[FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of puja to newbie navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: I guess I haven't read as much of your writing as others here have. AND I didn't see much of YOUR writing style in the extra long post (-: As for my traveling to India, anything is possible and I do think I would love it, the richness of it, the sweetness of the people, the unfamiliar beauty of the culture. For me this is where the best spirituality abides. Maybe I got a little taste of that when I went to Amma's programs. You've planted a good idea in my heart and mind, thank you. Well, I'm glad I did. This was the purpose of my post - to connect with intelligent spiritual people ;-) From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of puja to newbie navashok  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Welcome back K T (-: Thanks Share. And thanks Judy and Mr. Soss for cluing me in. How did you all figure it out so quickly? Not difficult really. Apart from the writing style, I frequently mention India - from where I'm posting right now - mentioned the Matri Mandir before, and probably a few other clues. But Share, I really think you should come here one day, you know, Arunachala, Tiruvannamalai, Pondicherry and Auroville (Matri Mandir). You will enjoy the spiritual atmosphere here - not that you don't have any of that in Fairfield as well, but I think it's good to see something different, experience a different spiritual subculture, and I'm sure you would love India. And to mention Robin - I don't see him writing at the moment - I think he should read Aurobindo, Life Divine for example, because a lot of what he says relates to that, what his main objection to Advaita was, the Impersonal. Aurobindo addresses exactly these points, but from a typical Indian perspective, not a Christian one. So he might be interested in his solution of the problem Personal vs Impersonal. From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of puja to newbie navashok à--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: BTW, Share, navashok isn't a newbie, he's just using a new handle. He's a supporter of yours. Or at least was the last time he was here. Well, I like to think of myself as a supporter of everyone ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: SRV at his almost very bestest?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card wrote: Tin Pan Alley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aon6JfHxnTo Alley's the roughest place I've ever been. That seems like a slightly anomalous sentence from the POV of standard English grammer. Now, how could we interpret it? 1. I (here: SRV)could be many rough places, but Alley is the roughest I've ever been. That's perhaps I slightly schizophrenic, or whatever, i-p. 2. Anomalous use of the verb 'to be' as an transitive verb, in which case 'Alley' is the object of that sentence; cf. I visited Alley last week. 3. Omitting the preposition 'to': poetic license? Alley's the roughest place I've ever been (to)??
[FairfieldLife] SPT: double stops (tt, pp, kk)
We think especially hard stops 't' and 'tt' (double t?) are quite common in Sanskrit. It seems to us most native speakers of English (and many other languages lacking that suprasegmental[?] phonemic distinction between consonants?) have a hard time to hear the difference in length of t-sounds in words like 'citi' and 'citta'. In English that difference usually seems indicate difference of pronunciation of the preceding *vowel*, e.g: bitter Mr. Biter. The secret of practicing the correct pronounciation of the word 'citta'(etc.) might well be first to pronounce 'cit-', then snap your fingers, and after that to pronounce '-ta'. Naturally, that in most cases greatly exaggerates the very short pause between 'cit' and 'ta', but one should perhaps gradually shorter the pause and compare ones pronunciation for instance to this: http://yogasutrastudy.info/ysp-multi-track.html (e.g. suutra I 2: yogash citta-vRtti-nirodhaH)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
Now, let me get this straight, are you saying that the TMO continued to raise money for Vedaland AFTER it was announced that Henning was dying? Or that they just offered no refunds for the investments after it was announced the project wasn't happening? From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I would love to know why those Kaplan boys never did it - they were pretty steamed at Marsh-he. I think I'll ask my friend George - he used to know Earl pretty good I think. I sure as hell would have done, but I think Turq is right about why people don't like to rock the boat. For most people the threat of being banned from courses is enough to get them back in line. The thought of losing that fast- lane to enlightenment appears to be worth more than anything to most people in the TMO. Including their pride and sense of right and wrong. And I've seen some shocking abuses of peoples trust and money. Some due to incompetence, some deliberate fraud. I saw a presentation about vedaland, the TM themepark that Marshy was planning in Canada. Designed by magician Doug Henning, it was going to have floating buildings as well as being educational for the masses about the mythical vedic civilisation. It was a slick and, I thought, very cynical money making scheme with a minimum stake of $50,000. But my ire at their use of BS PR tactics to raise money was nothing compared to the anger I voiced when it turned out that it wasn't going to happen because Doug Henning was on his deathbed with liver cancer. I was on a course at the time and I was the only one who raised hell about it. Apart from the obviously dubious morals it's actually illegal, in Europe anyway, to raise money for something that isn't going to happen. And if you raise money and it doesn't happen for some reason you have to offer a refund. The TMO didn't bother with that obviously and blew all their credibility with me in an instant but what got me was the cowed and defeated attitude of everyone else. Too scared to rock the boat in case they got sent home. What sort of spontaneous right action was that? If god didn't want them sheared he would not have made them sheep From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Can't wait for the big money donors to the TM Movement to wake up and do that exact same thing. With all due respect, and as Buddy Holly once said so well, That'll be the day. TMers are still too guruwhipped to go public with their complaints. Pussies, the whole lot of them. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Co$ in the news again. Scientology Faces Lawsuit From Luis And Maria Garcia, Claim They Were 'Duped' Into Giving Donations The Church of Scientology duped two members into donating £265,000 on the pretence it would go to worthy causes, according to a lawsuit filed in Florida. California-based Luis and Maria Garcia, members of the church for 28 years, have filed the complaint in federal court in Tampa, naming trusts and charitable organisations linked to the controversial church, AP reported. The lawsuit says: The church, under the leadership of David Miscavige, has strayed from its founding principles and morphed into a secular enterprise whose primary purpose is taking people's money. The Church of Scientology is subject to a lawsuit in Florida The couple, who left the church in 2010 due to conflict of opinion with Miscavige, claim they were asked to donate sums totalling more than £265,000. According to the Tampa Bay Times, the Garcias allege that, over the years, the church redirected hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations the couple had earmarked specifically for the construction of a massive Super Power building in downtown Clearwater, Florida. But they allege they were also asked to fund campaigns for disaster relief and ending child pornography, all of which went to line the pockets of the church. Church spokesman Pat Harney said in a statement that the church had no comment on an impending lawsuit. We understand from media inquiries this has something to do with fundraising and we can unequivocally state all funds solicited are used for the charitable and religious purposes for which they were donated. Mr Garcia told Tampa Bay Online that the church's requests for money were relentless, and other members he knew had taken out
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I know this is extremely trivial, but do you remember what was the best or most fun meal you ever had on a TM course or at a TM facility? The Ranch salad dressing at Cobb Mt mmm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Now, let me get this straight, are you saying that the TMO continued to raise money for Vedaland AFTER it was announced that Henning was dying? Or that they just offered no refunds for the investments after it was announced the project wasn't happening? It was probably just Fundraising As Usual for the TMO, meaning that the ostensible thing they were using as an excuse to beg for money for was only that, an excuse. With regard to this particular scam, I have to agree with the last line of Salyavin's post below about sheep and shearing. Anyone STUPID enough to invest money in a Hindu Theme Park as if such a thing ever had a chance of drawing paying customers pretty much deserved to be fleeced. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I would love to know why those Kaplan boys never did it - they were pretty steamed at Marsh-he. I think I'll ask my friend George - he used to know Earl pretty good I think. I sure as hell would have done, but I think Turq is right about why people don't like to rock the boat. For most people the threat of being banned from courses is enough to get them back in line. The thought of losing that fast- lane to enlightenment appears to be worth more than anything to most people in the TMO. Including their pride and sense of right and wrong. And I've seen some shocking abuses of peoples trust and money. Some due to incompetence, some deliberate fraud. I saw a presentation about vedaland, the TM themepark that Marshy was planning in Canada. Designed by magician Doug Henning, it was going to have floating buildings as well as being educational for the masses about the mythical vedic civilisation. It was a slick and, I thought, very cynical money making scheme with a minimum stake of $50,000. But my ire at their use of BS PR tactics to raise money was nothing compared to the anger I voiced when it turned out that it wasn't going to happen because Doug Henning was on his deathbed with liver cancer. I was on a course at the time and I was the only one who raised hell about it. Apart from the obviously dubious morals it's actually illegal, in Europe anyway, to raise money for something that isn't going to happen. And if you raise money and it doesn't happen for some reason you have to offer a refund. The TMO didn't bother with that obviously and blew all their credibility with me in an instant but what got me was the cowed and defeated attitude of everyone else. Too scared to rock the boat in case they got sent home. What sort of spontaneous right action was that? If god didn't want them sheared he would not have made them sheep From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Can't wait for the big money donors to the TM Movement to wake up and do that exact same thing. With all due respect, and as Buddy Holly once said so well, That'll be the day. TMers are still too guruwhipped to go public with their complaints. Pussies, the whole lot of them. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Co$ in the news again. Scientology Faces Lawsuit From Luis And Maria Garcia, Claim They Were 'Duped' Into Giving Donations The Church of Scientology duped two members into donating Ãâã265,000 on the pretence it would go to worthy causes, according to a lawsuit filed in Florida. California-based Luis and Maria Garcia, members of the church for 28 years, have filed the complaint in federal court in Tampa, naming trusts and charitable organisations linked to the controversial church,ÃâàAP reported. The lawsuit says: The church, under the leadership of David Miscavige, has strayed from its founding principles and morphed into a secular enterprise whose primary purpose is taking people's money. The Church of Scientology is subject to a lawsuit in Florida The couple, who left the church in 2010 due to conflict of opinion with Miscavige, claim they were asked to donate sums totalling more than Ãâã265,000. According to the Tampa Bay Times, the Garcias allege that, over the years, the church redirected hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations the couple had earmarked specifically for the construction of a massive Super Power building in downtown Clearwater, Florida. But they allege they were also
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: Barry, just to let you know, I clearly appreciate your input on this, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, so as I perceive this post being directed to me, I feel your concern in a very positive way. As I said, navashok is lacking in integrity, to put it mildly. What the article Barry posted was describing had nothing to do with anything that was going on or ever *has* gone on on FFL. Barry knows that, navashok knows that. Commenting negatively on something someone said in a post on an Internet forum is not stalking by any honest definition. If it were, almost all of us here would be stalkers, Barry and navashok most definitely included. The motivation for calling this stalking is very simple: It's an attempt at revenge by Barry and nashoka on those who make negative comments on their posts because they are unable to refute the comments, and when they instigate arguments in an attempt to do so, they are unable to win. They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. Neither of them will even try to address what I just said, because they know it's accurate.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: snip Re the stalking thang, try not to take it too personally. The forms of stalking we see on FFL We don't see any forms of stalking on FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
I sure as hell would have done, but I think Turq is right about why people don't like to rock the boat. For most people the threat of being banned from courses is enough to get them back in line. The thought of losing that fast- lane to enlightenment appears to be worth more than anything to most people in the TMO. Including their pride and sense of right and wrong. turquoiseb: I think that it's as much about the sense of cult community as anything else. Few at this point would be worried about being banned from courses, mainly because we all know there won't BE any new courses worth attending. But they're unwilling to give up the friends they've developed along the way in TM communities. Most know that these people would not only turn their backs on them if they went against the TMO (and in their minds went against Maharishi, who is...uh...dead and gone), these former friends would join in the demonization of them and the cate- gorization of them as enemies of the movement. In other words, the cult indoctrination worked. Apparently Rama charged thousands of dollars every month to attend 'Rama Seminars', and if you didn't pay you didn't get in. In fact, if you didn't pay up you were ex-communicado, according to Mark Laxter. LoL! But, only a few special girls were actually allowed inside Rama's house. LoL! The Rama cult must have taken in millions from you followers. Go figure. What happened to all the money?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Now, let me get this straight, are you saying that the TMO continued to raise money for Vedaland AFTER it was announced that Henning was dying? Or that they just offered no refunds for the investments after it was announced the project wasn't happening? Yes. They were selling minimum lots of $50,000 when Henning was on his death bed and vedaland obviously wasn't going to happen. But they knew alright, he was in a hospice at the time unbeknownst to us poor saps on the receiving end of the PR spin. I remember someone at the presentation asking what Doug was doing at the time and the slick PR guy evasively said Doug's a great guy and really committed to the project thus neatly sidestepping the question. It should have registered with me more than it did but I was rather depressed by all the sales projection charts and BS phone poll results that the TMO had done to care much about any of it. Henning died a few weeks later and I was still on the course, I realised what had happened and was fucking livid but my protests met with the usual Maharishi knows what he is doing crap. Yep, ripping off the flock is what he was doing. I stopped taking it seriously after that, then the raja thing started with all the million dollar donations and then the Kaplan letter etc. I know many people who donated to things that never happened but they all believed that the money was going to where it was most needed so it didn't matter! I always hoped I'd meet the PR guy again so I could punch his lights out. His presentation started with movie about Doug Henning and his amazing magic act which included making elephants disappear (probably not up his sleeve) it was great stuff and in the NLP adverts he did when he lived at the TM headquarters in England he came across as a really nice guy. Poor sod. I wonder if he knew. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I would love to know why those Kaplan boys never did it - they were pretty steamed at Marsh-he. I think I'll ask my friend George - he used to know Earl pretty good I think. I sure as hell would have done, but I think Turq is right about why people don't like to rock the boat. For most people the threat of being banned from courses is enough to get them back in line. The thought of losing that fast- lane to enlightenment appears to be worth more than anything to most people in the TMO. Including their pride and sense of right and wrong. And I've seen some shocking abuses of peoples trust and money. Some due to incompetence, some deliberate fraud. I saw a presentation about vedaland, the TM themepark that Marshy was planning in Canada. Designed by magician Doug Henning, it was going to have floating buildings as well as being educational for the masses about the mythical vedic civilisation. It was a slick and, I thought, very cynical money making scheme with a minimum stake of $50,000. But my ire at their use of BS PR tactics to raise money was nothing compared to the anger I voiced when it turned out that it wasn't going to happen because Doug Henning was on his deathbed with liver cancer. I was on a course at the time and I was the only one who raised hell about it. Apart from the obviously dubious morals it's actually illegal, in Europe anyway, to raise money for something that isn't going to happen. And if you raise money and it doesn't happen for some reason you have to offer a refund. The TMO didn't bother with that obviously and blew all their credibility with me in an instant but what got me was the cowed and defeated attitude of everyone else. Too scared to rock the boat in case they got sent home. What sort of spontaneous right action was that? If god didn't want them sheared he would not have made them sheep From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. ÃÂ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Can't wait for the big money donors to the TM Movement to wake up and do that exact same thing. With all due respect, and as Buddy Holly once said so well, That'll be the day. TMers are still too guruwhipped to go public with their complaints. Pussies, the whole lot of them. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Co$ in the news again. Scientology Faces Lawsuit From Luis And Maria Garcia, Claim They Were 'Duped' Into Giving Donations The Church of
[FairfieldLife] Re: How Reincarnation explains so much about human behavior.
Being homosexual isn't a plight - it's a beautiful gift from the Creator. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote: Yet, western culture remains ignorant. Whether it be Mozart, Liberace, or (the current outrage, Jodi Arias), all of these behaviors stem from *choices* make in previous lives! Mozart wasn't just hatched, he had a past in previous lives as a musician, hence he was considered a 'genius' in this one. Liberace, considered a 'flaming fagot', (not my words) became so because because of the exacting law of cause and effect or karma in previous lives. Jodi Arias, (most likely had murdered in the past), so now, when opportunity presents itself, she does it again. So you see, ignorant *secularism* limits our understanding of life itself, wake up, read scripture which is a beautiful, logical understanding of life itself! So, we got homosexuals running around blaming God or nature for their plight, and we all know, (especially on this group) that reincarnation explains it all! Unless of course you don't believe in eastern philosophy or the mmy.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I would love to know why those Kaplan boys never did it - they were pretty steamed at Marsh-he. I think I'll ask my friend George - he used to know Earl pretty good I think. I sure as hell would have done, but I think Turq is right about why people don't like to rock the boat. For most people the threat of being banned from courses is enough to get them back in line. The thought of losing that fast- lane to enlightenment appears to be worth more than anything to most people in the TMO. Including their pride and sense of right and wrong. That last paragraph goes a long ways to capturing the feelings of a lot of old-TMers in the larger TM community. Rightly or wrongly aside and even with people doing other spiritual practices besides TM that is a formative and deeply held value about the technique in the old meditating community. Even in people who have moved away and visit back to meditate in the Domes. And, certainly the TM-Taliban-like preservation-at-all-costs no-admission-of-faults administration around Bevan and Tony can be ruthless in wielding that over and sorting people around them as quid-pro-quo. -Buck And I've seen some shocking abuses of peoples trust and money. Some due to incompetence, some deliberate fraud. I saw a presentation about vedaland, the TM themepark that Marshy was planning in Canada. Designed by magician Doug Henning, it was going to have floating buildings as well as being educational for the masses about the mythical vedic civilisation. It was a slick and, I thought, very cynical money making scheme with a minimum stake of $50,000. But my ire at their use of BS PR tactics to raise money was nothing compared to the anger I voiced when it turned out that it wasn't going to happen because Doug Henning was on his deathbed with liver cancer. I was on a course at the time and I was the only one who raised hell about it. Apart from the obviously dubious morals it's actually illegal, in Europe anyway, to raise money for something that isn't going to happen. And if you raise money and it doesn't happen for some reason you have to offer a refund. The TMO didn't bother with that obviously and blew all their credibility with me in an instant but what got me was the cowed and defeated attitude of everyone else. Too scared to rock the boat in case they got sent home. What sort of spontaneous right action was that? If god didn't want them sheared he would not have made them sheep From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Can't wait for the big money donors to the TM Movement to wake up and do that exact same thing. With all due respect, and as Buddy Holly once said so well, That'll be the day. TMers are still too guruwhipped to go public with their complaints. Pussies, the whole lot of them. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Co$ in the news again. Scientology Faces Lawsuit From Luis And Maria Garcia, Claim They Were 'Duped' Into Giving Donations The Church of Scientology duped two members into donating ã265,000 on the pretence it would go to worthy causes, according to a lawsuit filed in Florida. California-based Luis and Maria Garcia, members of the church for 28 years, have filed the complaint in federal court in Tampa, naming trusts and charitable organisations linked to the controversial church,àAP reported. The lawsuit says: The church, under the leadership of David Miscavige, has strayed from its founding principles and morphed into a secular enterprise whose primary purpose is taking people's money. The Church of Scientology is subject to a lawsuit in Florida The couple, who left the church in 2010 due to conflict of opinion with Miscavige, claim they were asked to donate sums totalling more than ã265,000. According to the Tampa Bay Times, the Garcias allege that, over the years, the church redirected hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations the couple had earmarked specifically for the construction of a massive Super Power building in downtown Clearwater, Florida. But they allege they were also asked to fund campaigns for disaster relief and ending child pornography, all of which went to line the pockets of the church. Church spokesman Pat Harney said in a statement that the church had no comment on an impending lawsuit. We understand from media inquiries this has
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Barry, just to let you know, I clearly appreciate your input on this, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, so as I perceive this post being directed to me, I feel your concern in a very positive way. authfriend: As I said, navashok is lacking in integrity, to put it mildly. What the article Barry posted was describing had nothing to do with anything that was going on or ever *has* gone on on FFL. Barry knows that, navashok knows that. Commenting negatively on something someone said in a post on an Internet forum is not stalking by any honest definition. If it were, almost all of us here would be stalkers, Barry and navashok most definitely included. The motivation for calling this stalking is very simple: It's an attempt at revenge by Barry and nashoka on those who make negative comments on their posts because they are unable to refute the comments, and when they instigate arguments in an attempt to do so, they are unable to win. They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. Neither of them will even try to address what I just said, because they know it's accurate. It's open season on anyone who cross-posts FFL to Usenet. LoL! P.S. Is this even legal? Subject: THINGS TMers BELIEVE, Volume II (6 February 2007) Author: Uncle Tantra Forum: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: March 6, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/aplehry
[FairfieldLife] Cosplay for beginners
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxA4IaRMCew I would crack up if any of you could piece together a Raja's Cosplay for beginners video. Seriously. Costume/Cosmic Play. The robes and crowns. Please hehehehe (crop circles by nabby could be interchanged images.) Do it! Please!! I beg!
[FairfieldLife] Hillary Clinton Tears The GOP A New One
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/01/23/hillary-clinton-tears-the-gop-a-new-one-in-heated-exchange-at-benghazi-hearings-video/
[FairfieldLife] Hillary: the Magneto of finger-pointing
On his show Thursday night, The Daily Show host Jon Stewart lampooned the political theater of the recent hearing on Benghazi. He noted that Republicans at the hearing asked Secretary of State Hillary Clinton the same question repeatedly. Whether Clinton read a particular diplomatic cable from deceased Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens was asked by at least five Republicans. That's a fair point that you don't have to all identically make, Stewart remarked. But you know, you aren't dealing with a rookie here, guys. This ain't Clinton's first go-around at the finger-pointing rodeo. I mean, Clinton is like a finger-pointing Magneto. You come at her and she will turn it around on you. When criticized for not firing anyone over the leadership failure that led to the deaths of four Americans in Libya, Clinton noted a federal statute prohibited State Department officials from being fired for unsatisfactory leadership a federal statute she proposed overturning, but that still existed due to congressional inaction. When criticized for not revamping security protocols, Clinton noted she had previously asked Congress for authority to reallocate funds, *but lacked that authority due to the Republican-led House.* Raw Story (http://s.tt/1yVlU)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: Re the stalking thang, try not to take it too personally. The forms of stalking we see on FFL We don't see any forms of stalking on FFL. Barry thinks stalking consists of people disagreeing with him. If he doesn't like something he gives it a label i.e. dumb cunt, stalker, bliss ninny, cultist... And the list goes on. Because he has so many disparaging names for so many there are obviously a number of readers who find his musings, er, less than objective or, shall we say downright odious.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cartoon koans was Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Road Runner: Beep beep Betty Boop: boo boo bee doop Tweety Bird: I taught I taw a Puddy Tat Sylvester: Suffering Succotash Charlie Brown: Good Grief Snoopy: Cowabunga! Bugs Bunny: Eh, what's up Doc? ? Cwazy Wabbit! Yogi Bear: Yubba Dubba Doo Porky Pig: That's All Folks From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: with immense gratitude to the one who often reveals a window or door where heretofore I could see only a picture of a wall (-: thank you also for offerings about placebo and to Judy for the rich article on same nighty night and sweet dreams
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia
millet (-: From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:40 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia I understand. But butter and salt can go along way. I mean even just a baked potato with butter and salt is perfect. Then if you add sour cream, well that's a whole other dimension. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Oh my goodness.  Having this vegetable over-cooked and forced down me as a child, I can say that I don't like it any way but three ways.  In heavy sauce of any kind, or with ample amounts of melted cheese, or raw, slathered in a creamy dip.  Just butter and salt will not do at all. From: seventhray27 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia  It's still one of my favorite dishes. At Cobb it was just cauliflower with butter and then some salt. I also like cauliflower with butter, salt and some mild cheddar melted into it. A high school girlfriend's family turned me onto that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: Ah ha ha hathe cauliflower stands outhilarious, absolutely hilarious.  Thank you Steve.  Isn't it great how meals remain in our memory?  From: seventhray27 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia  The cauliflower at Cobb Mountain stands out for me. He Bhar, did you know Marla Hunt who originally hailed from SF, and was in the band, Marin County Singers, or something to that effect. She was at Cobb Mountain the same time I was, and we became friends. She even gave a performance one night which I thought was awesome. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/24/2013 06:47 PM, Michael Jackson wrote: I know this is extremely trivial, but do you remember what was the best or most fun meal you ever had on a TM course or at a TM facility? The Egg Plant Moussaka served at Cobb Mountain was wonderful. I bought their recipe book so I could make it myself and there were many other good recipes in that book (which I still have).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL to Obba Ann Ravi
My rahu in 7th combined with his Mars in 1st pretty much torpedoed first marriage. Yay and (-: Sani in Tula good because is exalted when transiting first house, good for dieting, tapas, etc. From: Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL to ObbajeeBA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Eddie Bauer is probably more my speed (-: Anyway, plus in my marriage subchart Rahu is in the house of gain. For me it's a koan.   Me too. From: obbajeeba To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL to Obbajee  Meet in Rahu, marry in Guru? Sounds like a good idea. I think for some? Jack Daniels? LOL Some charts do not follow the Guru Rule of marriage. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Oy! I checked the ephemeris for the last time Rahu transited Ketu and vice versa. A relationship that lasted 15 years began. And I changed my dissertation advisor. Not in PhD program now but funnily enough, I have been thinking about going back to school. Fortunately that moment of silliness came and went. As for relationship, you know what they say: meet in Rahu and get married in Guru. I'm in Mars Merc Rahu now (-: With the Paul Wong neutralizing process I think it's more like 18 seconds than 18 years. Yay! Yay! is right. I just found out that placebo last entered shoebox at Kundalini and whammo, I was fixed. But then suddenly I realized that the imminent movement of cunnilingus towards Katmandu indicated disaster if I kept moving in that direction. Hence, I switched tracks, looked up and discovered Mahatma just left the celestial realms and Jack Daniels had taken its place. Phew, that was close, I thought I might have been a goner until I got a phone call from Muppity Muppity who was in the process of fixing my left knee and setting up a city of lights over Victoria. What a day! Yay!! From: obbajeeba To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL  I like nasty. Why do you think I like Ravi? I like Turq and Bob, oh I love Bob's of different variations, and Robin and Emily and Author and all the rest, including in his own category of wanting very young girls, Nabby. Alex and the Budha at the pump dude, Richard, with time and wording everyone of us can be turned around and why does anyone mind if anyone has opinion? Rahu and Ketu change their meany times tomorrow morning, even though they already changed in their true time, things will either get better or worse and judging by my week??? I think it is going to get better for me. Absolutely. It took the wild west draws and bar room brawls and saloon girls to make me see, even the most seemingly dissolution in behavior, can lead to enlightenment and even speed it up. If Share long takes a bit longer, well, 18 years coming at you this day. Hope you fine the Happy Place. I love everyone on this board, and it is most fun to make fun of funny burger king hats, even though I like the practice that lead before all of that. hahaha. Off to the love gallery. See you all later. oxo -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ditto this - dear Share, a really clueless, crazy post and..You and I never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us right back where we were. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, authfriend wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I have about 30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as juicily and joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time add to or at least support the enjoyment of others. As part of this, and perhaps some of you have noticed, I've decided to not reply to certain kinds of posts to me. I have felt so much better since beginning to do this. And FFL has seemed more fun too. As far as I'm concerned the new year is the time to begin anew and to drop conflicts from the past year. I'm so grateful because it seems that Judy and Ravi and I have begun anew. Sorry to disappoint, toots. You and I never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us right back where we
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of puja to newbie navashok
And sometimes it's fun to be silly and totally unspiritual. Remember, I'm the one who began TM so that I could fulfill all my desires. Little did I know what that promise actually meant. Lucky me (-: From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:59 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of puja to newbie navashok --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: I guess I haven't read as much of your writing as others here have. AND I didn't see much of YOUR writing style in the extra long post (-: As for my traveling to India, anything is possible and I do think I would love it, the richness of it, the sweetness of the people, the unfamiliar beauty of the culture. For me this is where the best spirituality abides. Maybe I got a little taste of that when I went to Amma's programs. You've planted a good idea in my heart and mind, thank you. Well, I'm glad I did. This was the purpose of my post - to connect with intelligent spiritual people ;-) From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of puja to newbie navashok  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Welcome back K T (-: Thanks Share. And thanks Judy and Mr. Soss for cluing me in. How did you all figure it out so quickly? Not difficult really. Apart from the writing style, I frequently mention India - from where I'm posting right now - mentioned the Matri Mandir before, and probably a few other clues. But Share, I really think you should come here one day, you know, Arunachala, Tiruvannamalai, Pondicherry and Auroville (Matri Mandir). You will enjoy the spiritual atmosphere here - not that you don't have any of that in Fairfield as well, but I think it's good to see something different, experience a different spiritual subculture, and I'm sure you would love India. And to mention Robin - I don't see him writing at the moment - I think he should read Aurobindo, Life Divine for example, because a lot of what he says relates to that, what his main objection to Advaita was, the Impersonal. Aurobindo addresses exactly these points, but from a typical Indian perspective, not a Christian one. So he might be interested in his solution of the problem Personal vs Impersonal. From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of puja to newbie navashok  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: BTW, Share, navashok isn't a newbie, he's just using a new handle. He's a supporter of yours. Or at least was the last time he was here. Well, I like to think of myself as a supporter of everyone ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia
ALL the food at the Manor when it was ASCI under Bill Deknatel, including the chicken and fish in the non-vegetarian line. Remember the juice room? And how about those unlimited steamed artichokes for lunch? In those days, money was no object particularly as far as food was concerned. Actually, I'd be more interested in the worst food at a TMO facility. MJ, did you ever visit the MVU in Asheville before it was sold? If so, does cheesecake ring a bell? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I know this is extremely trivial, but do you remember what was the best or most fun meal you ever had on a TM course or at a TM facility?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Now, let me get this straight, are you saying that the TMO continued to raise money for Vedaland AFTER it was announced that Henning was dying? Or that they just offered no refunds for the investments after it was announced the project wasn't happening? It was probably just Fundraising As Usual for the TMO, meaning that the ostensible thing they were using as an excuse to beg for money for was only that, an excuse. With regard to this particular scam, I have to agree with the last line of Salyavin's post below about sheep and shearing. Anyone STUPID enough to invest money in a Hindu Theme Park as if such a thing ever had a chance of drawing paying customers pretty much deserved to be fleeced. He he, the line is from The Magnificent 7, apparently Maharishi's favourite film and definitely one of mine. The thing about the presentation this guy did was how they persuaded you that it would indeed make money. They apparently did a phone poll asking randomly chosen, non TM people if they liked theme parks (yes!) if they liked ancient cultures (yes!) and if they'd go to a theme park based on an ancient culture (yes!). I imagine these people were thinking of Egyptian or Aztec when they said yes and probably not Vedic, whatever that means and typing this I'm thinking that it would have been the worst flop in public entertainment history
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: Barry, just to let you know, I clearly appreciate your input on this, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, so as I perceive this post being directed to me, I feel your concern in a very positive way. As I said, navashok is lacking in integrity, to put it mildly. Because I agree with Barry? That's all the criterion you ever have right? And it's wrong, because I know what Barry INTENTS to say, and appreciate him for his ATTITUDE. What the article Barry posted was describing had nothing to do with anything that was going on or ever *has* gone on on FFL. Barry knows that, navashok knows that. According to your own admission, which you obviously don't remember, you not only expressed, that you would prefer me not being on the forum, but said to one of your piling-on-comrades at the time, when you were engaged in some kind of slugfest with me, 'that's the way to do it. Soon he will give up' (not literally). To chase somebody on a public forum where everyone can post and flood them with negativity, as you do it, under whatever pretext, is actually quite possible, and obvious in your case. In this sense, the article was indeed relating to this type of behavior on FFL, and it is even more obvious, why you of all people don't like this to be discussed. The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. In addition to the normal stalker, who is usually just a single person, you have on groups the phenomenon of piling on. Bullying and psychological harassment are all similar behaviors, and are known to occur in Internet forums, and on Facebook and studied by psychologists. Commenting negatively on something someone said in a post on an Internet forum is not stalking by any honest definition. If it were, almost all of us here would be stalkers, Barry and navashok most definitely included. The motivation for calling this stalking is very simple: It's an attempt at revenge by Barry and nashoka on those who make negative comments on their posts because they are unable to refute the comments, and when they instigate arguments in an attempt to do so, they are unable to win. Total BS of course. In the case of the thread we just talked about, YOU were asking ME, if I didn't know what my mistake was supposed to be!! Give me a break, you didn't even make an argument. They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. Now you are talking a little bit too collectively. With all appreciation of Barry that I have, he could be rough with people. That's not me though. You have not reason to accuse me of any kind of similar behavior. My simple appreciation of Barry, which does not relate to ALL his posts and opinions makes you say that this would prove my lack of integrity and my dishonesty. Not at all! That I acknowledge the positive points in a person, and that I can see - from within his own perspective - the integrity and the wisdom that he expresses, that makes you think that I am dishonest? It only shows your own lack of empathy, you are a social cripple who is unable to wish your opponent even a happy birthday or a happy new year!! You think that would be hypocrisy!!! It speaks volumes about you Look how you treat Richard over the years, how arrogant and full of contempt you speak of him, despite of the fact that he supports you (except in political questions.) I may not agree with him, but I NEVER tread him that way! Your constant appeal to your own supposed intellectual superiority is simply disgusting. Neither of them will even try to address what I just said, because they know it's accurate. Because they know that you are thickheaded, and nobody actually cares about your endless quibbles.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL to Obba Ann Ravi
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:46 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: ** My rahu in 7th combined with his Mars in 1st pretty much torpedoed first marriage. Yay and (-: Well that's not enough data. Mars in 1st indicates someone dynamic, energetic or rash, aggressive whereas Rahu in 7th shows someone who obsesses on relations, not focusing on oneself, co-dependent relationships - so yeah definitely potential problems and I would like to avoid such combinations in potential partners. One chart I have seen had Mars in 1st, Rahu/Ketu along 4/10 - nothing else in Kendras(Sarpa Yoga) and I haven't seen such a miserable, torturous, vengeful person. Sani in Tula good because is exalted when transiting first house, good for dieting, tapas, etc. Sani and Rahu in Tula are very good obviously. In my chart they are together in Tula Navamsa hence my curiosity since this is once in a lifetime transit. -- *From:* Ann awoelfleba...@yahoo.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:36 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL to ObbajeeBA --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Eddie Bauer is probably more my speed (-: Anyway, plus in my marriage subchart Rahu is in the house of gain. For me it's a koan.   Me too. From: obbajeeba To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL to Obbajee  Meet in Rahu, marry in Guru? Sounds like a good idea. I think for some? Jack Daniels? LOL Some charts do not follow the Guru Rule of marriage. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: Oy! I checked the ephemeris for the last time Rahu transited Ketu and vice versa. A relationship that lasted 15 years began. And I changed my dissertation advisor. Not in PhD program now but funnily enough, I have been thinking about going back to school. Fortunately that moment of silliness came and went. As for relationship, you know what they say: meet in Rahu and get married in Guru. I'm in Mars Merc Rahu now (-: With the Paul Wong neutralizing process I think it's more like 18 seconds than 18 years. Yay! Yay! is right. I just found out that placebo last entered shoebox at Kundalini and whammo, I was fixed. But then suddenly I realized that the imminent movement of cunnilingus towards Katmandu indicated disaster if I kept moving in that direction. Hence, I switched tracks, looked up and discovered Mahatma just left the celestial realms and Jack Daniels had taken its place. Phew, that was close, I thought I might have been a goner until I got a phone call from Muppity Muppity who was in the process of fixing my left knee and setting up a city of lights over Victoria. What a day! Yay!! From: obbajeeba To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:06 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: dear everyone on FFL  I like nasty. Why do you think I like Ravi? I like Turq and Bob, oh I love Bob's of different variations, and Robin and Emily and Author and all the rest, including in his own category of wanting very young girls, Nabby. Alex and the Budha at the pump dude, Richard, with time and wording everyone of us can be turned around and why does anyone mind if anyone has opinion? Rahu and Ketu change their meany times tomorrow morning, even though they already changed in their true time, things will either get better or worse and judging by my week??? I think it is going to get better for me. Absolutely. It took the wild west draws and bar room brawls and saloon girls to make me see, even the most seemingly dissolution in behavior, can lead to enlightenment and even speed it up. If Share long takes a bit longer, well, 18 years coming at you this day. Hope you fine the Happy Place. I love everyone on this board, and it is most fun to make fun of funny burger king hats, even though I like the practice that lead before all of that. hahaha. Off to the love gallery. See you all later. oxo -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Ditto this - dear Share, a really clueless, crazy post and..You and I never began anew, and even if we had, this post of yours would have put us right back where we were. On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:30 AM, authfriend wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: During my Christmas vacation I realized that if I'm lucky, I have about 30 more years on this planet. I intend to use that time as juicily and joyfully as possible, and hopefully at the exact same time
Re: [FairfieldLife] SPT: double stops (tt, pp, kk)
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:40 AM, card cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: ** We think especially hard stops 't' and 'tt' (double t?) are quite common in Sanskrit. It seems to us most native speakers of English (and many other languages lacking that suprasegmental[?] phonemic distinction between consonants?) have a hard time to hear the difference in length of t-sounds in words like 'citi' and 'citta'. In English that difference usually seems indicate difference of pronunciation of the preceding *vowel*, e.g: bitter Mr. Biter. Not a good comparison between bitter and citta - the former's a hard t - the latter soft- a big source of confusion for Westerns they almost always harden the t and the d. The secret of practicing the correct pronounciation of the word 'citta'(etc.) might well be first to pronounce 'cit-', then snap your fingers, and after that to pronounce '-ta'. Naturally, that in most cases greatly exaggerates the very short pause between 'cit' and 'ta', but one should perhaps gradually shorter the pause and compare ones pronunciation for instance to this: http://yogasutrastudy.info/ysp-multi-track.html (e.g. suutra I 2: yogash citta-vRtti-nirodhaH)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:14 AM, navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: Barry, just to let you know, I clearly appreciate your input on this, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, so as I perceive this post being directed to me, I feel your concern in a very positive way. As I said, navashok is lacking in integrity, to put it mildly. Because I agree with Barry? That's all the criterion you ever have right? And it's wrong, because I know what Barry INTENTS to say, and appreciate him for his ATTITUDE. No because both of you get your buttons pushed by Judy and you both end up being dishonest and lacking in integrity when you go after her. Very pathetic.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:14 AM, navashok wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: Barry, just to let you know, I clearly appreciate your input on this, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, so as I perceive this post being directed to me, I feel your concern in a very positive way. As I said, navashok is lacking in integrity, to put it mildly. Because I agree with Barry? That's all the criterion you ever have right? And it's wrong, because I know what Barry INTENTS to say, and appreciate him for his ATTITUDE. No because both of you get your buttons pushed by Judy and you both end up being dishonest and lacking in integrity when you go after her. Very pathetic. So disagreeing with Judy means being dishonest and lacking in integrity, because she is the proclaimer of truth? Grow up.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:29 AM, navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:14 AM, navashok wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: Barry, just to let you know, I clearly appreciate your input on this, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, so as I perceive this post being directed to me, I feel your concern in a very positive way. As I said, navashok is lacking in integrity, to put it mildly. Because I agree with Barry? That's all the criterion you ever have right? And it's wrong, because I know what Barry INTENTS to say, and appreciate him for his ATTITUDE. No because both of you get your buttons pushed by Judy and you both end up being dishonest and lacking in integrity when you go after her. Very pathetic. So disagreeing with Judy means being dishonest and lacking in integrity, because she is the proclaimer of truth? Grow up. Judy's right - you indeed have a problem with your English comprehension..LOL
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:29 AM, navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:14 AM, navashok wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: Barry, just to let you know, I clearly appreciate your input on this, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, so as I perceive this post being directed to me, I feel your concern in a very positive way. As I said, navashok is lacking in integrity, to put it mildly. Because I agree with Barry? That's all the criterion you ever have right? And it's wrong, because I know what Barry INTENTS to say, and appreciate him for his ATTITUDE. No because both of you get your buttons pushed by Judy and you both end up being dishonest and lacking in integrity when you go after her. Very pathetic. So disagreeing with Judy means being dishonest and lacking in integrity, because she is the proclaimer of truth? Grow up. Judy's right - you indeed have a problem with your English comprehension..LOL For you navashok, even Steve - http://www.englishclub.com/esl-exams/levels-test-wc.htm. Happy New Year !!!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
snip The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Stalking? - again, don't be ridiculous. If there were anything akin to stalking going on here - they'd be booted. Drama, drama, drama. From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:  The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Why 50? There is more than just one poster here Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding.  Stalking? - again, don't be ridiculous. It's not ridiculous at all. Harassment and bullying do occur. If, whenever you start posting, a majority jumps at you, and immediately starts to pull anything you say into negativity, you will think if it's worthwhile to continue. And if there is a conscious intent behind it, you could very well call it a form of stalking.  If there were anything akin to stalking going on here - they'd be booted.  Drama, drama, drama.  Not necessarily. And in the case of Ravi, it has already happened, so you actually prove my point. From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
First of all, I don't emulate anyone. I speak for myself. Secondly, I don't have the past info, nor do I care. Obsessive posting and cyberstalking are not happening now. From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Stalking? - again, don't be ridiculous. If there were anything akin to stalking going on here - they'd be booted. You mean the way that Ravi was booted off of the forum after *he* began stalking Curtis, with the intention of destroying his online reputation and jeopardizing his ability to find work as an educator? Or the many times that Judy and others have openly declared their intention to drive people they don't like off of this forum? How about the times one or more posters on this forum have accused people of crimes such as tax evasion, or accused them of being drunks or drug addicts? That stuff stays on the Internet forever, and can be found by any potential employer. Drama, drama, drama. And drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. If it weren't for people like you and Ann, who actually seem to be *impressed* by Jr. High School Mean Girl behavior and both look up to and try to emulate Judy's tactics, nobody would be paying any attention to her at all. From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
You mean the way that Ravi was booted off of the forum after *he* began stalking Curtis, with the intention of destroying his online reputation and jeopardizing his ability to find work as an educator? Are you going through another episode of your paranoid, delusional narcissism today Barry baby? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:01 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Stalking? - again, don't be ridiculous. If there were anything akin to stalking going on here - they'd be booted. You mean the way that Ravi was booted off of the forum after *he* began stalking Curtis, with the intention of destroying his online reputation and jeopardizing his ability to find work as an educator? Or the many times that Judy and others have openly declared their intention to drive people they don't like off of this forum? How about the times one or more posters on this forum have accused people of crimes such as tax evasion, or accused them of being drunks or drug addicts? That stuff stays on the Internet forever, and can be found by any potential employer. Drama, drama, drama. And drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. If it weren't for people like you and Ann, who actually seem to be *impressed* by Jr. High School Mean Girl behavior and both look up to and try to emulate Judy's tactics, nobody would be paying any attention to her at all. From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while Â
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Not necessarily. And in the case of Ravi, it has already happened, so you actually prove my point. No - that's what is known as pimp slap. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:09 AM, navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:  The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Why 50? There is more than just one poster here Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding.  Stalking? - again, don't be ridiculous. It's not ridiculous at all. Harassment and bullying do occur. If, whenever you start posting, a majority jumps at you, and immediately starts to pull anything you say into negativity, you will think if it's worthwhile to continue. And if there is a conscious intent behind it, you could very well call it a form of stalking.  If there were anything akin to stalking going on here - they'd be booted.  Drama, drama, drama.  Not necessarily. And in the case of Ravi, it has already happened, so you actually prove my point. From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while Â
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On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: Not necessarily. And in the case of Ravi, it has already happened, so you actually prove my point. No - that's what is known as pimp slap. Oops..that is Kali's Pimp pimp slapping his hoes. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:09 AM, navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:  The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Why 50? There is more than just one poster here Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding.  Stalking? - again, don't be ridiculous. It's not ridiculous at all. Harassment and bullying do occur. If, whenever you start posting, a majority jumps at you, and immediately starts to pull anything you say into negativity, you will think if it's worthwhile to continue. And if there is a conscious intent behind it, you could very well call it a form of stalking.  If there were anything akin to stalking going on here - they'd be booted.  Drama, drama, drama.  Not necessarily. And in the case of Ravi, it has already happened, so you actually prove my point. From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while Â
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You and Barry might consider starting your day with a Bubble Bliss Footbath. http://www.ambientweather.com/psfb50.html From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:  The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Why 50? There is more than just one poster here Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding.  Stalking? - again, don't be ridiculous. It's not ridiculous at all. Harassment and bullying do occur. If, whenever you start posting, a majority jumps at you, and immediately starts to pull anything you say into negativity, you will think if it's worthwhile to continue. And if there is a conscious intent behind it, you could very well call it a form of stalking.  If there were anything akin to stalking going on here - they'd be booted.  Drama, drama, drama.  Not necessarily. And in the case of Ravi, it has already happened, so you actually prove my point. From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while Â
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With the intention of what? Don't be ridiculous - you are reinventing reality again. From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while You mean the way that Ravi was booted off of the forum after *he* began stalking Curtis, with the intention of destroying his online reputation and jeopardizing his ability to find work as an educator? Are you going through another episode of your paranoid, delusional narcissism today Barry baby? On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:01 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Stalking? - again, don't be ridiculous. If there were anything akin to stalking going on here - they'd be booted. You mean the way that Ravi was booted off of the forum after *he* began stalking Curtis, with the intention of destroying his online reputation and jeopardizing his ability to find work as an educator? Or the many times that Judy and others have openly declared their intention to drive people they don't like off of this forum? How about the times one or more posters on this forum have accused people of crimes such as tax evasion, or accused them of being drunks or drug addicts? That stuff stays on the Internet forever, and can be found by any potential employer. Drama, drama, drama. And drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. If it weren't for people like you and Ann, who actually seem to be *impressed* by Jr. High School Mean Girl behavior and both look up to and try to emulate Judy's tactics, nobody would be paying any attention to her at all. From: navashok To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 8:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while Â
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Just as a reminder of the Bad Old Days, from post #121696, back in November, 2006, before the posting limits were imposed: Total posts: 4672 shempmcgurk -- 541 (11.6%) sparaig -- 533 (11.4%) authfriend -- 482 (10.3%) new.morning -- 265 (5.7%) off_world_beings -- 253 (5.4%) turquoiseb -- 218 (4.7%) Again, the top three account for a third of all posts. And again, they'll take no notice of this. So far in November, they account for 47% of all posts made. Please note that my total was little more than we would have today, with the 50-post-per-week limit. Shemp has since left the forum, and when sparaig posts, he clearly has his OCD under control now, and posts only a reasonable number of comments before disappearing again. Judy has made BY FAR more posts than any other person to this forum, approximately 22,650 of them, a cumulative average of 8 posts per day for 7.7 years. Of those, 7574 (33.4%) mention Barry OR Turquoiseb, 2976 (13.1%) mention Vaj, and 2659 (11.7%) mention Curtis. Nope, no stalking there. :-) 2279 of those posts (10%) contain the words lie OR liar OR lying. It's basically her mantra. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: Barry, just to let you know, I clearly appreciate your input on this, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, so as I perceive this post being directed to me, I feel your concern in a very positive way. As I said, navashok is lacking in integrity, to put it mildly. Because I agree with Barry? Because you are supporting him in his ludicrous and knowingly false characterization of what goes on on FFL as stalking, in general, and specifically with regard to our argument yesterday (which *you* started). That's all the criterion you ever have right? Hell, no. This is just the latest instance, as you know. And it's wrong, because I know what Barry INTENTS to say, and appreciate him for his ATTITUDE. What does he intent to say, and what is his attitude? What the article Barry posted was describing had nothing to do with anything that was going on or ever *has* gone on on FFL. Barry knows that, navashok knows that. According to your own admission, which you obviously don't remember, you not only expressed, that you would prefer me not being on the forum, but said to one of your piling-on- comrades at the time, when you were engaged in some kind of slugfest with me, 'that's the way to do it. Soon he will give up' (not literally). Sorry, this is entirely inadequate. You can't remember what I actually said, or to whom I said it, or even when, let alone the full context. I suspect you're either making it up out of whole cloth, or deliberately misinterpreting what I said. Most likely I was referring to the fact that you pop in and out of FFL. Unless I simply meant you would give up on whatever the argument was (if I even used those words). At any rate, it has nothing whatsoever to do with cyberstalking. To chase somebody on a public forum where everyone can post and flood them with negativity, as you do it, under whatever pretext, is actually quite possible, and obvious in your case. No chasing is involved, first of all. We're all here together in the same place. Second, you and Barry both have chosen to flood me with negativity. You have been attacking me on a regular basis ever since I called you on your speculation about another participant's purported personality disorder. And Barry, of course, has been obsessed with attacking me since even before I got here, as I found out *after* I got here (not to mention repeatedly lying about how I purportedly have followed him from forum to forum for the sole purpose of attacking him). In this sense, the article was indeed relating to this type of behavior on FFL, and it is even more obvious, why you of all people don't like this to be discussed. I have no objection to anyone discussing my behavior (as long as they're honest about it), nor do I have any problem with folks discussing cyberstalking, as long as they don't try to portray it as what happens on FFL. And when they *do* try to portray it as such, quite obviously I'm not at all averse to discussing it. The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. It does not correspond. This is a public forum, and anything one person says about another can immediately be contested, in public. Furthermore, if you actually read the article, you know that what the stalker said in her emails was of an entirely different order than what anybody has ever said here about another participant. Plus which, she began sending emails alleging serious misbehavior on the stalkee's part (all false) to associates of the stalkee, which he only found out about when they asked him about her accusations. Wait, I take that back. Barry accused me on FFL of having badmouthed an opponent of mine (back on alt.m.t) to his employer. That was entirely, completely false, and he knew it. That's close to the kind of false accusations the stalker in the article made. Fortunately Barry made the accusation in public, so I was able to refute it. (Although for all I know, he's made it to others in private. But at least my denial is on the public record.) In addition to the normal stalker, who is usually just a single person, you have on groups the phenomenon of piling on. Bullying and psychological harassment are all similar behaviors, and are known to occur in Internet forums, and on Facebook and studied by psychologists. That may be, but it has nothing to do with cyberstalking. It's a different phenomenon. It would never occur to me to call it cyberstalking when Barry or you pile on or engage in bullying and psychological harassment. Commenting negatively on something someone said in a post on an Internet forum is not stalking by any honest definition. If it were, almost all of us
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Inauguration Speech to noozguru
dear noozguru, we're hoping you can stay around for a good long while so be careful what you say here. Big Brother is always watching. Also of course a question: did your tantric teacher give shakti long distance? Thank you for good info and perspective on pujas. Last but not least in reference to a cult show about FF: I'm in (-: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Inauguration Speech A revolution might help though.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Just as a reminder of the Bad Old Days, from post #121696, back in November, 2006, before the posting limits were imposed: Total posts: 4672 shempmcgurk -- 541 (11.6%) sparaig -- 533 (11.4%) authfriend -- 482 (10.3%) new.morning -- 265 (5.7%) off_world_beings -- 253 (5.4%) turquoiseb -- 218 (4.7%) Again, the top three account for a third of all posts. And again, they'll take no notice of this. So far in November, they account for 47% of all posts made. Please note that my total was little more than we would have today, with the 50-post-per-week limit. Shemp has since left the forum, and when sparaig posts, he clearly has his OCD under control now, and posts only a reasonable number of comments before disappearing again. Judy has made BY FAR more posts than any other person to this forum, approximately 22,650 of them, a cumulative average of 8 posts per day for 7.7 years. Of those, 7574 (33.4%) mention Barry OR Turquoiseb, 2976 (13.1%) mention Vaj, and 2659 (11.7%) mention Curtis. Nope, no stalking there. :-) 2279 of those posts (10%) contain the words lie OR liar OR lying. It's basically her mantra. :-) And let us not forget the tribute site created by one of her stalking victims over on alt. meditation.transcendental, before she came here to continue stalking people who had left that forum. Andrew Skolnick was a prize-winning journalist who didn't like TM very much, so that meant that Judy didn't like *him* very much. Andrew chose to reply to her stalking by preserving *her own words* and those of a few of her supporters on this website: http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ Read through a few of her quotes from that pre-FFL era. See if you find any difference whatsoever between her tactics and language then, and now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Oh no Barry baby - you have started talking to yourself again..LOL.. - that's when we sane folks start losing you and know you have drifted in to your paranoid, delusional fantasy la-la-land. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:47 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Just as a reminder of the Bad Old Days, from post #121696, back in November, 2006, before the posting limits were imposed: Total posts: 4672 shempmcgurk -- 541 (11.6%) sparaig -- 533 (11.4%) authfriend -- 482 (10.3%) new.morning -- 265 (5.7%) off_world_beings -- 253 (5.4%) turquoiseb -- 218 (4.7%) Again, the top three account for a third of all posts. And again, they'll take no notice of this. So far in November, they account for 47% of all posts made. Please note that my total was little more than we would have today, with the 50-post-per-week limit. Shemp has since left the forum, and when sparaig posts, he clearly has his OCD under control now, and posts only a reasonable number of comments before disappearing again. Judy has made BY FAR more posts than any other person to this forum, approximately 22,650 of them, a cumulative average of 8 posts per day for 7.7 years. Of those, 7574 (33.4%) mention Barry OR Turquoiseb, 2976 (13.1%) mention Vaj, and 2659 (11.7%) mention Curtis. Nope, no stalking there. :-) 2279 of those posts (10%) contain the words lie OR liar OR lying. It's basically her mantra. :-) And let us not forget the tribute site created by one of her stalking victims over on alt. meditation.transcendental, before she came here to continue stalking people who had left that forum. Andrew Skolnick was a prize-winning journalist who didn't like TM very much, so that meant that Judy didn't like *him* very much. Andrew chose to reply to her stalking by preserving *her own words* and those of a few of her supporters on this website: http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ Read through a few of her quotes from that pre-FFL era. See if you find any difference whatsoever between her tactics and language then, and now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
On 01/24/2013 07:06 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: Hey Alex and Bhairitu, I think I know why the Post Count threads act funny when you try to open them using the Yahoo viewer. All of them have the same title, so in the background the program is having to try to construct the thread history of literally all of them ever posted, and throws up. If it's not a big change in the program, might I suggest adding a date to the title of the posts when you send them? My suspicion is that this would eliminate the Fairfield Life is not available errors. I had also come to the conclusion that that is why the FFL website was having trouble displaying Post Count posts, but it never occurred to me to change the script to include the date in the subject line. That's an excellent idea! What sayest thou, Bhairitu, Master of the Holy Code? Is that possible? It's not a trivial thing to add like the your email thing. The problem with the Post Count might be more that it is displaying email addresses and more and more forums don't want that. On Google Groups they'll even warn that you've included an email address in a post. I think the email address should be trimmed. You'll have a log with the addresses anyway the trim is just done when the Post Count email is composed. Members whose email addresses are posted may notice their spam go down.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Barry, this is like a deja vu moment. You've posted that website at least twice, maybe three times that I can recall. I find Judy's highlighted quotes on their face absolutely hilarious. I really do. This is so passe, as are your constant attempts to cite statistics that prove something. Obviously, the forum determined posting limits were a good idea - they were in place before I got here. I've been booted for a week more than most regular posters here for going over the limit, a few times by accident and also a few times on purpose. They work and I like them and that's the current reality. What are you trying to prove again? From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Just as a reminder of the Bad Old Days, from post #121696, back in November, 2006, before the posting limits were imposed: Total posts: 4672 shempmcgurk -- 541 (11.6%) sparaig -- 533 (11.4%) authfriend -- 482 (10.3%) new.morning -- 265 (5.7%) off_world_beings -- 253 (5.4%) turquoiseb -- 218 (4.7%) Again, the top three account for a third of all posts. And again, they'll take no notice of this. So far in November, they account for 47% of all posts made. Please note that my total was little more than we would have today, with the 50-post-per-week limit. Shemp has since left the forum, and when sparaig posts, he clearly has his OCD under control now, and posts only a reasonable number of comments before disappearing again. Judy has made BY FAR more posts than any other person to this forum, approximately 22,650 of them, a cumulative average of 8 posts per day for 7.7 years. Of those, 7574 (33.4%) mention Barry OR Turquoiseb, 2976 (13.1%) mention Vaj, and 2659 (11.7%) mention Curtis. Nope, no stalking there. :-) 2279 of those posts (10%) contain the words lie OR liar OR lying. It's basically her mantra. :-) And let us not forget the tribute site created by one of her stalking victims over on alt. meditation.transcendental, before she came here to continue stalking people who had left that forum. Andrew Skolnick was a prize-winning journalist who didn't like TM very much, so that meant that Judy didn't like *him* very much. Andrew chose to reply to her stalking by preserving *her own words* and those of a few of her supporters on this website: http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ Read through a few of her quotes from that pre-FFL era. See if you find any difference whatsoever between her tactics and language then, and now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Deja vu and time to ignore Barry - we have lost him for a while, just give him time, he's obsessing - I have lived with a person like him and trust me it sounds very hard for normal people to understand, was hard for me to understand but once these people drift off into paranoid, delusional territory it's very hard for them to switch off - it's a mental disability, so I totally understand. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Barry, this is like a deja vu moment. You've posted that website at least twice, maybe three times that I can recall. I find Judy's highlighted quotes on their face absolutely hilarious. I really do. This is so passe, as are your constant attempts to cite statistics that prove something. Obviously, the forum determined posting limits were a good idea - they were in place before I got here. I've been booted for a week more than most regular posters here for going over the limit, a few times by accident and also a few times on purpose. They work and I like them and that's the current reality. What are you trying to prove again? -- *From:* turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 9:47 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Just as a reminder of the Bad Old Days, from post #121696, back in November, 2006, before the posting limits were imposed: Total posts: 4672 shempmcgurk -- 541 (11.6%) sparaig -- 533 (11.4%) authfriend -- 482 (10.3%) new.morning -- 265 (5.7%) off_world_beings -- 253 (5.4%) turquoiseb -- 218 (4.7%) Again, the top three account for a third of all posts. And again, they'll take no notice of this. So far in November, they account for 47% of all posts made. Please note that my total was little more than we would have today, with the 50-post-per-week limit. Shemp has since left the forum, and when sparaig posts, he clearly has his OCD under control now, and posts only a reasonable number of comments before disappearing again. Judy has made BY FAR more posts than any other person to this forum, approximately 22,650 of them, a cumulative average of 8 posts per day for 7.7 years. Of those, 7574 (33.4%) mention Barry OR Turquoiseb, 2976 (13.1%) mention Vaj, and 2659 (11.7%) mention Curtis. Nope, no stalking there. :-) 2279 of those posts (10%) contain the words lie OR liar OR lying. It's basically her mantra. :-) And let us not forget the tribute site created by one of her stalking victims over on alt. meditation.transcendental, before she came here to continue stalking people who had left that forum. Andrew Skolnick was a prize-winning journalist who didn't like TM very much, so that meant that Judy didn't like *him* very much. Andrew chose to reply to her stalking by preserving *her own words* and those of a few of her supporters on this website: http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ Read through a few of her quotes from that pre-FFL era. See if you find any difference whatsoever between her tactics and language then, and now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 01/24/2013 07:06 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: Hey Alex and Bhairitu, I think I know why the Post Count threads act funny when you try to open them using the Yahoo viewer. All of them have the same title, so in the background the program is having to try to construct the thread history of literally all of them ever posted, and throws up. If it's not a big change in the program, might I suggest adding a date to the title of the posts when you send them? My suspicion is that this would eliminate the Fairfield Life is not available errors. I had also come to the conclusion that that is why the FFL website was having trouble displaying Post Count posts, but it never occurred to me to change the script to include the date in the subject line. That's an excellent idea! What sayest thou, Bhairitu, Master of the Holy Code? Is that possible? It's not a trivial thing to add like the your email thing. I wonder why - in Perl it would be very trivial to append the current date to the subject of an email. It seems easy in Python as well - no? The problem with the Post Count might be more that it is displaying email addresses and more and more forums don't want that. On Google Groups they'll even warn that you've included an email address in a post. I think the email address should be trimmed. You'll have a log with the addresses anyway the trim is just done when the Post Count email is composed. Members whose email addresses are posted may notice their spam go down.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Deja vu and time to ignore Barry - we have lost him for a while, just give him time, he's obsessing - I have lived with a person like him and trust me it sounds very hard for normal people to understand, was hard for me to understand but once these people drift off into paranoid, delusional territory it's very hard for them to switch off - it's a mental disability, so I totally understand. Considering Barry is intelligent and creative it's such a shame he can't get some treatment for his mental disability. If the person I lived with was as intelligent and creative as Barry I perhaps would have not dumped her. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Barry, this is like a deja vu moment. You've posted that website at least twice, maybe three times that I can recall. I find Judy's highlighted quotes on their face absolutely hilarious. I really do. This is so passe, as are your constant attempts to cite statistics that prove something. Obviously, the forum determined posting limits were a good idea - they were in place before I got here. I've been booted for a week more than most regular posters here for going over the limit, a few times by accident and also a few times on purpose. They work and I like them and that's the current reality. What are you trying to prove again? -- *From:* turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 9:47 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Just as a reminder of the Bad Old Days, from post #121696, back in November, 2006, before the posting limits were imposed: Total posts: 4672 shempmcgurk -- 541 (11.6%) sparaig -- 533 (11.4%) authfriend -- 482 (10.3%) new.morning -- 265 (5.7%) off_world_beings -- 253 (5.4%) turquoiseb -- 218 (4.7%) Again, the top three account for a third of all posts. And again, they'll take no notice of this. So far in November, they account for 47% of all posts made. Please note that my total was little more than we would have today, with the 50-post-per-week limit. Shemp has since left the forum, and when sparaig posts, he clearly has his OCD under control now, and posts only a reasonable number of comments before disappearing again. Judy has made BY FAR more posts than any other person to this forum, approximately 22,650 of them, a cumulative average of 8 posts per day for 7.7 years. Of those, 7574 (33.4%) mention Barry OR Turquoiseb, 2976 (13.1%) mention Vaj, and 2659 (11.7%) mention Curtis. Nope, no stalking there. :-) 2279 of those posts (10%) contain the words lie OR liar OR lying. It's basically her mantra. :-) And let us not forget the tribute site created by one of her stalking victims over on alt. meditation.transcendental, before she came here to continue stalking people who had left that forum. Andrew Skolnick was a prize-winning journalist who didn't like TM very much, so that meant that Judy didn't like *him* very much. Andrew chose to reply to her stalking by preserving *her own words* and those of a few of her supporters on this website: http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ Read through a few of her quotes from that pre-FFL era. See if you find any difference whatsoever between her tactics and language then, and now.
[FairfieldLife] The Untouchables
The Untouchables attempts to explain why the Wall Street execs who engineered the great financial wreck of 2008 have never been prosecuted. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/untouchables/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote: Deja vu and time to ignore Barry - we have lost him for a while, just give him time, he's obsessing - I have lived with a person like him and trust me it sounds very hard for normal people to understand, was hard for me to understand but once these people drift off into paranoid, delusional territory it's very hard for them to switch off - it's a mental disability, so I totally understand. Considering Barry is intelligent and creative it's such a shame he can't get some treatment for his mental disability. On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Barry, this is like a deja vu moment. You've posted that website at least twice, maybe three times that I can recall. I find Judy's highlighted quotes on their face absolutely hilarious. I really do. This is so passe, as are your constant attempts to cite statistics that prove something. Obviously, the forum determined posting limits were a good idea - they were in place before I got here. I've been booted for a week more than most regular posters here for going over the limit, a few times by accident and also a few times on purpose. They work and I like them and that's the current reality. What are you trying to prove again? -- *From:* turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, January 25, 2013 9:47 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Just as a reminder of the Bad Old Days, from post #121696, back in November, 2006, before the posting limits were imposed: Total posts: 4672 shempmcgurk -- 541 (11.6%) sparaig -- 533 (11.4%) authfriend -- 482 (10.3%) new.morning -- 265 (5.7%) off_world_beings -- 253 (5.4%) turquoiseb -- 218 (4.7%) Again, the top three account for a third of all posts. And again, they'll take no notice of this. So far in November, they account for 47% of all posts made. Please note that my total was little more than we would have today, with the 50-post-per-week limit. Shemp has since left the forum, and when sparaig posts, he clearly has his OCD under control now, and posts only a reasonable number of comments before disappearing again. Judy has made BY FAR more posts than any other person to this forum, approximately 22,650 of them, a cumulative average of 8 posts per day for 7.7 years. Of those, 7574 (33.4%) mention Barry OR Turquoiseb, 2976 (13.1%) mention Vaj, and 2659 (11.7%) mention Curtis. Nope, no stalking there. :-) 2279 of those posts (10%) contain the words lie OR liar OR lying. It's basically her mantra. :-) And let us not forget the tribute site created by one of her stalking victims over on alt. meditation.transcendental, before she came here to continue stalking people who had left that forum. Andrew Skolnick was a prize-winning journalist who didn't like TM very much, so that meant that Judy didn't like *him* very much. Andrew chose to reply to her stalking by preserving *her own words* and those of a few of her supporters on this website: http://www.aaskolnick.com/junkyarddog/ Read through a few of her quotes from that pre-FFL era. See if you find any difference whatsoever between her tactics and language then, and now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Let's count the lies in this post of Barry's... And see responses to his other two posts in this vein at the end. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: (Note that Barry has carefully not included an attribution for the paragraph immediately below. We'll see why in a moment.) (Navashok wrote:) The article clearly explained that one of the tactics of the stalker was obsessive flooding with emails. This corresponds directly to some behavior here, as flooding with posts can occur here. Please, don't be ridiculousflooding up to 50? Posts in a row is not obsessive flooding. Emily, don't show your newbie ignorance. The very reason there is a posting limit is BECAUSE of Judy and a couple of other posters, who used to flood this forum with hundreds of posts per month. The posting limit was imposed quite some time ago, but navashok refers to flooding as if it were still happening. That's why Barry didn't include an attribution; he doesn't want his buddy to look stupid. Nor does he want anybody to notice that he's reaching years back in his attempt to defend navashok and shame Emily for being a newbie (Emily began posting to FFL over a year and a half ago). Between the three of them, they often accumulated over a third of all the posts made to FFL. When asked to stop, and voluntarily cut down on their excessive (and almost always obsessive, in that they were stalking one person or another) posting, they all refused. Lies number one and two. Rick wisely invented the posting limit, and that is the ONLY reason she posts as little as she does today. Stalking? - again, don't be ridiculous. If there were anything akin to stalking going on here - they'd be booted. You mean the way that Ravi was booted off of the forum after *he* began stalking Curtis, with the intention of destroying his online reputation and jeopardizing his ability to find work as an educator? Lies number three and four. Or the many times that Judy and others have openly declared their intention to drive people they don't like off of this forum? Lie number five. How about the times one or more posters on this forum have accused people of crimes such as tax evasion, Lie number six. or accused them of being drunks or drug addicts? (Actually this would be giving the posters in question the benefit of the doubt--i.e., they were so swizzled they didn't know what they were saying. But let's let this one pass.) That stuff stays on the Internet forever, and can be found by any potential employer. Drama, drama, drama. And drama queens, drama queens, drama queens. If it weren't for people like you and Ann, who actually seem to be *impressed* by Jr. High School Mean Girl behavior and both look up to and try to emulate Judy's tactics, nobody would be paying any attention to her at all. Lie number seven. In a five-paragraph post. If anyone is interested, I'll be happy to expand on why these are all lies (meaning deliberate misrepresentations of the facts--nothing to do with opinions). From another of Barry's posts this morning: Judy has made BY FAR more posts than any other person to this forum, approximately 22,650 of them, a cumulative average of 8 posts per day for 7.7 years. Or only a little over 10 posts more per week than if the posting limit had been in effect all that time. snicker Of those, 7574 (33.4%) mention Barry OR Turquoiseb, 2976 (13.1%) mention Vaj, and 2659 (11.7%) mention Curtis. Nope, no stalking there. :-) As I've pointed out several times before--and as he knows without my saying so--Barry's counting methodology here introduces *gross* distortions into the numbers, with the exception of the total number of my posts. 2279 of those posts (10%) contain the words lie OR liar OR lying. It's basically her mantra. :-) However many original posts of mine there actually were containing these terms, almost all of them would have been addressed to or about the liars here, Barry most prominently. And from still another post of Barry's this morning: And let us not forget the tribute site created by one of her stalking victims over on alt. meditation.transcendental, Lie number one for this post. before she came here to continue stalking people who had left that forum. Lie number two. Andrew Skolnick was a prize-winning journalist who didn't like TM very much, so that meant that Judy didn't like *him* very much. Andrew Skolnick, as Barry knows, was a chronic and malicious liar whose prize-winning journalism where TM was concerned was a compendium of fractional truths carefully calculated to give an impression contrary to fact. Even Barry recognized how dishonest he was. He and Andrew had some very nasty fights in the beginning of Andrew's tenure on alt.m.t, until they decided the enemy of my enemy (moi) is my friend and banded together to get
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: Barry, just to let you know, I clearly appreciate your input on this, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, so as I perceive this post being directed to me, I feel your concern in a very positive way. As I said, navashok is lacking in integrity, to put it mildly. Because I agree with Barry? Because you are supporting him in his ludicrous and knowingly false characterization of what goes on on FFL as stalking, in general, and specifically with regard to our argument yesterday (which *you* started). That's all the criterion you ever have right? Hell, no. This is just the latest instance, as you know. And it's wrong, because I know what Barry INTENTS to say, and appreciate him for his ATTITUDE. What does he intent to say, and what is his attitude? What the article Barry posted was describing had nothing to do with anything that was going on or ever *has* gone on on FFL. Barry knows that, navashok knows that. According to your own admission, which you obviously don't remember, you not only expressed, that you would prefer me not being on the forum, but said to one of your piling-on- comrades at the time, when you were engaged in some kind of slugfest with me, 'that's the way to do it. Soon he will give up' (not literally). Sorry, this is entirely inadequate. No, it is adequate. You can't remember what I actually said, or to whom I said it, or even when, let alone the full context. I remember well the context, and that you said it to either Ann or Raunchy (most liekely). That I don't remember the quote VERBATIM doesn't mean I don't remember it in its context and what that meant. I suspect you're either making it up out of whole cloth, This is your standard phrase when you DENY something. For me it is clear, as I remember it well, and it shows to me YOUR DISHONESTY. I can't prove it, I don't need to, it is enough for me to KNOW and recognize you. or deliberately misinterpreting what I said. Rubbish. You actually know it is true, but you deny it and lie about it. And THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME you do that. You deny and lie repeatedly. Most likely I was referring to the fact that you pop in and out of FFL. Nope, it wasn't about me specifically, it was about somebody else you where chasing away, and in that context you revealed that I would be the next, that I was 'almost at that point' (paraphrased) Unless I simply meant you would give up on whatever the argument was (if I even used those words). At any rate, it has nothing whatsoever to do with cyberstalking. No, it clearly referred to the presence on FFL. And everything is related in some way. Stalking is one expression, bullying or harassment is another. And it is about YOU lying and being in denial, Mrs honesty. To chase somebody on a public forum where everyone can post and flood them with negativity, as you do it, under whatever pretext, is actually quite possible, and obvious in your case. No chasing is involved, first of all. We're all here together in the same place. What about YOUR command of English? Chasing is not meant to be literal and physical. In this case it means that whenever a person appears you jump on him (again allegorically) and try to drag every conversation into something negative, by focusing on some insignificant detail, and by constantly insulting the poster. IOW that what you do here. Second, you and Barry both have chosen to flood me with negativity. You have been attacking me on a regular basis ever since I called you on your speculation about another participant's purported personality disorder. You should really get this out of your head. I mentioned nothing of that sort when I reappeared here, and for a long time. You also completely neglect the context this was done. I know this is the origin of your madness (allegorically here). It gives you this special rational by which you feel justified for your bullying. And Barry, of course, has been obsessed with attacking me since even before I got here, as I found out *after* I got here (not to mention repeatedly lying about how I purportedly have followed him from forum to forum for the sole purpose of attacking him). There is no doubt that you are obsessed with him, and in my mind there is also no doubt that this obsession is poisoning the whole atmosphere of this forum or any other you were both present. Everyone could observe this for years. I have observed it and wondered about it for years at a time, when we were on usually good terms. Even though we agreed on a great number of subjects in the past, and usually had a mutual appreciation, I soon started to wonder about two things: One, why you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
On 01/25/2013 10:27 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 01/24/2013 07:06 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: Hey Alex and Bhairitu, I think I know why the Post Count threads act funny when you try to open them using the Yahoo viewer. All of them have the same title, so in the background the program is having to try to construct the thread history of literally all of them ever posted, and throws up. If it's not a big change in the program, might I suggest adding a date to the title of the posts when you send them? My suspicion is that this would eliminate the Fairfield Life is not available errors. I had also come to the conclusion that that is why the FFL website was having trouble displaying Post Count posts, but it never occurred to me to change the script to include the date in the subject line. That's an excellent idea! What sayest thou, Bhairitu, Master of the Holy Code? Is that possible? It's not a trivial thing to add like the your email thing. I wonder why - in Perl it would be very trivial to append the current date to the subject of an email. It seems easy in Python as well - no? The Post Count script is PHP not Python. The Python version is for people to use with their email as it will read the Mbox file where FFL messages are stored. It's several lines of code add in the right place not just a one liner. I also think it needs to be PHP 4 compatible. You know the dweebs keep feeling the need to change and deprecate things. For instance in Python 3 print is now a function and that will break a lot of scripts.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Inauguration Speech to noozguru
I've been saying such things for years and nothing has happened. Also lots of people say the same thing. I've always been a bit of an anarchist since the 1960s. As an artist I am certainly never going to be a conformist. And I highly doubt, despite my jokes, that the NSA would ever bother reading FFL. The gun ban talk is a distraction to take people's minds away from a failing economy. Such legislation is not as important as taking care of the latter. Happy people do not shoot people with guns. Take care of the economy and then people won't be unhappy and shoot people. And did you know that most gun deaths are suicides? My teacher didn't show me how to do shakti long distance though he said there was a technique for it. Tantra is more a game for younger folks anyway not an old fart like me. On 01/25/2013 09:42 AM, Share Long wrote: dear noozguru, we're hoping you can stay around for a good long while so be careful what you say here. Big Brother is always watching. Also of course a question: did your tantric teacher give shakti long distance? Thank you for good info and perspective on pujas. Last but not least in reference to a cult show about FF: I'm in (-: From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Inauguration Speech A revolution might help though.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: Barry, just to let you know, I clearly appreciate your input on this, WHILE IT WAS GOING ON, so as I perceive this post being directed to me, I feel your concern in a very positive way. As I said, navashok is lacking in integrity, to put it mildly. What the article Barry posted was describing had nothing to do with anything that was going on or ever *has* gone on on FFL. Barry knows that, navashok knows that. Commenting negatively on something someone said in a post on an Internet forum is not stalking by any honest definition. If it were, almost all of us here would be stalkers, Barry and navashok most definitely included. The motivation for calling this stalking is very simple: It's an attempt at revenge by Barry and nashoka on those who make negative comments on their posts because they are unable to refute the comments, and when they instigate arguments in an attempt to do so, they are unable to win. They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. Neither of them will even try to address what I just said, because they know it's accurate. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for the word 'victimize'. As I have a limited time, I chose the word 'victimized' and read every paragraph where he used the word in an original post. This provides a reasonable sample. In not one case does he refer to himself as having been victimized. I really do not think he thinks of himself that way. On the other hand, I think you empathise with those that are regarded as victims of various situations and people. That is a legitimate emotion and I have no quarrel with that. In looking at some of your posts, you seem to tend to use the word pretty much the way Barry uses it, though I think Barry simply does not empathise much or at all by comparison. You used the word victimized almost as frequently as Barry, but (as I did not read through all of those) also got the impression you did not apply the word to yourself, except in one instance: 'Says Curtis, disingenously. He knows I've explicitly rejected the victim notion where Robin was concerned. It was the rest of us who were victimized in being deprived of Robin's contributions'. [Ack! you misspelled the word 'disingenuously' in that sentence.] So I would tend to disagree with your characterisation of Barry as feeling a victim, as being victimised. He often refers to you as having a victim mentality. However you normally do not seem to give that impression. If I would venture a guess, the concept of victimisation is more important to you than it is to Barry. But as you know, you regard me as having the least perception of social nuance of anyone on this forum, so you should speak for yourself on this point. [Note: Due to some of my past history, even though a substantial portion of my life has been in the United States, I tend to spell using the British idiom rather than American (when I remember which is which, that is), but as I am making exact quotations above and below, I retain the original spelling.] === Barry's Original Posts Using the Word 'VICTIMIZED' These are all the posts where Barry used the word rather than just cut and pasted from another source, or in which the word was used when he quoted someone else, or used by someone whose post, or his own original post, was quoted in a reply to such post. I have capitalised the word and put spaces between the letters so it is easily visible in text-only mode, and will not appear in subsequent searches in case someone wants to contradict my information here. turquoiseb Post #332309 Jan 12, 2013 Recent research has shown that there is a one-to-one link between people displaying neurotic behavior and their risk of developing PTSD. Neurotic behavior is defined as a type of personality behavior in which people experience high degrees of anxiety in response to everyday events, and thus tend to overreact to those ordinary events. That seems to me to be almost a definition of the long-term cultic TMer, at least in my experience. How is *cultivating* this behavioral pattern supposed to help those already V I C T I M I Z E D by it? turquoiseb Post #306001 Mar 9, 2012 To attempt to get women to focus on their own victimhood, and live in a constant state of resentment and anger towards those who supposedly V I C T I M I Z E D them is not, in my opinion, a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for the word 'victimize'. As I have a limited time, I chose the word 'victimized' and read every paragraph where he used the word in an original post. This provides a reasonable sample. In not one case does he refer to himself as having been victimized. I really do not think he thinks of himself that way. He does not. Thinking of the people one stalks AS victims is something that stalkers do. Their fantasies revolve around how strongly they are affecting the people they hate. In my considered opinion, the best thing one can do when faced with an Internet stalker is to allow them to fantasize about how strongly they are affecting you (something they would do anyway), while not allow- ing anything they say to affect you at all. Drives them crazy. :-) The other thing it is important to know about stalkers is what the end point or goal of their game plan is. That is, put very simply, to get you to respond to them one-to-one so that in their diseased minds they can have a Robin-like confrontation with you. It *doesn't matter* what you say when replying to them. They already creamed their pants the moment you replied. So don't. It's meaner. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for! LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for the word 'victimize'. As I have a limited time, I chose the word 'victimized' and read every paragraph where he used the word in an original post. This provides a reasonable sample. In not one case does he refer to himself as having been victimized. I really do not think he thinks of himself that way. He does not. Thinking of the people one stalks AS victims is something that stalkers do. Their fantasies revolve around how strongly they are affecting the people they hate. In my considered opinion, the best thing one can do when faced with an Internet stalker is to allow them to fantasize about how strongly they are affecting you (something they would do anyway), while not allow- ing anything they say to affect you at all. Drives them crazy. :-) The other thing it is important to know about stalkers is what the end point or goal of their game plan is. That is, put very simply, to get you to respond to them one-to-one so that in their diseased minds they can have a Robin-like confrontation with you. It *doesn't matter* what you say when replying to them. They already creamed their pants the moment you replied. So don't. It's meaner. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia
No I was done with TM before there was any significant TM presence in western NC - I do remember going for my first bloc of the sidhis to Livingston Manor (the course where they had the Sidha Man/Superman poster in the lobby!) and one day for breakfast they served grits! And they were cooked properly! And yes there were a bunch of Yankees who had no idea of what it was or how to eat it - I overheard a staff guy who was was evidently from the south tell someone else to slap anyone who attempted to put sugar or honey on them. Worst TM food for me was the Chinese stir fired veggies at MIU - they were actually not bad when they first came out of the big kitchen, but due to all the cooks being hot to participate in evening program, the dinners were supposed to be finished cooking at around 4 or 4:30 in the afternoon - so the food sat in warmers for about 3 hours before anyone ate anything and that stuff was turned to veggie mush - everyone hated it. Due to international (meaning Marsh-he and the Srivastavas boys) demanding more and more money from MIU in 1986 - 87, the quality of the ingredients got more and more poor (since the kitchen director was directed to slash his budget as much a possible so he ordered the cheapest and therefore crummiest ingredients possible) the quality of the food was going downhill - when I first arrived at MIU I was a committed vegetarian of about 5 years - by the time I left I had begun to eat meat just to have a break from the lousy food - the first thing I ate was fried chicken from some mom and pop place there in Fairfield - can't remember the place's name. An example of how the budget slashing affected the bakery - we often made apple pies or apple crisp or apple brown betty - at first we used fresh apples, washed, and cored them right in the bakery, and cut them up - labor intensive but worth it, especially if they got Braeburns or something like that - then all the fresh apples were replaced with big ass cans of already peeled and cut up apples - at least they got the ones packed in water instead of syrup From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:10 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia ALL the food at the Manor when it was ASCI under Bill Deknatel, including the chicken and fish in the non-vegetarian line. Remember the juice room? And how about those unlimited steamed artichokes for lunch? In those days, money was no object particularly as far as food was concerned. Actually, I'd be more interested in the worst food at a TMO facility. MJ, did you ever visit the MVU in Asheville before it was sold? If so, does cheesecake ring a bell? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I know this is extremely trivial, but do you remember what was the best or most fun meal you ever had on a TM course or at a TM facility?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for! LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. I understand now why you live in Fairfield. You would never be able to survive in the real world. In recent studies, 80% of all employers surveyed said that they perform Internet background searches on all potential employees, examining their posts on Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, etc. Many government jobs *require* that such a search be performed. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO Unlike you, I will never need to rely on American Social Security. Nor, hopefully, ever need to live in your third world bankrupt nation again. :-) BTW, the word is expatriate, not ex patriot. I have never been a patriot, and would sooner die than be considered one. If I had to choose between betraying my friend or my country, I hope I'd have the guts to betray my country. - E.M. Forster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for the word 'victimize'. As I have a limited time, I chose the word 'victimized' and read every paragraph where he used the word in an original post. This provides a reasonable sample. In not one case does he refer to himself as having been victimized. I really do not think he thinks of himself that way. He does not. Thinking of the people one stalks AS victims is something that stalkers do. Their fantasies revolve around how strongly they are affecting the people they hate. In my considered opinion, the best thing one can do when faced with an Internet stalker is to allow them to fantasize about how strongly they are affecting you (something they would do anyway), while not allow- ing anything they say to affect you at all. Drives them crazy. :-) The other thing it is important to know about stalkers is what the end point or goal of their game plan is. That is, put very simply, to get you to respond to them one-to-one so that in their diseased minds they can have a Robin-like confrontation with you. It *doesn't matter* what you say when replying to them. They already creamed their pants the moment you replied. So don't. It's meaner. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
Sal, I hope you will forgive me for asking so many questions - were you on a residence course or WPA at the time? Surely it wasn't a TTC or Governor training was it? Much as I revile the Movement I can't imagine they would do any kind of sales pitch to people who are rounding!!! Wonder how people like Nabby would justify the selling of this thing under the circumstance of Henning's death? From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Now, let me get this straight, are you saying that the TMO continued to raise money for Vedaland AFTER it was announced that Henning was dying? Or that they just offered no refunds for the investments after it was announced the project wasn't happening? Yes. They were selling minimum lots of $50,000 when Henning was on his death bed and vedaland obviously wasn't going to happen. But they knew alright, he was in a hospice at the time unbeknownst to us poor saps on the receiving end of the PR spin. I remember someone at the presentation asking what Doug was doing at the time and the slick PR guy evasively said Doug's a great guy and really committed to the project thus neatly sidestepping the question. It should have registered with me more than it did but I was rather depressed by all the sales projection charts and BS phone poll results that the TMO had done to care much about any of it. Henning died a few weeks later and I was still on the course, I realised what had happened and was fucking livid but my protests met with the usual Maharishi knows what he is doing crap. Yep, ripping off the flock is what he was doing. I stopped taking it seriously after that, then the raja thing started with all the million dollar donations and then the Kaplan letter etc. I know many people who donated to things that never happened but they all believed that the money was going to where it was most needed so it didn't matter! I always hoped I'd meet the PR guy again so I could punch his lights out. His presentation started with movie about Doug Henning and his amazing magic act which included making elephants disappear (probably not up his sleeve) it was great stuff and in the NLP adverts he did when he lived at the TM headquarters in England he came across as a really nice guy. Poor sod. I wonder if he knew. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 2:41 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I would love to know why those Kaplan boys never did it - they were pretty steamed at Marsh-he. I think I'll ask my friend George - he used to know Earl pretty good I think. I sure as hell would have done, but I think Turq is right about why people don't like to rock the boat. For most people the threat of being banned from courses is enough to get them back in line. The thought of losing that fast- lane to enlightenment appears to be worth more than anything to most people in the TMO. Including their pride and sense of right and wrong. And I've seen some shocking abuses of peoples trust and money. Some due to incompetence, some deliberate fraud. I saw a presentation about vedaland, the TM themepark that Marshy was planning in Canada. Designed by magician Doug Henning, it was going to have floating buildings as well as being educational for the masses about the mythical vedic civilisation. It was a slick and, I thought, very cynical money making scheme with a minimum stake of $50,000. But my ire at their use of BS PR tactics to raise money was nothing compared to the anger I voiced when it turned out that it wasn't going to happen because Doug Henning was on his deathbed with liver cancer. I was on a course at the time and I was the only one who raised hell about it. Apart from the obviously dubious morals it's actually illegal, in Europe anyway, to raise money for something that isn't going to happen. And if you raise money and it doesn't happen for some reason you have to offer a refund. The TMO didn't bother with that obviously and blew all their credibility with me in an instant but what got me was the cowed and defeated attitude of everyone else. Too scared to rock the boat in case they got sent home. What sort of spontaneous right action was that? If god didn't want them sheared he would not have made them sheep From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:09 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Can't wait for the big
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
On 01/25/2013 10:56 AM, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/25/2013 10:27 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 01/24/2013 07:06 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: Hey Alex and Bhairitu, I think I know why the Post Count threads act funny when you try to open them using the Yahoo viewer. All of them have the same title, so in the background the program is having to try to construct the thread history of literally all of them ever posted, and throws up. If it's not a big change in the program, might I suggest adding a date to the title of the posts when you send them? My suspicion is that this would eliminate the Fairfield Life is not available errors. I had also come to the conclusion that that is why the FFL website was having trouble displaying Post Count posts, but it never occurred to me to change the script to include the date in the subject line. That's an excellent idea! What sayest thou, Bhairitu, Master of the Holy Code? Is that possible? It's not a trivial thing to add like the your email thing. I wonder why - in Perl it would be very trivial to append the current date to the subject of an email. It seems easy in Python as well - no? The Post Count script is PHP not Python. The Python version is for people to use with their email as it will read the Mbox file where FFL messages are stored. It's several lines of code add in the right place not just a one liner. I also think it needs to be PHP 4 compatible. You know the dweebs keep feeling the need to change and deprecate things. For instance in Python 3 print is now a function and that will break a lot of scripts. I'll take that back as I found a one-liner that will do the trick for adding date and time to the subject.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Turq, In a sexy way, I thought you were pretty smart, cute, etc. Now, it is like I caught you putting lipstick on and fucking the dog. hahaha. Ex-Patiot http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/why-the-ex-patriot-act-is-a-creepy-law/257368/ Number two: I do not live in Fairfield. Never have, never will. Number three: The Jobs or employers you mentioned. I would never apply for, and if I was hired, it would be from headhunters begging me to come and work for their clients. :) Social security will not exist by the time I get to have it. Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL Peace handsome -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for! LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. I understand now why you live in Fairfield. You would never be able to survive in the real world. In recent studies, 80% of all employers surveyed said that they perform Internet background searches on all potential employees, examining their posts on Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, etc. Many government jobs *require* that such a search be performed. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO Unlike you, I will never need to rely on American Social Security. Nor, hopefully, ever need to live in your third world bankrupt nation again. :-) BTW, the word is expatriate, not ex patriot. I have never been a patriot, and would sooner die than be considered one. If I had to choose between betraying my friend or my country, I hope I'd have the guts to betray my country. - E.M. Forster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for the word 'victimize'. As I have a limited time, I chose the word 'victimized' and read every paragraph where he used the word in an original post. This provides a reasonable sample. In not one case does he refer to himself as having been victimized. I really do not think he thinks of himself that way. He does not. Thinking of the people one stalks AS victims is something that stalkers do. Their fantasies revolve around how strongly they are affecting the people they hate. In my considered opinion, the best thing one can do when faced with an Internet stalker is to allow them to fantasize about how strongly they are affecting you (something they would do anyway), while not allow- ing anything they say to affect you at all. Drives them crazy. :-) The other thing it is important to know about stalkers is what the end point or goal of their game plan is. That is, put very simply, to get you to respond to them one-to-one so that in their diseased minds they can have a Robin-like confrontation with you. It *doesn't matter* what you say when replying to them. They already creamed their pants the moment you replied. So don't. It's meaner. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Sal, I hope you will forgive me for asking so many questions - were you on a residence course or WPA at the time? Surely it wasn't a TTC or Governor training was it? Ask away old chap. It was a WPA to stop the war in Yugoslavia. I never made TTC, funnily enough ;-) I loved TM and wanted to live and work with the movement but got disillusioned very quickly, this incident happened within a year of me joining up. Much as I revile the Movement I can't imagine they would do any kind of sales pitch to people who are rounding!!! That's another point that annoyed me, we'd been rounding 9 hours a day, some of us for months. Talk about easy target. And the course leaders pointed out the rich dudes on the course so they could get extra smarm from the PR guy over dinner. It was all most distasteful. Wonder how people like Nabby would justify the selling of this thing under the circumstance of Henning's death? I've mentioned this here before and it rarely gets a comment, most movement people I've told understand it was wrong but can't reconcile it with what they want the movement to be I suppose. But as I say I was the only one at the time who felt strongly enough to complain, everyone else just kept the boat steady. As did I because I thought all the rounding would be good for me personally, but I got sick of it and desperately needed to do some activity and quit before the course ended.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I'll take that back as I found a one-liner that will do the trick for adding date and time to the subject. Kinda figured you'd be able to do so. It's a pretty piss-poor language that doesn't have a simple date() function. If I'm right about why the Yahoo Web Viewer is throwing up trying to load these posts, just the date would do it...no need to add the time. All that would be required to avoid the problem is a unique Subject line, and date alone would accomplish that. Thanks for looking into it...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Much as I revile the Movement I can't imagine they would do any kind of sales pitch to people who are rounding!!! That's another point that annoyed me, we'd been rounding 9 hours a day, some of us for months. Talk about easy target. And the course leaders pointed out the rich dudes on the course so they could get extra smarm from the PR guy over dinner. It was all most distasteful. Pretty classic TMO. I mean, on rounding courses participants are too fragile and too much in altered states of mind to be allowed to go into town by themselves, or even on a walk without a buddy. But they're fair game for being hit up to make minimum $50,000 investments.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
Well, I must say that this is a new low I have now discovered for the TM Movement - the fact that most of the TM teachers I ever knew really seemed to take very seriously the idea that when one is rounding, one only does the meditation, resting and watching/listening to whatever the knowledge program was about gave me a lot of emotional comfort where the TMO was concerned and was one of the last good feelings I had about the Movement I mean if nothing else the instruction was to NOT make any major decisions when rounding! Man oh man. That is the very last straw - the TMO was and is all about MONEY - I wish someone would take one of those old tapes of Marsh-hee walking around smiling and accepting flowers and set it the the music of the O'Jays For the Love of Money, and for good measure digitally replace the flowers he is receiving from his adoring TM admirers with fist fulls of hundred dollar bills. From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Sal, I hope you will forgive me for asking so many questions - were you on a residence course or WPA at the time? Surely it wasn't a TTC or Governor training was it? Ask away old chap. It was a WPA to stop the war in Yugoslavia. I never made TTC, funnily enough ;-) I loved TM and wanted to live and work with the movement but got disillusioned very quickly, this incident happened within a year of me joining up. Much as I revile the Movement I can't imagine they would do any kind of sales pitch to people who are rounding!!! That's another point that annoyed me, we'd been rounding 9 hours a day, some of us for months. Talk about easy target. And the course leaders pointed out the rich dudes on the course so they could get extra smarm from the PR guy over dinner. It was all most distasteful. Wonder how people like Nabby would justify the selling of this thing under the circumstance of Henning's death? I've mentioned this here before and it rarely gets a comment, most movement people I've told understand it was wrong but can't reconcile it with what they want the movement to be I suppose. But as I say I was the only one at the time who felt strongly enough to complain, everyone else just kept the boat steady. As did I because I thought all the rounding would be good for me personally, but I got sick of it and desperately needed to do some activity and quit before the course ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
On 01/25/2013 12:51 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I'll take that back as I found a one-liner that will do the trick for adding date and time to the subject. Kinda figured you'd be able to do so. It's a pretty piss-poor language that doesn't have a simple date() function. If I'm right about why the Yahoo Web Viewer is throwing up trying to load these posts, just the date would do it...no need to add the time. All that would be required to avoid the problem is a unique Subject line, and date alone would accomplish that. Thanks for looking into it... The problem was a one liner that would return UTC time. Found one that returns GMT time (close enough) and actually it should say UTC instead of GMT because my bet it will still be GMT when BST is in effect. And I'm not sure that function was around when I wrote the script over 4 years ago. Adding the date will probably help but I also think the main problem is Yahoo Groups no longer likes to have email addresses displayed. I sent Alex a version where showing the email address is optional and just shows the handles.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia
It was just one lie and she looked me right in the eye when she told it to me and in the next two minutes I saw with my own eyes that what she had told me was a lie - not a big thing, but it made me realize just how much of a soul mate she was to Greg From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:46 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia I'm sorry to hear she was like that. I had little interaction with her. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: He musta shrunk by the time I met him - I am only 5' 10 and he was distinctly shorter than me - kind of skinny - in fact I always thought his twit of a wife Georgina could have easily knocked him down had she a mind to - instead she just acted above everyone else and told me lies. From: Ann To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:12 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Trivia  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: I know this is extremely trivial, but do you remember what was the best or most fun meal you ever had on a TM course or at a TM facility? Two stand out. Arosa sometime around '77 or '78. The chef was Michael, from Germany. He made some potatoes (chunks) that he fried in pure butter. Just awesome. Then in Courcheval at the first six month course. Same chef. Gulob Jamons made from fresh milk boiled down, instead powdered milk. It took him all day. The thing about Arosa, and I've mentioned this before, Greg Wilson nearly single handedly destroyed that course by stealing food, and being the ring leader of guys playing tricks on the chef. He became angry and resentful. To have the best chef in the movement at that time was awesome, and this goofball nearly ruined it. What is he doing now anyway.? I think he was involved in some oil deal in Canada. I don't feel kindly towards him at all. I remember Greg Wilson from MIU. I remember him as tall, blond and not bad looking. But if he came between you and a good meal then I can understand your resentment. I loved the food at MIU '75-'80. The students would just gorge on the pizzas on pizza night and they seemed to always have ice cream with chocolate sauce and lots of granola at hand so I think I had a sunday practically every night. No one went hungry, let's put it that way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/25/2013 12:51 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: I'll take that back as I found a one-liner that will do the trick for adding date and time to the subject. Kinda figured you'd be able to do so. It's a pretty piss-poor language that doesn't have a simple date() function. If I'm right about why the Yahoo Web Viewer is throwing up trying to load these posts, just the date would do it...no need to add the time. All that would be required to avoid the problem is a unique Subject line, and date alone would accomplish that. Thanks for looking into it... The problem was a one liner that would return UTC time. Found one that returns GMT time (close enough) and actually it should say UTC instead of GMT because my bet it will still be GMT when BST is in effect. And I'm not sure that function was around when I wrote the script over 4 years ago. Adding the date will probably help but I also think the main problem is Yahoo Groups no longer likes to have email addresses displayed. I sent Alex a version where showing the email address is optional and just shows the handles. Dunno if this is helpful or not, but the laptop that runs the post count script is set to UTC. After years of making sure the system clock was changed correctly for daylight savings time, so that the script would run at the correct time, I went duh and just set the clock to UTC.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
OK so a couple more questions so I can get the full flavor of this deal - what did you mean by they were selling lots - like in having a home there or something like that? Also I assume the WPA you were on was in England - does anyone know if they had WPAs to end the Yugoslavian war here in the United States? From: salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Sal, I hope you will forgive me for asking so many questions - were you on a residence course or WPA at the time? Surely it wasn't a TTC or Governor training was it? Ask away old chap. It was a WPA to stop the war in Yugoslavia. I never made TTC, funnily enough ;-) I loved TM and wanted to live and work with the movement but got disillusioned very quickly, this incident happened within a year of me joining up. Much as I revile the Movement I can't imagine they would do any kind of sales pitch to people who are rounding!!! That's another point that annoyed me, we'd been rounding 9 hours a day, some of us for months. Talk about easy target. And the course leaders pointed out the rich dudes on the course so they could get extra smarm from the PR guy over dinner. It was all most distasteful. Wonder how people like Nabby would justify the selling of this thing under the circumstance of Henning's death? I've mentioned this here before and it rarely gets a comment, most movement people I've told understand it was wrong but can't reconcile it with what they want the movement to be I suppose. But as I say I was the only one at the time who felt strongly enough to complain, everyone else just kept the boat steady. As did I because I thought all the rounding would be good for me personally, but I got sick of it and desperately needed to do some activity and quit before the course ended.
[FairfieldLife] Bobby Jindal for President in 2016?
The Republicans appear to be pushing him as the front man for the party. Jindal is talking loud and clear for the time being. Who else is the likely candidate for the party? He is after all born and raised in the USA. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/jindal-takes-obama-challenges-republicans-redefine-party-020802357--election.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
I'll take that back as I found a one-liner that will do the trick for adding date and time to the subject. Awesome Uncle-ji !!! On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 01/25/2013 10:56 AM, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/25/2013 10:27 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 01/24/2013 07:06 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: Hey Alex and Bhairitu, I think I know why the Post Count threads act funny when you try to open them using the Yahoo viewer. All of them have the same title, so in the background the program is having to try to construct the thread history of literally all of them ever posted, and throws up. If it's not a big change in the program, might I suggest adding a date to the title of the posts when you send them? My suspicion is that this would eliminate the Fairfield Life is not available errors. I had also come to the conclusion that that is why the FFL website was having trouble displaying Post Count posts, but it never occurred to me to change the script to include the date in the subject line. That's an excellent idea! What sayest thou, Bhairitu, Master of the Holy Code? Is that possible? It's not a trivial thing to add like the your email thing. I wonder why - in Perl it would be very trivial to append the current date to the subject of an email. It seems easy in Python as well - no? The Post Count script is PHP not Python. The Python version is for people to use with their email as it will read the Mbox file where FFL messages are stored. It's several lines of code add in the right place not just a one liner. I also think it needs to be PHP 4 compatible. You know the dweebs keep feeling the need to change and deprecate things. For instance in Python 3 print is now a function and that will break a lot of scripts. I'll take that back as I found a one-liner that will do the trick for adding date and time to the subject.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL LOL..Yes dear Obba Barry seriously needs a woman to set him straight. But seriously - if he does end up emailing you let the sharing be one way - from you, to him - don't want you to be traumatized :-). On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM, obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: ** Turq, In a sexy way, I thought you were pretty smart, cute, etc. Now, it is like I caught you putting lipstick on and fucking the dog. hahaha. Ex-Patiot http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/why-the-ex-patriot-act-is-a-creepy-law/257368/ Number two: I do not live in Fairfield. Never have, never will. Number three: The Jobs or employers you mentioned. I would never apply for, and if I was hired, it would be from headhunters begging me to come and work for their clients. :) Social security will not exist by the time I get to have it. Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL Peace handsome -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for! LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. I understand now why you live in Fairfield. You would never be able to survive in the real world. In recent studies, 80% of all employers surveyed said that they perform Internet background searches on all potential employees, examining their posts on Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, etc. Many government jobs *require* that such a search be performed. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO Unlike you, I will never need to rely on American Social Security. Nor, hopefully, ever need to live in your third world bankrupt nation again. :-) BTW, the word is expatriate, not ex patriot. I have never been a patriot, and would sooner die than be considered one. If I had to choose between betraying my friend or my country, I hope I'd have the guts to betray my country. - E.M. Forster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for the word 'victimize'. As I have a limited time, I chose the word 'victimized' and read every paragraph where he used the word in an original post. This provides a reasonable sample. In not one case does he refer to himself as having been victimized. I really do not think he thinks of himself that way. He does not. Thinking of the people one stalks AS victims is something that stalkers do. Their fantasies revolve around how strongly they are affecting the people they hate. In my considered opinion, the best thing one can do when faced with an Internet stalker is to allow them to fantasize about how strongly they are affecting you (something they would do anyway), while not allow- ing anything they say to affect you at all. Drives them crazy. :-) The other thing it is important to know about stalkers is what the end point or goal of their game plan is. That is, put very simply, to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
Getting it to work on Alex's machine is another trick. :-D On 01/25/2013 02:20 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: I'll take that back as I found a one-liner that will do the trick for adding date and time to the subject. Awesome Uncle-ji !!! On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 01/25/2013 10:56 AM, Bhairitu wrote: On 01/25/2013 10:27 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: ** On 01/24/2013 07:06 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: Hey Alex and Bhairitu, I think I know why the Post Count threads act funny when you try to open them using the Yahoo viewer. All of them have the same title, so in the background the program is having to try to construct the thread history of literally all of them ever posted, and throws up. If it's not a big change in the program, might I suggest adding a date to the title of the posts when you send them? My suspicion is that this would eliminate the Fairfield Life is not available errors. I had also come to the conclusion that that is why the FFL website was having trouble displaying Post Count posts, but it never occurred to me to change the script to include the date in the subject line. That's an excellent idea! What sayest thou, Bhairitu, Master of the Holy Code? Is that possible? It's not a trivial thing to add like the your email thing. I wonder why - in Perl it would be very trivial to append the current date to the subject of an email. It seems easy in Python as well - no? The Post Count script is PHP not Python. The Python version is for people to use with their email as it will read the Mbox file where FFL messages are stored. It's several lines of code add in the right place not just a one liner. I also think it needs to be PHP 4 compatible. You know the dweebs keep feeling the need to change and deprecate things. For instance in Python 3 print is now a function and that will break a lot of scripts. I'll take that back as I found a one-liner that will do the trick for adding date and time to the subject.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
Keep digging, MJ, soon you will have enough material to keep you in a perpetual angry froth for the next decade. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Well, I must say that this is a new low I have now discovered for the TM Movement - the fact that most of the TM teachers I ever knew really seemed to take very seriously the idea that when one is rounding, one only does the meditation, resting and watching/listening to whatever the knowledge program was about gave me a lot of emotional comfort where the TMO was concerned and was one of the last good feelings I had about the Movement I mean if nothing else the instruction was to NOT make any major decisions when rounding! Man oh man. That is the very last straw - the TMO was and is all about MONEY - I wish someone would take one of those old tapes of Marsh-hee walking around smiling and accepting flowers and set it the the music of the O'Jays For the Love of Money, and for good measure digitally replace the flowers he is receiving from his adoring TM admirers with fist fulls of hundred dollar bills. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Sal, I hope you will forgive me for asking so many questions - were you on a residence course or WPA at the time? Surely it wasn't a TTC or Governor training was it? Ask away old chap. It was a WPA to stop the war in Yugoslavia. I never made TTC, funnily enough ;-) I loved TM and wanted to live and work with the movement but got disillusioned very quickly, this incident happened within a year of me joining up. Much as I revile the Movement I can't imagine they would do any kind of sales pitch to people who are rounding!!! That's another point that annoyed me, we'd been rounding 9 hours a day, some of us for months. Talk about easy target. And the course leaders pointed out the rich dudes on the course so they could get extra smarm from the PR guy over dinner. It was all most distasteful. Wonder how people like Nabby would justify the selling of this thing under the circumstance of Henning's death? I've mentioned this here before and it rarely gets a comment, most movement people I've told understand it was wrong but can't reconcile it with what they want the movement to be I suppose. But as I say I was the only one at the time who felt strongly enough to complain, everyone else just kept the boat steady. As did I because I thought all the rounding would be good for me personally, but I got sick of it and desperately needed to do some activity and quit before the course ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Untouchables
Sounds interesting. It's available OnDemand here. On 01/25/2013 10:34 AM, raunchydog wrote: The Untouchables attempts to explain why the Wall Street execs who engineered the great financial wreck of 2008 have never been prosecuted. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/untouchables/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Thank you, Ravi! I almost gave up my internet virginity to Barry! Could destabilize any future bro's here, for something else! Woah. Whew. Coo. Maybe Barry can wear the red one piece long johns with the ass trap open or some picture such as.. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL LOL..Yes dear Obba Barry seriously needs a woman to set him straight. But seriously - if he does end up emailing you let the sharing be one way - from you, to him - don't want you to be traumatized :-). On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM, obbajeeba wrote: ** Turq, In a sexy way, I thought you were pretty smart, cute, etc. Now, it is like I caught you putting lipstick on and fucking the dog. hahaha. Ex-Patiot http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/why-the-ex-patriot-act-is-a-creepy-law/257368/ Number two: I do not live in Fairfield. Never have, never will. Number three: The Jobs or employers you mentioned. I would never apply for, and if I was hired, it would be from headhunters begging me to come and work for their clients. :) Social security will not exist by the time I get to have it. Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL Peace handsome -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for! LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. I understand now why you live in Fairfield. You would never be able to survive in the real world. In recent studies, 80% of all employers surveyed said that they perform Internet background searches on all potential employees, examining their posts on Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, etc. Many government jobs *require* that such a search be performed. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO Unlike you, I will never need to rely on American Social Security. Nor, hopefully, ever need to live in your third world bankrupt nation again. :-) BTW, the word is expatriate, not ex patriot. I have never been a patriot, and would sooner die than be considered one. If I had to choose between betraying my friend or my country, I hope I'd have the guts to betray my country. - E.M. Forster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for the word 'victimize'. As I have a limited time, I chose the word 'victimized' and read every paragraph where he used the word in an original post. This provides a reasonable sample. In not one case does he refer to himself as having been victimized. I really do not think he thinks of himself that way. He does not. Thinking of the people one stalks AS victims is something that stalkers do. Their fantasies revolve around how strongly they are affecting the people they hate. In my considered opinion, the best thing one can
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Thank you, Ravi! I almost gave up my internet virginity to Barry! Could destabilize any future bro's here, for something else! Woah. Whew. Coo. Maybe Barry can wear the red one piece long johns with the ass trap open or some picture such as.. :) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL LOL..Yes dear Obba Barry seriously needs a woman to set him straight. But seriously - if he does end up emailing you let the sharing be one way - from you, to him - don't want you to be traumatized :-). On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM, obbajeeba wrote: ** Turq, In a sexy way, I thought you were pretty smart, cute, etc. Now, it is like I caught you putting lipstick on and fucking the dog. hahaha. Ex-Patiot http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/why-the-ex-patriot-act-is-a-creepy-law/257368/ Number two: I do not live in Fairfield. Never have, never will. Number three: The Jobs or employers you mentioned. I would never apply for, and if I was hired, it would be from headhunters begging me to come and work for their clients. :) Social security will not exist by the time I get to have it. Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL Peace handsome -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for! LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. I understand now why you live in Fairfield. You would never be able to survive in the real world. In recent studies, 80% of all employers surveyed said that they perform Internet background searches on all potential employees, examining their posts on Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, etc. Many government jobs *require* that such a search be performed. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO Unlike you, I will never need to rely on American Social Security. Nor, hopefully, ever need to live in your third world bankrupt nation again. :-) BTW, the word is expatriate, not ex patriot. I have never been a patriot, and would sooner die than be considered one. If I had to choose between betraying my friend or my country, I hope I'd have the guts to betray my country. - E.M. Forster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for the word 'victimize'. As I have a limited time, I chose the word 'victimized' and read every paragraph where he used the word in an original post. This provides a reasonable sample. In not one case does he refer to himself as having been victimized. I really do not think he thinks of himself that way. He does not. Thinking of the people one stalks AS victims is something that stalkers do. Their fantasies revolve around how strongly they are affecting the people they hate. In my considered opinion, the best thing one can
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
L'enfer, c'est le PHP. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Getting it to work on Alex's machine is another trick. :-D On 01/25/2013 02:20 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: I'll take that back as I found a one-liner that will do the trick for adding date and time to the subject. Awesome Uncle-ji !!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
If he had the lipstick on, wouldn't the roles be reversed, wrt the dog? I dunno -- Once you threw cross dressing and/or gender bending into the mix, it became weirder than a david lynch movie. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Turq, In a sexy way, I thought you were pretty smart, cute, etc. Now, it is like I caught you putting lipstick on and fucking the dog. hahaha. Ex-Patiot http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/why-the-ex-patriot-act-is-a-creepy-law/257368/ Number two: I do not live in Fairfield. Never have, never will. Number three: The Jobs or employers you mentioned. I would never apply for, and if I was hired, it would be from headhunters begging me to come and work for their clients. :) Social security will not exist by the time I get to have it. Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL Peace handsome -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for! LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. I understand now why you live in Fairfield. You would never be able to survive in the real world. In recent studies, 80% of all employers surveyed said that they perform Internet background searches on all potential employees, examining their posts on Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, etc. Many government jobs *require* that such a search be performed. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO Unlike you, I will never need to rely on American Social Security. Nor, hopefully, ever need to live in your third world bankrupt nation again. :-) BTW, the word is expatriate, not ex patriot. I have never been a patriot, and would sooner die than be considered one. If I had to choose between betraying my friend or my country, I hope I'd have the guts to betray my country. - E.M. Forster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for the word 'victimize'. As I have a limited time, I chose the word 'victimized' and read every paragraph where he used the word in an original post. This provides a reasonable sample. In not one case does he refer to himself as having been victimized. I really do not think he thinks of himself that way. He does not. Thinking of the people one stalks AS victims is something that stalkers do. Their fantasies revolve around how strongly they are affecting the people they hate. In my considered opinion, the best thing one can do when faced with an Internet stalker is to allow them to fantasize about how strongly they are affecting you (something they would do anyway), while not allow- ing anything they say to affect you at all. Drives them crazy. :-) The other thing it is important to know about stalkers is what the end point or goal of their game plan is. That is, put very simply, to get you to respond to them one-to-one so that in their diseased
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Lipstick does not remove a dick. Unless the bitch licks with a strap on? (last I read, Barry appears to still be a man, regardless the shade he glamors his lips with.) LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: If he had the lipstick on, wouldn't the roles be reversed, wrt the dog? I dunno -- Once you threw cross dressing and/or gender bending into the mix, it became weirder than a david lynch movie. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Turq, In a sexy way, I thought you were pretty smart, cute, etc. Now, it is like I caught you putting lipstick on and fucking the dog. hahaha. Ex-Patiot http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/why-the-ex-patriot-act-is-a-creepy-law/257368/ Number two: I do not live in Fairfield. Never have, never will. Number three: The Jobs or employers you mentioned. I would never apply for, and if I was hired, it would be from headhunters begging me to come and work for their clients. :) Social security will not exist by the time I get to have it. Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL Peace handsome -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for! LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. I understand now why you live in Fairfield. You would never be able to survive in the real world. In recent studies, 80% of all employers surveyed said that they perform Internet background searches on all potential employees, examining their posts on Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, etc. Many government jobs *require* that such a search be performed. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO Unlike you, I will never need to rely on American Social Security. Nor, hopefully, ever need to live in your third world bankrupt nation again. :-) BTW, the word is expatriate, not ex patriot. I have never been a patriot, and would sooner die than be considered one. If I had to choose between betraying my friend or my country, I hope I'd have the guts to betray my country. - E.M. Forster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for the word 'victimize'. As I have a limited time, I chose the word 'victimized' and read every paragraph where he used the word in an original post. This provides a reasonable sample. In not one case does he refer to himself as having been victimized. I really do not think he thinks of himself that way. He does not. Thinking of the people one stalks AS victims is something that stalkers do. Their fantasies revolve around how strongly they are affecting the people they hate. In my considered opinion, the best thing one can do when faced with an Internet stalker is to allow them to fantasize about how strongly they are affecting
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: snip So I would tend to disagree with your characterisation of Barry as feeling a victim, as being victimised. Well, of course you would. And of course he would never use the term victim to refer to himself. I could have told you that before you spent all that time painstakingly extracting quotes from the archives and carefully inserting spaces between letters. News flash: It's entirely possible to portray oneself as a victim without ever using the word victim. In this case, stalkee is a likely synonym. So is target. I doubt he *feels* victimized either, because he made up the whole story about my stalking him in the first place, way back in 2005, in an attempt to discredit me just after I joined FFL. Ironically, making up stories about their targets is one of the characteristic behaviors of stalkers. This is just one of innumerable stories Barry has made up about me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Obba, Any man able to fog a mirror would know only a city as great as Manhattan could contain a woman of your qualities; TB is still upset about getting caught mood making while he was doing PUJA, if he had any class, he'd offer to buy you a new pair of shoes: http://pinterest.com/priscill/outrageous-shoes/ “Love looks not with the eyes, but with the mind, And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.” -A Midsummer Night's Dream. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX2wybAIAHU From: obbajeeba no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 4:41:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while Lipstick does not remove a dick. Unless the bitch licks with a strap on? (last I read, Barry appears to still be a man, regardless the shade he glamors his lips with.) LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: If he had the lipstick on, wouldn't the roles be reversed, wrt the dog? I dunno -- Once you threw cross dressing and/or gender bending into the mix, it became weirder than a david lynch movie. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Turq, In a sexy way, I thought you were pretty smart, cute, etc. Now, it is like I caught you putting lipstick on and fucking the dog. hahaha. Ex-Patiot http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/why-the-ex-patriot-act-is-a-creepy-law/257368/ Number two: I do not live in Fairfield. Never have, never will. Number three: The Jobs or employers you mentioned. I would never apply for, and if I was hired, it would be from headhunters begging me to come and work for their clients. :) Social security will not exist by the time I get to have it. Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin. LOL Peace handsome -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba wrote: Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for! LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. I understand now why you live in Fairfield. You would never be able to survive in the real world. In recent studies, 80% of all employers surveyed said that they perform Internet background searches on all potential employees, examining their posts on Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, etc. Many government jobs *require* that such a search be performed. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO Unlike you, I will never need to rely on American Social Security. Nor, hopefully, ever need to live in your third world bankrupt nation again. :-) BTW, the word is expatriate, not ex patriot. I have never been a patriot, and would sooner die than be considered one. If I had to choose between betraying my friend or my country, I hope I'd have the guts to betray my country. - E.M. Forster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are far more guilty of the behavior they complain about than the folks they claim are victimizing them. I am not so sure about that. I searched for the word victim and victimized in Barry's posts to see how he applied the word to himself, and he does not seem to have used the word in reference to himself. There were some 400+ references to the word 'victim' and some 41 for
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while
Mr. Price, Oooow. Bait and hook me! Fog is my favorite color! I like the Purple, purple, purple stiletto books, size 11. Plum heels, size 11 too. Concord grape stretch suede boots, size 11. Roberto Cavalli, half boot, same size. ..and any other open toe meant to be worn airborne, please.. Would put me at six feet tall with those! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price wrote: Obba, Any man able to fog a mirror would know only a city as great as Manhattan could contain a woman of your qualities; TB is still upset about getting caught mood making while he was doing PUJA, if he had any class, he'd offer to buy you a new pair of shoes: http://pinterest.com/priscill/outrageous-shoes/ âLove looks not with the eyes, but with the mind, And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind.â -A Midsummer Night's Dream. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX2wybAIAHU From: obbajeeba To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 4:41:18 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Best article on cyberstalking I've read in quite some while Lipstick does not remove a dick. Unless the bitch licks with a strap on? (last I read, Barry appears to still be a man, regardless the shade he glamors his lips with.) LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote: If he had the lipstick on, wouldn't the roles be reversed, wrt the dog? I dunno -- Once you threw cross dressing and/or gender bending into the mix, it became weirder than a david lynch movie. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote: Turq, In a sexy way, I thought you were pretty smart, cute, etc. Now, it is like I caught you putting lipstick on and fucking the dog. hahaha. Ex-Patiot http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/05/why-the-ex-patriot-a\ ct-is-a-creepy-law/257368/ Number two: I do not live in Fairfield. Never have, never will. Number three: The Jobs  or employers you mentioned. I would never apply for, and if I was hired, it would be from headhunters begging me to come and work for their clients. :) Social security will not exist by the time I get to have it. Dear, you could send more private emails to me and we can share pictures, then you won't say nothin.  LOL Peace handsome -Obba --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote: Barry, I mean, Turq. No one cyberstalks on FFL. It is fair exchange of knowledge and ignorance. Knowledge, by which you ignore and play accusation games. Judy is not a cyberstalker. You would fall in a minor sort of that category by trying to claim any statements on this board are attempting to derail a person's cyber history, for future employer's eyes. hahaha. Pointing fingers all day long, month after month, year after year, yawn, would bore any employer. Any employer, who would base hiring on any of these posts would be someone, no one should work for!  LOL. What grant department did they earn their business dollars LOL. Any entrepreneur who develops their own company without outside governmental aid, would see right past all the bullshit. Any others, are not worthy the tax dollar wasted supporting their authority? lol. I understand now why you live in Fairfield. You would never be able to survive in the real world. In recent studies, 80% of all employers surveyed said that they perform Internet background searches on all potential employees, examining their posts on Google, Facebook, Yahoo, Twitter, etc. Many government jobs *require* that such a search be performed. Turq, one day there may be a requirement, to collect your social security, you have to be in living within the 50 US States, if you post on the internet on forums, in case we are all funding terrorists living abroad as ex patriots :) Just saying, dear. Love you. OXO Unlike you, I will never need to rely on American Social Security. Nor, hopefully, ever need to live in your third world bankrupt nation again. :-) BTW, the word is expatriate, not ex patriot. I have never been a patriot, and would sooner die than be considered one. If I had to choose between betraying my friend or my country, I hope I'd have the guts to betray my country. - E.M. Forster --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend  wrote: They can't hold their own, so they portray themselves as victims. And they bring nothing but dishonor on themselves by doing so--especially since they themselves are
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
if you are in bliss from doing TM for years why would you care? Yours is the type of attitude that has allowed Marsh-heee and his minions get away with all sorts of unpalatable behavior for nearly 60 years From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. Keep digging, MJ, soon you will have enough material to keep you in a perpetual angry froth for the next decade. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Well, I must say that this is a new low I have now discovered for the TM Movement - the fact that most of the TM teachers I ever knew really seemed to take very seriously the idea that when one is rounding, one only does the meditation, resting and watching/listening to whatever the knowledge program was about gave me a lot of emotional comfort where the TMO was concerned and was one of the last good feelings I had about the Movement I mean if nothing else the instruction was to NOT make any major decisions when rounding! Man oh man. That is the very last straw - the TMO was and is all about MONEY - I wish someone would take one of those old tapes of Marsh-hee walking around smiling and accepting flowers and set it the the music of the O'Jays For the Love of Money, and for good measure digitally replace the flowers he is receiving from his adoring TM admirers with fist fulls of hundred dollar bills. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Sal, I hope you will forgive me for asking so many questions - were you on a residence course or WPA at the time? Surely it wasn't a TTC or Governor training was it? Ask away old chap. It was a WPA to stop the war in Yugoslavia. I never made TTC, funnily enough ;-) I loved TM and wanted to live and work with the movement but got disillusioned very quickly, this incident happened within a year of me joining up. Much as I revile the Movement I can't imagine they would do any kind of sales pitch to people who are rounding!!! That's another point that annoyed me, we'd been rounding 9 hours a day, some of us for months. Talk about easy target. And the course leaders pointed out the rich dudes on the course so they could get extra smarm from the PR guy over dinner. It was all most distasteful. Wonder how people like Nabby would justify the selling of this thing under the circumstance of Henning's death? I've mentioned this here before and it rarely gets a comment, most movement people I've told understand it was wrong but can't reconcile it with what they want the movement to be I suppose. But as I say I was the only one at the time who felt strongly enough to complain, everyone else just kept the boat steady. As did I because I thought all the rounding would be good for me personally, but I got sick of it and desperately needed to do some activity and quit before the course ended.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count, new and improved!
If the new post count script that Bhairitu sent me today is compatible with the new version of PHP that I just installed on the Golden Dell Latitude D610 Post Count Laptop of Pure Knowledge, then tomorrow's post count will have a new and improved subject line featuring a shiny, sparkly day, date, and time stamp on it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley wrote: L'enfer, c'est le PHP. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Getting it to work on Alex's machine is another trick. :-D On 01/25/2013 02:20 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: I'll take that back as I found a one-liner that will do the trick for adding date and time to the subject. Awesome Uncle-ji !!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
You are like a man who loves to dig up dirt on his ex-wife so he can get in a stew about how awful she was and still is, even though the divorce took place decades ago. Makes you wonder why he was foolish enough to marry her in the first place. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: if you are in bliss from doing TM for years why would you care? Yours is the type of attitude that has allowed Marsh-heee and his minions get away with all sorts of unpalatable behavior for nearly 60 years From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. Â Keep digging, MJ, soon you will have enough material to keep you in a perpetual angry froth for the next decade. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Well, I must say that this is a new low I have now discovered for the TM Movement - the fact that most of the TM teachers I ever knew really seemed to take very seriously the idea that when one is rounding, one only does the meditation, resting and watching/listening to whatever the knowledge program was about gave me a lot of emotional comfort where the TMO was concerned and was one of the last good feelings I had about the Movement I mean if nothing else the instruction was to NOT make any major decisions when rounding! Man oh man. That is the very last straw - the TMO was and is all about MONEY - I wish someone would take one of those old tapes of Marsh-hee walking around smiling and accepting flowers and set it the the music of the O'Jays For the Love of Money, and for good measure digitally replace the flowers he is receiving from his adoring TM admirers with fist fulls of hundred dollar bills. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. ÃÂ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Sal, I hope you will forgive me for asking so many questions - were you on a residence course or WPA at the time? Surely it wasn't a TTC or Governor training was it? Ask away old chap. It was a WPA to stop the war in Yugoslavia. I never made TTC, funnily enough ;-) I loved TM and wanted to live and work with the movement but got disillusioned very quickly, this incident happened within a year of me joining up. Much as I revile the Movement I can't imagine they would do any kind of sales pitch to people who are rounding!!! That's another point that annoyed me, we'd been rounding 9 hours a day, some of us for months. Talk about easy target. And the course leaders pointed out the rich dudes on the course so they could get extra smarm from the PR guy over dinner. It was all most distasteful. Wonder how people like Nabby would justify the selling of this thing under the circumstance of Henning's death? I've mentioned this here before and it rarely gets a comment, most movement people I've told understand it was wrong but can't reconcile it with what they want the movement to be I suppose. But as I say I was the only one at the time who felt strongly enough to complain, everyone else just kept the boat steady. As did I because I thought all the rounding would be good for me personally, but I got sick of it and desperately needed to do some activity and quit before the course ended.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
So you are saying that all of us who no longer love and adore the TMO and its founder were stupid to lean TM in the beginning? That would have to mean it wasn't worth anything to begin with. Or that the TMO ruined it early on. Just to be clear, I have always said that Maha had a chance to truly change the world and really benefit people and society and he fucked it up by giving in to his ego and going for the money, power and sex. From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 11:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. You are like a man who loves to dig up dirt on his ex-wife so he can get in a stew about how awful she was and still is, even though the divorce took place decades ago. Makes you wonder why he was foolish enough to marry her in the first place. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: if you are in bliss from doing TM for years why would you care? Yours is the type of attitude that has allowed Marsh-heee and his minions get away with all sorts of unpalatable behavior for nearly 60 years From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 6:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.  Keep digging, MJ, soon you will have enough material to keep you in a perpetual angry froth for the next decade. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Well, I must say that this is a new low I have now discovered for the TM Movement - the fact that most of the TM teachers I ever knew really seemed to take very seriously the idea that when one is rounding, one only does the meditation, resting and watching/listening to whatever the knowledge program was about gave me a lot of emotional comfort where the TMO was concerned and was one of the last good feelings I had about the Movement I mean if nothing else the instruction was to NOT make any major decisions when rounding! Man oh man. That is the very last straw - the TMO was and is all about MONEY - I wish someone would take one of those old tapes of Marsh-hee walking around smiling and accepting flowers and set it the the music of the O'Jays For the Love of Money, and for good measure digitally replace the flowers he is receiving from his adoring TM admirers with fist fulls of hundred dollar bills. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Sal, I hope you will forgive me for asking so many questions - were you on a residence course or WPA at the time? Surely it wasn't a TTC or Governor training was it? Ask away old chap. It was a WPA to stop the war in Yugoslavia. I never made TTC, funnily enough ;-) I loved TM and wanted to live and work with the movement but got disillusioned very quickly, this incident happened within a year of me joining up. Much as I revile the Movement I can't imagine they would do any kind of sales pitch to people who are rounding!!! That's another point that annoyed me, we'd been rounding 9 hours a day, some of us for months. Talk about easy target. And the course leaders pointed out the rich dudes on the course so they could get extra smarm from the PR guy over dinner. It was all most distasteful. Wonder how people like Nabby would justify the selling of this thing under the circumstance of Henning's death? I've mentioned this here before and it rarely gets a comment, most movement people I've told understand it was wrong but can't reconcile it with what they want the movement to be I suppose. But as I say I was the only one at the time who felt strongly enough to complain, everyone else just kept the boat steady. As did I because I thought all the rounding would be good for me personally, but I got sick of it and desperately needed to do some activity and quit before the course ended.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again.....
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: OK so a couple more questions so I can get the full flavor of this deal - what did you mean by they were selling lots - like in having a home there or something like that? I mean that $50,000 was the minimum amount they would accept for a share. Also I assume the WPA you were on was in England - does anyone know if they had WPAs to end the Yugoslavian war here in the United States? It was in Croatia, close to the action you see. I remember they encouraged everyone into domes and centres to maximise the effect worldwide. This was also when Marshy tripled the price after telling teachers we need to teach as many as we can to change the world. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 3:50 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Co$ in the news again. Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: Sal, I hope you will forgive me for asking so many questions - were you on a residence course or WPA at the time? Surely it wasn't a TTC or Governor training was it? Ask away old chap. It was a WPA to stop the war in Yugoslavia. I never made TTC, funnily enough ;-) I loved TM and wanted to live and work with the movement but got disillusioned very quickly, this incident happened within a year of me joining up. Much as I revile the Movement I can't imagine they would do any kind of sales pitch to people who are rounding!!! That's another point that annoyed me, we'd been rounding 9 hours a day, some of us for months. Talk about easy target. And the course leaders pointed out the rich dudes on the course so they could get extra smarm from the PR guy over dinner. It was all most distasteful. Wonder how people like Nabby would justify the selling of this thing under the circumstance of Henning's death? I've mentioned this here before and it rarely gets a comment, most movement people I've told understand it was wrong but can't reconcile it with what they want the movement to be I suppose. But as I say I was the only one at the time who felt strongly enough to complain, everyone else just kept the boat steady. As did I because I thought all the rounding would be good for me personally, but I got sick of it and desperately needed to do some activity and quit before the course ended.
