the beginning
to this very moment that your eyes are viewing this message. You are
the ALPHA… The Beginning and The Omega… The End…. You are ALL THINGS
in-between; you are captured in the FACES of the Masses and the great
words of The ONE…. You are the Air that you breath… the food that you
eat… and each and every story that captures your attention in every
moment. You are the ONLY ONE….

You pretend NOT to know where the other players are hiding… but all of
those that are hiding are you. You have simply forgotten that you are
just “PRETENDING”… and you have became entrapped and 

[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Louis McKenzie
 Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:40 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and 
adveristy
 
  
 
 
 Thanks guys for your support. Everyone that has written I need it.  
I do
 chant Gayatri Mantra  but I do not know Mahamritunjaya 
Mantra..If you
 know it please send it to me.   If you know where I can hear it 
please send
 me to the link.   THANKS ALL Your support is very helpful.
 
  
 
 I read your whole thing too and I really admire your integrity and
 determination. I hope you end up comfortably affluent without too 
much more
 stress and strain in getting there.

Agreed totally. Thumbs up Louis ! And I think you gathered all that 
strenght from your character and your TM-Programme. Stay regular in 
your practise - no mumbo-jumbo-mantras necessary !




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[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I am writing all of this to say. Even though I may question 
 if perhaps I am a little nuts.  I have really gotten to see 
 what happens when one puts principal ahead of security.  

I think the word you want is 'principle.' 

 I had received money to make an investment 3 years ago. The
 investors backed out they only want to know when I will give 
 their money back or have money for them.  

I know that most here express sympathy for your
situation, and I do as well, but this legitimate
question remains unaddressed in your post. Please
note that all of the following information in your
post is about *you* and *your* family and *your* 
lifestyle:

 My original partners abandoned me 3 years ago. I could have 
 chosen to run away but I did not. In the three years from 
 2005 till 2008 I was able to send my step daughter to a 
 Waldorf School and allow my wife the time to devote to our 
 toddler. From 6 months pregnant to 3 years old my wife was 
 able to dedicate herself to our children.

 In Brazil this is not valued, but for me it is very important.   

I'm sure it is. Did your original investors not 
getting their money back have any impact on *their*
families or *their* lifestyles?

 I believe that within the next couple of days my funding 
 will be finally in my account. I will put forth the first 
 payment on our home and hopefully get my family back in 
 order.   

And again, your funding (theoretically, more
investment in your business ideas) comes through, 
and the *first* you do with it is buy a house for 
you and your family? While the question of how 
much is left for the business idea or how much 
goes to repaying your original investors remains 
unaddressed?

I lived in New Mexico for several years. Few people
know that Microsoft started there, in Albuquerque.
During my time there I ran into probably two dozen
people who still spit every time they hear the name
Bill Gates because he blew town and moved to Seattle
owing them tens of thousands of dollars, and in a few
cases hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The richest man in the world has never paid those 
debts. He has never even *acknowledged* those debts.
Bill Gates can give away billions of dollars to
charity for the rest of his life, but not one of 
these people he left holding the bag are ever going
to have an ounce of respect for him. 

All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for
you and you start to get back on your feet financially,
you might want to put some thought into repaying the
people who invested in you earlier, instead of referring
to them as having backed out on you.

I'm sorry, but the almost complete self-absorbtion of 
your post leads me to believe they might have had some
reason for doing so. Even if this is not true, the bottom
line is that if you still owe them money, you still owe
them money. 

They didn't *give* you the money, dude...they *invested* 
in you. If you don't repay their investment, you can 
write here all you want about how your vision helped you 
through the struggle, but that's like listening to Bill 
Gates spout bullshit about how he made billions by being
so smart, when in fact he got rich by bailing on his debts. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Jason
 
 
  In the 1950's, a few people in India helped Maharishi a lot when he was 
struggling financially.

  Later on when Maharishi copyrighted the TM and started getting millions 
of dollars, he ignored them completely.!!  He never even acknowledged those who 
helped him go to the west and establish himself financialy secure.

  Both Deepak Chopra's father and Chopra helped Maharishi a lot and yet in 
the end he kicked Chopra out.!!

  Perhaps both Bill Gates and Maharishi have something in common.
 

--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 3:28 AM

 
I'm sure it is. Did your original investors not 
getting their money back have any impact on *their*
families or *their* lifestyles?  

And again, your funding (theoretically, more
investment in your business ideas) comes through, 
and the *first* you do with it is buy a house for 
you and your family? While the question of how 
much is left for the business idea or how much 
goes to repaying your original investors remains 
unaddressed?

I lived in New Mexico for several years. Few people
know that Microsoft started there, in Albuquerque.
During my time there I ran into probably two dozen
people who still spit every time they hear the name
Bill Gates because he blew town and moved to Seattle
owing them tens of thousands of dollars, and in a few
cases hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The richest man in the world has never paid those 
debts. He has never even *acknowledged* those debts.
Bill Gates can give away billions of dollars to
charity for the rest of his life, but not one of 
these people he left holding the bag are ever going
to have an ounce of respect for him. 

All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for
you and you start to get back on your feet financially,
you might want to put some thought into repaying the
people who invested in you earlier, instead of referring
to them as having backed out on you.

I'm sorry, but the almost complete self-absorbtion of 
your post leads me to believe they might have had some
reason for doing so. Even if this is not true, the bottom
line is that if you still owe them money, you still owe
them money. 

They didn't *give* you the money, dude...they *invested* 
in you. If you don't repay their investment, you can 
write here all you want about how your vision helped you 
through the struggle, but that's like listening to Bill 
Gates spout bullshit about how he made billions by being
so smart, when in fact he got rich by bailing on his debts. 

    *
 


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the 1950's, a few people in India helped Maharishi a lot 
 when he was struggling financially.
 
 Later on when Maharishi copyrighted the TM and started getting 
 millions of dollars, he ignored them completely.!!  He never 
 even acknowledged those who helped him go to the west and 
 establish himself financialy secure.
 
 Both Deepak Chopra's father and Chopra helped Maharishi a lot 
 and yet in the end he kicked Chopra out.!!
 
 Perhaps both Bill Gates and Maharishi have something in common.

Exactly.

I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind
of pity party for Louis and all he's been through,
and that we were supposed to express our compassion
and our admiration of him sticking to his principles
throughout it all.

Ok, I *do* feel compassion for his hard times. And on
some level I feel some admiration for him sticking to
his principles. I just couldn't help noticing that
those principles don't seem to involve repaying the
people who loaned him money or invested in his busi-
ness ideas in the first place. The principles are more 
about sticking to the purity of his vision.

Well, I'm sorry, but I just don't respect that as much
as TMers and other spiritual people seem to. And the 
reason is that over the years I've loaned money to a
*lot* of people, *none* of whom ever repaid a dime of
it. None of them ever *thought* of repaying a dime of
it. They used it to pay for their courses, or their
rent, or their business schemes that never worked out,
or in one case, their women. 

And they thought of all of these things they spent the 
money on as an integral part of their spiritual sadhana,
and thus somehow off the books. The general attitude
was that if it helps them pursue enlightenment (or what-
ever their *personal* goals were), these are not debts
that need to be respected but money flowing in from the 
universe -- an expression of support of nature.

Excuse me, but the money flowing in was an expres-
sion of a friend trying to help them, a friend who did 
not have that much money in the first place, and had to
do without a few things himself f*in order to* help 
them out.

Not a penny ever got repaid. 

And not *one* of them ever felt bad about it.

I think there is something *wrong* with this. I think
that it's wrong when some meditator bums money to pay
his rent because he's too evolved to work, and I 
think there is something wrong with it when someone
meditator comes up with a get rich quick scheme and 
winds up defrauding a number of his meditating friends 
when the scheme goes belly up.

Louis may NOT have had anything like this in mind; the
whole problem may be that he wrote what he did without
clarifying the details of these people who backed
him who are now so unevolved as to want their money
back. It could be a simple failure of language, and
I may be up on my soapbox without cause. If so, I 
apologize in advance.

But the whole schtick in this post was principle,
and I for one couldn't help but notice that the one
principle that kept getting ignored was *paying back*
the people who invested money.

If it had been me, I would have gone wherever I could
have found work and paid back every penny. *Then* I 
would have started over on some new plan. That's my 
definition of commitment, belief, trust, and how to 
deal with adversity. 

You can call me non-spiritual for feeling this way
if you want, but that's how I feel. Principle is not
found in the glorious plans one talks about or pitches
to others, but in what one DOES when those plans some-
times don't work out.


 --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
 Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 3:28 AM
 
  
 I'm sure it is. Did your original investors not 
 getting their money back have any impact on *their*
 families or *their* lifestyles?  
 
 And again, your funding (theoretically, more
 investment in your business ideas) comes through, 
 and the *first* you do with it is buy a house for 
 you and your family? While the question of how 
 much is left for the business idea or how much 
 goes to repaying your original investors remains 
 unaddressed?
 
 I lived in New Mexico for several years. Few people
 know that Microsoft started there, in Albuquerque.
 During my time there I ran into probably two dozen
 people who still spit every time they hear the name
 Bill Gates because he blew town and moved to Seattle
 owing them tens of thousands of dollars, and in a few
 cases hundreds of thousands of dollars.
 
 The richest man in the world has never paid those 
 debts. He has never even *acknowledged* those debts.
 Bill Gates can give away billions of dollars to
 charity for the rest of his life, but not one of 
 these people he left holding the bag are ever going
 to have an ounce of respect for him. 
 
 All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for
 you and you start to get back on your feet 

[FairfieldLife] 'McCain/Schmitt= Mocking Hope!'

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
The Republican Machine is worse than the Clinton Machine, for sure...
It grinds and squeals and mocks...
It's really ugly and produces ugly results.
They are the anti-hero, that got shot down.
POW mentality for all...sad and angry man,
Trying to outdo his DAD, like Bush!
Admiral McCain was HIS DAD...
He wanted to commit suicide many times.
He is unstable, which is why he always looks so tense...
Just like Bush.
They mock life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
They mock anything loving.
This is sad, but true.
They are a brain-washing machine.
They are not logical, and people influenced by them,
Do not make logical choices.
Will Obama/Biden get down to play in the mud,
With these Pigs?
That is the dilemma
 
R.G.  


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
Thanks.  I thought I made it clear but I guess I did not.  My partners and the 
investors are different people.   I have kept going the whole  time to be able 
to pay the investors their money back.   I have taken responsibility for their 
money even if they have not been willing to assist me at all.   They invested 
because they thought I was working for my partners.   They had a responsibility 
to cover the company and my personal expenses while I built the company.  The 
Partners got friends to put up money and then they abandoned.   They thought 
they had me in a position that they would own the major portion of the company 
even if they did not uphold their responsibilities.  

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 7:28 AM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I am writing all of this to say. Even though I may question 
 if perhaps I am a little nuts.  I have really gotten to see 
 what happens when one puts principal ahead of security.  

I think the word you want is 'principle.' 

 I had received money to make an investment 3 years ago. The
 investors backed out they only want to know when I will give 
 their money back or have money for them.  

I know that most here express sympathy for your
situation, and I do as well, but this legitimate
question remains unaddressed in your post. Please
note that all of the following information in your
post is about *you* and *your* family and *your* 
lifestyle:

 My original partners abandoned me 3 years ago. I could have 
 chosen to run away but I did not. In the three years from 
 2005 till 2008 I was able to send my step daughter to a 
 Waldorf School and allow my wife the time to devote to our 
 toddler. From 6 months pregnant to 3 years old my wife was 
 able to dedicate herself to our children.

 In Brazil this is not valued, but for me it is very important.   

I'm sure it is. Did your original investors not 
getting their money back have any impact on *their*
families or *their* lifestyles?

 I believe that within the next couple of days my funding 
 will be finally in my account. I will put forth the first 
 payment on our home and hopefully get my family back in 
 order.   

And again, your funding (theoretically, more
investment in your business ideas) comes through, 
and the *first* you do with it is buy a house for 
you and your family? While the question of how 
much is left for the business idea or how much 
goes to repaying your original investors remains 
unaddressed?

I lived in New Mexico for several years. Few people
know that Microsoft started there, in Albuquerque.
During my time there I ran into probably two dozen
people who still spit every time they hear the name
Bill Gates because he blew town and moved to Seattle
owing them tens of thousands of dollars, and in a few
cases hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The richest man in the world has never paid those 
debts. He has never even *acknowledged* those debts.
Bill Gates can give away billions of dollars to
charity for the rest of his life, but not one of 
these people he left holding the bag are ever going
to have an ounce of respect for him. 

All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for
you and you start to get back on your feet financially,
you might want to put some thought into repaying the
people who invested in you earlier, instead of referring
to them as having backed out on you.

I'm sorry, but the almost complete self-absorbtion of 
your post leads me to believe they might have had some
reason for doing so. Even if this is not true, the bottom
line is that if you still owe them money, you still owe
them money. 

They didn't *give* you the money, dude...they *invested* 
in you. If you don't repay their investment, you can 
write here all you want about how your vision helped you 
through the struggle, but that's like listening to Bill 
Gates spout bullshit about how he made billions by being
so smart, when in fact he got rich by bailing on his debts. 






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
Thanks.  I thought I made it clear but I guess I did not.  My partners and the 
investors are different people.   I have kept going the whole  time to be able 
to pay the investors their money back.   I have taken responsibility for their 
money even if they have not been willing to assist me at all.   They invested 
because they thought I was working for my partners.   They had a responsibility 
to cover the company and my personal expenses while I built the company.  The 
Partners got friends to put up money and then they abandoned.   They thought 
they had me in a position that they would own the major portion of the company 
even if they did not uphold their responsibilities. 

So as I stated in the original post I had to agree to a settlement so the 
settlement is a payment not investment.
 
--- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 7:28 AM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So I am writing all of this to say. Even though I may question 
 if perhaps I am a little nuts.  I have really gotten to see 
 what happens when one puts principal ahead of security.  

I think the word you want is 'principle.' 

 I had received money to make an investment 3 years ago. The
 investors backed out they only want to know when I will give 
 their money back or have money for them.  

I know that most here express sympathy for your
situation, and I do as well, but this legitimate
question remains unaddressed in your post. Please
note that all of the following information in your
post is about *you* and *your* family and *your* 
lifestyle:

 My original partners abandoned me 3 years ago. I could have 
 chosen to run away but I did not. In the three years from 
 2005 till 2008 I was able to send my step daughter to a 
 Waldorf School and allow my wife the time to devote to our 
 toddler. From 6 months pregnant to 3 years old my wife was 
 able to dedicate herself to our children.

 In Brazil this is not valued, but for me it is very important.   

I'm sure it is. Did your original investors not 
getting their money back have any impact on *their*
families or *their* lifestyles?

 I believe that within the next couple of days my funding 
 will be finally in my account. I will put forth the first 
 payment on our home and hopefully get my family back in 
 order.   

And again, your funding (theoretically, more
investment in your business ideas) comes through, 
and the *first* you do with it is buy a house for 
you and your family? While the question of how 
much is left for the business idea or how much 
goes to repaying your original investors remains 
unaddressed?

I lived in New Mexico for several years. Few people
know that Microsoft started there, in Albuquerque.
During my time there I ran into probably two dozen
people who still spit every time they hear the name
Bill Gates because he blew town and moved to Seattle
owing them tens of thousands of dollars, and in a few
cases hundreds of thousands of dollars.

The richest man in the world has never paid those 
debts. He has never even *acknowledged* those debts.
Bill Gates can give away billions of dollars to
charity for the rest of his life, but not one of 
these people he left holding the bag are ever going
to have an ounce of respect for him. 

All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for
you and you start to get back on your feet financially,
you might want to put some thought into repaying the
people who invested in you earlier, instead of referring
to them as having backed out on you.

I'm sorry, but the almost complete self-absorbtion of 
your post leads me to believe they might have had some
reason for doing so. Even if this is not true, the bottom
line is that if you still owe them money, you still owe
them money. 

They didn't *give* you the money, dude...they *invested* 
in you. If you don't repay their investment, you can 
write here all you want about how your vision helped you 
through the struggle, but that's like listening to Bill 
Gates spout bullshit about how he made billions by being
so smart, when in fact he got rich by bailing on his debts. 






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
Pitty Party???  


I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind
of pity party for Louis and all he's been through,
and that we were supposed to express our compassion
and our admiration of him sticking to his principles
throughout it all.
Anyway I dont know what you are talking about.   I do know there is a 
difference between partnerships and investors.   If one is a partner then that 
is much different than an investor.   However I am not going into details about 
my business ventures.   I only stated that I am learning what it takes to 
succeed.   Even that you do not have to stop just because the money stops.    
Get rich quick scheme? dont understand.   

I thank you for getting one part of my post correct but I guess what you did 
not understand is a big part of the last three years has been keeping going so 
I did not lose the money and I would be able to pay the investors back.    
Partners who quit well maybe for me I have abandonment issues.   Yet the 
investors I have taken the money as if it was my own.   As in 100% 
responsibility for it.    You assumed that I would rather buy a house instead 
of pay them.    NoNot true.   However I am taking care of my family as well 
this time.   Since the investors could not send 50.00 for food for my family 
YES I AM PUTTING MY FAMILY FIRST



--- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 8:34 AM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In the 1950's, a few people in India helped Maharishi a lot 
 when he was struggling financially.
 
 Later on when Maharishi copyrighted the TM and started getting 
 millions of dollars, he ignored them completely.!!  He never 
 even acknowledged those who helped him go to the west and 
 establish himself financialy secure.
 
 Both Deepak Chopra's father and Chopra helped Maharishi a lot 
 and yet in the end he kicked Chopra out.!!
 
 Perhaps both Bill Gates and Maharishi have something in common.

Exactly.

I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind
of pity party for Louis and all he's been through,
and that we were supposed to express our compassion
and our admiration of him sticking to his principles
throughout it all.

Ok, I *do* feel compassion for his hard times. And on
some level I feel some admiration for him sticking to
his principles. I just couldn't help noticing that
those principles don't seem to involve repaying the
people who loaned him money or invested in his busi-
ness ideas in the first place. The principles are more 
about sticking to the purity of his vision.

Well, I'm sorry, but I just don't respect that as much
as TMers and other spiritual people seem to. And the 
reason is that over the years I've loaned money to a
*lot* of people, *none* of whom ever repaid a dime of
it. None of them ever *thought* of repaying a dime of
it. They used it to pay for their courses, or their
rent, or their business schemes that never worked out,
or in one case, their women. 

And they thought of all of these things they spent the 
money on as an integral part of their spiritual sadhana,
and thus somehow off the books. The general attitude
was that if it helps them pursue enlightenment (or what-
ever their *personal* goals were), these are not debts
that need to be respected but money flowing in from the 
universe -- an expression of support of nature.

Excuse me, but the money flowing in was an expres-
sion of a friend trying to help them, a friend who did 
not have that much money in the first place, and had to
do without a few things himself f*in order to* help 
them out.

Not a penny ever got repaid. 

And not *one* of them ever felt bad about it.

I think there is something *wrong* with this. I think
that it's wrong when some meditator bums money to pay
his rent because he's too evolved to work, and I 
think there is something wrong with it when someone
meditator comes up with a get rich quick scheme and 
winds up defrauding a number of his meditating friends 
when the scheme goes belly up.

Louis may NOT have had anything like this in mind; the
whole problem may be that he wrote what he did without
clarifying the details of these people who backed
him who are now so unevolved as to want their money
back. It could be a simple failure of language, and
I may be up on my soapbox without cause. If so, I 
apologize in advance.

But the whole schtick in this post was principle,
and I for one couldn't help but notice that the one
principle that kept getting ignored was *paying back*
the people who invested money.

If it had been me, I would have gone wherever I could
have found work and paid back every penny. *Then* I 
would have started over on some new plan. That's my 
definition of commitment, belief, trust, and how to 
deal with adversity. 

You can call me non-spiritual for feeling 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
My wife says the thing that has bothered her the most about me is my 
calmness.   That I could pass through anything and just meditate and not have 
any negative emotion.   

JAI GURU DEV

Once we were passing a moment of no money we went six weeks or two months with 
a rigged electric.   Everyday day we chanted Gayatri mantra whole family even 
my son at the time age 18 months.   Then WOW! we came into money again.   We 
paid the light bill paid the school bill and went to the beach.   GOD WORKS

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 6:51 AM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Louis McKenzie
 Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 10:40 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and 
adveristy
 
  
 
 
 Thanks guys for your support. Everyone that has written I need it.  
I do
 chant Gayatri Mantra  but I do not know Mahamritunjaya 
Mantra..If you
 know it please send it to me.   If you know where I can hear it 
please send
 me to the link.   THANKS ALL Your support is very helpful.
 
  
 
 I read your whole thing too and I really admire your integrity and
 determination. I hope you end up comfortably affluent without too 
much more
 stress and strain in getting there.

Agreed totally. Thumbs up Louis ! And I think you gathered all that 
strenght from your character and your TM-Programme. Stay regular in 
your practise - no mumbo-jumbo-mantras necessary !





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[FairfieldLife] 'Does McCain have Anti-Christ Potential'

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
With the company he keeps, he does...
But, Bush is a hard act to follow-
In that regard...
 
R.G.


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks. I thought I made it clear but I guess I did not.  
 My partners and the investors are different people. I have 
 kept going the whole time to be able to pay the investors 
 their money back. I have taken responsibility for their 
 money even if they have not been willing to assist me at 
 all. 

Then you have my apologies for suggesting otherwise.
As I explained in a subsequent post, I am a little 
sensitive on this subject. 

 They invested because they thought I was working for my 
 partners. They had a responsibility to cover the company 
 and my personal expenses while I built the company. 

 The Partners got friends to put up money and then they 
 abandoned. They thought they had me in a position that 
 they would own the major portion of the company even if 
 they did not uphold their responsibilities.  

That is certainly possible, and I commisserate. I 
have seen this happen with vulture capitalists
in the software business -- investing just enough
money so that the business is designed to fail, at
which point the vulture capitalists own all the
intellectual property.

Good luck in working things out, and I hope that
you are able to make the business a success. My
rant was aimed not at you personally but at people
I've known who borrowed hundreds of thousands of
dollars from friends to create a business, did so,
and then spent the first five years' earnings from
the business on new cars, houses, and an ostentatious
lifestyle. The original friends had to finally sue
them to make them pay back the money they could easily
have paid back in the first year of successful oper-
ation. Suffice it to say they are no longer friends.

And all of these people meditated, and thought that
they were better than those who didn't.


 --- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 7:28 AM
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote:
 
  So I am writing all of this to say. Even though I may question 
  if perhaps I am a little nuts.  I have really gotten to see 
  what happens when one puts principal ahead of security.  
 
 I think the word you want is 'principle.' 
 
  I had received money to make an investment 3 years ago. The
  investors backed out they only want to know when I will give 
  their money back or have money for them.  
 
 I know that most here express sympathy for your
 situation, and I do as well, but this legitimate
 question remains unaddressed in your post. Please
 note that all of the following information in your
 post is about *you* and *your* family and *your* 
 lifestyle:
 
  My original partners abandoned me 3 years ago. I could have 
  chosen to run away but I did not. In the three years from 
  2005 till 2008 I was able to send my step daughter to a 
  Waldorf School and allow my wife the time to devote to our 
  toddler. From 6 months pregnant to 3 years old my wife was 
  able to dedicate herself to our children.
 
  In Brazil this is not valued, but for me it is very important.   
 
 I'm sure it is. Did your original investors not 
 getting their money back have any impact on *their*
 families or *their* lifestyles?
 
  I believe that within the next couple of days my funding 
  will be finally in my account. I will put forth the first 
  payment on our home and hopefully get my family back in 
  order.   
 
 And again, your funding (theoretically, more
 investment in your business ideas) comes through, 
 and the *first* you do with it is buy a house for 
 you and your family? While the question of how 
 much is left for the business idea or how much 
 goes to repaying your original investors remains 
 unaddressed?
 
 I lived in New Mexico for several years. Few people
 know that Microsoft started there, in Albuquerque.
 During my time there I ran into probably two dozen
 people who still spit every time they hear the name
 Bill Gates because he blew town and moved to Seattle
 owing them tens of thousands of dollars, and in a few
 cases hundreds of thousands of dollars.
 
 The richest man in the world has never paid those 
 debts. He has never even *acknowledged* those debts.
 Bill Gates can give away billions of dollars to
 charity for the rest of his life, but not one of 
 these people he left holding the bag are ever going
 to have an ounce of respect for him. 
 
 All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for
 you and you start to get back on your feet financially,
 you might want to put some thought into repaying the
 people who invested in you earlier, instead of referring
 to them as having backed out on you.
 
 I'm sorry, but the almost complete self-absorbtion of 
 your post leads me to believe they might have had some
 reason for doing so. Even if this is not true, the bottom

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in peer- 
reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the world.


The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women in  
Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an other  
study, the Scottish men were found to have the longest average  
lovemaking times with women, half again as much than the average  
American, who was low on the list. These studies therefore support  
each other.


Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.



Anywhere we can find a copy of these studies, off?

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: 'More on AUM'

2008-08-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
  So, 'OM' is a recent invention - it's not 
  even an esoteric mantra, except by courtesy. 
  'OM or 'AUM' isn't a bija mantra used in 
  genuine tantric practice.
 
Junior wrote:
FYI:
 Bhoja-deva:
 
 [...] nauti stautiiti vaa **praNava oMkaaraH** [...]

FYI: King Bhoja lived in 1100 A.D., after the
invention of the 'OM' and the rise of the
tantric sects. Patanjali lived in 200 B.C.
Patanjali didn't mention any 'OM' chanting.

In fact, Patanjali doesn't seem to mention
anything about any mantras or bija mantras
at all in the Yoga Sutras. 

Apparently, the 'OM' chanting came after 
Patanjali, as did the composition of most of 
the tantras. 

So, 'OM' as a symbol came during the Gupta 
era, during the age of the alchemists and 
the siddhas.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
 
  Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in 
  peer-reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the 
  world.
 
  The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women 
  in Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an 
  other study, the Scottish men were found to have the longest 
  average lovemaking times with women, half again as much than 
  the average American, who was low on the list. These studies 
  therefore support each other.
 
  Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
 
 Anywhere we can find a copy of these studies, off?

I don't remember the name of the actual journal,
but here is a photograph of the Scot author of the
study, giving one of the women a ride home after
being interviewed for the study. As Off suggested, 
she probably wanted to take advantage of his superior 
Scot staying power.

http://www.members.aol.com/tantricone/share/sheep.htm





[FairfieldLife] 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Bring it on, mentality...
Do we need more of this?
We can't afford more of this, 
We can't afford any more of this mentality.
Just say no, like Ronny used to say;
Choosing McCain is just insane...
Like Obama says, 
Doing the same thing over and over,
And expecting a different result...
R.G.


  

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
Lets see what happens this week in Colorado.   I hope they do something with 
the Hillary Clinton Coalition like inform them that Hillary will be Secretary 
of State.

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'
To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:22 AM









Yeah, yeah, yeah...
Bring it on, mentality...
Do we need more of this?
We can't afford more of this, 
We can't afford any more of this mentality.
Just say no, like Ronny used to say;
Choosing McCain is just insane...
Like Obama says, 
Doing the same thing over and over,
And expecting a different result...
R.G.


  




  

[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for
 you and you start to get back on your feet financially,
 you might want to put some thought into repaying the
 people who invested in you earlier, instead of referring
 to them as having backed out on you.
 
From 1988 to 1991, Rama's individual tuition rose from 
roughly one thousand to three thousand dollars per month.  

He told followers that since NPDS and ASI were actually 
furthering their careers, they should deduct the increasing 
payments from their taxes. 

This enabled Rama to dramatically increase his surprise 
gift reservoir - while bilking the IRS of millions, in a 
way that would be difficult to expose.

http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lets see what happens this week in Colorado. I hope they do 
 something with the Hillary Clinton Coalition like inform them 
 that Hillary will be Secretary of State.

I hope they ignore her like the nonentity she is.





Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Does McCain have Anti-Christ Potential'

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
The stage is set now.  McCain will either come into office if he wins and send 
troops to Georgia and declare war on Iran.   Or he will push Israel to do so.   
Then he will do the offshore drilling and when an accident happens so many 
beautiful seas will turn black.   

the US economy??? What is that??? it will not exist. and the country will have 
to  go into Martial Law.   This is what John McCain means for America

The other side is he will be too afraid of himself to do anything and the 
results of being a broken war hero will show their head.  He will be the first 
catatonic president.

either way bad for america

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Does McCain have Anti-Christ Potential'
To: fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 9:41 AM









With the company he keeps, he does...
But, Bush is a hard act to follow-
In that regard...
 
R.G.


  




  

[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 You can call me non-spiritual for feeling this way
 if you want, but that's how I feel. Principle is not
 found in the glorious plans one talks about or pitches
 to others, but in what one DOES when those plans some-
 times don't work out.
 
So, you've still got some 'negative energy' to work out!

In 1989, Rama justified to the disciples his rising 
tuition. I nearly killed myself by accepting your 
Negative Occult Energy, he said, and now you are going 
to have to pay for it.

http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/14.epil-3



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread Vaj


On Aug 25, 2008, at 8:45 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote:


On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in peer- 
reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the world.


The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women in  
Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an other  
study, the Scottish men were found to have the longest average  
lovemaking times with women, half again as much than the average  
American, who was low on the list. These studies therefore support  
each other.


Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.



Anywhere we can find a copy of these studies, off?



The Scottish Journal of Sheep Husbandry, vol. 4 no.14, pp. 104-389

Parameters in Scottish/Sheep Coitus Performance

[FairfieldLife] And now for the big reveal (or Why Dr. Pete can't vote for Obama)

2008-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
I've been conducting a social experiment with the participants of FFL.

The other day I posted the following:

Blacks are better at basketball

...and...

On a basketball court, being Black is not a disadvantage.

I was very specific in my language.

Why?

Because I tried to emulate the words of the person who actually spoke 
those words. By representing them as my own words, I wanted to see 
what the reaction would be of the participants of FFL.

Interestingly, the only person who REALLY opposed the remarks and was 
disgusted by them was Dr. Pete.

The most interesting response was by Louis who not only appeared to 
agree with the comment but extended the opinition of the dominance of 
Blacks beyond the basketball court to pretty much every area of human 
endeavor!

And everyone else was somewhere in between these two extremes.

And now for the payoff.  So who was it that actually said those words?

It was none other than...

BARACK OBAMA!

Here is a transcript of what he said, accompanied by a link to a 
video of him saying it:

Bryant Gumble: So I guess the question becomes -- and I'm not trying 
to put you on a couch here -- was it basketball you took to right 
away or was it a chance to identify racially or was it a chance to 
bond with your father in some fashion, what was the driving force?

Barack Obama: I would suspect all of the above and the fact that 
growing up in Hawaii without a father with not a large African-
American population that here was a place where being Black was not a 
disadvantage, here was a sport in which we were dominant, all those 
things I think contributed to the idea that there's something special 
(about basketball).

http://tinyurl.com/5spumw

Dr. Pete: do you not agree that you should be consistent in your 
disgust of those words and in light of who actually said them 
transfer your disgust to Obama?

Do you not agree that you cannot vote for him?  I mean, how could you 
vote for someone who said such an awful thing?



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
Well Forgiveness and mercy are always important.  

One thing I have learned is that the road to success is full of opportunity.  
Some opportunities are good and some not so good.   One thing I have learned is 
that sometimes people dont really care about people.   If I dont care about me 
maybe no one else will either.   An investor is one thing a partner is someone 
with a particular responsibility that the person chooses to take on for a 
certain percentage of ownership.   In this case just as that person is a 
partner so too am I .   Why do you believe that one partner would be any more 
or less responsible for the results of things than the other.  

My so called partners in this particular venture thought I was weak and 
stupid.   So they thought they could bully me into giving up my blank 
Instead they found something else.   I dont know what I will do with them .   
The investors will get their money back, yet as I have never met them I will 
see what goes with so called partners.   Investors= understanding 
Partners who quit or abandon = anger and uncertainty

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:36 AM

TurquoiseB wrote:
 All I'm suggesting is that as things come around for
 you and you start to get back on your feet financially,
 you might want to put some thought into repaying the
 people who invested in you earlier, instead of referring
 to them as having backed out on you.
 
From 1988 to 1991, Rama's individual tuition rose from 
roughly one thousand to three thousand dollars per month.  

He told followers that since NPDS and ASI were actually 
furthering their careers, they should deduct the increasing 
payments from their taxes. 

This enabled Rama to dramatically increase his surprise 
gift reservoir - while bilking the IRS of millions, in a 
way that would be difficult to expose.

http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired




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[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 My rant was aimed not at you personally but at people
 I've known who borrowed hundreds of thousands of
 dollars from friends to create a business, did so,
 and then spent the first five years' earnings from
 the business on new cars, houses, and an ostentatious
 lifestyle. 

Generally, this was to be paid in US $100 bills - 
higher vibratory energy, ex-members say. Gifts and 
costly special excursions are extra: In practice, 
members give Lenz almost all their money, according 
to published reports and ex-followers. They squeeze 
into shared, unfurnished apartments while he flies 
in a Lear jet between houses in Long Island, Santa 
Fe, and Los Angeles.

http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
I don't know Rama.  I once had a partner in another business whom when he was 
excited about things he went out and raised a whole lot of money.   He did 
things and promised things that I would not do.   Then when he got depressed he 
quit.  Before he officially quit he told me that he would only quit when he was 
sure I could not continue.   I was not sure what he meant by that.   Then I 
started a venture that actually started making money.   He called my new 
partner's wife a stupid bitch and told bank officers he was me.   

I began to understand him.   I became weary of partners.  When Partners lose 
they sometimes make excuses for the loss, by blaming others.   So they bad 
mouth like gossipers.    I like investors not so sure about partners.   I have 
expectation with partners no expectation with investors.

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:43 AM

TurquoiseB wrote:
 You can call me non-spiritual for feeling this way
 if you want, but that's how I feel. Principle is not
 found in the glorious plans one talks about or pitches
 to others, but in what one DOES when those plans some-
 times don't work out.
 
So, you've still got some 'negative energy' to work out!

In 1989, Rama justified to the disciples his rising 
tuition. I nearly killed myself by accepting your 
Negative Occult Energy, he said, and now you are going 
to have to pay for it.

http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/14.epil-3




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
 
  Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in 
peer- 
  reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the world.
 
  The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women 
in  
  Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an other  
  study, the Scottish men were found to have the longest average  
  lovemaking times with women, half again as much than the 
average  
  American, who was low on the list. These studies therefore 
support  
  each other.
 
  Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
 
 
 Anywhere we can find a copy of these studies, off?
 
 Sal

Better find those studies Off - horny old women wants to know where 
to go on vacation ! :-)




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
I am sorry you had this experience.  

I have seen worst probably called worst.   Not a guru

For me Sri Sri Ravi Shankar was/is my friend.  If he was doing a project or was 
participating in a project to help other people I would do all I could to help 
him

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 11:00 AM

TurquoiseB wrote:
 My rant was aimed not at you personally but at people
 I've known who borrowed hundreds of thousands of
 dollars from friends to create a business, did so,
 and then spent the first five years' earnings from
 the business on new cars, houses, and an ostentatious
 lifestyle. 

Generally, this was to be paid in US $100 bills - 
higher vibratory energy, ex-members say. Gifts and 
costly special excursions are extra: In practice, 
members give Lenz almost all their money, according 
to published reports and ex-followers. They squeeze 
into shared, unfurnished apartments while he flies 
in a Lear jet between houses in Long Island, Santa 
Fe, and Los Angeles.

http://www.ex-cult.org/Groups/Rama/wired




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread off_world_beings




Scots have the best sperm in Europe, says study
http://www.tobacco.org/news/68597.html 

http://www.tobacco.org/news/68597.html
http://www.tobacco.org/news/68597.html



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 And I believe it has been documented among your partners that they
score
 much lower on math aptitude having come to believe that what they have
 been told is 6, in actually 2



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
 
  Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in
  peer-reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the world.
 
  The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women in
  Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an other
study,
  the Scottish men were found to have the longest average lovemaking
 times
  with women, half again as much than the average American, who was
low
 on
  the list. These studies therefore support each other.
 
  Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
 
  My own skills stand as an anecdotal support to these studies,
although
  my staying time is WAY longer than any that were found in the
studies
  :-)
 
  OffWorld
  (Scottish born and bred)
 
  PS. Why are you the only person in the world that still posts at the
 top
  of a thread?
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
  
   Here's the complete and total FACT that will put to rest this
  ridiculous discussion regarding superiority/inferiority off
different
  ethnic groups. Do you know statistics? If not, sorry, you may not
  understand this. There are different means (averages) for normally
  distributed traits in different ethnic populations. For example
  European-Americans as a group have an average IQ 10 to 15 points
 higher
  than the average group IQ for African-Americans, 5 to 7 points
higher
  than Hispanic-Americans and 3 to 6 points lower than Asian
Americans.
 If
  you control for income the European-American, Hispanic-American and
  African-American difference disappears, but the Asian still remains.
 But
  the important point here is that within group differences are much,
 much
  larger than between group differences. WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT YOU
CAN
  HAVE A EUROPEAN AMERICAN THAT CAN JUMP AND AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WHO
 GETS
  A FULL ACADEMIC SCHOLARSHIP TO MIT. Again within group differences
   are much, much larger than between group differences.
  
  
   --- On Sun, 8/24/08, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   From: off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better
 at
  some things than others
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:27 PM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
Hey Off,
   
Don't toot your horn so loudly. Our hearing is fairly normal,
  thanks
   What's your problem?
   OffWorld
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
no_reply@
wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk
shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  Blacks are better at basketball;
  Chinese are better at math and engineering;
  Italians are better cooks.
 
  What other groups can you think of in this manner?

 The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey,
women
 in
 Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an
other
study,
 the Scottish men were found to have the longest average
 lovemaking
times
 with women, half again as much than the average American, who
 was
low on
 the list. These studies therefore support each other.

 Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.

 My own skills stand as an anecdotal support to these studies,
although
 my staying time is WAY longer than any that were found in the
studies
 :-)

 OffWorld
 (Scottish born and bred)

   
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
She is not the issue.  The 18 Million people who voted for her they are the 
issue.  

That said I hope they give her something that pulls those 18 million people to 
Obama

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:38 AM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lets see what happens this week in Colorado. I hope they do 
 something with the Hillary Clinton Coalition like inform them 
 that Hillary will be Secretary of State.

I hope they ignore her like the nonentity she is.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

  Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in peer-
  reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the world.
 
  The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women in
  Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an other
  study, the Scottish men were found to have the longest average
  lovemaking times with women, half again as much than the average
  American, who was low on the list. These studies therefore support
  each other.
 
  Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
 

 Anywhere we can find a copy of these studies, off?

 Sal


Scots have the best sperm in Europe, says study

http://www.tobacco.org/news/68597.html
http://www.tobacco.org/news/68597.html


OFfWorld



[FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
 wrote:
 
  On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
 
   Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in
   peer-reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the
   world.
  
   The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women
   in Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an
   other study, the Scottish men were found to have the longest
   average lovemaking times with women, half again as much than
   the average American, who was low on the list. These studies
   therefore support each other.
  
   Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
 
  Anywhere we can find a copy of these studies, off?

 I don't remember the name of the actual journal,
 but here is a photograph of the Scot author of the
 study, giving one of the women a ride home after
 being interviewed for the study. As Off suggested,
 she probably wanted to take advantage of his superior
 Scot staying power.

 http://www.members.aol.com/tantricone/share/sheep.htm
http://www.members.aol.com/tantricone/share/sheep.htm 

Why do you post photos of your illigitimate sons Turq?.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



 And I believe it has been documented among your partners that they
score much lower on math aptitude having come to believe that what they
have been told is 6, in actually  2

They all have graduate degrees unlike you and Lurker :-)

OffWorld


 And the lady can forget about ever getting cab fair home.


 ...but mountain doesn't move!

 --- On Mon, 8/25/08, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at
some things than others
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:36 AM








 And I believe it has been documented among your partners that they
score much lower on math aptitude having come to believe that what they
have been told is 6, in actually  2

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:
 
 
  Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in
  peer-reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the world.
 
  The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women in
  Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an other
study,
  the Scottish men were found to have the longest average lovemaking
times
  with women, half again as much than the average American, who was
low on
  the list. These studies therefore support each other.
 
  Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
 
  My own skills stand as an anecdotal support to these studies,
although
  my staying time is WAY longer than any that were found in the
studies
  :-)
 
  OffWorld
  (Scottish born and bred)
 
  PS. Why are you the only person in the world that still posts at the
top
  of a thread?
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
  
   Here's the complete and total FACT that will put to rest this
  ridiculous discussion regarding superiority/inferiority off
different
  ethnic groups. Do you know statistics? If not, sorry, you may not
  understand this. There are different means (averages) for normally
  distributed traits in different ethnic populations. For example
  European-Americans as a group have an average IQ 10 to 15 points
higher
  than the average group IQ for African-Americans, 5 to 7 points
higher
  than Hispanic-Americans and 3 to 6 points lower than Asian
Americans. If
  you control for income the European-American, Hispanic-American and
  African-American difference disappears, but the Asian still remains.
But
  the important point here is that within group differences are much,
much
  larger than between group differences. WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT YOU
CAN
  HAVE A EUROPEAN AMERICAN THAT CAN JUMP AND AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WHO
GETS
  A FULL ACADEMIC SCHOLARSHIP TO MIT. Again within group differences
   are much, much larger than between group differences.
  
  
   --- On Sun, 8/24/08, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   From: off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better
at
  some things than others
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Sunday, August 24, 2008, 10:27 PM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
Hey Off,
   
Don't toot your horn so loudly. Our hearing is fairly normal,
  thanks
   What's your problem?
   OffWorld
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@
wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  , shempmcgurk
shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  Blacks are better at basketball;
  Chinese are better at math and engineering;
  Italians are better cooks.
 
  What other groups can you think of in this manner?

 The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey,
women in
 Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an
other
study,
 the Scottish men were found to have the longest average
lovemaking
times
 with women, half again as much than the average American, who
was
low on
 the list. These studies therefore support each other.

 Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.

 My own skills stand as an anecdotal support to these studies,
although
 my staying time is WAY longer than any that were found in the
studies
 :-)

 OffWorld
 (Scottish born and bred)

   
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Aug 25, 2008, at 9:11 AM, off_world_beings wrote:


Anywhere we can find a copy of these studies, off?

 Sal


Scots have the best sperm in Europe, says study

http://www.tobacco.org/news/68597.html



Um, off, when I clicked on Jump to full article, it showed
a blank page...could this be some kind of cosmic commentary?

The whole thing sounds like a joke.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , TurquoiseB no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Sal Sunshine salsunshine@
  wrote:
  
   On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
  
Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in
peer-reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the
world.
   
The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, 
women
in Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an
other study, the Scottish men were found to have the longest
average lovemaking times with women, half again as much than
the average American, who was low on the list. These studies
therefore support each other.
   
Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
  
   Anywhere we can find a copy of these studies, off?
 
  I don't remember the name of the actual journal,
  but here is a photograph of the Scot author of the
  study, giving one of the women a ride home after
  being interviewed for the study. As Off suggested,
  she probably wanted to take advantage of his superior
  Scot staying power.
 
  http://www.members.aol.com/tantricone/share/sheep.htm
 http://www.members.aol.com/tantricone/share/sheep.htm 
 
 Why do you post photos of your illigitimate sons Turq?.
 
 OffWorld



Son

I thought Turk was having his way with him.  After all, the sheep 
really does look quite happy.

Now I suppose we have to add incest to Barry's many accomplishments.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'

2008-08-25 Thread gullible fool

I hope they ignore her like the nonentity she is.
 
Ditto. Anyway, I believe it's standard operating procedure to wait until one 
actually wins the general election to choose the cabinet.

...but mountain doesn't move!

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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 9:38 AM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lets see what happens this week in Colorado. I hope they do 
 something with the Hillary Clinton Coalition like inform them 
 that Hillary will be Secretary of State.

I hope they ignore her like the nonentity she is.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread gullible fool


Generally, this was to be paid in US $100 bills - 
higher vibratory energy, ex-members say. Gifts and 
costly special excursions are extra: In practice, 
members give Lenz almost all their money, according 
to published reports and ex-followers. They squeeze 
into shared, unfurnished apartments while he flies 
in a Lear jet between houses in Long Island, Santa 
Fe, and Los Angeles.

I'm more impressed with the TMO's laundering skills.
 
Turg, your former leader was either insane or the biggest asshole to ever 
occupy a human body.  

...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:00 AM

TurquoiseB wrote:
 My rant was aimed not at you personally but at people
 I've known who borrowed hundreds of thousands of
 dollars from friends to create a business, did so,
 and then spent the first five years' earnings from
 the business on new cars, houses, and an ostentatious
 lifestyle. 

Generally, this was to be paid in US $100 bills - 
higher vibratory energy, ex-members say. Gifts and 
costly special excursions are extra: In practice, 
members give Lenz almost all their money, according 
to published reports and ex-followers. They squeeze 
into shared, unfurnished apartments while he flies 
in a Lear jet between houses in Long Island, Santa 
Fe, and Los Angeles.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some things than others

2008-08-25 Thread gullible fool

Better find those studies Off - horny old women wants to know where 
to go on vacation ! :-)

Not so easy to do..With the value of the US dollar versus the pound and the 
cost of jet fuel, it costs too much money for a vacation trip to Scotland. Have 
to settle for Americans.
 
...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Certain ethnic/race groups are better at some 
things than others
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 10:06 AM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Aug 24, 2008, at 10:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
 
  Maybe so Peter, but only the Scots are clearly documented in 
peer- 
  reviewed journals to be rated as the best lovers in the world.
 
  The Scots are known to be the best lovers. In one survey, women 
in  
  Europe put the Scots as number one best lovers, and in an other  
  study, the Scottish men were found to have the longest average  
  lovemaking times with women, half again as much than the 
average  
  American, who was low on the list. These studies therefore 
support  
  each other.
 
  Yes, all this in peer-reviewed journals.
 
 
 Anywhere we can find a copy of these studies, off?
 
 Sal

Better find those studies Off - horny old women wants to know where 
to go on vacation ! :-)





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
What does standard have to do with it?

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 11:55 AM










I hope they ignore her like the nonentity she is.
 
Ditto. Anyway, I believe it's standard operating procedure to wait until one 
actually wins the general election to choose the cabinet.

...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 9:38 AM

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lets see what happens this week in Colorado. I hope they do 
 something with the Hillary Clinton Coalition like inform them 
 that Hillary will be Secretary of State.

I hope they ignore her like the nonentity she is.






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[FairfieldLife] Portal to Maya Underworld Found in Mexico?

2008-08-25 Thread Vaj

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/08/080822-maya-maze.html

Link

Portal to Maya Underworld Found in Mexico?

Alexis Okeowo in México City
for National Geographic News
August 22, 2008

A labyrinth filled with stone temples and pyramids in 14 caves—some  
underwater—have been uncovered on Mexico's Yucatán Peninsula,  
archaeologists announced last week.


The discovery has experts wondering whether Maya legend inspired the  
construction of the underground complex—or vice versa.


According to Maya myth, the souls of the dead had to follow a dog  
with night vision on a horrific and watery path and endure myriad  
challenges before they could rest in the afterlife.


In one of the recently found caves, researchers discovered a nearly  
300-foot (90-meter) concrete road that ends at a column standing in  
front of a body of water. (...)

[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread mainstream20016
There's a technique to lending money that works really well to increase the 
odds of getting 
repaid.  When a person approaches you and asks to borrow, he is usually very 
upbeat, and 
cooperative with the terms, and the ' lender ' at that point has maximum 
leverage.  
As the potential lender,  Ask the following questions: How much money do you 
need to 
borrow ? When do you need the money ?   When  can you repay ?

After the borrower answers those three questions, the lender the directs the 
borrower to 
write a check to lender, for amount to be loaned, dated the agreed repayment 
date.
Asking for the repayment check upfront as a necessary condition to the loan 
eliminates 
having to ' remind ' the borrower of his obligation, and prevents 
'misunderstandings' and 
tremendously minimizes the hassle of lending.   












--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
 
  In the 1950's, a few people in India helped Maharishi a lot 
  when he was struggling financially.
  
  Later on when Maharishi copyrighted the TM and started getting 
  millions of dollars, he ignored them completely.!!  He never 
  even acknowledged those who helped him go to the west and 
  establish himself financialy secure.
  
  Both Deepak Chopra's father and Chopra helped Maharishi a lot 
  and yet in the end he kicked Chopra out.!!
  
  Perhaps both Bill Gates and Maharishi have something in common.
 
 Exactly.
 
 I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind
 of pity party for Louis and all he's been through,
 and that we were supposed to express our compassion
 and our admiration of him sticking to his principles
 throughout it all.
 
 Ok, I *do* feel compassion for his hard times. And on
 some level I feel some admiration for him sticking to
 his principles. I just couldn't help noticing that
 those principles don't seem to involve repaying the
 people who loaned him money or invested in his busi-
 ness ideas in the first place. The principles are more 
 about sticking to the purity of his vision.
 
 Well, I'm sorry, but I just don't respect that as much
 as TMers and other spiritual people seem to. And the 
 reason is that over the years I've loaned money to a
 *lot* of people, *none* of whom ever repaid a dime of
 it. None of them ever *thought* of repaying a dime of
 it. They used it to pay for their courses, or their
 rent, or their business schemes that never worked out,
 or in one case, their women. 
 
 And they thought of all of these things they spent the 
 money on as an integral part of their spiritual sadhana,
 and thus somehow off the books. The general attitude
 was that if it helps them pursue enlightenment (or what-
 ever their *personal* goals were), these are not debts
 that need to be respected but money flowing in from the 
 universe -- an expression of support of nature.
 
 Excuse me, but the money flowing in was an expres-
 sion of a friend trying to help them, a friend who did 
 not have that much money in the first place, and had to
 do without a few things himself f*in order to* help 
 them out.
 
 Not a penny ever got repaid. 
 
 And not *one* of them ever felt bad about it.
 
 I think there is something *wrong* with this. I think
 that it's wrong when some meditator bums money to pay
 his rent because he's too evolved to work, and I 
 think there is something wrong with it when someone
 meditator comes up with a get rich quick scheme and 
 winds up defrauding a number of his meditating friends 
 when the scheme goes belly up.
 
 Louis may NOT have had anything like this in mind; the
 whole problem may be that he wrote what he did without
 clarifying the details of these people who backed
 him who are now so unevolved as to want their money
 back. It could be a simple failure of language, and
 I may be up on my soapbox without cause. If so, I 
 apologize in advance.
 
 But the whole schtick in this post was principle,
 and I for one couldn't help but notice that the one
 principle that kept getting ignored was *paying back*
 the people who invested money.
 
 If it had been me, I would have gone wherever I could
 have found work and paid back every penny. *Then* I 
 would have started over on some new plan. That's my 
 definition of commitment, belief, trust, and how to 
 deal with adversity. 
 
 You can call me non-spiritual for feeling this way
 if you want, but that's how I feel. Principle is not
 found in the glorious plans one talks about or pitches
 to others, but in what one DOES when those plans some-
 times don't work out.
 
 
  --- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
  Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 3:28 AM
  
   
  I'm sure it is. Did your original investors not 
  getting their money back have any impact on *their*
  families or *their* lifestyles?  
  
  And again, your funding (theoretically, more
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
this is a good technique as long as the person has the money by the time the 
check is deposited. Once I did that with a guy and he got money but did not 
pay.   We called the bank verified the money was there and took it.   He kept 
saying he did not have money.

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:24 PM

There's a technique to lending money that works really well to increase the
odds of getting 
repaid.  When a person approaches you and asks to borrow, he is usually very
upbeat, and 
cooperative with the terms, and the ' lender ' at that point has
maximum leverage.  
As the potential lender,  Ask the following questions: How much money do you
need to 
borrow ? When do you need the money ?   When  can you repay ?

After the borrower answers those three questions, the lender the directs the
borrower to 
write a check to lender, for amount to be loaned, dated the agreed repayment
date.
Asking for the repayment check upfront as a necessary condition to the loan
eliminates 
having to ' remind ' the borrower of his obligation, and prevents
'misunderstandings' and 
tremendously minimizes the hassle of lending.   












--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
 
  In the 1950's, a few people in India helped Maharishi a lot 
  when he was struggling financially.
  
  Later on when Maharishi copyrighted the TM and started getting 
  millions of dollars, he ignored them completely.!!  He never 
  even acknowledged those who helped him go to the west and 
  establish himself financialy secure.
  
  Both Deepak Chopra's father and Chopra helped Maharishi a lot 
  and yet in the end he kicked Chopra out.!!
  
  Perhaps both Bill Gates and Maharishi have something in common.
 
 Exactly.
 
 I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind
 of pity party for Louis and all he's been through,
 and that we were supposed to express our compassion
 and our admiration of him sticking to his principles
 throughout it all.
 
 Ok, I *do* feel compassion for his hard times. And on
 some level I feel some admiration for him sticking to
 his principles. I just couldn't help noticing that
 those principles don't seem to involve repaying the
 people who loaned him money or invested in his busi-
 ness ideas in the first place. The principles are more 
 about sticking to the purity of his vision.
 
 Well, I'm sorry, but I just don't respect that as much
 as TMers and other spiritual people seem to. And the 
 reason is that over the years I've loaned money to a
 *lot* of people, *none* of whom ever repaid a dime of
 it. None of them ever *thought* of repaying a dime of
 it. They used it to pay for their courses, or their
 rent, or their business schemes that never worked out,
 or in one case, their women. 
 
 And they thought of all of these things they spent the 
 money on as an integral part of their spiritual sadhana,
 and thus somehow off the books. The general attitude
 was that if it helps them pursue enlightenment (or what-
 ever their *personal* goals were), these are not debts
 that need to be respected but money flowing in from the 
 universe -- an expression of support of nature.
 
 Excuse me, but the money flowing in was an expres-
 sion of a friend trying to help them, a friend who did 
 not have that much money in the first place, and had to
 do without a few things himself f*in order to* help 
 them out.
 
 Not a penny ever got repaid. 
 
 And not *one* of them ever felt bad about it.
 
 I think there is something *wrong* with this. I think
 that it's wrong when some meditator bums money to pay
 his rent because he's too evolved to work, and I 
 think there is something wrong with it when someone
 meditator comes up with a get rich quick scheme and 
 winds up defrauding a number of his meditating friends 
 when the scheme goes belly up.
 
 Louis may NOT have had anything like this in mind; the
 whole problem may be that he wrote what he did without
 clarifying the details of these people who backed
 him who are now so unevolved as to want their money
 back. It could be a simple failure of language, and
 I may be up on my soapbox without cause. If so, I 
 apologize in advance.
 
 But the whole schtick in this post was principle,
 and I for one couldn't help but notice that the one
 principle that kept getting ignored was *paying back*
 the people who invested money.
 
 If it had been me, I would have gone wherever I could
 have found work and paid back every penny. *Then* I 
 would have started over on some new plan. That's my 
 definition of commitment, belief, trust, and how to 
 deal with adversity. 
 
 You can call me non-spiritual for feeling this way
 if you want, but that's how I feel. Principle is 

[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Generally, this was to be paid in US $100 bills - 
  higher vibratory energy, ex-members say. Gifts and 
  costly special excursions are extra: In practice, 
  members give Lenz almost all their money, according 
  to published reports and ex-followers. They squeeze 
  into shared, unfurnished apartments while he flies 
  in a Lear jet between houses in Long Island, Santa 
  Fe, and Los Angeles.
 
 I'm more impressed with the TMO's laundering skills.
  
 Turg, your former leader was either insane or the biggest 
 asshole to ever occupy a human body.  

Very possibly both. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread mainstream20016
Well, Louis, when he said he didn't have the money, perhaps he was thinking 
that his 
family, their shelter, and their food needs competed with the repayment.  Did 
he offer a 
substantial partial repayment ?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 this is a good technique as long as the person has the money by the time the 
 check is 
deposited. Once I did that with a guy and he got money but did not pay.   We 
called the 
bank verified the money was there and took it.   He kept saying he did not have 
money.
 
 --- On Mon, 8/25/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:24 PM
 
 There's a technique to lending money that works really well to increase the
 odds of getting 
 repaid.  When a person approaches you and asks to borrow, he is usually very
 upbeat, and 
 cooperative with the terms, and the ' lender ' at that point has
 maximum leverage.  
 As the potential lender,  Ask the following questions: How much money do you
 need to 
 borrow ? When do you need the money ?   When  can you repay ?
 
 After the borrower answers those three questions, the lender the directs the
 borrower to 
 write a check to lender, for amount to be loaned, dated the agreed repayment
 date.
 Asking for the repayment check upfront as a necessary condition to the loan
 eliminates 
 having to ' remind ' the borrower of his obligation, and prevents
 'misunderstandings' and 
 tremendously minimizes the hassle of lending.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
  
   In the 1950's, a few people in India helped Maharishi a lot 
   when he was struggling financially.
   
   Later on when Maharishi copyrighted the TM and started getting 
   millions of dollars, he ignored them completely.!!  He never 
   even acknowledged those who helped him go to the west and 
   establish himself financialy secure.
   
   Both Deepak Chopra's father and Chopra helped Maharishi a lot 
   and yet in the end he kicked Chopra out.!!
   
   Perhaps both Bill Gates and Maharishi have something in common.
  
  Exactly.
  
  I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind
  of pity party for Louis and all he's been through,
  and that we were supposed to express our compassion
  and our admiration of him sticking to his principles
  throughout it all.
  
  Ok, I *do* feel compassion for his hard times. And on
  some level I feel some admiration for him sticking to
  his principles. I just couldn't help noticing that
  those principles don't seem to involve repaying the
  people who loaned him money or invested in his busi-
  ness ideas in the first place. The principles are more 
  about sticking to the purity of his vision.
  
  Well, I'm sorry, but I just don't respect that as much
  as TMers and other spiritual people seem to. And the 
  reason is that over the years I've loaned money to a
  *lot* of people, *none* of whom ever repaid a dime of
  it. None of them ever *thought* of repaying a dime of
  it. They used it to pay for their courses, or their
  rent, or their business schemes that never worked out,
  or in one case, their women. 
  
  And they thought of all of these things they spent the 
  money on as an integral part of their spiritual sadhana,
  and thus somehow off the books. The general attitude
  was that if it helps them pursue enlightenment (or what-
  ever their *personal* goals were), these are not debts
  that need to be respected but money flowing in from the 
  universe -- an expression of support of nature.
  
  Excuse me, but the money flowing in was an expres-
  sion of a friend trying to help them, a friend who did 
  not have that much money in the first place, and had to
  do without a few things himself f*in order to* help 
  them out.
  
  Not a penny ever got repaid. 
  
  And not *one* of them ever felt bad about it.
  
  I think there is something *wrong* with this. I think
  that it's wrong when some meditator bums money to pay
  his rent because he's too evolved to work, and I 
  think there is something wrong with it when someone
  meditator comes up with a get rich quick scheme and 
  winds up defrauding a number of his meditating friends 
  when the scheme goes belly up.
  
  Louis may NOT have had anything like this in mind; the
  whole problem may be that he wrote what he did without
  clarifying the details of these people who backed
  him who are now so unevolved as to want their money
  back. It could be a simple failure of language, and
  I may be up on my soapbox without cause. If so, I 
  apologize in advance.
  
  But the whole schtick in this post was principle,
  and I for one couldn't help but notice that the one
  principle that kept 

[FairfieldLife] 'Bon Jovi Springstein/Perform Thurs'

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
Jersey Boys, Go O-Ba-Ma


  

[FairfieldLife] Crop Circle at Eastfield, Wiltshire, reported 25. August

2008-08-25 Thread nablusoss1008
According to Drpeter the Crop Circles are made by a few english lads 
with a few beers in them. Well, here's what these lads have been up 
to lately:

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/eastfield4/eastfield2008d.html



Re: [FairfieldLife] Crop Circle at Eastfield, Wiltshire, reported 25. August

2008-08-25 Thread Peter
Nabs, that looks more like the lads have been smoking reefer! ;-)


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 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Crop Circle at Eastfield, Wiltshire, reported 25. 
 August
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:32 PM
 According to Drpeter the Crop Circles are made by a few
 english lads 
 with a few beers in them. Well, here's what these
 lads have been up 
 to lately:
 
 http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/eastfield4/eastfield2008d.html
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle at Liddington

2008-08-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nabs, that looks more like the lads have been smoking reefer! ;-)

More Crop Circles made during the last few days by lads smoking 
reefer !

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/liddington/liddington2008.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The War Machine= JOhn mCcain'

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote:
 
  Lets see what happens this week in Colorado. I hope they do 
  something with the Hillary Clinton Coalition like inform them 
  that Hillary will be Secretary of State.
 
 I hope they ignore her like the nonentity she is.

I really think she has come go grips with reality,
And I think she will always have a high position,
In the Dems Party.
REally the Clintons are party people(no pun intended).

It's the stages of grief these woman are experiences,
Because they have been totally dreaming of Hillary as Pres...
For years...
Many gays and lesbians were also passionately for Hillary...
That group has never been too enthusiastic for Obama...
They tend to have bought into materialism, and such.
But, anyway, the stages of grief: denial, then anger...
They are still angry, but will come down from the addiction to 
victimization, 
And will not allow themselves to be brainwashed to vote against their 
own interests, by November 4, 2008.
Besides, the younger people will show up in droves, just like they did 
in the primary, because they know what is at stake:
A possible military dictatorship, and reinstituting the draft...
R.G.
R.G.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Crop Circle at Honey Street

2008-08-25 Thread nablusoss1008
Note that the brits names the top one The Goddess

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/honeystreet4/honeystreet2008d.h
tml



[FairfieldLife] Crop Circle, Morgan Hill, Wiltshire reported 24. August

2008-08-25 Thread nablusoss1008
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/morgan/morgan2008.html

Still produced by english lads smoking reefer, according to the 
local FFL expert drpete !



[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for the big reveal (or Why Dr. Pete can't vote for Obama)

2008-08-25 Thread Robert
 (snip)
 Do you not agree that you cannot vote for him?  I mean, how could 
you 
 vote for someone who said such an awful thing?

So, let me see here, what you are judging, and what is your frame of 
reference...
You are a kid with a white mom, and an African black father, who left 
him.
Being a self-aware kid, he began to recognize, that he could do 
something special, because he saw Michael Jordon levitate, and wanted 
to somehow, reach the soul of the father, that had abandoned him.
Because he had the grace of movement and natural coordination, he was 
right about his choice, and it turned out to be the love of his life 
at the time.
They even named a three point shot after him, called the 'Obama 
Shot'...
His destiny is very different than most people.
All celebrity personalities are different than most people.
And who is the strangest and most different of all...
And the most scarey, to me, besides Bush: John McCain.
He's sold his soul...
He's all mask, with nothing inside.
He's like the walking dead, like his dark followers...
R.G.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
The guy was a sleeze bag.   I dont know what you are thinking.   but who said 
family come before being able to pay back.  That is in your head not mine.   
Timing is my choice as it should be because if I had been of the mind that 
someone said and just went and got a job and worked to pay them off I would be 
looking good and taking care of myself.   In truth when people say that what 
they really do is declare bankruptcy.   Because in a normal job in a normal 
life the things that come are more important than the past and the mind does a 
great job of justification.   Better to stick it out and make it work if you 
really intend to pay.   

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:42 PM

Well, Louis, when he said he didn't have the money, perhaps he was thinking
that his 
family, their shelter, and their food needs competed with the repayment.  Did
he offer a 
substantial partial repayment ?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 this is a good technique as long as the person has the money by the time
the check is 
deposited. Once I did that with a guy and he got money but did not pay.   We
called the 
bank verified the money was there and took it.   He kept saying he did not
have money.
 
 --- On Mon, 8/25/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: commitment belief trust and adveristy
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 12:24 PM
 
 There's a technique to lending money that works really well to
increase the
 odds of getting 
 repaid.  When a person approaches you and asks to borrow, he is usually
very
 upbeat, and 
 cooperative with the terms, and the ' lender ' at that point has
 maximum leverage.  
 As the potential lender,  Ask the following questions: How much money do
you
 need to 
 borrow ? When do you need the money ?   When  can you repay ?
 
 After the borrower answers those three questions, the lender the directs
the
 borrower to 
 write a check to lender, for amount to be loaned, dated the agreed
repayment
 date.
 Asking for the repayment check upfront as a necessary condition to the
loan
 eliminates 
 having to ' remind ' the borrower of his obligation, and prevents
 'misunderstandings' and 
 tremendously minimizes the hassle of lending.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@
wrote:
  
   In the 1950's, a few people in India helped Maharishi a lot 
   when he was struggling financially.
   
   Later on when Maharishi copyrighted the TM and started getting 
   millions of dollars, he ignored them completely.!!  He never 
   even acknowledged those who helped him go to the west and 
   establish himself financialy secure.
   
   Both Deepak Chopra's father and Chopra helped Maharishi a
lot 
   and yet in the end he kicked Chopra out.!!
   
   Perhaps both Bill Gates and Maharishi have something in common.
  
  Exactly.
  
  I know that this thread was supposed to be a kind
  of pity party for Louis and all he's been through,
  and that we were supposed to express our compassion
  and our admiration of him sticking to his principles
  throughout it all.
  
  Ok, I *do* feel compassion for his hard times. And on
  some level I feel some admiration for him sticking to
  his principles. I just couldn't help noticing that
  those principles don't seem to involve repaying the
  people who loaned him money or invested in his busi-
  ness ideas in the first place. The principles are more 
  about sticking to the purity of his vision.
  
  Well, I'm sorry, but I just don't respect that as much
  as TMers and other spiritual people seem to. And the 
  reason is that over the years I've loaned money to a
  *lot* of people, *none* of whom ever repaid a dime of
  it. None of them ever *thought* of repaying a dime of
  it. They used it to pay for their courses, or their
  rent, or their business schemes that never worked out,
  or in one case, their women. 
  
  And they thought of all of these things they spent the 
  money on as an integral part of their spiritual sadhana,
  and thus somehow off the books. The general attitude
  was that if it helps them pursue enlightenment (or what-
  ever their *personal* goals were), these are not debts
  that need to be respected but money flowing in from the 
  universe -- an expression of support of nature.
  
  Excuse me, but the money flowing in was an expres-
  sion of a friend trying to help them, a friend who did 
  not have that much money in the first place, and had to
  do without a few things himself f*in order to* help 
  them out.
  
  Not a penny ever got repaid. 
  
  And not *one* 

[FairfieldLife] Re: And now for the big reveal (or Why Dr. Pete can't vote for Obama)

2008-08-25 Thread yifuxero
--Thx Babaji, as usual.
Last night somebody appeared to me in a dream saying that Dick Cheney 
would die of a heart attack soon. (but the exact time frame wasn't 
given). I'd say within a few weeks.
 I'm sticking with this as a prediction.  If wrong, I will subject 
myself to the ordeal of saying 1 Hail Mary and 1 Our Father.


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  (snip)
  Do you not agree that you cannot vote for him?  I mean, how could 
 you 
  vote for someone who said such an awful thing?
 
 So, let me see here, what you are judging, and what is your frame 
of 
 reference...
 You are a kid with a white mom, and an African black father, who 
left 
 him.
 Being a self-aware kid, he began to recognize, that he could do 
 something special, because he saw Michael Jordon levitate, and 
wanted 
 to somehow, reach the soul of the father, that had abandoned him.
 Because he had the grace of movement and natural coordination, he 
was 
 right about his choice, and it turned out to be the love of his 
life 
 at the time.
 They even named a three point shot after him, called the 'Obama 
 Shot'...
 His destiny is very different than most people.
 All celebrity personalities are different than most people.
 And who is the strangest and most different of all...
 And the most scarey, to me, besides Bush: John McCain.
 He's sold his soul...
 He's all mask, with nothing inside.
 He's like the walking dead, like his dark followers...
 R.G.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Portal to Maya Underworld Found in Mexico?

2008-08-25 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/08/080822-maya-maze.html
 
 Link
 
 Portal to Maya Underworld Found in Mexico?
 
 Alexis Okeowo in México City
 for National Geographic News
 August 22, 2008
 
 A labyrinth filled with stone temples and pyramids in 14 caves—some  
 underwater—have been uncovered on Mexico's Yucatán Peninsula,  
 archaeologists announced last week.
 
 The discovery has experts wondering whether Maya legend inspired the  
 construction of the underground complex—or vice versa.
 
 According to Maya myth, the souls of the dead had to follow a dog  
 with night vision on a horrific and watery path and endure myriad  
 challenges before they could rest in the afterlife.
 
 In one of the recently found caves, researchers discovered a nearly  
 300-foot (90-meter) concrete road that ends at a column standing in  
 front of a body of water. (...)

Fascinating! Link below is for Manly P. Hall who is probably the top
most authority on these ancient civilizations and has done some
interesting research on them.  His contention is that the Mayan
civilization 'may' have come from the ancient continents of Atlantis
which covered
the entire globe at one point, his audio cassette is outstanding on
this subject which I have on MP3.

http://www.manlyphall.org/articles/manly-p-hall-and-the-mysteries/

One thing refreshing about Manly is he never said he just 'knew', it was
always an intellectual analysis based upon empirical research.



[FairfieldLife] 'Biden's Not in it for Lust/Greed/War'

2008-08-25 Thread Robert






Others seem to have insatiable greed...
Others resort to lust, insatiable lust.
Let's turn the page on lust and greed, 
And now and unnecessary war...
 
R.G.  Madison, WI



  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: And now for the big reveal (or Why Dr. Pete can't vote for Obama)

2008-08-25 Thread gullible fool

I'm sticking with this as a prediction.  If wrong, I will subject 
myself to the ordeal of saying 1 Hail Mary and 1 Our Father.

I don't think that is enough penance. I think you should search the FFL 
archives on 'Pleiadian' and read every word of every post until you're certain 
you are cured.
 
...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: And now for the big reveal (or Why Dr. Pete 
can't vote for Obama)
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:20 PM

--Thx Babaji, as usual.
Last night somebody appeared to me in a dream saying that Dick Cheney 
would die of a heart attack soon. (but the exact time frame wasn't 
given). I'd say within a few weeks.
 I'm sticking with this as a prediction.  If wrong, I will subject 
myself to the ordeal of saying 1 Hail Mary and 1 Our Father.


- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  (snip)
  Do you not agree that you cannot vote for him?  I mean, how could 
 you 
  vote for someone who said such an awful thing?
 
 So, let me see here, what you are judging, and what is your frame 
of 
 reference...
 You are a kid with a white mom, and an African black father, who 
left 
 him.
 Being a self-aware kid, he began to recognize, that he could do 
 something special, because he saw Michael Jordon levitate, and 
wanted 
 to somehow, reach the soul of the father, that had abandoned him.
 Because he had the grace of movement and natural coordination, he 
was 
 right about his choice, and it turned out to be the love of his 
life 
 at the time.
 They even named a three point shot after him, called the 'Obama 
 Shot'...
 His destiny is very different than most people.
 All celebrity personalities are different than most people.
 And who is the strangest and most different of all...
 And the most scarey, to me, besides Bush: John McCain.
 He's sold his soul...
 He's all mask, with nothing inside.
 He's like the walking dead, like his dark followers...
 R.G.






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[FairfieldLife] The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB

Could someone who lives there please explain America
to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
or one of those other horror movies where a large
percentage of the population has become infected 
with a virus that makes them go crazy.

There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
who are infected with this virus.

They say the same things that we first heard on this
forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
treatment, as does Hill herself. 

I rest my case. All six million of these people are
completely, over-the-top, CDC-concern-worthy insane.

I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.

Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 

And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.

She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*. 

And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
even more embarrassing. 

Go to the Free Clinic and get a shot for this virus that
has infected you and made you act like Bull Dykes pissed
off that a skinny black guy with ill-fitting boxing trunks
laid out their heroine in six rounds, without breaking a
sweat. She LOST. She's HISTORY. 

And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.

It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
will be more widely recognized than HIV. Because it's
more dangerous. 

HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul.
It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because
of who you are or what you believe.

You deserve shit. You lost. Get over it.





Re: [FairfieldLife] The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
Nicely put

I believe that a lot of the noise is hype.   It makes for better 
entertainment.   Conflict sells there are ratings involved and all kinds of 
things called making entertainment.   By Friday Obama will have a great lead 
over McCain and the clintons will be his greatest supporters.

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Entitlement Virus
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 2:57 PM

Could someone who lives there please explain America
to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
or one of those other horror movies where a large
percentage of the population has become infected 
with a virus that makes them go crazy.

There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
who are infected with this virus.

They say the same things that we first heard on this
forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
treatment, as does Hill herself. 

I rest my case. All six million of these people are
completely, over-the-top, CDC-concern-worthy insane.

I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.

Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 

And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.

She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*. 

And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
even more embarrassing. 

Go to the Free Clinic and get a shot for this virus that
has infected you and made you act like Bull Dykes pissed
off that a skinny black guy with ill-fitting boxing trunks
laid out their heroine in six rounds, without breaking a
sweat. She LOST. She's HISTORY. 

And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.

It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
will be more widely recognized than HIV. Because it's
more dangerous. 

HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul.
It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because
of who you are or what you believe.

You deserve shit. You lost. Get over it.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread gullible fool

Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 

An hour or two ago, someone on CNBC was incredulous Obama had not yet made a 
gesture to pay off Hillary's campaign debt. The money would, of course, come 
from the same contributions that would otherwise go toward defeating McCain.  

...but mountain doesn't move!

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Entitlement Virus
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 1:57 PM

Could someone who lives there please explain America
to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
or one of those other horror movies where a large
percentage of the population has become infected 
with a virus that makes them go crazy.

There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
who are infected with this virus.

They say the same things that we first heard on this
forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
treatment, as does Hill herself. 

I rest my case. All six million of these people are
completely, over-the-top, CDC-concern-worthy insane.

I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.

Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 

And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.

She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*. 

And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
even more embarrassing. 

Go to the Free Clinic and get a shot for this virus that
has infected you and made you act like Bull Dykes pissed
off that a skinny black guy with ill-fitting boxing trunks
laid out their heroine in six rounds, without breaking a
sweat. She LOST. She's HISTORY. 

And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.

It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
will be more widely recognized than HIV. Because it's
more dangerous. 

HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul.
It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because
of who you are or what you believe.

You deserve shit. You lost. Get over it.






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[FairfieldLife] Long-Term Exposure to Incense Raises Cancer Risk

2008-08-25 Thread Dick Mays

http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20080825/hl_hsn/longtermexposuretoincenseraisescancerrisk
Long-Term Exposure to Incense Raises Cancer Risk
By Amanda Gardner
HealthDay Reporter
36 minutes ago


MONDAY, Aug. 25 (HealthDay News) -- Exposure to burning incense over 
long periods of time raises the risk of developing cancers of the 
upper respiratory tract, a new study shows.


Interestingly, the practice did not increase the overall risk of lung cancer.

Given that our results are backed by numerous experimental studies 
showing that incense is a powerful producer of particulate matter and 
that incense smoke contains carcinogenic substances, I believe 
incense should be used with caution, said study author Dr. Jeppe 
Friborg, of the department of epidemiology research at Statens Serum 
Institute in Copenhagen, Denmark. That is, frequent use in rooms 
where people live should be minimized, or at least sufficient 
ventilation should be secured. In our study, we find the increased 
risk of cancer to be present in individuals reporting frequent use of 
incense for many years, thus, repeated exposure for years should 
probably be avoided.


Others echoed the thought.

The American Lung Association is going to add it as a risk factor, 
said Dr. Norman Edelman, chief medical officer of the association. 
It's not nearly the danger of smoking a pack a day for 20 years, but 
it's a danger.


Not only is incense burned regularly as part of daily life in large 
swaths of Asia, the practice is also popular among certain segments 
in the West.


Incense burning produces particulate matter and is known to contain 
possible carcinogens such as polyaromatic hyodrcarbons (PAHs), 
carbonyls and benzene.


There have also been reports linking the burning of incense with 
cancer but the results have been inconsistent.


For this study, researchers conducted face-to-face interviews with 
more than 61,000 Singapore Chinese aged 45 to 74 who were cancer-free 
at the beginning of the study.


Incense burning almost doubled the risk of developing squamous cell 
upper respiratory tract carcinomas including nasal/sinus, tongue, 
mouth and laryngeal. There was an increased risk both in smokers and 
in nonsmokers, pointing to an independent effect of incense smoke.


There was no overall increased risk of lung cancer, but it did 
heighten the risk of squamous cell carcinoma of the lung.


Will incense go the way of tobacco? Not necessarily, said some experts.

Certainly I think bathing yourself in particles is probably not the 
smartest thing in the world . . . but I think very few people fill up 
their room with incense, said Dr. Arthur Frankel, a professor of 
medicine at Texas AM Health Science Center College of Medicine and 
director of the Cancer Center, Cancer Research Institute and Division 
of Hematology/Oncology at Scott  White in Temple.


The findings, which are in the Oct. 1 issue of Cancer, might also 
point researchers toward other household practices that should be 
investigated.


It's a population-based study, which means that you can make an 
association but not necessarily a conclusion, said Dr. Erin Fleener, 
a clinical assistant professor in internal medicine at the Texas AM 
Health Science Center College of Medicine and an oncologist at the 
Bryan-College Station Cancer Clinic. It probably promotes more work 
in the area of routine household items and things we need to be 
looking at more prospectively to make a clear cause-and-effect 
relationship.


In general, though, it's not a bad idea to avoid environmental 
pollutants of various types.


Anything that affects air quality negatively is not a good thing, 
said Dr. Len Horvitz, a pulmonary specialist at Lenox Hill Hospital 
in New York City. Burning in general and the release of smoke, these 
things are certainly to be avoided. At the very least, chemical 
irritants will set off asthma, and that's reversible. Cancer is not 
reversible.


This is not unlike the type of risk that one experiences from 
secondhand tobacco smoke, said Dr. Len Lichtenfeld, deputy chief 
medical officer of the American Cancer Society. At the end of the 
day, people who use incense casually, I don't think that's a cause 
for major concern, but those cultures which embrace incense as part 
of their daily lifestyles have to consider this has a real potential 
risk for cancer.


More information
Visit the National Cancer Institute for more on respiratory cancers.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 Could someone who lives there please explain America
 to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
 in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
 of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
 From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
 or one of those other horror movies where a large
 percentage of the population has become infected 
 with a virus that makes them go crazy.

 There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
 It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
 that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
 so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
 they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
 George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
 fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
 who are infected with this virus.

 They say the same things that we first heard on this
 forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
 virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
 nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
 to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
 somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
 treatment, as does Hill herself. 

 I rest my case. All six million of these people are
 completely, over-the-top, CDC-concern-worthy insane.

 I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
 is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
 low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
 people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
 the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
 the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
 Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
 and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
 PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.

 Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
 into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 

 And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
 we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
 them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.

 She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*. 

 And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
 even more embarrassing. 

 Go to the Free Clinic and get a shot for this virus that
 has infected you and made you act like Bull Dykes pissed
 off that a skinny black guy with ill-fitting boxing trunks
 laid out their heroine in six rounds, without breaking a
 sweat. She LOST. She's HISTORY. 

 And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
 driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.

 It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
 will be more widely recognized than HIV. Because it's
 more dangerous. 

 HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul.
 It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because
 of who you are or what you believe.

 You deserve shit. You lost. Get over it.
I thought the cartoon link I posted here sort of said it all though it 
probably could be taken both ways:
http://www.comics.com/editoons/lbenson/
(in case you missed it)

I'm not a joiner.  I am decline to state on the election rolls which 
is what used to be independent until an Independent Party formed.  I'm 
not convinced that the election is going to solve anything.  It is a 
controlled exercise by the elite anyway.  Whomever wins is their puppet 
, tweedle dee versus tweedle dum (or tweedle dumber).   There's nothing 
much  anyone can do about the debt that the Bush Crime Family has put 
the country into though that has been going on since the Raygun 
administration (including Clinton).  There's always been a war for the 
robber barons to get their serfs back.  They may be winning but I for 
one will not be anyone's serf.  Anyone who thinks I am their serf won't 
be able to think the next day because they won't have a body to think 
in.  And I won't care about the consequences.  I hope millions share my 
conviction.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Could someone who lives there please explain America
 to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
 in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
 of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
 From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
 or one of those other horror movies where a large
 percentage of the population has become infected 
 with a virus that makes them go crazy.

Sure, I'll be happy to explain it to you. The
reason it looks like that to you is that you've
got practically everything about it wrong.

 There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
 It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
 that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
 so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
 they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
 George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
 fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
 who are infected with this virus.
 
 They say the same things that we first heard on this
 forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
 virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
 nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
 to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
 somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
 treatment, as does Hill herself.

In fact, of course, I didn't say either of these
things, the quote marks notwithstanding. (And of
course, Barry never meant to suggest any such
thing.)

Actually, Barry made those quotes up out of his
own pointy little head.

Nor, I'm sure, did he mean to imply, in the first
paragraph above, that I've said I'd be voting for
McCain.

snip
 I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
 is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
 low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
 people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
 the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
 the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
 Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
 and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
 PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.

No, actually all Hillary supporters are asking
for is to be treated decently and with respect.

 Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
 into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 
 
 And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
 we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
 them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.
 
 She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*.

Well, no, actually she didn't lose big. As Barry
himself notes (ooopsie!), 18 million people (both
men and women) voted for her in the primary, either
slightly less than or slightly more than Obama,
depending on how you count them.

It was one of the, if not *the*, most closely
contested primaries in history. Traditionally,
when the losing candidate has given the winning
candidate a good run for his or her money, the
winner goes to considerable lengths to reach out
to the loser's supporters--both because it's the
right thing to do ethically, and pragmatically,
because the winner needs their votes in the
general.
 
 And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
 even more embarrassing.

Only to those consumed by Clinton Derangement Syndrome
(or, on this forum, Judy Derangement Syndrome) who are
also drunk on Obama-flavor Kool-Aid.

(Speaking of Judy Derangement Syndrome, if I had been
an Obama devotee, what are the chances that Barry
would now be one of those condemning the Democratic
Party for having been stupid enough to nominate
Obama?)

snip
 And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
 driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.
 
 It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
 will be more widely recognized than HIV.

Well, no, that's actually rather low down on the
list of reasons for having supported Hillary.

 Because it's more dangerous.

(Barry, as we all know, believes that Americans are
driven by FEAR and takes every opportunity to point
out to us how foolish our fears are. Well, *almost*
every opportunity, except when he wants us to be
afraid of something.)

 HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul.
 It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because
 of who you are or what you believe.

Wish I had a nickel--oh, heck, even a penny--for
every time during the primary I heard an Obama
supporter suggest that *he* deserved the nomination.
Now it's being used as the excuse for refusing to
make nice with Hillary's supporters.




[FairfieldLife] Long-Term Exposure to Incense Raises Cancer Risk

2008-08-25 Thread Rick Archer
http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20080825/hl_hsn/longtermexposuretoincenseraisesc
ancerrisk

Long-Term Exposure to Incense Raises Cancer Risk
By Amanda Gardner
HealthDay Reporter
36 minutes ago

 

MONDAY, Aug. 25 (HealthDay News) -- Exposure to burning incense over long
periods of time raises the risk of developing cancers of the upper
respiratory tract, a new study shows.

 

Interestingly, the practice did not increase the overall risk of lung
cancer.

Given that our results are backed by numerous experimental studies showing
that incense is a powerful producer of particulate matter and that incense
smoke contains carcinogenic substances, I believe incense should be used
with caution, said study author Dr. Jeppe Friborg, of the department of
epidemiology research at Statens Serum Institute in Copenhagen, Denmark.
That is, frequent use in rooms where people live should be minimized, or at
least sufficient ventilation should be secured. In our study, we find the
increased risk of cancer to be present in individuals reporting frequent use
of incense for many years, thus, repeated exposure for years should probably
be avoided.

Others echoed the thought.

The American Lung Association is going to add it as a risk factor, said
Dr. Norman Edelman, chief medical officer of the association. It's not
nearly the danger of smoking a pack a day for 20 years, but it's a danger.

Not only is incense burned regularly as part of daily life in large swaths
of Asia, the practice is also popular among certain segments in the West.

Incense burning produces particulate matter and is known to contain possible
carcinogens such as polyaromatic hyodrcarbons (PAHs), carbonyls and benzene.

There have also been reports linking the burning of incense with cancer but
the results have been inconsistent.

For this study, researchers conducted face-to-face interviews with more than
61,000 Singapore Chinese aged 45 to 74 who were cancer-free at the beginning
of the study.

Incense burning almost doubled the risk of developing squamous cell upper
respiratory tract carcinomas including nasal/sinus, tongue, mouth and
laryngeal. There was an increased risk both in smokers and in nonsmokers,
pointing to an independent effect of incense smoke.

There was no overall increased risk of lung cancer, but it did heighten the
risk of squamous cell carcinoma of the lung.

Will incense go the way of tobacco? Not necessarily, said some experts.

Certainly I think bathing yourself in particles is probably not the
smartest thing in the world . . . but I think very few people fill up their
room with incense, said Dr. Arthur Frankel, a professor of medicine at
Texas AM Health Science Center College of Medicine and director of the
Cancer Center, Cancer Research Institute and Division of Hematology/Oncology
at Scott  White in Temple.

The findings, which are in the Oct. 1 issue of Cancer, might also point
researchers toward other household practices that should be investigated.

It's a population-based study, which means that you can make an association
but not necessarily a conclusion, said Dr. Erin Fleener, a clinical
assistant professor in internal medicine at the Texas AM Health Science
Center College of Medicine and an oncologist at the Bryan-College Station
Cancer Clinic. It probably promotes more work in the area of routine
household items and things we need to be looking at more prospectively to
make a clear cause-and-effect relationship.


In general, though, it's not a bad idea to avoid environmental pollutants of
various types.

Anything that affects air quality negatively is not a good thing, said Dr.
Len Horvitz, a pulmonary specialist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City.
Burning in general and the release of smoke, these things are certainly to
be avoided. At the very least, chemical irritants will set off asthma, and
that's reversible. Cancer is not reversible.

This is not unlike the type of risk that one experiences from secondhand
tobacco smoke, said Dr. Len Lichtenfeld, deputy chief medical officer of
the American Cancer Society. At the end of the day, people who use incense
casually, I don't think that's a cause for major concern, but those cultures
which embrace incense as part of their daily lifestyles have to consider
this has a real potential risk for cancer.


More information
Visit the National Cancer Institute for more on respiratory cancers.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread Bhairitu
authfriend wrote:
 snip
 Wish I had a nickel--oh, heck, even a penny--for
 every time during the primary I heard an Obama
 supporter suggest that *he* deserved the nomination.
 Now it's being used as the excuse for refusing to
 make nice with Hillary's supporters.
The bottom line is that many people including many Democrats do not like 
the Clintons.  This is not about Hillary being a woman, it is about her 
being a Clinton.  There are some fools that believed that if she were 
elected we'd get the prosperity of the Clinton years back.  Baloney, 
that was a bubble and it only happened for a sector of the public.  Many 
were left out.  The Clintons are machine politicians.  For that matter 
so is Obama but I'd would rather give him a chance than risk it on Hillary.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread boo_lives
2 thoughts to help explain - the first is that the media here loves
conflict, more than anything, and the obama-hillary thing is the only
conflict worth hyping in denver.  there are quite a few pissed off
hillary supporters (closer to 20% than 33%), but it's one thing to
still be pissed, another to not vote democratic in november, only a
very few very emotionally troubled will do that.  

I think the PUMAs (most disturbed hillary suppertors) do to feminism
what gay pride parades do for gay rights - they set the cause back a
few decades by manifesting all the worst stereotypes out there. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Could someone who lives there please explain America
 to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
 in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
 of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
 From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
 or one of those other horror movies where a large
 percentage of the population has become infected 
 with a virus that makes them go crazy.
 
 There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
 It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
 that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
 so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
 they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
 George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
 fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
 who are infected with this virus.
 
 They say the same things that we first heard on this
 forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
 virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
 nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
 to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
 somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
 treatment, as does Hill herself. 
 
 I rest my case. All six million of these people are
 completely, over-the-top, CDC-concern-worthy insane.
 
 I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
 is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
 low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
 people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
 the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
 the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
 Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
 and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
 PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.
 
 Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
 into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 
 
 And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
 we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
 them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.
 
 She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*. 
 
 And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
 even more embarrassing. 
 
 Go to the Free Clinic and get a shot for this virus that
 has infected you and made you act like Bull Dykes pissed
 off that a skinny black guy with ill-fitting boxing trunks
 laid out their heroine in six rounds, without breaking a
 sweat. She LOST. She's HISTORY. 
 
 And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
 driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.
 
 It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
 will be more widely recognized than HIV. Because it's
 more dangerous. 
 
 HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul.
 It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because
 of who you are or what you believe.
 
 You deserve shit. You lost. Get over it.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread mainstream20016

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2 thoughts to help explain - the first is that the media here loves
 conflict, more than anything, and the obama-hillary thing is the only
 conflict worth hyping in denver.  there are quite a few pissed off
 hillary supporters (closer to 20% than 33%), but it's one thing to
 still be pissed, another to not vote democratic in november, only a
 very few very emotionally troubled will do that.

 I think the PUMAs (most disturbed hillary suppertors) do to feminism
 what gay pride parades do for gay rights - they set the cause back a
 few decades by manifesting all the worst stereotypes out there.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
 
  Could someone who lives there please explain America
  to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
  in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
  of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
  From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
  or one of those other horror movies where a large
  percentage of the population has become infected
  with a virus that makes them go crazy.
 
  There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
  It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
  that a third of the people who voted for her are still
  so pissed off about the way she was treated that
  they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
  George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
  fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people
  who are infected with this virus.
 
  They say the same things that we first heard on this
  forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
  virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
  nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
  to Hillary supporters and show them that they are
  somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special'
  treatment, as does Hill herself.
 
  I rest my case. All six million of these people are
  completely, over-the-top, CDC-concern-worthy insane.
 
  I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
  is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
  low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
  people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
  the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
  the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a
  Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning
  and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE
  PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.
 
  Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
  into LOSER HISTORY by doing so.
 
  And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
  we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
  them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.
 
  She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*.
 
  And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is
  even more embarrassing.
 
  Go to the Free Clinic and get a shot for this virus that
  has infected you and made you act like Bull Dykes pissed
  off that a skinny black guy with ill-fitting boxing trunks
  laid out their heroine in six rounds, without breaking a
  sweat. She LOST. She's HISTORY.
 
  And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
  driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.
 
  It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
  will be more widely recognized than HIV. Because it's
  more dangerous.
 
  HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul.
  It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because
  of who you are or what you believe.
 
  You deserve shit. You lost. Get over it.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread mainstream20016
Hillary and Bill will each speak, primetime, to the Dem convention.  Watch for 
a lukewarm 
endorsement of Obama from the Clintons, as  Hillary and Bill are working for a 
McCain 
victory in Novemeber, to set Hillary up for another run in 2012.  In 
ClintonWorld, it's ALL 
about the Clintons, ALL THE TIME.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Could someone who lives there please explain America
 to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
 in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
 of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
 From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
 or one of those other horror movies where a large
 percentage of the population has become infected 
 with a virus that makes them go crazy.
 
 There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
 It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
 that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
 so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
 they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
 George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
 fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
 who are infected with this virus.
 
 They say the same things that we first heard on this
 forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
 virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
 nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
 to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
 somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
 treatment, as does Hill herself. 
 
 I rest my case. All six million of these people are
 completely, over-the-top, CDC-concern-worthy insane.
 
 I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
 is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
 low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
 people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
 the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
 the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
 Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
 and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
 PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.
 
 Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
 into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 
 
 And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
 we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
 them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.
 
 She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*. 
 
 And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
 even more embarrassing. 
 
 Go to the Free Clinic and get a shot for this virus that
 has infected you and made you act like Bull Dykes pissed
 off that a skinny black guy with ill-fitting boxing trunks
 laid out their heroine in six rounds, without breaking a
 sweat. She LOST. She's HISTORY. 
 
 And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
 driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.
 
 It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
 will be more widely recognized than HIV. Because it's
 more dangerous. 
 
 HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul.
 It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because
 of who you are or what you believe.
 
 You deserve shit. You lost. Get over it.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
Actually I think that if Hillary Clinton was Hillary Rodham she would be the VP 
nominee today..   

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 4:32 PM

authfriend wrote:
 snip
 Wish I had a nickel--oh, heck, even a penny--for
 every time during the primary I heard an Obama
 supporter suggest that *he* deserved the nomination.
 Now it's being used as the excuse for refusing to
 make nice with Hillary's supporters.
The bottom line is that many people including many Democrats do not like 
the Clintons.  This is not about Hillary being a woman, it is about her 
being a Clinton.  There are some fools that believed that if she were 
elected we'd get the prosperity of the Clinton years back.  Baloney, 
that was a bubble and it only happened for a sector of the public.  Many 
were left out.  The Clintons are machine politicians.  For that matter 
so is Obama but I'd would rather give him a chance than risk it on Hillary.




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread Louis McKenzie
we shall see I hope you are wrong.

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: mainstream20016 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 5:05 PM

Hillary and Bill will each speak, primetime, to the Dem convention.  Watch for a
lukewarm 
endorsement of Obama from the Clintons, as  Hillary and Bill are working for a
McCain 
victory in Novemeber, to set Hillary up for another run in 2012.  In
ClintonWorld, it's ALL 
about the Clintons, ALL THE TIME.  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Could someone who lives there please explain America
 to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
 in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
 of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
 From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
 or one of those other horror movies where a large
 percentage of the population has become infected 
 with a virus that makes them go crazy.
 
 There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
 It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
 that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
 so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
 they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
 George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
 fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
 who are infected with this virus.
 
 They say the same things that we first heard on this
 forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
 virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
 nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
 to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
 somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
 treatment, as does Hill herself. 
 
 I rest my case. All six million of these people are
 completely, over-the-top, CDC-concern-worthy insane.
 
 I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
 is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
 low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
 people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
 the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
 the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
 Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
 and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
 PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.
 
 Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
 into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 
 
 And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
 we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
 them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.
 
 She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*. 
 
 And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
 even more embarrassing. 
 
 Go to the Free Clinic and get a shot for this virus that
 has infected you and made you act like Bull Dykes pissed
 off that a skinny black guy with ill-fitting boxing trunks
 laid out their heroine in six rounds, without breaking a
 sweat. She LOST. She's HISTORY. 
 
 And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
 driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.
 
 It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
 will be more widely recognized than HIV. Because it's
 more dangerous. 
 
 HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul.
 It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because
 of who you are or what you believe.
 
 You deserve shit. You lost. Get over it.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB
Did you notice that Judy snipped the part about
Hillary supporters acting like Bull Dykes pissed
off that the little black guy knocked out their
heroine without breaking a sweat?  :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Could someone who lives there please explain America
  to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
  in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
  of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
  From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
  or one of those other horror movies where a large
  percentage of the population has become infected 
  with a virus that makes them go crazy.
 
 Sure, I'll be happy to explain it to you. The
 reason it looks like that to you is that you've
 got practically everything about it wrong.
 
  There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
  It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
  that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
  so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
  they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
  George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
  fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
  who are infected with this virus.
  
  They say the same things that we first heard on this
  forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
  virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
  nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
  to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
  somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
  treatment, as does Hill herself.
 
 In fact, of course, I didn't say either of these
 things, the quote marks notwithstanding. (And of
 course, Barry never meant to suggest any such
 thing.)
 
 Actually, Barry made those quotes up out of his
 own pointy little head.
 
 Nor, I'm sure, did he mean to imply, in the first
 paragraph above, that I've said I'd be voting for
 McCain.
 
 snip
  I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
  is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
  low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
  people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
  the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
  the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
  Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
  and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
  PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.
 
 No, actually all Hillary supporters are asking
 for is to be treated decently and with respect.
 
  Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
  into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 
  
  And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
  we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
  them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.
  
  She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*.
 
 Well, no, actually she didn't lose big. As Barry
 himself notes (ooopsie!), 18 million people (both
 men and women) voted for her in the primary, either
 slightly less than or slightly more than Obama,
 depending on how you count them.
 
 It was one of the, if not *the*, most closely
 contested primaries in history. Traditionally,
 when the losing candidate has given the winning
 candidate a good run for his or her money, the
 winner goes to considerable lengths to reach out
 to the loser's supporters--both because it's the
 right thing to do ethically, and pragmatically,
 because the winner needs their votes in the
 general.
  
  And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
  even more embarrassing.
 
 Only to those consumed by Clinton Derangement Syndrome
 (or, on this forum, Judy Derangement Syndrome) who are
 also drunk on Obama-flavor Kool-Aid.
 
 (Speaking of Judy Derangement Syndrome, if I had been
 an Obama devotee, what are the chances that Barry
 would now be one of those condemning the Democratic
 Party for having been stupid enough to nominate
 Obama?)
 
 snip
  And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
  driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.
  
  It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
  will be more widely recognized than HIV.
 
 Well, no, that's actually rather low down on the
 list of reasons for having supported Hillary.
 
  Because it's more dangerous.
 
 (Barry, as we all know, believes that Americans are
 driven by FEAR and takes every opportunity to point
 out to us how foolish our fears are. Well, *almost*
 every opportunity, except when he wants us to be
 afraid of something.)
 
  HIV just kills you. The Entitlement Virus kills your soul.
  It make you think that you *deserve* things, just because
  of who you are or what you believe.
 
 Wish I had a nickel--oh, heck, even a penny--for
 every time during the primary I heard an Obama
 supporter suggest that *he* deserved the nomination.
 Now it's being used as the excuse for 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did you notice that Judy snipped the part about
 Hillary supporters acting like Bull Dykes pissed
 off that the little black guy knocked out their
 heroine without breaking a sweat?  :-)

Did you also notice how the person who claimed
that she wouldn't be commenting on the convention
because she was going to be out of town suddenly
isn't?  :-)

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Could someone who lives there please explain America
   to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
   in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
   of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
   From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
   or one of those other horror movies where a large
   percentage of the population has become infected 
   with a virus that makes them go crazy.
  
  Sure, I'll be happy to explain it to you. The
  reason it looks like that to you is that you've
  got practically everything about it wrong.
  
   There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
   It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
   that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
   so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
   they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
   George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
   fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
   who are infected with this virus.
   
   They say the same things that we first heard on this
   forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
   virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
   nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
   to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
   somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
   treatment, as does Hill herself.
  
  In fact, of course, I didn't say either of these
  things, the quote marks notwithstanding. (And of
  course, Barry never meant to suggest any such
  thing.)
  
  Actually, Barry made those quotes up out of his
  own pointy little head.
  
  Nor, I'm sure, did he mean to imply, in the first
  paragraph above, that I've said I'd be voting for
  McCain.
  
  snip
   I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
   is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
   low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
   people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
   the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
   the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
   Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
   and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
   PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.
  
  No, actually all Hillary supporters are asking
  for is to be treated decently and with respect.
  
   Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
   into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 
   
   And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
   we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
   them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.
   
   She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*.
  
  Well, no, actually she didn't lose big. As Barry
  himself notes (ooopsie!), 18 million people (both
  men and women) voted for her in the primary, either
  slightly less than or slightly more than Obama,
  depending on how you count them.
  
  It was one of the, if not *the*, most closely
  contested primaries in history. Traditionally,
  when the losing candidate has given the winning
  candidate a good run for his or her money, the
  winner goes to considerable lengths to reach out
  to the loser's supporters--both because it's the
  right thing to do ethically, and pragmatically,
  because the winner needs their votes in the
  general.
   
   And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
   even more embarrassing.
  
  Only to those consumed by Clinton Derangement Syndrome
  (or, on this forum, Judy Derangement Syndrome) who are
  also drunk on Obama-flavor Kool-Aid.
  
  (Speaking of Judy Derangement Syndrome, if I had been
  an Obama devotee, what are the chances that Barry
  would now be one of those condemning the Democratic
  Party for having been stupid enough to nominate
  Obama?)
  
  snip
   And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
   driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.
   
   It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
   will be more widely recognized than HIV.
  
  Well, no, that's actually rather low down on the
  list of reasons for having supported Hillary.
  
   Because it's more dangerous.
  
  (Barry, as we all know, believes that Americans are
  driven by FEAR and takes every opportunity to point
  out to us how foolish our fears are. Well, *almost*
  every opportunity, except when he wants us to be
  afraid of something.)
  
   HIV just 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:40 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:


Did you notice that Judy snipped the part about
Hillary supporters acting like Bull Dykes pissed
off that the little black guy knocked out their
heroine without breaking a sweat?  :-)


If you think about it, Obama, as the much lesser-known quantity,
had nowhere to go but up.  Lose, and he's still young enough
to try  again.

Hillary, OTOH, had nowhere to go but down, as the candidate
so well-known her nomination seemed all but inevitable.  The
race really was hers to lose.  And she did, spectacularly.

(And no, Judy, she lost any way any rational person cares to
count.  Ignoring the caucuses was a serious mistake, to put
it mildly.)

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread Tom

She misremembered again.   ;-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Did you notice that Judy snipped the part about
  Hillary supporters acting like Bull Dykes pissed
  off that the little black guy knocked out their
  heroine without breaking a sweat?  :-)
 
 Did you also notice how the person who claimed
 that she wouldn't be commenting on the convention
 because she was going to be out of town suddenly
 isn't?  :-)
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
   
Could someone who lives there please explain America
to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
or one of those other horror movies where a large
percentage of the population has become infected 
with a virus that makes them go crazy.
   
   Sure, I'll be happy to explain it to you. The
   reason it looks like that to you is that you've
   got practically everything about it wrong.
   
There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
who are infected with this virus.

They say the same things that we first heard on this
forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
treatment, as does Hill herself.
   
   In fact, of course, I didn't say either of these
   things, the quote marks notwithstanding. (And of
   course, Barry never meant to suggest any such
   thing.)
   
   Actually, Barry made those quotes up out of his
   own pointy little head.
   
   Nor, I'm sure, did he mean to imply, in the first
   paragraph above, that I've said I'd be voting for
   McCain.
   
   snip
I'm *hoping* that it's a virus, and that somewhere there
is a cure, because if this virus really did evolve in
low-life places like New Jersey and infect this many
people, America is in for some really hard times. Fergit
the Pay 'em off with a gas rebate so they'll vote for
the retard schtick. This is more insane, more of a 
Pay us *real* Democrats off with attention and fawning 
and apologies and maybe, just maybe, we'll vote for THE 
PERSON WHO WON THE NOMINATION schtick.
   
   No, actually all Hillary supporters are asking
   for is to be treated decently and with respect.
   
Obama WON. Hillary not only LOST, she overspent her way
into LOSER HISTORY by doing so. 

And these six million whiners are trying to tell us that
we have to pander to her and to her followers and treat
them the way they *deserve* to be treated? Yeah, right.

She LOST. She lost BIG. She lost *embarrassingly*.
   
   Well, no, actually she didn't lose big. As Barry
   himself notes (ooopsie!), 18 million people (both
   men and women) voted for her in the primary, either
   slightly less than or slightly more than Obama,
   depending on how you count them.
   
   It was one of the, if not *the*, most closely
   contested primaries in history. Traditionally,
   when the losing candidate has given the winning
   candidate a good run for his or her money, the
   winner goes to considerable lengths to reach out
   to the loser's supporters--both because it's the
   right thing to do ethically, and pragmatically,
   because the winner needs their votes in the
   general.

And this whole nationwide Whining In Public Campaign is 
even more embarrassing.
   
   Only to those consumed by Clinton Derangement Syndrome
   (or, on this forum, Judy Derangement Syndrome) who are
   also drunk on Obama-flavor Kool-Aid.
   
   (Speaking of Judy Derangement Syndrome, if I had been
   an Obama devotee, what are the chances that Barry
   would now be one of those condemning the Democratic
   Party for having been stupid enough to nominate
   Obama?)
   
   snip
And she's history *because* of the same virus that has
driven you all as crazy as she and her husband are.

It's called The Entitlement Virus. In time, that phrase
will be more widely recognized than HIV.
   
   Well, no, that's actually rather low down on the
   list of reasons for having supported Hillary.
   
Because it's more dangerous.
   
   (Barry, as we all know, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Could someone who lives there please explain America
  to me? I mean, it's tough being all the way over here
  in Spain and trying to piece together a rational view
  of the media coverage of the Dem Convention so far.
  From over here, it's like watching Shaun Of The Dead
  or one of those other horror movies where a large
  percentage of the population has become infected 
  with a virus that makes them go crazy.
 
 Sure, I'll be happy to explain it to you. The
 reason it looks like that to you is that you've
 got practically everything about it wrong.
 
  There are photos and film clips of protesters shouting
  It's still about Hill! There are news pundits saying
  that a third of the people who voted for her are still 
  so pissed off about the way she was treated that 
  they're willing to vote for a Mini-Me version of
  George W. Bush, complete with a gotta-impress-my-Dad
  fetish instead of Obama. That's six *million* people 
  who are infected with this virus.
  
  They say the same things that we first heard on this
  forum, coming from one of the early carriers of the
  virus. Obama should have made the night he won the
  nomination all about Hillary. He needs to 'reach out'
  to Hillary supporters and show them that they are 
  somehow 'special,' that they *deserve* 'special' 
  treatment, as does Hill herself.
 
 In fact, of course, I didn't say either of these
 things, the quote marks notwithstanding. (And of
 course, Barry never meant to suggest any such
 thing.)
 
 Actually, Barry made those quotes up out of his
 own pointy little head.

Or potty. I've heard reefers are cheap in Spain, like everything 
else, how else could he survive there ?



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[FairfieldLife] Gymnastics - making it worthwhile

2008-08-25 Thread do.rflex


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO_BnsrWMnI



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 On Aug 25, 2008, at 3:40 PM, TurquoiseB wrote:
 
  Did you notice that Judy snipped the part about
  Hillary supporters acting like Bull Dykes pissed
  off that the little black guy knocked out their
  heroine without breaking a sweat?  :-)
 
 If you think about it, Obama, as the much lesser-known quantity,
 had nowhere to go but up.  Lose, and he's still young enough
 to try  again.
 
 Hillary, OTOH, had nowhere to go but down, as the candidate
 so well-known her nomination seemed all but inevitable.  The
 race really was hers to lose.  And she did, spectacularly.
 
 (And no, Judy, she lost any way any rational person cares to
 count.  Ignoring the caucuses was a serious mistake, to put
 it mildly.)
 
 Sal


**

Hillary's loss was probably due more to social factors than anything 
she said or did during her campaign:

WASHINGTON — Men and women agree that women are more honest, 
intelligent, compassionate, outgoing and creative, according to a 
survey out Monday. But men still get a significant edge as leaders — 
and from both sexes.

The finding, in a survey commissioned by the Pew Research Center, may 
help to explain why Hillary Clinton isn't making an acceptance speech 
this week and why acceptance of women as leaders in politics and 
business has been slow. 

Among men and women whom Pew surveyed, a large majority — 69 percent —
 thought that men and women made equally strong leaders. But only 6 
percent said women made better leaders while 21 percent said men did. 
Men and women held those views almost equally.

You've got a public that on some level has a complex mix of views on 
this subject: admiring of women, admiring of traits that they 
associate with leadership, (but) not yet admiring of women in top 
leadership roles, said Paul Taylor, the lead author of the report 
and the executive vice president at the research center.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/50619.html



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hope Leads POW'

2008-08-25 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Obama Leads McCain by 49% to 43% in Post-ABC Poll 
 
 
 
 Nadine Elsibai Sun Aug 24, 11:53 AM ET 
 
 Aug. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Democratic presidential candidate Barack 
Obama leads Republican rival John McCain by 49 percent to 43 percent 
nationwide among registered voters, according to a Washington Post-
ABC News poll released today. 
 
 
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 The results were little changed from a similar survey in mid-July, 
the Post said. The latest survey was conducted Aug. 19-22, before 
Obama announced he had chosen Senator Joe Biden of Delaware to be his 
vice presidential running mate. Three- quarters of registered voters, 
in answer to a hypothetical question, said choosing Biden wouldn't 
influence their vote either way, the Post reported. 
 The poll also showed that 20 percent of those who supported Senator 
Hillary Clinton of New York for the Democratic presidential 
nomination now support Arizona Senator McCain, while 70 percent of 
her supporters back Obama, the highest level since she suspended her 
campaign in June, the Post said. 
 The latest nationwide poll of 1,108 adults included interviews with 
916 registered voters. The poll, and the results among registered 
voters, have a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. 
 To contact the reporter on this story: Nadine Elsibai in Washington 
at [EMAIL PROTECTED]



*

Obama's advisors think it's a very close race that will require 
winning some traditionally red states:

http://tinyurl.com/5vzo8o



[FairfieldLife] Cows usually align themselves north-south

2008-08-25 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/6olv8k



[FairfieldLife] Brits behaving badly

2008-08-25 Thread bob_brigante
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/world/europe/24crete.html

And in Dubai, also this summer, a British man and woman who met during 
a drinking bout were arrested and charged with having sex on a beach, 
after repeatedly shouting abuse at a police officer who ordered them to 
stop. 

All of which leads to a natural question: Why? 

I think that in their country, they are like prisoners and they want 
to feel free, said Niki Pirovolaki, who works in a bakery on Malia's 
main street and often encounters addled Britons heading back to their 
hotels — if they can remember where they are staying, she said.

David Familton, a Briton who works in a club here, said that it was a 
question of emotional comfort. It's because of British culture — no 
one can relax, so they become inebriated to be the people they want to 
be, he said. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Cows usually align themselves north-south

2008-08-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/6olv8k


HeHe, nice :-)

One day also humans will understand the value of Vastu; today it's 
implemented mainly by a few visionary americans.

It could take 300 years for humanity to fully acknowledge our 
contribution to knowledge.
- Maharishi





Re: [FairfieldLife] Brits behaving badly

2008-08-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Aug 25, 2008, at 5:31 PM, bob_brigante wrote:

And in Dubai, also this summer, a British man and woman who met  
during

a drinking bout were arrested and charged with having sex on a beach,
after repeatedly shouting abuse at a police officer who ordered  
them to

stop.

All of which leads to a natural question: Why?

I think that in their country, they are like prisoners and they want
to feel free, said Niki Pirovolaki


Yeah, and an Arab country in one of the most socially
repressed areas of the world is just the place to do that.

Bob, JOOC, where do you get these little snippets of
nonsense from?

Sal




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Aug 25, 2008, at 5:03 PM, bob_brigante wrote:


WASHINGTON — Men and women agree that women are more honest,
intelligent, compassionate, outgoing and creative, according to a
survey out Monday. But men still get a significant edge as leaders —
and from both sexes.

The finding, in a survey commissioned by the Pew Research Center, may
help to explain why Hillary Clinton isn't making an acceptance speech
this week and why acceptance of women as leaders in politics and
business has been slow.


That's just an excuse the Clintonistas are floating to make
her loss more palatable.  Didn't stop her from becoming
Senator, twice.

The more people got to know her nationally, the more they
didn't trust her.  That's why she's not making an acceptance
speech, at least in part.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did you notice that Judy snipped the part about
 Hillary supporters acting like Bull Dykes pissed
 off that the little black guy knocked out their
 heroine without breaking a sweat?  :-)

Oh, yes!  We all noticed, Barry, we took notes and posted this 
incredibly important information in our diaries.

You see, we hang on every syllable, dotted i, and crossed t of 
your daily, never-ended war-of-words with Judy.

Say, did Judy REALLY snip the part about Hillary and the Bull Dykes?

Wow!

Can we all discuss this fascinating turn of events for the next month 
or so, please?  Judy snipped the part about the Bull Dykes!

And, say, did you all notice that Barry used the emoticon again?  
Let's discuss the how's and wherefore's of that amazing tidbit.

Get over yourself, Barry.  We are all bored silly with this crap.



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Entitlement Virus

2008-08-25 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 That's just an excuse the Clintonistas are floating to make
 her loss more palatable.  Didn't stop her from becoming
 Senator, twice.

 Sal

Did you book tickets to Scotland yet Sal ?




[FairfieldLife] on that savanaka note

2008-08-25 Thread alan.kuntz
I do regret my previous posting.It was shallow and distasteful and is 
plugged in every where on the internet.My sincere apologies and 
regret..Yes I do think enlightenment, evolution, transformation is a 
matter of grace.One can do transcendental meditation for eternity and 
never change or mature or evolve one bit so it seems for me..Sound 
direction patanjali yoga sutras and perhaps a respectable buddhist 
lineage of vipassana or zen. I am trading in my T.M for zazen 
shikantaza..No bullshit...Just sitting and just come back to this 
moment when I realize the mind has wandered..
Good luck to you all.
alan



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