[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Robin Carlsen]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> > > > 
> > > > She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and 
> > > > soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver 
> > > > for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a 
> > > > tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?
> > > 
> > > Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* 
> > > reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into
> > > Judith Bourque and a number of other women.
> > > 
> > > If you're looking for a "tortured soul," it seems
> > > to me that it would be the person who did this while 
> > > claiming to be celibate.
> > 
> > If MMY 'the great pretender' only nailed a couple of broads in his lifetime 
> > with all that money and power, he was a pretty poor Don Juan, don't cha 
> > think? ;-)
> > 
> > Come on Turq, you know you and I would be nailing them all and probably 
> > have a harem to boot!
> > 
> > That's a silly comment. He "nailed" quite a few, but he couldn't exactly go 
> > hog wild and yet retain secrecy. It's amazing he was able to keep it as 
> > secret as he did. I believe that may be why he placed such emphasis on 
> > secrecy and confidentiality in general. Those in positions of authority 
> > knew things on a need to know basis. Neil Paterson wouldn't tell you what 
> > brand of toothpaste he used.
> > 
> > RESPONSE: I think this comment by Rich to be apposite--and holding within 
> > itself a level of sophistication that begins to go to what the reality is. 
> > I have never had that thought: "I believe that may be why he placed such 
> > emphasis on secrecy and confidentiality in general". It seems it could be 
> > true.
> > 
> > For myself, I think there are a number of things  to think about if one 
> > assumes the veracity of  Judy Bourque's testimony (corroborated most 
> > unforgettable in Robert McCutcheon's "Afterword and Witness Testimonial"):
> > 
> > 1. Maharishi either did not care to preserve his integrity in this way, and 
> > therefore does not have a conscience, or else he was unable to control his 
> > carnal desires, and surrendered himself up to his concupiscence 
> > involuntarily, as it were. Judith was, after all, a beautiful woman: she 
> > certainly would put his enlightenment to the test (in this way, 
> > enlightenment--Maharishi's at least--requires some vow of celibacy, which 
> > presumably Maharishi gave in the course of his commitment to Swami 
> > Brahmananda Saraswati).
> > 
> > 2. Were TM to be what Maharishi claimed it to be:--Nature's way of coming 
> > to know the Unified Field, Nature's way of knowing the final truth about 
> > nature, Nature's way of fulfilling one full potential as a human 
> > being--*Nature would never allow the exponent, the personal embodiment, of 
> > this truth to be compromised in this way*. Nature would have supported 
> > Maharishi's celibacy. The fact that Nature did not do this, tells us 
> > everything we need to know about the finality of Nature's commitment to the 
> > truth of TM, since guarding the reputation of Maharishi in this way would  
> > have been a sine qua non. And, as well, what Nature ['Nature' here 
> > designates the source of truth, the source of 'creative intelligence', the 
> > ultimate arbiter of what is real] really thought of Maharishi is revealed 
> > in allowing Maharishi to disgrace himself in this way. That is, not in the 
> > act of having a physical relationship with Judith Bourque, but in his 
> > implicit presentation of himself as someone incapable of succumbing to the 
> > insistence of his erotic feelings.
> > 
> > 3. Maharishi must have known somehow that the truth would eventually come 
> > out about him. He did nothing to prepare his disciples, or his successor, 
> > for this scandal, a scandal who reverberations would never cease, because 
> > of how impressive and beautiful and believable Maharishi was in terms of 
> > radiating out from himself the truth of his very Teaching. Imagine, had 
> > someone posed theoretically the questions to him: Maharishi, what would 
> > should a disciple of a Master do or feel if that Master, who was sworn--one 
> > must believe, happily so--to celibacy, violates that vow and demonstrates 
> > by doing so that he is a prisoner of something other than his own pure 
> > consciousness?" Maharishi was never able to compute the inevitably 
> > consequences of his having indulged--however sincerely at the level of 
> > romance--his carnal desires in this way. What Rich brings out attention to 
> > seems to offe

[FairfieldLife] 'Timelines by Zeta'

[Robert]

 
 

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We are in an amazing time filled with new potentials that offer each person the 
possibility to experience their highest visions and gift the world with amazing 
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The key to living along timelines where our highest and best exists is to unite 
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history of our soul. Cultivating inner oneness allows us to do all this and 
more.
The greatest challenges we face are those that arise from a state of inner 
separation. This is what happens when we choose to see ourselves solely as a 
physical being. When we limit our experience to only that which we can observe 
with our physical senses, we cut ourselves off from a great amount of the 
assistance we would otherwise receive from our energetic self. It is through 
the union of our physical and energetic selves that we're able to access 
fifth-dimensional timelines aligned with our highest visions and dreams.
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We have a physical body we're able to observe through our five senses. Working 
in conjunction with the physical level is our energetic body which exists 
beyond the physical. Our energetic self is not confined to the boundaries of 
time and space. It is able to ride waves of energy and pick up the vibration of 
realities crystalyzing in our near future. Our energy body can access portals 
and time openings, receive and send information to and from the vast libraries 
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in various ways, including dream states and deep levels of meditation. As we 
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this way, we're able to bring about healing and regeneration of our physical 
system. Universal knowledge accessed by our energetic self helps us heal 
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[FairfieldLife] Clint endorses the Mittiot

[Bhairitu]

Thinks the country needs "a boost"? More likely if the Mittiot wins it 
will be goosed or cooked goose.
http://news.yahoo.com/clint-eastwood-endorsing-romneys-presidential-bid-234505229.html

So much for Clint CI.

Helena Handbasket is sure busy these days.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[Share Long]

Good God Gabby!  That smile on her face at the end!  That total being in the 
zone.  Goose bumps just watching her.  The sound of the crowd clapping.  The 
unity of it all.  Wow and wow and wow and wow

I remember some moments of total being in the zone when I played softball.  
Yeah, God in the body...

thanks RC for posting  




 From: Robin Carlsen 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 6:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> > 
> > Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous Dutch 
> > horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
> >
> 
> Here ya go, Ann. NBC has videos of many events as well as live streaming. 
> Hester is masterful, Uthopia is a gorgeous horse from head to tail.
> http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/equestrian/highlights-carl-hesters-individual-dressage-ride.html
> 
> I'm on vacation in Michigan, just north of Oscoda on Lake Huron, haven't 
> posted much. I've been taking long walks on the shore, toes in sugar sand, 
> enjoying a nice breeze coming off the lake, just relaxing and visiting 
> family. In the evening I've had eyes glued to the Olympics, women's 
> gymnastics, swimming and beach volleyball. 
> 
> All glory to gymnast, Gabby Douglas! Fabulous! Only 4'11, just a little bit 
> of a thing, but, oh what a powerhouse. She won gold for Women's All Round. 
> Number one and best in the world. Gabby trains in West Des Moines, Iowa. My 
> granddaughter, a budding gymnast, love-love-loves her! 
> 
> Here's Gabby's winning Floor Exercise:  
> http://www.nbcolympics.com/wthr/video/gymnastics/highlight-gabby-douglas-floor-exercise-in-all-around-final.html
>  
> 
> The precision and years of training required of a gymnast is every bit as 
> demanding as it is for dressage, both exquisitely beautiful and thrilling to 
> watch.

Dear Raunchydog,

So glad there is some FFL poster who is watching the Olympics and saw the 
glorious performance of the irreisistible and celestially bouncing Gabby 
Douglas--what a beautiful creature she is. There is no form of athletics which 
asks so much as does gymnastics does--not even the Decathlon.

I like that someone in the world felt the sensations that I did in watching 
Gabby's individual performance--and would communicate this on FFL.

Does this mean that your granddaughter knows and trains in the same facility as 
does Gabby Douglas?

Well, I will remember you tonight, Raunchydog, when I watch the NBC coverage. 
Bob Costas, the Jesus Christ of sports announcers, I figure. But all the NBC 
colour commentators--for swimming, for gymnastics, for volleyball--they are all 
superb.

We might, here on FFL, have the basis of a water polo team--you know: all that 
blood in the water left after the Hungary and Soviet Union match in 1956.

But Share refuses to pull anyone under the water and smash at them with her 
fists. The rest of us know the rules of water polo and play the game as hard as 
it has to be played here in the FFL pool.

To be an Olympian, might be the best experience anyone can have of physical 
achievement--and something well beyond that.. Did you see those US women eights 
row to victory yesterday?

The Olympics in London, there has never been anything like it. And the 
highlight for me is the performance of the US Fab Five--and Gabby especially.

Enough. Enjoy Lake Huron.

Robin


 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> > > 
> > > She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and 
> > > soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver 
> > > for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a 
> > > tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?
> > 
> > Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* 
> > reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into
> > Judith Bourque and a number of other women.
> > 
> > If you're looking for a "tortured soul," it seems
> > to me that it would be the person who did this while 
> > claiming to be celibate.
> 
> If MMY 'the great pretender' only nailed a couple of broads in his lifetime 
> with all that money and power, he was a pretty poor Don Juan, don't cha 
> think? ;-)
> 
> Come on Turq, you know you and I would be nailing them all and probably have 
> a harem to boot!
> 
> That's a silly comment. He "nailed" quite a few, but he couldn't exactly go 
> hog wild and yet retain secrecy. It's amazing he was able to keep it as 
> secret as he did. I believe that may be why he placed such emphasis on 
> secrecy and confidentiality in general. Those in positions of authority knew 
> things on a need to know basis. Neil Paterson wouldn't tell you what brand of 
> toothpaste he used.
> 
> RESPONSE: I think this comment by Rich to be apposite--and holding within 
> itself a level of sophistication that begins to go to what the reality is. I 
> have never had that thought: "I believe that may be why he placed such 
> emphasis on secrecy and confidentiality in general". It seems it could be 
> true.
> 
> For myself, I think there are a number of things  to think about if one 
> assumes the veracity of  Judy Bourque's testimony (corroborated most 
> unforgettable in Robert McCutcheon's "Afterword and Witness Testimonial"):
> 
> 1. Maharishi either did not care to preserve his integrity in this way, and 
> therefore does not have a conscience, or else he was unable to control his 
> carnal desires, and surrendered himself up to his concupiscence 
> involuntarily, as it were. Judith was, after all, a beautiful woman: she 
> certainly would put his enlightenment to the test (in this way, 
> enlightenment--Maharishi's at least--requires some vow of celibacy, which 
> presumably Maharishi gave in the course of his commitment to Swami 
> Brahmananda Saraswati).
> 
> 2. Were TM to be what Maharishi claimed it to be:--Nature's way of coming to 
> know the Unified Field, Nature's way of knowing the final truth about nature, 
> Nature's way of fulfilling one full potential as a human being--*Nature would 
> never allow the exponent, the personal embodiment, of this truth to be 
> compromised in this way*. Nature would have supported Maharishi's celibacy. 
> The fact that Nature did not do this, tells us everything we need to know 
> about the finality of Nature's commitment to the truth of TM, since guarding 
> the reputation of Maharishi in this way would  have been a sine qua non. And, 
> as well, what Nature ['Nature' here designates the source of truth, the 
> source of 'creative intelligence', the ultimate arbiter of what is real] 
> really thought of Maharishi is revealed in allowing Maharishi to disgrace 
> himself in this way. That is, not in the act of having a physical 
> relationship with Judith Bourque, but in his implicit presentation of himself 
> as someone incapable of succumbing to the insistence of his erotic feelings.
> 
> 3. Maharishi must have known somehow that the truth would eventually come out 
> about him. He did nothing to prepare his disciples, or his successor, for 
> this scandal, a scandal who reverberations would never cease, because of how 
> impressive and beautiful and believable Maharishi was in terms of radiating 
> out from himself the truth of his very Teaching. Imagine, had someone posed 
> theoretically the questions to him: Maharishi, what would should a disciple 
> of a Master do or feel if that Master, who was sworn--one must believe, 
> happily so--to celibacy, violates that vow and demonstrates by doing so that 
> he is a prisoner of something other than his own pure consciousness?" 
> Maharishi was never able to compute the inevitably consequences of his having 
> indulged--however sincerely at the level of romance--his carnal desires in 
> this way. What Rich brings out attention to seems to offer up an answer to 
> this: Maharishi thought he, as it were, could behave in a way which would 
> metaphysically somehow keep the universe itself from divulging the truth 
> about his inability or unwillingness to live out the truth which h

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 6:03 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
"Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

 

  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer"  wrote:

> 
> 
> Dear Rick,
> 
> Had it not been for what you said about Maharishi and secrecy, I doubt I
> would have posted anything about this matter. But something alerted in me
> when I read your comment.
> 
> I think it was the toothpaste. :-)
> 
> You will see that I have added a ninth reflection, for me, the most
> important one of all.
> 
> The only way anything can change here is if either Bevan or someone else
can
> communicate to us something about Maharishi which somehow is inclusive of
> his behaviour with women--women, that is, who caused him to feel intense
> physical desire.
> 
> Perhaps with Bevan (or this other person) such a portrait of Maharishi can
> emerge. But that would mean writing a book--it is I believe a book that
> Bevan's soul desperately would want him to write, but Bevan, he is likely
to
> deny to his soul this satisfaction.
> 
> Robin
> 
> Bevan was as guilty of such behavior as MMY was. I doubt any such book
will
> be forthcoming.

But surely not the oh so spotless Mr. Rick Archer, no Sir !

I had a stumble or two.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Robin Carlsen]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> > 
> > She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and 
> > soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver 
> > for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a 
> > tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?
> 
> Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* 
> reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into
> Judith Bourque and a number of other women.
> 
> If you're looking for a "tortured soul," it seems
> to me that it would be the person who did this while 
> claiming to be celibate.

If MMY 'the great pretender' only nailed a couple of broads in his lifetime 
with all that money and power, he was a pretty poor Don Juan, don't cha think? 
;-)

Come on Turq, you know you and I would be nailing them all and probably have a 
harem to boot!

That's a silly comment. He "nailed" quite a few, but he couldn't exactly go hog 
wild and yet retain secrecy. It's amazing he was able to keep it as secret as 
he did. I believe that may be why he placed such emphasis on secrecy and 
confidentiality in general. Those in positions of authority knew things on a 
need to know basis. Neil Paterson wouldn't tell you what brand of toothpaste he 
used.

RESPONSE: I think this comment by Rich to be apposite--and holding within 
itself a level of sophistication that begins to go to what the reality is. I 
have never had that thought: "I believe that may be why he placed such emphasis 
on secrecy and confidentiality in general". It seems it could be true.

For myself, I think there are a number of things  to think about if one assumes 
the veracity of  Judy Bourque's testimony (corroborated most unforgettable in 
Robert McCutcheon's "Afterword and Witness Testimonial"):

1. Maharishi either did not care to preserve his integrity in this way, and 
therefore does not have a conscience, or else he was unable to control his 
carnal desires, and surrendered himself up to his concupiscence involuntarily, 
as it were. Judith was, after all, a beautiful woman: she certainly would put 
his enlightenment to the test (in this way, enlightenment--Maharishi's at 
least--requires some vow of celibacy, which presumably Maharishi gave in the 
course of his commitment to Swami Brahmananda Saraswati).

2. Were TM to be what Maharishi claimed it to be:--Nature's way of coming to 
know the Unified Field, Nature's way of knowing the final truth about nature, 
Nature's way of fulfilling one full potential as a human being--*Nature would 
never allow the exponent, the personal embodiment, of this truth to be 
compromised in this way*. Nature would have supported Maharishi's celibacy. The 
fact that Nature did not do this, tells us everything we need to know about the 
finality of Nature's commitment to the truth of TM, since guarding the 
reputation of Maharishi in this way would  have been a sine qua non. And, as 
well, what Nature ['Nature' here designates the source of truth, the source of 
'creative intelligence', the ultimate arbiter of what is real] really thought 
of Maharishi is revealed in allowing Maharishi to disgrace himself in this way. 
That is, not in the act of having a physical relationship with Judith Bourque, 
but in his implicit presentation of himself as someone incapable of succumbing 
to the insistence of his erotic feelings.

3. Maharishi must have known somehow that the truth would eventually come out 
about him. He did nothing to prepare his disciples, or his successor, for this 
scandal, a scandal who reverberations would never cease, because of how 
impressive and beautiful and believable Maharishi was in terms of radiating out 
from himself the truth of his very Teaching. Imagine, had someone posed 
theoretically the questions to him: Maharishi, what would should a disciple of 
a Master do or feel if that Master, who was sworn--one must believe, happily 
so--to celibacy, violates that vow and demonstrates by doing so that he is a 
prisoner of something other than his own pure consciousness?" Maharishi was 
never able to compute the inevitably consequences of his having 
indulged--however sincerely at the level of romance--his carnal desires in this 
way. What Rich brings out attention to seems to offer up an answer to this: 
Maharishi thought he, as it were, could behave in a way which would 
metaphysically somehow keep the universe itself from divulging the truth about 
his inability or unwillingness to live out the truth which he so powerfully and 
explicitly imposed upon those who were most devoted to him.

4. The extent to which none of us at the time (early to mid seventies) could 
possibly come to believe Maharishi did what Judith Bourque has told us he did, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[stevelf]

precisely-- thank you, Robin-- your words mirror my endeavor, also...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of Robin Carlsen
> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:39 PM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > Dear Rick,
> > 
> > Had it not been for what you said about Maharishi and secrecy, I doubt I
> > would have posted anything about this matter. But something alerted in me
> > when I read your comment.
> > 
> > I think it was the toothpaste. :-)
> > 
> > You will see that I have added a ninth reflection, for me, the most
> > important one of all.
> > 
> > The only way anything can change here is if either Bevan or someone else can
> > communicate to us something about Maharishi which somehow is inclusive of
> > his behaviour with women--women, that is, who caused him to feel intense
> > physical desire.
> > 
> > Perhaps with Bevan (or this other person) such a portrait of Maharishi can
> > emerge. But that would mean writing a book--it is I believe a book that
> > Bevan's soul desperately would want him to write, but Bevan, he is likely to
> > deny to his soul this satisfaction.
> > 
> > Robin
> > 
> > Bevan was as guilty of such behavior as MMY was. I doubt any such book will
> > be forthcoming.
> 
> Dear Rick,
> 
> That is not something I know anything about, and it surprises me. Bevan 
> always seemed to me to be a highly principled person. I do think, however, I 
> know of someone who was close to Maharishi who was the only naturally 
> celibate initiator I have ever known--and I think, moreover, his communion 
> with Maharishi was like no one else's. He made teaching TM and being a 
> disciple of Maharishi seem a very pure and irreproachable profession. He 
> always carried the authority of his perfect surrender to Maharishi, and he 
> himself found a dharma which was almost critic-proof.
> 
> I think even women always felt the flawlessness of his celibacy and therefore 
> were comfortable around him for this very reason. But the real point I am 
> trying to make here, Rick, is this person *knew Maharishi the man* as well as 
> Maharishi the Master. And I felt that Maharishi made himself known in this 
> way only to this person. Therefore this person, and this person only, really 
> has the credentials to tell us all about Maharishi the man, the human being. 
> For this person was objective about Maharishi, else he could not have 
> delivered such a serene performance in every second (or so it seemed to me) 
> that he served Maharishi. I don't think even after Maharishi's death was this 
> relationship severed.
> 
> But he carried something so enigmatic in his deportment and person, that I 
> hardly feel I know him even as I know you, whom I have never even met. But 
> this person, I wish he would write a book about Maharishi, because his 
> relationship with Maharishi was totally real--both from the side of Maharishi 
> and from his own side.
> 
> He never pretended anything; he just remained attuned to Maharishi--in all 
> his aspects. And he was totally believable in this. He was faultless in his 
> devotion to an apparently faulty human being; but this person had this 
> advantage: he saw how profound a person Maharishi was, and how the entire 
> universe was willing to demonstrate how significant a being Maharishi was. 
> And that is the story about Maharishi, Rick--at least it is for me. To be 
> able to see Maharishi as he really was, including what Judith Bourque reveals 
> in her book, requires also to see him as a truly cosmic being. This person I 
> speak of he always could see that Maharishi was like no human being of our 
> lifetime; he saw his spiritual integrity, no matter how it was compromised in 
> his actions as a human being. And what this person apprehended, it was 
> powerful and ineffable.
> 
> I would trust his account of Maharishi, and no one else's. Until then we only 
> get the polarized and psychologically determined portraits--only in this 
> person exists a paradigm that potentially can address the contradiction of 
> Maharishi.
> 
> I will neither confirm or deny any candidates that you might feel tempted to 
> put before me. I cannot do this. I respect this person's integrity too much, 
> although it is a form of integrity which is outside the range of my own human 
> possibilities. One thing I would say: Maharishi respected and loved this 
> initiator more than anyone else. But only Maharishi and this person could 
> know this.
> 
> What I seek, Rick, is some reconciliation of these antinomies in Maharishi. 
> Only in this way can we ever obtain a proper estimate of him inside the 
> universe. I have my reservations about hi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[Robin Carlsen]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> > 
> > Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous Dutch 
> > horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
> >
> 
> Here ya go, Ann. NBC has videos of many events as well as live streaming. 
> Hester is masterful, Uthopia is a gorgeous horse from head to tail.
> http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/equestrian/highlights-carl-hesters-individual-dressage-ride.html
> 
> I'm on vacation in Michigan, just north of Oscoda on Lake Huron, haven't 
> posted much. I've been taking long walks on the shore, toes in sugar sand, 
> enjoying a nice breeze coming off the lake, just relaxing and visiting 
> family. In the evening I've had eyes glued to the Olympics, women's 
> gymnastics, swimming and beach volleyball. 
> 
> All glory to gymnast, Gabby Douglas! Fabulous! Only 4'11, just a little bit 
> of a thing, but, oh what a powerhouse. She won gold for Women's All Round. 
> Number one and best in the world. Gabby trains in West Des Moines, Iowa. My 
> granddaughter, a budding gymnast, love-love-loves her! 
> 
> Here's Gabby's winning Floor Exercise:  
> http://www.nbcolympics.com/wthr/video/gymnastics/highlight-gabby-douglas-floor-exercise-in-all-around-final.html
>  
> 
> The precision and years of training required of a gymnast is every bit as 
> demanding as it is for dressage, both exquisitely beautiful and thrilling to 
> watch.

Dear Raunchydog,

So glad there is some FFL poster who is watching the Olympics and saw the 
glorious performance of the irreisistible and celestially bouncing Gabby 
Douglas--what a beautiful creature she is. There is no form of athletics which 
asks so much as does gymnastics does--not even the Decathlon.

I like that someone in the world felt the sensations that I did in watching 
Gabby's individual performance--and would communicate this on FFL.

Does this mean that your granddaughter knows and trains in the same facility as 
does Gabby Douglas?

Well, I will remember you tonight, Raunchydog, when I watch the NBC coverage. 
Bob Costas, the Jesus Christ of sports announcers, I figure. But all the NBC 
colour commentators--for swimming, for gymnastics, for volleyball--they are all 
superb.

We might, here on FFL, have the basis of a water polo team--you know: all that 
blood in the water left after the Hungary and Soviet Union match in 1956.

But Share refuses to pull anyone under the water and smash at them with her 
fists. The rest of us know the rules of water polo and play the game as hard as 
it has to be played here in the FFL pool.

To be an Olympian, might be the best experience anyone can have of physical 
achievement--and something well beyond that.. Did you see those US women eights 
row to victory yesterday?

The Olympics in London, there has never been anything like it. And the 
highlight for me is the performance of the US Fab Five--and Gabby especially.

Enough. Enjoy Lake Huron.

Robin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[azgrey]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:

> 
> I'm still trying to figure out what the yonified field is? ;-)
>

I bet you are, Billy. I bet you *are*.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:

>   
> 
> Dear Rick,
> 
> Had it not been for what you said about Maharishi and secrecy, I doubt I
> would have posted anything about this matter. But something alerted in me
> when I read your comment.
> 
> I think it was the toothpaste. :-)
> 
> You will see that I have added a ninth reflection, for me, the most
> important one of all.
> 
> The only way anything can change here is if either Bevan or someone else can
> communicate to us something about Maharishi which somehow is inclusive of
> his behaviour with women--women, that is, who caused him to feel intense
> physical desire.
> 
> Perhaps with Bevan (or this other person) such a portrait of Maharishi can
> emerge. But that would mean writing a book--it is I believe a book that
> Bevan's soul desperately would want him to write, but Bevan, he is likely to
> deny to his soul this satisfaction.
> 
> Robin
> 
> Bevan was as guilty of such behavior as MMY was. I doubt any such book will
> be forthcoming.


But surely not the oh so spotless Mr. Rick Archer, no Sir !

Re: [FairfieldLife] Why Do Ex-Porn Stars Support Romney?

[Bhairitu]

On 08/03/2012 02:01 PM, John wrote:
> Here's what one of them says:
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/retired-porn-star-jenna-jameson-says-she-supports-143703925.html
>
>

One wonders how many porn stars practice TM? ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:

 
> Robin, do you believe the story from that lady to be the truthful ?

So Judith, was the MMY into 'mission style' or did he like 'doggie style'?, 
come on, Enquiring minds want to know. Did you engage in cunnilingus at any 
time? Did MMY's beard ever get caught in your mouth, how did that work out? 
Yuck! Spit it out girl!! or is it all in your mind?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[awoelflebater]

Thanks so much Raunchy, unfortunately in Canada I can't see it but others in 
the States can. Anyone who loves power, balance, grace, harmony and 
non-prissiness will love Carl's ride on day 1 in the Grand Prix here that 
Raunchy kindly posted. Now THAT is a horse, balls and all.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> > 
> > Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous Dutch 
> > horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
> >
> 
> Here ya go, Ann. NBC has videos of many events as well as live streaming. 
> Hester is masterful, Uthopia is a gorgeous horse from head to tail.
> http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/equestrian/highlights-carl-hesters-individual-dressage-ride.html
> 
> I'm on vacation in Michigan, just north of Oscoda on Lake Huron, haven't 
> posted much. I've been taking long walks on the shore, toes in sugar sand, 
> enjoying a nice breeze coming off the lake, just relaxing and visiting 
> family. In the evening I've had eyes glued to the Olympics, women's 
> gymnastics, swimming and beach volleyball. 
> 
> All glory to gymnast, Gabby Douglas! Fabulous! Only 4'11, just a little bit 
> of a thing, but, oh what a powerhouse. She won gold for Women's All Round. 
> Number one and best in the world. Gabby trains in West Des Moines, Iowa. My 
> granddaughter, a budding gymnast, love-love-loves her! 
> 
> Here's Gabby's winning Floor Exercise:  
> http://www.nbcolympics.com/wthr/video/gymnastics/highlight-gabby-douglas-floor-exercise-in-all-around-final.html
>  
> 
> The precision and years of training required of a gymnast is every bit as 
> demanding as it is for dressage, both exquisitely beautiful and thrilling to 
> watch.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> > > 
> > > She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and 
> > > soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver 
> > > for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a 
> > > tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?
> > 
> > Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* 
> > reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into
> > Judith Bourque and a number of other women.
> > 
> > If you're looking for a "tortured soul," it seems
> > to me that it would be the person who did this while 
> > claiming to be celibate.
> 
> If MMY 'the great pretender' only nailed a couple of broads in his lifetime 
> with all that money and power, he was a pretty poor Don Juan, don't cha 
> think? ;-)
> 
> Come on Turq, you know you and I would be nailing them all and probably have 
> a harem to boot!
> 
> That's a silly comment. He "nailed" quite a few, but he couldn't exactly go 
> hog wild and yet retain secrecy. It's amazing he was able to keep it as 
> secret as he did. I believe that may be why he placed such emphasis on 
> secrecy and confidentiality in general. Those in positions of authority knew 
> things on a need to know basis. Neil Paterson wouldn't tell you what brand of 
> toothpaste he used.
> 
> RESPONSE: I think this comment by Rick to be apposite--and holding within 
> itself a level of sophistication that begins to go to what the reality is. I 
> have never had that thought: "I believe that may be why he [Maharishi] placed 
> such emphasis on secrecy and confidentiality in general". It seems it could 
> be true.
> 
> For myself, I think there are a number of things  to think about if one 
> assumes the veracity of Judy Bourque's testimony (corroborated most 
> unforgettably in Robert McCutcheon's "Afterword and Witness Testimonial"):
> 
> 1. Maharishi either did not care to preserve his integrity in this way [that 
> is, match his private life with his declared public persona--not caring about 
> the consequences of this], and therefore does not have a conscience, or else 
> he was unable to control his carnal desires, and surrendered himself up to 
> his concupiscence involuntarily, as it were. Judith was, after all, a 
> beautiful young woman: she certainly would put his enlightenment to the test 
> (in this way, enlightenment--Maharishi's at least--requires some vow of 
> celibacy, which presumably Maharishi gave in the course of his commitment to 
> Swami Brahmananda Saraswati).
> 
> 2. Were TM to be what Maharishi claimed it to be:--Nature's way of coming to 
> know the Unified Field, Nature's way of knowing the final truth about nature, 
> Nature's way of fulfilling one full potential as a human being--*Nature would 
> never allow the exponent, the personal embodiment, of this truth to be 
> compromised in this way*. Nature would have supported Maharishi's celibacy. 
> The fact that Nature did not do this, tells us everything we need to know 
> about the finality of Nature's commitment to the truth of TM, since guarding 
> the reputation of Maharishi in this way would  have been a sine qua non. And, 
> as well, what Nature ['Nature' here designates the source of truth, the 
> source of 'creative intelligence', the ultimate arbiter of what is real] 
> really thought of Maharishi is revealed in allowing Maharishi to disgrace 
> himself in this way. That is, not in the act of having a physical 
> relationship with Judith Bourque, but in his implicit presentation of himself 
> as someone incapable of succumbing to the insistence of his erotic desire. 
> 
> 3. Maharishi must have known somehow that the truth would eventually come out 
> about him. He did nothing to prepare his disciples, or his successor, for 
> this scandal, a scandal whose reverberations would never cease, because of 
> how impressive and beautiful and believable Maharishi was in terms of 
> radiating out from himself the truth of his very Teaching. Imagine, had 
> someone posed theoretically the question to him: "Maharishi, what  should a 
> disciple of a Master do or feel if that Master, who was sworn--one must 
> believe, happily so--to celibacy, violates that vow and demonstrates by doing 
> so that he is a prisoner of something other than his own pure consciousness?" 
> Maharishi was never able to compute the inevitable consequences of his having 
> indulged--however sincerely at the level of romance--his carnal desires in 
> this way. What Rick brings our attention to seems to offer up an answer to 
> this: Maharishi thought he, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is your vegetariansim a mask for an eating disorder?

[Bhairitu]

On 08/03/2012 10:06 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> Fascinating study, one that doesn't surprise me, either about
> vegetarians or other kinds of "food trippers" -- those who stick to a
> rigid diet of any kind.
> Vegetarianism, Eating Disorder Study Reveals Worrisome Relationship
> Among Women  "I can't eat that, sorry."
> If you're a vegetarian, that's a refrain you're probably familiar  with.
> Food abounds -- at work, at social gatherings -- but you don't  partake
> because of your dietary restrictions. That mystery hors d'oeuvre  or
> greasy teriyaki stick? Thanks but no thanks.
>
> There are many valid reasons to be a vegetarian (see: the  environment,
> your health, and the dismal state of the meat industry, for  starters).
> But what if you go vegetarian to help disguise and aid an  eating
> disorder?
>
> New research suggests a large percentage of women with eating disorders
> may be doing just that.
>
> Women suffering from eating disorders are four times more likely to  be
> vegetarian than women without eating disorders, according to a recent
> study published
>   in
> the Journal of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics.
>
> The researchers found that 52 percent of women with a history of  eating
> disorders had been vegetarians at some point in their lives. In
> contrast, only 12 percent of women without eating disorders had
> experimented with a vegetarian diet.
>
> For clinicians who work with eating disorder patients, the results of
> the study were not surprising.
>
> "Going vegetarian can be another way to cut out a food category, or a
> number of food categories, if you become a vegan," Vanessa Kane-Alves, a
> registered dietician with Boston Children's Hospital's Eating Disorders
> Program, told The Huffington Post. "It makes it easier when people ask
> you questions about where those foods have gone. It's a more socially
> acceptable way to restrict foods."
>
> Especially as a teen, parents might be less apt to argue with you for
> not eating, she added.
>
> Kane-Alves, who was not involved in the study, emphasized that the
> research doesn't argue vegetarianism causes eating disorders, or is
> unhealthy. Instead, it suggests vegetarianism can be a symptom of an
> eating disorder for some women.
>
> "The takeaway of this study is, as a clinician, if you have a patient
> who tells you they want to be a vegetarian, it's worth exploring that
> more than you would have otherwise," she said. She suggests doctors ask
> their patients why they want to go vegetarian.
>
> In the study, the motivation to go vegetarian was starkly different
> between women with eating disorders and those who were not. None of the
> women without eating disorders reported becoming vegetarians to lose
> weight. In contrast, almost half of those with an eating disorder
> history said weight was their primary motivator.
>
> Of the women with a history of eating disorders and a history of
> vegetarianism, 68 percent said there was a relationship between the two.
> A vegetarian diet helped them lose weight, cut calories and feel in
> control, they reported.
>
> Going vegetarian in order to lose weight and control eating can also
> fall into the category of orthorexia -- an obsession with healthy eating
> that can cover for an eating disorder
>  ,
> according to Kane-Alves.
>
> "It's one and the same," she said. "It's all restricting food groups,
> spending a lot of time in your life thinking about food, preparing
> food, reading labels, when you don't necessarily have to."
>
> She pointed out, too, that only five percent of those fully recovered
> from their eating disorder were still vegetarians.
>
> "We always try to respect vegetarian eating practices, but what this
> suggests is that maybe we should have different recommendations for
> vegetarians with eating disorders who are trying to get better," she
> said. "We need to at least have a discussion with the person about how
> it might be getting in the way of their recovery."

I get in spats all the time with "philosophical vegetarians."  As you 
know I'm a strong believer in biochemical individuality which is a 
cornerstone of Ayurvedic and Chinese medicine and of course the western 
re-invention sometimes referred to as metabolic typing.  The theory is 
we are what our ancestors ate and hence it may be difficult to break 
from that heritage without some physical problems.  I've seen this time 
and time again as people experiment with diet.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> 
> Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous Dutch 
> horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
>

Here ya go, Ann. NBC has videos of many events as well as live streaming. 
Hester is masterful, Uthopia is a gorgeous horse from head to tail.
http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/equestrian/highlights-carl-hesters-individual-dressage-ride.html

I'm on vacation in Michigan, just north of Oscoda on Lake Huron, haven't posted 
much. I've been taking long walks on the shore, toes in sugar sand, enjoying a 
nice breeze coming off the lake, just relaxing and visiting family. In the 
evening I've had eyes glued to the Olympics, women's gymnastics, swimming and 
beach volleyball. 

All glory to gymnast, Gabby Douglas! Fabulous! Only 4'11, just a little bit of 
a thing, but, oh what a powerhouse. She won gold for Women's All Round. Number 
one and best in the world. Gabby trains in West Des Moines, Iowa. My 
granddaughter, a budding gymnast, love-love-loves her! 

Here's Gabby's winning Floor Exercise:  
http://www.nbcolympics.com/wthr/video/gymnastics/highlight-gabby-douglas-floor-exercise-in-all-around-final.html
 

The precision and years of training required of a gymnast is every bit as 
demanding as it is for dressage, both exquisitely beautiful and thrilling to 
watch.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 3, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> 
> > See how all the most holy monks in Rishikish came to pay their respects to 
> > Maharishi the very morning after his first assignation with Judith Bourque. 
> > They, these enlightened monks, could never have conceived of Maharishi 
> > doing what he did the night before--and Judith describes Tatwalababa 
> > massaging Maharishi's feet "after we have been together". 
> 
> So much for omniscience, huh Robindra? ;-)

I'm still trying to figure out what the yonified field is? ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > > On Behalf Of wgm4u
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > > I know the names of at least six, and it's clear from the 
> > > > "Sexy Sadie" file and other info that there were many more. 
> > > > I don't know where you're getting "2 or 3".
> > >
> > > Where's the beef?? No innuendo accepted
> > 
> > You want notarized photos?
> 
> I have a quote from one of Maharishi's
> lesser-known videotapes. In it he says:
> 
> "Let's face it, I fucked `em all. I mean, that's what 
> I do. That's why I went to school. I mean, they're 
> always there – and I don't know what I'm apologizing 
> for, so sometimes I fuck `em. I go into the room and 
> they're so great looking, you know...and they feel 
> great and they smell great...you know, and I could 
> be just on the street or stop at a stop light or go 
> into an elevator or there's a beautiful girl. I don't 
> know...I mean, that's it – it makes my day – makes 
> me feel like I'm gonna live forever. As far as I'm 
> concerned, with what I'd like to have done at this 
> point in my life...I know I should've accomplished 
> more but I got no regrets – Jesus – aahhh... maybe 
> that means I don't love them. Maybe that means I 
> don't love you. I don't know. Nobody's gonna tell 
> me I don't like `em very much." 
> 
> Oh.
> 
> Wait. 
> 
> I just looked at the label on the videotape,
> and it wasn't Maharishi after all. That was 
> Warren Beatty, in the film "Shampoo." 
> 
> Never mind.

Pretty clever Turq, I though it was you, so who you dating now?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Schools in the Himalaya (full documentary)

[nablusoss1008]

And all are invited to visit. 
http://www.anamaytrust.org/kausani.htm

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> Dear Urs is doing a great job there !
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsw2vdhuano
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
> >
> > Found that while searching MMY documentaryto
> >
> >
> [http://anamayashram.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cropped-P1030493.jpg\
> \
> > ]
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsw2vdhuano
> > 
> >
> > This documentary is about Vedic schools in the Himalaya. The students
> > participating in these programs practice Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's
> > Transcendental Meditation technique, yoga asanas, and learn selected
> > stotras. All of this is organized through Dhanvantari Dhyan Yog Ved
> > Vigyan Utthan Samiti, an organization founded by Brahmchari Ashutosh
> > (formerly Urs Strobel). This documentary has been filmed and edited by
> > Brahmchari Ashutosh.
> >
> >
> [http://anamayashram.org/wp-content/gallery/assemblies-of-vedic-schools/\
> \
> > assembly-20066-copy.jpg]
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> >
> > > > [BillyG] Where's the beef?? No innuendo accepted
> > > 
> > > [Rick] You want notarized photos?
> > 
> > ..at least a stained dhoti (or sari). ;-) Even Bourque 
> > never went into detail (unless in her book). So far it's 
> > just her weird, 'er word against well, his.
> 
> Sounds to me as if Billy has a somewhat unhealthy
> interest in these matters. He wants details about
> the size of Mr. Cubby's chubby. :-)

Some 'real' evidence huh Turq?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Schools in the Himalaya (full documentary)

[nablusoss1008]

Dear Urs is doing a great job there !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsw2vdhuano



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> Found that while searching MMY documentaryto
>
>
[http://anamayashram.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cropped-P1030493.jpg\
\
> ]
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsw2vdhuano
> 
>
> This documentary is about Vedic schools in the Himalaya. The students
> participating in these programs practice Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's
> Transcendental Meditation technique, yoga asanas, and learn selected
> stotras. All of this is organized through Dhanvantari Dhyan Yog Ved
> Vigyan Utthan Samiti, an organization founded by Brahmchari Ashutosh
> (formerly Urs Strobel). This documentary has been filmed and edited by
> Brahmchari Ashutosh.
>
>
[http://anamayashram.org/wp-content/gallery/assemblies-of-vedic-schools/\
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> assembly-20066-copy.jpg]
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Robin Carlsen]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Robin Carlsen
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:39 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Dear Rick,
> 
> Had it not been for what you said about Maharishi and secrecy, I doubt I
> would have posted anything about this matter. But something alerted in me
> when I read your comment.
> 
> I think it was the toothpaste. :-)
> 
> You will see that I have added a ninth reflection, for me, the most
> important one of all.
> 
> The only way anything can change here is if either Bevan or someone else can
> communicate to us something about Maharishi which somehow is inclusive of
> his behaviour with women--women, that is, who caused him to feel intense
> physical desire.
> 
> Perhaps with Bevan (or this other person) such a portrait of Maharishi can
> emerge. But that would mean writing a book--it is I believe a book that
> Bevan's soul desperately would want him to write, but Bevan, he is likely to
> deny to his soul this satisfaction.
> 
> Robin
> 
> Bevan was as guilty of such behavior as MMY was. I doubt any such book will
> be forthcoming.

Dear Rick,

That is not something I know anything about, and it surprises me. Bevan always 
seemed to me to be a highly principled person. I do think, however, I know of 
someone who was close to Maharishi who was the only naturally celibate 
initiator I have ever known--and I think, moreover, his communion with 
Maharishi was like no one else's. He made teaching TM and being a disciple of 
Maharishi seem a very pure and irreproachable profession. He always carried the 
authority of his perfect surrender to Maharishi, and he himself found a dharma 
which was almost critic-proof.

I think even women always felt the flawlessness of his celibacy and therefore 
were comfortable around him for this very reason. But the real point I am 
trying to make here, Rick, is this person *knew Maharishi the man* as well as 
Maharishi the Master. And I felt that Maharishi made himself known in this way 
only to this person. Therefore this person, and this person only, really has 
the credentials to tell us all about Maharishi the man, the human being. For 
this person was objective about Maharishi, else he could not have delivered 
such a serene performance in every second (or so it seemed to me) that he 
served Maharishi. I don't think even after Maharishi's death was this 
relationship severed.

But he carried something so enigmatic in his deportment and person, that I 
hardly feel I know him even as I know you, whom I have never even met. But this 
person, I wish he would write a book about Maharishi, because his relationship 
with Maharishi was totally real--both from the side of Maharishi and from his 
own side.

He never pretended anything; he just remained attuned to Maharishi--in all his 
aspects. And he was totally believable in this. He was faultless in his 
devotion to an apparently faulty human being; but this person had this 
advantage: he saw how profound a person Maharishi was, and how the entire 
universe was willing to demonstrate how significant a being Maharishi was. And 
that is the story about Maharishi, Rick--at least it is for me. To be able to 
see Maharishi as he really was, including what Judith Bourque reveals in her 
book, requires also to see him as a truly cosmic being. This person I speak of 
he always could see that Maharishi was like no human being of our lifetime; he 
saw his spiritual integrity, no matter how it was compromised in his actions as 
a human being. And what this person apprehended, it was powerful and ineffable.

I would trust his account of Maharishi, and no one else's. Until then we only 
get the polarized and psychologically determined portraits--only in this person 
exists a paradigm that potentially can address the contradiction of Maharishi.

I will neither confirm or deny any candidates that you might feel tempted to 
put before me. I cannot do this. I respect this person's integrity too much, 
although it is a form of integrity which is outside the range of my own human 
possibilities. One thing I would say: Maharishi respected and loved this 
initiator more than anyone else. But only Maharishi and this person could know 
this.

What I seek, Rick, is some reconciliation of these antinomies in Maharishi. 
Only in this way can we ever obtain a proper estimate of him inside the 
universe. I have my reservations about him--to say the least--but I know he 
came upon the earth for some reason which transcends everything he has taught 
and everything he has done. And I believe this person possesses the capacity to 
speak about Maharishi and write about Maharishi such as--while excluding from 
his own experience the impact of, for instance, Judith's

[FairfieldLife] Why Do Ex-Porn Stars Support Romney?

[John]

Here's what one of them says:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/retired-porn-star-jenna-jameson-says-she-supports-143703925.html

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 3:11 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
"Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

 

  

Emily,

You have to consider the omens that were present during this interview. Did
you notice that the birds in the area started to get louder in their squeals
as the interview went on? It appears to me that there was something wrong
with the content of the interview.

JR

The birds were just getting a bit turned on.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > > On Behalf Of wgm4u
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > > I know the names of at least six, and it's clear from the 
> > > > "Sexy Sadie" file and other info that there were many more. 
> > > > I don't know where you're getting "2 or 3".
> > >
> > > Where's the beef?? No innuendo accepted
> > 
> > You want notarized photos?
> 
> I have a quote from one of Maharishi's
> lesser-known videotapes. In it he says:
> 
> "Let's face it, I fucked `em all. I mean, that's what 
> I do. That's why I went to school. I mean, they're 
> always there – and I don't know what I'm apologizing 
> for, so sometimes I fuck `em. I go into the room and 
> they're so great looking, you know...and they feel 
> great and they smell great...you know, and I could 
> be just on the street or stop at a stop light or go 
> into an elevator or there's a beautiful girl. I don't 
> know...I mean, that's it – it makes my day – makes 
> me feel like I'm gonna live forever. As far as I'm 
> concerned, with what I'd like to have done at this 
> point in my life...I know I should've accomplished 
> more but I got no regrets – Jesus – aahhh... maybe 
> that means I don't love them. Maybe that means I 
> don't love you. I don't know. Nobody's gonna tell 
> me I don't like `em very much." 
> 
> Oh.
> 
> Wait. 
> 
> I just looked at the label on the videotape,
> and it wasn't Maharishi after all. That was 
> Warren Beatty, in the film "Shampoo." 
> 
> Never mind.
>
Barry,

It sounds more like you've been watching Ron Jeremy's movies. :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 3, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:
> 
> > See how all the most holy monks in Rishikish came to pay their respects to 
> > Maharishi the very morning after his first assignation with Judith Bourque. 
> > They, these enlightened monks, could never have conceived of Maharishi 
> > doing what he did the night before--and Judith describes Tatwalababa 
> > massaging Maharishi's feet "after we have been together". 
> 
> So much for omniscience, huh Robindra? ;-)

Just curious Vaj. What is the physical sensation you experience when you allow 
yourself to strike out at people? What is the corresponding cerebral 
experience? Is there a reward in it for you and what does it feel like? Do you 
get high Vaj? Is it the same sensation as when you do something loving for 
someone? What feels better, hurling insults or providing caring support? Just 
curious. Maybe there's a clinical or spiritual condition that you fall under 
here. Or maybe it just has no name.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Emily,
> 
> You have to consider the omens that were present during 
> this interview.  Did you notice that the birds in the 
> area started to get louder in their squeals as the 
> interview went on?  It appears to me that there was 
> something wrong with the content of the interview.

And people ask me why I still read Fairfield Life.

There are off-the-wall TB cult twif beliefs, and 
then there are truly insane TB cult twif beliefs. 
This place is better than "Jersey Shore."  :-)

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > Rick - thank you for posting this. This interview is truly 
> > excellent and has so much to say on so many levels. Beautiful.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Rick Archer 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 9:10 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" 
> > Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
> >  
> > 
> >   
> > http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> >
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Robin Carlsen
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:39 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
"Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

 

  

Dear Rick,

Had it not been for what you said about Maharishi and secrecy, I doubt I
would have posted anything about this matter. But something alerted in me
when I read your comment.

I think it was the toothpaste. :-)

You will see that I have added a ninth reflection, for me, the most
important one of all.

The only way anything can change here is if either Bevan or someone else can
communicate to us something about Maharishi which somehow is inclusive of
his behaviour with women--women, that is, who caused him to feel intense
physical desire.

Perhaps with Bevan (or this other person) such a portrait of Maharishi can
emerge. But that would mean writing a book--it is I believe a book that
Bevan's soul desperately would want him to write, but Bevan, he is likely to
deny to his soul this satisfaction.

Robin

Bevan was as guilty of such behavior as MMY was. I doubt any such book will
be forthcoming.

 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Vaj
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:52 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
"Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

 

  

 

On Aug 3, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:





See how all the most holy monks in Rishikish came to pay their respects to
Maharishi the very morning after his first assignation with Judith Bourque.
They, these enlightened monks, could never have conceived of Maharishi doing
what he did the night before--and Judith describes Tatwalababa massaging
Maharishi's feet "after we have been together". 

 

So much for omniscience, huh Robindra? ;-)

 

Either that, or Tat Wala Baba knew what MMY had been up to and gave him a
foot rub to recharge his shakti.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[John]

Emily,

You have to consider the omens that were present during this interview.  Did 
you notice that the birds in the area started to get louder in their squeals as 
the interview went on?  It appears to me that there was something wrong with 
the content of the interview.

JR



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Rick - thank you for posting this.  This interview is truly excellent and 
> has so much to say on so many levels.  Beautiful.  
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Rick Archer 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 9:10 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" 
> Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
>  
> 
>   
> http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Vaj]

On Aug 3, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:

> One would have thought that if what Judith Bourque has told is is true, then 
> Maharishi somehow would have had to bear the consequences of this; and this 
> would, however imperceptibly, show up in his performance. It would almost be 
> like discovering Saint Francis secretly sponsored dog-fighting. I know that 
> sounds harsh, but the idea of Maharishi transferring his love for his 
> Master--and the Holy Tradition--to a woman and and an experience which he 
> knew was ephemeral, which he knew was impossible to sustain in the context of 
> his role in the world, why this just defies the imagination--it does mine, 
> anyhow. I trusted Maharishi in this way, not on the basis of simply his 
> enlightenment, but on the very form that enlightenment took, which was as a 
> traditional celibate Saint. 


It has (appeared in his “performance”), wasn’t it Judith who noted the distress 
of Maheshiji and the drowning of a student on a course as stemming from his own 
sexual karmas? Perhaps that was from Conny Larsson?


>From Robert McCutcheon: (Maharishi's former secretary)

Ned, you are spot-on in what you say about Maharishi and the TM movement. My 
faith in Maharishi's supposed perfection dissipated when he got sexually 
involved with Jennifer. Then when she left him and went to hide out in 
Switzerland with Bev and Fran, I observed him reduced to the status of a 
quivering adolescent.


Vaj - apparently great yogic-rishi types turn into sniveling, quivering 
adolescents when the lingam can no longer find the yonified field. Who’da thunk?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> Thanks  awoelflebater may I kiss your hand

Yes, I would be honored and thank you for the rose. You are evidently someone 
of great sensitivity (I already knew that) and wonderful knowledge of a great 
variety of things in this world. A modern day Renaissance person.

> Dear Robert just try to follow the little cute kids innocently  [:D]
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLD3-lOh2xc&feature=related
> 
> "Robert" babajii_99@ wrote:When all they want to do is run free...
> 
> here you are at 05:09
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2DPh9zvSb4
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYThblo74hg
> 
> 
> Can you imagine a 20 minute Grand Prix Freestyle with eight horses? 
> That's the nature of the Quadrille  a "classic horse ballet" the 
> "longest of its kind in the world" the standard to which all other group
> performances are measured!
> If you want  and i have time later i may  write you some few quick 
> definitions  descriptions (Volte,Pesade,Passade,Classical piaffe,Trot 
> Work,Canter Work etc.as well as Young Stallions, the Pas de Deux, and 
> the Long Rein solo)by friend of family and mentor world famous (The 
> Miracle of the White Stallions)Col. Alois Podhajsky, Director of the 
> Spanish Riding School from 1939 to1965.
> Remembering  these in his own passionate words could be a sentimental
> journey back into a long gone area.
> In the mean time just enjoy with open mind  these first.
> 
> (For  awoelflebater :October 15, 2008. Spanish Riding School in Vienna 
> two young ladies, a 21-year old Austrian and a 17-year old British 
> woman, were the first females in a very long time to be allowed -in 
> revival an  old tradition-to ride in the famous baroque Winter Riding 
> School. Until approx. 100 years ago,the end of the Austrian monarchy, 
> only the ladies of the Imperial Court were permitted to regularly take 
> part in the so called Riding Festivals and Carousels)
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLD3-lOh2xc&feature=related
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
> wrote:
> >
> snip
> >
> >  Poor Robert. Who has broken your balls? Just watch the power, the
> grace  and the beauty of this dear boy...You don't get these kind of 
> performances if the horse doesn't want to do it. A long time before they
> hit Grand Prix they would have imploded and exploded. But I know you're 
> just looking for a reaction. Just watch the horses, you're missing 
> something here. But you know that.
> snip
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Vaj]

On Aug 3, 2012, at 2:02 PM, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:

> See how all the most holy monks in Rishikish came to pay their respects to 
> Maharishi the very morning after his first assignation with Judith Bourque. 
> They, these enlightened monks, could never have conceived of Maharishi doing 
> what he did the night before--and Judith describes Tatwalababa massaging 
> Maharishi's feet "after we have been together". 

So much for omniscience, huh Robindra? ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Robin Carlsen]

Dear Rick,

Had it not been for what you said about Maharishi and secrecy, I doubt I would 
have posted anything about this matter. But something alerted in me when I read 
your comment.

I think it was the toothpaste. :-)

You will see that I have added a ninth reflection, for me, the most important 
one of all.

The only way anything can change here is if either Bevan or someone else can 
communicate to us something about Maharishi which somehow is inclusive of his 
behaviour with women--women, that is, who caused him to feel intense physical 
desire.

Perhaps with Bevan (or this other person) such a portrait of Maharishi can 
emerge. But that would mean writing a book--it is I believe a book that Bevan's 
soul desperately would want him to write, but Bevan, he is likely to deny to 
his soul this satisfaction.

Robin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robin Carlsen"  wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> > 
> > She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and 
> > soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver 
> > for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a 
> > tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?
> 
> Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* 
> reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into
> Judith Bourque and a number of other women.
> 
> If you're looking for a "tortured soul," it seems
> to me that it would be the person who did this while 
> claiming to be celibate.

If MMY 'the great pretender' only nailed a couple of broads in his lifetime 
with all that money and power, he was a pretty poor Don Juan, don't cha think? 
;-)

Come on Turq, you know you and I would be nailing them all and probably have a 
harem to boot!

That's a silly comment. He "nailed" quite a few, but he couldn't exactly go hog 
wild and yet retain secrecy. It's amazing he was able to keep it as secret as 
he did. I believe that may be why he placed such emphasis on secrecy and 
confidentiality in general. Those in positions of authority knew things on a 
need to know basis. Neil Paterson wouldn't tell you what brand of toothpaste he 
used.

RESPONSE: I think this comment by Rich to be apposite--and holding within 
itself a level of sophistication that begins to go to what the reality is. I 
have never had that thought: "I believe that may be why he placed such emphasis 
on secrecy and confidentiality in general". It seems it could be true.

For myself, I think there are a number of things  to think about if one assumes 
the veracity of  Judy Bourque's testimony (corroborated most unforgettable in 
Robert McCutcheon's "Afterword and Witness Testimonial"):

1. Maharishi either did not care to preserve his integrity in this way, and 
therefore does not have a conscience, or else he was unable to control his 
carnal desires, and surrendered himself up to his concupiscence involuntarily, 
as it were. Judith was, after all, a beautiful woman: she certainly would put 
his enlightenment to the test (in this way, enlightenment--Maharishi's at 
least--requires some vow of celibacy, which presumably Maharishi gave in the 
course of his commitment to Swami Brahmananda Saraswati).

2. Were TM to be what Maharishi claimed it to be:--Nature's way of coming to 
know the Unified Field, Nature's way of knowing the final truth about nature, 
Nature's way of fulfilling one full potential as a human being--*Nature would 
never allow the exponent, the personal embodiment, of this truth to be 
compromised in this way*. Nature would have supported Maharishi's celibacy. The 
fact that Nature did not do this, tells us everything we need to know about the 
finality of Nature's commitment to the truth of TM, since guarding the 
reputation of Maharishi in this way would  have been a sine qua non. And, as 
well, what Nature ['Nature' here designates the source of truth, the source of 
'creative intelligence', the ultimate arbiter of what is real] really thought 
of Maharishi is revealed in allowing Maharishi to disgrace himself in this way. 
That is, not in the act of having a physical relationship with Judith Bourque, 
but in his implicit presentation of himself as someone incapable of succumbing 
to the insistence of his erotic feelings.

3. Maharishi must have known somehow that the truth would eventually come out 
about him. He did nothing to prepare his disciples, or his successor, for this 
scandal, a scandal who reverberations would never cease, because of how 
impressive and beautiful and believable Maharishi was in terms of radiating out 
from himself the truth of his very Teaching. Imagine, had someone posed 
theoretically the questions to him: Maharishi, what would should a disciple of 
a Master do 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'History Channel's~ Bio of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi'...

[Bhairitu]

Firefox is the latest version so that isn't the problem.  Do a search of 
Firefox and Blip TV and a lot of results pop up.  Easy enough to just 
launch Chrome instead. But I may look into what it is that keeps Firefox 
from even loading that site.

On 08/03/2012 10:35 AM, merudanda wrote:
> Dear Bhairitu did not have any problem ---may be update FF
> or
> here in French (enjoy and drink a glass red wine to my health -good
> night)
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Documentaire - 1/5
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzEzgWfXcIs
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Documentaire - 1/5
>   Maharishi Mahesh Yogi -
> Documentaire - 2/5 
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Documentaire - 3/5
> 
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Documentaire - 3/5
> 
> Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Documentaire - 4/5
>  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi -
> Documentaire - 5/5 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
>> On 08/02/2012 07:44 PM, Robert wrote:
>>> http://blip.tv/raja-felix/maharishi-oskn-history-channel-3723794
>>>
>> snip
>> Interesting the Blip TV doesn't want to load on Firefox.  It will on
>> Chrome.  I thought it might be a Linux only problem but doing a search
>> even Windows users find it not loading.
>>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

[merudanda]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > -who wants to fly away
>
> Oh, start it earlier:oh father in heaven forgive  how i could miss
that part
and thank  you Judith-ji for the advanced technique initiation(or may i
use it as a night technique)wisper wisper
"i'vseenitin-inthemovie"
(you as a trained checker may  be respectful reminded  to make a
checking on me on regular basis from now on, please)
>
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXA30hD2NQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=1\
3m00s
>
> Otherwise it kills the funniest line in the film (by me,
> anyway).you see i take it quite serious wisdom-wise
>
> snip
> >
> > Hey Jude I knew you do not " luv me"
> >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXA30hD2NQfeature=player_detailpage#t=5\
> > 095s
>
> I can't do anything right!-did you hear the gun shot--
it's now on your guilt ridden conscience   [:D] that merudanda may  only
post as a ghostwriter
wait a minute
it's that above mention night technique only to be done at midnight??
> humbly ask for spiritual advice and first checking
yours truly
>
>
> >
 > 5095s>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh God, hilarious...but is Burt pulling on his chest hair at
> > > > one point?!
> > >
> > > He sure is. That is such a beautifully acted, written
> > > (by Jerry Belson), and directed (by Reynolds himself)
> > > scene. The film ("The End") drags a bit in spots, but
> > > it has some brilliant scenes (including one with Robby
> > > Benson as a neophyte priest hearing Reynolds's confession).
> > >
> snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[Robert]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > Oh Jesus...why oh why do these ladies...
> > 
> > Want to break these horses, balls...
> > 
> > When all they want to do is run free...
> > 
> > Typical Control Freaks, I'd say...
> 
> Poor Robert. Who has broken your balls? Just watch the power, the grace and 
> the beauty of this dear boy...You don't get these kind of performances if the 
> horse doesn't want to do it. A long time before they hit Grand Prix they 
> would have imploded and exploded. But I know you're just looking for a 
> reaction. Just watch the horses, you're missing something here. But you know 
> that.

Yeah, I guess you're right...
It just bugs me that the Romney's are into that sort of thing...
Just so prissy...


> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
> > >
> > > yes
> > > http://www.london2012.com/equestrian/event/dressage-individual/index.htm\
> > > l
> > >  > > ml>
> > > 
> > > thanks for reminder-looking forward some video too but  being quite busy
> > > and cannot ignore the world-upside -down here
> > > here what a found-in a hurry
> > > Olympics 2012 profile: Carl Hester dressage
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JcrEKP3ysU
> > > 
> > > Edward Gal & Glock's Undercover [Netherlands]
> > > Nathalie zu Sayn Wittgenstein & Digby [Denmark]
> > > Beatrix Ferrer Salat & Delgado [Spain] (EDIT:Withdrawn pre-event--not
> > > sound)
> > > Juan Manuel Munoz Diaz & Fuego de Cardenas [Spain]
> > > Carl Hester & Uthopia [Great Britain]
> > > Imke Schellekens Bartels & Hunter Douglas Toots [Netherlands] (EDIT:
> > > just missed out on selection!)
> > > Helen Langehanenberg & Damon Hill [Germany]
> > > Laura Bechtolsheimer & Mistral Hojris [Great Britain]
> > > Charlotte Dujardin & Valegro [Great Britain]
> > > Adelinde Cornelissen & Jerich Parzival [Netherlands]
> > > Jessica Michel & Riwera de Hus [France]
> > > Kristina Sprehe & Desperados [Germany]
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj999RiAcfE
> > > 
> > > 
> > > so please keep me posted
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> > > >
> > > > Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous
> > > Dutch horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Robin Carlsen]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> > 
> > She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and 
> > soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver 
> > for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a 
> > tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?
> 
> Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* 
> reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into
> Judith Bourque and a number of other women.
> 
> If you're looking for a "tortured soul," it seems
> to me that it would be the person who did this while 
> claiming to be celibate.

If MMY 'the great pretender' only nailed a couple of broads in his lifetime 
with all that money and power, he was a pretty poor Don Juan, don't cha think? 
;-)

Come on Turq, you know you and I would be nailing them all and probably have a 
harem to boot!

That's a silly comment. He "nailed" quite a few, but he couldn't exactly go hog 
wild and yet retain secrecy. It's amazing he was able to keep it as secret as 
he did. I believe that may be why he placed such emphasis on secrecy and 
confidentiality in general. Those in positions of authority knew things on a 
need to know basis. Neil Paterson wouldn't tell you what brand of toothpaste he 
used.

RESPONSE: I think this comment by Rick to be apposite--and holding within 
itself a level of sophistication that begins to go to what the reality is. I 
have never had that thought: "I believe that may be why he [Maharishi] placed 
such emphasis on secrecy and confidentiality in general". It seems it could be 
true.

For myself, I think there are a number of things  to think about if one assumes 
the veracity of Judy Bourque's testimony (corroborated most unforgettably in 
Robert McCutcheon's "Afterword and Witness Testimonial"):

1. Maharishi either did not care to preserve his integrity in this way [that 
is, match his private life with his declared public persona--not caring about 
the consequences of this], and therefore does not have a conscience, or else he 
was unable to control his carnal desires, and surrendered himself up to his 
concupiscence involuntarily, as it were. Judith was, after all, a beautiful 
young woman: she certainly would put his enlightenment to the test (in this 
way, enlightenment--Maharishi's at least--requires some vow of celibacy, which 
presumably Maharishi gave in the course of his commitment to Swami Brahmananda 
Saraswati).

2. Were TM to be what Maharishi claimed it to be:--Nature's way of coming to 
know the Unified Field, Nature's way of knowing the final truth about nature, 
Nature's way of fulfilling one full potential as a human being--*Nature would 
never allow the exponent, the personal embodiment, of this truth to be 
compromised in this way*. Nature would have supported Maharishi's celibacy. The 
fact that Nature did not do this, tells us everything we need to know about the 
finality of Nature's commitment to the truth of TM, since guarding the 
reputation of Maharishi in this way would  have been a sine qua non. And, as 
well, what Nature ['Nature' here designates the source of truth, the source of 
'creative intelligence', the ultimate arbiter of what is real] really thought 
of Maharishi is revealed in allowing Maharishi to disgrace himself in this way. 
That is, not in the act of having a physical relationship with Judith Bourque, 
but in his implicit presentation of himself as someone incapable of succumbing 
to the insistence of his erotic desire. 

3. Maharishi must have known somehow that the truth would eventually come out 
about him. He did nothing to prepare his disciples, or his successor, for this 
scandal, a scandal whose reverberations would never cease, because of how 
impressive and beautiful and believable Maharishi was in terms of radiating out 
from himself the truth of his very Teaching. Imagine, had someone posed 
theoretically the question to him: "Maharishi, what  should a disciple of a 
Master do or feel if that Master, who was sworn--one must believe, happily 
so--to celibacy, violates that vow and demonstrates by doing so that he is a 
prisoner of something other than his own pure consciousness?" Maharishi was 
never able to compute the inevitable consequences of his having 
indulged--however sincerely at the level of romance--his carnal desires in this 
way. What Rick brings our attention to seems to offer up an answer to this: 
Maharishi thought he, as it were, could behave in a way which would 
metaphysically somehow keep the universe itself from divulging the truth about 
his inability or unwillingness to live out the truth which he so powerfully and 
explicitly imposed upon those wh

[FairfieldLife] Vedic Schools in the Himalaya (full documentary)

[merudanda]

Found that while searching MMY documentaryto
 
[http://anamayashram.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/cropped-P1030493.jpg\
]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsw2vdhuano


This documentary is about Vedic schools in the Himalaya. The students 
participating in these programs practice Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's 
Transcendental Meditation technique, yoga asanas, and learn selected 
stotras. All of this is organized through Dhanvantari Dhyan Yog Ved 
Vigyan Utthan Samiti, an organization founded by Brahmchari Ashutosh 
(formerly Urs Strobel). This documentary has been filmed and edited by 
Brahmchari Ashutosh.
 
[http://anamayashram.org/wp-content/gallery/assemblies-of-vedic-schools/\
assembly-20066-copy.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'History Channel's~ Bio of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi'...

[merudanda]

Dear Bhairitu did not have any problem ---may be update FF
or
here in French (enjoy and drink a glass red wine to my health -good
night)
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Documentaire - 1/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzEzgWfXcIs
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Documentaire - 1/5
  Maharishi Mahesh Yogi -
Documentaire - 2/5 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Documentaire - 3/5

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Documentaire - 3/5

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Documentaire - 4/5
 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi -
Documentaire - 5/5 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

>
> On 08/02/2012 07:44 PM, Robert wrote:
> > http://blip.tv/raja-felix/maharishi-oskn-history-channel-3723794
> >
>snip
> Interesting the Blip TV doesn't want to load on Firefox.  It will on
> Chrome.  I thought it might be a Linux only problem but doing a search
> even Windows users find it not loading.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> > > [BillyG] Where's the beef?? No innuendo accepted
> > 
> > [Rick] You want notarized photos?
> 
> ..at least a stained dhoti (or sari). ;-) Even Bourque 
> never went into detail (unless in her book). So far it's 
> just her weird, 'er word against well, his.

Sounds to me as if Billy has a somewhat unhealthy
interest in these matters. He wants details about
the size of Mr. Cubby's chubby. :-)

[FairfieldLife] Is your vegetariansim a mask for an eating disorder?

[turquoiseb]

Fascinating study, one that doesn't surprise me, either about
vegetarians or other kinds of "food trippers" -- those who stick to a
rigid diet of any kind.
Vegetarianism, Eating Disorder Study Reveals Worrisome Relationship
Among Women  "I can't eat that, sorry."
If you're a vegetarian, that's a refrain you're probably familiar  with.
Food abounds -- at work, at social gatherings -- but you don't  partake
because of your dietary restrictions. That mystery hors d'oeuvre  or
greasy teriyaki stick? Thanks but no thanks.

There are many valid reasons to be a vegetarian (see: the  environment,
your health, and the dismal state of the meat industry, for  starters).
But what if you go vegetarian to help disguise and aid an  eating
disorder?

New research suggests a large percentage of women with eating disorders
may be doing just that.

Women suffering from eating disorders are four times more likely to  be
vegetarian than women without eating disorders, according to a recent
study published
  in
the Journal of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics.

The researchers found that 52 percent of women with a history of  eating
disorders had been vegetarians at some point in their lives. In 
contrast, only 12 percent of women without eating disorders had 
experimented with a vegetarian diet.

For clinicians who work with eating disorder patients, the results of
the study were not surprising.

"Going vegetarian can be another way to cut out a food category, or a 
number of food categories, if you become a vegan," Vanessa Kane-Alves, a
registered dietician with Boston Children's Hospital's Eating Disorders 
Program, told The Huffington Post. "It makes it easier when people ask 
you questions about where those foods have gone. It's a more socially 
acceptable way to restrict foods."

Especially as a teen, parents might be less apt to argue with you for
not eating, she added.

Kane-Alves, who was not involved in the study, emphasized that the 
research doesn't argue vegetarianism causes eating disorders, or is 
unhealthy. Instead, it suggests vegetarianism can be a symptom of an 
eating disorder for some women.

"The takeaway of this study is, as a clinician, if you have a patient 
who tells you they want to be a vegetarian, it's worth exploring that 
more than you would have otherwise," she said. She suggests doctors ask 
their patients why they want to go vegetarian.

In the study, the motivation to go vegetarian was starkly different 
between women with eating disorders and those who were not. None of the 
women without eating disorders reported becoming vegetarians to lose 
weight. In contrast, almost half of those with an eating disorder 
history said weight was their primary motivator.

Of the women with a history of eating disorders and a history of 
vegetarianism, 68 percent said there was a relationship between the two.
A vegetarian diet helped them lose weight, cut calories and feel in 
control, they reported.

Going vegetarian in order to lose weight and control eating can also 
fall into the category of orthorexia -- an obsession with healthy eating
that can cover for an eating disorder
 ,
according to Kane-Alves.

"It's one and the same," she said. "It's all restricting food groups, 
spending a lot of time in your life thinking about food, preparing 
food, reading labels, when you don't necessarily have to."

She pointed out, too, that only five percent of those fully recovered
from their eating disorder were still vegetarians.

"We always try to respect vegetarian eating practices, but what this 
suggests is that maybe we should have different recommendations for 
vegetarians with eating disorders who are trying to get better," she 
said. "We need to at least have a discussion with the person about how 
it might be getting in the way of their recovery."

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of wgm4u
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:37 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
"Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

 

 > 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
>  , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
> 
> [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
>  ]
> > On Behalf Of wgm4u
> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:37 AM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com


> 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
> > 
> > 
> > Are you telling me MMY only had 2 or 3 girlfriends in his lifetime? Come
> on,
> > if he is who they say he is he would have been clearly exposed by now.
All
> > we have in ONE real liar 'er...witness, after, what 40 years??!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I know the names of at least six, and it's clear from the "Sexy Sadie"
> file
> > and other info that there were many more. I don't know where you're
> getting
> > "2 or 3".
> 
> Where's the beef?? No innuendo accepted
> 
> You want notarized photos?

..at least a stained dhoti (or sari). ;-) Even Bourque never went into
detail (unless in her book). So far it's just her weird, 'er word against
well, his.

 

Maybe you should try reading the book before commenting on it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[merudanda]

Thanks  awoelflebater may I kiss your hand
Dear Robert just try to follow the little cute kids innocently  [:D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLD3-lOh2xc&feature=related

"Robert" babajii_99@ wrote:When all they want to do is run free...

here you are at 05:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2DPh9zvSb4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYThblo74hg


Can you imagine a 20 minute Grand Prix Freestyle with eight horses? 
That's the nature of the Quadrille  a "classic horse ballet" the 
"longest of its kind in the world" the standard to which all other group
performances are measured!
If you want  and i have time later i may  write you some few quick 
definitions  descriptions (Volte,Pesade,Passade,Classical piaffe,Trot 
Work,Canter Work etc.as well as Young Stallions, the Pas de Deux, and 
the Long Rein solo)by friend of family and mentor world famous (The 
Miracle of the White Stallions)Col. Alois Podhajsky, Director of the 
Spanish Riding School from 1939 to1965.
Remembering  these in his own passionate words could be a sentimental
journey back into a long gone area.
In the mean time just enjoy with open mind  these first.

(For  awoelflebater :October 15, 2008. Spanish Riding School in Vienna 
two young ladies, a 21-year old Austrian and a 17-year old British 
woman, were the first females in a very long time to be allowed -in 
revival an  old tradition-to ride in the famous baroque Winter Riding 
School. Until approx. 100 years ago,the end of the Austrian monarchy, 
only the ladies of the Imperial Court were permitted to regularly take 
part in the so called Riding Festivals and Carousels)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLD3-lOh2xc&feature=related


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
wrote:
>
snip
>
>  Poor Robert. Who has broken your balls? Just watch the power, the
grace  and the beauty of this dear boy...You don't get these kind of 
performances if the horse doesn't want to do it. A long time before they
hit Grand Prix they would have imploded and exploded. But I know you're 
just looking for a reaction. Just watch the horses, you're missing 
something here. But you know that.
snip
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> > On Behalf Of wgm4u
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > I know the names of at least six, and it's clear from the 
> > > "Sexy Sadie" file and other info that there were many more. 
> > > I don't know where you're getting "2 or 3".
> >
> > Where's the beef?? No innuendo accepted
> 
> You want notarized photos?

I have a quote from one of Maharishi's
lesser-known videotapes. In it he says:

"Let's face it, I fucked `em all. I mean, that's what 
I do. That's why I went to school. I mean, they're 
always there – and I don't know what I'm apologizing 
for, so sometimes I fuck `em. I go into the room and 
they're so great looking, you know...and they feel 
great and they smell great...you know, and I could 
be just on the street or stop at a stop light or go 
into an elevator or there's a beautiful girl. I don't 
know...I mean, that's it – it makes my day – makes 
me feel like I'm gonna live forever. As far as I'm 
concerned, with what I'd like to have done at this 
point in my life...I know I should've accomplished 
more but I got no regrets – Jesus – aahhh... maybe 
that means I don't love them. Maybe that means I 
don't love you. I don't know. Nobody's gonna tell 
me I don't like `em very much." 

Oh.

Wait. 

I just looked at the label on the videotape,
and it wasn't Maharishi after all. That was 
Warren Beatty, in the film "Shampoo." 

Never mind.

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'History Channel's~ Bio of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi'...

[Bhairitu]

On 08/02/2012 07:44 PM, Robert wrote:
> http://blip.tv/raja-felix/maharishi-oskn-history-channel-3723794
>   
> Highlights include...
>   
> Donovan smokes a joint before intiation by Maharishi.
> Jerry Jarvis says Maharishi 'exaggerates' in relation to 'Flying Sutra' and 
> ME.
> Maharishi says he doesn't care what he is remembered for...
> Maharishi is asked where the money will come from for various pojects, says...
> It will come from 'wherever it is now'...lol.
> Watch this very interesting and objective take on the Life of Maharishi 
> Mahesh Yogi.

Interesting the Blip TV doesn't want to load on Firefox.  It will on 
Chrome.  I thought it might be a Linux only problem but doing a search 
even Windows users find it not loading.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of wgm4u
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:18 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> 
> [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  ]
> > On Behalf Of wgm4u
> > Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:37 AM
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> > "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
> > 
> > 
> > Are you telling me MMY only had 2 or 3 girlfriends in his lifetime? Come
> on,
> > if he is who they say he is he would have been clearly exposed by now. All
> > we have in ONE real liar 'er...witness, after, what 40 years??!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I know the names of at least six, and it's clear from the "Sexy Sadie"
> file
> > and other info that there were many more. I don't know where you're
> getting
> > "2 or 3".
> 
> Where's the beef?? No innuendo accepted
> 
> You want notarized photos?

..at least a stained dhoti (or sari). ;-) Even Bourque never went into detail 
(unless in her book). So far it's just her weird, 'er word against well, his.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Romney's Right Wing/Neo-Facist Policies/2012

[Bhairitu]

Or you get a porn star to endorse you. :-D
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/03/porn-star-jenna-jameson-backs-romney-when-youre-rich-you-want-a-republican/

Yup, self-centered and greedy folks LOVE Republicans.

On 08/02/2012 10:51 PM, Robert wrote:
> No one is really 'Following' Willard Romney, besides the top 1% on Wall St. 
> and others who would reap millions in additional profits...
>
> The majority of the ones who will be voting for him, are really voting 
> against President Obama...
> Many of these same people are going to 'So-Called' Christian Churches who are 
> preaching to their retarded masses, that President Obama is a 'Secret Muslim' 
> who wasn't born in the United States...
>
> These people are mostly racist and small-minded red-necks, Texans and West 
> Virginians, Wyoming-ians, South Carolinians, and generally people who want to 
> bring back slavery..
>
> BTW, the only job creators that these people represent are mostly the slave 
> labor camps in China, where they are conspiring with the Communist Chinese to 
> take advantage of the masses...
>
> It's so obvious to most intellent people what is going on...
>
> By diverting attention from the real issues, by inferring the 'Secret Nature 
> of President Obama's Agenda...
> They really are attempting to divert attention of the very 'Secretive Mitt 
> and Ann Romney's Religion and what about those 'Very Secret Tax Returns'...
>
> These people would rather throw food away, then give people food stamps to 
> purchase food, which otherwise would only 'Rot on the Shelf'...
> How compassionate?
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> On 08/02/2012 07:21 PM, Robert wrote:
>>> Here are some of the policies which I would characterize as 'Neo-Facist'...
>>> 1. Suppress the Opposition Vote, wherever possible...
>>> 2. Start rumors of 'Secret Muslim' connexions...by accusing Hillary's aid 
>>> and President Obama/spreading these rumors through the 'Christian Right 
>>> Wing Churches'...
>>> 3. Create 'Big Lies' in 'advertizing' and repeat those lies...over and over 
>>> again.
>>> 4. Allow the 'Elite Rich' to hide money and avoid paying taxes, while 
>>> increasing taxes on the Middle Class and the Poor..
>>> 5. Create an atmosphere of 'Homophobia'...and hatred towards that group...
>>> 6, Create an atmosphere of tension and in world affairs, thus providing for 
>>> war-mongering profits.
>>> 7. Protect the oil interests at all levels, and suppress the desire for 
>>> alternative fuels...
>>> 8. Lie about the reality of 'Global Warming'
>>> 9. Add your own observation.
>>> ~Robert
>> We can only hope the Mittiot doesn't get more Neanderthals to follow him.
>>
>
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of wgm4u
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 11:18 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
"Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

 

  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 ]
> On Behalf Of wgm4u
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:37 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 

> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
> 
> 
> Are you telling me MMY only had 2 or 3 girlfriends in his lifetime? Come
on,
> if he is who they say he is he would have been clearly exposed by now. All
> we have in ONE real liar 'er...witness, after, what 40 years??!
> 
> 
> 
> I know the names of at least six, and it's clear from the "Sexy Sadie"
file
> and other info that there were many more. I don't know where you're
getting
> "2 or 3".

Where's the beef?? No innuendo accepted

You want notarized photos? 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of wgm4u
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:37 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
> 
> 
> Are you telling me MMY only had 2 or 3 girlfriends in his lifetime? Come on,
> if he is who they say he is he would have been clearly exposed by now. All
> we have in ONE real liar 'er...witness, after, what 40 years??!
> 
>  
> 
> I know the names of at least six, and it's clear from the "Sexy Sadie" file
> and other info that there were many more. I don't know where you're getting
> "2 or 3".

Where's the beef?? No innuendo accepted

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Rush Limbaugh would be 'Foaming at the Mouth'...

[Mike Dixon]

Feel better now?

 


 From: Robert 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 10:58 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Rush Limbaugh would be 'Foaming at the Mouth'...
  

   
 
Can you imagine what someone like Rush would do...
If Michelle and Barack Obama refused to release their tax returns...

That 'Good ol' Boy' would be kind of 'Foaming at the Mouth'...
Exclaiming, 'What could he possibly be hiding, folks'...

How stupid do these 'drunk with power' bastards think we are?

BTW, you wouldn't want to have a drink with these two Mitt and Ann...
'cause they don't drink or smoke...

But, then again, if you were brought up to think that 'Black Folks' should just 
'Stay in their Place'...then the Mittster is 'Your Guy!'...

And that Ann Romney like Sarah Palin...

Sure is one hot babe! (love her wardrobe)

R.

   
  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gullible Seeker Syndrome

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> 
> On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:37 AM, turquoiseb wrote:

> > However, if the person is suffering from NPD and only *thinks*
> > that he or she is enlightened, they don't feel this sense of
> > responsibility. One of the primary symptoms of narcissism is
> > the inability to care for other people or feel responsibility
> > for them; narcissists only pretend to.
> 
> Precisely, good point, esp. in this case since RWC does
> fit quite of few of the criteria.

Not. He's made it very clear in many of his posts that he
feels an agonizing sense of responsibility for whatever
harm he did during his WTS period.

Folks, you are being deliberately fed a line of exceedingly
poisonous bullshit about Robin by these two rattlesnakes. 


> > My experience is that those who respond to narcissistic
> > charisma in one spiritual teacher will do so over and over
> > again, seemingly without learning a damned thing. And along
> > the way they'll vehemently deny that any of their decisions
> > to follow people they no longer consider good teachers were
> > flawed, or that the teachers themselves were flawed. They'll
> > trot out the "enabler language," and say that they "made
> > the right decision at the time," denying vehemently that
> > either they or the teacher in question ever made a Bad
> > Decision.
> 
> That certainly sounds like Ann, from my POV any way.

Even though Robin is the only spiritual teacher she's ever
been involved with. Right, Vaj.

Of course what Barry describes applies to *him*, in spades.

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of wgm4u
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 10:37 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
"Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque


Are you telling me MMY only had 2 or 3 girlfriends in his lifetime? Come on,
if he is who they say he is he would have been clearly exposed by now. All
we have in ONE real liar 'er...witness, after, what 40 years??!

 

I know the names of at least six, and it's clear from the "Sexy Sadie" file
and other info that there were many more. I don't know where you're getting
"2 or 3".

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gullible Seeker Syndrome

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> I'm going to chop out the specifics in your comments,
> Vaj, and reply to them as the more generic statements
> they are. This is *not* a TM-specific issue.

Nor are any of your comments at all relevant to the
Robin-specific issue, whatever shallow and superficial
resonance they may have with guru-type situations in
general.



> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > The key trick was "look at me, I'm an enlightened man"...
> 
> That's the "key trick" in almost all of these kinds of
> situations. The trick works best on communities of seekers
> in which no one ever seems to achieve the goal that they
> espouse. When people have *heard about* enlightenment 
> for many years but never experienced it themselves, and
> in many cases never seen a living embodiment of it, they
> become suckers for anyone who breezes into town wearing
> Narcissistic Personality Disorder-induced charisma, and
> just *believe* them. If you question them about it, the
> conversation usually goes like this:
> 
> Me: So how do you know that this person was enlightened?
> Them: Why, he (or she) said so, of course.
> Me: But how do you know that he (she) was telling you
> the truth?
> Them: That's easy -- the enlightened never lie.
> Me: But how do you know this to be true?
> Them: Both my former teacher and my current one said so.
> Me: But how do you know that the people saying this knew
> what they were talking about?
> Them: Because they were enlightened, silly. 
> < repeat ad nauseum >
> 
> > ...and based on that faulty information (from my POV) they 
> > preceded. I guess really the issue here is that they were 
> > part of an organisation that placed great emphasis on alleged 
> > "higher" states of consciousness...
> 
> Without ever showing anyone a legitimate example of them. 
> 
> > In such a case [claiming to be enlightened], the onus falls 
> > on the integrity, honesty and maturity of the guru, as he's 
> > taking responsibility for his students.
> 
> However, if the person is suffering from NPD and only *thinks*
> that he or she is enlightened, they don't feel this sense of
> responsibility. One of the primary symptoms of narcissism is
> the inability to care for other people or feel responsibility
> for them; narcissists only pretend to. 
> 
> > ...the problem is, 'what happens when da guru ain't 
> > enlightened?' ;-)
> 
> Or not even close? 
> 
> The problem, as I see it, is gullibility. Seekers are 
> in many cases so *desperate* for someone to tell them
> what to do to realize their own enlightenment that they
> will believe almost anyone who claims to be able to do
> that. 
> 
> They hear sales pitches like "My method is the fastest
> method ever devised for realizing enlightenment," and
> it NEVER EVEN OCCURS TO THEM to ask the obvious 
> question: "Oh yeah? Show me some of your students who 
> have become enlightened as a result of doing what you 
> told them."
> 
> > Now while it didn't go as badly as say Rev. Jones or 
> > Rajneeshpuram, I'd hope you can see that a similar seed 
> > exists in these very different circumstances. So my hope 
> > would be that we become wiser - and hopefully more 
> > compassionate in action - from seeing these spiritual 
> > pathologies acted out. Then we need not be enablers or  
> > victims any longer, just wiser to the ways of the world.
> 
> I completely agree with your use of the terms "spiritual
> pathologies" and "enablers." 
> 
> ...
> > If it wasn't real, what does that mean if we encounter similar  
> > situations later in life? Are we wiser in response to what we  
> > learned, or do we ignore what we've seen and not act in ways 
> > that are helpful?
> 
> My experience is that those who respond to narcissistic
> charisma in one spiritual teacher will do so over and over
> again, seemingly without learning a damned thing. And along
> the way they'll vehemently deny that any of their decisions
> to follow people they no longer consider good teachers were
> flawed, or that the teachers themselves were flawed. They'll 
> trot out the "enabler language," and say that they "made 
> the right decision at the time," denying vehemently that
> either they or the teacher in question ever made a Bad
> Decision. 
> 
> A psychologist friend of mine points out that this is the 
> narcissism speaking; the enablers are simply aping the mindset 
> they saw in the teacher. They picked up the narcissism from 
> them, and now act it out in the same ways they witnessed.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of wgm4u
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:51 AM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
> "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , wgm4u  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affa
> ir-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> > > 
> > > She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and 
> > > soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver 
> > > for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a 
> > > tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?
> > 
> > Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* 
> > reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into
> > Judith Bourque and a number of other women.
> > 
> > If you're looking for a "tortured soul," it seems
> > to me that it would be the person who did this while 
> > claiming to be celibate.
> 
> If MMY 'the great pretender' only nailed a couple of broads in his lifetime
> with all that money and power, he was a pretty poor Don Juan, don't cha
> think? ;-)
> 
> Come on Turq, you know you and I would be nailing them all and probably have
> a harem to boot!
> 
> That's a silly comment. He "nailed" quite a few, but he couldn't exactly go
> hog wild and yet retain secrecy. It's amazing he was able to keep it as
> secret as he did. I believe that may be why he placed such emphasis on
> secrecy and confidentiality in general. Those in positions of authority knew
> things on a need to know basis. Neil Paterson wouldn't tell you what brand
> of toothpaste he used.

Are you telling me MMY only had 2 or 3 girlfriends in his lifetime? Come on, if 
he is who they say he is he would have been clearly exposed by now.  All we 
have in ONE real liar 'er...witness, after, what 40 years??!

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of wgm4u
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 9:51 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
"Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

 

  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , wgm4u  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affa
ir-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> > 
> > She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and 
> > soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver 
> > for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a 
> > tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?
> 
> Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* 
> reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into
> Judith Bourque and a number of other women.
> 
> If you're looking for a "tortured soul," it seems
> to me that it would be the person who did this while 
> claiming to be celibate.

If MMY 'the great pretender' only nailed a couple of broads in his lifetime
with all that money and power, he was a pretty poor Don Juan, don't cha
think? ;-)

Come on Turq, you know you and I would be nailing them all and probably have
a harem to boot!

That's a silly comment. He "nailed" quite a few, but he couldn't exactly go
hog wild and yet retain secrecy. It's amazing he was able to keep it as
secret as he did. I believe that may be why he placed such emphasis on
secrecy and confidentiality in general. Those in positions of authority knew
things on a need to know basis. Neil Paterson wouldn't tell you what brand
of toothpaste he used.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Special Message for Fairfield Iowa: The Heart of Politics for America

[wgm4u]

I'll get right on it!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From Lou Valentino
> 
>  
> 
> From: LSoma@... [mailto:LSoma@...] 
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 12:39 AM
> To: LSoma@...
> Subject: Fwd: A Special Message for Fairfield Iowa: The Heart of Politics for 
> America
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
>   _  
> 
> 
> From: LSoma@...
> To: LSoma@...
> Sent: 8/2/2012 10:37:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time
> Subj: A Special Message for Fairfield Iowa: The Heart of Politics for America
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 08/03/2012
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> A special message to the Transcendental Meditation organization, the 
> Fairfield Iowa community and leaders of religious and spiritual organizations 
> worldwide,
> 
>  
> 
> Over the past 10,000 years or so a patriarchal world has dominated the 
> consciousness of humanity. 
> 
>  
> 
> Women have suffered greatly from this. Men have shown the world over and over 
> again that they cannot create world peace based on a patriarchal system.
> 
>  
> 
> A balance is necessary. As we move into astrological signatures to open up 
> portals of light to eliminate small thinking, it is vital that everyone 
> remain open to new ideas and implement them as soon as possible to avoid more 
> pain and suffering in the family of humanity.
> 
>  
> 
> Therefore, I am asking the Transcendental Meditation organization to 
> immediately train 1,000 women to chant the Vedas to represent the female side 
> of creation. 
> 
>  
> 
> This will soften the hard edges of ignorance that man has created for 
> himself. 
> 
>  
> 
> The Transcendental Meditation organization, Catholic Church (Vatican) and the 
> Brahman caste of India as well as many other religious organizations have cut 
> off the female vibration of life.
> 
>  
> 
> This creates imbalance in the subtle planes of existence and stress and 
> strain are the result. War is still breaking out here and there like in Syria.
> 
>  
> 
> The Fairfield community has let the ball drop at the mercy of the TMO. It is 
> time to act instead of claiming everything is perfect the way it is.
> 
>  
> 
> Therefore, I am asking that someone create a petition in Fairfield and get as 
> many signatures as possible to have 1,000 women chanting the Vedas as soon as 
> possible to create balance in the collective consciousness of the world.
> 
>  
> 
> Someone: Start a petition that can be handed over to the leaders of the TMO. 
> If they don't want to do this than someone there with some money can find a 
> way to start the training. 
> 
>  
> 
> And, the women do not have to be just from India.
> 
>  
> 
> Even if Mitt Romney does not pick a female VP and Hillary Clinton is still 
> not by Barack’s side in this next election, the higher intelligence's of 
> the universe will find a way to help bring in a softer energy. 
> 
>  
> 
> It is going to be a lot easier if she is invited to the dance. If she is not 
> then hell could break loose over the next several months as the adjustments 
> are being made from elsewhere than planet earth.
> 
>  
> 
> The upcoming dates of August 26th as well as September 18th (Uranus square 
> Pluto) shows a lot of stress will be released.Mark these dates on your 
> calendars. From August 17th through October 1st just about anything is 
> possible to pry open the doors of ignorance. 
> 
>  
> 
> To allow a balance of male and female energies.
> 
>  
> 
> I am always available to talk as my phone is on the top of my webpage. 
> 
>  
> 
> Wishing everyone peace, joy, perfect health in your lives.
> 
>  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Lou Valentino
> 
> www.yogavisionaries.com
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Gullible Seeker Syndrome

[Vaj]

On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:37 AM, turquoiseb wrote:


I'm going to chop out the specifics in your comments,
Vaj, and reply to them as the more generic statements
they are. This is *not* a TM-specific issue.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> The key trick was "look at me, I'm an enlightened man"...

That's the "key trick" in almost all of these kinds of
situations. The trick works best on communities of seekers
in which no one ever seems to achieve the goal that they
espouse. When people have *heard about* enlightenment
for many years but never experienced it themselves, and
in many cases never seen a living embodiment of it, they
become suckers for anyone who breezes into town wearing
Narcissistic Personality Disorder-induced charisma, and
just *believe* them. If you question them about it, the
conversation usually goes like this:

Me: So how do you know that this person was enlightened?
Them: Why, he (or she) said so, of course.
Me: But how do you know that he (she) was telling you
the truth?
Them: That's easy -- the enlightened never lie.
Me: But how do you know this to be true?
Them: Both my former teacher and my current one said so.
Me: But how do you know that the people saying this knew
what they were talking about?
Them: Because they were enlightened, silly.
< repeat ad nauseum >


In this case, there was the rather tentative "Marshy said so...well  
kinda"...until the court case when M. said "No! (he's not enlightened)".




> ...and based on that faulty information (from my POV) they
> preceded. I guess really the issue here is that they were
> part of an organisation that placed great emphasis on alleged
> "higher" states of consciousness...

Without ever showing anyone a legitimate example of them.


At that time, many of us actually believed the research which claimed  
to be examples of such changes! Little did we know that independent  
experts had, as early as the 80's, already shown most of these claims  
were wrong or very exaggerated at best. And given there was no  
transparency, no one even bothered to tell any of us about these  
independent views. We were a deliberately constructed vacuum.





> In such a case [claiming to be enlightened], the onus falls
> on the integrity, honesty and maturity of the guru, as he's
> taking responsibility for his students.

However, if the person is suffering from NPD and only *thinks*
that he or she is enlightened, they don't feel this sense of
responsibility. One of the primary symptoms of narcissism is
the inability to care for other people or feel responsibility
for them; narcissists only pretend to.


Precisely, good point, esp. in this case since RWC does fit quite of  
few of the criteria.





> ...the problem is, 'what happens when da guru ain't
> enlightened?' ;-)

Or not even close?

The problem, as I see it, is gullibility. Seekers are
in many cases so *desperate* for someone to tell them
what to do to realize their own enlightenment that they
will believe almost anyone who claims to be able to do
that.


Well and consider RWC, with his MFA had quite the stage show. In  
retrospect the demonic confrontation thing could have been straight  
out of some charismatic southern church.



They hear sales pitches like "My method is the fastest
method ever devised for realizing enlightenment," and
it NEVER EVEN OCCURS TO THEM to ask the obvious
question: "Oh yeah? Show me some of your students who
have become enlightened as a result of doing what you
told them."

> Now while it didn't go as badly as say Rev. Jones or
> Rajneeshpuram, I'd hope you can see that a similar seed
> exists in these very different circumstances. So my hope
> would be that we become wiser - and hopefully more
> compassionate in action - from seeing these spiritual
> pathologies acted out. Then we need not be enablers or
> victims any longer, just wiser to the ways of the world.

I completely agree with your use of the terms "spiritual
pathologies" and "enablers."

...
> If it wasn't real, what does that mean if we encounter similar
> situations later in life? Are we wiser in response to what we
> learned, or do we ignore what we've seen and not act in ways
> that are helpful?

My experience is that those who respond to narcissistic
charisma in one spiritual teacher will do so over and over
again, seemingly without learning a damned thing. And along
the way they'll vehemently deny that any of their decisions
to follow people they no longer consider good teachers were
flawed, or that the teachers themselves were flawed. They'll
trot out the "enabler language," and say that they "made
the right decision at the time," denying vehemently that
either they or the teacher in question ever made a Bad
Decision.


That certainly sounds like Ann, from my POV any way.

Interesting how Robin never seems to interact with her. What's up  
with that?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[Share Long]

OTOH the healing power of mud for people and animals
http://www.wellnesstimes.com/articles/experience-healing-power-mud
and
As Xeno wrote:
What I think is always clear to 'me'. But when I put it out there, that is not 
the case.
Share adds:
By which I mean swamp to me implies richness of life which is definitely not 
something negative and yes includes sadness, happiness, surfing birds, blessed 
life, sun risen, phoenix rising maybe with a little mud on wings which quickly 
dries and falls away.



 From: merudanda 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 7:27 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me
 

  
Those who let the sadness of the swamps overtake them will sink underneath the 
mud to their death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y688upqmRXo 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfTBK8xYQm8 
soon again
The sun is up, birds are everywhere
They're flying high, surfing in the air
It's nice to live when life is such a bless
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> There Being No Such Thing As Previous Lives Or Unfathomable Karma
> 
> 
> taiphoon magician morphs warm desert ed
> heart to cool oasis whoops Atlantis
> 
> the cry of horses drowning
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 2:23 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus
 God, these horses just kill me
> 
> 
>   
> yes 
> http://www.london2012.com/equestrian/event/dressage-individual/index.html 
> 
> thanks for reminder-looking forward some video too but  being quite busy and 
> cannot ignore the world-upside -down here
> here what a found-in a hurry
> Olympics 2012 profile: Carl Hester dressage 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JcrEKP3ysU 
> Edward Gal & Glock's Undercover [Netherlands]
> Nathalie zu Sayn Wittgenstein & Digby [Denmark]
> Beatrix Ferrer Salat & Delgado [Spain] (EDIT:Withdrawn pre-event--not sound)
> Juan Manuel Munoz Diaz & Fuego de Cardenas [Spain]
> Carl Hester & Uthopia [Great Britain]
> Imke Schellekens Bartels & Hunter Douglas Toots [Netherlands] (EDIT: just 
> missed out on selection!)
> Helen Langehanenberg & Damon Hill [Germany]
> Laura Bechtolsheimer
 & Mistral Hojris [Great Britain]
> Charlotte Dujardin & Valegro [Great Britain]
> Adelinde Cornelissen & Jerich Parzival [Netherlands]
> Jessica Michel & Riwera de Hus [France]
> Kristina Sprehe & Desperados [Germany]
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj999RiAcfE 
> 
> so please keep me posted
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> > 
> > Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous Dutch 
> > horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
> >
>

 

[FairfieldLife] A Special Message for Fairfield Iowa: The Heart of Politics for America

[Rick Archer]

>From Lou Valentino

 

From: ls...@aol.com [mailto:ls...@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 12:39 AM
To: ls...@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: A Special Message for Fairfield Iowa: The Heart of Politics for 
America

 

 

 


  _  


From: ls...@aol.com
To: ls...@aol.com
Sent: 8/2/2012 10:37:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: A Special Message for Fairfield Iowa: The Heart of Politics for America

 


08/03/2012

 

 

A special message to the Transcendental Meditation organization, the Fairfield 
Iowa community and leaders of religious and spiritual organizations worldwide,

 

Over the past 10,000 years or so a patriarchal world has dominated the 
consciousness of humanity. 

 

Women have suffered greatly from this. Men have shown the world over and over 
again that they cannot create world peace based on a patriarchal system.

 

A balance is necessary. As we move into astrological signatures to open up 
portals of light to eliminate small thinking, it is vital that everyone remain 
open to new ideas and implement them as soon as possible to avoid more pain and 
suffering in the family of humanity.

 

Therefore, I am asking the Transcendental Meditation organization to 
immediately train 1,000 women to chant the Vedas to represent the female side 
of creation. 

 

This will soften the hard edges of ignorance that man has created for himself. 

 

The Transcendental Meditation organization, Catholic Church (Vatican) and the 
Brahman caste of India as well as many other religious organizations have cut 
off the female vibration of life.

 

This creates imbalance in the subtle planes of existence and stress and strain 
are the result. War is still breaking out here and there like in Syria.

 

The Fairfield community has let the ball drop at the mercy of the TMO. It is 
time to act instead of claiming everything is perfect the way it is.

 

Therefore, I am asking that someone create a petition in Fairfield and get as 
many signatures as possible to have 1,000 women chanting the Vedas as soon as 
possible to create balance in the collective consciousness of the world.

 

Someone: Start a petition that can be handed over to the leaders of the TMO. If 
they don't want to do this than someone there with some money can find a way to 
start the training. 

 

And, the women do not have to be just from India.

 

Even if Mitt Romney does not pick a female VP and Hillary Clinton is still not 
by Barack’s side in this next election, the higher intelligence's of the 
universe will find a way to help bring in a softer energy. 

 

It is going to be a lot easier if she is invited to the dance. If she is not 
then hell could break loose over the next several months as the adjustments are 
being made from elsewhere than planet earth.

 

The upcoming dates of August 26th as well as September 18th (Uranus square 
Pluto) shows a lot of stress will be released.Mark these dates on your 
calendars. From August 17th through October 1st just about anything is possible 
to pry open the doors of ignorance. 

 

To allow a balance of male and female energies.

 

I am always available to talk as my phone is on the top of my webpage. 

 

Wishing everyone peace, joy, perfect health in your lives.

 

Sincerely,

Lou Valentino

www.yogavisionaries.com

 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

[Vaj]

On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:06 AM, awoelflebater wrote:

Again I have to disagree. If someone's wrong or incorrect in a  
perception whose fault is that? And who is to say they were wrong?  
Robin believed himself to have been enlightened and so did many  
others including me. Are you saying that you think Robin knew he  
wasn't enlightened the whole time and was pretending for ten years?

>
> >
> >
> > into violating that sacred space (for those involved in the dome
> > programs); I've heard their hopes and their fears, as I spoke to
> > them while they were still doing it, and afterwards.
> >
> > So what are they doing now? How are they? Did they survive? Are
> > they still curled up in the fetal position, inconsolable?
>
> I cannot say, but I would doubt that.

Me too.


Let's please keep in mind though, that for some people this type of  
trauma can last many years or even a lifetime. A recent example, in  
the context of the TMO provides an example:


http://tmfree.blogspot.com/2012/07/recovering-from-transcendental.html



>
> So you're going with an enablers tack: they survived and they're OK,
> so everything's OK, Robin's OK, I'm OK?

I'm OK, Robin appears OK but I'm thinking you have a ways to go.


Thanks, but I'm fine.



>
> >
> >
> > How do you handle this same person recommending abortion for some
> > couples "evolution"?
> >
> > Not the same as undertaking the procedure. As I said, everyone  
is a

> > free agent. Choice, Vaj, choice. No guns to anyone's head.
>
> But you ignore the key component here: enlightened advice = the
> advice to have, if you're on a liberation path. Of course the  
problem

> is, 'what happens when da guru ain't enlightened?' ;-)

And what happens when da guru is? How would it differ? Impossible  
to say. You imply that all enlightened advice results in bouncing  
babies and happy people. Life isn't like that Vaj, right?


Well hopefully it doesn't end in expulsion from college or whatever...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> > 
> > She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and 
> > soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver 
> > for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a 
> > tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?
> 
> Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* 
> reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into
> Judith Bourque and a number of other women.
> 
> If you're looking for a "tortured soul," it seems
> to me that it would be the person who did this while 
> claiming to be celibate.

If MMY 'the great pretender' only nailed a couple of broads in his lifetime 
with all that money and power, he was a pretty poor Don Juan, don't cha think? 
;-)

Come on Turq, you know you and I would be nailing them all and probably have a 
harem to boot!

[FairfieldLife] Gullible Seeker Syndrome

[turquoiseb]

I'm going to chop out the specifics in your comments,
Vaj, and reply to them as the more generic statements
they are. This is *not* a TM-specific issue.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> The key trick was "look at me, I'm an enlightened man"...

That's the "key trick" in almost all of these kinds of
situations. The trick works best on communities of seekers
in which no one ever seems to achieve the goal that they
espouse. When people have *heard about* enlightenment 
for many years but never experienced it themselves, and
in many cases never seen a living embodiment of it, they
become suckers for anyone who breezes into town wearing
Narcissistic Personality Disorder-induced charisma, and
just *believe* them. If you question them about it, the
conversation usually goes like this:

Me: So how do you know that this person was enlightened?
Them: Why, he (or she) said so, of course.
Me: But how do you know that he (she) was telling you
the truth?
Them: That's easy -- the enlightened never lie.
Me: But how do you know this to be true?
Them: Both my former teacher and my current one said so.
Me: But how do you know that the people saying this knew
what they were talking about?
Them: Because they were enlightened, silly. 
< repeat ad nauseum >

> ...and based on that faulty information (from my POV) they 
> preceded. I guess really the issue here is that they were 
> part of an organisation that placed great emphasis on alleged 
> "higher" states of consciousness...

Without ever showing anyone a legitimate example of them. 

> In such a case [claiming to be enlightened], the onus falls 
> on the integrity, honesty and maturity of the guru, as he's 
> taking responsibility for his students.

However, if the person is suffering from NPD and only *thinks*
that he or she is enlightened, they don't feel this sense of
responsibility. One of the primary symptoms of narcissism is
the inability to care for other people or feel responsibility
for them; narcissists only pretend to. 

> ...the problem is, 'what happens when da guru ain't 
> enlightened?' ;-)

Or not even close? 

The problem, as I see it, is gullibility. Seekers are 
in many cases so *desperate* for someone to tell them
what to do to realize their own enlightenment that they
will believe almost anyone who claims to be able to do
that. 

They hear sales pitches like "My method is the fastest
method ever devised for realizing enlightenment," and
it NEVER EVEN OCCURS TO THEM to ask the obvious 
question: "Oh yeah? Show me some of your students who 
have become enlightened as a result of doing what you 
told them."

> Now while it didn't go as badly as say Rev. Jones or 
> Rajneeshpuram, I'd hope you can see that a similar seed 
> exists in these very different circumstances. So my hope 
> would be that we become wiser - and hopefully more 
> compassionate in action - from seeing these spiritual 
> pathologies acted out. Then we need not be enablers or  
> victims any longer, just wiser to the ways of the world.

I completely agree with your use of the terms "spiritual
pathologies" and "enablers." 

...
> If it wasn't real, what does that mean if we encounter similar  
> situations later in life? Are we wiser in response to what we  
> learned, or do we ignore what we've seen and not act in ways 
> that are helpful?

My experience is that those who respond to narcissistic
charisma in one spiritual teacher will do so over and over
again, seemingly without learning a damned thing. And along
the way they'll vehemently deny that any of their decisions
to follow people they no longer consider good teachers were
flawed, or that the teachers themselves were flawed. They'll 
trot out the "enabler language," and say that they "made 
the right decision at the time," denying vehemently that
either they or the teacher in question ever made a Bad
Decision. 

A psychologist friend of mine points out that this is the 
narcissism speaking; the enablers are simply aping the mindset 
they saw in the teacher. They picked up the narcissism from 
them, and now act it out in the same ways they witnessed.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Man suffers from "unnatural behavior". MMY-Video

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> >
> > There is natural behavior and unnatural behavior, if you break the laws of 
> > nature (or the laws of natural behavior) you suffer.
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyPJaxF1S4w
> 
> This is rather odd. I followed this link and then looked to the right column 
> on youtube.com and the following video was listed at the top. You know the 
> algorithm attempts to bring up similar videos to what one has selected. I am 
> not making any comment here, but the question in my mind is what did the 
> algorithm find here as being similar?
> 
> http://youtu.be/UoL0Hdpwcds
> 
> Algorithms designed by Google tend to be dynamic, that is, the parameters 
> change frequently, automatically, within specific ranges, so they do not 
> always bring up the same things at different times,

Cults?? (probably).

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> 
> On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:26 AM, awoelflebater wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:11 PM, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > > So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite  
> > different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! My,  
> > oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of  
> > decorum or decency.
> > > >
> > > > I have never had the impression that Robin is "targeting"  
> > anyone. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with  
> > people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's  
> > really the purpose of this forum, is it not?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If we're honest with ourselves, and honest with the people around  
> > us, we hopefully tack close to what's actually happening, even in  
> > the most relative terms, in our life.
> > >
> > > So the question then becomes, how would you react to someone who  
> > caused friends to be expelled from college
> >
> > Only MIU could expel people.
> 
> I think the key word you're missing is "caused". RWC did not expel  
> these students, he was the cause of their expulsion.

No he didn't. MIU expelled them. The students made their own decision to do 
whatever they did in relation to Robin and MIU. What caused the expulsion was a 
combination of MIU's policy and the student's decisions to do what they did to 
defy that policy. Robin was just incidental.
> 
> > > some just before graduation, all that I talked to went on an  
> > inviolable faith that the person they put trust in was legit and  
> > worth risking their young careers, their young lives.
> >
> > The word "young" makes my eyes water. And oh, what fun they had.  
> > I'll bet a degree from MIU was worth the risk.
> 
> Again, you seem to miss the point - yet another disconnect - they did  
> not get degrees from MIU, they were expelled.

No Vaj, I was being ironic here implying a degree from MIU is not worth that 
much, not worth as much as the "fun" and adventure they had.
> 
> > >How do you react when you hear someone extolling the virtues of  
> > maintaining the meditative purity of domes, while you know and have  
> > talked to the students that were tricked
> >
> > How tricked? Everyone is a free agent. These were intelligent,  
> > sensitive, strong men. They were adventurers. Nothing in this life  
> > is without "risk".
> 
> The key trick was "look at me, I'm an enlightened man" and based on  
> that faulty information (from my POV) they preceded. I guess really  
> the issue here is that they were part of an organisation that placed  
> great emphasis on alleged "higher" states of consciousness and here  
> was RWC presenting himself as the fulfillment of that ideal, in the  
> flesh. In such a case, the onus falls on the integrity, honesty and  
> maturity of the guru, as he's taking responsibility for his students.

Again I have to disagree. If someone's wrong or incorrect in a perception whose 
fault is that? And who is to say they were wrong? Robin believed himself to 
have been enlightened and so did many others including me. Are you saying that 
you think Robin knew he wasn't enlightened the whole time and was pretending 
for ten years? 
> 
> >
> >
> > into violating that sacred space (for those involved in the dome  
> > programs); I've heard their hopes and their fears, as I spoke to  
> > them while they were still doing it, and afterwards.
> >
> > So what are they doing now? How are they? Did they survive? Are  
> > they still curled up in the fetal position, inconsolable?
> 
> I cannot say, but I would doubt that.

Me too. 
> 
> So you're going with an enablers tack: they survived and they're OK,  
> so everything's OK, Robin's OK, I'm OK?

I'm OK, Robin appears OK but I'm thinking you have a ways to go.
> 
> >
> >
> > How do you handle this same person recommending abortion for some  
> > couples "evolution"?
> >
> > Not the same as undertaking the procedure. As I said, everyone is a  
> > free agent. Choice, Vaj, choice. No guns to anyone's head.
> 
> But you ignore the key component here: enlightened advice = the  
> advice to have, if you're on a liberation path. Of course the problem  
> is, 'what happens when da guru ain't enlightened?' ;-)

And what happens when da guru is? How would it differ? Impossible to say. You 
imply that all enlightened advice results in bouncing babies and happy people. 
Life isn't like that Vaj, right?
> 
> Now while it didn't go as badly as say Rev. Jones or Rajneeshpuram,  
> I'd hope you can see that a similar seed exists in these very  
> different circumstances. So my hope would be that we become wiser -  
> and hopefully more compassionate in action - from seeing these  
> spiritual pathologies acted out. Then we need not be enablers or  
> victims any longer, just wiser to the ways of the world.
> 
> >
> > >
> > > And then there is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[awoelflebater]

I cry at the opening credits to Black Beauty Merudanda. I am no candidate for 
watching sad animal footage. (sniff, blubber)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> Those who let the sadness of the swamps overtake them will sink
> underneath the mud to their death
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y688upqmRXo
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfTBK8xYQm8
> 
> soon again
> The sun is up, birds are everywhere
> They're flying high, surfing in the air
> It's nice to live when life is such a bless
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> wrote:
> >
> > There Being No Such Thing As Previous Lives Or Unfathomable Karma
> >
> >
> > taiphoon magician morphs warm desert ed
> > heart to cool oasis whoops Atlantis
> >
> > the cry of horses drowning
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 2:23 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me
> >
> >
> > Â
> > yes
> >
> http://www.london2012.com/equestrian/event/dressage-individual/index.htm\
> l
> >
> > thanks for reminder-looking forward some video too but  being
> quite busy and cannot ignore the world-upside -down here
> > here what a found-in a hurry
> > Olympics 2012 profile: Carl Hester dressage
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JcrEKP3ysU
> > Edward Gal & Glock's Undercover [Netherlands]
> > Nathalie zu Sayn Wittgenstein & Digby [Denmark]
> > Beatrix Ferrer Salat & Delgado [Spain] (EDIT:Withdrawn pre-event--not
> sound)
> > Juan Manuel Munoz Diaz & Fuego de Cardenas [Spain]
> > Carl Hester & Uthopia [Great Britain]
> > Imke Schellekens Bartels & Hunter Douglas Toots [Netherlands] (EDIT:
> just missed out on selection!)
> > Helen Langehanenberg & Damon Hill [Germany]
> > Laura Bechtolsheimer & Mistral Hojris [Great Britain]
> > Charlotte Dujardin & Valegro [Great Britain]
> > Adelinde Cornelissen & Jerich Parzival [Netherlands]
> > Jessica Michel & Riwera de Hus [France]
> > Kristina Sprehe & Desperados [Germany]
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj999RiAcfE
> >
> > so please keep me posted
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> > >
> > > Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous
> Dutch horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

[Vaj]

On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:26 AM, awoelflebater wrote:




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
>
> On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:11 PM, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> > So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite  
different accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! My,  
oh, my, some people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of  
decorum or decency.

> >
> > I have never had the impression that Robin is "targeting"  
anyone. He is working out some ideas and exchanging them with  
people who are willing to debate or simply chat with him. That's  
really the purpose of this forum, is it not?

> >
>
>
> If we're honest with ourselves, and honest with the people around  
us, we hopefully tack close to what's actually happening, even in  
the most relative terms, in our life.

>
> So the question then becomes, how would you react to someone who  
caused friends to be expelled from college


Only MIU could expel people.


I think the key word you're missing is "caused". RWC did not expel  
these students, he was the cause of their expulsion.


> some just before graduation, all that I talked to went on an  
inviolable faith that the person they put trust in was legit and  
worth risking their young careers, their young lives.


The word "young" makes my eyes water. And oh, what fun they had.  
I'll bet a degree from MIU was worth the risk.


Again, you seem to miss the point - yet another disconnect - they did  
not get degrees from MIU, they were expelled.


>How do you react when you hear someone extolling the virtues of  
maintaining the meditative purity of domes, while you know and have  
talked to the students that were tricked


How tricked? Everyone is a free agent. These were intelligent,  
sensitive, strong men. They were adventurers. Nothing in this life  
is without "risk".


The key trick was "look at me, I'm an enlightened man" and based on  
that faulty information (from my POV) they preceded. I guess really  
the issue here is that they were part of an organisation that placed  
great emphasis on alleged "higher" states of consciousness and here  
was RWC presenting himself as the fulfillment of that ideal, in the  
flesh. In such a case, the onus falls on the integrity, honesty and  
maturity of the guru, as he's taking responsibility for his students.





into violating that sacred space (for those involved in the dome  
programs); I've heard their hopes and their fears, as I spoke to  
them while they were still doing it, and afterwards.


So what are they doing now? How are they? Did they survive? Are  
they still curled up in the fetal position, inconsolable?


I cannot say, but I would doubt that.

So you're going with an enablers tack: they survived and they're OK,  
so everything's OK, Robin's OK, I'm OK?





How do you handle this same person recommending abortion for some  
couples "evolution"?


Not the same as undertaking the procedure. As I said, everyone is a  
free agent. Choice, Vaj, choice. No guns to anyone's head.


But you ignore the key component here: enlightened advice = the  
advice to have, if you're on a liberation path. Of course the problem  
is, 'what happens when da guru ain't enlightened?' ;-)


Now while it didn't go as badly as say Rev. Jones or Rajneeshpuram,  
I'd hope you can see that a similar seed exists in these very  
different circumstances. So my hope would be that we become wiser -  
and hopefully more compassionate in action - from seeing these  
spiritual pathologies acted out. Then we need not be enablers or  
victims any longer, just wiser to the ways of the world.




>
> And then there is the demonic confrontations...

That " ..." implies so much here. Left to the reader's imagination.


Only if they don't ask or make inquiry.

Hopefully we would ask ourselves what benefit there was from it? Was  
it real? Did it represent a pathology of some sort in the guru or  
some form of direct seeing (of ultimate reality)?


If it wasn't real, what does that mean if we encounter similar  
situations later in life? Are we wiser in response to what we  
learned, or do we ignore what we've seen and not act in ways that are  
helpful?


Each person will respond very differently. For example one might  
expect someone who was found to be demonic would react strongly,  
someone who never was, less so.



>
> Then as time passes, you forget most of this, only to run into  
that same person again, weaving the same old patterns (to your  
perception) once again. What do you do then Feste?


We know what you do Vaj.


I doubt that, because most of the meaty discussion of RWC and WTS  
have not taken place on FFL. They've taken place offlist between old  
movement insiders, therapists and people who were there.




>
> If you don't get that you're his target audience Feste, then  
maybe it's because the crosshairs are placed so finely on you,  
you've missed their very presence.


OK, if I had said that I would immediately be branded a DQ

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Share: Love and Happiness

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Hmmm, men's Dome sounds way livelier than women's
> 
I think it may be the way Robert looks at things, Share. He just posted about 
"broken balls" with regard to the Olympic dressage horses. I'm not sure he 
realizes lots of the horses are mares and lots of the riders are men. So don't 
hurry over to the men's dome just yet, he could be exaggerating...
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Robert 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 12:08 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Share:  Love and Happiness
>  
> 
>   
> Many people who are committed to celebacy, would be very judgemental in 
> regards to having sex or not having sex...
> 
> Many of these people seem to have a 'Kind of Sexual Experience' with regards 
> to the 'Flying Sutra'...
> 
> Some of the sounds coming from these 'Hoppers' imitate the 'Sounds of Sex'...
> 
> They get all sweaty and make physical motions that are a lot like the humping 
> motions of Sex...
> 
> Some talk about their 'Experiences in Flying' that are similar to 
> 'Experiences of Ecstatic Sex'...
> 
> What I say, 'To Each his/her Own'...
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Emily, and same for you...
> > 
> > re Judith Bournique:  our public library carries her book and I read it 
> > about a year ago.  As I posted recently, what she said did not and does 
> > not bother me.  
> > 
> > I do feel for people who strain against their nature to be celibate in the 
> > hopes of "eternal salvation."  As my post on The Great Stupa suggests, I 
> > actually believe committed intimate partnership to be a good and healthy 
> > path.  But one that has decades of accumulated litter spoiling it.  
> > It's no wonder to me that we humans can make horrendous mistakes in this 
> > area of life.  Ho'oponopono ing on that (-: 
> > 
> > 
> > Happy listening.  This morning in the Dome I heard a hooty owl.  I 
> > felt the sound as if inside of me.  Tonight the chirping of catydids and 
> > the whir of the fan.
> > Tomorrow, who knows what sounds will fill me...          
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Emily Reyn 
> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:47 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] To Share:  Love and Happiness
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Posted before but "happiness is when you real feel good"
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsU6_eSG4k4&feature=fvwrel
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[awoelflebater]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> Oh Jesus...why oh why do these ladies...
> 
> Want to break these horses, balls...
> 
> When all they want to do is run free...
> 
> Typical Control Freaks, I'd say...

Poor Robert. Who has broken your balls? Just watch the power, the grace and the 
beauty of this dear boy...You don't get these kind of performances if the horse 
doesn't want to do it. A long time before they hit Grand Prix they would have 
imploded and exploded. But I know you're just looking for a reaction. Just 
watch the horses, you're missing something here. But you know that.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
> >
> > yes
> > http://www.london2012.com/equestrian/event/dressage-individual/index.htm\
> > l
> >  > ml>
> > 
> > thanks for reminder-looking forward some video too but  being quite busy
> > and cannot ignore the world-upside -down here
> > here what a found-in a hurry
> > Olympics 2012 profile: Carl Hester dressage
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JcrEKP3ysU
> > 
> > Edward Gal & Glock's Undercover [Netherlands]
> > Nathalie zu Sayn Wittgenstein & Digby [Denmark]
> > Beatrix Ferrer Salat & Delgado [Spain] (EDIT:Withdrawn pre-event--not
> > sound)
> > Juan Manuel Munoz Diaz & Fuego de Cardenas [Spain]
> > Carl Hester & Uthopia [Great Britain]
> > Imke Schellekens Bartels & Hunter Douglas Toots [Netherlands] (EDIT:
> > just missed out on selection!)
> > Helen Langehanenberg & Damon Hill [Germany]
> > Laura Bechtolsheimer & Mistral Hojris [Great Britain]
> > Charlotte Dujardin & Valegro [Great Britain]
> > Adelinde Cornelissen & Jerich Parzival [Netherlands]
> > Jessica Michel & Riwera de Hus [France]
> > Kristina Sprehe & Desperados [Germany]
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj999RiAcfE
> > 
> > 
> > so please keep me posted
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> > >
> > > Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous
> > Dutch horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Man suffers from "unnatural behavior". MMY-Video

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> There is natural behavior and unnatural behavior, if you break the laws of 
> nature (or the laws of natural behavior) you suffer.
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyPJaxF1S4w

This is rather odd. I followed this link and then looked to the right column on 
youtube.com and the following video was listed at the top. You know the 
algorithm attempts to bring up similar videos to what one has selected. I am 
not making any comment here, but the question in my mind is what did the 
algorithm find here as being similar?

http://youtu.be/UoL0Hdpwcds

Algorithms designed by Google tend to be dynamic, that is, the parameters 
change frequently, automatically, within specific ranges, so they do not always 
bring up the same things at different times,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
>
> Oh, awoeflebater, you are too kind . . . (When in real life
> a woman says something like that to me, I think, omg, what
> happens when SHE FINDS OUT?)

LOL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome


 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
> >
> > Feisty, you've done it again. I'm liking you more and more. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Seems a bit nutty to me, Vaj, quite honestly. It's like you've invented a 
> > > demon that no one else can see. I don't know what you mean by "weaving 
> > > the same old patterns." What patterns might those be? As for selecting a 
> > > target audience, that's what all writers (and posters here) surely do. We 
> > > all want an audience, we all want to be read. Otherwise, why bother? You 
> > > have a target audience here on FFL, too, and I don't see anything wrong 
> > > with that. But as far as your attitude to Robin is concerned, I would 
> > > have hoped that the passage of time would have softened your views. It's 
> > > nearly 30 years ago now! I can't see that Robin has done anything on FFL 
> > > that would justify the level of venom you display toward him. He's 
> > > contributed a lot to this forum. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: for those who still love and or thank Maharishi

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

Judy, I accept your analysis of this. Point on. Very clear. I retract my flawed 
argument about this. It is not always possible to discern what someone intends 
from what they say. It is *always* clear to them. What I think is always clear 
to 'me'. But when I put it out there, that is not the case.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  
> wrote:
> 
> > I was pointing out what I thought was a veiled ad hominem by
> > Judy.
> 
> It wasn't "veiled," it was right up front.
> 
> > This is not necessarily absolutely clear because normal
> > language is rather loose logically. What I did, whether it
> > was in error or not, had nothing to do with the context of
> > the argument she was having with Vaj. Logic is just a set of
> > rules, it has no content, any content will do; if the rules
> > work, deductions can be made, if not, falsehoods reveal
> > themselves. Ad hominem is an informal fallacy; strictly
> > speaking it is a kind of non sequitur.
> 
> Xeno, there is "ad hominem," and there is the "ad hominem
> fallacy." Not all ad hominems are fallacies; it depends on
> the context in which they appear. Ad hominem reasoning in
> an argument--argumentum ad hominem--is a fallacy. A negative
> personal remark not used as reasoning in an argument is not
> a fallacy, it's just a negative personal remark.
> 
> What I said to Vaj was the latter, not the former.
> 
> 
> > Precisely. Perhaps this was an impish point on my part, having 
> > received such points from Judy from time to time, my
> > interjection in her argument with Vaj might be construed to be
> > a veiled ad hominem directed at her. Judy said responding to 
> > Vaj, 'You are not in any position to complain about ad
> > hominems, poetic or otherwise'. It does not matter what
> > position he is in, he still may complain, whether it does
> > good or ill. I consider Judy's comment to be an ad hominem,
> > and just that, nothing more, nothing about context.
> 
> You said it was an ad homimen *fallacy* because you thought
> I was attempting to use it to refute his statement, "Poetic
> ad hominems are still ad hominems."
> 
> Of course that is not what I was doing. There's not a thing
> wrong with Vaj's statement, nor does what I said constitute
> an attempt at refutation. It was an observation about Vaj's
> hypocrisy, because he himself makes frequent use of ad
> hominems. It was a negative personal remark, an ad hominem,
> but not an argumentum ad hominem.
> 
> That "he still may complain" is a non sequitur. Of course
> he may, but it's hypocritical of him to do so, which was
> my point to start with.
> 
> You say "Nothing about context," but of course it *was*
> about context. It's just that you got the context wrong.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

[feste37]

Oh, awoeflebater, you are too kind . . . (When in real life a woman says 
something like that to me, I think, omg, what happens when SHE FINDS OUT?)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> Feisty, you've done it again. I'm liking you more and more. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Seems a bit nutty to me, Vaj, quite honestly. It's like you've invented a 
> > demon that no one else can see. I don't know what you mean by "weaving the 
> > same old patterns." What patterns might those be? As for selecting a target 
> > audience, that's what all writers (and posters here) surely do. We all want 
> > an audience, we all want to be read. Otherwise, why bother? You have a 
> > target audience here on FFL, too, and I don't see anything wrong with that. 
> > But as far as your attitude to Robin is concerned, I would have hoped that 
> > the passage of time would have softened your views. It's nearly 30 years 
> > ago now! I can't see that Robin has done anything on FFL that would justify 
> > the level of venom you display toward him. He's contributed a lot to this 
> > forum. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On Aug 2, 2012, at 3:11 PM, "feste37"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > So Vaj moved from the unpleasant pedophile analogy to a quite different 
> > > > accusation of criminality, all within a few hours! My, oh, my, some 
> > > > people's hatred runs so deep it knows no bounds of decorum or decency. 
> > > > 
> > > > I have never had the impression that Robin is "targeting" anyone. He is 
> > > > working out some ideas and exchanging them with people who are willing 
> > > > to debate or simply chat with him. That's really the purpose of this 
> > > > forum, is it not? 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If we're honest with ourselves, and honest with the people around us, we 
> > > hopefully tack close to what's actually happening, even in the most 
> > > relative terms, in our life.
> > > 
> > > So the question then becomes, how would you react to someone who caused 
> > > friends to be expelled from college, some just before graduation, all 
> > > that I talked to went on an inviolable faith that the person they put 
> > > trust in was legit and worth risking their young careers, their young 
> > > lives. How do you react when you hear someone extolling the virtues of 
> > > maintaining the meditative purity of domes, while you know and have 
> > > talked to the students that were tricked into violating that sacred space 
> > > (for those involved in the dome programs); I've heard their hopes and 
> > > their fears, as I spoke to them while they were still doing it, and 
> > > afterwards. How do you handle this same person recommending abortion for 
> > > some couples "evolution"? 
> > > 
> > > And then there is the demonic confrontations...
> > > 
> > > Then as time passes, you forget most of this, only to run into that same 
> > > person again, weaving the same old patterns (to your perception) once 
> > > again. What do you do then Feste?
> > > 
> > > If you don't get that you're his target audience Feste, then maybe it's 
> > > because the crosshairs are placed so finely on you, you've missed their 
> > > very presence.
> > > 
> > > > I like Robin. I think he is a good guy. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I would think you two (and many here) share some similar or even same 
> > > sentimental moments. R's sentimentality should appeal to many TM folk.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[merudanda]

Those who let the sadness of the swamps overtake them will sink
underneath the mud to their death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y688upqmRXo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfTBK8xYQm8

soon again
The sun is up, birds are everywhere
They're flying high, surfing in the air
It's nice to live when life is such a bless
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
wrote:
>
> There Being No Such Thing As Previous Lives Or Unfathomable Karma
>
>
> taiphoon magician morphs warm desert ed
> heart to cool oasis whoops Atlantis
>
> the cry of horses drowning
>
>
>
> 
>  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 2:23 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me
>
>
> Â
> yes
>
http://www.london2012.com/equestrian/event/dressage-individual/index.htm\
l
>
> thanks for reminder-looking forward some video too but  being
quite busy and cannot ignore the world-upside -down here
> here what a found-in a hurry
> Olympics 2012 profile: Carl Hester dressage
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JcrEKP3ysU
> Edward Gal & Glock's Undercover [Netherlands]
> Nathalie zu Sayn Wittgenstein & Digby [Denmark]
> Beatrix Ferrer Salat & Delgado [Spain] (EDIT:Withdrawn pre-event--not
sound)
> Juan Manuel Munoz Diaz & Fuego de Cardenas [Spain]
> Carl Hester & Uthopia [Great Britain]
> Imke Schellekens Bartels & Hunter Douglas Toots [Netherlands] (EDIT:
just missed out on selection!)
> Helen Langehanenberg & Damon Hill [Germany]
> Laura Bechtolsheimer & Mistral Hojris [Great Britain]
> Charlotte Dujardin & Valegro [Great Britain]
> Adelinde Cornelissen & Jerich Parzival [Netherlands]
> Jessica Michel & Riwera de Hus [France]
> Kristina Sprehe & Desperados [Germany]
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj999RiAcfE
>
> so please keep me posted
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> >
> > Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous
Dutch horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Go pink!

[Share Long]

Barry wrote:  any woman over the age of six wearing that color is to be avoided 
like the plague.

My ques:  females aged 7 to 18 age of consent shouldn't wear anaphrodisiac pink 
because...?




 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 6:50 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Go pink!
 

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdFkWQNY_nU
> 
> Do women really like that colour? I mean REALLY?
> Yuck! :/

A consistent topic of conversation among guys, usually
followed by hearty laughter and much rolling of the eyes,
is women who dress in pink. The general consensus is 
that it's a color that just SCREAMS "I'm still a bratty
little girl" and that any woman over the age of six 
wearing that color is to be avoided like the plague.

It's considered by most guys I've met as the polar 
opposite of sexy, a virtual anaphrodisiac. Pink is the
saltpeter or bromide of the color spectrum.  :-)


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affair-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html
> 
> She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and 
> soul of MMY's reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver 
> for her cheap book?, is Judith Bourque MMY's Judas? or a 
> tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?

Seems to me that the person who destroyed his *own* 
reputation was the guy who plunged his dick deep into
Judith Bourque and a number of other women.

If you're looking for a "tortured soul," it seems
to me that it would be the person who did this while 
claiming to be celibate.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Go pink!

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdFkWQNY_nU
> 
> Do women really like that colour? I mean REALLY?
> Yuck! :/

A consistent topic of conversation among guys, usually
followed by hearty laughter and much rolling of the eyes,
is women who dress in pink. The general consensus is 
that it's a color that just SCREAMS "I'm still a bratty
little girl" and that any woman over the age of six 
wearing that color is to be avoided like the plague.

It's considered by most guys I've met as the polar 
opposite of sexy, a virtual anaphrodisiac. Pink is the
saltpeter or bromide of the color spectrum.  :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] 2K Yffers??

[Share Long]

Perhaps Robert could report on alleged quacking in men's Dome?




 From: cardemaister 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 1:07 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2K Yffers??
 

  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&v=gE2OjvyJmjE&NR=1


 

[FairfieldLife] P H A N T A S T I C C L I P > > > Students at Detroit art school use T M

[merlin]

P H A N T A S T I C    C L I P    > > >


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L57zhEyJmg
Students at Detroit art school 

use meditation
 to cope with stress . . . . 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[Share Long]

There Being No Such Thing As Previous Lives Or Unfathomable Karma


taiphoon magician morphs warm desert ed
heart to cool oasis whoops Atlantis

the cry of horses drowning




 From: merudanda 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 2:23 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me
 

  
yes 
http://www.london2012.com/equestrian/event/dressage-individual/index.html 

thanks for reminder-looking forward some video too but  being quite busy and 
cannot ignore the world-upside -down here
here what a found-in a hurry
Olympics 2012 profile: Carl Hester dressage 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JcrEKP3ysU 
Edward Gal & Glock's Undercover [Netherlands]
Nathalie zu Sayn Wittgenstein & Digby [Denmark]
Beatrix Ferrer Salat & Delgado [Spain] (EDIT:Withdrawn pre-event--not sound)
Juan Manuel Munoz Diaz & Fuego de Cardenas [Spain]
Carl Hester & Uthopia [Great Britain]
Imke Schellekens Bartels & Hunter Douglas Toots [Netherlands] (EDIT: just 
missed out on selection!)
Helen Langehanenberg & Damon Hill [Germany]
Laura Bechtolsheimer & Mistral Hojris [Great Britain]
Charlotte Dujardin & Valegro [Great Britain]
Adelinde Cornelissen & Jerich Parzival [Netherlands]
Jessica Michel & Riwera de Hus [France]
Kristina Sprehe & Desperados [Germany]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj999RiAcfE 

so please keep me posted


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> 
> Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous Dutch 
> horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
>

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Video Interview: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi "Celibate" Guru had a love affair - Judith Bourque

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> http://www.liloumace.com/Maharishi-Mahesh-Yogi-Celibate-Guru-had-a-love-affa
> ir-Judith-Bourque_a2078.html

She smiles as she plunges the dagger deep into the heart and soul of MMY's 
reputation, and for what?, a few coins of silver for her cheap book?, is Judith 
Bourque MMY's Judas? or a tormented soul hiding beneath flower covered dresses?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Go pink!

[Share Long]

Well, speaking only for myself, I'd say there are shades of pink that are less 
yucky than some others.  And also, I think the color pink, due to the "magic" 
of branding, etc. has come to be associated with the "fight" against breast 
cancer.  




 From: cardemaister 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 2:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Go pink!
 

  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdFkWQNY_nU

Do women really like that colour? I mean REALLY?
Yuck! :/


 

[FairfieldLife] Russia moves nuclear missiles into Cuba

[Vaj]

"In 2001 I, as the President of the Russian Federation and the  
supreme commander, deemed it advantageous to withdraw the radio- 
electronic center Lourdes from Cuba. In exchange for this, George  
Bush, the then U.S. president, has assured me that this decision  
would become the final confirmation that the Cold War was over and  
both of our states, getting rid of the relics of the Cold War, will  
start building a new relationship based on cooperation and  
transparency. In particular, Bush has convinced me that the U.S.  
missile defense system will never be deployed in Eastern Europe.


 The Russian Federation has fulfilled all terms of the agreement.  
And even more. I shut down not only the Cuban Lourdes but also Kamran  
in Vietnam. I shut them down because I gave my word of honor. I, like  
a man, has kept my word. What have the Americans done? The Americans  
are not responsible for their own words. It is no secret that in  
recent years, the U.S. created a buffer zone around Russia, involving  
in this process not only the countries of Central Europe, but also  
the Baltic states, Ukraine and the Caucasus. The only response to  
this could be an asymmetric expansion of the Russian military  
presence abroad, particularly in Cuba. In Cuba, there are convenient  
bays for our reconnaissance and warships, a network of the so-called  
"jump airfields." With the full consent of the Cuban leadership, on  
May 11 of this year, our country has not only resumed work in the  
electronic center of Lourdes, but also placed the latest mobile  
strategic NUCLEAR MISSILES (emphasis added) "Oak" on the island. They  
did not want to do it the amicable way, now let them deal with this,"  
Putin said."


Full article:

http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/01-08-2012/121804- 
russia_army_base-0/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Share: Love and Happiness

[Share Long]

Hmmm, men's Dome sounds way livelier than women's




 From: Robert 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 12:08 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Share:  Love and Happiness
 

  
Many people who are committed to celebacy, would be very judgemental in regards 
to having sex or not having sex...

Many of these people seem to have a 'Kind of Sexual Experience' with regards to 
the 'Flying Sutra'...

Some of the sounds coming from these 'Hoppers' imitate the 'Sounds of Sex'...

They get all sweaty and make physical motions that are a lot like the humping 
motions of Sex...

Some talk about their 'Experiences in Flying' that are similar to 'Experiences 
of Ecstatic Sex'...

What I say, 'To Each his/her Own'...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Emily, and same for you...
> 
> re Judith Bournique:  our public library carries her book and I read it 
> about a year ago.  As I posted recently, what she said did not and does not 
> bother me.  
> 
> I do feel for people who strain against their nature to be celibate in the 
> hopes of "eternal salvation."  As my post on The Great Stupa suggests, I 
> actually believe committed intimate partnership to be a good and healthy 
> path.  But one that has decades of accumulated litter spoiling it.  It's no 
> wonder to me that we humans can make horrendous mistakes in this area of 
> life.  Ho'oponopono ing on that (-: 
> 
> 
> Happy listening.  This morning in the Dome I heard a hooty owl.  I felt the 
> sound as if inside of me.  Tonight the chirping of catydids and the whir of 
> the fan.
> Tomorrow, who knows what sounds will fill me...          
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Emily Reyn 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:47 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] To Share:  Love and Happiness
> 
> 
>   
> Posted before but "happiness is when you real feel good"
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsU6_eSG4k4&feature=fvwrel
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Man suffers from "unnatural behavior". MMY-Video

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> Would 'Breaking the Law of Nature' also relate to breaking the 'Universal Law 
> of Gravity'...which apparently 'Holds the Very Universe Together?'...

Of course, if it were possible,
 
> How can you say, you want to 'Attune to all the Laws of Nature' while 
> claiming to negate the 'Law of Gravity?'...

???

[FairfieldLife] 'Don't Judge 'Pussy Riot' too harshly, Putin says'...

[Robert]

http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/08/02/oly-putin-day-idINL6E8J2E5720120802

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[Robert]

Oh Jesus...why oh why do these ladies...

Want to break these horses, balls...

When all they want to do is run free...

Typical Control Freaks, I'd say...



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> yes
> http://www.london2012.com/equestrian/event/dressage-individual/index.htm\
> l
>  ml>
> 
> thanks for reminder-looking forward some video too but  being quite busy
> and cannot ignore the world-upside -down here
> here what a found-in a hurry
> Olympics 2012 profile: Carl Hester dressage
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JcrEKP3ysU
> 
> Edward Gal & Glock's Undercover [Netherlands]
> Nathalie zu Sayn Wittgenstein & Digby [Denmark]
> Beatrix Ferrer Salat & Delgado [Spain] (EDIT:Withdrawn pre-event--not
> sound)
> Juan Manuel Munoz Diaz & Fuego de Cardenas [Spain]
> Carl Hester & Uthopia [Great Britain]
> Imke Schellekens Bartels & Hunter Douglas Toots [Netherlands] (EDIT:
> just missed out on selection!)
> Helen Langehanenberg & Damon Hill [Germany]
> Laura Bechtolsheimer & Mistral Hojris [Great Britain]
> Charlotte Dujardin & Valegro [Great Britain]
> Adelinde Cornelissen & Jerich Parzival [Netherlands]
> Jessica Michel & Riwera de Hus [France]
> Kristina Sprehe & Desperados [Germany]
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj999RiAcfE
> 
> 
> so please keep me posted
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
> >
> > Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous
> Dutch horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Go pink!

[cardemaister]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdFkWQNY_nU

Do women really like that colour? I mean REALLY?
Yuck! :/

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Robin Carlsen Story

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> Feisty, you've done it again. I'm liking you more and more. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Seems a bit nutty to me, Vaj, quite honestly. It's like you've invented a 
> > demon that no one else can see. I don't know what you mean by "weaving the 
> > same old patterns." What patterns might those be? As for selecting a target 
> > audience, that's what all writers (and posters here) surely do. We all want 
> > an audience, we all want to be read. Otherwise, why bother? You have a 
> > target audience here on FFL, too, and I don't see anything wrong with that. 
> > But as far as your attitude to Robin is concerned, I would have hoped that 
> > the passage of time would have softened your views. It's nearly 30 years 
> > ago now! I can't see that Robin has done anything on FFL that would justify 
> > the level of venom you display toward him. He's contributed a lot to this 
> > forum. 


Same with the Turq-fellow, still obsessing with history 30-40 years back in 
time. What is it with the practise of these Buddhists that prevent them from 
moving on, where's the dynamism ?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jesus God, these horses just kill me

[merudanda]

yes
http://www.london2012.com/equestrian/event/dressage-individual/index.htm\
l


thanks for reminder-looking forward some video too but  being quite busy
and cannot ignore the world-upside -down here
here what a found-in a hurry
Olympics 2012 profile: Carl Hester dressage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JcrEKP3ysU

Edward Gal & Glock's Undercover [Netherlands]
Nathalie zu Sayn Wittgenstein & Digby [Denmark]
Beatrix Ferrer Salat & Delgado [Spain] (EDIT:Withdrawn pre-event--not
sound)
Juan Manuel Munoz Diaz & Fuego de Cardenas [Spain]
Carl Hester & Uthopia [Great Britain]
Imke Schellekens Bartels & Hunter Douglas Toots [Netherlands] (EDIT:
just missed out on selection!)
Helen Langehanenberg & Damon Hill [Germany]
Laura Bechtolsheimer & Mistral Hojris [Great Britain]
Charlotte Dujardin & Valegro [Great Britain]
Adelinde Cornelissen & Jerich Parzival [Netherlands]
Jessica Michel & Riwera de Hus [France]
Kristina Sprehe & Desperados [Germany]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj999RiAcfE


so please keep me posted


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater 
wrote:
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> http://www.dressage-news.com/?p=17028
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> Carl Hester rode the top scoring ride today for Britain. Fabulous
Dutch horse. Wish I had the video to post, but alas.
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