Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Correction: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR SOMETHING (strike the TO ME) part. Ha ha Share - see, it isn't all about me either - I was typing too fast. Remember, I brought all of this tedium up again to make a point. I really am over it all. This is FFL after all - I don't have time to hold grudges in real life and on the internet. I am all about lessons learned though. Smiley face. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Dear Share, against my better judgment and because I am still here, I will reply, but this will be it for now. I really do have to go - but I'll be back to check in, not sure when, but I will. Thank you for your effort to communicate with me. Of course you didn't understand my burn comment - I didn't explain it at the time - that's why I explained it later. No need to worry - you couldn't possibly have hurt my feelings by offering me the suggestions of aloe vera and ghee. Yes, I'm sure there is a country song about taxes - that's cute Share and I mean it. My comment on you never *owe me* was said for two reasons that I didn't explain - it didn't have anything to do with what *you* think. If you will remember, *I* said, back during the timeframe where you were insisting that I was part of your fantasized wts cult (last year, although we let all that go) that *you owed me* an apology. Suffice it to say, I retract my request to you from way back because I am fully over it. Now, re: YOUR STATEMENT - I make an apology when I think I might have hurt someone's feelings. IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU SHARE, IT'S ABOUT THE OTHER PERSON INFORMING YOU THAT YOU HAVE HURT THEIR FEELINGS - STOP GUESSING IN THE DARK! SHARE, YOU HURT MY FEELINGS LAST YEAR WHEN YOU ACCUSED ME OF BEING IN A CULT. REMEMBER THAT? I was most upset last year that you were dismissing me as an individual by placing me in the inner circle of a cult with Robin as the leader. It was rife with passive aggressive slams that I can't think for myself, that I am part of a gang, that I am a follower, etc. Simply not a very nice thing to do to another human being. I stated this to you numerous times. If you had stated this to me as many times in as many ways with as much emotion behind it as I did to you, I assure you, Share, I would have apologized to you - I would have seen that it hurt you - whether your hurt feelings accurately reflected my intentions or not (do you understand this last phrase?). YOU REFUSED TO APOLOGIZE TO ME, EVEN WHEN I TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER AND OVER HOW YOU HAD HURT MY FEELINGS, AND WHY, AND BEGGED YOU TO WORK IT OUT WITH ME. ALL PUBLICLY SHARE. I SPARED FFL NONE OF MY DRAMA OR PROCESS WITH YOU. REMEMBER THAT? IT'S ALL ARCHIVED SOMEWHERE. I'M OVER IT, I ASSURE YOU. YOU HURT ROBIN'S FEELINGS (I'M GUESSING) WHEN YOU ACCUSED HIM OF PSYCHOLOGICAL RAPE - HOW COULD YOU NOT HAVE - THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY HURTFUL ACCUSATION. How in the world do you make amends for a situation you haven't apologized for? You've let it go, but you never addressed the key issue or your behavior or what you said. How are you going to make amends to Robin - send him a homemade pie? What would amends look like for you through the internet or email? Amends are about changing behavior Share. Why would you set a rule that you will only talk offline to spare FFL. Are you kidding me? Spare FFL? From what? Sounds like a bullshit excuse to me - again, you are deflecting, trying to present as being a loving person committed to reconciliation, but your words and behavior bely you. Believe you me, if you even had the tiniest thought that Robin could do such a thing to you, you had best put your amends down right here in public where you have witnesses - sounds pretty scary to me to go offline in such a case. And then what, call for privacy, after it inevitably makes its way back here in some form, and then refuse again to take any accountability for how the situation went down? Double bullshit Share. (Blame Curtis for the use of that term - gentle, accepting man that he is). ARE YOU LISTENING? I realize I am giving you feedback you don't agree with, but it is another way of looking at it, if you remain open-minded. I am making no assumption about how you feel about me or my posts at this time. THE REASON I SAID THAT *I DIDN'T DISLIKE YOU* WAS BECAUSE CURTIS REPLIED TO THE POST OF MY GYPSY LAMENT WHICH WAS POSTED BECAUSE I TOOK OFFENSE AT YOUR HITLER LOVE NOTES AND HE FIGURED I POSTED IT BECAUSE HE GETS THAT I DON'T LIKE YOU. THIS IS AN INACCURATE STATEMENT, WHICH I WAS CORRECTING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR SOMETHING TO ME, APOLOGIZE FOR BEING FULLY INSENSITIVE TO THE SUFFERING OF THE WWII CASUALTIES AND
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
You are really getting desperate Steve, begging others to agree with your crap? Perhaps this may shed light on your behavior, read the funny captions - http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/ On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: ** Just chillin here. Emily, do you mean to tell me that you find offense with a well crafted insult as Curtis has done below, but you give a pass to the garbage Ravi spews? I call that quadruple bullshit. My God, does the hypocrisy know no end here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote: O.K. Â I'm back for the moment - I'm so unreliable - but I can't help myself. Â Curtis, you have outdone yourself, or maybe the word is undone yourself with your posts of today/yesterday. Â Magic Carpet Ride (Live) Â - You don't know what we can see. Enjoy. Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkP5gTX6Hc From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Â Any chance we can claim just one of the OC or D? If so, I would like to place dibs on obsessive because that is how I pursue all my interests (although I prefer passionate to describe my focus). That would allow Judy to claim compulsive which sounds about right for where she is on the spectrum. Of course no one should deny that the winner of disorder should rightfully be Robin. Even Robin might cop to that. Or he would let loose a word flood denial of it that would just prove the point definitely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 04/09/2013 07:25 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Like Judy, the guy is obsessed and it's fucking weird to watch... I also can't imagine still being impressed with Robins empty cult... Bhairitu: Yeah, I can't believe the adolescent hoo-ha gets the patients in the Funny Farm Lounge going. Guess we need to up their meds. ;-) Or, lower yours - there's hardly anything to read here in the first place, so anyone who posts something here is doing us a service. So, I'd like to say thanks to all the FFL informants. With MMY gone, the only comings and goings we can keep up with are a few of the locals and a couple of expats. Go figure. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to - you should understand this, living out in the back of beyond on the road to Erewhon. LoL! So you find petty adolescent squabbling of OCD types interesting? You must have a lot of fun on teen sites. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:58 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: ** I think you meant: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Complaints have been flooding (different from the trending word word flood) in from my lurker fan base - I need to clarify some of the terms before I lose 10% of my fans Kapati = deceitful Shishya = Disciple Bhakta = Devotee *Cuckoo=Ravi* Steve - three funny coincidences happened today. For the last two days I am singing a song with this line -The cuckoo starts singing in the garden and I start thinking of my beloved during the rain-filled night - so I must have chanted cuckoo at least a hundred times - Koyal - Cuckoo in Hindi. I was thinking of how I could compare Curtis to Mahishasura the buffalo-demon and then he makes a post on all turban and no water buffalo. I am headed out to the gym - I compare His Holiness to Jesus Christ, head out of the door to be accosted by two kids - missionaries from LSD. Very interesting huh Steve baby? Love ya all. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...wrote: On Apr 8, 2013, at 2:43 PM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wrong. Krishna is the real kapati - But Rakshasaas are also kapati. What's the difference dear LG Shishyaa? God I fucked up, even Krishna fucks up LOL. Anyway, once again what's the difference Bhakta? Raviji, as one deals, He'll also...He reciprocates. That is Krsna. Awesome, yes Krishna meets love with love and humility and deception with deception and arrogance. Dear LG - You have been awarded the Best Bonafide Bhakta of the Kali Yuga by the Kaliyuga Kapati Krishna - Yaay !!! Love you LG XOXO.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:24 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:58 AM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com wrote: I think you meant: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: Complaints have been flooding (different from the trending word word flood) in from my lurker fan base - I need to clarify some of the terms before I lose 10% of my fans Kapati = deceitful Shishya = Disciple Bhakta = Devotee Cuckoo=Ravi Steve - three funny coincidences happened today. For the last two days I am singing a song with this line -The cuckoo starts singing in the garden and I start thinking of my beloved during the rain-filled night - so I must have chanted cuckoo at least a hundred times - Koyal - Cuckoo in Hindi. I was thinking of how I could compare Curtis to Mahishasura the buffalo-demon and then he makes a post on all turban and no water buffalo. I am headed out to the gym - I compare His Holiness to Jesus Christ, head out of the door to be accosted by two kids - missionaries from LSD. Very interesting huh Steve baby? Damn I meant missionaries from LDS, so to continue I had real fun few minutes with those innocent kids. I tried to playfully back away from them but then approached them. Told them I wasn't religious, didn't really believe in God as an entity, poor kids they were nervous - at least made them comfortable and politely, playfully, nicely turned them down. But one of the kids wanted me to keep their card, so I have a card from JC in my car :-). Love ya all. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...wrote: On Apr 8, 2013, at 2:43 PM, laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Wrong. Krishna is the real kapati - But Rakshasaas are also kapati. What's the difference dear LG Shishyaa? God I fucked up, even Krishna fucks up LOL. Anyway, once again what's the difference Bhakta? Raviji, as one deals, He'll also...He reciprocates. That is Krsna. Awesome, yes Krishna meets love with love and humility and deception with deception and arrogance. Dear LG - You have been awarded the Best Bonafide Bhakta of the Kali Yuga by the Kaliyuga Kapati Krishna - Yaay !!! Love you LG XOXO.
[FairfieldLife] Off-talking?
apologia = offtalking: talking oneself free of guilt?? apo = from, of, etc. logia = words, talking ROFLOL!
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@... wrote:
On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:24 AM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:58 AM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote:
I think you meant:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.ravi@ wrote:
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[FairfieldLife] A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
I freely admit to not knowing much about Russell Brand other than the fact that some here thinks he walks on water because he came out publicly as a TMer. I've never seen any of his comedy routines, and click past any mentions of him in the press. That may change in the future, because a friend sent me this article he wrote about the late, unlamented Margaret Thatcher. The guy writes like a sonofabitch, and I like his style. Although I'm pretty sure these talents are not in any way related to his practice of TM, I'll probably pay more attention to him in the future because I like snappy writers with a talent for coining witty phrases. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-brand/margaret-thatcher-our-unm_b_3046390.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Which reminds me that the Nine Days of Mother Divine begin tomorrow. Here in this FFL corner we have Team Steve, the St. Louis Lovlies: Sal Sunshine as Durga; Share as Lakshmi and Susan as Saraswati. In the other corner we have Team Ravi, the San Diego Dolls: Judy as Durga, Ann as Lakshmi and Emily as Saraswati. It is noted that the Dolls have a deeper bench with Raunchy and Obbajeeba and Carol. What can we say? Unfathomable karma! From: seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Ravi, are you crying? You sound like you are crying. Everything is fine. I still love you. Devi still loves you. All is well, my little child. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Apr 9, 2013, at 1:24 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: Is it - what do you think about attributing someone's behavior to BDSM rituals and labels from DSM? Emily shows lot of intelligence, sensitivity behind her observations not idiotic reactive garbage like yours. What were you saying now? Remember my rap from yesterday. That your brazen, callously idiotic reactive posts creating the illusion that someone like you and your posts somehow demand an equal footing? Did you read the last two posts of Emily before today? The intelligence, sensitivity she displays even for someone like Curtis? She is a strong, mature, intelligent woman but that feminine sensitivity, love, forgiveness that came through in her posts? I was impressed - something for me to emulate as a man. Contrast that with your pack leader's rabid responses to Ann and Emily. Get it? Take your time, I have a lot of understanding for your disability. On Apr 9, 2013, at 12:51 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Sort of cowardly, don't ya think, to make a vague accusation like this and then run off? Or maybe we're supposed to divine what is intended? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: O.K. Â I'm back for the moment - I'm so unreliable - but I can't help myself. Â Curtis, you have outdone yourself, or maybe the word is undone yourself with your posts of today/yesterday. Â Magic Carpet Ride (Live) Â - You don't know what we can see. Enjoy. Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkP5gTX6Hc From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Â Any chance we can claim just one of the OC or D? If so, I would like to place dibs on obsessive because that is how I pursue all my interests (although I prefer passionate to describe my focus). That would allow Judy to claim compulsive which sounds about right for where she is on the spectrum. Of course no one should deny that the winner of disorder should rightfully be Robin. Even Robin might cop to that. Or he would let loose a word flood denial of it that would just prove the point definitely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 04/09/2013 07:25 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Like Judy, the guy is obsessed and it's fucking weird to watch... I also can't imagine still being impressed with Robins empty cult... Bhairitu: Yeah, I can't believe the adolescent hoo-ha gets the patients in the Funny Farm Lounge going. Guess we need to up their meds. ;-) Or, lower yours - there's hardly anything to read here in the first place, so anyone who posts something here is doing us a service. So, I'd like to say thanks to all the FFL informants. With MMY gone, the only comings and goings we can keep up with are a few of the locals and a couple of expats. Go figure. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to - you should understand this, living out in the back of beyond on the road to Erewhon. LoL! So you find petty adolescent squabbling of OCD types interesting? You must have a lot of fun on teen sites. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
Russel Brand credits TM with helping him get out of a hardcore drug abuser lifestyle. He was no doubt a brilliant comedian before TM, but he says that TM helped him survive a very rough time in his life. Youtube has a BBC special on drug abuse that he hosted. He was pretty bad off at his worst. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: I freely admit to not knowing much about Russell Brand other than the fact that some here thinks he walks on water because he came out publicly as a TMer. I've never seen any of his comedy routines, and click past any mentions of him in the press. That may change in the future, because a friend sent me this article he wrote about the late, unlamented Margaret Thatcher. The guy writes like a sonofabitch, and I like his style. Although I'm pretty sure these talents are not in any way related to his practice of TM, I'll probably pay more attention to him in the future because I like snappy writers with a talent for coining witty phrases. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-brand/margaret-thatcher-our-unm_b_3046390.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment
[FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE)
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Perhaps before you completely disappear into the fog of all the dramatic but unspecified umbridge floating around here, you can finish what YOU started: Curtis, I don't disappear. No fog, I am transparent. What's this about 'dramatic'? You and Barry had some fun between yourselves today. You thought you might have been talking about me. You were not. In fact, you got so off on some agenda of your own I gave up trying to follow you. Tell you what. While I'm finding quotes to show your 'lamentation' and whining you find quotes of mine to show I was supporting Robin, getting uncomfortable with your exchanges or in some way interfering with whatever it was you were talking about with him for the last three days? Deal? Deja vu man: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Oh, I spent an hour this morning cutting and pasting your lamentations, Curtis, into a post which I had to leave to go do my barn chores and when I came back I couldn't find the thing. So I can start over if you like but in the meantime, show me anything I have written in the last four days that has indicated or said directly that I disapprove of your posts with Robin or where I have made any references about your posts in the last four days here. Just one teeny word or phrase will do. Me, delivering as promised: Ann: I think you should do what you want but don't then lament and cry about it as if you are some long-suffering martyr. Ann: reneging and trying to move the goal post again. Sorry Ann, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night. I get it. I was giving you a chance to explain your unfriendly interpretation of my interaction with Robin because we have had friendlier times and I didn't understand what you were putting out toward me. I've lost interest and am not going confront you about it ad nauseum Robin style. It was your choice to explain or not. Ann: What has Barry said on this subject? Not that different from what I am saying. The big difference is that he doesn't think you should bother interacting with the crazy NPD person and I think you should do what you want but don't then lament and cry about it as if you are some long-suffering martyr. Me: Here the passive aggressive nature of your post zooms forth. I would like you to show me where I have lamented and cried as if I was a long-suffering martyr. I'm sure your computer will be more cooperative this time. I don't owe you a damn thing, not after your behaviour today. First of all you definitely do not owe me an damn thing. Not an explanation for why said the things you did about me in my conversation with Robin. I was giving you a chance to explain how you have been showing up. Your choice. Secondly, what's with the unspecified your behavior umbrage machine you are laying down? Point out something specific you want me to explain, and I will tell you why I said it. I will start here since you brought it up: Annyou find quotes of mine to show I was supporting Robin, Well you let me have it, and didn't say a word about him for one. getting uncomfortable with your exchanges This is just a guess on my part. You were telling me that I needed to either have conversations with Robin but not give my opinion about how he was interacting, or stop interacting with him. But neither of them were your business, you were inserting yourself. I believe our conversations triggered you, otherwise why would you care what I say about my interactions enough to let me have it. shit or get off the pot was way over the line of casual interest in someone else's post exchanges. And your little flash back description of what it was like with Robin including your odd bravado that I wouldn't last an hour at the mic but you were able to get through three and a half years for over ten hours a day did in fact leak more information about your perspective than your more careful presentation of it does. I still stand by my , you got triggered, interpretation to understand it. You had no reason to focus hostility toward me and you actually seem a bit clueless that you had in fact focused hostility toward me. I gave you a chance to explain, you doubled down, end of story for me. Ravi seems to be able to interpret your feelings more to your satisfaction than I am. OK. or in some way interfering with whatever it was you were talking about with him for the last three days? I never claimed this. This is your invention so I have no explanation. Do you? But, guess what? I'm going to go through the posts again and find them for you just because you are too lazy to go through them and find them yourself Whoa. It was your choice of words,not mine. I have no idea why you chose them, I
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Russel Brand credits TM with helping him get out of a hardcore drug abuser lifestyle. He was no doubt a brilliant comedian before TM, but he says that TM helped him survive a very rough time in his life. Youtube has a BBC special on drug abuse that he hosted. He was pretty bad off at his worst. I can't stand him. He is one of the most spoilt and self centred human beings I have ever come across. He actually complained to the producers of a BBC quiz show he was on that he didn't get the respect he felt he deserved. He clearly isn't aware that respect has to be earned and his childish behaviour that night was pathetic. Maybe he'll mellow out as he gets older, I can't help thinking that, given his record, he's a dubious choice for a TM advert and he'll have one of his meltdowns and embarrass everyone. But maybe not, maybe it'll be the making of him. I feel sorry for him here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRgu3V6Ex_A Bit of a dupe, poor lad. But he aint the first... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I freely admit to not knowing much about Russell Brand other than the fact that some here thinks he walks on water because he came out publicly as a TMer. I've never seen any of his comedy routines, and click past any mentions of him in the press. That may change in the future, because a friend sent me this article he wrote about the late, unlamented Margaret Thatcher. The guy writes like a sonofabitch, and I like his style. Although I'm pretty sure these talents are not in any way related to his practice of TM, I'll probably pay more attention to him in the future because I like snappy writers with a talent for coining witty phrases. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-brand/margaret-thatcher-our-unm_b_3046390.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers
Thanks for this Curtis - as I said I had never heard of this before - its no wonder the TMO never talked about it - I expect those numbers are about par for the entire TMO's nearly 60 year performance. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers Hey Michael, I think it must have been 1984 or'85 when I was the DC Center Chairman. I don't remember who initiated the idea, the 300 memeber council of governors, or national, or it could have even been me. The idea was that we had initiated 10,000 people out of the Leroy Place TM center and had all the records. So we wanted to call all of them we could reach to invite them back for a checking. The motivation was idealistic and exciting and many volunteers came from the big local TM community to help in this massive undertaking. I do not remember the exact numbers, but to us at the time they were horrifying. It was less than 10% of the people we could contact who had continued the practice. And it wasn't as if they all said they hated TM, many of them said they thought it was a good thing but it just slipped out of their life somehow as a priority. And more telling, an even tinier number were willing to come back to the center for a free checking. This included both the people who had stopped, as well as the people who continued. This is the only time I know of where the movement tried this kind of follow-up on this scale. It was an eyeopener to me, then and now. Most people (as in overwhelmingly) who start TM stop TM. That is a fact. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Can you tell us about the calling 10,000 initiates thing in DC? I have not heard of this before. From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: But it works. I think it works because it creates a group hoopla about a big project and that gets people excited. It is hard to sell panaceas today, the market is flooded with them. So the celebrity and the big projects creates a new buzz that the individual offering can never do again. People are just not attracted to a simple solution to all problems. They are too jaded by seeing too much and seeing one too many dhoti's lifted...literally. But in the end for some reason the vast majority of people stop their practice of TM and it wouldn't surprise me if that is true of other meditations as well. We don't have a a coherent framework to understand what it is doing to the brain, if it is all good or not to support the practice intellectually. And experientially, for some reason, even if they are good experiences, the practice is only compelling enough to continue for a tiny fraction of the people who started the practice. I am not inclined to just say it is because TM does not work because people drop out of exercise and that is kind of undeniably good for you. We don't know the reasons people start or stop today the numbers are too tiny. But the supporting belief system and social support are both very important now as it was then. The people who continued TM bought into the intellectual perspective and hung out with other meditators at least till the habit was established. Back when I started TM, people's motivations were clearer for starting but just as mysterious for stopping. And the movement is not only NOT interested in finding out, when they caught wind of my results from calling 10,000 initiates in Washington DC , they never repeated it to my knowledge. I think that is too bad because that data would be interesting for all programs that promise self-development. We are oddly unpredictable creatures, even with regard to our own self-interest. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Because they love deceit - they learned it from their beloved Master, Marshy the Hood-winker I imagine it's more a legal thing. Because the Marshy Foundation was a charity they weren't supposed to be involved with politics so we used to have two phones on our desks, one for NLP, the other with a MF sign. You had to get it right as well, if journo's had got a whiff that a foreign religious group were trying to influence British politics it might have made a good story so they had to dredge up George Harrison for a speech instead. Can't imagine what the problem is with the DLF. Simple branding perhaps? Whatever, it's stupid for one
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Russel Brand credits TM with helping him get out of a hardcore drug abuser lifestyle. He was no doubt a brilliant comedian before TM, but he says that TM helped him survive a very rough time in his life. Youtube has a BBC special on drug abuse that he hosted. He was pretty bad off at his worst. I can't stand him. He is one of the most spoilt and self centred human beings I have ever come across. He actually complained to the producers of a BBC quiz show he was on that he didn't get the respect he felt he deserved. He clearly isn't aware that respect has to be earned and his childish behaviour that night was pathetic. Maybe he'll mellow out as he gets older, I can't help thinking that, given his record, he's a dubious choice for a TM advert and he'll have one of his meltdowns and embarrass everyone. But maybe not, maybe it'll be the making of him. I feel sorry for him here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRgu3V6Ex_A Bit of a dupe, poor lad. But he aint the first... Still, his piece about Maggie Thatch was good. Maybe he should stick to writing. He could be a roving reporter at her funeral next week. She's having a full military send off apparently. Says it all really. I predict a riot, just like the old days when she was in power, except the police have much more power than they did then. They'll be arresting everyone who posts a negative opinion on social media next week, just like they always do now. Even Maggie didn't give the thought police powers of pre-emptive internment. We've got her bastard offspring Blair to thank for that. Happy days.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers
I see all the flaws in the TMO. It is not an organization that I would work for. From what I hear, though, the DLF is a better-run organization, and I support their work. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Stop looking at the TMO with stars in your eyes and you will be able to see objectively. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers  You might like to look up in a dictionary the meaning of the word objective. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: So why make the comment? The truth is it is not necessary to make any judgementsabout the Movement. All one has to do is look objectively at the TMO and one will easily see it is a corrupt, duplicitous, dogmatic, absurdly boastful, inflexible, narrow minded, unreliable, avaricious organization that, like most governments, do not serve the people it claims to serve, neither the people of the TMO, nor the people of the world. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers àMichael is determined always to believe the absolute worst regarding any aspect of TM or the TMO. He will even make baseless insinuations, such as the one below, cloaked by the ridiculously feeble it could be. There is no point in talking to him. He has no judgment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: So you think that David Lynch is doing it for the money?' L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now how shall I, with my TM-is-mainly-a-scam awareness, interpret this info? It could be that the TMO and its David Lynch schill organization has become self-less and has developed altruism and a big ol' heart. It could me that the DLF is actually charging people some money on the sly somehow and making money off the deal. It could be that the numbers the TMODLF Conglomerate is lying about the numbers being taught so they can justify the amount of money they are taking in to match the numbers of people they are claiming to teach. Ah, I knew I would stumble on the truth one day! And you can bet that no matter how many they are teaching down there, they have some scheme in mind to make them lifelong customers. From: sparaig LEnglish5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers ÃâàVery true. However, most of the kids in South America and Mexico who are learning the TM-Sidhis are learning for free as well, and the TM organization would be very foolish to think that the average poverty-stricken Indian in Mexico, or the average former sex-slave in a Columbian orphanage, is going to contribute to the TM organization's bottom line, *ever*... Unless, of course, long-term TM and TM-Sidhis practice works as advertised. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: You are really getting desperate Steve, begging others to agree with your crap? Perhaps this may shed light on your behavior, read the funny captions - http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/ This is spectacularly apropos, therefore extremely funny. Humour is very much about the timing, as we all know. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: ** Just chillin here. Emily, do you mean to tell me that you find offense with a well crafted insult as Curtis has done below, but you give a pass to the garbage Ravi spews? I call that quadruple bullshit. My God, does the hypocrisy know no end here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: O.K. Ã I'm back for the moment - I'm so unreliable - but I can't help myself. Ã Curtis, you have outdone yourself, or maybe the word is undone yourself with your posts of today/yesterday. Ã Magic Carpet Ride (Live) Ã - You don't know what we can see. Enjoy. Ã http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkP5gTX6Hc From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Ã Any chance we can claim just one of the OC or D? If so, I would like to place dibs on obsessive because that is how I pursue all my interests (although I prefer passionate to describe my focus). That would allow Judy to claim compulsive which sounds about right for where she is on the spectrum. Of course no one should deny that the winner of disorder should rightfully be Robin. Even Robin might cop to that. Or he would let loose a word flood denial of it that would just prove the point definitely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 04/09/2013 07:25 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Like Judy, the guy is obsessed and it's fucking weird to watch... I also can't imagine still being impressed with Robins empty cult... Bhairitu: Yeah, I can't believe the adolescent hoo-ha gets the patients in the Funny Farm Lounge going. Guess we need to up their meds. ;-) Or, lower yours - there's hardly anything to read here in the first place, so anyone who posts something here is doing us a service. So, I'd like to say thanks to all the FFL informants. With MMY gone, the only comings and goings we can keep up with are a few of the locals and a couple of expats. Go figure. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to - you should understand this, living out in the back of beyond on the road to Erewhon. LoL! So you find petty adolescent squabbling of OCD types interesting? You must have a lot of fun on teen sites. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Perhaps before you completely disappear into the fog of all the dramatic but unspecified umbridge floating around here, you can finish what YOU started: Curtis, I don't disappear. No fog, I am transparent. What's this about 'dramatic'? You and Barry had some fun between yourselves today. You thought you might have been talking about me. You were not. In fact, you got so off on some agenda of your own I gave up trying to follow you. Tell you what. While I'm finding quotes to show your 'lamentation' and whining you find quotes of mine to show I was supporting Robin, getting uncomfortable with your exchanges or in some way interfering with whatever it was you were talking about with him for the last three days? Deal? Deja vu man: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Oh, I spent an hour this morning cutting and pasting your lamentations, Curtis, into a post which I had to leave to go do my barn chores and when I came back I couldn't find the thing. So I can start over if you like but in the meantime, show me anything I have written in the last four days that has indicated or said directly that I disapprove of your posts with Robin or where I have made any references about your posts in the last four days here. Just one teeny word or phrase will do. Me, delivering as promised: Ann: I think you should do what you want but don't then lament and cry about it as if you are some long-suffering martyr. Ann: reneging and trying to move the goal post again. Sorry Ann, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night. I get it. I was giving you a chance to explain your unfriendly interpretation of my interaction with Robin because we have had friendlier times and I didn't understand what you were putting out toward me. I've lost interest and am not going confront you about it ad nauseum Robin style. It was your choice to explain or not. Ann: What has Barry said on this subject? Not that different from what I am saying. The big difference is that he doesn't think you should bother interacting with the crazy NPD person and I think you should do what you want but don't then lament and cry about it as if you are some long-suffering martyr. Me: Here the passive aggressive nature of your post zooms forth. I would like you to show me where I have lamented and cried as if I was a long-suffering martyr. I'm sure your computer will be more cooperative this time. I don't owe you a damn thing, not after your behaviour today. First of all you definitely do not owe me an damn thing. Not an explanation for why said the things you did about me in my conversation with Robin. I was giving you a chance to explain how you have been showing up. Your choice. Secondly, what's with the unspecified your behavior umbrage machine you are laying down? Point out something specific you want me to explain, and I will tell you why I said it. I will start here since you brought it up: Annyou find quotes of mine to show I was supporting Robin, Well you let me have it, and didn't say a word about him for one. getting uncomfortable with your exchanges This is just a guess on my part. You were telling me that I needed to either have conversations with Robin but not give my opinion about how he was interacting, or stop interacting with him. But neither of them were your business, you were inserting yourself. I believe our conversations triggered you, otherwise why would you care what I say about my interactions enough to let me have it. shit or get off the pot was way over the line of casual interest in someone else's post exchanges. And your little flash back description of what it was like with Robin including your odd bravado that I wouldn't last an hour at the mic but you were able to get through three and a half years for over ten hours a day did in fact leak more information about your perspective than your more careful presentation of it does. I still stand by my , you got triggered, interpretation to understand it. You had no reason to focus hostility toward me and you actually seem a bit clueless that you had in fact focused hostility toward me. I gave you a chance to explain, you doubled down, end of story for me. Ravi seems to be able to interpret your feelings more to your satisfaction than I am. OK. or in some way interfering with whatever it was you were talking about with him for the last three days? I never claimed this. This is your invention so I have no explanation. Do you? But, guess what? I'm going to go through the
[FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Perhaps before you completely disappear into the fog of all the dramatic but unspecified umbridge floating around here, you can finish what YOU started: Curtis, I don't disappear. No fog, I am transparent. What's this about 'dramatic'? You and Barry had some fun between yourselves today. You thought you might have been talking about me. You were not. In fact, you got so off on some agenda of your own I gave up trying to follow you. Tell you what. While I'm finding quotes to show your 'lamentation' and whining you find quotes of mine to show I was supporting Robin, getting uncomfortable with your exchanges or in some way interfering with whatever it was you were talking about with him for the last three days? Deal? Deja vu man: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Oh, I spent an hour this morning cutting and pasting your lamentations, Curtis, into a post which I had to leave to go do my barn chores and when I came back I couldn't find the thing. So I can start over if you like but in the meantime, show me anything I have written in the last four days that has indicated or said directly that I disapprove of your posts with Robin or where I have made any references about your posts in the last four days here. Just one teeny word or phrase will do. Me, delivering as promised: Ann: I think you should do what you want but don't then lament and cry about it as if you are some long-suffering martyr. Ann: reneging and trying to move the goal post again. Sorry Ann, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night. I get it. I was giving you a chance to explain your unfriendly interpretation of my interaction with Robin because we have had friendlier times and I didn't understand what you were putting out toward me. I've lost interest and am not going confront you about it ad nauseum Robin style. It was your choice to explain or not. Ann: What has Barry said on this subject? Not that different from what I am saying. The big difference is that he doesn't think you should bother interacting with the crazy NPD person and I think you should do what you want but don't then lament and cry about it as if you are some long-suffering martyr. Me: Here the passive aggressive nature of your post zooms forth. I would like you to show me where I have lamented and cried as if I was a long-suffering martyr. I'm sure your computer will be more cooperative this time. I don't owe you a damn thing, not after your behaviour today. First of all you definitely do not owe me an damn thing. Not an explanation for why said the things you did about me in my conversation with Robin. I was giving you a chance to explain how you have been showing up. Your choice. Secondly, what's with the unspecified your behavior umbrage machine you are laying down? Point out something specific you want me to explain, and I will tell you why I said it. I will start here since you brought it up: Annyou find quotes of mine to show I was supporting Robin, Well you let me have it, and didn't say a word about him for one. getting uncomfortable with your exchanges This is just a guess on my part. You were telling me that I needed to either have conversations with Robin but not give my opinion about how he was interacting, or stop interacting with him. But neither of them were your business, you were inserting yourself. I believe our conversations triggered you, otherwise why would you care what I say about my interactions enough to let me have it. shit or get off the pot was way over the line of casual interest in someone else's post exchanges. And your little flash back description of what it was like with Robin including your odd bravado that I wouldn't last an hour at the mic but you were able to get through three and a half years for over ten hours a day did in fact leak more information about your perspective than your more careful presentation of it does. I still stand by my , you got triggered, interpretation to understand it. You had no reason to focus hostility toward me and you actually seem a bit clueless that you had in fact focused hostility toward me. I gave you a chance to explain, you doubled down, end of story for me. Ravi seems to be able to interpret your feelings more to your satisfaction than I am. OK. or in some way interfering with whatever it was you were talking about with him for the last three days? I never claimed this. This is your invention so I have no explanation. Do you? But, guess what? I'm going to go through the
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Thanks Emily, I read this a couple of times. I hope all goes well and you return soon. If you ever want to talk about anything from last year, well anything FFL that is, I'm willing to do so offline. Share From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Correction: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR SOMETHING (strike the TO ME) part. Ha ha Share - see, it isn't all about me either - I was typing too fast. Remember, I brought all of this tedium up again to make a point. I really am over it all. This is FFL after all - I don't have time to hold grudges in real life and on the internet. I am all about lessons learned though. Smiley face. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Dear Share, against my better judgment and because I am still here, I will reply, but this will be it for now. I really do have to go - but I'll be back to check in, not sure when, but I will. Thank you for your effort to communicate with me. Of course you didn't understand my burn comment - I didn't explain it at the time - that's why I explained it later. No need to worry - you couldn't possibly have hurt my feelings by offering me the suggestions of aloe vera and ghee. Yes, I'm sure there is a country song about taxes - that's cute Share and I mean it. My comment on you never *owe me* was said for two reasons that I didn't explain - it didn't have anything to do with what *you* think. If you will remember, *I* said, back during the timeframe where you were insisting that I was part of your fantasized wts cult (last year, although we let all that go) that *you owed me* an apology. Suffice it to say, I retract my request to you from way back because I am fully over it. Now, re: YOUR STATEMENT - I make an apology when I think I might have hurt someone's feelings. IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU SHARE, IT'S ABOUT THE OTHER PERSON INFORMING YOU THAT YOU HAVE HURT THEIR FEELINGS - STOP GUESSING IN THE DARK! SHARE, YOU HURT MY FEELINGS LAST YEAR WHEN YOU ACCUSED ME OF BEING IN A CULT. REMEMBER THAT? I was most upset last year that you were dismissing me as an individual by placing me in the inner circle of a cult with Robin as the leader. It was rife with passive aggressive slams that I can't think for myself, that I am part of a gang, that I am a follower, etc. Simply not a very nice thing to do to another human being. I stated this to you numerous times. If you had stated this to me as many times in as many ways with as much emotion behind it as I did to you, I assure you, Share, I would have apologized to you - I would have seen that it hurt you - whether your hurt feelings accurately reflected my intentions or not (do you understand this last phrase?). YOU REFUSED TO APOLOGIZE TO ME, EVEN WHEN I TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER AND OVER HOW YOU HAD HURT MY FEELINGS, AND WHY, AND BEGGED YOU TO WORK IT OUT WITH ME. ALL PUBLICLY SHARE. I SPARED FFL NONE OF MY DRAMA OR PROCESS WITH YOU. REMEMBER THAT? IT'S ALL ARCHIVED SOMEWHERE. I'M OVER IT, I ASSURE YOU. YOU HURT ROBIN'S FEELINGS (I'M GUESSING) WHEN YOU ACCUSED HIM OF PSYCHOLOGICAL RAPE - HOW COULD YOU NOT HAVE - THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY HURTFUL ACCUSATION. How in the world do you make amends for a situation you haven't apologized for? You've let it go, but you never addressed the key issue or your behavior or what you said. How are you going to make amends to Robin - send him a homemade pie? What would amends look like for you through the internet or email? Amends are about changing behavior Share. Why would you set a rule that you will only talk offline to spare FFL. Are you kidding me? Spare FFL? From what? Sounds like a bullshit excuse to me - again, you are deflecting, trying to present as being a loving person committed to reconciliation, but your words and behavior bely you. Believe you me, if you even had the tiniest thought that Robin could do such a thing to you, you had best put your amends down right here in public where you have witnesses - sounds pretty scary to me to go offline in such a case. And then what, call for privacy, after it inevitably makes its way back here in some form, and then refuse again to take any accountability for how the situation went down? Double bullshit Share. (Blame Curtis for the use of that term - gentle, accepting man that he is). ARE YOU LISTENING? I realize I am giving you feedback you don't agree with, but it is another way of looking at it, if you remain open-minded. I am making no assumption about how you
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
I actually enjoyed that interview, despite various wince-worthy remarks by John. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Russel Brand credits TM with helping him get out of a hardcore drug abuser lifestyle. He was no doubt a brilliant comedian before TM, but he says that TM helped him survive a very rough time in his life. Youtube has a BBC special on drug abuse that he hosted. He was pretty bad off at his worst. I can't stand him. He is one of the most spoilt and self centred human beings I have ever come across. He actually complained to the producers of a BBC quiz show he was on that he didn't get the respect he felt he deserved. He clearly isn't aware that respect has to be earned and his childish behaviour that night was pathetic. Maybe he'll mellow out as he gets older, I can't help thinking that, given his record, he's a dubious choice for a TM advert and he'll have one of his meltdowns and embarrass everyone. But maybe not, maybe it'll be the making of him. I feel sorry for him here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRgu3V6Ex_A Bit of a dupe, poor lad. But he aint the first... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I freely admit to not knowing much about Russell Brand other than the fact that some here thinks he walks on water because he came out publicly as a TMer. I've never seen any of his comedy routines, and click past any mentions of him in the press. That may change in the future, because a friend sent me this article he wrote about the late, unlamented Margaret Thatcher. The guy writes like a sonofabitch, and I like his style. Although I'm pretty sure these talents are not in any way related to his practice of TM, I'll probably pay more attention to him in the future because I like snappy writers with a talent for coining witty phrases. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-brand/margaret-thatcher-our-unm_b_3046390.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment
[FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE)
Brilliant! That little monkey who blew up the donkey at the end was a squirrel monkey, the kind I raised as a kid. He used to sit on my shoulder just like he did on that buff guy with no shirt and all the tats. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Perhaps before you completely disappear into the fog of all the dramatic but unspecified umbridge floating around here, you can finish what YOU started: Curtis, I don't disappear. No fog, I am transparent. What's this about 'dramatic'? You and Barry had some fun between yourselves today. You thought you might have been talking about me. You were not. In fact, you got so off on some agenda of your own I gave up trying to follow you. Tell you what. While I'm finding quotes to show your 'lamentation' and whining you find quotes of mine to show I was supporting Robin, getting uncomfortable with your exchanges or in some way interfering with whatever it was you were talking about with him for the last three days? Deal? Deja vu man: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: Oh, I spent an hour this morning cutting and pasting your lamentations, Curtis, into a post which I had to leave to go do my barn chores and when I came back I couldn't find the thing. So I can start over if you like but in the meantime, show me anything I have written in the last four days that has indicated or said directly that I disapprove of your posts with Robin or where I have made any references about your posts in the last four days here. Just one teeny word or phrase will do. Me, delivering as promised: Ann: I think you should do what you want but don't then lament and cry about it as if you are some long-suffering martyr. Ann: reneging and trying to move the goal post again. Sorry Ann, I was born at night, but it wasn't last night. I get it. I was giving you a chance to explain your unfriendly interpretation of my interaction with Robin because we have had friendlier times and I didn't understand what you were putting out toward me. I've lost interest and am not going confront you about it ad nauseum Robin style. It was your choice to explain or not. Ann: What has Barry said on this subject? Not that different from what I am saying. The big difference is that he doesn't think you should bother interacting with the crazy NPD person and I think you should do what you want but don't then lament and cry about it as if you are some long-suffering martyr. Me: Here the passive aggressive nature of your post zooms forth. I would like you to show me where I have lamented and cried as if I was a long-suffering martyr. I'm sure your computer will be more cooperative this time. I don't owe you a damn thing, not after your behaviour today. First of all you definitely do not owe me an damn thing. Not an explanation for why said the things you did about me in my conversation with Robin. I was giving you a chance to explain how you have been showing up. Your choice. Secondly, what's with the unspecified your behavior umbrage machine you are laying down? Point out something specific you want me to explain, and I will tell you why I said it. I will start here since you brought it up: Annyou find quotes of mine to show I was supporting Robin, Well you let me have it, and didn't say a word about him for one. getting uncomfortable with your exchanges This is just a guess on my part. You were telling me that I needed to either have conversations with Robin but not give my opinion about how he was interacting, or stop interacting with him. But neither of them were your business, you were inserting yourself. I believe our conversations triggered you, otherwise why would you care what I say about my interactions enough to let me have it. shit or get off the pot was way over the line of casual interest in someone else's post exchanges. And your little flash back description of what it was like with Robin including your odd bravado that I wouldn't last an hour at the mic but you were able to get through three and a half years for over ten hours a day did in fact leak more information about your perspective than your more careful presentation of it does. I still stand by my , you got triggered, interpretation to understand it. You had no reason to focus hostility toward me and you actually seem a bit clueless that you had in fact focused hostility toward me. I gave you a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers
feste the only thing I've known you to have stars in your eyes about is good literature and certain type of woman, maybe good food too, nature's beauty and good music, good theater. I've never known you to be starry eyed about the TMO. But then I know you in person and MJ doesn't so maybe that's why. From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers I see all the flaws in the TMO. It is not an organization that I would work for. From what I hear, though, the DLF is a better-run organization, and I support their work. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Stop looking at the TMO with stars in your eyes and you will be able to see objectively. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers  You might like to look up in a dictionary the meaning of the word objective. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: So why make the comment? The truth is it is not necessary to make any judgementsabout the Movement. All one has to do is look objectively at the TMO and one will easily see it is a corrupt, duplicitous, dogmatic, absurdly boastful, inflexible, narrow minded, unreliable, avaricious organization that, like most governments, do not serve the people it claims to serve, neither the people of the TMO, nor the people of the world. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers  Michael is determined always to believe the absolute worst regarding any aspect of TM or the TMO. He will even make baseless insinuations, such as the one below, cloaked by the ridiculously feeble it could be. There is no point in talking to him. He has no judgment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: So you think that David Lynch is doing it for the money?' L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now how shall I, with my TM-is-mainly-a-scam awareness, interpret this info? It could be that the TMO and its David Lynch schill organization has become self-less and has developed altruism and a big ol' heart. It could me that the DLF is actually charging people some money on the sly somehow and making money off the deal. It could be that the numbers the TMODLF Conglomerate is lying about the numbers being taught so they can justify the amount of money they are taking in to match the numbers of people they are claiming to teach. Ah, I knew I would stumble on the truth one day! And you can bet that no matter how many they are teaching down there, they have some scheme in mind to make them lifelong customers. From: sparaig LEnglish5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers  Very true. However, most of the kids in South America and Mexico who are learning the TM-Sidhis are learning for free as well, and the TM organization would be very foolish to think that the average poverty-stricken Indian in Mexico, or the average former sex-slave in a Columbian orphanage, is going to contribute to the TM organization's bottom line, *ever*... Unless, of course, long-term TM and TM-Sidhis practice works as advertised. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: I actually enjoyed that interview, despite various wince-worthy remarks by John. Not to mention the wince-worthy physics. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Russel Brand credits TM with helping him get out of a hardcore drug abuser lifestyle. He was no doubt a brilliant comedian before TM, but he says that TM helped him survive a very rough time in his life. Youtube has a BBC special on drug abuse that he hosted. He was pretty bad off at his worst. I can't stand him. He is one of the most spoilt and self centred human beings I have ever come across. He actually complained to the producers of a BBC quiz show he was on that he didn't get the respect he felt he deserved. He clearly isn't aware that respect has to be earned and his childish behaviour that night was pathetic. Maybe he'll mellow out as he gets older, I can't help thinking that, given his record, he's a dubious choice for a TM advert and he'll have one of his meltdowns and embarrass everyone. But maybe not, maybe it'll be the making of him. I feel sorry for him here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRgu3V6Ex_A Bit of a dupe, poor lad. But he aint the first... L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: I freely admit to not knowing much about Russell Brand other than the fact that some here thinks he walks on water because he came out publicly as a TMer. I've never seen any of his comedy routines, and click past any mentions of him in the press. That may change in the future, because a friend sent me this article he wrote about the late, unlamented Margaret Thatcher. The guy writes like a sonofabitch, and I like his style. Although I'm pretty sure these talents are not in any way related to his practice of TM, I'll probably pay more attention to him in the future because I like snappy writers with a talent for coining witty phrases. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russell-brand/margaret-thatcher-our-unm_b_3046390.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment
[FairfieldLife] Re: .00001% total harmonic distortion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote: The Yamaha basic amplifier puts out 250 watts per channel in stereo with less than .1% total harmonic distortion. With that kind of power I need some really robust speakers, so I moved up from Advents to floor-standing JBLs. What is interesting about this is that not many people can distinguish less than 1% total harmonic distortion on pure tones, let alone music, and few speaker systems can get as low a 0.5% total harmonic distortion; most have higher distortion, with car stereos running as high as 5%. Thus an amplifier with even 0.1% harmonic distortion typically could not be heard as different from any amplifier with less distortion through any speaker system, all else being equal (frequency response, level etc.).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun: Italian Hugs!
Mike, are you kidding around? Can bird flu be passed on via a hug? Last but not least, do birds hug each other?! From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun: Italian Hugs! But.. but... what if they had bird flu? From: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fun: Italian Hugs! Heart-warming 4-minute video! Click below to watch this video made in Sondrio , Italy . If you're not smiling by the end, tell me where to send the flowers. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hN8CKwdosjE Enjoy! Music is marvelous!
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
Which parts of the physics were wince-worthy? Claiming that the Unified Field fulfills Einstein's dream? It certainly does, valid or not. And of course, no scientific theory can ever be said to be completely validated nor completely discredited anyway. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: I actually enjoyed that interview, despite various wince-worthy remarks by John. Not to mention the wince-worthy physics.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Ha ha ha ha. Good one, Share. You have missed or purposely chosen to miss the points of my post entirely - both the objective and subjective aspects of it. I worry about your ability to comprehend - I am not a mean person, Share. I think it's that you aren't listening. What scares you about having conversations on FFL about FFL? Are you scared? I'm headed to the beach after I finish my taxes and then have a couple more out-of-town things I have to do. P.S. I'm over it. Did that not come across? Read that at face value. Emily From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Thanks Emily, I read this a couple of times. I hope all goes well and you return soon. If you ever want to talk about anything from last year, well anything FFL that is, I'm willing to do so offline. Share From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Correction: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR SOMETHING (strike the TO ME) part. Ha ha Share - see, it isn't all about me either - I was typing too fast. Remember, I brought all of this tedium up again to make a point. I really am over it all. This is FFL after all - I don't have time to hold grudges in real life and on the internet. I am all about lessons learned though. Smiley face. From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Dear Share, against my better judgment and because I am still here, I will reply, but this will be it for now. I really do have to go - but I'll be back to check in, not sure when, but I will. Thank you for your effort to communicate with me. Of course you didn't understand my burn comment - I didn't explain it at the time - that's why I explained it later. No need to worry - you couldn't possibly have hurt my feelings by offering me the suggestions of aloe vera and ghee. Yes, I'm sure there is a country song about taxes - that's cute Share and I mean it. My comment on you never *owe me* was said for two reasons that I didn't explain - it didn't have anything to do with what *you* think. If you will remember, *I* said, back during the timeframe where you were insisting that I was part of your fantasized wts cult (last year, although we let all that go) that *you owed me* an apology. Suffice it to say, I retract my request to you from way back because I am fully over it. Now, re: YOUR STATEMENT - I make an apology when I think I might have hurt someone's feelings. IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU SHARE, IT'S ABOUT THE OTHER PERSON INFORMING YOU THAT YOU HAVE HURT THEIR FEELINGS - STOP GUESSING IN THE DARK! SHARE, YOU HURT MY FEELINGS LAST YEAR WHEN YOU ACCUSED ME OF BEING IN A CULT. REMEMBER THAT? I was most upset last year that you were dismissing me as an individual by placing me in the inner circle of a cult with Robin as the leader. It was rife with passive aggressive slams that I can't think for myself, that I am part of a gang, that I am a follower, etc. Simply not a very nice thing to do to another human being. I stated this to you numerous times. If you had stated this to me as many times in as many ways with as much emotion behind it as I did to you, I assure you, Share, I would have apologized to you - I would have seen that it hurt you - whether your hurt feelings accurately reflected my intentions or not (do you understand this last phrase?). YOU REFUSED TO APOLOGIZE TO ME, EVEN WHEN I TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER AND OVER HOW YOU HAD HURT MY FEELINGS, AND WHY, AND BEGGED YOU TO WORK IT OUT WITH ME. ALL PUBLICLY SHARE. I SPARED FFL NONE OF MY DRAMA OR PROCESS WITH YOU. REMEMBER THAT? IT'S ALL ARCHIVED SOMEWHERE. I'M OVER IT, I ASSURE YOU. YOU HURT ROBIN'S FEELINGS (I'M GUESSING) WHEN YOU ACCUSED HIM OF PSYCHOLOGICAL RAPE - HOW COULD YOU NOT HAVE - THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY HURTFUL ACCUSATION. How in the world do you make amends for a situation you haven't apologized for? You've let it go, but you never addressed the key issue or your behavior or what you said. How are you going to make amends to Robin - send him a homemade pie? What would amends look like for you through the internet or email? Amends are about changing behavior Share. Why would you set a rule that you will only talk offline to spare FFL. Are you kidding me? Spare FFL? From what? Sounds like a bullshit excuse to me - again, you are deflecting,
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!
Lefty Driesel! Now that's a name from the distant past. Wasn't he a bit flamboyant? Actually I remember better the name Tom Nugent, UM football coach because his daughter went to the same high school I did. Carol, it sounds like your son had a great opportunity with that David Thompson camp. Do you remember if he enjoyed it? Does he still play basketball? I don't (-: From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 3:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight! So you were a Terrapin, huh, with good ol' Lefty Driesell? I was a Tarheel during the Dean Smith era and when games were played in Carmichael Auditorium. We'd line up all night for tickets to a game. NC State had Thompson, Burleson, and Towe; we had McAdoo, Kupchak, Waddell, and Hoffman; and you guys had Davis, Lucas, and Boyle. What a time that was for ACC basketball! Yes, last night's game was exciting and everything a final should be. Very enjoyable but I stayed up way past my bedtime! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Oh God, laughinggull now I feel nostalgic. And old! I remember 40 years ago when I was married and attending Univ of Maryland, we'd watch ACC basketball which I loved. One of my favorite players was David Thompson who played either for UNC or NC State. The way he could float up to the rim of the basket! Poetry in motion IMO. John correctly predicted Louisville as the winner but from the score I'd say it was an cliff hanger pretty much all the way through. From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 5:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] NCAA Men's Basketball Championship Tonight!  Anyone watching???
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Which parts of the physics were wince-worthy? Claiming that the Unified Field fulfills Einstein's dream? It certainly does, valid or not. Sigh. Claiming that you've found the unified field is a joke. Claiming that it is consciousness is a weird joke. Claiming you are a world renowned physicist and have finished Einstein's work is a dangerous joke. John Hagelin should leave the jokes to Russell. At least the average punter knows when *he's* having us on. And of course, no scientific theory can ever be said to be completely validated nor completely discredited anyway. Which means we have to accept every possibility as true I suppose, especially if it sells a few yagyas. These are Hagelin's *beliefs* not a scientific consensus. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: I actually enjoyed that interview, despite various wince-worthy remarks by John. Not to mention the wince-worthy physics.
[FairfieldLife] YIFU'S Eco Femme
[http://24.media.tumblr.com/49ee515962cd6a80fef777083f33cb04/tumblr_mk8j\ 78WbWh1qex3fbo4_400.png] giving you your bird back, Yi Fu--remember? Alpha Beauties is a series of 45 retouched paintings from the history of western art, which in their period represented the female beauty canons, each artwork has been retouched and updated according to nowadays beauty standards. http://nazareno.co.uk/beauties/?page_id=2 http://nazareno.co.uk/beauties/?page_id=2 But turquoiseB may enjoy and may investigates the deforming power of photo-retouching, this work of a contemporary photo-retoucher- artist Nazareno Crea, too Are these beauties of the information society, in which those who are able to manipulate images is given a power to be reckoned with a only personal research perception and the ways of seeing? Using images which belong to the collective imagination, like the Mona Lisa by Leonardo, and other paintings representing female figures that have challenged and provoked the aesthetic of their age- to change and even distort them, but with Photoshop- techniques that nowadays are being operated in fashion photography, advertising and periodic publishing. Just reflecting and essentially questioning the phenomenons and obsessions of our contemporary society. Another Italian artist, Anna Utopia [;)] Giordano, seems to have the same idea and intention to illustrate changing perceptions of feminine allure. http://designcollector.net/size-zero-botticellis-anna-utopia-giordano/ http://designcollector.net/size-zero-botticellis-anna-utopia-giordano/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9074356/Size-zero\ -Botticellis-Anna-Utopia-Giordano-Photoshops-Venus-Renaissance-masterpie\ ces-by-Titian.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9074356/Size-zer\ o-Botticellis-Anna-Utopia-Giordano-Photoshops-Venus-Renaissance-masterpi\ eces-by-Titian.html [http://designcollector.net/files/giordano-hayez.gif?cda6c1]
[FairfieldLife] YIFU'S Eco Femme
[http://24.media.tumblr.com/49ee515962cd6a80fef777083f33cb04/tumblr_mk8j\ 78WbWh1qex3fbo4_400.png] giving you your bird back, Yi Fu--remember? Alpha Beauties is a series of 45 retouched paintings from the history of western art, which in their period represented the female beauty canons, each artwork has been retouched and updated according to nowadays beauty standards. http://nazareno.co.uk/beauties/?page_id=2 http://nazareno.co.uk/beauties/?page_id=2 But turquoiseB may enjoy and may investigates the deforming power of photo-retouching, this work of a contemporary photo-retoucher- artist Nazareno Crea, too Are these beauties of the information society, in which those who are able to manipulate images is given a power to be reckoned with a only personal research perception and the ways of seeing? Using images which belong to the collective imagination, like the Mona Lisa by Leonardo, and other paintings representing female figures that have challenged and provoked the aesthetic of their age- to change and even distort them, but with Photoshop- techniques that nowadays are being operated in fashion photography, advertising and periodic publishing. Just reflecting and essentially questioning the phenomenons and obsessions of our contemporary society. Another Italian artist, Anna Utopia [;)] Giordano, seems to have the same idea and intention to illustrate changing perceptions of feminine allure. http://designcollector.net/size-zero-botticellis-anna-utopia-giordano/ http://designcollector.net/size-zero-botticellis-anna-utopia-giordano/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9074356/Size-zero\ -Botticellis-Anna-Utopia-Giordano-Photoshops-Venus-Renaissance-masterpie\ ces-by-Titian.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9074356/Size-zer\ o-Botticellis-Anna-Utopia-Giordano-Photoshops-Venus-Renaissance-masterpi\ eces-by-Titian.html [http://designcollector.net/files/giordano-hayez.gif?cda6c1]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE)
LG, that was a very perfect FFL post. I cannot write enough ha ha's to express my appreciation. http://youtu.be/PZNo2xKswRg [snip]
[FairfieldLife] Re: .00001% total harmonic distortion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: The Yamaha basic amplifier puts out 250 watts per channel in stereo with less than .1% total harmonic distortion. With that kind of power I need some really robust speakers, so I moved up from Advents to floor-standing JBLs. What is interesting about this is that not many people can distinguish less than 1% total harmonic distortion on pure tones, let alone music, and few speaker systems can get as low a 0.5% total harmonic distortion; most have higher distortion, with car stereos running as high as 5%. Thus an amplifier with even 0.1% harmonic distortion typically could not be heard as different from any amplifier with less distortion through any speaker system, all else being equal (frequency response, level etc.). Back in the mid-80s, I got suckered by Carver's hyped specs, and the local hi-fi dealer in Fairfield did a great job of clueing me in by simply putting my hugely powerful Carver amp up against a 60 watt Adcom on the same set of speakers. Whodathunk playing loud is not the same as playing well? It was shocking how shitty the Carver amp sounded compared to the Adcom.
[FairfieldLife] Coming to Meditation
the necessity of awakening into Unity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wviYuKDlKsfeature=player_embedded http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Domes Golden Dome-ers vs. mobile homers http://skreened.com/themememachine/golden-domers-vs-mobile-homers
RE: [FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of curtisdeltablues Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 5:50 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE) Perfect timing Rick, I almost responded. Well back to ma jaw harp at the ho down. And some of those hos are looking pretty good right about now. Don't forget the moonshine, if you have enough brain cells left to remember it. Yee haw! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 4:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , authfriend authfriend@ mailto:authfriend@ wrote: Curtis has put an enormous amount of study and practice into appearing reasonable, calm and heartfelt as he spins the most egregiously preposterous tales. Some of us who have interacted with him on a regular basis over time have come to realize just how devious he is, how ruthless and calculating and malicious is the mendacity of his attacks on those who dare to challenge him. Curtis is quite remarkable in his veiled aggression, probably the most aggressive poster ever on FFL. Compared to him the Turq appears as a lost little teddy-bear. The Turq also doesn't make obvious and foolish mistakes like proclaiming I'm an artist :-) It's all that hillbilly music. It gets to you after a while.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers
Yeah, L, I agree people are complicated, or what I call rich. And trying to communicate all that richness is just about impossible online. Do you have a background in psychology or biology? As for fake stability, some teachers advocate faking it til you make it. Maybe faking it activates the appropriate neurons just as well as does not faking it. I've read that people who imagined doing weight lifting had at least the same results as those who actually did weight lifting! And they could measure the muscle neurons firing for the imaginers! I like your point about the fittest stresses. I guess whether they're material or energetic, they too want to survive. Fascinating idea. I've heard it expressed thusly: that we're all in the same boat. If one person gets up and changes their position, it rocks the boat for everybody. Maybe the trick is to move gently. From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 6:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Hey, L, in EFT Tapping Gary Craig calls this the Apex Effect. Roger Callahan on whose work EFT is based, called it the Apex Problem. One definition of the Apex Effect is forgetting to do EFT even when it has been beneficial. An explanation that makes sense to me is that people become so accustomed to or identified with a problem, that they actually feel safer having it than not having it. I'm enjoying your posts a lot, especially their readability and balanced tone and good info. That's been a traditional explanation for why people resist change for the better since, probably Freud, if not before. One variant that seems to apply to me is that I have at least some level of [fake] stability by maintaining the status quo. Another that just occurred to me is that, just as some disease organisms have evolved to influence people's behavior in a way that makes them more likely to stay sick and/or pass the disease onto other people, the most successful stress-patterns are the ones that influence my behavior so that I don't set aside the time to meditate. Survival of the fittest stresses, as it were. Another factor is the common occurrence that when one is dysfunctional, one gathers dysfunctional people around them, and if one starts to improve drastically, those people often act out by trying to tear you down because you are disturbing *their* status quo. Anyway, the bottom line is: people are complicated. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
Actually, Hagelin was pretty big back when he was still publishing. Yyou realize that the Director of Research at CERN asked him to tweak Flipped SU(5) originally, right? And consciousness being the unified field is kinda a tautology if you look at how Tononi defines phi in his Integrated Information Theory. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Which parts of the physics were wince-worthy? Claiming that the Unified Field fulfills Einstein's dream? It certainly does, valid or not. Sigh. Claiming that you've found the unified field is a joke. Claiming that it is consciousness is a weird joke. Claiming you are a world renowned physicist and have finished Einstein's work is a dangerous joke. John Hagelin should leave the jokes to Russell. At least the average punter knows when *he's* having us on. And of course, no scientific theory can ever be said to be completely validated nor completely discredited anyway. Which means we have to accept every possibility as true I suppose, especially if it sells a few yagyas. These are Hagelin's *beliefs* not a scientific consensus. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: I actually enjoyed that interview, despite various wince-worthy remarks by John. Not to mention the wince-worthy physics.
[FairfieldLife] David Lynch on transition from celluloid to digital movies
Lynch as well as Martin Scorcese, Christopher Nolan, David Fincher, James Cameron, George Lucas, Robert Rodriguez and many more famous directors and cinematographers all interviewed by Keanu Reeves in the documentary Side by Side. The film traces the transition of motion pictures from using celluloid to digital including the democratization of the medium with low cost digital DSLRs. Available on Netflix WI: http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Side_by_Side/70239473 Also some interesting comments on people watching movies on their smartphones as compared seeing it in a theater. Locally folks have been protesting the demolition of the remaining art house complex which includes a dome theater which was one of the earliest stadium theaters in the area. This was the place I called the barn because the largest side auditorium was like one. There were 5 screens there and the dome screen was even curved. The original owners built a 16 screen multiplex in a new shopping center across the freeway from the 5 screen one about 12 years ago. They then dedicated the old complex to foreign and independent films. It was very popular with the nearby retirement community. However the old shopping center it was located had two owners. The owner on the north end renovated and Kohl's went in where there had been an abandoned Montgomery Wards store. The south end owner refused to renovate even thought the theater chain wanted to do so. Now yet another sporting goods store is going in as if the area needs another one.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: Actually, Hagelin was pretty big back when he was still publishing. Yyou realize that the Director of Research at CERN asked him to tweak Flipped SU(5) originally, right? So, how does that make him world renowned? I think we apply a different value to the term. And consciousness being the unified field is kinda a tautology if you look at how Tononi defines phi in his Integrated Information Theory. To a neuroscientist the term unified field refers to the image of sense data the brain creates. Bit different to JH's intention of consciousness as the source of matter itself. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Which parts of the physics were wince-worthy? Claiming that the Unified Field fulfills Einstein's dream? It certainly does, valid or not. Sigh. Claiming that you've found the unified field is a joke. Claiming that it is consciousness is a weird joke. Claiming you are a world renowned physicist and have finished Einstein's work is a dangerous joke. John Hagelin should leave the jokes to Russell. At least the average punter knows when *he's* having us on. And of course, no scientific theory can ever be said to be completely validated nor completely discredited anyway. Which means we have to accept every possibility as true I suppose, especially if it sells a few yagyas. These are Hagelin's *beliefs* not a scientific consensus. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: I actually enjoyed that interview, despite various wince-worthy remarks by John. Not to mention the wince-worthy physics.
[FairfieldLife] Predicting the Future
These guys better watch out because they may also wind up validating astrology with their research.:-D http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/cliodynamics-peter-turchin/all/ They're looking into recurring cycles. These happen to coincide with recurring orbits of the planets. Told ya ancient astrologers were using the planets as time keepers and not as puppet masters. They did this just as they did with cycles of the sun and moon. Using planets was just as inevitable. For instance they're noticing a 50 year cycle of violence in the US. That's approximately 4 Jupiter cycles.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Predicting the Future
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: These guys better watch out because they may also wind up validating astrology with their research.:-D http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/cliodynamics-peter-turchin/all/ They're looking into recurring cycles. These happen to coincide with recurring orbits of the planets. Told ya ancient astrologers were using the planets as time keepers and not as puppet masters. They did this just as they did with cycles of the sun and moon. Using planets was just as inevitable. For instance they're noticing a 50 year cycle of violence in the US. That's approximately 4 Jupiter cycles. So, um, why would a cycle require 4 orbits of Jupiter and not just the 1? Could it be they are finding patterns where there are none?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers
You are too kind. I only live for literature and music, and yes, a certain type of woman. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: feste the only thing I've known you to have stars in your eyes about is good literature and certain type of woman, maybe good food too, nature's beauty and good music, good theater. I've never known you to be starry eyed about the TMO. But then I know you in person and MJ doesn't so maybe that's why. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers  I see all the flaws in the TMO. It is not an organization that I would work for. From what I hear, though, the DLF is a better-run organization, and I support their work. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Stop looking at the TMO with stars in your eyes and you will be able to see objectively. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers àYou might like to look up in a dictionary the meaning of the word objective. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: So why make the comment? The truth is it is not necessary to make any judgementsabout the Movement. All one has to do is look objectively at the TMO and one will easily see it is a corrupt, duplicitous, dogmatic, absurdly boastful, inflexible, narrow minded, unreliable, avaricious organization that, like most governments, do not serve the people it claims to serve, neither the people of the TMO, nor the people of the world. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers ÃâàMichael is determined always to believe the absolute worst regarding any aspect of TM or the TMO. He will even make baseless insinuations, such as the one below, cloaked by the ridiculously feeble it could be. There is no point in talking to him. He has no judgment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: So you think that David Lynch is doing it for the money?' L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now how shall I, with my TM-is-mainly-a-scam awareness, interpret this info? It could be that the TMO and its David Lynch schill organization has become self-less and has developed altruism and a big ol' heart. It could me that the DLF is actually charging people some money on the sly somehow and making money off the deal. It could be that the numbers the TMODLF Conglomerate is lying about the numbers being taught so they can justify the amount of money they are taking in to match the numbers of people they are claiming to teach. Ah, I knew I would stumble on the truth one day! And you can bet that no matter how many they are teaching down there, they have some scheme in mind to make them lifelong customers. From: sparaig LEnglish5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàVery true. However, most of the kids in South America and Mexico who are learning the TM-Sidhis are learning for free as well, and the TM organization would be very foolish to think that the average poverty-stricken Indian in Mexico, or the average former sex-slave in a Columbian orphanage, is going to contribute to the TM organization's bottom line, *ever*... Unless, of course, long-term TM and TM-Sidhis practice works as advertised. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers
You are too kind. I live only for literature and music, and, yes, a certain type of woman. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: feste the only thing I've known you to have stars in your eyes about is good literature and certain type of woman, maybe good food too, nature's beauty and good music, good theater. I've never known you to be starry eyed about the TMO. But then I know you in person and MJ doesn't so maybe that's why. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers  I see all the flaws in the TMO. It is not an organization that I would work for. From what I hear, though, the DLF is a better-run organization, and I support their work. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Stop looking at the TMO with stars in your eyes and you will be able to see objectively. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers àYou might like to look up in a dictionary the meaning of the word objective. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: So why make the comment? The truth is it is not necessary to make any judgementsabout the Movement. All one has to do is look objectively at the TMO and one will easily see it is a corrupt, duplicitous, dogmatic, absurdly boastful, inflexible, narrow minded, unreliable, avaricious organization that, like most governments, do not serve the people it claims to serve, neither the people of the TMO, nor the people of the world. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers ÃâàMichael is determined always to believe the absolute worst regarding any aspect of TM or the TMO. He will even make baseless insinuations, such as the one below, cloaked by the ridiculously feeble it could be. There is no point in talking to him. He has no judgment. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: So you think that David Lynch is doing it for the money?' L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Now how shall I, with my TM-is-mainly-a-scam awareness, interpret this info? It could be that the TMO and its David Lynch schill organization has become self-less and has developed altruism and a big ol' heart. It could me that the DLF is actually charging people some money on the sly somehow and making money off the deal. It could be that the numbers the TMODLF Conglomerate is lying about the numbers being taught so they can justify the amount of money they are taking in to match the numbers of people they are claiming to teach. Ah, I knew I would stumble on the truth one day! And you can bet that no matter how many they are teaching down there, they have some scheme in mind to make them lifelong customers. From: sparaig LEnglish5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 1:44 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bootleg UK TM teachers ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàVery true. However, most of the kids in South America and Mexico who are learning the TM-Sidhis are learning for free as well, and the TM organization would be very foolish to think that the average poverty-stricken Indian in Mexico, or the average former sex-slave in a Columbian orphanage, is going to contribute to the TM organization's bottom line, *ever*... Unless, of course, long-term TM and TM-Sidhis practice works as advertised. L
Re: [FairfieldLife] Predicting the Future
noozguru I don't associate Jupiter with violence but maybe has more to do with Chiron which runs on a 50 year cycle. Here's part of an article by Joyce Mason and the url for the whole thing. BTW, maybe no violence in 1820 because Chiron was in a friendly sign? Just speculating. http://www.aplaceinspace.net/Pages/JMOuters5.html Chiron's importance to outerplanetary people can hardly be overstated. It is the thread that weaves together the tapestry of the outer planets as a living aggregate in our charts. Chiron is the glue that makes outerplanetary people solid and capable of handling the strong energies that we are asked to bring down to Earth day by day -- first for ourselves, then for others, inspiring them to enter courageously into their own encounters with Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Chiron's binding influence with the trans-Saturnian planets is reason enough to want know your Chiron -- for if you do, the outer planets and their combined meaning will simply fall into place in one grand got it! The Power of Fifty Since my Chiron Return, I have deepened my understanding of the Chiron archetype and the possibilities of its 50-year cycle by transit through a natal chart. My great-nephew was baptized on Pentecost Sunday, the Christian celebration of the descent of the Holy Spirit fifty days after Easter. I knew this was no accident for Zachary -- or for Auntie Joyce. The parallels between the lives of Chiron and Jesus are legion.[1] Chiron is an earlier, Greek mythological version of the same archetype -- the one so many cultures venerate as the spiritual ideal. At Zach's christening, I felt like I was living Chiron's progressed chart -- the Pentecost as the 50th day after the death of Jesus and the descent of the Holy Spirit on the apostles is a metaphor for the 50th year of life and the Chiron Return.[2] As Zach was chrismated -- anointed with holy oil on his crown -- I thought about the tongues of fire over the apostles' heads at Pentecost -- such a living symbol of spirit and inspiration, hovering over their crown chakras. Watching our family's new baby become initiated into his spiritual life, I saw his godparents as Chiron and Chariclo, now entrusted with his Godlink. I was moved to tears, as I realized that by our 50th year, the descent of Spirit must be upon us -- we must be aware of it -- if we are to accomplish what we came here to do. And somehow, it all goes back to the fact of our birth and the spiritual connection baptism and Pentecost both represent. Our mission is merely to realize that we never lost that connection with All That Is when we left pure spirit for a physical body. We brought our spirits with us. In Chiron: Rainbow Bridge Between the Inner and Outer Planets, Barbara Hand Clow reviews the symbolism of the number 50 from many sources. Fifty often symbolizes attainment of a difficult task. Learning to live spiritually in a material world for half a century sure qualifies! In the end, it is our spirits that will get us through the rest of our lives and the continuous challenge of these rapidly changing, end-beginning times. We are being asked to evolve beyond light speed. From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Predicting the Future These guys better watch out because they may also wind up validating astrology with their research.:-D http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/cliodynamics-peter-turchin/all/ They're looking into recurring cycles. These happen to coincide with recurring orbits of the planets. Told ya ancient astrologers were using the planets as time keepers and not as puppet masters. They did this just as they did with cycles of the sun and moon. Using planets was just as inevitable. For instance they're noticing a 50 year cycle of violence in the US. That's approximately 4 Jupiter cycles.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Predicting the Future
On 04/10/2013 10:09 AM, salyavin808 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: These guys better watch out because they may also wind up validating astrology with their research.:-D http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/cliodynamics-peter-turchin/all/ They're looking into recurring cycles. These happen to coincide with recurring orbits of the planets. Told ya ancient astrologers were using the planets as time keepers and not as puppet masters. They did this just as they did with cycles of the sun and moon. Using planets was just as inevitable. For instance they're noticing a 50 year cycle of violence in the US. That's approximately 4 Jupiter cycles. So, um, why would a cycle require 4 orbits of Jupiter and not just the 1? Could it be they are finding patterns where there are none? We know that ancient tribes measured things like a number of moons not just one moon cycle. So they inevitably would have kept count of different planet cycles too. I've even seen interviews with anthropologists who think this is the origin of astrology. I know the idea that astrology works makes flatlanders crap. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:00 AM, card cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
wrote:
Complaints have been flooding (different from the trending word word
flood) in from my lurker fan base - I need to clarify some of the
terms
before I lose 10% of my fans
Kapati = deceitful
kapaTa%{as} , %{am} m. n. (%{kamp} Comm. on Un2. iv , 81) , fraud ,
deceit , cheating , circumvention MBh. Bhartr2. Pan5cat. c. ; m. N. of a
Da1nava MBh. i , 2534 ; (%{I}) f. a measure equal to the capacity of the
hollows of the two hands joined L. ; N. of a tree Nigh.
Yeah the other day I was like why the hell is Card wasting his time making
facetious remarks - comparing Kapati to cup of tea, he should be providing us
the etymology of the word, providing comparable words in Norwegian, Finnish or
Swedish. So yeah thanks dude.
[FairfieldLife] Re: .00001% total harmonic distortion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: The Yamaha basic amplifier puts out 250 watts per channel in stereo with less than .1% total harmonic distortion. With that kind of power I need some really robust speakers, so I moved up from Advents to floor-standing JBLs. What is interesting about this is that not many people can distinguish less than 1% total harmonic distortion on pure tones, let alone music, and few speaker systems can get as low a 0.5% total harmonic distortion; most have higher distortion, with car stereos running as high as 5%. Thus an amplifier with even 0.1% harmonic distortion typically could not be heard as different from any amplifier with less distortion through any speaker system, all else being equal (frequency response, level etc.). Back in the mid-80s, I got suckered by Carver's hyped specs, and the local hi-fi dealer in Fairfield did a great job of clueing me in by simply putting my hugely powerful Carver amp up against a 60 watt Adcom on the same set of speakers. Whodathunk playing loud is not the same as playing well? It was shocking how shitty the Carver amp sounded compared to the Adcom. It is hard to say just what causes a specific difference in sound. From the viewpoint of double-blind testing a trained person can detect a 0.2dB difference in sound level, though most people can't detect a 1 or 2dB difference. A louder level usually sounds 'better' to the person, even if they cannot tell the volume level is different, it's a subliminal resonse. This is a trick audio dealers use to differentiate speakers - play the more expensive one a bit louder. This also applies to portions of the frequency response. A slight rise at 4 kilohertz will make equipment sound a bit brighter. The big difference in speakers is uneven frequency response. If the entire range of the frequency response can be held within 0.2db, and the levels overall within that range, they should sound the same; outside that range, just a bit, some persons may detect a difference. This can be done with amplifiers, but the best speakers' frequency response is rarely within plus or minus 2dB, so they all sound different in some way depending on where the peaks and valleys of the response fall, in the bass, mid-range, or treble. It is very difficult to control these levels to these tolerances outside of a laboratory setting. Carver was a very clever engineer, so I wonder what the problem was with the amp you had. The high fi dealer you dealt with, that wasn't Paul Squillo was it? He used to pull the volume control trick when demonstrating speakers. A note about Carver from the Wikipedia: Carver caused a stir in the industry in the mid-1980s when he challenged two high-end audio magazines to give him any audio amplifier at any price, and heâd duplicate its sound in one of his lower cost (and usually much more powerful) designs. Two magazines accepted the challenge. First, The Audio Critic chose a Mark Levinson ML-2 which Bob acoustically copied (transfer function duplication) and sold as his M1.5t amplifier (the âtâ stood for transfer function modified). In 1985, Stereophile magazine challenged Bob to copy a Conrad-Johnson Premier Five (the make and model was not named then, but revealed later) amplifier at their offices in New Mexico within 48 hours. The Conrad Johnson amplifier was one of the most highly regarded amplifiers of its day, costing in excess of $12,000. Of note that in both cases, the challenging amplifier could only be treated as a black box and could not even have its lid removed. Nevertheless, Carver, using null difference testing, successfully copied the sound of the target amplifier and won the challenge. The Stereophile employees failed to pass a single blind test with their own equipment in their own listening room. He marketed t versions of his amplifiers incorporating the sound of the Mark Levinson and Conrad Johnson designs which caused him some criticism by those who failed to understand the true nature of the challenge â that it was possible to duplicate an audio amplifier's sound in two completely dissimilar designs. In light of this criticism, Carver went on to design the Silver Seven, the most expensive and esoteric conventional amplifier up to that time and duplicated its sound in his M 4.0t and later models which sold for some 1/40th the price (around $600â$1500).
[FairfieldLife] Re: .00001% total harmonic distortion
Yes, it was Paul Squillo. With the amps, it wasn't a matter of one being played louder than the other. The Carver very clearly lacked low end, and the high end was gritty and irritating. The little Adcom had better bass and an overall smoother sound to it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: The Yamaha basic amplifier puts out 250 watts per channel in stereo with less than .1% total harmonic distortion. With that kind of power I need some really robust speakers, so I moved up from Advents to floor-standing JBLs. What is interesting about this is that not many people can distinguish less than 1% total harmonic distortion on pure tones, let alone music, and few speaker systems can get as low a 0.5% total harmonic distortion; most have higher distortion, with car stereos running as high as 5%. Thus an amplifier with even 0.1% harmonic distortion typically could not be heard as different from any amplifier with less distortion through any speaker system, all else being equal (frequency response, level etc.). Back in the mid-80s, I got suckered by Carver's hyped specs, and the local hi-fi dealer in Fairfield did a great job of clueing me in by simply putting my hugely powerful Carver amp up against a 60 watt Adcom on the same set of speakers. Whodathunk playing loud is not the same as playing well? It was shocking how shitty the Carver amp sounded compared to the Adcom. It is hard to say just what causes a specific difference in sound. From the viewpoint of double-blind testing a trained person can detect a 0.2dB difference in sound level, though most people can't detect a 1 or 2dB difference. A louder level usually sounds 'better' to the person, even if they cannot tell the volume level is different, it's a subliminal resonse. This is a trick audio dealers use to differentiate speakers - play the more expensive one a bit louder. This also applies to portions of the frequency response. A slight rise at 4 kilohertz will make equipment sound a bit brighter. The big difference in speakers is uneven frequency response. If the entire range of the frequency response can be held within 0.2db, and the levels overall within that range, they should sound the same; outside that range, just a bit, some persons may detect a difference. This can be done with amplifiers, but the best speakers' frequency response is rarely within plus or minus 2dB, so they all sound different in some way depending on where the peaks and valleys of the response fall, in the bass, mid-range, or treble. It is very difficult to control these levels to these tolerances outside of a laboratory setting. Carver was a very clever engineer, so I wonder what the problem was with the amp you had. The high fi dealer you dealt with, that wasn't Paul Squillo was it? He used to pull the volume control trick when demonstrating speakers. A note about Carver from the Wikipedia: Carver caused a stir in the industry in the mid-1980s when he challenged two high-end audio magazines to give him any audio amplifier at any price, and heâd duplicate its sound in one of his lower cost (and usually much more powerful) designs. Two magazines accepted the challenge. First, The Audio Critic chose a Mark Levinson ML-2 which Bob acoustically copied (transfer function duplication) and sold as his M1.5t amplifier (the âtâ stood for transfer function modified). In 1985, Stereophile magazine challenged Bob to copy a Conrad-Johnson Premier Five (the make and model was not named then, but revealed later) amplifier at their offices in New Mexico within 48 hours. The Conrad Johnson amplifier was one of the most highly regarded amplifiers of its day, costing in excess of $12,000. Of note that in both cases, the challenging amplifier could only be treated as a black box and could not even have its lid removed. Nevertheless, Carver, using null difference testing, successfully copied the sound of the target amplifier and won the challenge. The Stereophile employees failed to pass a single blind test with their own equipment in their own listening room. He marketed t versions of his amplifiers incorporating the sound of the Mark Levinson and Conrad Johnson designs which caused him some criticism by those who failed to understand the true nature of the challenge â that it was possible to duplicate an audio amplifier's sound in two completely dissimilar designs. In light of this criticism, Carver went on to design the Silver Seven, the most expensive and esoteric conventional amplifier up to that time and
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I remember my first post to him was to ask him to use paragraph breaks so we could more easily read what he was saying. Remember how he used to post in one massive block of text? I always thought that was odd for a guy who had written books, to not have any awareness of his reader. Catching up (I've been busy...uh...having a life), I have to comment on this because it's one of my pet peeves. It's an indication of someone who has never really had to write for an audience that is not already committed to him (read, someone who has never written for a non-cult audience). Anyone who actually *cared* about their audience would have cut things into smaller paragraphs without a second thought. That's just what one DOES when writing for a modern audience, one trained by our modern fast cut media to have a short attention span. But nooo. What is even more fascinating to me is the fact that a supposedly professional editor never called him on it. I mean, we're talking about someone who nitpicks and corrects even the slightest grammatical infraction as if it were a Mortal Sin. But Robin got a total pass. What's up with that, eh?
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Hilarious. I can just imagine twits here jumping on this as if it's a grievous and non-forgivable-in-this-lifetime insult, instead of the obvious (and funny)joke it is. Their loss. I just don't understand how they walk with that stick up their butts. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Any chance we can claim just one of the OC or D? If so, I would like to place dibs on obsessive because that is how I pursue all my interests (although I prefer passionate to describe my focus). That would allow Judy to claim compulsive which sounds about right for where she is on the spectrum. Of course no one should deny that the winner of disorder should rightfully be Robin. Even Robin might cop to that. Or he would let loose a word flood denial of it that would just prove the point definitely.
[FairfieldLife] Re: .00001% total harmonic distortion
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: The Yamaha basic amplifier puts out 250 watts per channel in stereo with less than .1% total harmonic distortion. With that kind of power I need some really robust speakers, so I moved up from Advents to floor-standing JBLs. What is interesting about this is that not many people can distinguish less than 1% total harmonic distortion on pure tones, let alone music, and few speaker systems can get as low a 0.5% total harmonic distortion; most have higher distortion, with car stereos running as high as 5%. Thus an amplifier with even 0.1% harmonic distortion typically could not be heard as different from any amplifier with less distortion through any speaker system, all else being equal (frequency response, level etc.). Back in the mid-80s, I got suckered by Carver's hyped specs, and the local hi-fi dealer in Fairfield did a great job of clueing me in by simply putting my hugely powerful Carver amp up against a 60 watt Adcom on the same set of speakers. Whodathunk playing loud is not the same as playing well? It was shocking how shitty the Carver amp sounded compared to the Adcom. It is hard to say just what causes a specific difference in sound. From the viewpoint of double-blind testing a trained person can detect a 0.2dB difference in sound level, though most people can't detect a 1 or 2dB difference. A louder level usually sounds 'better' to the person, even if they cannot tell the volume level is different, it's a subliminal resonse. This is a trick audio dealers use to differentiate speakers - play the more expensive one a bit louder. This also applies to portions of the frequency response. A slight rise at 4 kilohertz will make equipment sound a bit brighter. The big difference in speakers is uneven frequency response. If the entire range of the frequency response can be held within 0.2db, and the levels overall within that range, they should sound the same; outside that range, just a bit, some persons may detect a difference. This can be done with amplifiers, but the best speakers' frequency response is rarely within plus or minus 2dB, so they all sound different in some way depending on where the peaks and valleys of the response fall, in the bass, mid-range, or treble. It is very difficult to control these levels to these tolerances outside of a laboratory setting. Carver was a very clever engineer, so I wonder what the problem was with the amp you had. The high fi dealer you dealt with, that wasn't Paul Squillo was it? He used to pull the volume control trick when demonstrating speakers. A note about Carver from the Wikipedia: Carver caused a stir in the industry in the mid-1980s when he challenged two high-end audio magazines to give him any audio amplifier at any price, and heâd duplicate its sound in one of his lower cost (and usually much more powerful) designs. Two magazines accepted the challenge. First, The Audio Critic chose a Mark Levinson ML-2 which Bob acoustically copied (transfer function duplication) and sold as his M1.5t amplifier (the âtâ stood for transfer function modified). In 1985, Stereophile magazine challenged Bob to copy a Conrad-Johnson Premier Five (the make and model was not named then, but revealed later) amplifier at their offices in New Mexico within 48 hours. The Conrad Johnson amplifier was one of the most highly regarded amplifiers of its day, costing in excess of $12,000. Of note that in both cases, the challenging amplifier could only be treated as a black box and could not even have its lid removed. Nevertheless, Carver, using null difference testing, successfully copied the sound of the target amplifier and won the challenge. The Stereophile employees failed to pass a single blind test with their own equipment in their own listening room. He marketed t versions of his amplifiers incorporating the sound of the Mark Levinson and Conrad Johnson designs which caused him some criticism by those who failed to understand the true nature of the challenge â that it was possible to duplicate an audio amplifier's sound in two completely dissimilar designs. In light of this criticism, Carver went on to design the Silver Seven, the most expensive and esoteric conventional amplifier up to that time and duplicated its sound in his M 4.0t and later models which sold for some 1/40th the price (around $600â$1500). Cool. I had the pleasure of hearing the Mark Levinson reference set-up at a Hi-Fi show once. It sounded considerably better than reality ever could, to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Predicting the Future
Western astrology uses stupid things like a Chiron which has a VERY erratic orbit. I only have interest in the planets that can be observed by the naked eye. Neptune, Uranus and Pluto are recent additions for the western crew who must have been finding their predictions failing because they don't use the precession of the equinox. Jupiter is often associated with social and financial issues. Violence in countries occurs because of tyranny. People can only take things for so long lying down then the straw breaks the camel's back and it's party time. The real reason they want to curb guns is to control people because there is absolutely no way the economy will be able to recover from the crimes of the banking industry. The damage may well last centuries and give rise to violence if not a civil war in the US. I am one who does not tolerate group think. I saw some of that after 9/11. A pending economic crash will have buffoons telling me what to think and at my age I don't care if I get into trouble whacking them one for it or at least telling them what they can do with themselves. My opinion on astrology often does not sit well with astrologers either who seem to think there is some mystical reason behind it. There may well be but if you want to trump the pseudo-scientists, a term I use a little differently from the way it is usually taken, then the concept of the planets being markers just as we know the sun and moon were is a good argument. Usually the naysayer have only a peripheral knowledge of astrology such as only knowing the newspaper columns so are easy to trump. On 04/10/2013 11:05 AM, Share Long wrote: noozguru I don't associate Jupiter with violence but maybe has more to do with Chiron which runs on a 50 year cycle. Here's part of an article by Joyce Mason and the url for the whole thing. BTW, maybe no violence in 1820 because Chiron was in a friendly sign? Just speculating. http://www.aplaceinspace.net/Pages/JMOuters5.html Chiron's importance to outerplanetary people can hardly be overstated. It is the thread that weaves together the tapestry of the outer planets as a living aggregate in our charts. Chiron is the glue that makes outerplanetary people solid and capable of handling the strong energies that we are asked to bring down to Earth day by day -- first for ourselves, then for others, inspiring them to enter courageously into their own encounters with Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Chiron's binding influence with the trans-Saturnian planets is reason enough to want know your Chiron -- for if you do, the outer planets and their combined meaning will simply fall into place in one grand got it! The Power of Fifty Since my Chiron Return, I have deepened my understanding of the Chiron archetype and the possibilities of its 50-year cycle by transit through a natal chart. My great-nephew was baptized on Pentecost Sunday, the Christian celebration of the descent of the Holy Spirit fifty days after Easter. I knew this was no accident for Zachary -- or for Auntie Joyce. The parallels between the lives of Chiron and Jesus are legion.[1] Chiron is an earlier, Greek mythological version of the same archetype -- the one so many cultures venerate as the spiritual ideal. At Zach's christening, I felt like I was living Chiron's progressed chart -- the Pentecost as the 50th day after the death of Jesus and the descent of the Holy Spirit on the apostles is a metaphor for the 50th year of life and the Chiron Return.[2] As Zach was chrismated -- anointed with holy oil on his crown -- I thought about the tongues of fire over the apostles' heads at Pentecost -- such a living symbol of spirit and inspiration, hovering over their crown chakras. Watching our family's new baby become initiated into his spiritual life, I saw his godparents as Chiron and Chariclo, now entrusted with his Godlink. I was moved to tears, as I realized that by our 50th year, the descent of Spirit must be upon us -- we must be aware of it -- if we are to accomplish what we came here to do. And somehow, it all goes back to the fact of our birth and the spiritual connection baptism and Pentecost both represent. Our mission is merely to realize that we never lost that connection with All That Is when we left pure spirit for a physical body. We brought our spirits with us. In Chiron: Rainbow Bridge Between the Inner and Outer Planets, Barbara Hand Clow reviews the symbolism of the number 50 from many sources. Fifty often symbolizes attainment of a difficult task. Learning to live spiritually in a material world for half a century sure qualifies! In the end, it is our spirits that will get us through the rest of our lives and the continuous challenge of these rapidly changing, end-beginning times. We are being asked to evolve beyond light speed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:20 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I remember my first post to him was to ask him to use paragraph breaks so we could more easily read what he was saying. Remember how he used to post in one massive block of text? I always thought that was odd for a guy who had written books, to not have any awareness of his reader. Catching up (I've been busy...uh...having a life), Yes we can indeed feel you are finally having a life - EPA has finally certified FFL given the dramatic decrease in your toxic posts. Good job !!! I have to comment on this because it's one of my pet peeves. It's an indication of someone who has never really had to write for an audience that is not already committed to him (read, someone who has never written for a non-cult audience). Anyone who actually *cared* about their audience would have cut things into smaller paragraphs without a second thought. That's just what one DOES when writing for a modern audience, one trained by our modern fast cut media to have a short attention span. But nooo. What is even more fascinating to me is the fact that a supposedly professional editor never called him on it. I mean, we're talking about someone who nitpicks and corrects even the slightest grammatical infraction as if it were a Mortal Sin. But Robin got a total pass. What's up with that, eh?
[FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 4:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , authfriend authfriend@ mailto:authfriend@ wrote: Curtis has put an enormous amount of study and practice into appearing reasonable, calm and heartfelt as he spins the most egregiously preposterous tales. Some of us who have interacted with him on a regular basis over time have come to realize just how devious he is, how ruthless and calculating and malicious is the mendacity of his attacks on those who dare to challenge him. Curtis is quite remarkable in his veiled aggression, probably the most aggressive poster ever on FFL. Compared to him the Turq appears as a lost little teddy-bear. The Turq also doesn't make obvious and foolish mistakes like proclaiming I'm an artist :-) It's all that hillbilly music. It gets to you after a while. That's right :-) And copying the music of others is obviously creating deep frustrations.
[FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 4:48 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ravi, Ann, Share, LG (was Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , authfriend authfriend@ mailto:authfriend@ wrote: Curtis has put an enormous amount of study and practice into appearing reasonable, calm and heartfelt as he spins the most egregiously preposterous tales. Some of us who have interacted with him on a regular basis over time have come to realize just how devious he is, how ruthless and calculating and malicious is the mendacity of his attacks on those who dare to challenge him. Curtis is quite remarkable in his veiled aggression, probably the most aggressive poster ever on FFL. Compared to him the Turq appears as a lost little teddy-bear. The Turq also doesn't make obvious and foolish mistakes like proclaiming I'm an artist :-) It's all that hillbilly music. It gets to you after a while. That's right :-) And copying the music of others while claiming to be an artist obviously creates a lot of frustration after a while.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 10, 2013, at 12:20 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: I remember my first post to him was to ask him to use paragraph breaks so we could more easily read what he was saying. Remember how he used to post in one massive block of text? I always thought that was odd for a guy who had written books, to not have any awareness of his reader. Catching up (I've been busy...uh...having a life), Yes we can indeed feel you are finally having a life - EPA has finally certified FFL given the dramatic decrease in your toxic posts. Good job !!! And some friendly advice from one who's been dealing with it, uh for his entire life - life can be a bitch Barry. Sorry for being so blunt. Welcome to life !!!
[FairfieldLife] Free Man In Paris, v2.08
So it's been a busy day, what with us having to rush out a release of the product I'm working on (which BTW is on the short list for Best Mobile Development Environment in a poll being conducted by a fairly respected global software organization). So I'm kicking back in my 'hood in the 5th arrondissement in a pizza joint across the street from where I live, with a glass of Westmalle Tripel, my laptop, and a football game on the TV all in front of me. I simply could care less about European football (soccer). I played it once, back in college, but I was officially No Damned Good, and never pursued an interest in it afterwards. I am SO much not a fan that I don't even really know (having left my glasses at home and not being able to read the TV screen across the room from my corner table) who is playing, except that the French announcers keep mentioning Barcelona, and the crowd in this joint all cheer when the other side makes a goal, so I assume that the other team is French. This is a fairly upscale 'hood. I have glanced at the ads in the windows of realtors as I've walked around, and there are few properties (apartments) in this 'hood that sell for less than a million Euros, and most of them sell for more than that. This said, the crowd at this pizza joint is remarkably egalitarian for an upscale Paris 'hood. There are men in business suits that cost more than my watch (which cost more than my car), there are a few clearly working class guys, and there a quite a few young people, either the French version of Yuppies or students longing to become the French version of Yuppies when they graduate. Yet they all still seem to be having a good time. Again, no one in the joint is drunk. They sit and *sip* at their beers and their cocktails and their glasses of wine. In Britain seven fights would have broken out among drunks by this point in the game. I'm clearly the Odd Man Out in this crowd, sitting at my corner table eating my pizza and not watching the game. But I'm having fun, so fuck anyone who thinks badly of me. What the guys glued to the game don't seem to realize is that the babes they dragged with them to this joint are paying more attention to the old fart in the corner writing on his computer than they are to the sports-clone-guys watching the game. Maybe it's because they think I'm interesting, sitting here typing this into my laptop. More likely it's because I'm just *different* than the guys they're used to hanging with. Either way, it's refreshing at my age to be flirted with by younger women, who are WAY attractive in a Parisian kinda way, but who would probably kill me in bed if I ever took any of them home, so I tend to ignore their flirtations. :-) I guess all I'm trying to say is that this dinner in a pizza joint in Paris is WAY fun. And sitting here in the background trying to catch up on some of the goings-on of Fairfield Life in the last day or so, I cannot help but notice that life does NOT seem to be a lot of fun for many of the people who post there. A pity. They're missing out on so much...
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Actually, Hagelin was pretty big back when he was still publishing. Yyou realize that the Director of Research at CERN asked him to tweak Flipped SU(5) originally, right? So, how does that make him world renowned? I think we apply a different value to the term. And consciousness being the unified field is kinda a tautology if you look at how Tononi defines phi in his Integrated Information Theory. To a neuroscientist the term unified field refers to the image of sense data the brain creates. Bit different to JH's intention of consciousness as the source of matter itself. Consciousness ain't the *source* of matter! Matter *is* kinda double helix twisted consciousness!? :D Kapila and PJ didn't obviously believe that, but hey, it's *there* problem, now ain't it?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Free Man In Paris, v2.08
On 04/10/2013 01:28 PM, turquoiseb wrote: So it's been a busy day, what with us having to rush out a release of the product I'm working on (which BTW is on the short list for Best Mobile Development Environment in a poll being conducted by a fairly respected global software organization). So I'm kicking back in my 'hood in the 5th arrondissement in a pizza joint across the street from where I live, with a glass of Westmalle Tripel, my laptop, and a football game on the TV all in front of me. The two multi-platform environments I have looked at and in some cases tried are Corona and Marmalade. I think both fell short of what I needed or required learning another API. I know for one you still needed a Mac if you were going to do iOS apps.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Predicting the Future
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: noozguru I don't associate Jupiter with violence but maybe has more to do with Chiron which runs on a 50 year cycle. Here's part of an article by Joyce Mason and the url for the whole thing. BTW, maybe no violence in 1820 because Chiron was in a friendly sign? Just speculating. Whoa! Never paid any attention to Chiron, but this description is IMO so accurate was in goose pumps when reading it (Moon conjunct with Chiron, 20 degrees Sag): Chiron conjunct the Moon is a difficult position because the natives have such intense emotions that it is difficult for them to understand the effect they have on others. They are extremely sensitive, they are very mystical about emotional bonding, and the day-to-day levels of relationships are almost impossible to bear. The ideal for this native is to master Saturn and to form a solid bond with a mate, because then the power of Uranian transformation can enter his or her life through the relationship. This native will be almost terrified of restrictions because of the Uranian desire for freedom. But if he or she can find the right partner who will help work with Saturn without undue restrictions, then the possibility of kundalini energy will manifest in sexual sharing. This native may be too involved with his or her mother, which can block the opportunity for a relationship. Also, this native will tend to attract intense and transformative partners. The key to actualizing the spiritual beauty of Chiron conjunct the Moon is Saturn grounding and balance, with room for Uranian transformation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Predicting the Future
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: noozguru I don't associate Jupiter with violence but maybe has more to do with Chiron which runs on a 50 year cycle. Here's part of an article by Joyce Mason and the url for the whole thing. BTW, maybe no violence in 1820 because Chiron was in a friendly sign? Just speculating. Whoa! Never paid any attention to Chiron, but this description is IMO so accurate was in goose pumps Er, goosebumps... :] when reading it (Moon conjunct with Chiron, 20 degrees Sag): Chiron conjunct the Moon is a difficult position because the natives have such intense emotions that it is difficult for them to understand the effect they have on others. They are extremely sensitive, they are very mystical about emotional bonding, and the day-to-day levels of relationships are almost impossible to bear. The ideal for this native is to master Saturn and to form a solid bond with a mate, because then the power of Uranian transformation can enter his or her life through the relationship. This native will be almost terrified of restrictions because of the Uranian desire for freedom. But if he or she can find the right partner who will help work with Saturn without undue restrictions, then the possibility of kundalini energy will manifest in sexual sharing. This native may be too involved with his or her mother, which can block the opportunity for a relationship. Also, this native will tend to attract intense and transformative partners. The key to actualizing the spiritual beauty of Chiron conjunct the Moon is Saturn grounding and balance, with room for Uranian transformation.
[FairfieldLife] Da Vinci's Demons Begins
...with The Hanged Man http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1zVl6p3yFs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1zVl6p3yFs Seems in writer Goyer's imagination of the young genius from ( Da) Vinci, mysteries, codes and secret societies play a big part telling the audience he's going to mess with them , going to manipulate them with a generous helping hand of computer graphics( 400 CGI interior and exterior shots that bring ancient Florence to life Renaissance Florence in the 15th century, the series was actually filmed in Swansea, a coastal area of Wales) According to Goyer this bastard son Leonardo who yearns for legitimacy with his father search for the (fictional) Book of Leaves, a tome said to contain the secrets of the universe, a 15th-century manuscript discovered by a rare book dealer 100 years ago that has never been deciphered. David S. Goyer co-writer of the Dark Knight Trilogy and Man of Steel,seems to be pleased that current events may pique people's interest in Da Vinci's Demons. I'd be lying if I said the fact that the pope retiring and a new pope being elected three weeks before our show wasn't fortuitous, he says. I think it's great for us as well that da Vinci's manuscripts were recently put online (on the British Library website, www.bl.uk http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/www.bl.uk ) http://www.bl.uk/ttp2/ttpleofacts.html http://www.bl.uk/ttp2/ttpleofacts.html http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/virtualbooks/index.html http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/virtualbooks/index.html for everyone (IMHO more serious) to see. It's not like we timed it, but we hopefully just got lucky Hope you are all dressed in a minute, too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuFQr9dsv7w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuFQr9dsv7w to be prepared in 2 daysor is it one [:D] Friday night's semi-ridiculous-but-fun Da Vinci's Demons from Starz, the channel that bought us Spartacus. L.Stasi to watch Steampunk Leonardo solves crimes and invents cool things in `Da Vinci's Demons' [http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2013/04/10/tv/web_photos/10.1t777.davin\ ci_-c---300x300.jpg] http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/da_vinci_da_man_Lx6Kv6MHwxUFnEZ\ hkV6AZN http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/da_vinci_da_man_Lx6Kv6MHwxUFnE\ ZhkV6AZN
[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.08
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 04/10/2013 01:28 PM, turquoiseb wrote: So it's been a busy day, what with us having to rush out a release of the product I'm working on (which BTW is on the short list for Best Mobile Development Environment in a poll being conducted by a fairly respected global software organization). So I'm kicking back in my 'hood in the 5th arrondissement in a pizza joint across the street from where I live, with a glass of Westmalle Tripel, my laptop, and a football game on the TV all in front of me. The two multi-platform environments I have looked at and in some cases tried are Corona and Marmalade. I think both fell short of what I needed or required learning another API. I know for one you still needed a Mac if you were going to do iOS apps. Duh. Try to download the iOS SDK to any platform other than a Mac. Can't be done. On the product I'm working on, you can develop hybrid HTML5, CSS, and Javascript apps for multiple platforms, but *of course* you need to add proprietary code to take advantage of the weirdo aspects of each platform and add proprietary Java or Objective-C code to them. When developing for the Mac, you need to *compile on the Mac*. There is simply no way around that, because Apple won't download its SDK to other platforms. I'm surprised you didn't know that. That does not say that a multi-platform development IDE doesn't have its place, and its advantages. Our users are currently building once, deploying many times for iOS (both iPhone and iPad), Blackberry, Android, Win8 (both PC and Mobile) and several other platforms, with full security and authentication, integrated testing environments, and deployment environments built in. Plus, the IDE I'm working on is free for developers. Can either of the platforms you named rival that? I don't know, and am genuinely curious...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v2.08
On 04/10/2013 02:34 PM, turquoiseb wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 04/10/2013 01:28 PM, turquoiseb wrote: So it's been a busy day, what with us having to rush out a release of the product I'm working on (which BTW is on the short list for Best Mobile Development Environment in a poll being conducted by a fairly respected global software organization). So I'm kicking back in my 'hood in the 5th arrondissement in a pizza joint across the street from where I live, with a glass of Westmalle Tripel, my laptop, and a football game on the TV all in front of me. The two multi-platform environments I have looked at and in some cases tried are Corona and Marmalade. I think both fell short of what I needed or required learning another API. I know for one you still needed a Mac if you were going to do iOS apps. Duh. Try to download the iOS SDK to any platform other than a Mac. Can't be done. On the product I'm working on, you can develop hybrid HTML5, CSS, and Javascript apps for multiple platforms, but *of course* you need to add proprietary code to take advantage of the weirdo aspects of each platform and add proprietary Java or Objective-C code to them. When developing for the Mac, you need to *compile on the Mac*. There is simply no way around that, because Apple won't download its SDK to other platforms. I'm surprised you didn't know that. Au contraire, I know that very well. I even purchased a small game SDK that allowed one to compile and run an iOS app on Windows. Then you could upload the code to the company and they would compile on a Mac and even publish it for you. It was too light for my needs. And actually I was able to download example source and docs on iOS from Apple. One was a little example game which I converted to Android. Gave me a good idea of how Cocoa worked and how much I could just cheat on developing an iOS app. For iOS I could just hack an example for the GUI and everything else would be in C++. That does not say that a multi-platform development IDE doesn't have its place, and its advantages. Our users are currently building once, deploying many times for iOS (both iPhone and iPad), Blackberry, Android, Win8 (both PC and Mobile) and several other platforms, with full security and authentication, integrated testing environments, and deployment environments built in. Plus, the IDE I'm working on is free for developers. Can either of the platforms you named rival that? I don't know, and am genuinely curious... Corona just released a lighter free version. I had their full version but the new one needs me to set up an account. Most of these solutions make more sense for a corporate or that buzz word enterprise environment but not a bedroom developer. Spread yourself too thin and you'll regret it as support is the backend of these things. Fortunately I learned that in world class development in the 1990s. A lot of this stuff is for business software development which I find boring. I'm a jazz musician who likes to write computer code. I'm sure you can just imagine how well that goes over with the biological androids who work in the tech industry. Does work well with visionary entrepreneurs though.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Predicting the Future
There are lots of rocks flying through space one could hang meaning off of. Even the calculations of JPL for Chiron are considered a wild ass guess since it's not been known long enough to get a good handle on any predictable orbit. On 04/10/2013 02:22 PM, card wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: noozguru I don't associate Jupiter with violence but maybe has more to do with Chiron which runs on a 50 year cycle. Here's part of an article by Joyce Mason and the url for the whole thing. BTW, maybe no violence in 1820 because Chiron was in a friendly sign? Just speculating. Whoa! Never paid any attention to Chiron, but this description is IMO so accurate was in goose pumps when reading it (Moon conjunct with Chiron, 20 degrees Sag): Chiron conjunct the Moon is a difficult position because the natives have such intense emotions that it is difficult for them to understand the effect they have on others. They are extremely sensitive, they are very mystical about emotional bonding, and the day-to-day levels of relationships are almost impossible to bear. The ideal for this native is to master Saturn and to form a solid bond with a mate, because then the power of Uranian transformation can enter his or her life through the relationship. This native will be almost terrified of restrictions because of the Uranian desire for freedom. But if he or she can find the right partner who will help work with Saturn without undue restrictions, then the possibility of kundalini energy will manifest in sexual sharing. This native may be too involved with his or her mother, which can block the opportunity for a relationship. Also, this native will tend to attract intense and transformative partners. The key to actualizing the spiritual beauty of Chiron conjunct the Moon is Saturn grounding and balance, with room for Uranian transformation.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Predicting the Future
The ancient rishis have cognized and developed the many dasha systems which have different cycles of time for the various planets and the zodiac signs. Up to this day, no one has figured out how the ancient rishis determined the cycles of time therein. These dasha systems are separate from the progressions of the various planets to make predictions of the future. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: These guys better watch out because they may also wind up validating astrology with their research.:-D http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/cliodynamics-peter-turchin/all/ They're looking into recurring cycles. These happen to coincide with recurring orbits of the planets. Told ya ancient astrologers were using the planets as time keepers and not as puppet masters. They did this just as they did with cycles of the sun and moon. Using planets was just as inevitable. For instance they're noticing a 50 year cycle of violence in the US. That's approximately 4 Jupiter cycles.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A TM poster boy's eulogy for Margaret Thatcher
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote: Actually, Hagelin was pretty big back when he was still publishing. Yyou realize that the Director of Research at CERN asked him to tweak Flipped SU(5) originally, right? So, how does that make him world renowned? I think we apply a different value to the term. He was well-respected amongst his peers, world-wide. And consciousness being the unified field is kinda a tautology if you look at how Tononi defines phi in his Integrated Information Theory. To a neuroscientist the term unified field refers to the image of sense data the brain creates. Bit different to JH's intention of consciousness as the source of matter itself. Hmmm... I've never heard a neuroscientist use the term unified field before at all. And Hagelin's point is that the behavior of the QM unified field and the behavior ascribed to consciousness in MMY's interpretation (at least) of the vedic tradition are identical in myriad ways. In fact, he claims that he used MMY''s Vedic Cosmology to guide the mathematical tweaks that Ellis asked him to perform on Flipped SU(5) and that it was due to those specific tweaks that Flipped SU(5) became a more robust superstring theory. L
[FairfieldLife] Re: Predicting the Future
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: These guys better watch out because they may also wind up validating astrology with their research.:-D http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/cliodynamics-peter-turchin/all/ They're looking into recurring cycles. These happen to coincide with recurring orbits of the planets. Told ya ancient astrologers were using the planets as time keepers and not as puppet masters. They did this just as they did with cycles of the sun and moon. Using planets was just as inevitable. For instance they're noticing a 50 year cycle of violence in the US. That's approximately 4 Jupiter cycles. That's been my theory for quite some time as well. Of course, noting a 50-year cycle and actually using it to predict things in a useful way are two different kettles of fish... L
[FairfieldLife] Symphony of the Soil film Thursday
Free Film Screening Thursday, April 11, 7:30pm Dalby Hall, MUM campus Drawing from ancient knowledge and cutting-edge science,Symphony of the Soil is an artistic exploration of the miraculous substance soil. Come explore the relationship of soil to water, the atmosphere, plants, animals, humans, and the most important environmental challenges of our time. Filmed on four continents, featuring esteemed scientists and working farmers and ranchers, Symphony of the Soil is an intriguing presentation that highlights possibilities of healthy soil creating healthy plants creating healthy humans living on a healthy planet. Deborah Koons Garcia has been making films for over 30 years. She received her MFA from the San Francisco Art Institute and owns and operates Lily Films, a production company based in Mill Valley, California. Her film, The Future of Food, premiered at Film Forum in New York City and has screened at theaters, film food and farming festivals all over the world.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Predicting the Future
In 1998, the Magi Society concluded the most extensive research into the astrology of personal relationships. The research resulted in conclusive evidence that Chiron is the most important astrological planet when it comes to matters of love. Because of this long awaited discovery, astrologers can now finally do what it never could do before. For the first time ever, astrologers can actually accurately answer questions about love such as: Whom will you marry? When will you marry? When will you have children? Will your marriage be happy or will it end in heartbreak? Did you marry the one you should have married? http://www.magisociety.com/lesson2.html From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:08 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Predicting the Future --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: These guys better watch out because they may also wind up validating astrology with their research.:-D http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/04/cliodynamics-peter-turchin/all/ They're looking into recurring cycles. These happen to coincide with recurring orbits of the planets. Told ya ancient astrologers were using the planets as time keepers and not as puppet masters. They did this just as they did with cycles of the sun and moon. Using planets was just as inevitable. For instance they're noticing a 50 year cycle of violence in the US. That's approximately 4 Jupiter cycles. That's been my theory for quite some time as well. Of course, noting a 50-year cycle and actually using it to predict things in a useful way are two different kettles of fish... L
[FairfieldLife] Post Count Thu 11-Apr-13 00:15:03 UTC
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[FairfieldLife] US rice imports 'contain harmful levels of lead'
This is not good news for meditation. Dear FF Meditators and Sidhas; Analysis of commercially available rice imported into the US has revealed it contains levels of lead far higher than regulations suggest are safe. Some samples exceeded the provisional total tolerable intake (PTTI) set by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) by a factor of 120. When we compared them, we realised that the daily exposure levels are much higher than those PTTIs, said Dr Tongesayi. If you look through the scientific literature, especially on India and China, they irrigate their crops with raw sewage effluent and untreated industrial effluent, he explained. Dr Tongesayi also said that the increasing practice of sending electronic waste to developing countries - and the pollution it leads to - exacerbates the problem. With a globalized food market, we eat food from every corner of the world, but pollution conditions are different from region to region, agricultural practices are different from region to region, but we ignore that. Please refer to this article and make your own decisions based on the science: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-2200 May the Unified Field be always within your experience, -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] An old friend sells his dad's award
For a record $6 million. My old friend is Michael Crick and his dad, Francis Crick. The family decided to put Francis Crick's Nobel prize up for auction because it was just gathering dust. http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/10/17691825-francis-cricks-dna-letter-to-his-son-sells-at-auction-for-a-record-6-million Michael is game designer I used to hang out with when I was living in Redmond in the Seattle area.
Re: [FairfieldLife] An old friend sells his dad's award
On 04/10/2013 05:39 PM, Bhairitu wrote: For a record $6 million. My old friend is Michael Crick and his dad, Francis Crick. The family decided to put Francis Crick's Nobel prize up for auction because it was just gathering dust. http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/10/17691825-francis-cricks-dna-letter-to-his-son-sells-at-auction-for-a-record-6-million Michael is game designer I used to hang out with when I was living in Redmond in the Seattle area. Small correction: the letter to Michael went for $6 million. The Nobel prize goes up for auction tomorrow. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/science/20130410_ap_dnadiscovererslettersellsformorethan5m.html
[FairfieldLife] new short video on TM and PTSD in African refugees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7wL-NHHy3k This could be the start of a major focus for the TM organization and the DLF. That study that showed 50% reduction in PTSD symptoms in 30 days, if it is replicated by non-TMers and accepted by the general scientific community, could make TM the -de facto_ standard for PTSD stress management. L
[FairfieldLife] Patanjali as a Quantum Physicist
Many of his thoughts in the Yoga Sutras can be related to the ideas in quantum physics today. In sutra III.45, he stated: Thence results the manifestation of the powers, such as atomization et cetera, perfection of the body and indestructibility of its constituents. Specifically, animan pertains the miniaturization of the body. But it could also cover the siddhi to see parts of the body, such as the details of the retina in the eyes. This specific siddhi is the prime example that the universe is based on consciousness. Even the dimensions of space and time are based on consciousness. If this is so, the higher dimensions theorized in physics are not curbed and hidden within space-time. Rather, these dimensions are the various vibrations relating to the states of consciousness in the human experience. In other words, the common experiences of waking, sleeping, and dreaming are part of the higher vibrations of the space-time continuum. In effect, all of nature, even a rock, experiences a form of waking, sleeping and dreaming. Ultimately, however, only the human physiology can experience Unity Consciousness. As such, it's fascinating to contemplate that the human being is the culmination of creation in the universe.
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: You are really getting desperate Steve, begging others to agree with your crap? Perhaps this may shed light on your behavior, read the funny captions - http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/ This is spectacularly apropos, therefore extremely funny. Humour is very much about the timing, as we all know. I had an image here, but it wouldn't transmit. It was titled Cowardice Actually Ann, I think this better describes a person who backs away from a challenge they have put forth with: A) The dog ate my homework (or a variation thereof) B) I am so past this discussion shortly after boldly declaring that they were going to back up a dubious accusation (that evidently that were not able to do. Rules of engagement state that someone who backs away from a fair fight, a fight that they have instigated, that certain labels apply. Not my rules. Sorry about that. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: ** Just chillin here. Emily, do you mean to tell me that you find offense with a well crafted insult as Curtis has done below, but you give a pass to the garbage Ravi spews? I call that quadruple bullshit. My God, does the hypocrisy know no end here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: O.K. Ã I'm back for the moment - I'm so unreliable - but I can't help myself. Ã Curtis, you have outdone yourself, or maybe the word is undone yourself with your posts of today/yesterday. Ã Magic Carpet Ride (Live) Ã - You don't know what we can see. Enjoy. Ã http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkP5gTX6Hc From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Ã Any chance we can claim just one of the OC or D? If so, I would like to place dibs on obsessive because that is how I pursue all my interests (although I prefer passionate to describe my focus). That would allow Judy to claim compulsive which sounds about right for where she is on the spectrum. Of course no one should deny that the winner of disorder should rightfully be Robin. Even Robin might cop to that. Or he would let loose a word flood denial of it that would just prove the point definitely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 04/09/2013 07:25 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Like Judy, the guy is obsessed and it's fucking weird to watch... I also can't imagine still being impressed with Robins empty cult... Bhairitu: Yeah, I can't believe the adolescent hoo-ha gets the patients in the Funny Farm Lounge going. Guess we need to up their meds. ;-) Or, lower yours - there's hardly anything to read here in the first place, so anyone who posts something here is doing us a service. So, I'd like to say thanks to all the FFL informants. With MMY gone, the only comings and goings we can keep up with are a few of the locals and a couple of expats. Go figure. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to - you should understand this, living out in the back of beyond on the road to Erewhon. LoL! So you find petty adolescent squabbling of OCD types interesting? You must have a lot of fun on teen sites. :-D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun: Italian Hugs!
Share... no way was I just *kidding around*. Of course bird flu could be passed via a hug. Your face is right in someone else's face. I think Love Birds do a lot of hugging and ahem... other things as well.;) From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun: Italian Hugs! Mike, are you kidding around? Can bird flu be passed on via a hug? Last but not least, do birds hug each other?! From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fun: Italian Hugs! But.. but... what if they had bird flu? From: Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:38 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fun: Italian Hugs! Heart-warming 4-minute video! Click below to watch this video made in Sondrio , Italy . If you're not smiling by the end, tell me where to send the flowers. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hN8CKwdosjE Enjoy! Music is marvelous!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Buck, has there been any Tmo official response to this in Ffld or India? And who is in charge of all that money in India now that Girish is going? There must be some scrambling and realigning of the rajas and folks in charge Nothing here local yet, too new. Lot of our poobahs and people are still out of town to the inauguration of the big Temple to Maharishi's Presence in India. Mostly just underlings here now. Dome numbers are generally subdued with people still traveling. Likely still some discovery going on. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is really a fabulous opportunity for the new movement to come forward and say,We are not that! and put good people in to those facilities with an expectation of good and honorable behavior from the whole movement. Make it clear. Make a break from the past. Even for the guy at the top. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. Pope Francis calls for action on clerical sex abuse http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22043312 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites. http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-03-08/bhopal/37560420_1_molestation-husband-complaint
[FairfieldLife] Re: .00001% total harmonic distortion
The effect you hear might have been a difference of speaker impedance with the different amplifiers. This can effect frequency response. 'If all loudspeakers had a constant impedance with frequency, high amplifier output impedance would only reduce voltage gain, (as shown above) but not materially affect the frequency balance of the sound. Unfortunately, most loudspeakers have a widely varying impedance with frequency.' 'As amplifier output impedance rises, these differences in frequency response are exaggerated. The changing speaker impedance actually pushes the output voltage of the amplifier around thereby changing the acoustic output of the speaker. The amplifier cannot control its own output voltage.' The impedance matching between the amplifiers might have been different and this could have affected the frequency response from the same speakers. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: Yes, it was Paul Squillo. With the amps, it wasn't a matter of one being played louder than the other. The Carver very clearly lacked low end, and the high end was gritty and irritating. The little Adcom had better bass and an overall smoother sound to it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote: The Yamaha basic amplifier puts out 250 watts per channel in stereo with less than .1% total harmonic distortion. With that kind of power I need some really robust speakers, so I moved up from Advents to floor-standing JBLs. What is interesting about this is that not many people can distinguish less than 1% total harmonic distortion on pure tones, let alone music, and few speaker systems can get as low a 0.5% total harmonic distortion; most have higher distortion, with car stereos running as high as 5%. Thus an amplifier with even 0.1% harmonic distortion typically could not be heard as different from any amplifier with less distortion through any speaker system, all else being equal (frequency response, level etc.). Back in the mid-80s, I got suckered by Carver's hyped specs, and the local hi-fi dealer in Fairfield did a great job of clueing me in by simply putting my hugely powerful Carver amp up against a 60 watt Adcom on the same set of speakers. Whodathunk playing loud is not the same as playing well? It was shocking how shitty the Carver amp sounded compared to the Adcom. It is hard to say just what causes a specific difference in sound. From the viewpoint of double-blind testing a trained person can detect a 0.2dB difference in sound level, though most people can't detect a 1 or 2dB difference. A louder level usually sounds 'better' to the person, even if they cannot tell the volume level is different, it's a subliminal resonse. This is a trick audio dealers use to differentiate speakers - play the more expensive one a bit louder. This also applies to portions of the frequency response. A slight rise at 4 kilohertz will make equipment sound a bit brighter. The big difference in speakers is uneven frequency response. If the entire range of the frequency response can be held within 0.2db, and the levels overall within that range, they should sound the same; outside that range, just a bit, some persons may detect a difference. This can be done with amplifiers, but the best speakers' frequency response is rarely within plus or minus 2dB, so they all sound different in some way depending on where the peaks and valleys of the response fall, in the bass, mid-range, or treble. It is very difficult to control these levels to these tolerances outside of a laboratory setting. Carver was a very clever engineer, so I wonder what the problem was with the amp you had. The high fi dealer you dealt with, that wasn't Paul Squillo was it? He used to pull the volume control trick when demonstrating speakers. A note about Carver from the Wikipedia: Carver caused a stir in the industry in the mid-1980s when he challenged two high-end audio magazines to give him any audio amplifier at any price, and heâd duplicate its sound in one of his lower cost (and usually much more powerful) designs. Two magazines accepted the challenge. First, The Audio Critic chose a Mark Levinson ML-2 which Bob acoustically copied (transfer function duplication) and sold as his M1.5t amplifier (the âtâ stood for transfer function modified). In 1985, Stereophile magazine challenged Bob to copy a Conrad-Johnson Premier Five (the make and model was not named then, but revealed later) amplifier
[FairfieldLife] Re: Girish Varma accused of sexual harassment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote: Buck, has there been any Tmo official response to this in Ffld or India? And who is in charge of all that money in India now that Girish is going? There must be some scrambling and realigning of the rajas and folks in charge Nothing here local yet, too new. Lot of our poobahs and people are still out of town to the inauguration of the big Temple to Maharishi's Presence in India. Mostly just underlings here now. Dome numbers are generally subdued with people still traveling. Likely still some discovery going on. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is really a fabulous opportunity for the new movement to come forward and say,We are not that! and put good people in to those facilities with an expectation of good and honorable behavior from the whole movement. Make it clear. Make a break from the past. Even for the guy at the top. -Buck --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Interesting this comes out now. We were just talking here comparing TM and the Papists the other morning. Such synchrony. Pope Francis calls for action on clerical sex abuse http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22043312 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: I'm not sure people here are aware that there is a new sensitivity in India with regard to sexism, especially in Delhi, after this gang-rape case, which is still going on. The movement should go into quick action and fire him, otherwise the movement in India will be dead. Yep, movement on Women's rights seem happening everywhere. Women seek more Western Wall rights http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22103508 According to the newspaper accounts it is more than sexual harassment, 'twas molestation and predatory. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: In a modern world the TM-movement still does not have sexual harassment guideline for its employees and officers? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: Well, you know what they say... if it's got tits, tires, or testicles, there's gonna be trouble. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: This is extremely saddening and I feel very sorry for everyone around it now, for all the good people who work properly with extreme propriety to make things work well and achieve great things. This is disheartening sickening. She's a very brave person. He's a very powerful man. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: Maharishi Vidya Mandir chairman accused of molestation A married woman working as a teacher at Maharishi Vidya Mandir in Bhopalhttp://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Bhopal has filed a complaint against the chairman of Maharishi Vidya Mandir group of schools Girish Chandra Varma for molestation and mental torture. Varma has just been granted bail in a firing incident earlier this year at Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Ashram in Allahabad and came back to Bhopal couple of days ago. The woman filed a complaint to the State Women's Commission (SWC) alleging that Varma threatened that she and her husband, who also worked with the group, would lose their jobs if she failed to cooperate with him. The woman said that the accused used to insist her husband take her along on tours to other cities and countries. Each time, a five star hotel was booked with adjoining rooms. Varma would send her husband away on errands and then molest her. She did not say anything earlier fearing social ostracism but when it became too much to take, she told her husband and decided to file a complaint. There have been counter allegations that the husband had been trying to extort money from Varma since 2011 for a new house with claims that he sent various abusive e-mails and letters to Varma and maligned Varma's image on social networking sites.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Patanjali as a Quantum Physicist
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: Many of his thoughts in the Yoga Sutras can be related to the ideas in quantum physics today. In sutra III.45, he stated: Thence results the manifestation of the powers, such as atomization et cetera, perfection of the body and indestructibility of its constituents. Specifically, animan pertains the miniaturization of the body. But it could also cover the siddhi to see parts of the body, such as the details of the retina in the eyes. This specific siddhi is the prime example that the universe is based on consciousness. Even the dimensions of space and time are based on consciousness. If this is so, the higher dimensions theorized in physics are not curbed and hidden within space-time. Rather, these dimensions are the various vibrations relating to the states of consciousness in the human experience. In other words, the common experiences of waking, sleeping, and dreaming are part of the higher vibrations of the space-time continuum. In effect, all of nature, even a rock, experiences a form of waking, sleeping and dreaming. Ultimately, however, only the human physiology can experience Unity Consciousness. As such, it's fascinating to contemplate that the human being is the culmination of creation in the universe. That is a sad commentary on the universe, that it produced something like us, since most of us are defective and do not attain to the experience of unity even though the unity is there all the time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Symphony of the Soil film Thursday
Free Film Screening Thursday, April 11, 7:30pm Dalby Hall, MUM campus Drawing from ancient knowledge and cutting-edge science,Symphony of the Soil is an artistic exploration of the miraculous substance soil. Come explore the relationship of soil to water, the atmosphere, plants, animals, humans, and the most important environmental challenges of our time. Filmed on four continents, featuring esteemed scientists and working farmers and ranchers, Symphony of the Soil is an intriguing presentation that highlights possibilities of healthy soil creating healthy plants creating healthy humans living on a healthy planet. Deborah Koons Garcia has been making films for over 30 years. She received her MFA from the San Francisco Art Institute and owns and operates Lily Films, a production company based in Mill Valley, California. Her film, The Future of Food, premiered at Film Forum in New York City and has screened at theaters, film food and farming festivals all over the world. World renowned soil biologist and MUM sustainable living faculty collaborated on this film will be at the showing to talk about the film and answer questions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] new short video on TM and PTSD in African refugees
I know all the pro-TM'ers here will give me a ration of shit for saying so, but these results are far too good to be true - the one good thing about it is that if anyone is foolish enough to try to replicate the results, the DLF and its master the TMO will be shown to be the utter frauds they are - 50% reduction in symptoms in 30 days is complete bullshit. From: sparaig lengli...@cox.net To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] new short video on TM and PTSD in African refugees http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7wL-NHHy3k This could be the start of a major focus for the TM organization and the DLF. That study that showed 50% reduction in PTSD symptoms in 30 days, if it is replicated by non-TMers and accepted by the general scientific community, could make TM the -de facto_ standard for PTSD stress management. L
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:40 PM, seventhray27 steve.sun...@yahoo.comwrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: You are really getting desperate Steve, begging others to agree with your crap? Perhaps this may shed light on your behavior, read the funny captions - http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/ This is spectacularly apropos, therefore extremely funny. Humour is very much about the timing, as we all know. I had an image here, but it wouldn't transmit. It was titled Cowardice Actually Ann, I think this better describes a person who backs away from a challenge they have put forth with: A) The dog ate my homework (or a variation thereof) B) I am so past this discussion shortly after boldly declaring that they were going to back up a dubious accusation (that evidently that were not able to do. Rules of engagement state that someone who backs away from a fair fight, a fight that they have instigated, that certain labels apply. Not my rules. Sorry about that. Steve, are you crying? You sound like you are crying. Everything is fine. I still love you. Devi still loves you. All is well, my little child. I'm just trying to stop yourself from drowning - http://reasonsteveiscrying.tumblr.com/http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/post/47373448579/i-wouldnt-let-him-drown-in-this-pond On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: ** Just chillin here. Emily, do you mean to tell me that you find offense with a well crafted insult as Curtis has done below, but you give a pass to the garbage Ravi spews? I call that quadruple bullshit. My God, does the hypocrisy know no end here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: O.K. Â I'm back for the moment - I'm so unreliable - but I can't help myself. Â Curtis, you have outdone yourself, or maybe the word is undone yourself with your posts of today/yesterday. Â Magic Carpet Ride (Live) Â - You don't know what we can see. Enjoy. Â http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkP5gTX6Hc From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Â Any chance we can claim just one of the OC or D? If so, I would like to place dibs on obsessive because that is how I pursue all my interests (although I prefer passionate to describe my focus). That would allow Judy to claim compulsive which sounds about right for where she is on the spectrum. Of course no one should deny that the winner of disorder should rightfully be Robin. Even Robin might cop to that. Or he would let loose a word flood denial of it that would just prove the point definitely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 04/09/2013 07:25 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Like Judy, the guy is obsessed and it's fucking weird to watch... I also can't imagine still being impressed with Robins empty cult... Bhairitu: Yeah, I can't believe the adolescent hoo-ha gets the patients in the Funny Farm Lounge going. Guess we need to up their meds. ;-) Or, lower yours - there's hardly anything to read here in the first place, so anyone who posts something here is doing us a service. So, I'd like to say thanks to all the FFL informants. With MMY gone, the only comings and goings we can keep up with are a few of the locals and a couple of expats. Go figure. Some people just feel better when they have someone to talk to - you should understand this, living out in the back of beyond on the road to Erewhon. LoL! So you find petty adolescent squabbling of OCD types interesting? You must have a lot of fun on teen sites. :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
Hey Rav, I've been meaning to tell you this, and I will do so as tactfully as possible. You have lost your edge. Oh sure, there are still sparks of the old Ravi, but for the most part your routines have become pretty tired. I see that you are even using borrowed material on occassion. I can't decide if it's just because you've become battle worn (and even a little old), or if it's something more serious, such as a bad spat of lonliness. I think a fresh start might be called for. I am trying to visualize you with a western woman, but I'm not seeing it. I think generally speaking that she would be too strong for you. That Telegu Brahmin is so deeply ingrained, that I think you are going to have to stick to a Indian woman. Possibly an Asian, but I don't know. I know you pine for someone who has still has a propensity for a guru (preferably Amma), where you could play a counter weight for that. I think you like that dynamic. Probably titillates you. And there's nothing wrong with that. We all have our kinky sides. You know that I am your friend, and I am always ready to help you through any difficult times. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:40 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@...wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: You are really getting desperate Steve, begging others to agree with your crap? Perhaps this may shed light on your behavior, read the funny captions - http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/ This is spectacularly apropos, therefore extremely funny. Humour is very much about the timing, as we all know. I had an image here, but it wouldn't transmit. It was titled Cowardice Actually Ann, I think this better describes a person who backs away from a challenge they have put forth with: A) The dog ate my homework (or a variation thereof) B) I am so past this discussion shortly after boldly declaring that they were going to back up a dubious accusation (that evidently that were not able to do. Rules of engagement state that someone who backs away from a fair fight, a fight that they have instigated, that certain labels apply. Not my rules. Sorry about that. Steve, are you crying? You sound like you are crying. Everything is fine. I still love you. Devi still loves you. All is well, my little child. I'm just trying to stop yourself from drowning - http://reasonsteveiscrying.tumblr.com/http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/post/47373448579/i-wouldnt-let-him-drown-in-this-pond On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: ** Just chillin here. Emily, do you mean to tell me that you find offense with a well crafted insult as Curtis has done below, but you give a pass to the garbage Ravi spews? I call that quadruple bullshit. My God, does the hypocrisy know no end here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: O.K. Ãâ I'm back for the moment - I'm so unreliable - but I can't help myself. Ãâ Curtis, you have outdone yourself, or maybe the word is undone yourself with your posts of today/yesterday. Ãâ Magic Carpet Ride (Live) Ãâ - You don't know what we can see. Enjoy. Ãâ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkP5gTX6Hc From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Ãâ Any chance we can claim just one of the OC or D? If so, I would like to place dibs on obsessive because that is how I pursue all my interests (although I prefer passionate to describe my focus). That would allow Judy to claim compulsive which sounds about right for where she is on the spectrum. Of course no one should deny that the winner of disorder should rightfully be Robin. Even Robin might cop to that. Or he would let loose a word flood denial of it that would just prove the point definitely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 04/09/2013 07:25 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Like Judy, the guy is obsessed and it's fucking weird to watch... I also can't imagine still being impressed with Robins empty cult... Bhairitu: Yeah, I can't believe the adolescent hoo-ha gets the patients in the Funny Farm Lounge going. Guess we need to up their meds. ;-) Or, lower yours - there's hardly anything
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: You are really getting desperate Steve, begging others to agree with your crap? Perhaps this may shed light on your behavior, read the funny captions - http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/ This is spectacularly apropos, therefore extremely funny. Humour is very much about the timing, as we all know. I had an image here, but it wouldn't transmit. It was titled Cowardice Actually Ann, I think this better describes a person who backs away from a challenge they have put forth with: A) The dog ate my homework (or a variation thereof) B) I am so past this discussion shortly after boldly declaring that they were going to back up a dubious accusation (that evidently that were not able to do. Yes, I agree. Curtis did do this but that is fine. He wouldn't have been able to back up with any evidence that I in any way interfered with his discussions with Robin, or, in fact, had commented or engaged him or Robin about those discussion while they were going on. I was mute. So, unfortunately or fortunately, Curtis realized his error and backed away turning off the mic. That's the way it goes sometimes but I think everyone was tired of the discussion since it had nothing to do with my initial point anyway which was, what Steve? Do you even know what it was? Because Curtis and Barry didn't know, they just made stuff up. Or maybe I didn't explain myself clearly enough. But I'll repeat it just in case you speed read through what I kept saying. I said, if Curtis wants to engage, chooses to communicate with Robin then he should just do it. And as he does it he should stop complaining about how tiresome it is, or how word floody or mindfucking it is. In other words, he should either keep posting with this man who he feels wants to rant and fuck with his mind and stop complaining about it or cease communicating with someone who he feels is repetitious and tiresome. Common sense advice, don't you think? So Curtis ended the conversation with me this morning. It seemed to be going nowhere since he wasn't hearing what I was saying. It was a very simple point, one that a mother might say to a child or a friend to a friend, If you don't like talking to someone then stop talking to them. So Curtis stopped talking to me, ended the conversation. And Robin seems to have left for a while so he can't talk to him either. I don't think that makes Curtis a coward but it certainly saved us all from going around in circles. Rules of engagement state that someone who backs away from a fair fight fair on whose part? , a fight that they have instigated, that certain labels apply. Not my rules. Sorry about that. Yes, you are correct, he did instigate the fight but he backed away and now I am going to think about other things. Talking to a person who either is unable or unwilling to hear what one says becomes frustrating and tedious, don't you think? On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: ** Just chillin here. Emily, do you mean to tell me that you find offense with a well crafted insult as Curtis has done below, but you give a pass to the garbage Ravi spews? I call that quadruple bullshit. My God, does the hypocrisy know no end here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: O.K. Ã I'm back for the moment - I'm so unreliable - but I can't help myself. Ã Curtis, you have outdone yourself, or maybe the word is undone yourself with your posts of today/yesterday. Ã Magic Carpet Ride (Live) Ã - You don't know what we can see. Enjoy. Ã http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkP5gTX6Hc From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Ã Any chance we can claim just one of the OC or D? If so, I would like to place dibs on obsessive because that is how I pursue all my interests (although I prefer passionate to describe my focus). That would allow Judy to claim compulsive which sounds about right for where she is on the spectrum. Of course no one should deny that the winner of disorder should rightfully be Robin. Even Robin might cop to that. Or he would let loose a word flood denial of it that would just prove the point definitely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 04/09/2013 07:25 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Like
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@... wrote: Hey Rav, I've been meaning to tell you this, and I will do so as tactfully as possible. You have lost your edge. Oh sure, there are still sparks of the old Ravi, but for the most part your routines have become pretty tired. I see that you are even using borrowed material on occassion. I can't decide if it's just because you've become battle worn (and even a little old), or if it's something more serious, such as a bad spat of lonliness. I think a fresh start might be called for. I am trying to visualize you with a western woman, but I'm not seeing it. I think generally speaking that she would be too strong for you. That Telegu Brahmin is so deeply ingrained, that I think you are going to have to stick to a Indian woman. Possibly an Asian, but I don't know. I know you pine for someone who has still has a propensity for a guru (preferably Amma), where you could play a counter weight for that. I think you like that dynamic. Probably titillates you. And there's nothing wrong with that. We all have our kinky sides. This side of you doesn't become you Steve. You do better when you are genuinely yourself, not this mean guy. You know that I am your friend, and I am always ready to help you through any difficult times. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:40 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: You are really getting desperate Steve, begging others to agree with your crap? Perhaps this may shed light on your behavior, read the funny captions - http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/ This is spectacularly apropos, therefore extremely funny. Humour is very much about the timing, as we all know. I had an image here, but it wouldn't transmit. It was titled Cowardice Actually Ann, I think this better describes a person who backs away from a challenge they have put forth with: A) The dog ate my homework (or a variation thereof) B) I am so past this discussion shortly after boldly declaring that they were going to back up a dubious accusation (that evidently that were not able to do. Rules of engagement state that someone who backs away from a fair fight, a fight that they have instigated, that certain labels apply. Not my rules. Sorry about that. Steve, are you crying? You sound like you are crying. Everything is fine. I still love you. Devi still loves you. All is well, my little child. I'm just trying to stop yourself from drowning - http://reasonsteveiscrying.tumblr.com/http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/post/47373448579/i-wouldnt-let-him-drown-in-this-pond On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: ** Just chillin here. Emily, do you mean to tell me that you find offense with a well crafted insult as Curtis has done below, but you give a pass to the garbage Ravi spews? I call that quadruple bullshit. My God, does the hypocrisy know no end here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: O.K. Ãâ I'm back for the moment - I'm so unreliable - but I can't help myself. Ãâ Curtis, you have outdone yourself, or maybe the word is undone yourself with your posts of today/yesterday. Ãâ Magic Carpet Ride (Live) Ãâ - You don't know what we can see. Enjoy. Ãâ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkP5gTX6Hc From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Ãâ Any chance we can claim just one of the OC or D? If so, I would like to place dibs on obsessive because that is how I pursue all my interests (although I prefer passionate to describe my focus). That would allow Judy to claim compulsive which sounds about right for where she is on the spectrum. Of course no one should deny that the winner of disorder should rightfully be Robin. Even Robin might cop to that. Or he would let loose a word flood denial of it that would just prove the point definitely. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 04/09/2013 07:25 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Like Judy, the guy is obsessed and it's fucking weird to
[FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: Hey Rav, I've been meaning to tell you this, and I will do so as tactfully as possible. You have lost your edge. Oh sure, there are still sparks of the old Ravi, but for the most part your routines have become pretty tired. I see that you are even using borrowed material on occassion. I can't decide if it's just because you've become battle worn (and even a little old), or if it's something more serious, such as a bad spat of lonliness. I think a fresh start might be called for. I am trying to visualize you with a western woman, but I'm not seeing it. I think generally speaking that she would be too strong for you. That Telegu Brahmin is so deeply ingrained, that I think you are going to have to stick to a Indian woman. Possibly an Asian, but I don't know. I know you pine for someone who has still has a propensity for a guru (preferably Amma), where you could play a counter weight for that. I think you like that dynamic. Probably titillates you. And there's nothing wrong with that. We all have our kinky sides. This side of you doesn't become you Steve. You do better when you are genuinely yourself, not this mean guy. I am sorry to disappoint you Ann. That seems to go both ways. Perhaps you didn't like this advice to Ravi, but I stand by it, 100%. I think you've got some real mother hen tendencies, but the problem is that most of us have already flown the coop, and really don't need any advice in this regard. You know that I am your friend, and I am always ready to help you through any difficult times. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:40 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@wrote: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote: You are really getting desperate Steve, begging others to agree with your crap? Perhaps this may shed light on your behavior, read the funny captions - http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/ This is spectacularly apropos, therefore extremely funny. Humour is very much about the timing, as we all know. I had an image here, but it wouldn't transmit. It was titled Cowardice Actually Ann, I think this better describes a person who backs away from a challenge they have put forth with: A) The dog ate my homework (or a variation thereof) B) I am so past this discussion shortly after boldly declaring that they were going to back up a dubious accusation (that evidently that were not able to do. Rules of engagement state that someone who backs away from a fair fight, a fight that they have instigated, that certain labels apply. Not my rules. Sorry about that. Steve, are you crying? You sound like you are crying. Everything is fine. I still love you. Devi still loves you. All is well, my little child. I'm just trying to stop yourself from drowning - http://reasonsteveiscrying.tumblr.com/http://reasonsmysoniscrying.tumblr.com/post/47373448579/i-wouldnt-let-him-drown-in-this-pond On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM, seventhray27 steve.sundur@ wrote: ** Just chillin here. Emily, do you mean to tell me that you find offense with a well crafted insult as Curtis has done below, but you give a pass to the garbage Ravi spews? I call that quadruple bullshit. My God, does the hypocrisy know no end here. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: O.K. Ãâ I'm back for the moment - I'm so unreliable - but I can't help myself. Ãâ Curtis, you have outdone yourself, or maybe the word is undone yourself with your posts of today/yesterday. Ãâ Magic Carpet Ride (Live) Ãâ - You don't know what we can see. Enjoy. Ãâ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtkP5gTX6Hc From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Ãâ Any chance we can claim just one of the OC or D? If so, I would like to place dibs on obsessive because that is how I pursue all my interests (although I prefer passionate to describe my focus). That would allow Judy to
