Re: [FairfieldLife] Alex -- didja? (Re: Fw: Post Count? - Food Network!)

2009-03-28 Thread Kirk
Actually I cared for the personal touch. Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Alex Stanley" To: Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 11:28 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Alex -- didja? (Re: Fw: Post Count? - Food Network!) > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: >> >> Alex, >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 wrote: > > fwiw, in a future lifetime, possibly two or three from this one, Vaj and the > others on here with an antagonistic relationship to their TM experiences will > be great proponents of the technique. > I'm a very big fan of poet

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread enlightened_dawn11
fwiw, in a future lifetime, possibly two or three from this one, Vaj and the others on here with an antagonistic relationship to their TM experiences will be great proponents of the technique. but there is zero chance of it being this lifetime, so no point in trying to change their minds durin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Kyabje Pema Norbu Rinpoche 1932 - 2009

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
A great soul shall rest in peace. God bless him and all his good works.

[FairfieldLife] Kyabje Pema Norbu Rinpoche 1932 - 2009

2009-03-28 Thread Kirk
This information in this email is als posted here: http://www.palyul.org/emails/eng_news.htm Palyul Ling International Kyabjé Pema Norbu Rinpoche Enters Parinirvana Kyabje Pema N

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > It's as if someone were to say baseball was a flawed > version of cricket. Two different games. > LOL. O.K. Vaj, spill the beans when and where were you on TTC?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > I've learned a lot of variations on mantra concentration over the > years, from the TM "charm causes the mind to spontaneously > concentrate" idea to many other kinds. One of the problems I noticed > with very "slack" techniques like TM is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > Unless, you have actually practiced TM, and it doesn't > > > sound like you have, you're just pontificat

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > > > ---.Good; but as Charlie Lutes once said in jest, he asks the question as a > > challenge to those touting the benefits of "transcending" and at the same > > time placing wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > sparaig wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > >> Robert wrote: > >> > >>> It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for > >>> the checking, etc... > >>> Because unless we h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote: > > >> This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra repetition > >> where mantra continues continuously like a spontaneous thought > >> actually is ajapa-japa: no effort or smriti, jus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:45 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > >>> At one stage you are directing the mantra. This is not like any > >>> other thought. That was my point. > >>> > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-28 Thread Bhairitu
sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> Robert wrote: >> >>> It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for the >>> checking, etc... >>> Because unless we have the experience of transcending thought, then we can >>> think that r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Even the Dalai Lama's Office Targeted: NYT Vast Spy System Loots Computers in 103 Countries

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal wrote: > >> > >> Vast Spy System Loots Computers in 103 Countries > >> > >> If computers get too powerful we'll have to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > Unless, you have actually practiced TM, and it doesn't > > sound like you have, you're just pontificating about > > something you don't know anything about. I don't know > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > Unless, you have actually practiced TM, and it doesn't > sound like you have, you're just pontificating about > something you don't know anything about. I don't know > what meditation you practice, but I'd be surprised if > you've ever ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > Vaj, You haven't a clue about the practice of TM. > > Intersting opinion but WRONG. :-) > > > > >> > >> Really, in terms of the technical description of how TM is practiced > >> in the initial technique--it's not truly like 'any other th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Vaj wrote: This is not like any other thought. The level of mantra repetition where mantra continues continuously like a spontaneous thought actually is ajapa-japa: no effort or smriti, just constant ongoing awareness of mantra 24/7/365. WRONG. "When we become awa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 7:59 PM, raunchydog wrote: > > Vaj, You haven't a clue about the practice of TM. > > Intersting opinion but WRONG. :-) No, she's quite correct. God only knows where you came up with this stuff, but it has nothing to do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread Vaj
On Mar 28, 2009, at 8:45 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: At one stage you are directing the mantra. This is not like any other thought. That was my point. We seem to have different ideas about how things work I know all of these adva

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Even the Dalai Lama's Office Targeted: NYT Vast Spy System Loots Computers in 103 Countries

2009-03-28 Thread I am the eternal
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:52 PM, raunchydog wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal wrote: >> >> Vast Spy System Loots Computers in 103 Countries >> >> If computers get too powerful we'll have to disarm them by organizing >> them into a committee. >> >> http://www.nytimes.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Even the Dalai Lama's Office Targeted: NYT Vast Spy System Loots Computers in 103 Countries

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, I am the eternal wrote: > > Vast Spy System Loots Computers in 103 Countries > > If computers get too powerful we'll have to disarm them by organizing > them into a committee. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/technology/29spy.html > http://tinyurl.com/c

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread Vaj
On Mar 28, 2009, at 7:59 PM, raunchydog wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: This principle doesn't hold up all the way through the advanced techniques or the defunct Chopra technique. But in any case I've not met any

[FairfieldLife] Re: ! Transcend ! ye Sinners

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > > > ..ironies. I do not think any sane person could be immune to the > > > dichotomies involved in that. > > > > > > The operative phrase here being, "any sane person." Enough said. > > > > BTW Van Gogh just cut off the lobe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > At one stage you are directing the mantra. This is not like any other > > > thought. That was my point. > > > > > > > We seem to have different ideas about how

[FairfieldLife] Even the Dalai Lama's Office Targeted: NYT Vast Spy System Loots Computers in 103 Countries

2009-03-28 Thread I am the eternal
Vast Spy System Loots Computers in 103 Countries If computers get too powerful we'll have to disarm them by organizing them into a committee. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/29/technology/29spy.html http://tinyurl.com/cvt3t6 By JOHN MARKOFF Published: March 28, 2009 TORONTO — A vast electronic s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Post Count? - Food Network!

2009-03-28 Thread Kirk
Not yet, but thanks. Yes it was fun to try out for. We are potential one team out of thirty trying out for our city. - Original Message - From: "min.pige" To: Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Post Count? - Food Network! > >> > BTW, tomorrow I an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Roots of Religion: A Dialogue

2009-03-28 Thread grate . swan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > That was a fun read. However it is based on the bogus assumption that what > defines something as a religion is the accuracy of its claims rather than the > epistem

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread I am the eternal
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 4:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > I know all of these advanced techniques are on the web but I don't like to > piss people off unnecessarily by being more specific. I remember how people > into it feel about their secrets.  But I hope you get my point from that. Would y

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > At one stage you are directing the mantra. This is not like any other > > thought. That was my point. > > > > We seem to have different ideas about how things work > > I know all of these advanced techniques are on the web but I don

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > > >>> This principle doesn't hold up all the way through the advanced > > >>> techniques or the defunct Chopra

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Robert wrote: > > It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for the > > checking, etc... > > Because unless we have the experience of transcending thought, then we can > > think that repeating a mantra, or chantin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > >>> This principle doesn't hold up all the way through the advanced > >>> techniques or the defunct Chopra technique. But in any case I've > >>> not met any TMer who could rightful

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:01 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:00 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > >> > >>> Although Maharishi promotes the idea of coming back to the ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the > > understanding that thinking a mantra is no different > > than thinking any other thought. > > I'm not sure you can p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > Seems to me

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2009-03-28 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Mar 28 00:00:00 2009 End Date (UTC): Sat Apr 04 00:00:00 2009 173 messages as of (UTC) Sun Mar 29 00:05:47 2009 27 authfriend 20 curtisdeltablues 16 TurquoiseB 14 Robert 11 raunchydog 8 "grate.swan" 7 Arhata Osho

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-28 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero" wrote: > > ---.Good; but as Charlie Lutes once said in jest, he asks the question as a > challenge to those touting the benefits of "transcending" and at the same > time placing what they're talking about in the global context of things. > He ask

[FairfieldLife] Re: The third temple must be built before the second coming

2009-03-28 Thread yifuxero
---.Thx, Dome of the Rock (a Muslim Holy site) may be on top of the former "Holy of Holies" (or, giving credit to divergent archaeological opinions, is close it). In any event, the Muslims are not about to relinquish control of their Holy site. Never happen1 Either the prophecy is (a) wrong,

[FairfieldLife] Re: ! Transcend ! ye Sinners

2009-03-28 Thread dhamiltony2k5
> > ..ironies. I do not think any sane person could be immune to the > > dichotomies involved in that. > > > The operative phrase here being, "any sane person." Enough said. > > BTW Van Gogh just cut off the lobe > > of his ear not the whole thing. Remember that. > > I will file that tidbi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > >>> This principle doesn't hold up all the way through the advanced > >>> techniques or the defunct Chopra technique. But in any case I've > >>> not met any TMer who could rightful

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-28 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Robert wrote: > > It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for the > > checking, etc... > > Because unless we have the experience of transcending thought, then we can > > think that repeating a mantra, or chantin

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-28 Thread yifuxero
---.Good; but as Charlie Lutes once said in jest, he asks the question as a challenge to those touting the benefits of "transcending" and at the same time placing what they're talking about in the global context of things. He asked [to parapharase] "by "transcending"do you mean that your p

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-28 Thread Bhairitu
Robert wrote: > It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for the > checking, etc... > Because unless we have the experience of transcending thought, then we can > think that repeating a mantra, or chanting a mantra, is going to get you > there...but then you have missed

[FairfieldLife] 'Tm Allows One to Transcend Thought'

2009-03-28 Thread Robert
It is a delicate process to transcend thought...that is the reason for the checking, etc... Because unless we have the experience of transcending thought, then we can think that repeating a mantra, or chanting a mantra, is going to get you there...but then you have missed the point. The mantra s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > Really, in terms of the technical description of how > TM is practiced in the initial technique--it's not > truly like 'any other thought', as one is enjoined to > maintain mindfulness (or smriti to use the actual > technical term) both as the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the > > understanding that thinking a mantra is no different > > than thinking any other thought. > > I'm not sure you can p

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread Vaj
On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:24 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: This principle doesn't hold up all the way through the advanced techniques or the defunct Chopra technique. But in any case I've not met any TMer who could rightfully claim the kind of exposure to different meditaitons that would make th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread Vaj
On Mar 28, 2009, at 5:01 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:00 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: Although Maharishi promotes the idea of coming back to the mantra was his unique contribution, I'm not sure a broader study of the source docu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > Now, since I have been indulg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the > understanding that thinking a mantra is no different > than thinking any other thought. I'm not sure you can pick out any one specific point as his unique contribution. It was the way h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > Now, since I have been indulg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the understanding that > > > thinking a mantra i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the understanding that > > thinking a mantra is no different than thinking any other thought. > > > > Insomuch as mos

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > Seems to me that MMY's "unique contribution" is the understanding that > thinking a mantra is no different than thinking any other thought. > > Insomuch as most other meditation "techniques" seem to miss this point, > I'd say it is unique

RE: [FairfieldLife] Kirk is vindicated on cloud computing--Rick take note

2009-03-28 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of I am the eternal Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 12:56 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Kirk is vindicated on cloud computing--Rick take note Rick, if you're still using Mozy htt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Against scientific hubris (was Roots of Religion: A Dialogue)

2009-03-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > I'm not sure the poetic descriptions of this subatomic > > > level really effect our sens

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Now, since I have been indulging your ques- > > > tions, please indulge one of mine. Would you > > > h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Mar 28, 2009, at 12:00 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > Although Maharishi promotes the idea of coming back to the mantra > > was his unique contribution, I'm not sure a broader study of the > > source documents would support this. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Against scientific hubris (was Roots of Religion: A Dialogue)

2009-03-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" wrote: > Well I'm not sure Plato(Socrates) ever went so far as Edg's idea on > this (a bit of Advaita?). > > However the idea that Plato(Socrates)'s very puzzling notion of > "dialectic" is just a sort of down-to-earth secular rationalism does

[FairfieldLife] Re: When East Meets West

2009-03-28 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "elanghorus" wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" > wrote: > > > > Dude, Use/access your tool/option for Spelling/Grammar check/accuracy. > Your readers/audience would appreciate/thank you for it/your > consideration. > > > > Than

[FairfieldLife] Re: Against scientific hubris (was Roots of Religion: A Dialogue)

2009-03-28 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > I'm not sure the poetic descriptions of this subatomic > > level really effect our sensory level in a way that > > matters. I don't extrapolate that this is a m

[FairfieldLife] Anti-Depressant Drugs...One for TM???

2009-03-28 Thread Arhata Osho
If this video gives you anxiety, there's a solution!!! If TM doesn't work, there may be an answer for TM! http://www.cchr.org/#/videos/making-a-killing-introduction

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ten things that would make me become a TM TB again

2009-03-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > sparaig wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > >> Nothing because I have learned techniques since then that work much > >> better. TM is nothing more than "yoga lite." > >> > > > > Define "work bet

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Is Not A Religion Religion

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > Maharishi often invited questions. I never had a chance > > to ask him anything directly, but I do remember driving > > my SCI teacher, Tom Miller, crazy with questions t

[FairfieldLife] The third temple must be built before the second coming

2009-03-28 Thread jimjim5886
According to bible prophecy the third temple in Jerusalem must be built before the judgment. In order for that to happen there obviously must be a time of world peace first, especially between the Jews and the muslims. It is only after this that the anti-christ can and will commit the abomin

[FairfieldLife] Another artist "ahead of his time" - Richard Farina

2009-03-28 Thread TurquoiseB
As long as I'm on a nostalgia "dead musicians" music trip tonight (my time), allow me to wax rhapsodic about my first real hero, Richard Fariña. I first discovered Richard in his music, recorded with his wife, Mimi, sister of Joan Baez. I was so blown away that I ran out and bought his novel, "

[FairfieldLife] Re: Against scientific hubris (was Roots of Religion: A Dialogue)

2009-03-28 Thread Richard M
> > "Richard M" wrote: > * Socrates had it right: true knowledge is > knowing that you don't know. >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: >> >> But, hmmm, did Socrates mean it as you are interpreting? Or did he >> say: >> "Knowing can happen, but the one who knows is not

[FairfieldLife] Re: What's Happening To America ?

2009-03-28 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Barbara Thomas wrote: > > Has anyone else noticed that things have not been the > > same since the terrorist attack on September 11, > > 2001? - - we've experienced catastrophic disasters > > from floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and fires fro

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Is Not A Religion Religion

2009-03-28 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > Maharishi often invited questions. I never had a chance > > to ask him anything directly, but I do remember driving > > my SCI teacher, Tom Miller, crazy with questions t

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Is Not A Religion Religion

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > Maharishi often invited questions. I never had a chance > to ask him anything directly, but I do remember driving > my SCI teacher, Tom Miller, crazy with questions to the > point of detecting, occasionally, a slight sputter of > frustra

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Is Not A Religion Religion

2009-03-28 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > TM is a delicate practice of innocence. If doubt > > festers about one's practice, a bottomless pit of > > questions escalates anger and destroys innocence. > > Raunch

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Is Not A Religion Religion

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > In all compassion -- really -- I think > that Judy's stance is as old as the "con > game" and as understandable. It's how the > "con game" WORKS, and why it's *always* > worked. > > PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CONNED > DON'T WANT TO ADMIT IT,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Against scientific hubris (was Roots of Religion: A Dialogue)

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > I'm not sure the poetic descriptions of this subatomic > level really effect our sensory level in a way that > matters. I don't extrapolate that this is a macro > phenomenon or that the uncertainty principle really > concludes wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tim and Jeff

2009-03-28 Thread TurquoiseB
Just in case I wasn't emphatic enough in my recommendation :-), Rolling Stone also ranked Gram at him #87 on their list of the 100 Most Influential Artists of All Time. And if that's not enough, Turq ranks his version of Roy Orbison's "Love Hurts" on that album as one of the Top Ten Songs In Po

Re: [FairfieldLife] Kirk is vindicated on cloud computing--Rick take note

2009-03-28 Thread Bhairitu
Can't wait to hear Leo LaPorte's show tomorrow. He's been a big promoter of Carbonite. Since one can buy terrabyte drives in external inclosures for around $100 just use those and do image backups. I can do two machines on mine and still have room for incidental backups. Just keep the driv

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > I called you out on using an ad hominem argument > > > in our last discussion > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's Happening To America ?

2009-03-28 Thread Bhairitu
Barbara Thomas wrote: > Has anyone else noticed that things have not been the > same since the terrorist attack on September 11, > 2001? - - we've experienced catastrophic disasters > from floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and fires from > drought, etc. on a scale never known before in all of > history

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoog

[FairfieldLife] Re: Against scientific hubris (was Roots of Religion: A Dialogue)

2009-03-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard M" wrote: Excellent, thanks! This is why I didn't continue on in philosophy! The "problems" that philosophical theorists have with knowledge don't have much to do with my personal epistemological approach. If you approach epistemology including t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Against scientific hubris (was Roots of Religion: A Dialogue)

2009-03-28 Thread grate . swan
Absolute knowledge, absolute knowing, seems a pipe dream. What is of some practical importance is "does it (anything) work here and now". Lots of things work, for many purposes, but may not always work. It works until it doesn't. How many white swans do you need to see until you can conclude a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tim and Jeff

2009-03-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, grate.swan wrote: > > > > I was listening to Dolphin when I read your post. > > > > Sometimes I think about Saturday's child > > And all about the times when we were running wild > > I've been out s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > I called you out on using an ad hominem argument > > in our last discussion > > It wasn't an "argument," it was an observation. > When I first made it, you reac

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: Would you have any objections to attendees at the up- coming McCartney concert being handed a flyer containing only the English translation of the TM puja -- no commentary, only a sim- ple explanation that this was a translation of the cer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Against scientific hubris (was Roots of Religion: A Dialogue)

2009-03-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > "Richard M" wrote: > * Socrates had it right: true knowledge is > knowing that you don't know. > > But, hmmm, did Socrates mean it as you are interpreting? Or did he say: > "Knowing can happen, but the one who knows is not you." That i

[FairfieldLife] Re: Republicans Grooming Jindal for Presidential Candidacy?

2009-03-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > Bob, > > Thanks for the link. We are now edified as to the history of Jefferson. > > JR This is John's way of saying, "Ooops...I said that Jefferson was considered the guru or rishi of the Republican Party when in fact he was the founde

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Arhata Osho wrote: > > Checks in the envelope . . where to mail it! T To me of course, I'll make sure he gets it! I'll cash it in my bank and write a check on my own account, then drop the check into the Ganges to follow his ashes! > > > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Against scientific hubris (was Roots of Religion: A Dialogue)

2009-03-28 Thread Duveyoung
"Richard M" wrote: > * Socrates had it right: true knowledge is knowing that you don't know. But, hmmm, did Socrates mean it as you are interpreting? Or did he say: "Knowing can happen, but the one who knows is not you." That is: "I'm not the thinker of 'my' thoughts." I ask, because if, say,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoog

[FairfieldLife] China Converting to Christianity

2009-03-28 Thread Arhata Osho
Hmmm - could be worse! Of course I'm not referring to Islam!   One billion souls to save - Times Online* http://ww

[FairfieldLife] Alex -- didja? (Re: Fw: Post Count? - Food Network!)

2009-03-28 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > I almost did post "hey Kirk you're gunna go over" but Alex did > that before I could, so there was no need for a second opinion > as I saw it. My tough love says it's okay to warn about dog shit, > but to take a person's right to post-and-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Republicans Grooming Jindal for Presidential Candidacy?

2009-03-28 Thread John
Bob, Thanks for the link. We are now edified as to the history of Jefferson. JR --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > Jefferson is considered the guru or rishi of the Republican party. > > > *** > > ht

[FairfieldLife] Everything is Amazing, Nobody is Happy!

2009-03-28 Thread Arhata Osho
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=LoGYx35ypus http://www.freedomofspeech.netfirms.com/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread Arhata Osho
Checks in the envelope . . where to mail it! --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Arhata Osho wrote: > > Outsiders have no clue what TM means let alone the infinite amount of > meditations> available.  Take a poll of 'meditators' (including Yoga people), > and

[FairfieldLife] Bush Lawyers Targeted in Spain

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
Bush Torture Lawyers Targeted in Criminal Probe By Scott Horton One of America's NATO allies—which supported the Bush Administration's war on terror by committing its troops to the struggle–has now opened formal criminal inquiries looking into the Bush team's legacy of torture. The action para

Re: [FairfieldLife] What's Happening To America ?

2009-03-28 Thread Arhata Osho
Yes. Has anyone else noticed that things have not been the same since the terrorist attack on September 11, 2001? - - we've experienced catastrophic disasters from floods, tornadoes, hurricanes and fires from drought, etc. on a scale never known before in all of history. Not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > I called you out on using an ad hominem argument > in our last discussion It wasn't an "argument," it was an observation. When I first made it, you reacted badly, so I dropped it. Then just recently, as I noted earlier today, you

[FairfieldLife] Against scientific hubris (was Roots of Religion: A Dialogue)

2009-03-28 Thread Richard M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > Would you care to spell out some of your understanding of the > issues concerning science and religious distinctions? I > would be interested. Oh gawd. Well this subject does interest me a lot! But it's very much a minority

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools

2009-03-28 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > But there's *no

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