[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 LOL! thank you for playing along! Splendid! 
 
 you are joking about Barry's age?? not that I want to prolong this, but can 
 anyone else vouch for authfriend's opinion that Barry is 66 or 67?!?! 
 
 Mr. Barry, are you a professional actor, perhaps?
 
 In other universal news, 42.
 

No joke, Doc. Barry is an old fart, easily mistaken for a young jackass.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Hello - I am new on here. I have lurked for a few weeks. (I learned TM a 
   few years ago.) If I may comment, and ask a question? There seems to be a 
   lot of different age groups represented here - and I sense Barry is one 
   of the younger ones, making the same sweeping generalizations, and having 
   the same glorious, naive dreams of youth. So, The Doctor inquires, why 
   not let him grow up like the rest of us have? Cut him a break already --
  
  Hi, Doctor, welcome to the fray. Barry's actually 67, I
  believe, or maybe 66, so you might want to amend your
  inquiry. ;-)
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'All can Vote in Iraq/but not in America?'

2012-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 Robert,
 
 This is an interesting theory.  You should notify your voting officials and 
 the Democratic party representatives in your city.

It's not just a theory, John, it's happening in a number
of different states and has been reported extensively in
the media. All the party people, Republicans and Democrats,
know about it.



 
 JR
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
 
  Many Republican ruled States have issued new laws that require state issued 
  I.D.'s to vote...
  Some older people and people who don't drive in cities like Philly, don't 
  have such ID's and it's hard for them to get...
  This is one way the Republicans won in 2004, for example in Ohio; where 
  thousands of people had to wait in line for hours, because of inadequate 
  voting hours and machines to take there votes...
  This is a big problem in this years election, as the Republicans have 
  decided that voter suppression gives them the best chance of winning...
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   Can you give us a source for your statement?  We would like to know who 
   is suppressing what group from voting?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
   
How strange! We fight a war in Iraq and make sure all can vote; while 
suppressing the vote here...

Voter suppression will be especially bad in Philadelphia, where this 
crazy country got started...

Strange days ahead in Amerika...
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread John
[San Francisco Chronicle News Bulletin]

There is a guy who claimed today that he dreamt Jim Carrey, the comedian, has 
become a dictator of the USA.  He is now under investigation.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  Dan,
  
  You realize that this is slanderous and cowardly. And although 
  it does not affect me, I would say that it is grounds for 
  suspension from the group. That would be my recommendation.  
  You are, what's called in the trade, a coward, Dan. A coward 
  is someone who resorts to innuendo when they have nothing 
  to back up their accusations.
 
 7ray, I'd say that Dan just drops right in 
 lately to the general level of obsession and
 insanity that Fairfield Life has devolved to.
 
 Fascinating that my done-for-fun satire yesterday
 about me and Vaj and Curtis being designated as
 Schedule I drugs because people become so obsessed
 with us that they literally become addicted to the
 obsession was proven so incredibly Right On, eh?
 
 As for grounds for suspension, quite frankly I
 think that you're dreaming. Rick is clearly asleep 
 at the wheel, and either doesn't care that the 
 forum he created has become a refuge for crazy
 people, or he really doesn't get it. 
 
 From my point of view, he has now allowed at least
 three certifiably mentally ill people to post here, 
 people who are in desperate need of either therapy or
 commitment to a mental institution. Rick doesn't 
 seem to even notice. Maybe that has something to
 do with the people he interviews as everyday
 enlightened role models. He's lost touch with
 reality, as perceived by most of the world.
 
 He also doesn't seem to notice that over the years
 the quirkiness quotient surrounding TM and the
 TMO has grown so huge that these mentally ill people 
 are not being recognized as the mentally ill people 
 they are. Instead, people who on any other forum 
 would instantly recognize them for what they are 
 and either compassionately ignore them or actively
 encourage them to get help instead *encourage their 
 craziness*. 
 
 They *go out of their way* to get these already
 mentally ill people to become more so. 
 
 And in the process become a little less sane 
 themselves, with every post. 
 
 Do you remember how many people reacted when Ravi
 *first* showed up here? Exactly as I suggest above.
 They were CONCERNED about him, afraid that he was
 having a breakdown, afraid that he'd do harm either
 to himself or his wife, and urging him to get some
 kind of professional help. 
 
 Now they treat him as if he's NORMAL, and *encourage*
 him to act out even more. They do the same thing 
 with Robin, and more recently with Dan Friedman.
 
 Obsessing on another person to the point that 
 people do it on this forum is *not* normal. The
 only even remotely benevolent way I can see the
 phenomenon is that the people engaged in it --
 over a dozen of them, now -- just Don't Have 
 Lives, and this behavior has taken the place of 
 what other, more sane people do for fun and 
 entertainment.
 
 But it really is past the point of funny or enter-
 taining now. You've got people here who think it
 is NORMAL for someone to threaten another person
 with physical harm because they embarrassed them
 in front of their wife a year and a half ago. 
 
 I honestly think that a lot of it really *IS*
 attributable to the Cult Experience. Those who
 have come to believe that their behavior on FFL
 is NORMAL are comparing it to levels of craziness
 they've seen around them in other TMers for 
 decades now, and come to take for granted. They 
 don't see anything the least bit wrong with 
 becoming this obsessive, or acting out one's 
 obsessions in this way. 
 
 Thanks for occasionally being one of the relatively
 sane voices here, Steve. You're definitely in the 
 minority these days, and that's a compliment.





[FairfieldLife] Re: 'All can Vote in Iraq/but not in America?'

2012-08-19 Thread John
Judy,

It's a fascinating case if it's proven.  It would certainly be akin to a 
detective story relating to the nefarious Illuminati.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Robert,
  
  This is an interesting theory.  You should notify your voting officials and 
  the Democratic party representatives in your city.
 
 It's not just a theory, John, it's happening in a number
 of different states and has been reported extensively in
 the media. All the party people, Republicans and Democrats,
 know about it.
 
 
 
  
  JR
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
  
   Many Republican ruled States have issued new laws that require state 
   issued I.D.'s to vote...
   Some older people and people who don't drive in cities like Philly, don't 
   have such ID's and it's hard for them to get...
   This is one way the Republicans won in 2004, for example in Ohio; where 
   thousands of people had to wait in line for hours, because of inadequate 
   voting hours and machines to take there votes...
   This is a big problem in this years election, as the Republicans have 
   decided that voter suppression gives them the best chance of winning...
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
Can you give us a source for your statement?  We would like to know who 
is suppressing what group from voting?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:

 How strange! We fight a war in Iraq and make sure all can vote; while 
 suppressing the vote here...
 
 Voter suppression will be especially bad in Philadelphia, where this 
 crazy country got started...
 
 Strange days ahead in Amerika...

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Movie review: Total Recall - the 2012 version

2012-08-19 Thread turquoiseb
Philip K. Dick had a brain full of odd but wonderful 
ideas. Unfortunately, the cinema has not always been
kind to them. Possibly the best example of taking one
of his stories and running with it is Blade Runner,
but the list of truly admirable efforts kinda stops 
there.

Minority Report was a special effects-laden snore,
Next was so horribly miscast that it was near to
impossible to focus on its good points, and Paycheck
barely even deserves to be mentioned. The only film
made from a PKD film that I thought was pretty good
was the little-seen 2001 Impostor, and that was
mainly because Gary Sinise was tremendous in it.

As for the first film based (loosely) on PKD's short
story We Can Remember It For You Wholesale, that
was actually kinda enjoyable because Ahnold's 
general cluelessness and constant I'm out of my
depth here acting fit what his character was going
through. It's a challenging thing discovering that
you're not who you thought you were, and Ahnold 
almost pulled that off in the 1990 version of Total
Recall.

The new 2012 version keeps a little of PKD's original
plot, the image of a woman with three breasts, and
even throws in a clever in-joke reference to the 
previous film (if you see it, there is a scene where
Douglas Quaid/Hauser is going through a checkpoint
scanner, and the woman in front of him in line is
the same woman from the 1990 film). The new film
loses the whole Mars thang (and good riddance) and
replaces it with an Earth devastated by chemical
warfare, with only two livable areas -- the UK and
Australia. They are connected by some sort of tunnel
mechanism that serfs from the UK are required to 
hop into to commute through the Earth to work in
The Colony. It's called The Fall, presumably because
it sorta falls through the Earth and comes up on
the other side. The fact that the other side of the
Earth from the UK is in the middle of the Pacific 
Ocean and not in Australia shouldn't cause you any
disbelief -- this is science fiction, remember, and
you're supposed to suspend disbelief while watch-
ing it.

Bzzzt. That's exactly what is wrong with the
2012 Total Recall. You have to suspend disbelief
FAR too much, because so little of it makes sense.
Good science fiction is internally consistent, and
even if it makes up new rules for the environment
it imagines, it has to stay true to them, and try
to make them *at least* be slightly plausible.
Simply not happening in the new version.

It's basically a non-stop action film, a kind of
video game on steroids, aimed (one must assume) at
the kind of adolescent audience (it *is* rated 
PG-13, after all) who have rotted their brains away
by staring at computer screens and trying to kill
as many video bad guys as possible. You're not 
supposed to notice that much of the action is
physically impossible, and that heat and G-forces
would have turned our hero into something looking
a lot like strawberry jam in the first reel.

Colin Farrell is earnest and in some films, given
enough to chew on as an actor to demonstrate it.
This is not one of those films. Kate Beckinsale
does a good job of being a bitch, and Jessica Biel
does a good job of what she's good at -- being
beautiful. Bryan Cranston is all but wasted in
the part of Cohaagen. He probably took the role
because he could fly in for a couple of days and
shoot all of his scenes and then go back to
Breaking Bad, and quite frankly, he might have
been able to deliver a better performance (given
the lines he had to deliver) by staying home 
and *literally* phoning in his performance.

Was there anything GOOD about the movie? Absolutely.
If you're into non-stop action, and don't want much
else in a movie, this is your movie. The sets are
stunning, in a Blade Runner kind of way, and
create fascinating visions of both the UK and
Australia in this not-so-happy future era. 

For many people, this would be enough. For me, not
so much. And I have to believe that Philip K. Dick
himself is turning in his grave right about now,
thinking Oh NO! Not another one. What is so hard
about taking a minor masterpiece and just trans-
lating it to the screen, without trying to 'improve'
it by dumbing it down? 

I shudder to think what Hollywood is going to do
with the upcoming Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said
and Ubik. The latter -- a science fiction novel
based on the Tibetan Book Of The Dead -- deserves 
a faithful translation to the screen. I think we all
know that it isn't going to get one.




[FairfieldLife] OT: SaSTamaM saptamam aSTamam an.gam ca! Part 1

2012-08-19 Thread cardemaister

Almost everyone even up in Minnesota might well be
aware that Patañjali's system is called aSTân.ga-yoga.
(aSTa = eight; an.ga [ang-ga] = limb).

The SaSTamam (6th) an.gam[1] is called dhaaraNaa.

The saptamam (7th) an.gam is called dhyaanam

The aSTamam (8th)an.gam is called samaadhiH.

These three an.gas are called 'antara' (internal):

(III 7) trayam antaran.gam puurvebhyaH.

Taimni:

The three are internal in relation to the preceding ones.

These three an.ga-s are obviously Patañjali's method
of producing the infamous yogic siddhi-s, like e.g. Yffing!

Together those three an.ga-s are called saMyama! (~~ sañyama or perhaps even 
almost like 'sigh-yama'!)



1. In this paradigm of nouns, the
ending of the nominative/accusative singular is -m!



[FairfieldLife] Re: 'All can Vote in Iraq/but not in America?'

2012-08-19 Thread John
Judy,

It's past my bedtime over here.  As such, I rest my case and let my dream state 
resolve this.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Judy,
  
  It's a fascinating case if it's proven.
 
 John, you don't seem to be getting it. This is common knowledge
 among anybody who's paying attention to politics. There isn't
 anything to be proven.
 
 Jeez, look at a newspaper now and then, willya?
 
  It would certainly be akin to a detective story relating to
  the nefarious Illuminati.
 
 No, it wouldn't. It's just your traditional racist politics
 from the GOP. It's a new form of poll tax. There wasn't
 anything in the poll tax laws as written that identified
 who they were designed to keep from voting, but there wasn't
 any question they were aimed at black people (and poor
 white people were disenfranchised as well).
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
   
Robert,

This is an interesting theory.  You should notify your voting officials 
and the Democratic party representatives in your city.
   
   It's not just a theory, John, it's happening in a number
   of different states and has been reported extensively in
   the media. All the party people, Republicans and Democrats,
   know about it.
   
   
   

JR



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:

 Many Republican ruled States have issued new laws that require state 
 issued I.D.'s to vote...
 Some older people and people who don't drive in cities like Philly, 
 don't have such ID's and it's hard for them to get...
 This is one way the Republicans won in 2004, for example in Ohio; 
 where thousands of people had to wait in line for hours, because of 
 inadequate voting hours and machines to take there votes...
 This is a big problem in this years election, as the Republicans have 
 decided that voter suppression gives them the best chance of 
 winning...
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  Can you give us a source for your statement?  We would like to know 
  who is suppressing what group from voting?
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
  
   How strange! We fight a war in Iraq and make sure all can vote; 
   while suppressing the vote here...
   
   Voter suppression will be especially bad in Philadelphia, where 
   this crazy country got started...
   
   Strange days ahead in Amerika...
  
 

   
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Doctor Dumbass,

Don't you let King Baby Barry steal my glory - I am the the youngest here -
I could be wrong.

Anyway, King Baby is indeed in his 60's as Judy says, however his notoriety
on this list is not because of his physical age but his emotional age, -
there are lot of varying opinions, bitter battles, lot of mud slinging,
slandering, all kinds of drama surrounding discussions on his emotional
maturity, but even bitter opponents, experts on both sides of the aisle
agree it's between 6 to 9.

Welcome to the list.


On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 **


 LOL! thank you for playing along! Splendid!

 you are joking about Barry's age?? not that I want to prolong this, but
 can anyone else vouch for authfriend's opinion that Barry is 66 or 67?!?!

 Mr. Barry, are you a professional actor, perhaps?

 In other universal news, 42.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Hello - I am new on here. I have lurked for a few weeks. (I learned TM
 a few years ago.) If I may comment, and ask a question? There seems to be a
 lot of different age groups represented here - and I sense Barry is one of
 the younger ones, making the same sweeping generalizations, and having the
 same glorious, naive dreams of youth. So, The Doctor inquires, why not let
 him grow up like the rest of us have? Cut him a break already --
 
  Hi, Doctor, welcome to the fray. Barry's actually 67, I
  believe, or maybe 66, so you might want to amend your
  inquiry. ;-)
 

  



[FairfieldLife] Re: OT: SaSTamaM saptamam aSTamam an.gam ca! Part 1

2012-08-19 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 Almost everyone even up in Minnesota might well be
 aware that Patañjali's system is called aSTân.ga-yoga.
 (aSTa = eight; an.ga [ang-ga] = limb).
 
 The SaSTamam (6th) an.gam[1] is called dhaaraNaa.

Ooops! SaSThama, of course...






[FairfieldLife] Quasi-yffing Nokia!

2012-08-19 Thread cardemaister

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/finn-hurls-olympic-distance-with-old-nokia-in-phone-throwing-competition/article4488023/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Strange Cosmic Ride on a Municipal Bus

2012-08-19 Thread turquoiseb
I think this helps to explain why John was unaware that
there is a concerted effort going on in America to 
disenfranchise voters. It took him three stops to 
realize that the door of the bus he was on wasn't going
to open, and to say something about it.  :-)

It's not just the voter ID tactic being used. The more
insidious attempt to disenfranchise voters has been going
on for a number of years, successfully and out of sight.
It involves quietly changing the nature of certain crimes
from misdemeanors to felonies.

Why would someone do this -- to crimes such as simple
possession of marijuana, or protesting at rallies without a 
permit from police (who weren't going to issue the permit
in the first place)? Simple. In most states, if you have
been convicted of a felony, you lose the right to vote.
Forever. No appeal. 

The vast majority of people convicted of these recently-
converted-to-felony crimes are minorities, who stat-
istically vote Democratic. Nationwide, over two million
African-Americans (13%) have lost the right to vote.
Two percent of *all* Americans (or 3.9 million) have
lost the right to vote for this reason. 

And people like John are still standing at the door of
their buses, waiting for them to open.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:

 After doing some business in downtown SF today, I went back h
 ome taking the bus.  The bus was full of people.  When I got 
 to my stop, I stood in front of the exit door to get off.  
 But the door didn't open.  
 
 So, I had to pull the stop chord again for the next bus stop.  
 When the bus got to the next stop, I stood in front of the 
 door and shook it.  Once again, the door didn't open and 
 the bus proceeded on its route.
 
 Suspecting that there was something wrong, I walked to the 
 front of the long articulated bus and told the bus driver 
 about my problem.  I politely told him that there was something 
 wrong with the exit door of the bus.  Although he did not say 
 anything, I heard him heave a sigh that sounded more like he 
 was seething with anger.  The front door opened and I got off 
 the bus.
 
 JR





[FairfieldLife] Re: OT: SaSTamaM saptamam aSTamam an.gam ca! Part 1

2012-08-19 Thread Buck
Patanjali's Mindful Transcendental Meditation  
aSTân.ga-yoga.
(aSTa = eight; an.ga [ang-ga] = limb 

DhaaraNaa  
dhyaanam 
samaadhiH 

 These three an.gas are called 'antara' (internal): 
(III 7) trayam antaran.gam puurvebhyaH. 
The three are internal in relation to the preceding ones. 
 (MTM)





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 Almost everyone even up in Minnesota might well be
 aware that Patañjali's system is called aSTân.ga-yoga.
 (aSTa = eight; an.ga [ang-ga] = limb).
 
 The SaSTamam (6th) an.gam[1] is called dhaaraNaa.
 
 The saptamam (7th) an.gam is called dhyaanam
 
 The aSTamam (8th)an.gam is called samaadhiH.
 
 These three an.gas are called 'antara' (internal):
 
 (III 7) trayam antaran.gam puurvebhyaH.
 
 Taimni:
 
 The three are internal in relation to the preceding ones.
 
 These three an.ga-s are obviously Patañjali's method
 of producing the infamous yogic siddhi-s, like e.g. Yffing!
 
 Together those three an.ga-s are called saMyama! (~~ sañyama or perhaps even 
 almost like 'sigh-yama'!)
 
 
 
 1. In this paradigm of nouns, the
 ending of the nominative/accusative singular is -m!




[FairfieldLife] Doonesbury on the new GOP-driven voter ID laws

2012-08-19 Thread turquoiseb
 [Doonesbury]
http://doonesbury.slate.com/strip/archive/2012/8/19
http://doonesbury.slate.com/strip/archive/2012/8/19



Re: [FairfieldLife] Astrology?

2012-08-19 Thread Share Long
To which stars do you refer Good Doc DA?  Those residing in heaven?  Those 
residing in Funny Farm Lounge?

On a way more serious note, do you ascribe to the Western ways of astrology?  
The Eastern?  Both?

Moon headed for debilitation.  Not best for women.  Unless...




 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 12:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Astrology?
 

  
The Good Doctor inquires if there are others here enchanted by the stars? A 
good time for Lunar Leos!


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
The fact that you two agree with each other, better helps me to understand you 
seventhray1. Batty knows that I'm correct. He just can't live with it. Or 
himself. Live your Degeneracy.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  Dan,
  
  You realize that this is slanderous and cowardly. And although 
  it does not affect me, I would say that it is grounds for 
  suspension from the group. That would be my recommendation.  
  You are, what's called in the trade, a coward, Dan. A coward 
  is someone who resorts to innuendo when they have nothing 
  to back up their accusations.
 
 7ray, I'd say that Dan just drops right in 
 lately to the general level of obsession and
 insanity that Fairfield Life has devolved to.
 
 Fascinating that my done-for-fun satire yesterday
 about me and Vaj and Curtis being designated as
 Schedule I drugs because people become so obsessed
 with us that they literally become addicted to the
 obsession was proven so incredibly Right On, eh?
 
 As for grounds for suspension, quite frankly I
 think that you're dreaming. Rick is clearly asleep 
 at the wheel, and either doesn't care that the 
 forum he created has become a refuge for crazy
 people, or he really doesn't get it. 
 
 From my point of view, he has now allowed at least
 three certifiably mentally ill people to post here, 
 people who are in desperate need of either therapy or
 commitment to a mental institution. Rick doesn't 
 seem to even notice. Maybe that has something to
 do with the people he interviews as everyday
 enlightened role models. He's lost touch with
 reality, as perceived by most of the world.
 
 He also doesn't seem to notice that over the years
 the quirkiness quotient surrounding TM and the
 TMO has grown so huge that these mentally ill people 
 are not being recognized as the mentally ill people 
 they are. Instead, people who on any other forum 
 would instantly recognize them for what they are 
 and either compassionately ignore them or actively
 encourage them to get help instead *encourage their 
 craziness*. 
 
 They *go out of their way* to get these already
 mentally ill people to become more so. 
 
 And in the process become a little less sane 
 themselves, with every post. 
 
 Do you remember how many people reacted when Ravi
 *first* showed up here? Exactly as I suggest above.
 They were CONCERNED about him, afraid that he was
 having a breakdown, afraid that he'd do harm either
 to himself or his wife, and urging him to get some
 kind of professional help. 
 
 Now they treat him as if he's NORMAL, and *encourage*
 him to act out even more. They do the same thing 
 with Robin, and more recently with Dan Friedman.
 
 Obsessing on another person to the point that 
 people do it on this forum is *not* normal. The
 only even remotely benevolent way I can see the
 phenomenon is that the people engaged in it --
 over a dozen of them, now -- just Don't Have 
 Lives, and this behavior has taken the place of 
 what other, more sane people do for fun and 
 entertainment.
 
 But it really is past the point of funny or enter-
 taining now. You've got people here who think it
 is NORMAL for someone to threaten another person
 with physical harm because they embarrassed them
 in front of their wife a year and a half ago. 
 
 I honestly think that a lot of it really *IS*
 attributable to the Cult Experience. Those who
 have come to believe that their behavior on FFL
 is NORMAL are comparing it to levels of craziness
 they've seen around them in other TMers for 
 decades now, and come to take for granted. They 
 don't see anything the least bit wrong with 
 becoming this obsessive, or acting out one's 
 obsessions in this way. 
 
 Thanks for occasionally being one of the relatively
 sane voices here, Steve. You're definitely in the 
 minority these days, and that's a compliment.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
Share,

Thank you for your warm wishes. I knew that I was right about you!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Hi Mr. Daniel, thank you so much for the wonderful honor but my heart is 
 already given.  And I'm pretty sure Mrs. Daniel is your soulmate (-:
 
 All the best to you both
 Share
 
 
 
  From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:24 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
  
 
   
 Hey, I made the Count, first time. And what a time it's been! And to
 think that I tied Share Long, who I feel is my soulmate here on FFL.
 Now, I've let it out. Oops.
 
 And just ahead of Batty. See, Dad was right, the Good Guys Always Win.
 
 Hope to continue on to record heights. Or at least until I square up
 with Batty. 'see you around the block...and, Have Fun!
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@
 wrote:
 
  Fairfield Life Post Counter
  ===
  Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 18 00:00:00 2012
  End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 25 00:00:00 2012
  122 messages as of (UTC) Sun Aug 19 00:05:42 2012
 
  13 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
  12 Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@
  10 authfriend jstein@
   8 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   8 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   7 danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   7 Share Long sharelong60@
   6 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   5 Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
   5 Bhairitu noozguru@
   4 salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
   4 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   4 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   4 Buck dhamiltony2k5@
   3 raunchydog raunchydog@
   3 azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   2 srijau@, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.
   2 sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   2 obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   2 Susan wayback71@
   2 Richard J. Williams richard@
   1 seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   1 emptybill emptybill@
   1 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
   1 Robert babajii_99@
   1 PaliGap compost1uk@
   1 John jr_esq@
   1 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   1 Dick Mays dickmays@
   1 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Share Long
dear RaunchyD, thank you so much for posting that wonderful ad for Bounty paper 
towels.  You and Ann facilitated my laughing aloud 

Still quantum lightweaving today until 5.  



 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:47 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ 
   wrote:
   
Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital. 
   
   It's pretty scary, isn't it?
  
  Everybody's crazy but me and thee, Samanthy, and sometimes
  I think even thee is a little strange.
 
 Jesus, I go to Vancouver for 8 hours I'm sitting on the ferry and take a peek 
 at FFL and all hell has broken loose.  Now will you all get back in your 
 cages and  stop terrorizing the orderlies. This is the last time I leave you 
 all unattended and AZ, we need to have a talk. There's a law against 
 plagiarism and inciting the loonies to riot. Now settle down, I'll figure out 
 all of your punishments tomorrow. (this has not been easy typing this on a 
 damn iPhone by the way.)


http://youtu.be/ryZky0y4ERg


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2012-08-19 Thread Share Long
And if Mrs. Daniel doesn't mind, and if ok with you too, you shall forever be 
my #1 Unavailable Buddy.  How's that?!  Share




 From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 6:48 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
 

  
Share,

Thank you for your warm wishes. I knew that I was right about you!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Hi Mr. Daniel, thank you so much for the wonderful honor but my heart is 
 already given.  And I'm pretty sure Mrs. Daniel is your soulmate (-:
 
 All the best to you both
 Share
 
 
 
  From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:24 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
 
 
   
 Hey, I made the Count, first time. And what a time it's been! And to
 think that I tied Share Long, who I feel is my soulmate here on FFL.
 Now, I've let it out. Oops.
 
 And just ahead of Batty. See, Dad was right, the Good Guys Always Win.
 
 Hope to continue on to record heights. Or at least until I square up
 with Batty. 'see you around the block...and, Have Fun!
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@
 wrote:
 
  Fairfield Life Post Counter
  ===
  Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 18 00:00:00 2012
  End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 25 00:00:00 2012
  122 messages as of (UTC) Sun Aug 19 00:05:42 2012
 
  13 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
  12 Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@
  10 authfriend jstein@
   8 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   8 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   7 danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   7 Share Long sharelong60@
   6 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   5 Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
   5 Bhairitu noozguru@
   4 salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
   4 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   4 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   4 Buck dhamiltony2k5@
   3 raunchydog raunchydog@
   3 azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   2 srijau@, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.
   2 sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   2 obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   2 Susan wayback71@
   2 Richard J. Williams richard@
   1 seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   1 emptybill emptybill@
   1 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
   1 Robert babajii_99@
   1 PaliGap compost1uk@
   1 John jr_esq@
   1 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   1 Dick Mays dickmays@
   1 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Strange Cosmic Ride on a Municipal Bus

2012-08-19 Thread Share Long
I walk down the street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk
I fall in.
I am lost... I am hopeless.
It isn't my fault.
It takes forever to find a way out.

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I pretend I don't see it.
I fall in again.
I can't believe I'm in the same place.
But it isn't my fault.
It still takes a long time to get out.

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I see it is there.
I still fall in... it's a habit
My eyes are open
I know where I am
It is my fault.
I get out immediately.

I walk down the same street.
There is a deep hole in the sidewalk.
I walk around it.

I walk down another street. 


Hi JR  your post reminded me of the above little allegory.




 From: John jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:07 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Strange Cosmic Ride on a Municipal Bus
 

  
After doing some business in downtown SF today, I went back home taking the 
bus.  The bus was full of people.  When I got to my stop, I stood in front of 
the exit door to get off.  But the door didn't open. 

So, I had to pull the stop chord again for the next bus stop.  When the bus got 
to the next stop, I stood in front of the door and shook it.  Once again, the 
door didn't open and the bus proceeded on its route.

Suspecting that there was something wrong, I walked to the front of the long 
articulated bus and told the bus driver about my problem.  I politely told him 
that there was something wrong with the exit door of the bus.  Although he did 
not say anything, I heard him heave a sigh that sounded more like he was 
seething with anger.  The front door opened and I got off the bus.

JR


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread turquoiseb
Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
to do recently. 

Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
records of all of the email services I use to prove it.

This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 

As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
equally at risk. Check the case law on this.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@... wrote:

 seventhray1,
 
 Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
 here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
 supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
 
 Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
 disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
 my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? Good 
 friendly advice.
 
 The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
 wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
 sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not have 
 had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
 
 And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
  the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
  and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
  its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
  over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
  offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
  way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
  opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
  
  Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
  receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
  just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
  what could be next?  A documentary?
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
  wrote:
  
  
   seventhray1,
  
   I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
  lot about you.
  
   My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
  
   So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
  before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
  think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
  decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
  lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
  believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
  
   Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
  strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
  asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
  of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
  
   There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
  has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
  good for me.
  
   P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
  I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
  from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
  you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
  wrote:
   
   
Ann,
   
I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
  of
Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.
   
For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
  Dan
who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
Dan.
   
Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
impression is being given by Dan.
   
Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
  be
show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
that here.
   
There seems to be intense hatred of Barry by Dan. I am not sure why
this old issue is being brought up as though it were new.
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@
wrote:

 This is ramping up 

[FairfieldLife] TM for the military is spreading in the US

2012-08-19 Thread merlin
Maharishi’s Global Family Chat Summary

14 / AUGUST / 2012


Transcendental Meditation for the military is spreading in the US
As consciousness rises more big projects pop up in Latin America


Dr Adam Pressman described how the news is going mainstream that 
Transcendental Meditation is providing a solution for military 
personnel, veterans and ‘first responders’ (police, firemen, emergency 
workers) as they battle with post-traumatic stress.


Typical of the spread was an event held at Fort Hamilton, New York, last 
Saturday. Adam showed a powerful video of the New York Fire 
Department chief, the local congressman, and other veterans passionately 
encouraging the attendees to contribute to the Warrior Wellness 
programme.

Particularly moving was the story told by Debbie Ortiz, wife of a police
 officer who suffered from severe post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD),
 which was cleared within three days by his practice of Transcendental 
Meditation.

Dr Swan commented that the tone of Dr Pressman’s and Dr Bobbie Roth’s 
reports has changed remarkably in the past 6 months: they used to speak 
as though they were leading the collective consciousness from ‘outside’,
 but now the collective consciousness has risen to the extent that they 
speak as leaders, but from within the national awareness. Dr Pressman 
agreed and emphasized that all the developments are due solely to the 
large group of Yogic Flyers in and around the Invincible America 
Assembly.


Raja Luis said this has been a special week, in which the rapidly changing 
quality of collective consciousness has delivered two more large projects.
At a time when intensive planning is under way to find ways to fulfil huge 
teaching projects, new 
projects are popping up from unexpected angles. This week the government of a 
(neighbouring country,) where there has not been much TM activity, requested a 
pilot project of 10,000 students to learn Transcendental 
Meditation. And based on that success TM would be implemented for all 
students nationwide.
While thinking about this, a Sidha who leads an international unit 
teaching health education programmes in many countries including Africa, 
requested another large project.
Raja Luis also emphasized that this ‘contagion’ is spreading due to the 
existing large groups of Yogic Flyers who are purifying the 
collective consciousness of the entire continent. He said we are not in 
control, but we just keep on steadily doing what we have to do, and then the 
next step comes by itself.
Soon he will be asking again for TM Teachers to come and help.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
You deemed to send your strange email to my wife and I have used that same 
email address to write a little-something to you.

And now you add that others will be putting themselves at legal risk.

And Rick Archer is equally at risk.

Get a f-ing life Batty. Your bullshit threats TO EVERYONE are as useless as you.

A little paranoid, are we?


P.S. A little hiding-behind seventhray1, rather than facing me directly. 
Another weak-assed mf.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 

[FairfieldLife] The enemy of my enemy is my friend

2012-08-19 Thread turquoiseb
No matter how mentally ill they are, or how much worse me encouraging
them to become even more mentally ill affects them.

That, sadly, is the everyday reality of the curious phenomenon we call
the Internet. The emergence of what many psychologists and sociologists
are calling pathological cliques has taken its toll.

An incident that happened in New Mexico when I lived there should help
to illustrate the problem. On one chat forum, a former mental patient
released because New Mexico cut its funds to state-supported mental
facilities and had to cut him loose and say nothint in parting but Good
luck logged on to the forum and was instantly recruited by one of the
reigning cliques on that forum.

They encouraged him to join them in dumping on one of their common
enemies, a woman who was outspoken about the degree of sexism and
racism (she was Hispanic) she saw on the forum. He promptly did so, and
was *rewarded* by the members of the clique with strokes and
compliments. Every time he'd join them in dissing the woman, they would
compliment him and tell him how intelligent and insightful he was. He
took this stroking so seriously that he took to stalking the woman in
question. He finally raped her brutally, and was sent to prison.

Not *one* of the members of the pathological clique in question took any
responsibility for his actions, or acknowledged their role in them. They
responded with a chorus of We never noticed that there was anything
wrong with him. He seemed *normal* to us.

WHY he seemed normal was that he *joined them* in their online
harassment and persecution of the woman in question. It was more
important to them to get the woman they collectively disliked than to
notice that he was in a fragile mental state, and in need of *help* in
dealing with his psychological problems, not in acting them out.

Does any of this sound *familiar* to Fairfield Life members?

This shit is dangerous, people. You're messing with fragile and
unbalanced personalities, and attempting to *use* them to either exact
retribution for grudges you've been carrying for years, or to support
fantasy ideas about enlightenment or the spiritual process you've been
clinging to for years.

I'm calling bullshit. I don't think you give a shit about ANY of these
people you recruit. I don't even think you're perceptive enough to see
who they really are, or compassionate enough to care. All you care about
are your petty grudges and vendettas and attachments to spiritual dogma,
and you see these people only as resources to be used and then thrown
away like Kleenex.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread seventhray1

Dan, I think you've started to channel Nabby, or Applesauce.  The
problem is I like Applesauce.  I can't really say the same for you.

Do you like Applesauce?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@...
wrote:

 seventhray1,

 Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to
posts here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave
Nazi supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.

 Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and
disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties
about my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and
move on? Good friendly advice.

 The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't
completely wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the
true Batty is sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained
that I would not have had to post anything had Batty replied to my
friendly-tone emails.

 And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
 
 
  As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here . I
reread
  the the link Judy provided. Barry was being his usual mischievous
self
  and poking fun at you through your error. FFL has never been known
for
  its proper manners, or apologies. Do you think it might be time to
get
  over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago? Was it that egregious
an
  offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?
Either
  way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
  opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
 
  Oh I just reread what you wrote below. And that is fascinating about
  receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
  just about Barry in general. Either way that is impressive. I mean,
  what could be next? A documentary?
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
  wrote:
  
  
   seventhray1,
  
   I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it
says a
  lot about you.
  
   My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
  
   So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
  before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
  think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
  decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront
your
  lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong,
but
  believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good
meaning.
  
   Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
  strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted.
When I
  asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is
devoid
  of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
  
   There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post.
What
  has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That
is
  good for me.
  
   P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed
opinion.
  I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and
well-wishes
  from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE.
Something
  you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
  wrote:
   
   
Ann,
   
I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's
accusation
  of
Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.
   
For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two
years
ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up,
and
so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it
was
  Dan
who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry
then
commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to
infuriate
Dan.
   
Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a
wrong
impression is being given by Dan.
   
Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at
least
  be
show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot
of
that here.
   
There seems to be intense hatred of Barry by Dan. I am not sure
why
this old issue is being brought up as though it were new.
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@
wrote:

 This is ramping up nicely to be the ultimate pissing match
between
  two
testosterone
 fueled individuals who refuse to back down. Just what we need
now.
 Barry, how about taking the high road and leave Dan' s wife
out of
this? Conflict resolution is not your strong point but surely
you
possess some grey cells that could pass for a brain.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@
  wrote:
  
   More on this developing story as 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
That's goog-enough-for me. A loving wife AND a #1 Unavailable Buddy.
What else could a man ask for?


looking around...Is that apology from Batty forthcoming? I know I
expected it some time ago. It's got to be here somewhere? No that's not
it. Hmmm, better be more patient.

Not so, I believe.

It is always best to have devoted family, good friends, #1 Unavailable
Buddies, and a strong arm to protect them
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@...
wrote:

 And if Mrs. Daniel doesn't mind, and if ok with you too, you shall
forever be my #1 Unavailable Buddy.  How's that?!  Share



 
  From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 6:48 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count


 Â
 Share,

 Thank you for your warm wishes. I knew that I was right about you!

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
 
  Hi Mr. Daniel, thank you so much for the wonderful honor but my
heart is already given.  And I'm pretty sure Mrs. Daniel is your
soulmate (-:
 
  All the best to you both
  Share
 
 
  
   From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:24 PM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
 
 
  ÂÂ
  Hey, I made the Count, first time. And what a time it's been! And to
  think that I tied Share Long, who I feel is my soulmate here on FFL.
  Now, I've let it out. Oops.
 
  And just ahead of Batty. See, Dad was right, the Good Guys Always
Win.
 
  Hope to continue on to record heights. Or at least until I square up
  with Batty. 'see you around the block...and, Have Fun!
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@
  wrote:
  
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   ===
   Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 18 00:00:00 2012
   End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 25 00:00:00 2012
   122 messages as of (UTC) Sun Aug 19 00:05:42 2012
  
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   12 Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@
   10 authfriend jstein@
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5 Bhairitu noozguru@
4 salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
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4 Buck dhamiltony2k5@
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2 Susan wayback71@
2 Richard J. Williams richard@
1 seventhray1 steve.sundur@
1 emptybill emptybill@
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread seventhray1

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently.
Good advice.  His slander is blatant.
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.

 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats.

 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
 
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations
to posts here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave
Nazi supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
 
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted
and disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all
tied-up-in-your=panties about my correcting you. Why don't you admit
that you were wrong and move on? Good friendly advice.
 
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't
completely wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the
true Batty is sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained
that I would not have had to post anything had Batty replied to my
friendly-tone emails.
 
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here . I
reread
   the the link Judy provided. Barry was being his usual mischievous
self
   and poking fun at you through your error. FFL has never been known
for
   its proper manners, or apologies. Do you think it might be time to
get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago? Was it that
egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?
Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with
my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
  
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below. And that is fascinating
about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or
maybe
   just about Barry in general. Either way that is impressive. I
mean,
   what could be next? A documentary?
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it
says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but
I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront
your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong,
but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good
meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted.
When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is
devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange
post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That
is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed
opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and
well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE.
Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1
steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's
accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two
years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it
up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe
it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account.
Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to
infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a
wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at
least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a
lot of
 that here.

 There seems to be intense hatred of Barry by Dan. I am not
sure why
 this old 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The enemy of my enemy is my friend

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
Batty, summary please!

Is this another post responding to seventhray1, responding to Batty, responding 
to seventhray1.

Doesn't your head hurt from pounding out so many lies to your undying audience?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 No matter how mentally ill they are, or how much worse me encouraging
 them to become even more mentally ill affects them.
 
 That, sadly, is the everyday reality of the curious phenomenon we call
 the Internet. The emergence of what many psychologists and sociologists
 are calling pathological cliques has taken its toll.
 
 An incident that happened in New Mexico when I lived there should help
 to illustrate the problem. On one chat forum, a former mental patient
 released because New Mexico cut its funds to state-supported mental
 facilities and had to cut him loose and say nothint in parting but Good
 luck logged on to the forum and was instantly recruited by one of the
 reigning cliques on that forum.
 
 They encouraged him to join them in dumping on one of their common
 enemies, a woman who was outspoken about the degree of sexism and
 racism (she was Hispanic) she saw on the forum. He promptly did so, and
 was *rewarded* by the members of the clique with strokes and
 compliments. Every time he'd join them in dissing the woman, they would
 compliment him and tell him how intelligent and insightful he was. He
 took this stroking so seriously that he took to stalking the woman in
 question. He finally raped her brutally, and was sent to prison.
 
 Not *one* of the members of the pathological clique in question took any
 responsibility for his actions, or acknowledged their role in them. They
 responded with a chorus of We never noticed that there was anything
 wrong with him. He seemed *normal* to us.
 
 WHY he seemed normal was that he *joined them* in their online
 harassment and persecution of the woman in question. It was more
 important to them to get the woman they collectively disliked than to
 notice that he was in a fragile mental state, and in need of *help* in
 dealing with his psychological problems, not in acting them out.
 
 Does any of this sound *familiar* to Fairfield Life members?
 
 This shit is dangerous, people. You're messing with fragile and
 unbalanced personalities, and attempting to *use* them to either exact
 retribution for grudges you've been carrying for years, or to support
 fantasy ideas about enlightenment or the spiritual process you've been
 clinging to for years.
 
 I'm calling bullshit. I don't think you give a shit about ANY of these
 people you recruit. I don't even think you're perceptive enough to see
 who they really are, or compassionate enough to care. All you care about
 are your petty grudges and vendettas and attachments to spiritual dogma,
 and you see these people only as resources to be used and then thrown
 away like Kleenex.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
seventhray1,

Is this another post responding to Batty, responding to seventhray1, responding 
to Batty, responding to seventhray1...

You two have something going here. It's brilliant!

It's not only your tone seventhray1, it's your actual uninformed, opinionated 
words.

There I've said it very simple terms, so that you can understand.


Now, go back and party with your Buddy Batty, you two *really* do deserve each 
other.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
  because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious
  mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
  to do recently.
 Good advice.  His slander is blatant.
  Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the
  records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
  This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
  me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
  I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
  delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
  at risk if he ever acts out on his threats.
 
  As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
  equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   seventhray1,
  
   Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations
 to posts here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave
 Nazi supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
   Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted
 and disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all
 tied-up-in-your=panties about my correcting you. Why don't you admit
 that you were wrong and move on? Good friendly advice.
  
   The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't
 completely wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the
 true Batty is sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained
 that I would not have had to post anything had Batty replied to my
 friendly-tone emails.
  
   And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
 wrote:
   
As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here . I
 reread
the the link Judy provided. Barry was being his usual mischievous
 self
and poking fun at you through your error. FFL has never been known
 for
its proper manners, or apologies. Do you think it might be time to
 get
over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago? Was it that
 egregious an
offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?
 Either
way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with
 my
opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
Oh I just reread what you wrote below. And that is fascinating
 about
receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or
 maybe
just about Barry in general. Either way that is impressive. I
 mean,
what could be next? A documentary?
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
wrote:


 seventhray1,

 I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it
 says a
lot about you.

 My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.

 So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but
 I
think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront
 your
lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong,
 but
believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good
 meaning.

 Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted.
 When I
asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is
 devoid
of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.

 There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange
 post. What
has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That
 is
good for me.

 P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed
 opinion.
I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and
 well-wishes
from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE.
 Something
you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1
 steve.sundur@
wrote:
 
 
  Ann,
 
  I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's
 accusation
of
  Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.
 
  For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two
 years
  ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
Dear seventhray1,

Thank you for asking, and, yes I do like applesauce quite a lot. Worked on a 
farm, many years ago, where we picked and stewed the apples, added cinnamon and 
WHAT A TREAT!  It was such a good memory that I subsequently named my cat 
Cinnamon. As an aside, did you know that it is important to have an 's' sound 
in a cat's name, they will better respond.

I was pleased to receive your email, this time addressed directly to me. Thank 
you. You know, I can appreciate how hard it becomes to even write clearly when 
you're posting directly to Batty. It's happened to me a couple of times, but 
now I just stick with the fact, avoid any opinion, and it's all good.

Hope to hear from you real soon (again).

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 Dan, I think you've started to channel Nabby, or Applesauce.  The
 problem is I like Applesauce.  I can't really say the same for you.
 
 Do you like Applesauce?
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
 
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to
 posts here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave
 Nazi supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
 
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and
 disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties
 about my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and
 move on? Good friendly advice.
 
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't
 completely wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the
 true Batty is sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained
 that I would not have had to post anything had Batty replied to my
 friendly-tone emails.
 
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
 wrote:
  
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here . I
 reread
   the the link Judy provided. Barry was being his usual mischievous
 self
   and poking fun at you through your error. FFL has never been known
 for
   its proper manners, or apologies. Do you think it might be time to
 get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago? Was it that egregious
 an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?
 Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
  
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below. And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general. Either way that is impressive. I mean,
   what could be next? A documentary?
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it
 says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront
 your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong,
 but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good
 meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted.
 When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is
 devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post.
 What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That
 is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed
 opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and
 well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE.
 Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's
 accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two
 years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up,
 and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it
 was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry
 then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to
 infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a
 wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Astrology?

2012-08-19 Thread obbajeeba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2pgWsYSyUA

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 The Good Doctor inquires if there are others here enchanted by the stars? A 
 good time for Lunar Leos!





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  On 08/18/2012 05:42 PM, authfriend wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   On 08/18/2012 11:33 AM, authfriend wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ 
   wrote:
   So, it's all about Robin.
   Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
   about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
   how many others do.
  
   Well gee Willy, I guess if Judy sez that it must be true.
   That despite the fact that the post I quoted had the word
   Robin in it some 47 times. Guess Judy must have read it
   as Tobin (or did she read it at all)? :-D
  
   Somehow I don't think az expected that Bhairitu would be
   one of the folks who would fall for the gag, but I could
   have told az he might, given his propensity to believe in
   nutty conspiracy theories.
  
   Still, it's hard to fathom how anybody with two brain cells
   to rub together could have read even just the first
   paragraph and thought it was about Robin. Heck, the second
   sentence in the first paragraph should have been enough to
   clue folks in that something wasn't kosher, even if their
   reading skills were so deficient as to prevent them from
   being able to decode Robin's message.
  
   The real stunner, however, is Bhairitu's claim above, that
   the appearance of Robin's name in the post is enough to
   demonstrate that it's about Robin.
  
   I mean, it boggles the mind. You just wouldn't expect that
   kind of stupidity from someone who had managed to make a
   solid career for themselves. A few highlights:
  
   Bhairitu found employment as a musician at various clubs in the Village, 
   as well as earning acting roles in film. His made his debut on the silver 
   screen in Abel Ferrara's China Girl, for which he also wrote the 
   end-credit song Midnight. Bhairitu went on to collaborate with Ferrara 
   on several film and music projects, including: Bad Lieutenant, in which 
   Bhairitu played Jesus Christ and co-wrote the end-credits song; Body 
   Snatchers, which featured the song I Want You Back; and The Funeral, 
   which saw Bhairitu co-starring with Christopher Walken, Isabella 
   Rosselini, Benicio del Toro and Vincent Gallo.
  
   Bhairitu then co-starred in the off-Broadway show A Minor Incident with 
   legendary songwriter Carole King, who was making her stage debut in the 
   play. The two collaborated on songs for her Capitol Records release City 
   Streets, including the song I Can't Stop Thinking About You, which 
   Bhairitu co-wrote and plays guitar and performs backing vocals on. It was 
   on stage with Carole King at London's Royal Albert Hall that Bhairitu was 
   spotted by the producers of a new West End musical Buddy: The Buddy Holly 
   Story.
  
   Buddy opened to rave reviews on 12 October 1989, at The Victoria Palace 
   Theater. Bhairitu's turn in the title role of Buddy Holly earned him a 
   nomination for the Laurence Olivier Award for Outstanding Performance by 
   an Actor in a Musical. The following year, Buddy at Broadway's Shubert 
   Theater in New York, and Bhairitu was nominated for a Tony Award for his 
   performance, as well as winning the Theater World Award for Best Broadway 
   Debut.
  
   After Buddy, Bhairitu appeared in the films Fathers  Sons, with Jeff 
   Goldblum, and as Jesus Christ opposite Harvey Keitel in Abel Ferrara's 
   Bad Lieutenant, for which he also performed and co-wrote the title song, 
   Bad Lieutenant with Ferrara. Bhairitu also appeared as Gene Vincent 
   opposite Donal Logue (as Eddie Cochran) in the play Be-Bop-A-Lula at 
   Hollywood's famed Theater/Theater before returning to the London stage 
   for the 25th anniversary revival of Hair at the Old Vic, in the role of 
   Berger.
  
  That might have been a fun career but it wasn't mine.
 
 Your name appears in it 11 times (it's much shorter than az's
 post).
 
  I don't know of anyone really named Bhairitu.
 
 It originally said Barry, but I replaced it with Bhairitu
 because that's the name you use here.
 
 snip 
  Judy goes further into the ozone.  Here is the first paragraph
  she is talking about:
  
  Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his incoherent 
  message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of 
  television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was chosen 
  by God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to brass 
  tacks: It is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise and 
  focus solely on his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but forces 
  his underlings to make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, Robin's 
  underlings don't much seem to mind being given such querulous orders. I 
  guess it's hard to free chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno, dear 
 Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind, utterly 
 threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a 
 dilemma?

Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I was 
speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute what he says.

 Having said I did find dumbaz's gags very funny, laughing loud reading 
 another one his posts, the one Share responded to, while waiting for my 
 dinner order here at a restaurant. That these morons are so stuck in their 
 heads is really sad - they could have just had fun, come with witty 
 responses, retorts but all we have is their repugnant prejudices exposed in 
 such a pathetic fashion. 
 
 It always baffles me when I see people taking Xeno's mental constructs so 
 seriously and I know I have always been curious on how he interacts with 
 normal people in his daily life, I have asked him before and all I got was 
 more mental constructs.

Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when I say anything it is 
presented as a mental construct. There is no way to speak without a mental 
constuct. Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental construct' is a 
mental construct. And there is no daily life interaction on FFL, no interaction 
with normal people, there is only the symbolic structure of language rolling 
back and forth, so all I get from you, from, Judy, from Barry, etc., are mental 
constructs. Then one has to make something of those with what one has, and 
reply using one's own particular mental construct.

You operate from the level of your gut perhaps more than anyone here. I do 
operate that way sometimes, but it is much more subdued especially compared to 
you, if I interpret the text you write here. It was perhaps that over-emotional 
style of yours that gets you booted off here at times. The human mind creates a 
world, and the separate worlds of human interaction do not line up in neat 
coherent rows. As I am like a separate alien universe to you, so you are to me, 
when comparing our mental styles. Our emotional palettes are vastly different.

Azgrey's post(s) were rather interesting assaults on Robin. I felt the general 
tenor of the content somewhat appropriate, considering some of the other posts 
in a similar vein that were more direct, and based on those persons' having 
known Robin. Robin has the intellectual kutzpah to deal with that post. Judy 
was correct in that I cannot quite fathom Robin, but I am not sure she does 
either. I feel Judy is always down in the trenches, logically precise, but does 
not see the general sweep of the battle. I used to think in ways a lot like 
Judy. I was, and still am probably in a different way, insufferable. Judy does 
it with a scope and precision I could never have mustered. It takes too much 
energy.

And how I interact with normal people in my daily life, well, that is a deep 
deep secret of the universe, hidden from the eyes of dear dear Ravi.

 Love,
 Ravi




[FairfieldLife] Re: An Open Letter To Robin Vol. 2

2012-08-19 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 dear az 
 
 I'm responding to this Open Letter Vol. 2 simply because no one else did!  
 Confessing I did not actually read your post because I've been quantum 
 lightweaving for the last 2 days and your paragraphs are way too long for 
 such a one (-:
 Hope everyone is having fun. 

is this another joke or is there actually such a thing as quantum lightweaving? 
Right now anything seems to be able to pass for truth around here. I tend to be 
a little leery so excuse me if I have offended! (You must be one delicate 
handler of light if you can weave with it, can you make me a scarf?)
 
 Share
 
 
 
 
 
  From: azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:34 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] An Open Letter To Robin Vol. 2
  
 
   
 Half of me was reluctant to write this letter out of concern that Robin may 
 be one of those people who say flighty things for the sole purpose of gaining 
 attention. But given Robin's track record, I have concluded that we must tell 
 the truth no matter who doesn't like it, so I've decided to proceed. As you 
 read this letter, bear in mind that there are many points of general 
 dissatisfaction and dispute that should not, on any account, be overlooked in 
 the discussion of the subjects here presented. One of these is that I am 
 hurt, furious, and embarrassed. Why am I hurt? Because too many disagreeable 
 bullies out there are looking for the quick and easy fix, for a great savior 
 who will make it all right again so they can go back to sleep. They gather at 
 the foot of the mount to herald the coming of Robin and neglect to notice 
 that conclaves of Robin's habitués have all the dissent found in a North 
 Korean communist party meeting. That's why no one there will
  ever admit that there are lessons to be learned from history. To say 
 anything else would be a lie. Why am I furious? Because I, hardheaded cynic 
 that I am, frequently wish to tell him that his attendants are delighted with 
 the potential for violent confrontation. But being a generally genteel 
 person, however, I always bite my tongue. And why am I embarrassed? Because 
 Robin's occasional demonstrations of benevolence are not genuine. Nor are his 
 promises. In fact, Robin has, on a number of occasions, expressed a desire to 
 reconstitute society on the basis of arrested development and envious 
 malevolence. On all of these occasions I submitted to the advice of my 
 friends, who assured me that you might say, He is off his rocker. Fine, I 
 agree. But he has a glib proficiency with words and very sensitive nostrils. 
 Robin can smell money in your pocket from a block away. Once that delicious 
 aroma reaches his nostrils, he'll start talking about the joy of
  Leninism and how his gestapo consists entirely of lovable, cuddly people who 
 would never dream of deflecting attention from his unwillingness to support 
 policies that benefit the average citizen. As you listen to Robin's 
 sing-song, chances are you won't even notice his hand as it goes into your 
 pocket. Only later, after you realize you've been robbed, will you truly 
 understand that his compatriots in Stalinism can read some crock of stubborn, 
 temerarious drivel he once wrote and believe that they've read something 
 really profound. Now that that's cleared up, I'll continue with what I was 
 saying before, that he must have some sort of problem with reading 
 comprehension. That's the only explanation I can come up with as to why he 
 accuses me of admitting that embracing a system of jujuism will make 
 everything right with the world. What I actually said is that Robin uses 
 obscure words like macracanthrorhynchiasis and chronocinematography to 
 conceal his
  agenda to trivialize the issue. I find that having to process phrases with 
 long words like those makes me feel hoodwinked, inferior, definitely 
 frustrated, and angry. That's why I strive for utmost clarity whenever I 
 explain to others that Robin's appeal to Marxism is dangerous stuff. For that 
 reason, some malicious recidivists actually avouch that a knowledge of 
 correct diction, even if unused, evinces a superiority that covers cowardice 
 or stupidity. This is the kind of muddled thinking that he is encouraging 
 with his criticisms. Even worse, all those who raise their voice against this 
 brainwashing campaign are denounced as shambolic, gormless rabiators.
 
 Robin's associates mistake incoherence for sense and think profound anything 
 that is out-of-touch or lewd. That should serve as the final, ultimate, 
 irrefutable proof that I have grown tired of watching the repeated handshakes 
 and toothy smiles in front of television cameras and subsequently learning 
 that nothing has truly changed. As always, Robin hates people who guard 
 against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
   So, it's all about Robin.
  
  Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
  about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
  how many others do.
 
Bhairitu:
 Well gee Willy, I guess if Judy sez that it must be true. 

So, now it's all about Judy. LoL! 

 That despite the fact that the post I quoted had the word 
 Robin in it some 47 times.  Guess Judy must have read it 
 as Tobin (or did she read it at all)? :-D

So, Judy fell down the rabbit hole again, but we got fooled?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  LOL! thank you for playing along! Splendid! 
  
  you are joking about Barry's age?? not that I want to prolong this, but can 
  anyone else vouch for authfriend's opinion that Barry is 66 or 67?!?! 
  
  Mr. Barry, are you a professional actor, perhaps?
  
  In other universal news, 42.
  
 
 No joke, Doc. Barry is an old fart, easily mistaken for a young jackass.

Raunchy just made the 'reply of the week'.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
   
Hello - I am new on here. I have lurked for a few weeks. (I learned TM 
a few years ago.) If I may comment, and ask a question? There seems to 
be a lot of different age groups represented here - and I sense Barry 
is one of the younger ones, making the same sweeping generalizations, 
and having the same glorious, naive dreams of youth. So, The Doctor 
inquires, why not let him grow up like the rest of us have? Cut him a 
break already --
   
   Hi, Doctor, welcome to the fray. Barry's actually 67, I
   believe, or maybe 66, so you might want to amend your
   inquiry. ;-)
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2012-08-19 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@...
wrote:

 That's goog-enough-for me. A loving wife AND a #1 Unavailable Buddy.
 What else could a man ask for?


 looking around...Is that apology from Batty forthcoming? I know I
 expected it some time ago. It's got to be here somewhere? No that's
not
 it. Hmmm, better be more patient.


DAN!  No, it is an apology!  According the the International Scale of
Apologies (or ISA), it is a 3.9 out of a 5.  Anything above 3.5
qualifies as an apology.  So, although not particularly strong one, it
definitely qualifies, and therfore you can now move past the entire
issue.

This is good news for all.  BTW, the ISA is an open ended scale and so a
4.0 apology would actually be a pretty strong apology.

 Not so, I believe.

 It is always best to have devoted family, good friends, #1 Unavailable
 Buddies, and a strong arm to protect them
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@
 wrote:
 
  And if Mrs. Daniel doesn't mind, and if ok with you too, you shall
 forever be my #1 Unavailable Buddy. How's that?! Share
 
 
 
  
  From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 6:48 AM
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
 
 
  Â
  Share,
 
  Thank you for your warm wishes. I knew that I was right about you!
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
  
   Hi Mr. Daniel, thank you so much for the wonderful honor but my
 heart is already given. And I'm pretty sure Mrs. Daniel is your
 soulmate (-:
  
   All the best to you both
   Share
  
  
   
   From: danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 7:24 PM
   Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
  
  
   ÂÂ
   Hey, I made the Count, first time. And what a time it's been! And
to
   think that I tied Share Long, who I feel is my soulmate here on
FFL.
   Now, I've let it out. Oops.
  
   And just ahead of Batty. See, Dad was right, the Good Guys Always
 Win.
  
   Hope to continue on to record heights. Or at least until I square
up
   with Batty. 'see you around the block...and, Have Fun!
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount
ffl.postcount@
   wrote:
   
Fairfield Life Post Counter
===
Start Date (UTC): Sat Aug 18 00:00:00 2012
End Date (UTC): Sat Aug 25 00:00:00 2012
122 messages as of (UTC) Sun Aug 19 00:05:42 2012
   
13 Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
12 Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@
10 authfriend jstein@
8 merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
8 awoelflebater no_re...@yahoogroups.com
7 danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
7 Share Long sharelong60@
6 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
5 Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@
5 Bhairitu noozguru@
4 salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
4 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
4 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
4 Buck dhamiltony2k5@
3 raunchydog raunchydog@
3 azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com
2 srijau@, UNEXPECTED_DATA_AFTER_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR.
2 sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.com
2 obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com
2 Susan wayback71@
2 Richard J. Williams richard@
1 seventhray1 steve.sundur@
1 emptybill emptybill@
1 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
1 Robert babajii_99@
1 PaliGap compost1uk@
1 John jr_esq@
1 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
1 Dick Mays dickmays@
1 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@
   
Posters: 30
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[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
authfriend:
 Bhairitu found employment as a musician at various clubs 
 in the Village...

So, now it's all about 'Bhairitu'. LoL!

, as well as earning acting roles in film. His made his debut on the silver 
screen in Abel Ferrara's China Girl, for which he also wrote the end-credit 
song Midnight. Bhairitu went on to collaborate with Ferrara on several film 
and music projects, including: Bad Lieutenant, in which Bhairitu played Jesus 
Christ and co-wrote the end-credits song; Body Snatchers, which featured the 
song I Want You Back; and The Funeral, which saw Bhairitu co-starring with 
Christopher Walken, Isabella Rosselini, Benicio del Toro and Vincent Gallo.
 
 Bhairitu then co-starred in the off-Broadway show A Minor Incident with 
 legendary songwriter Carole King, who was making her stage debut in the play. 
 The two collaborated on songs for her Capitol Records release City Streets, 
 including the song I Can't Stop Thinking About You, which Bhairitu co-wrote 
 and plays guitar and performs backing vocals on. It was on stage with Carole 
 King at London's Royal Albert Hall that Bhairitu was spotted by the producers 
 of a new West End musical Buddy: The Buddy Holly Story.
 
 Buddy opened to rave reviews on 12 October 1989, at The Victoria Palace 
 Theater. Bhairitu's turn in the title role of Buddy Holly earned him a 
 nomination for the Laurence Olivier Award for Outstanding Performance by an 
 Actor in a Musical. The following year, Buddy at Broadway's Shubert Theater 
 in New York, and Bhairitu was nominated for a Tony Award for his performance, 
 as well as winning the Theater World Award for Best Broadway Debut.
 
 After Buddy, Bhairitu appeared in the films Fathers  Sons, with Jeff 
 Goldblum, and as Jesus Christ opposite Harvey Keitel in Abel Ferrara's Bad 
 Lieutenant, for which he also performed and co-wrote the title song, Bad 
 Lieutenant with Ferrara. Bhairitu also appeared as Gene Vincent opposite 
 Donal Logue (as Eddie Cochran) in the play Be-Bop-A-Lula at Hollywood's famed 
 Theater/Theater before returning to the London stage for the 25th anniversary 
 revival of Hair at the Old Vic, in the role of Berger.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@...
wrote:

 Dear seventhray1,

 Thank you for asking, and, yes I do like applesauce quite a lot.
Worked on a farm, many years ago, where we picked and stewed the apples,
added cinnamon and WHAT A TREAT! It was such a good memory that I
subsequently named my cat Cinnamon. As an aside, did you know that it is
important to have an 's' sound in a cat's name, they will better
respond.
Dan, thanks for the tip.  Right now we have two cats, Buttons and
Miracle.  Buttons is quite friendly.  Not so with Miracle.  So, the S
thing might apply here.  Miracle got his name because we were housing a
family of strays in our garage.  The mother had taken them up into the
rafters.  Not all of them survived.  After a couple of weeks I went into
the garage to retrieve something, and there was a little orange ball of
fur in the corner making a tiny meow.  He's been ours ever since.  But
not particularly friendly.

Here's something else I read about cats.  It is said that black and
white cats tend to be more friendly.  That has definitely been our
experience.  Buttons is a black and white and was a stray for months,
but insisted on being adopted.  And guess what, right this instant he
came  up to me rubbing my leg.  I think he wants the butter treat I
somethimes  give him.  I take a pinch of butter and mush onto the
kitchen floor.  He love to take that raspy tongue and lick it up.


 I was pleased to receive your email, this time addressed directly to
me. Thank you. You know, I can appreciate how hard it becomes to even
write clearly when you're posting directly to Batty. It's happened to me
a couple of times, but now I just stick with the fact, avoid any
opinion, and it's all good.

 Hope to hear from you real soon (again).

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
 
 
  Dan, I think you've started to channel Nabby, or Applesauce. The
  problem is I like Applesauce. I can't really say the same for you.
 
  Do you like Applesauce?
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
  wrote:
  
   seventhray1,
  
   Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations
to
  posts here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the
brave
  Nazi supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
   Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted
and
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all
tied-up-in-your=panties
  about my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and
  move on? Good friendly advice.
  
   The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't
  completely wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who
the
  true Batty is sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained
  that I would not have had to post anything had Batty replied to my
  friendly-tone emails.
  
   And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
  wrote:
   
   
As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here . I
  reread
the the link Judy provided. Barry was being his usual
mischievous
  self
and poking fun at you through your error. FFL has never been
known
  for
its proper manners, or apologies. Do you think it might be time
to
  get
over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago? Was it that
egregious
  an
offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?
  Either
way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with
my
opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
Oh I just reread what you wrote below. And that is fascinating
about
receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or
maybe
just about Barry in general. Either way that is impressive. I
mean,
what could be next? A documentary?
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002
no_reply@
wrote:


 seventhray1,

 I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me;
it
  says a
lot about you.

 My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.

 So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it
up
before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy,
lazy...but I
think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to
confront
  your
lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be
wrong,
  but
believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good
  meaning.

 Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted.
  When I
asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is
  devoid
of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.

 There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange
post.
  What
has 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when 
 I say anything it is presented as a mental construct. 
 There is no way to speak without a mental constuct. 
 Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental 
 construct' is a mental construct. And there is no 
 daily life interaction on FFL, no interaction with 
 normal people, there is only the symbolic structure 
 of language rolling back and forth, so all I get 
 from you, from, Judy, from Barry, etc., are mental 
 constructs. Then one has to make something of those 
 with what one has, and reply using one's own 
 particular mental construct.

Exactly. 

Believing that what you believe equals truth is
the disease of Narcissism, not the onset of
Enlightenment.





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Richard J. Williams


  You haven't made any kind of case against Robin here.
  All you've done is slung insults, and you've done it 
  sloppily and dishonestly to boot. It's really beneath 
  you...
  
Ravi Chivukula:  
 It always baffles me when I see people taking Xeno's 
 mental constructs so seriously and I know I have always 
 been curious on how he interacts with normal people in 
 his daily life...
 
Who says Xeno interacts with normal people in his daily 
life? You've got at least ten posting here anonymously, 
several of whom make TMer status claims. Who said their
brother was a TMO Raja? LoL! So, what's it all about?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread seventhray1

  There are few who can make insults like Raunchys'.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@
wrote:
  
   LOL! thank you for playing along! Splendid!
  
   you are joking about Barry's age?? not that I want to prolong
this, but can anyone else vouch for authfriend's opinion that Barry is
66 or 67?!?!
  
   Mr. Barry, are you a professional actor, perhaps?
  
   In other universal news, 42.
  
 
  No joke, Doc. Barry is an old fart, easily mistaken for a young
jackass.

 Raunchy just made the 'reply of the week'.
 
 
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@
wrote:

 Hello - I am new on here. I have lurked for a few weeks. (I
learned TM a few years ago.) If I may comment, and ask a question? There
seems to be a lot of different age groups represented here - and I sense
Barry is one of the younger ones, making the same sweeping
generalizations, and having the same glorious, naive dreams of youth.
So, The Doctor inquires, why not let him grow up like the rest of us
have? Cut him a break already --
   
Hi, Doctor, welcome to the fray. Barry's actually 67, I
believe, or maybe 66, so you might want to amend your
inquiry. ;-)
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
Mr. Barry - if indeed you are a man older than I, which I still find 
exceptionally hard to swallow, I find myself genuinely feeling sorry for you. 
Not only are you an old man, but one who seems lonely inside, and distraught. 
your anger at yourself, now turned towards others is a sad and pathetic 
thing...just an observance by The Good Doctor. No Reply Needed. 

My observation comes from your negative attitude toward so much, especially 
parts of your past. To enjoy picking the scab, as you do, often at the expense 
of others, says one big word to me, Mr. Barry: BAGGAGE, and plenty of it. 

Perhaps your wife or girlfriend can help you with it. Not My Problem, just an 
observation by The Good Doctor. You see, I observe and comment, though I am not 
one much for dialogue. After all, who's mind will be changed? So, beg your 
pardon, no reply needed.

who is Curtis? I don't see his name among those who post here, although I am a 
'newbie'.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  Dan,
  
  You realize that this is slanderous and cowardly. And although 
  it does not affect me, I would say that it is grounds for 
  suspension from the group. That would be my recommendation.  
  You are, what's called in the trade, a coward, Dan. A coward 
  is someone who resorts to innuendo when they have nothing 
  to back up their accusations.
 
 7ray, I'd say that Dan just drops right in 
 lately to the general level of obsession and
 insanity that Fairfield Life has devolved to.
 
 Fascinating that my done-for-fun satire yesterday
 about me and Vaj and Curtis being designated as
 Schedule I drugs because people become so obsessed
 with us that they literally become addicted to the
 obsession was proven so incredibly Right On, eh?
 
 As for grounds for suspension, quite frankly I
 think that you're dreaming. Rick is clearly asleep 
 at the wheel, and either doesn't care that the 
 forum he created has become a refuge for crazy
 people, or he really doesn't get it. 
 
 From my point of view, he has now allowed at least
 three certifiably mentally ill people to post here, 
 people who are in desperate need of either therapy or
 commitment to a mental institution. Rick doesn't 
 seem to even notice. Maybe that has something to
 do with the people he interviews as everyday
 enlightened role models. He's lost touch with
 reality, as perceived by most of the world.
 
 He also doesn't seem to notice that over the years
 the quirkiness quotient surrounding TM and the
 TMO has grown so huge that these mentally ill people 
 are not being recognized as the mentally ill people 
 they are. Instead, people who on any other forum 
 would instantly recognize them for what they are 
 and either compassionately ignore them or actively
 encourage them to get help instead *encourage their 
 craziness*. 
 
 They *go out of their way* to get these already
 mentally ill people to become more so. 
 
 And in the process become a little less sane 
 themselves, with every post. 
 
 Do you remember how many people reacted when Ravi
 *first* showed up here? Exactly as I suggest above.
 They were CONCERNED about him, afraid that he was
 having a breakdown, afraid that he'd do harm either
 to himself or his wife, and urging him to get some
 kind of professional help. 
 
 Now they treat him as if he's NORMAL, and *encourage*
 him to act out even more. They do the same thing 
 with Robin, and more recently with Dan Friedman.
 
 Obsessing on another person to the point that 
 people do it on this forum is *not* normal. The
 only even remotely benevolent way I can see the
 phenomenon is that the people engaged in it --
 over a dozen of them, now -- just Don't Have 
 Lives, and this behavior has taken the place of 
 what other, more sane people do for fun and 
 entertainment.
 
 But it really is past the point of funny or enter-
 taining now. You've got people here who think it
 is NORMAL for someone to threaten another person
 with physical harm because they embarrassed them
 in front of their wife a year and a half ago. 
 
 I honestly think that a lot of it really *IS*
 attributable to the Cult Experience. Those who
 have come to believe that their behavior on FFL
 is NORMAL are comparing it to levels of craziness
 they've seen around them in other TMers for 
 decades now, and come to take for granted. They 
 don't see anything the least bit wrong with 
 becoming this obsessive, or acting out one's 
 obsessions in this way. 
 
 Thanks for occasionally being one of the relatively
 sane voices here, Steve. You're definitely in the 
 minority these days, and that's a compliment.





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Richard J. Williams


Bhairitu:
 I guess once a cult leader always a cult 
 leader...

Well, I gues it depends on how you define 
'cult'.

Robert J. Lifton:

Meditation, in itself, is not good or bad. 
But when a venal person wants to sell you 
courses and persuade you to turn over your 
life to him, you must beware. 

If you end up a slave to a money-making 
power-seeking organization that pays no heed 
to the real difficulties you may experience 
as a result of certain practices, that is a 
bad use of those powerful practices. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Strange Cosmic Ride on a Municipal Bus

2012-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
 In most states, if you have
 been convicted of a felony, you lose the right to vote.
 Forever. No appeal.

Actually, only one state (Virginia) permanently
disinfranchises those who have been convicted of a felony.
In most states, there is a process for felons to regain
voting rights after they have served their time (and in
two states, Vermont and Maine, felons can even vote from
prison). Twelve states make it very difficult but not
impossible for felons to regain the right to vote
eventually.

 The vast majority of people convicted of these recently-
 converted-to-felony crimes are minorities, who stat-
 istically vote Democratic. Nationwide, over two million
 African-Americans (13%) have lost the right to vote.
 Two percent of *all* Americans (or 3.9 million) have
 lost the right to vote for this reason.

Actually 5.85 million Americans (2.5%) and 7.7% of
African-Americans are unable to vote because of a felony
conviction as of 2010, the most recent year for which
complete records are available.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Richard J. Williams


turquoiseb:
 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
You got all this information from reading FFL in quick 
view? I thought dfriedman was on your kill list. 

 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
 
So, now it's all about a 'Dan Friedman. Go figure.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
Doctor,

Please contact me if you need a consult. I'm happy to help. I do stand
confident in my early diagnosis, however the symptoms are more acute; ie
seeing threats from everyone, need to stimulate the humiliation
response, to report a few.

I also agree with your principles guiding your non-intervention. ref:
Research in today's NYT on 'How to Move a Mind'.

Always at your service, and on this (nut)Case to its(his) conclusion.


Primum non nocere
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@...
wrote:

 Mr. Barry - if indeed you are a man older than I, which I still find
exceptionally hard to swallow, I find myself genuinely feeling sorry for
you. Not only are you an old man, but one who seems lonely inside, and
distraught. your anger at yourself, now turned towards others is a sad
and pathetic thing...just an observance by The Good Doctor. No Reply
Needed.

 My observation comes from your negative attitude toward so much,
especially parts of your past. To enjoy picking the scab, as you do,
often at the expense of others, says one big word to me, Mr. Barry:
BAGGAGE, and plenty of it.

 Perhaps your wife or girlfriend can help you with it. Not My Problem,
just an observation by The Good Doctor. You see, I observe and comment,
though I am not one much for dialogue. After all, who's mind will be
changed? So, beg your pardon, no reply needed.

 who is Curtis? I don't see his name among those who post here,
although I am a 'newbie'.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
  
   Dan,
  
   You realize that this is slanderous and cowardly. And although
   it does not affect me, I would say that it is grounds for
   suspension from the group. That would be my recommendation.
   You are, what's called in the trade, a coward, Dan. A coward
   is someone who resorts to innuendo when they have nothing
   to back up their accusations.
 
  7ray, I'd say that Dan just drops right in
  lately to the general level of obsession and
  insanity that Fairfield Life has devolved to.
 
  Fascinating that my done-for-fun satire yesterday
  about me and Vaj and Curtis being designated as
  Schedule I drugs because people become so obsessed
  with us that they literally become addicted to the
  obsession was proven so incredibly Right On, eh?
 
  As for grounds for suspension, quite frankly I
  think that you're dreaming. Rick is clearly asleep
  at the wheel, and either doesn't care that the
  forum he created has become a refuge for crazy
  people, or he really doesn't get it.
 
  From my point of view, he has now allowed at least
  three certifiably mentally ill people to post here,
  people who are in desperate need of either therapy or
  commitment to a mental institution. Rick doesn't
  seem to even notice. Maybe that has something to
  do with the people he interviews as everyday
  enlightened role models. He's lost touch with
  reality, as perceived by most of the world.
 
  He also doesn't seem to notice that over the years
  the quirkiness quotient surrounding TM and the
  TMO has grown so huge that these mentally ill people
  are not being recognized as the mentally ill people
  they are. Instead, people who on any other forum
  would instantly recognize them for what they are
  and either compassionately ignore them or actively
  encourage them to get help instead *encourage their
  craziness*.
 
  They *go out of their way* to get these already
  mentally ill people to become more so.
 
  And in the process become a little less sane
  themselves, with every post.
 
  Do you remember how many people reacted when Ravi
  *first* showed up here? Exactly as I suggest above.
  They were CONCERNED about him, afraid that he was
  having a breakdown, afraid that he'd do harm either
  to himself or his wife, and urging him to get some
  kind of professional help.
 
  Now they treat him as if he's NORMAL, and *encourage*
  him to act out even more. They do the same thing
  with Robin, and more recently with Dan Friedman.
 
  Obsessing on another person to the point that
  people do it on this forum is *not* normal. The
  only even remotely benevolent way I can see the
  phenomenon is that the people engaged in it --
  over a dozen of them, now -- just Don't Have
  Lives, and this behavior has taken the place of
  what other, more sane people do for fun and
  entertainment.
 
  But it really is past the point of funny or enter-
  taining now. You've got people here who think it
  is NORMAL for someone to threaten another person
  with physical harm because 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
Richard,

Remember Batty's threatening (hah!) warning: ...To do so is to legally put 
yourself at risk!

Batty's waffling between Threat and Threatened is exactly what I advised him of 
earlier. That together with such anti-social behaviors as stimulating the 
humiliating response from others, decrying the lack of protection from the 
Moderator; which HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE EARLIER ATTACKS THAT HE MADE, when I 
asked if the Moderator could get this guy balanced (hah, again) when he posted 
and emailed and otherwise attempted to get me to humiliate him early on. I of 
course found such degrading behaviors highly unusual, until I found out about 
what appears to be his lifestyle.




Primum non nocere

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:

 
 
 turquoiseb:
  Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
  because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
  mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
  to do recently. 
  
  Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
  records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
  
  This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
  me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
  I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
  delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
  at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
  
 You got all this information from reading FFL in quick 
 view? I thought dfriedman was on your kill list. 
 
  As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
  equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
  
 So, now it's all about a 'Dan Friedman. Go figure.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Richard J. Williams


  You realize that this is slanderous and cowardly. And although 
  it does not affect me, I would say that it is grounds for 
  suspension from the group. That would be my recommendation.  
  You are, what's called in the trade, a coward, Dan. A coward 
  is someone who resorts to innuendo when they have nothing 
  to back up their accusations.
 
turquoiseb:
 As for grounds for suspension, quite frankly I
 think that you're dreaming. Rick is clearly asleep 
 at the wheel...

So, it's all about Rick.

 I honestly think that a lot of it really *IS*
 attributable to the Cult Experience. Those who
 have come to believe that their behavior on FFL
 is NORMAL are comparing it to levels of craziness
 they've seen around them in other TMers for 
 decades now, and come to take for granted. They 
 don't see anything the least bit wrong with 
 becoming this obsessive, or acting out one's 
 obsessions in this way.

Question: Which FFL respondent has been in a cult
the longest?

Rick
Barry
Barry2
Vaj

 From my point of view, he has now allowed at 
 least three certifiably mentally ill people to 
 post here...

Where is Dr Pete when we need him? LoL!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread authfriend
Dan, I've said this before, but I'll say it again for the
record: It's one thing to criticize Barry for his behavior
on FFL; it's quite another to make accusations about his
private life that you cannot publicly back up with evidence.
That's just unacceptable.

BTW, it can be important not to confuse the terms post
and email. Anything sent to Fairfield Life is a post,
whether you read it on the Web site or receive it via
email. Email is what you send to an individual, privately.

We know that Barry did receive an email from you that went
out accidentally from your wife's email address (you had
intended it to be a post to FFL). We know this because Barry
posted to FFL about it. So when he says he never received an
email from you, that's obviously deliberately misleading.

Do you claim you've sent him other emails (i.e., private
communications)? Or when you say you've sent him emails,
do you mean FFL posts directed to him?






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@... wrote:

 seventhray1,
 
 Is this another post responding to Batty, responding to seventhray1, 
 responding to Batty, responding to seventhray1...
 
 You two have something going here. It's brilliant!
 
 It's not only your tone seventhray1, it's your actual uninformed, opinionated 
 words.
 
 There I've said it very simple terms, so that you can understand.
 
 
 Now, go back and party with your Buddy Batty, you two *really* do deserve 
 each other.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
   because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious
   mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
   to do recently.
  Good advice.  His slander is blatant.
   Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the
   records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
  
   This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
   me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
   I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
   delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
   at risk if he ever acts out on his threats.
  
   As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
   equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
   
seventhray1,
   
Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations
  to posts here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave
  Nazi supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
   
Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted
  and disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all
  tied-up-in-your=panties about my correcting you. Why don't you admit
  that you were wrong and move on? Good friendly advice.
   
The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't
  completely wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the
  true Batty is sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained
  that I would not have had to post anything had Batty replied to my
  friendly-tone emails.
   
And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The enemy of my enemy is my friend

2012-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
 WHY he seemed normal was that he *joined them* in their online
 harassment and persecution of the woman in question. It was more
 important to them to get the woman they collectively disliked 
 than to notice that he was in a fragile mental state, and in need
 of *help* in dealing with his psychological problems, not in
 acting them out.
 
 Does any of this sound *familiar* to Fairfield Life members?

Only by way of your posts pretending that it happens here.

 This shit is dangerous, people. You're messing with fragile
 and unbalanced personalities

You mean to say people who *in my opinion* are fragile
and unbalanced personalities.

But that's a little problematic because you tend to
portray anyone who criticizes or disagrees with you as a
fragile and unbalanced personality.

, and attempting to *use* them to either exact
 retribution for grudges you've been carrying for years, or
 to support fantasy ideas about enlightenment or the spiritual
 process you've been clinging to for years.

And this is pure fantasy that even you are aware is not
true. That you keep pushing this absurd notion in an
attempt to get back at your critics leads some of us to
wonder whether the fragile and unbalanced personality
is you.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
Judy,

When I wrote 'email' I refer to private communications. When I wrote 'Post I 
specifically meant Post to FFL. I hope this clarification helps, as I have been 
very careful to choose the proper language throughout. No need to fuel the 
DELIBERATE MISUNDERSTANDING that some play around with. You, of course are 
quite literal, so you may not suspect that kind of behavior. Everything that I 
write is precise, whether thru email, or Post to FFL. Thank you for requesting 
this clarification, which can only highlight Batty's Duplicity.


For further clarification: As I recently POSTED to my new friend seventhray1, I 
sometime get a little less precise in my POSTS TO BATTY. I guess he just sets 
me off, sometimes.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 Dan, I've said this before, but I'll say it again for the
 record: It's one thing to criticize Barry for his behavior
 on FFL; it's quite another to make accusations about his
 private life that you cannot publicly back up with evidence.
 That's just unacceptable.
 
 BTW, it can be important not to confuse the terms post
 and email. Anything sent to Fairfield Life is a post,
 whether you read it on the Web site or receive it via
 email. Email is what you send to an individual, privately.
 
 We know that Barry did receive an email from you that went
 out accidentally from your wife's email address (you had
 intended it to be a post to FFL). We know this because Barry
 posted to FFL about it. So when he says he never received an
 email from you, that's obviously deliberately misleading.
 
 Do you claim you've sent him other emails (i.e., private
 communications)? Or when you say you've sent him emails,
 do you mean FFL posts directed to him?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Is this another post responding to Batty, responding to seventhray1, 
  responding to Batty, responding to seventhray1...
  
  You two have something going here. It's brilliant!
  
  It's not only your tone seventhray1, it's your actual uninformed, 
  opinionated words.
  
  There I've said it very simple terms, so that you can understand.
  
  
  Now, go back and party with your Buddy Batty, you two *really* do deserve 
  each other.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   
Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious
mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
to do recently.
   Good advice.  His slander is blatant.
Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the
records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
   
This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
at risk if he ever acts out on his threats.
   
As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:

 seventhray1,

 Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations
   to posts here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave
   Nazi supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.

 Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted
   and disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all
   tied-up-in-your=panties about my correcting you. Why don't you admit
   that you were wrong and move on? Good friendly advice.

 The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't
   completely wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the
   true Batty is sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained
   that I would not have had to post anything had Batty replied to my
   friendly-tone emails.

 And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.





[FairfieldLife] Qualities of the object

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
After my brief time here, The Good Doctor observes that the FFL dynamic 
revolves around the quality of objects. Example, one person says something 
offensive to another, or the group, perhaps writes a little essay on how most 
here are, well, unhinged, and/or stupid. 

The reaction of some is outrage, anger, and generally calling to an end of such 
behavior.

The originator then claims that the reactive members are now showing their 
true, and invariably negative, colors. 

EXCEPT, if the offender had not expressed the ugly opinion in the first place, 
the reactions would not have come. 

The quality of all that follows, begins with the originating object. To claim 
otherwise is to argue, for example, that the baseball has nothing to do with 
the game.

So, the offender by being offensive, creates a reality to the others that rests 
solely with him or her. There is no reason for a reaction of any kind, if no 
one is being socially or personally offensive. 

The quality remains with the object. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: The enemy of my enemy is my friend

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
dear authfriend, it is far easier to build a nice new home, than to continually 
attempt to fix another's that is shoddy, and always in need of repair - kindly, 
The Good Doctor. in SBAL it says you can tell by the outside of a dwelling, the 
consciousness of the inhabitants.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  WHY he seemed normal was that he *joined them* in their online
  harassment and persecution of the woman in question. It was more
  important to them to get the woman they collectively disliked 
  than to notice that he was in a fragile mental state, and in need
  of *help* in dealing with his psychological problems, not in
  acting them out.
  
  Does any of this sound *familiar* to Fairfield Life members?
 
 Only by way of your posts pretending that it happens here.
 
  This shit is dangerous, people. You're messing with fragile
  and unbalanced personalities
 
 You mean to say people who *in my opinion* are fragile
 and unbalanced personalities.
 
 But that's a little problematic because you tend to
 portray anyone who criticizes or disagrees with you as a
 fragile and unbalanced personality.
 
 , and attempting to *use* them to either exact
  retribution for grudges you've been carrying for years, or
  to support fantasy ideas about enlightenment or the spiritual
  process you've been clinging to for years.
 
 And this is pure fantasy that even you are aware is not
 true. That you keep pushing this absurd notion in an
 attempt to get back at your critics leads some of us to
 wonder whether the fragile and unbalanced personality
 is you.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The enemy of my enemy is my friend

2012-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 dear authfriend, it is far easier to build a nice new home, than to 
 continually attempt to fix another's that is shoddy, and always in need of 
 repair - kindly, The Good Doctor. in SBAL it says you can tell by the outside 
 of a dwelling, the consciousness of the inhabitants.

Doc, although I addressed Barry directly, it was not in an
attempt to fix him, simply to correct his assertions for
the record.

And if you'll forgive me, while your observations are
interesting, it's generally not considered good form for a
newbie to a forum to instruct its members in how to conduct 
themselves. Stick around, participate in conversations, get
to know the other members, absorb some of the context of
the group and its dynamics. Then you'll be in a better
position to offer advice.



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  snip
   WHY he seemed normal was that he *joined them* in their online
   harassment and persecution of the woman in question. It was more
   important to them to get the woman they collectively disliked 
   than to notice that he was in a fragile mental state, and in need
   of *help* in dealing with his psychological problems, not in
   acting them out.
   
   Does any of this sound *familiar* to Fairfield Life members?
  
  Only by way of your posts pretending that it happens here.
  
   This shit is dangerous, people. You're messing with fragile
   and unbalanced personalities
  
  You mean to say people who *in my opinion* are fragile
  and unbalanced personalities.
  
  But that's a little problematic because you tend to
  portray anyone who criticizes or disagrees with you as a
  fragile and unbalanced personality.
  
  , and attempting to *use* them to either exact
   retribution for grudges you've been carrying for years, or
   to support fantasy ideas about enlightenment or the spiritual
   process you've been clinging to for years.
  
  And this is pure fantasy that even you are aware is not
  true. That you keep pushing this absurd notion in an
  attempt to get back at your critics leads some of us to
  wonder whether the fragile and unbalanced personality
  is you.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread seventhray1


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@...
wrote:
snip
 For further clarification: As I recently POSTED to my new friend
seventhray1, I sometime get a little less precise in my POSTS TO BATTY.
I guess he just sets me off, sometimes.

Oh really!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the object

2012-08-19 Thread seventhray1

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@...
wrote:

 After my brief time here, The Good Doctor observes that the FFL
dynamic revolves around the quality of objects. Example, one person says
something offensive to another, or the group, perhaps writes a little
essay on how most here are, well, unhinged, and/or stupid.

 The reaction of some is outrage, anger, and generally calling to an
end of such behavior.

 The originator then claims that the reactive members are now showing
their true, and invariably negative, colors.

 EXCEPT, if the offender had not expressed the ugly opinion in the
first place, the reactions would not have come.

 The quality of all that follows, begins with the originating object.
To claim otherwise is to argue, for example, that the baseball has
nothing to do with the game.

 So, the offender by being offensive, creates a reality to the others
that rests solely with him or her. There is no reason for a reaction of
any kind, if no one is being socially or personally offensive.

 The quality remains with the object.

Andthe cheese stands alone.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002

Sometimes, I must confess; given my usual objective moderation. 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
 wrote:
 snip
  For further clarification: As I recently POSTED to my new friend
 seventhray1, I sometime get a little less precise in my POSTS TO BATTY.
 I guess he just sets me off, sometimes.
 
 Oh really!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the object

2012-08-19 Thread danfriedman2002
Yes, of course Doctor, he quality [always]remains with the object. The Original 
Batty Offender, however, perpetuates the baseball game as his only intent is 
to be hit with the balls, screaming: Harder, Harder!.


The Treatment is beyond the reach of Science. Hopeless, terminal case. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 After my brief time here, The Good Doctor observes that the FFL dynamic 
 revolves around the quality of objects. Example, one person says something 
 offensive to another, or the group, perhaps writes a little essay on how most 
 here are, well, unhinged, and/or stupid. 
 
 The reaction of some is outrage, anger, and generally calling to an end of 
 such behavior.
 
 The originator then claims that the reactive members are now showing their 
 true, and invariably negative, colors. 
 
 EXCEPT, if the offender had not expressed the ugly opinion in the first 
 place, the reactions would not have come. 
 
 The quality of all that follows, begins with the originating object. To claim 
 otherwise is to argue, for example, that the baseball has nothing to do with 
 the game.
 
 So, the offender by being offensive, creates a reality to the others that 
 rests solely with him or her. There is no reason for a reaction of any kind, 
 if no one is being socially or personally offensive. 
 
 The quality remains with the object.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the object

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
ah...holier than thou - are you Swiss?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  After my brief time here, The Good Doctor observes that the FFL
 dynamic revolves around the quality of objects. Example, one person says
 something offensive to another, or the group, perhaps writes a little
 essay on how most here are, well, unhinged, and/or stupid.
 
  The reaction of some is outrage, anger, and generally calling to an
 end of such behavior.
 
  The originator then claims that the reactive members are now showing
 their true, and invariably negative, colors.
 
  EXCEPT, if the offender had not expressed the ugly opinion in the
 first place, the reactions would not have come.
 
  The quality of all that follows, begins with the originating object.
 To claim otherwise is to argue, for example, that the baseball has
 nothing to do with the game.
 
  So, the offender by being offensive, creates a reality to the others
 that rests solely with him or her. There is no reason for a reaction of
 any kind, if no one is being socially or personally offensive.
 
  The quality remains with the object.
 
 Andthe cheese stands alone.





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote:
 
  OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno, dear 
  Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind, utterly 
  threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a 
  dilemma?
 
 Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I was 
 speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute what he 
 says.

Right. You accused him of not making sense, of being deceptive,
and of using the concept of first-person ontology to divide
and conquer. All without providing a single example.

snip
 Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when I say
 anything it is presented as a mental construct.

One has an obligation, however, IMHO, to ensure that the
mental constructs one presents are created with integrity,
and that they are as clear, fair, and accurate as one can
possibly make them. That these constructs are not Absolute
Truth does not relieve one from the responsibility of 
maintaining intellectual honesty.

snip
 Azgrey's post(s) were rather interesting assaults on Robin. I felt the 
 general tenor of the content somewhat appropriate, considering some of the 
 other posts in a similar vein that were more direct, and based on those 
 persons' having known Robin. Robin has the intellectual kutzpah to deal with 
 that post.

There was nothing to be dealt with in those posts other than
to point out that they were pastiches of remarks made by
other writers about other people in other circumstances, with
Robin's name repeatedly spliced in; and that the vast majority
of these remarks did not, in fact, apply to Robin.

They were at best a mildly amusing gag at Robin's expense,
hardly qualifying as interesting assaults on Robin in
any other sense.

 Judy was correct in that I cannot quite fathom Robin, but I
 am not sure she does either. I feel Judy is always down in
 the trenches, logically precise, but does not see the general
 sweep of the battle.

Judy deals with what's in the trenches because far too often,
inaccurate, misleading, and/or dishonest reports from the
trenches result in a seriously distorted picture of the 
general sweep of the battle.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the object

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
The Good Doctor's Rx: 
1. let alone the bruised mass of flesh that craves being hit, so that it can 
heal, or seek dysfunction elsewhere.
2. if nine innings have passed, the game is over.
3. the quality remains with the object; see number 1.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@... wrote:

 Yes, of course Doctor, he quality [always]remains with the object. The 
 Original Batty Offender, however, perpetuates the baseball game as his only 
 intent is to be hit with the balls, screaming: Harder, Harder!.
 
 
 The Treatment is beyond the reach of Science. Hopeless, terminal case. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  After my brief time here, The Good Doctor observes that the FFL dynamic 
  revolves around the quality of objects. Example, one person says something 
  offensive to another, or the group, perhaps writes a little essay on how 
  most here are, well, unhinged, and/or stupid. 
  
  The reaction of some is outrage, anger, and generally calling to an end of 
  such behavior.
  
  The originator then claims that the reactive members are now showing their 
  true, and invariably negative, colors. 
  
  EXCEPT, if the offender had not expressed the ugly opinion in the first 
  place, the reactions would not have come. 
  
  The quality of all that follows, begins with the originating object. To 
  claim otherwise is to argue, for example, that the baseball has nothing to 
  do with the game.
  
  So, the offender by being offensive, creates a reality to the others that 
  rests solely with him or her. There is no reason for a reaction of any 
  kind, if no one is being socially or personally offensive. 
  
  The quality remains with the object.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the object

2012-08-19 Thread seventhray1

naw, I think I'm closer to muenster.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@...
wrote:

 ah...holier than thou - are you Swiss?

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@
  wrote:
  
   After my brief time here, The Good Doctor observes that the FFL
  dynamic revolves around the quality of objects. Example, one person
says
  something offensive to another, or the group, perhaps writes a
little
  essay on how most here are, well, unhinged, and/or stupid.
  
   The reaction of some is outrage, anger, and generally calling to
an
  end of such behavior.
  
   The originator then claims that the reactive members are now
showing
  their true, and invariably negative, colors.
  
   EXCEPT, if the offender had not expressed the ugly opinion in the
  first place, the reactions would not have come.
  
   The quality of all that follows, begins with the originating
object.
  To claim otherwise is to argue, for example, that the baseball has
  nothing to do with the game.
  
   So, the offender by being offensive, creates a reality to the
others
  that rests solely with him or her. There is no reason for a reaction
of
  any kind, if no one is being socially or personally offensive.
  
   The quality remains with the object.
  
  Andthe cheese stands alone.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
http://tinyurl.com/8en6erd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olXUIcb80N0

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
 that here.

  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oh my cold, heartless Xeno,

It's unfortunate that you can't see how utterly immobilized you are by your
mental constructs, by your beliefs - indeed this is why Robin cleans your
clock every single time, albeit in his  own way, gently, persistently
reminding of how far your mental constructs, beliefs keep you away from
reality, you are a sitting duck - I feel pity for you petty, vain minds
suffering from incorrigible, contagious form of IED (Intellectual
Enlightenment Disorder).

Look at this interaction I had with a one Dr. Conway on Ammachi free speech
list, as soon as I read him, I chuckled - I realized this was another case
of IED that's been a scourge of this nation - and that he should be a piece
of cake for me to handle, like Xeno

I baited him -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7341

He feel hook, line and sinker -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7342

I decimated him (last few paras) -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7368

Poor bastard - I haven't heard back from him - probably retreated to the
safety and solace of his neo-advaita brethren.

As it stands now Robin  I have disagreements on what Enlightenment is and
I will not allow sickly, delirious patients of IED such as yourself to
muddy the waters here.

I'll come hard at you Xeno - every single time, at my fancy, at my pleasure.

Because unlike your mental constructs such as this gem here - I do find
Ravi particularly annoying, but I have the choice (in free-will terms) to
ignore him ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301358) -
I don't live in my head.

I love you baby.

Ravi.


On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno, dear
 Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind, utterly
 threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a
 dilemma?

 Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I
 was speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute what
 he says.


  Having said I did find dumbaz's gags very funny, laughing loud reading
 another one his posts, the one Share responded to, while waiting for my
 dinner order here at a restaurant. That these morons are so stuck in their
 heads is really sad - they could have just had fun, come with witty
 responses, retorts but all we have is their repugnant prejudices exposed in
 such a pathetic fashion.
 
  It always baffles me when I see people taking Xeno's mental constructs
 so seriously and I know I have always been curious on how he interacts with
 normal people in his daily life, I have asked him before and all I got was
 more mental constructs.

 Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when I say anything it is
 presented as a mental construct. There is no way to speak without a mental
 constuct. Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental construct' is a
 mental construct. And there is no daily life interaction on FFL, no
 interaction with normal people, there is only the symbolic structure of
 language rolling back and forth, so all I get from you, from, Judy, from
 Barry, etc., are mental constructs. Then one has to make something of those
 with what one has, and reply using one's own particular mental construct.

 You operate from the level of your gut perhaps more than anyone here. I do
 operate that way sometimes, but it is much more subdued especially compared
 to you, if I interpret the text you write here. It was perhaps that
 over-emotional style of yours that gets you booted off here at times. The
 human mind creates a world, and the separate worlds of human interaction do
 not line up in neat coherent rows. As I am like a separate alien universe
 to you, so you are to me, when comparing our mental styles. Our emotional
 palettes are vastly different.

 Azgrey's post(s) were rather interesting assaults on Robin. I felt the
 general tenor of the content somewhat appropriate, considering some of the
 other posts in a similar vein that were more direct, and based on those
 persons' having known Robin. Robin has the intellectual kutzpah to deal
 with that post. Judy was correct in that I cannot quite fathom Robin, but I
 am not sure she does either. I feel Judy is always down in the trenches,
 logically precise, but does not see the general sweep of the battle. I used
 to think in ways a lot like Judy. I was, and still am probably in a
 different way, insufferable. Judy does it with a scope and precision I
 could never have mustered. It takes too much energy.

 And how I interact with normal people in my daily life, well, that is a
 deep deep secret of the universe, hidden from the eyes of dear dear Ravi.

  Love,
  Ravi

  



RE: [FairfieldLife] makes clear where Rick Archer's sympathies ly

2012-08-19 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of sri...@ymail.com
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:30 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] makes clear where Rick Archer's sympathies ly

 

  

use any analogy to explain away Amma's weird behaviour

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7334

Please look up the meaning of the word possibility.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the object

2012-08-19 Thread Share Long
Good doc's Rx so revolutionary!  One quivers at the thought of such an 
outlandish prescription.  Especially that #1 (-:




 From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 12:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the object
 

  
The Good Doctor's Rx: 
1. let alone the bruised mass of flesh that craves being hit, so that it can 
heal, or seek dysfunction elsewhere.
2. if nine innings have passed, the game is over.
3. the quality remains with the object; see number 1.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@... wrote:

 Yes, of course Doctor, he quality [always]remains with the object. The 
 Original Batty Offender, however, perpetuates the baseball game as his only 
 intent is to be hit with the balls, screaming: Harder, Harder!.
 
 
 The Treatment is beyond the reach of Science. Hopeless, terminal case. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  After my brief time here, The Good Doctor observes that the FFL dynamic 
  revolves around the quality of objects. Example, one person says something 
  offensive to another, or the group, perhaps writes a little essay on how 
  most here are, well, unhinged, and/or stupid. 
  
  The reaction of some is outrage, anger, and generally calling to an end of 
  such behavior.
  
  The originator then claims that the reactive members are now showing their 
  true, and invariably negative, colors. 
  
  EXCEPT, if the offender had not expressed the ugly opinion in the first 
  place, the reactions would not have come. 
  
  The quality of all that follows, begins with the originating object. To 
  claim otherwise is to argue, for example, that the baseball has nothing to 
  do with the game.
  
  So, the offender by being offensive, creates a reality to the others that 
  rests solely with him or her. There is no reason for a reaction of any 
  kind, if no one is being socially or personally offensive. 
  
  The quality remains with the object.
 



 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Share Long
Hey! no
love,
Ravi 

for Good doc!  




 From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I 
drugs
 

  
Doctor Dumbass,

Don't you let King Baby Barry steal my glory - I am the the youngest here - I 
could be wrong.

Anyway, King Baby is indeed in his 60's as Judy says, however his notoriety on 
this list is not because of his physical age but his emotional age, - there are 
lot of varying opinions, bitter battles, lot of mud slinging, slandering, all 
kinds of drama surrounding discussions on his emotional maturity, but even 
bitter opponents, experts on both sides of the aisle agree it's between 6 to 9.

Welcome to the list.



On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
  
LOL! thank you for playing along! Splendid! 

you are joking about Barry's age?? not that I want to prolong this, but can 
anyone else vouch for authfriend's opinion that Barry is 66 or 67?!?! 

Mr. Barry, are you a professional actor, perhaps?

In other universal news, 42.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Hello - I am new on here. I have lurked for a few weeks. (I learned TM a 
  few years ago.) If I may comment, and ask a question? There seems to be a 
  lot of different age groups represented here - and I sense Barry is one of 
  the younger ones, making the same sweeping generalizations, and having the 
  same glorious, naive dreams of youth. So, The Doctor inquires, why not let 
  him grow up like the rest of us have? Cut him a break already --
 

 Hi, Doctor, welcome to the fray. Barry's actually 67, I
 believe, or maybe 66, so you might want to amend your
 inquiry. ;-)




 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 Hey! no
 love,
 Ravi
 for Good doc!


http://youtu.be/KV2ssT8lzj8



   --
 *From:* Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:12 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as
 Schedule I drugs


 Doctor Dumbass,

 Don't you let King Baby Barry steal my glory - I am the the youngest here
 - I could be wrong.

 Anyway, King Baby is indeed in his 60's as Judy says, however his
 notoriety on this list is not because of his physical age but his emotional
 age, - there are lot of varying opinions, bitter battles, lot of mud
 slinging, slandering, all kinds of drama surrounding discussions on his
 emotional maturity, but even bitter opponents, experts on both sides of the
 aisle agree it's between 6 to 9.

 Welcome to the list.


 On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 **

  LOL! thank you for playing along! Splendid!

 you are joking about Barry's age?? not that I want to prolong this, but
 can anyone else vouch for authfriend's opinion that Barry is 66 or 67?!?!

 Mr. Barry, are you a professional actor, perhaps?

 In other universal news, 42.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Hello - I am new on here. I have lurked for a few weeks. (I learned TM
 a few years ago.) If I may comment, and ask a question? There seems to be a
 lot of different age groups represented here - and I sense Barry is one of
 the younger ones, making the same sweeping generalizations, and having the
 same glorious, naive dreams of youth. So, The Doctor inquires, why not let
 him grow up like the rest of us have? Cut him a break already --
 
  Hi, Doctor, welcome to the fray. Barry's actually 67, I
  believe, or maybe 66, so you might want to amend your
  inquiry. ;-)
 




   



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
  Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when 
  I say anything it is presented as a mental construct. 
  There is no way to speak without a mental constuct. 
  Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental 
  construct' is a mental construct. And there is no 
  daily life interaction on FFL, no interaction with 
  normal people, there is only the symbolic structure 
  of language rolling back and forth, so all I get 
  from you, from, Judy, from Barry, etc., are mental 
  constructs. Then one has to make something of those 
  with what one has, and reply using one's own 
  particular mental construct.
 
 Exactly. 
 
 Believing that what you believe equals truth is
 the disease of Narcissism, not the onset of
 Enlightenment.

http://tinyurl.com/csuezw3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvoPLHIkYw




Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: Total Recall - the 2012 version

2012-08-19 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/19/2012 12:08 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
 Philip K. Dick had a brain full of odd but wonderful
 ideas. Unfortunately, the cinema has not always been
 kind to them. Possibly the best example of taking one
 of his stories and running with it is Blade Runner,
 but the list of truly admirable efforts kinda stops
 there.

 Minority Report was a special effects-laden snore,
 Next was so horribly miscast that it was near to
 impossible to focus on its good points, and Paycheck
 barely even deserves to be mentioned. The only film
 made from a PKD film that I thought was pretty good
 was the little-seen 2001 Impostor, and that was
 mainly because Gary Sinise was tremendous in it.

 As for the first film based (loosely) on PKD's short
 story We Can Remember It For You Wholesale, that
 was actually kinda enjoyable because Ahnold's
 general cluelessness and constant I'm out of my
 depth here acting fit what his character was going
 through. It's a challenging thing discovering that
 you're not who you thought you were, and Ahnold
 almost pulled that off in the 1990 version of Total
 Recall.

 The new 2012 version keeps a little of PKD's original
 plot, the image of a woman with three breasts, and
 even throws in a clever in-joke reference to the
 previous film (if you see it, there is a scene where
 Douglas Quaid/Hauser is going through a checkpoint
 scanner, and the woman in front of him in line is
 the same woman from the 1990 film). The new film
 loses the whole Mars thang (and good riddance) and
 replaces it with an Earth devastated by chemical
 warfare, with only two livable areas -- the UK and
 Australia. They are connected by some sort of tunnel
 mechanism that serfs from the UK are required to
 hop into to commute through the Earth to work in
 The Colony. It's called The Fall, presumably because
 it sorta falls through the Earth and comes up on
 the other side. The fact that the other side of the
 Earth from the UK is in the middle of the Pacific
 Ocean and not in Australia shouldn't cause you any
 disbelief -- this is science fiction, remember, and
 you're supposed to suspend disbelief while watch-
 ing it.

 Bzzzt. That's exactly what is wrong with the
 2012 Total Recall. You have to suspend disbelief
 FAR too much, because so little of it makes sense.
 Good science fiction is internally consistent, and
 even if it makes up new rules for the environment
 it imagines, it has to stay true to them, and try
 to make them *at least* be slightly plausible.
 Simply not happening in the new version.

 It's basically a non-stop action film, a kind of
 video game on steroids, aimed (one must assume) at
 the kind of adolescent audience (it *is* rated
 PG-13, after all) who have rotted their brains away
 by staring at computer screens and trying to kill
 as many video bad guys as possible. You're not
 supposed to notice that much of the action is
 physically impossible, and that heat and G-forces
 would have turned our hero into something looking
 a lot like strawberry jam in the first reel.

 Colin Farrell is earnest and in some films, given
 enough to chew on as an actor to demonstrate it.
 This is not one of those films. Kate Beckinsale
 does a good job of being a bitch, and Jessica Biel
 does a good job of what she's good at -- being
 beautiful. Bryan Cranston is all but wasted in
 the part of Cohaagen. He probably took the role
 because he could fly in for a couple of days and
 shoot all of his scenes and then go back to
 Breaking Bad, and quite frankly, he might have
 been able to deliver a better performance (given
 the lines he had to deliver) by staying home
 and *literally* phoning in his performance.

 Was there anything GOOD about the movie? Absolutely.
 If you're into non-stop action, and don't want much
 else in a movie, this is your movie. The sets are
 stunning, in a Blade Runner kind of way, and
 create fascinating visions of both the UK and
 Australia in this not-so-happy future era.

 For many people, this would be enough. For me, not
 so much. And I have to believe that Philip K. Dick
 himself is turning in his grave right about now,
 thinking Oh NO! Not another one. What is so hard
 about taking a minor masterpiece and just trans-
 lating it to the screen, without trying to 'improve'
 it by dumbing it down?

 I shudder to think what Hollywood is going to do
 with the upcoming Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said
 and Ubik. The latter -- a science fiction novel
 based on the Tibetan Book Of The Dead -- deserves
 a faithful translation to the screen. I think we all
 know that it isn't going to get one.

Being a questionable remake AND PG-13 I stayed away from it even though 
it is playing at the top of the hill.  Might make a good rental.

Probably the most authentic adaptation of a Philip K Dick novel would 
be A Scanner Darkly.  Dick's daughter Isa Dick-Hacket assisted 
writer/director Richard Linklater in the making of this film.   She is 
also on the commentary and there is also an extra about 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.comwrote:

 **




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
 anartaxius@ wrote:
  
   Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when
   I say anything it is presented as a mental construct.
   There is no way to speak without a mental constuct.
   Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental
   construct' is a mental construct. And there is no
   daily life interaction on FFL, no interaction with
   normal people, there is only the symbolic structure
   of language rolling back and forth, so all I get
   from you, from, Judy, from Barry, etc., are mental
   constructs. Then one has to make something of those
   with what one has, and reply using one's own
   particular mental construct.
 
  Exactly.
 
  Believing that what you believe equals truth is
  the disease of Narcissism, not the onset of
  Enlightenment.

 http://tinyurl.com/csuezw3

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvoPLHIkYw



This is awesome - thanks for the link, I will watch the whole thing -
here's one of the gems I liked - *Is she pretty? She behaves as if she
were beautiful, all American women do, it's the secret of their charm *:-)


[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 Oh my cold, heartless Xeno,
 
 It's unfortunate that you can't see how utterly immobilized you are by your
 mental constructs, by your beliefs - indeed this is why Robin cleans your
 clock every single time, albeit in his own way, gently, persistently
 reminding of how far your mental constructs, beliefs keep you away from
 reality, you are a sitting duck - I feel pity for you petty, vain minds
 suffering from incorrigible, contagious form of IED (Intellectual
 Enlightenment Disorder).

Your humility, Ravi, is overpowering.

 Look at this interaction I had with a one Dr. Conway on Ammachi free speech
 list, as soon as I read him, I chuckled - I realized this was another case
 of IED that's been a scourge of this nation - and that he should be a piece
 of cake for me to handle, like Xeno
 
 I baited him -
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7341
 
 He feel hook, line and sinker -
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7342
 
 I decimated him (last few paras) -
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7368
 
 Poor bastard - I haven't heard back from him - probably retreated to the
 safety and solace of his neo-advaita brethren.
 
 As it stands now Robin  I have disagreements on what Enlightenment is and
 I will not allow sickly, delirious patients of IED such as yourself to
 muddy the waters here.

This is a nice, clear statement. What do you feel the points are upon which you 
disagree with Robin? And, if I muddy the waters here, as long as Rick and Alex 
let me be on this forum, I could muddy the waters as much as desired. But being 
cold and heartless, how much do you think I could really stir up?
 
 I'll come hard at you Xeno - every single time, at my fancy, at my pleasure.
 
 Because unlike your mental constructs such as this gem here - I do find
 Ravi particularly annoying, but I have the choice (in free-will terms) to
 ignore him ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301358) -
 I don't live in my head.

As for the 'gem' above, that was written shortly before you were outed from 
here, and I did experience annoyance at your antics. The statement about free 
will was not entirely serious as I do not really believe in free will; I used 
the words because that is how I think most people experience choice, that is 
why the comment was in parentheses.

Stating that you do not live in your head and are minus mental constructs does 
not meant that is true, I firmly hold that it is not possible to express 
yourself in language without mental concepts. You used the concept 'I' several 
times. You listed many of your accomplishments in decimating others' arguments;

*I baited him.
*he fell hook, line, and sinker
*I decimated him

Simple verbal abuse is not independent of concepts, and it does not require 
much intelligence either, you are being lazy. Maybe your work requires a lot of 
mental energy, and when you come here, it is easier not to think but to 
mindlessly emote. Seven months in the offline FFL cooler has not reduced your 
temperature much. But as you come back, you must like it here. Welcome.

Mental constructs are a partial value of experience, they have a certain place. 
Experience has a more unbounded aspect, a more silent aspect. Even emotions are 
similar to mental constructs, they are more primitive and less focused than the 
intellect. They are also necessary for the experience of fulfillment; the 
intellect however well developed, cannot substitute for basic feeling.

X 

I love you baby.
 
 Ravi.
 
 
 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
 anartaxius@... wrote:
 
 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
 wrote:

 OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno, dear
 Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind, utterly
 threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a
 dilemma?

 Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I
 was speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute what
 he says.


 Having said I did find dumbaz's gags very funny, laughing loud reading
 another one his posts, the one Share responded to, while waiting for my
 dinner order here at a restaurant. That these morons are so stuck in their
 heads is really sad - they could have just had fun, come with witty
 responses, retorts but all we have is their repugnant prejudices exposed in
 such a pathetic fashion.

 It always baffles me when I see people taking Xeno's mental constructs
 so seriously and I know I have always been curious on how he interacts with
 normal people in his daily life, I have asked him before and all I got was
 more mental constructs.

 Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when I say anything it is
 presented as a mental construct. There is no way to speak 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Now, I like this Xeno !

Now you are finally starting to show some heart..keep at it !!!

Perhaps one day I will indulge in intellectual discussions with you, not
right now because you already burdened by your muddled, muddied,
meanderings - like Robin says, first be true to your first person ontology,
let the reality in baby.

Love,
Ravi.


On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  Oh my cold, heartless Xeno,
 
  It's unfortunate that you can't see how utterly immobilized you are by
 your
  mental constructs, by your beliefs - indeed this is why Robin cleans your
  clock every single time, albeit in his own way, gently, persistently
  reminding of how far your mental constructs, beliefs keep you away from
  reality, you are a sitting duck - I feel pity for you petty, vain minds
  suffering from incorrigible, contagious form of IED (Intellectual
  Enlightenment Disorder).

 Your humility, Ravi, is overpowering.


  Look at this interaction I had with a one Dr. Conway on Ammachi free
 speech
  list, as soon as I read him, I chuckled - I realized this was another
 case
  of IED that's been a scourge of this nation - and that he should be a
 piece
  of cake for me to handle, like Xeno
 
  I baited him -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7341
 
  He feel hook, line and sinker -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7342
 
  I decimated him (last few paras) -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7368
 
  Poor bastard - I haven't heard back from him - probably retreated to the
  safety and solace of his neo-advaita brethren.
 
  As it stands now Robin  I have disagreements on what Enlightenment is
 and
  I will not allow sickly, delirious patients of IED such as yourself to
  muddy the waters here.

 This is a nice, clear statement. What do you feel the points are upon
 which you disagree with Robin? And, if I muddy the waters here, as long as
 Rick and Alex let me be on this forum, I could muddy the waters as much as
 desired. But being cold and heartless, how much do you think I could really
 stir up?

 
  I'll come hard at you Xeno - every single time, at my fancy, at my
 pleasure.
 
  Because unlike your mental constructs such as this gem here - I do find
  Ravi particularly annoying, but I have the choice (in free-will terms) to
  ignore him ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301358)
 -
  I don't live in my head.

 As for the 'gem' above, that was written shortly before you were outed
 from here, and I did experience annoyance at your antics. The statement
 about free will was not entirely serious as I do not really believe in free
 will; I used the words because that is how I think most people experience
 choice, that is why the comment was in parentheses.

 Stating that you do not live in your head and are minus mental constructs
 does not meant that is true, I firmly hold that it is not possible to
 express yourself in language without mental concepts. You used the concept
 'I' several times. You listed many of your accomplishments in decimating
 others' arguments;

 *I baited him.
 *he fell hook, line, and sinker
 *I decimated him

 Simple verbal abuse is not independent of concepts, and it does not
 require much intelligence either, you are being lazy. Maybe your work
 requires a lot of mental energy, and when you come here, it is easier not
 to think but to mindlessly emote. Seven months in the offline FFL cooler
 has not reduced your temperature much. But as you come back, you must like
 it here. Welcome.

 Mental constructs are a partial value of experience, they have a certain
 place. Experience has a more unbounded aspect, a more silent aspect. Even
 emotions are similar to mental constructs, they are more primitive and less
 focused than the intellect. They are also necessary for the experience of
 fulfillment; the intellect however well developed, cannot substitute for
 basic feeling.

 X

 I love you baby.
 
  Ravi.
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
  anartaxius@... wrote:
 
  **

 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
  wrote:
 
  OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno,
 dear
  Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind,
 utterly
  threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a
  dilemma?
 
  Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I
  was speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute
 what
  he says.
 
 
  Having said I did find dumbaz's gags very funny, laughing loud reading
  another one his posts, the one Share responded to, while waiting for my
  dinner order here at a restaurant. That these morons are so stuck in
 their
  heads is really sad - they could 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.

http://tinyurl.com/bve4kz7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64yianfGvzc

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
 that here.

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
And Xeno baby - I have never claimed humility, I'm no Dalai Lama who
masquerades as humble to beguile, bewitch the naive, gullible Westerners,
for their money, for their support.

However I have explained myself as thus - my supreme arrogance yet genuine
humility - in fact I feel my humility is merely a product of my arrogance.
You most likely don't have kids - but think like a parent. A parent is both
arrogant and genuinely humble towards his children, because the children
are but his/her creation, you can never, ever take away the sense of
ownership, the subjective sense of ownership, the parent feels towards his
kids. Once someone, in reference to my mystical exploits, asked how I feel
- I said - I feel like I own your ass.

I was born arrogant, my mother, my siblings, only served to reinforce this
arrogance, but the existence punished me, rightly so, and I was humiliated,
harassed, hounded to learn humility, to respect authority, to learn the
rules of the game, to work within them.

I'm forever mobile, free, soaring. I'm no slave to anyone, unlike your
darling Dolly Lama.

Love,
Ravi


On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Now, I like this Xeno !

 Now you are finally starting to show some heart..keep at it !!!

 Perhaps one day I will indulge in intellectual discussions with you, not
 right now because you already burdened by your muddled, muddied,
 meanderings - like Robin says, first be true to your first person ontology,
 let the reality in baby.

 Love,
 Ravi.


 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
 anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  Oh my cold, heartless Xeno,
 
  It's unfortunate that you can't see how utterly immobilized you are by
 your
  mental constructs, by your beliefs - indeed this is why Robin cleans
 your
  clock every single time, albeit in his own way, gently, persistently
  reminding of how far your mental constructs, beliefs keep you away from
  reality, you are a sitting duck - I feel pity for you petty, vain minds
  suffering from incorrigible, contagious form of IED (Intellectual
  Enlightenment Disorder).

 Your humility, Ravi, is overpowering.


  Look at this interaction I had with a one Dr. Conway on Ammachi free
 speech
  list, as soon as I read him, I chuckled - I realized this was another
 case
  of IED that's been a scourge of this nation - and that he should be a
 piece
  of cake for me to handle, like Xeno
 
  I baited him -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7341
 
  He feel hook, line and sinker -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7342
 
  I decimated him (last few paras) -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7368
 
  Poor bastard - I haven't heard back from him - probably retreated to the
  safety and solace of his neo-advaita brethren.
 
  As it stands now Robin  I have disagreements on what Enlightenment is
 and
  I will not allow sickly, delirious patients of IED such as yourself to
  muddy the waters here.

 This is a nice, clear statement. What do you feel the points are upon
 which you disagree with Robin? And, if I muddy the waters here, as long as
 Rick and Alex let me be on this forum, I could muddy the waters as much as
 desired. But being cold and heartless, how much do you think I could really
 stir up?

 
  I'll come hard at you Xeno - every single time, at my fancy, at my
 pleasure.
 
  Because unlike your mental constructs such as this gem here - I do find
  Ravi particularly annoying, but I have the choice (in free-will terms)
 to
  ignore him (
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301358) -
  I don't live in my head.

 As for the 'gem' above, that was written shortly before you were outed
 from here, and I did experience annoyance at your antics. The statement
 about free will was not entirely serious as I do not really believe in free
 will; I used the words because that is how I think most people experience
 choice, that is why the comment was in parentheses.

 Stating that you do not live in your head and are minus mental constructs
 does not meant that is true, I firmly hold that it is not possible to
 express yourself in language without mental concepts. You used the concept
 'I' several times. You listed many of your accomplishments in decimating
 others' arguments;

 *I baited him.
 *he fell hook, line, and sinker
 *I decimated him

 Simple verbal abuse is not independent of concepts, and it does not
 require much intelligence either, you are being lazy. Maybe your work
 requires a lot of mental energy, and when you come here, it is easier not
 to think but to mindlessly emote. Seven months in the offline FFL cooler
 has not reduced your temperature much. But as you come back, you must like
 it here. Welcome.

 Mental constructs are a partial value of experience, they have a certain
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@...wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   Believing that what you believe equals truth is
   the disease of Narcissism, not the onset of
   Enlightenment.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/csuezw3
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvoPLHIkYw
 
 This is awesome - thanks for the link, I will watch the whole
 thing - here's one of the gems I liked - *Is she pretty? She
 behaves as if she were beautiful, all American women do, it's
 the secret of their charm *:-)

Great line. It's a brilliant production. I cheated and watched
the last part, and it's so well done compared to some other
versions I've seen. The credits say it was Dramatised by
John Osborne. Not sure what that means--I guess that he wrote
the screenplay from the novel? Because the script is superb.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
 
http://tinyurl.com/av4zve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hj5vERbLtYI
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
 that here.

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Qualities of the object

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
gouda! gouda, indeed!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 naw, I think I'm closer to muenster.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  ah...holier than thou - are you Swiss?
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
 wrote:
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@
   wrote:
   
After my brief time here, The Good Doctor observes that the FFL
   dynamic revolves around the quality of objects. Example, one person
 says
   something offensive to another, or the group, perhaps writes a
 little
   essay on how most here are, well, unhinged, and/or stupid.
   
The reaction of some is outrage, anger, and generally calling to
 an
   end of such behavior.
   
The originator then claims that the reactive members are now
 showing
   their true, and invariably negative, colors.
   
EXCEPT, if the offender had not expressed the ugly opinion in the
   first place, the reactions would not have come.
   
The quality of all that follows, begins with the originating
 object.
   To claim otherwise is to argue, for example, that the baseball has
   nothing to do with the game.
   
So, the offender by being offensive, creates a reality to the
 others
   that rests solely with him or her. There is no reason for a reaction
 of
   any kind, if no one is being socially or personally offensive.
   
The quality remains with the object.
   
   Andthe cheese stands alone.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
You are indeed the most glorious of the young spirits, Ravi! sayeth The Good 
Doctor.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 Doctor Dumbass,
 
 Don't you let King Baby Barry steal my glory - I am the the youngest here -
 I could be wrong.
 
 Anyway, King Baby is indeed in his 60's as Judy says, however his notoriety
 on this list is not because of his physical age but his emotional age, -
 there are lot of varying opinions, bitter battles, lot of mud slinging,
 slandering, all kinds of drama surrounding discussions on his emotional
 maturity, but even bitter opponents, experts on both sides of the aisle
 agree it's between 6 to 9.
 
 Welcome to the list.
 
 
 On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM, doctordumbass@... 
 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  **
 
 
  LOL! thank you for playing along! Splendid!
 
  you are joking about Barry's age?? not that I want to prolong this, but
  can anyone else vouch for authfriend's opinion that Barry is 66 or 67?!?!
 
  Mr. Barry, are you a professional actor, perhaps?
 
  In other universal news, 42.
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
   
Hello - I am new on here. I have lurked for a few weeks. (I learned TM
  a few years ago.) If I may comment, and ask a question? There seems to be a
  lot of different age groups represented here - and I sense Barry is one of
  the younger ones, making the same sweeping generalizations, and having the
  same glorious, naive dreams of youth. So, The Doctor inquires, why not let
  him grow up like the rest of us have? Cut him a break already --
  
   Hi, Doctor, welcome to the fray. Barry's actually 67, I
   believe, or maybe 66, so you might want to amend your
   inquiry. ;-)
  
 
   
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
though as you will learn, not really *allowed* to burn others with your light, 
true as it is, 
budding sage, or bs for short, though not for long - at your service, DD. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 You are indeed the most glorious of the young spirits, Ravi! sayeth The Good 
 Doctor.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote:
 
  Doctor Dumbass,
  
  Don't you let King Baby Barry steal my glory - I am the the youngest here -
  I could be wrong.
  
  Anyway, King Baby is indeed in his 60's as Judy says, however his notoriety
  on this list is not because of his physical age but his emotional age, -
  there are lot of varying opinions, bitter battles, lot of mud slinging,
  slandering, all kinds of drama surrounding discussions on his emotional
  maturity, but even bitter opponents, experts on both sides of the aisle
  agree it's between 6 to 9.
  
  Welcome to the list.
  
  
  On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM, doctordumbass@ 
  no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
   **
  
  
   LOL! thank you for playing along! Splendid!
  
   you are joking about Barry's age?? not that I want to prolong this, but
   can anyone else vouch for authfriend's opinion that Barry is 66 or 67?!?!
  
   Mr. Barry, are you a professional actor, perhaps?
  
   In other universal news, 42.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:

 Hello - I am new on here. I have lurked for a few weeks. (I learned TM
   a few years ago.) If I may comment, and ask a question? There seems to be 
   a
   lot of different age groups represented here - and I sense Barry is one of
   the younger ones, making the same sweeping generalizations, and having the
   same glorious, naive dreams of youth. So, The Doctor inquires, why not let
   him grow up like the rest of us have? Cut him a break already --
   
Hi, Doctor, welcome to the fray. Barry's actually 67, I
believe, or maybe 66, so you might want to amend your
inquiry. ;-)
   
  

  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 snip, snip,  snip

 Do you remember how many people reacted when Ravi
 *first* showed up here? Exactly as I suggest above.
 They were CONCERNED about him, afraid that he was
 having a breakdown, afraid that he'd do harm either
 to himself or his wife, and urging him to get some
 kind of professional help.
King Baby - I think Amma's cult could use your slandering skills, there
is nothing in what I posted in May 2010 which would objectively indicate
I was threat either to myself or my ex. We had a discussion about this
very topic here, back in Dec 2011, but then you, of the soliloquy
slanders, of the emotionally stunted intellect, don't read anything else
here and here you are 2 years  a few months later still repeating the
same garbage.
Where is the spirit of inquiry here, the openness, the investigation?
The subtleties, complexities of this issue, of my journey, of my
mystical experiences - which have been documented by me here, by the
various analyses by Robin on this issue. I have never walked away from
discussing these issues, however painful they may have been, taking
accountability for my words, my actions, apologizing for my actions,
words, incorporating other's feedback into my actions, especially Judy,
Robin. You have never asked any tough questions, you don't participate
in any discussions, you live in a paranoid, narcissistic, delusional,
fantasy world.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
I bow down to you dear Doctor :-). I knew, unlike our resident
(dumb)azgrey, your email handle was a parody.

Love,
Ravi

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:49 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 **


 You are indeed the most glorious of the young spirits, Ravi! sayeth The
 Good Doctor.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  Doctor Dumbass,
 
  Don't you let King Baby Barry steal my glory - I am the the youngest
 here -
  I could be wrong.
 
  Anyway, King Baby is indeed in his 60's as Judy says, however his
 notoriety
  on this list is not because of his physical age but his emotional age, -
  there are lot of varying opinions, bitter battles, lot of mud slinging,
  slandering, all kinds of drama surrounding discussions on his emotional
  maturity, but even bitter opponents, experts on both sides of the aisle
  agree it's between 6 to 9.
 
  Welcome to the list.
 
 
  On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM, doctordumbass@... 
  no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
   **

  
  
   LOL! thank you for playing along! Splendid!
  
   you are joking about Barry's age?? not that I want to prolong this, but
   can anyone else vouch for authfriend's opinion that Barry is 66 or
 67?!?!
  
   Mr. Barry, are you a professional actor, perhaps?
  
   In other universal news, 42.
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@
 wrote:

 Hello - I am new on here. I have lurked for a few weeks. (I
 learned TM
   a few years ago.) If I may comment, and ask a question? There seems to
 be a
   lot of different age groups represented here - and I sense Barry is
 one of
   the younger ones, making the same sweeping generalizations, and having
 the
   same glorious, naive dreams of youth. So, The Doctor inquires, why not
 let
   him grow up like the rest of us have? Cut him a break already --
   
Hi, Doctor, welcome to the fray. Barry's actually 67, I
believe, or maybe 66, so you might want to amend your
inquiry. ;-)
   
  
  
  
 

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
BS - love it :-), yes it's all bullshit - I don't know why anyone takes me
seriously, I'm a moron, an idiot, a retard :-) Fie on you Ravi - you
disgust me !!!

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:56 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com 
no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 **


 though as you will learn, not really *allowed* to burn others with your
 light, true as it is,
 budding sage, or bs for short, though not for long - at your service, DD.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@...
 wrote:
 
  You are indeed the most glorious of the young spirits, Ravi! sayeth The
 Good Doctor.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
 wrote:
  
   Doctor Dumbass,
  
   Don't you let King Baby Barry steal my glory - I am the the youngest
 here -
   I could be wrong.
  
   Anyway, King Baby is indeed in his 60's as Judy says, however his
 notoriety
   on this list is not because of his physical age but his emotional age,
 -
   there are lot of varying opinions, bitter battles, lot of mud slinging,
   slandering, all kinds of drama surrounding discussions on his emotional
   maturity, but even bitter opponents, experts on both sides of the aisle
   agree it's between 6 to 9.
  
   Welcome to the list.
  
  
   On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:01 PM, doctordumbass@ 
   no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  
**
   
   
LOL! thank you for playing along! Splendid!
   
you are joking about Barry's age?? not that I want to prolong this,
 but
can anyone else vouch for authfriend's opinion that Barry is 66 or
 67?!?!
   
Mr. Barry, are you a professional actor, perhaps?
   
In other universal news, 42.
   
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  Hello - I am new on here. I have lurked for a few weeks. (I
 learned TM
a few years ago.) If I may comment, and ask a question? There seems
 to be a
lot of different age groups represented here - and I sense Barry is
 one of
the younger ones, making the same sweeping generalizations, and
 having the
same glorious, naive dreams of youth. So, The Doctor inquires, why
 not let
him grow up like the rest of us have? Cut him a break already --

 Hi, Doctor, welcome to the fray. Barry's actually 67, I
 believe, or maybe 66, so you might want to amend your
 inquiry. ;-)

   
   
   
  
 

  



[FairfieldLife] Re: The enemy of my enemy is my friend

2012-08-19 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  dear authfriend, it is far easier to build a nice new home, than to 
  continually attempt to fix another's that is shoddy, and always in need of 
  repair - kindly, The Good Doctor. in SBAL it says you can tell by the 
  outside of a dwelling, the consciousness of the inhabitants.
 
 Doc, although I addressed Barry directly, it was not in an
 attempt to fix him, simply to correct his assertions for
 the record.
 
 And if you'll forgive me, while your observations are
 interesting, it's generally not considered good form for a
 newbie to a forum to instruct its members in how to conduct 
 themselves. Stick around, participate in conversations, get
 to know the other members, absorb some of the context of
 the group and its dynamics. Then you'll be in a better
 position to offer advice.

Rx for you Dr, the Ph.D Judy knows of what she speaks. I think she may be 
gently encouraging you to put away your stethoscope, stow your blood pressure 
machine and tuck the tongue depressor away for a while yet. We aren't taking 
your vitals yet, not time. Welcome aboard however, just let's not insist we 
take down our pants and let you jab us with that vaccination quite yet.
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   snip
WHY he seemed normal was that he *joined them* in their online
harassment and persecution of the woman in question. It was more
important to them to get the woman they collectively disliked 
than to notice that he was in a fragile mental state, and in need
of *help* in dealing with his psychological problems, not in
acting them out.

Does any of this sound *familiar* to Fairfield Life members?
   
   Only by way of your posts pretending that it happens here.
   
This shit is dangerous, people. You're messing with fragile
and unbalanced personalities
   
   You mean to say people who *in my opinion* are fragile
   and unbalanced personalities.
   
   But that's a little problematic because you tend to
   portray anyone who criticizes or disagrees with you as a
   fragile and unbalanced personality.
   
   , and attempting to *use* them to either exact
retribution for grudges you've been carrying for years, or
to support fantasy ideas about enlightenment or the spiritual
process you've been clinging to for years.
   
   And this is pure fantasy that even you are aware is not
   true. That you keep pushing this absurd notion in an
   attempt to get back at your critics leads some of us to
   wonder whether the fragile and unbalanced personality
   is you.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Your free will, God, and grace: the person in action

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
. . . there is a scale or range of pitch which is also infinite and terminates 
upwards in the directness or uprightness of the 'stem' of the godhead and the 
procession of the divine persons. God then can shift the self that lies in one 
to a higher, that is/better, pitch of itself; that is/to a pitch or 
determination of itself on the side of the good. But here arises a darker 
difficulty still; for how can we tell that each self has, in particular, any 
such better self, any such range from bad to good? In the abstract there is 
such a range of pitch and conceivably a self to be found, actually or possibly, 
at each pitch in it, but how can *each* self have all these pitches? for this 
seems contrary to its freedom; the more so as if we look at the exhibition of 
moral freedom in life, at men's lives and history, we find not only that in the 
same circumstances and seemingly with the same graces they behave differently, 
not only they do not range as fast from bad to good or good to bad one as 
another, but, even what is most intrinsic to a man, the influence of his own 
past and of the preexisting disposition of will with which he comes to action 
seems irregular and now he does well, now he sins, bids fair to be a sinner and 
becomes a saint or bids fair to be a saint and falls away, and indeed goes 
through vicissitudes of all sorts and changes times without number.

This matter is profound; but so far as I see this is the truth. First, though 
self, as personality, is prior to nature it is not prior to pitch. If there 
were something prior even to pitch, of which that pitch would be itself the 
pitch, then we could suppose that that, like everything else, was subject to 
God's will and could be pitched, could be determined, this way or that. But 
this is really saying that a thing is and is not itself, is and is not A, is 
and is not. For self before nature is no thing as yet but only possible; with 
the accession of a nature it becomes properly a self, for instance a person: 
only so far as it is prior to nature, that is to say/so far as it is a definite 
self, the possibility of a definite self (and not merely the possibility of a 
number or fetch of nature) it is identified with pitch, moral pitch, 
determination of right and wrong. And so far, it has its possibility, as it 
will have its existence, from God, but not so that God makes pitch no pitch, 
determination no determination, and indifference indifference. The 
indifference, the absence of pitch, is in the nature to be superadded. And when 
nature is superadded, then it cannot be believed, as the Thomists think, that 
in every circumstance of free choice the person is of himself indifferent 
towards the alternatives and that God determines which he shall, though freely, 
choose. The difficulty does not lie so much in his being determined by God and 
yet choosing freely, for on one side that may and must happen, but in his being 
supposed equally disposed or pitched towards both at once. This is impossible 
and destroys the notion of freedom and of pitch.

Nevertheless in every circumstance it is within God's power to determine the 
creature to choose, and freely choose, according to his will; but not without a 
change or access of circumstance, over and above the bare act of determination 
on his part. This access is either of grace, which is 'supernature', to nature 
or of more grace to grace already given, and it takes the form of instressing 
the affective will, of affecting the will towards the good which he proposes. 
So far this is a necessary and constrained affection on the creature's part, to 
which the *arbitrium* of the creature may give its avowal and consent. 
Ordinarily when grace is given we feel first the necessary or constrained act 
and after that the free act on own part, of consent or refusal as the case may 
be. This consent or refusal is given to an act either hereafter or now to be 
done, but in the nature of things such an act must always be future, even if 
immediately future or of those futures which arise in acts and phrases like 'I 
must ask you' to do so-and-so, 'I wish to apologize', 'I beg to say', and so 
on, And ordinarily the motives for refusal are still present though the motive 
for consent has been strengthened by the motion, just over or even in some way 
still working, of grace. And therefore in ordinary cases refusal is possible 
not only physically but also morally and often takes place. But refusal 
remaining physically possible becomes morally (and strictly) impossible in the 
following way.

. . . Therefore in that 'cleave' of being which each of his creatures shews to 
God's eyes alone (or in the 'burl' of being/uncloven) God can choose countless 
points in the strain (or countless cleaves of the 'burl') where the creature 
has consented, does consent, to God's will in the way above shewn. But these 
may be away, may be very far away, from the actual pitch at any given moment 
existing. It is 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa State Fair 2012

2012-08-19 Thread awoelflebater
Nice, thanks. Brings back old memories of living in Iowa. I used to horseshow 
up in Des Moines. Those spiky things are just ornamentation for the draft 
breeds. I'm not sure of the origin of those however.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 Ann, I caught the Clyde/Shire Perch Draft Ponies backstage on video as they 
 entered an arena for a show. They're beautifully groomed, black lacquered 
 hoofs and a tightly coiffed mane. What are those silver spiky things? Looks 
 like aluminum foil used for getting your hair bleached.  
 http://youtu.be/I-vPrFm8XBA





[FairfieldLife] Re: The enemy of my enemy is my friend

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
lol - no jabbing here, pants on, or not - The Doctor (no, I have no idea what 
is wrong with any organ of your body, or your mind, hence my surname: DUMBASS) 
is enjoying reading the tea leaves at present - we'll figure it out together, 
and at the moment, and perhaps always, I am the greenest shade of green.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
  
   dear authfriend, it is far easier to build a nice new home, than to 
   continually attempt to fix another's that is shoddy, and always in need 
   of repair - kindly, The Good Doctor. in SBAL it says you can tell by the 
   outside of a dwelling, the consciousness of the inhabitants.
  
  Doc, although I addressed Barry directly, it was not in an
  attempt to fix him, simply to correct his assertions for
  the record.
  
  And if you'll forgive me, while your observations are
  interesting, it's generally not considered good form for a
  newbie to a forum to instruct its members in how to conduct 
  themselves. Stick around, participate in conversations, get
  to know the other members, absorb some of the context of
  the group and its dynamics. Then you'll be in a better
  position to offer advice.
 
 Rx for you Dr, the Ph.D Judy knows of what she speaks. I think she may be 
 gently encouraging you to put away your stethoscope, stow your blood pressure 
 machine and tuck the tongue depressor away for a while yet. We aren't taking 
 your vitals yet, not time. Welcome aboard however, just let's not insist we 
 take down our pants and let you jab us with that vaccination quite yet.
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
 WHY he seemed normal was that he *joined them* in their online
 harassment and persecution of the woman in question. It was more
 important to them to get the woman they collectively disliked 
 than to notice that he was in a fragile mental state, and in need
 of *help* in dealing with his psychological problems, not in
 acting them out.
 
 Does any of this sound *familiar* to Fairfield Life members?

Only by way of your posts pretending that it happens here.

 This shit is dangerous, people. You're messing with fragile
 and unbalanced personalities

You mean to say people who *in my opinion* are fragile
and unbalanced personalities.

But that's a little problematic because you tend to
portray anyone who criticizes or disagrees with you as a
fragile and unbalanced personality.

, and attempting to *use* them to either exact
 retribution for grudges you've been carrying for years, or
 to support fantasy ideas about enlightenment or the spiritual
 process you've been clinging to for years.

And this is pure fantasy that even you are aware is not
true. That you keep pushing this absurd notion in an
attempt to get back at your critics leads some of us to
wonder whether the fragile and unbalanced personality
is you.
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.

http://tinyurl.com/yzmspy5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjQvqxaFrFE 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
 that here.

   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
 
http://tinyurl.com/bwpnvgv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a2o5ykaPwc 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
 that here.

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/317493

http://tinyurl.com/9v4455f 

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.

http://tinyurl.com/dyykoom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbJ-4vuffhIfeature=related
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
 
http://tinyurl.com/bt5ujjo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43zcvKPnc60

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
 that here.

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
 
http://tinyurl.com/dxqdfw6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WichIcoy9kEfeature=relmfu

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
 because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
 mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
 to do recently. 
 
 Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
 records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
 
 This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
 me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
 I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
 delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
 at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
 
 As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
 equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
 
http://tinyurl.com/cdbyjd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgMdz2fe0CY 

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  seventhray1,
  
  Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to posts 
  here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave Nazi 
  supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
  
  Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
  disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties about 
  my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move on? 
  Good friendly advice.
  
  The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
  wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
  sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
  have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
  
  And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
  
   As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
   the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
   and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
   its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
   over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
   offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
   way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
   opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.
   
   Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
   receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
   just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
   what could be next?  A documentary?
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
seventhray1,
   
I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
   lot about you.
   
My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.
   
So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
   before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
   think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
   decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
   lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
   believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.
   
Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
   strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
   asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
   of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.
   
There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
   has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
   good for me.
   
P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
   I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
   from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
   you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
   wrote:


 Ann,

 I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
   of
 Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.

 For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
 ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
 so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
   Dan
 who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
 commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
 Dan.

 Judy recently posted the exchanage, I believe. But I think a wrong
 impression is being given by Dan.

 Perhaps a rereading of the exchange will prove me wrong, or at least
   be
 show the possibility of different interpretations. We have a lot of
 that here.

  

[FairfieldLife] Re: The enemy of my enemy is my friend

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
Name: Doctor Dumbass.
Rank: not usually (smells armpits reflexively).
Serial #: OK, I'll take 37 through 74.

Responz: Judee, Judee, Judee...(though you can't hear the cary grant in it) - 
you have firmly claimed the stage, and I graciously yield to you...sotto voce 
(hey, that's enough with the hook, guys...she's got the floor...cheesus...)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
 
  dear authfriend, it is far easier to build a nice new home, than to 
  continually attempt to fix another's that is shoddy, and always in need of 
  repair - kindly, The Good Doctor. in SBAL it says you can tell by the 
  outside of a dwelling, the consciousness of the inhabitants.
 
 Doc, although I addressed Barry directly, it was not in an
 attempt to fix him, simply to correct his assertions for
 the record.
 
 And if you'll forgive me, while your observations are
 interesting, it's generally not considered good form for a
 newbie to a forum to instruct its members in how to conduct 
 themselves. Stick around, participate in conversations, get
 to know the other members, absorb some of the context of
 the group and its dynamics. Then you'll be in a better
 position to offer advice.
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   snip
WHY he seemed normal was that he *joined them* in their online
harassment and persecution of the woman in question. It was more
important to them to get the woman they collectively disliked 
than to notice that he was in a fragile mental state, and in need
of *help* in dealing with his psychological problems, not in
acting them out.

Does any of this sound *familiar* to Fairfield Life members?
   
   Only by way of your posts pretending that it happens here.
   
This shit is dangerous, people. You're messing with fragile
and unbalanced personalities
   
   You mean to say people who *in my opinion* are fragile
   and unbalanced personalities.
   
   But that's a little problematic because you tend to
   portray anyone who criticizes or disagrees with you as a
   fragile and unbalanced personality.
   
   , and attempting to *use* them to either exact
retribution for grudges you've been carrying for years, or
to support fantasy ideas about enlightenment or the spiritual
process you've been clinging to for years.
   
   And this is pure fantasy that even you are aware is not
   true. That you keep pushing this absurd notion in an
   attempt to get back at your critics leads some of us to
   wonder whether the fragile and unbalanced personality
   is you.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Three FFL posters designated as Schedule I drugs

2012-08-19 Thread doctordumbass
ZORRO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpdHMaccjw4


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Although I will not interact with Dan Friedman any more,
  because I feel that to do so encourages his obvious 
  mental illness, I feel the need to do what Curtis had
  to do recently. 
  
  Dan has NEVER sent me an email. Not one. I have the 
  records of all of the email services I use to prove it.
  
  This guy is a nut case. His threats of violence against
  me have already been reported to the proper authorities.
  I encourage others here to stop encouraging him in his
  delusional fantasies. To do so is to legally put yourself
  at risk if he ever acts out on his threats. 
  
  As a note to asleep at the wheel Rick Archer, you are
  equally at risk. Check the case law on this.
  
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/317493
 
 http://tinyurl.com/9v4455f 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   seventhray1,
   
   Quit hiding behind you bullshit of there are many interpretations to 
   posts here, it's way too close to explanations provided by the brave 
   Nazi supporters. Don't like my tone? Then quit bullshitting.
   
   Interesting that you tell me to get over an incident that insulted and 
   disgusted my wife, while you get yourself all tied-up-in-your=panties 
   about my correcting you. Why don't you admit that you were wrong and move 
   on? Good friendly advice.
   
   The last thing you said would have merit, if it too, weren't completely 
   wrong. I explained directly to you that finding out who the true Batty is 
   sickened me, and prompted my posting. I also explained that I would not 
   have had to post anything had Batty replied to my friendly-tone emails.
   
   And yes, you are acting the fool. But you can change.
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
   
As I said Dan, there are many interpretations to posts here .  I reread
the the link Judy provided.  Barry was being his usual mischievous self
and poking fun at you through your error.  FFL has never been known for
its proper manners, or apologies.  Do you think it might be time to get
over this event that happened 1-1/2 years ago?  Was it that egregious an
offense that you need to bring it up like it happend yesterday?   Either
way is fine with me, but I do reserve the right to chime in with my
opinion, and certainly you have right to call me a fool.

Oh I just reread what you wrote below.  And that is fascinating about
receiving books and tapes all pertaining to this very event or maybe
just about Barry in general.  Either way that is impressive.  I mean,
what could be next?  A documentary?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 no_reply@
wrote:


 seventhray1,

 I am not surprised that you wrote to Ann, rather than to me; it says a
lot about you.

 My words are correct, yours, not-so-much.

 So where shall I begin? With your being too lazy to look it up
before making your incredulous accusation. Lazy, lazy, lazy...but I
think you know that. What you don't seem to understand is common
decency, for which there is no easy remedy, other than to confront your
lying face (and not with 'I may be right here, or I may be wrong, but
believe me, I'm right'. Pussy - and again, not with the good meaning.

 Barry fucking Googled my wife, then proceeded to email her the
strangest words she had ever read. She was rightfully disgusted. When I
asked Barry about what he had done, he offered no decency. He is devoid
of decency, as I see is more common that I'd known.

 There is nothing new here for me, other than you're strange post. What
has changed is that I now know a great deal more about Barry. That is
good for me.

 P.S. You seem to be in a great minority with your misinformed opinion.
I have received emails of encouragement, books, tapes and well-wishes
from others who know that I'm correct IN EVERY WORD I WRITE. Something
you should learn. Stop your bullshitting.
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
 
 
  Ann,
 
  I think if you check into this you will find that Dan's accusation
of
  Barry bringing Dan's wife into a dispute is not correct.
 
  For one, I think the alleged transgration took place about two years
  ago. Or maybe it was a little less. I am too lazy to look it up, and
  so may be proved wrong. But as I mentioned before, I believe it was
Dan
  who made a post to Barry using his wife's e-mail account. Barry then
  commented on that in his postings here, and that seemed to infuriate
  Dan.
 
  Judy recently posted the 

[FairfieldLife] Beyond 1st Person Ontology

2012-08-19 Thread emptybill
Intersubjectivity in Indian and Tibetan Buddhism

http://www.sbinstitute.com/sites/default/files/Intersubjectivity.pdf




[FairfieldLife] Saint Therese of Lisieux

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thérèse_de_Lisieux
http://www.amazon.com/Story-Soul-Autobiography-Therese-Lisieux/dp/0935216588

Some quotations:

Coming out of the confessional I was so happy and light-hearted that I had 
never felt so much joy in my soul. Since then I've gone to confession on all 
the great feasts, and it was truly a *feast* for me each time.

In one instant, I understood what life was; until then, I had never seen it so 
sad; but it appeared to me in all its reality, and I saw it was nothing but 
continual suffering and separation. I shed bitter tears because I did not yet 
understand the *joy* of sacrifice.

The sickness which overtook me certainly came from the demon; infuriated by 
your [her sister] entrance into Carmel, he wanted to take revenge on me for the 
wrong our family was to do to him in the future. He did not know that the sweet 
Queen of heaven was watching over her fragile little flower, that she  *was 
smiling* on her from her throne in heaven and was preparing to stop the storm 
the moment her flower was to break without any hope of recovery.

This sickness was not unto death,' but like that of Lazarus it was to give 
glory to God. And God was glorified by the admirable resignation of my poor 
little *Father*, who thought his *little girl was going crazy or was about to 
die*.

God gave me the grace of knowing the *world* just enough to despise it and 
separate myself from it.

I don't believe one can taste joy anywhere else but in religious communities.

My heart, sensitive and affectionate as it was, would have easily surrendered 
had it found a heart capable of understanding it. I tried to make friends with 
little girls my own age, and especially with two of them. I loved them and they 
in turn, loved me insofar as they were *capable*. But alas! how *narrow* and 
*flighty* is the heart of creatures.

How can I thank Jesus for making me find *only bitterness in earth's 
friendships*! With a heart such as mine, I would have allowed myself to be 
taken and my wings to be clipped, and then how would I have been able to *fly 
and be at rest*? How can a heart given over to the affection of creatures be 
intimately united with God? I feel this is not possible.

But I know that Jesus *has forgiven me more* than *St Mary Magdalene* since He 
forgave me *in advance* by preventing me from falling.

I have heard it said that one cannot meet a pure soul who loves more than a 
repentant soul; ah! how I would wish to give the lie to this statement!

One lady said I had pretty hair; another, when she was leaving, believing she 
was not overhard, asked who the very beautiful young girl was. These words, all 
the more flattering since they were not spoken in my presence, left in my soul 
a pleasurable impression that showed me clearly how much I was filled with 
self-love.

This was my consolation, for was not Jesus my *only* *Friend*? I knew how to 
speak only to Him; conversations with creatures, even pious conversations, 
fatigued my soul. I felt it was far more valuable to speak to God than to speak 
about Him, for there is so much self-love intermingled with spiritual 
conversations!

It was December 25, 1886, that I received the grace of leaving my childhood, in 
a word, the grace of my complete conversion. We had come back from Midnight 
Mass where I had the happiness of receiving the *strong* and *powerful* God.

Ah! [Trip to Rome, the Eternal City] what a trip that was! It taught me more 
than long years of studies; it showed me the vanity of everything that happens 
and that *everything is affliction of spirit under the sun*.

The religious life appeared to me *exactly as it is* with its *subjections*, 
its small sacrifices carried out in the shadows.

My mortifications consisted in breaking my will, always so ready to impose 
itself on others, in holding back a reply, in rendering little services without 
any recognition, in not leaning my back against  a support when seated, etc., 
etc.

As soon as Jesus descended into the hearts of my relatives [she was about to 
enter Carmel], I heard noting around me but sobs. I was the only one who didn't 
shed any tears, but my heart was beating *so violently* it seemed impossible to 
walk when they signaled to me to come to the enclosure door.

Ah! I was fully recompensed for all my trials. With what deep joy I repeated 
those words: I am here forever and ever!



[FairfieldLife] Is true randomness possible?

2012-08-19 Thread Yifu
Yes...from Wired, Sept 2012:
...
But now scientists at the Australian National University have introduced a 
technique for generating 5.7 billion truly random values per second.  They do 
it by harnessing the fundamental uncertainity of the universe. Their technique 
measures quantum phenomena in a box completely devoid of photons, where ghostly 
virtual particles randomly burble in and out of existence 24/7. God does not 
play dice, Einstein famously quipped in response to evidence that randomness 
rules the cosmos. Luckily, he was wrong. (Wired article by Jonathon Keats).



[FairfieldLife] Re: The enemy of my enemy is my friend

2012-08-19 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:

 Name: Doctor Dumbass.
 Rank: not usually (smells armpits reflexively).
 Serial #: OK, I'll take 37 through 74.
 
 Responz: Judee, Judee, Judee...(though you can't hear the cary grant in it) - 
 you have firmly claimed the stage, and I graciously yield to you...sotto voce 
 (hey, that's enough with the hook, guys...she's got the floor...cheesus...)
 

Welcome aboard. Do you prefer being called Doc, Doctor or Dumbass? Rank 
armpits...good one. It appeals to my grade school sense of humor.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
  
   dear authfriend, it is far easier to build a nice new home, than to 
   continually attempt to fix another's that is shoddy, and always in need 
   of repair - kindly, The Good Doctor. in SBAL it says you can tell by the 
   outside of a dwelling, the consciousness of the inhabitants.
  
  Doc, although I addressed Barry directly, it was not in an
  attempt to fix him, simply to correct his assertions for
  the record.
  
  And if you'll forgive me, while your observations are
  interesting, it's generally not considered good form for a
  newbie to a forum to instruct its members in how to conduct 
  themselves. Stick around, participate in conversations, get
  to know the other members, absorb some of the context of
  the group and its dynamics. Then you'll be in a better
  position to offer advice.
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
 WHY he seemed normal was that he *joined them* in their online
 harassment and persecution of the woman in question. It was more
 important to them to get the woman they collectively disliked 
 than to notice that he was in a fragile mental state, and in need
 of *help* in dealing with his psychological problems, not in
 acting them out.
 
 Does any of this sound *familiar* to Fairfield Life members?

Only by way of your posts pretending that it happens here.

 This shit is dangerous, people. You're messing with fragile
 and unbalanced personalities

You mean to say people who *in my opinion* are fragile
and unbalanced personalities.

But that's a little problematic because you tend to
portray anyone who criticizes or disagrees with you as a
fragile and unbalanced personality.

, and attempting to *use* them to either exact
 retribution for grudges you've been carrying for years, or
 to support fantasy ideas about enlightenment or the spiritual
 process you've been clinging to for years.

And this is pure fantasy that even you are aware is not
true. That you keep pushing this absurd notion in an
attempt to get back at your critics leads some of us to
wonder whether the fragile and unbalanced personality
is you.
   
  
 





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