[FairfieldLife] Re: TV-inspired rap: Some early "Top Of The Lake" impressions

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ultrarishi wrote: > > Stick with it. It's good. Most long form crime series pad out their stories with stuff, like the so called angry feminist element you speak of. However, misdirection is a key part of these dramas and the padding is the misdirection. W

[FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!

2014-02-11 Thread salyavin808
Did you watch the election video though, what a classic! Who knew that the Skem TMers had reduced the Mersyside crime rate by 60%? Nobody in Mersyside that's for sure! The funny thing is I worked for them and I voted for someone else! LOL. But they really thought they were going to win an

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TurquoiseB" wrote: > > Just for fun, since it appears that she's up at 2:00 AM again obsessing: > > Speaking of "poor memories," Barry never used the phrase "12,000-word > rant." That's a lie. The only person who has used that phrase, according > to the Yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
Just for fun, since it appears that she's up at 2:00 AM again obsessing: Speaking of "poor memories," Barry never used the phrase "12,000-word rant." That's a lie. The only person who has used that phrase, according to the Yahoo Search engine, is Judy Stein, in three separate posts today. Ops

[FairfieldLife] RE: More on Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread salyavin808
"Many of the council houses were unfilled, and the transcendental meditation movement http://news.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/plain/A794388 were looking for a location for their ideal village. Milton Keynes, suspicious of the organisation, had already denied them permission to build there." I was to

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV-inspired rap: Some early "Top Of The Lake" impressions

2014-02-11 Thread ultrarishi
Stick with it. It's good. Most long form crime series pad out their stories with stuff, like the so called angry feminist element you speak of. However, misdirection is a key part of these dramas and the padding is the misdirection. While I don't want to give any spoilers, the misdirection i

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
I just told you what I said. Why are you still misquoting me? And I wasn't talking about anything but his last series of posts, his last exchange with Curtis, in any case, what Barry dishonestly called a "12,000-word rant." He did write some long posts, but no single post was anywhere near th

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer

2014-02-11 Thread jr_esq
Lawson, Compared to the general American public, TMers can be considered as brahmins, or twice born, since all of us have gone through the initiation to the meditation tradition of Gurudev. But there are those TMers who have relinquished this title by words and actions. Also, by reason,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: are they still married and does he still do TM? No, they are no longer married and I don't think he still does TM, but he might. There was no major schism with either of them with regard to the Movement, I think they just took what they foun

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Yes, Rick invited him. He'd been posting comments on John Knapp's (now Mike Doughney's) TM-Free blog before that. And of course I never said he was writing "for posterity." And yes, that's my understanding, that he considered it an exercise

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer

2014-02-11 Thread LEnglish5
Maharishi's take on these things was often exactly what he heard from Gurudev. I've read comments from famous gurus/spiritual leaders in India who knew Gurudev and then heard Maharishi speak, and they basiclly said he did a good job of channeling his guru. And really, that is all he ever cla

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer

2014-02-11 Thread steve.sundur
I understand. I might suggest that there was a side of him that you missed. Whether it would have changed your outlook on him, I don't know. In general, I think that part of what he had to offer (namely some of the knowledge stuff) has pretty much been obscured. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogr

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread steve.sundur
I thought Judy said a few days ago, that the purpose of his extraordinarily long posts was to basically, "set the record straight" especially with regard to this interactions with Curtis. And yes, I can't believe we're still talking about this. On the other hand, I kind of wish that lit

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Jackson
are they still married and does he still do TM? On Wed, 2/12/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2014, 2:15 AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread steve.sundur
You live in a weird world Judy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I believe I said he wanted it (his final response to his last exchange with Curtis) "on the record," not that he was writing it "for posterity." Charming bit of anti-Robin spin, Stevie-boy. You also apparently

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Jackson
I have no idea - I just like this guy's writing about being Indian and that's about it. I have major doubts about M's knowledge - I am getting info recently that he was a master at getting info out of a variety of people and passing it off as his own. As to the esoteric nature of what is discuss

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
Yes, Rick invited him. He'd been posting comments on John Knapp's (now Mike Doughney's) TM-Free blog before that. And of course I never said he was writing "for posterity." And yes, that's my understanding, that he considered it an exercise for his own benefit, to interact with other TMers

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
I believe I said he wanted it (his final response to his last exchange with Curtis) "on the record," not that he was writing it "for posterity." Charming bit of anti-Robin spin, Stevie-boy. You also apparently missed what I said about the "12,000 words" including Curtis's contributions to th

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I admit, I found it awfully strange that when Robin first came on board he had that "wall of words" manner of writing. It seemed like a rather large blind spot on his part, since it made what he wrote almost unreadable. And I remember Barry

[FairfieldLife] RE: More British Bliss!

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Man, this is great stuff! I am sorry I never thought to follow the Movement in Ye Merrye Olde Englande before! http://twentyfirstfloormirror.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/yogi-flyers-and-the-1992-general-election/ http://twentyfirstfloormirror.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread steve.sundur
I admit, I found it awfully strange that when Robin first came on board he had that "wall of words" manner of writing. It seemed like a rather large blind spot on his part, since it made what he wrote almost unreadable. And I remember Barry 2 speaking up, and then Robin started breaking thin

[FairfieldLife] RE: More on Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
The quote of the year in this article has to be: Things to Do in Skelmersdale Skelmersdale is an excellent place to learn to drive, as there are numerous empty industrial estates to master stopping and starting. There are many roundabouts to practice on too, and most have very little traf

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: That is correct. My bad, and my most humble apologies to Barry. I only read the one paragraph, and since Barry demonizes both Ravi and Robin in very similar terms, I assumed he was referring to Robin. In their wildest dreams can anyone im

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: if this is too personal I understand - do you and sis ever talk about TM or the Movement? This format didn't totally allow me to see if you were asking me this question or not so I am guessing you addressed this to me, MJ. My sister and I ta

[FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer

2014-02-11 Thread steve.sundur
Hey Michael (or anyone else) I skimmed the article, but are you familiar with Maharishi's commentary about the first word of Rig Veda, "Agni"? And if so, do you think it's just a bunch of BS. This is not a trick question. I'm not saying that it was a stroke of genius. I'm not making any ju

[FairfieldLife] New study on TM and PTSD

2014-02-11 Thread LEnglish5
This is a new study on a new group of refugees in Uganda. It monitored the subjects for a whle before teaching TM and then at 2-weeks, 1 month, and 3 months, after learning. The original study did only one pre-test, and didn't do a 2-week post test. The new study isn't a controlled study, b

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
He rejected Catholicism years ago, as it happens, but thanks for the explanation. I think the end may have gotten cut off there--or did you go into an ecstatic state and lose outer awareness? ;-) << Right...if Robin is choosing Catholocism over ontological "Hinduism" (most of it); the word u

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread yifuxero
Right...if Robin is choosing Catholocism over ontological "Hinduism" (most of it); the word union has the meaning of being "one" with Jesus (not pure Consciousness) in an ecstatic state in which the Saint loses outer awareness and may be seen levitating. Examples: - St. John of the Cross and St

[FairfieldLife] RE: TM sneaking into the schools

2014-02-11 Thread LEnglish5
http://www.cwae.org/quiet_time_program.php " During Quiet Time, the students have the option to meditate or do another quiet, relaxing activity like sustained silent reading. All students and teachers are offered the opportunity to receive training in an evidenced-based relaxation and self-

Re: [FairfieldLife] House Passes Debt Ceiling Increase

2014-02-11 Thread jr_esq
Mike, The increase of jobs is also dependent on the Federal Reserve Board's Quantitative Easing (QE) policy. If the interest rates remain low, there's a good chance that the employers will borrow more money to increase their sales. As such, they also will hire more people to provide servic

Re: [FairfieldLife] House Passes Debt Ceiling Increase

2014-02-11 Thread Mike Dixon
So, I'm assuming that means there will be more jobs for the unemployed. Lets watch the jobs reports and see if this manifests. If we keep increasing the debt without increasing the number of people paying income taxes then we are just digging a deeper hole. On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 2:57

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Wed 12-Feb-14 00:15:04 UTC

2014-02-11 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 02/08/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 02/15/14 00:00:00 597 messages as of (UTC) 02/11/14 23:57:31 129 authfriend 79 awoelflebater 61 Richard J. Williams 59 steve.sundur 50 Share Long 33 TurquoiseB 28 Michael Jackson

[FairfieldLife] More British Bliss!

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Jackson
Man, this is great stuff! I am sorry I never thought to follow the Movement in Ye Merrye Olde Englande before! http://twentyfirstfloormirror.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/yogi-flyers-and-the-1992-general-election/

[FairfieldLife] WMC!

2014-02-11 Thread cardemaister
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Memory_Championships http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Memory_Championships

[FairfieldLife] More on Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Jackson
Do scroll down - there are some interesting tid-bits here. Skelmersdale, Lancashire, UK What's the difference between VD and a house in Skelmersdale? >You can get rid of VD. >- Old Lancashire Joke Situated in the bottom left-hand corner of the map of Lancashire, near Wigan, the small town of Ske

[FairfieldLife] House Passes Debt Ceiling Increase

2014-02-11 Thread jr_esq
This is a victory for the American people. And, the Dow Jones has responded positively by an increase of over one percent. http://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-debt-ceiling-increase-223219545--finance.html http://news.yahoo.com/house-passes-debt-ceiling-increase-223219545--finance.html

[FairfieldLife] 5 Tibetans!

2014-02-11 Thread cardemaister
Anyone lately practised 5 Tibetans? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Tibetan_Rites http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Tibetan_Rites

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread salyavin808
Oh, there's apparently enough for the TMO to claim the area is a model of social perfection, free of crime and anti-social behaviour and full of healthy and happy people. Complete bollox of course, unless you are only including those who live on the dome site, but when have they ever kept to

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
That is correct. My bad, and my most humble apologies to Barry. I only read the one paragraph, and since Barry demonizes both Ravi and Robin in very similar terms, I assumed he was referring to Robin. However, my distinct recollection is that in at least one of Robin's posts he either mentio

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Affordable, Fast Growing City in the US

2014-02-11 Thread Mike Dixon
Bohemian Texas. It's growing a little too fast for me. Traffic has become a ... well you know. On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:37 PM, Bhairitu wrote:   So you all set to move to Austin now?  California is going to get more and more expensive. On 02/11/2014 09:49 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wr

[FairfieldLife] RE: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread anartaxius
That December 9, 2011 post by Barry is discussing suicide in relation to Ravi, not Robin. Robin, as maskedzebra, was also a part of the thread. My comment here is only in relation to this one item in this post. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: This post is a superb example of why

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Jackson
if this is too personal I understand - do you and sis ever talk about TM or the Movement? On Tue, 2/11/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 11, 20

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Jackson
Hold up, Sal! How many yogic flyers are there per population in Skelmersdale, any idea? I ask becuz it doesn't seem possible that there could be heroin use that close to the enlivenment of natural law that is taking place in the Dome. Unless the numbers in the Dome are too low to make the regula

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Affordable, Fast Growing City in the US

2014-02-11 Thread Bhairitu
So you all set to move to Austin now? California is going to get more and more expensive. On 02/11/2014 09:49 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Austin, Texas tops the list. And, there is no state income tax. Who's going to move there? http://shine.yahoo.com/photos/6-most-affordable-fast-growing

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Statistics

2014-02-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/11/2014 10:39 AM, Share Long wrote: > Dreams are real in their own context. But they are delusions in a > larger context. > Dreams are real while we are dreaming, but unreal in the absolute sense. Dreams are not illusions in the sense of not being real because we do have dreams. The magic

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
Don't think so. He refers to both as Union; and I can't imagine he'd be saying it's OK to stop at GC and not go on to UC. << Judy, thank you so much for posting this quote. As for what Maharishi meant by "at its own level," I wonder if he was talking about the difference bt GC and UC. But li

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
Judy, thank you so much for posting this quote. As for what Maharishi meant by "at its own level," I wonder if he was talking about the difference bt GC and UC. But like he said, it's a sin against God to raise differences over the principle of union! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:14 PM,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Affordable, Fast Growing City in the US

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
Richard, I've seen other pictures of this lake, pictures in which the water looked a lovely shade of green and one could see all the way to the bottom. And last night, funnily enough, I dreamed of swimming in such clear, green water! Go figure! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 1:02 PM, Pundit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/11/2014 09:26 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when > there were all kinds of "cult leader" types I just blew them off. When > Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a me

Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/11/2014 10:35 AM, Share Long wrote: It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of one's relationship to God. > In the Advaita Vedanta which Robin practiced it is the ego that is the delusion, but this delusion was not caused by God, but by Maya through prakriti and

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
Good lord, no. Huge topic. Do some reading. It occurs to me that you may be unclear on what "ontological" means in this context. That's another huge topic. You need to do your own homework on this. Actually, Maharishi had something to say along these lines: "Fortunate are they who live

Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/11/2014 10:35 AM, Share Long wrote: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the real, genuine state of enlightenment. > All religious systems seem to come from the East, except Mormonism, which seems to have sprung from the mind of Moroni. But, the "enlightenment

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Anne, you could pay Skem a visit from Hebden bridge, it's due south west from there - just follow the rain clouds. The dome is in Ashurst which is the nice bit. Downhill from there is a drive thru MacDonalds and an Asda next to a dreary shoppin

[FairfieldLife] Growing fresh produce...underground...in London

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
This is actually a very cool project, and I wish them the best of luck with it... http://www.messynessychic.com/2014/02/11/london-has-a-subterranean-veggi\ e-farm-in-an-abandoned-wwii-bunker/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Affordable, Fast Growing City in the US

2014-02-11 Thread Pundit Sir
There is a lake in downtown Austin with a hike and bike trail that goes around the lake. [image: Inline image 1] Town Lake in Austin Hike and Bike Trail Yelp Review: http://www.yelp.com/town-lake-austin/ Town Lake Trail Run: htt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: People are beginning to catch on

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
It did at first, but after several long conversations, they became very close. << You and a few others couldn't stand that, couldn't stand the comparison. Robin posting to FFL seemed to really upset Ravi. Go figure. >>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Affordable, Fast Growing City in the US

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
http://www.city-data.com/forum/austin/ On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:21 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:   On 2/11/2014 11:49 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: > Austin, Texas tops the list. And, there is no state income tax. Who's > going to move there? > We are seriously thinking about movi

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread salyavin808
Anne, you could pay Skem a visit from Hebden bridge, it's due south west from there - just follow the rain clouds. The dome is in Ashurst which is the nice bit. Downhill from there is a drive thru MacDonalds and an Asda next to a dreary shopping centre on an industrial wasteland. Wear some stout

Re: [FairfieldLife] TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
Oh, found it, via Neo, believe it or not. On the Mail Archive, I'd specified a post by "maskedzebra," but by this time he'd switched to "Robin Carlsen," so it didn't turn up the post. Yes, it was unquestionably ironic. Your post to him had been pretty nasty, and he called you on it rather fo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Affordable, Fast Growing City in the US

2014-02-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/11/2014 11:49 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: > Austin, Texas tops the list. And, there is no state income tax. Who's > going to move there? > We are seriously thinking about moving back to Austin, somewhere out by Oak Hill, Dripping Springs, or Radiance, the TM Ideal Village, home of the Mah

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Taliban Readies 500 Female Suicide Bombers

2014-02-11 Thread jr_esq
Share, Yes, and those female planets are probably in conjunction with Rahu and Saturn. This is one of the main reasons why the Arab Spring occurred and is the most likely reason why changes will continue to occur in countries with oppressive laws that suppress human rights, like in Afghanis

Re: [FairfieldLife] Most Affordable, Fast Growing City in the US

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
Thanks for posting John. I'd have to find out that it's very walkable before I'd be willing to move there. There's a great forum for researching places: city-data People already living there share tons of useful info. On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:51 AM, "jr_...@yahoo.com" wrote:   A

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: People are beginning to catch on

2014-02-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/11/2014 1:01 AM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote: You and a few others couldn't stand that, couldn't stand the comparison. > Robin posting to FFL seemed to really upset Ravi. Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
"Now tell me you love me"--irony, Bhairitu, irony. Sheesh. BTW, to see what the context might have been, I just checked the (independent) Mail Archive site for all his posts addressing you, and I couldn't find any that had anything like the phrase "Now tell me you love me." And the only post

[FairfieldLife] Most Affordable, Fast Growing City in the US

2014-02-11 Thread jr_esq
Austin, Texas tops the list. And, there is no state income tax. Who's going to move there? http://shine.yahoo.com/photos/6-most-affordable-fast-growing-slideshow-131800350/#crsl=%252Fphotos%252F6-most-affordable-fast-growing-slideshow%252F-photo-2757618-010900356.html http://shine.yahoo.c

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Jackson
He's got some funny stuff on his blog - this is one of them On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 12:03 PM, "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com" wrote:   ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: http://neoindian.org/2011/06/16/why-you-should-read-the-vedas-and-why-the-religious-will-never-unders

Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
Judy, I was asking him to explain in the context of what he had written. And I found his dream analogy useful. On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:25 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:   Share, Richard doesn't know from shit what they mean. He'll just blab whatever comes to mind. And I've

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when > there were all kinds of "cult leader" types I just blew them off. When > Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message to break up > his wall of words as I

Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
Share, Richard doesn't know from shit what they mean. He'll just blab whatever comes to mind. And I've already explained, umpty times now, what I mean by them, as has Ann. Pretty silly to ask someone else. << Richard, what do you think these 2 sentences of Judy mean: >> Enlightenment reach

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
Judy, can you say in a nutshell what other kind of union with God there is, besides ontological? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 11:11 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:   You have to look carefully at the notion of "union with God" to know whether the phrase embraces ontological union. Fo

Re: [FairfieldLife] for your heart, drink water before going to sleep

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
Laughing hysterically. Me too. You would not believe the variety of fantastically elaborate toilet facilities I encounter in my dreams when I need to go to the bathroom. It's never my bathroom; it's always in the context of the setting of whatever dream I'm in the middle of. And all too frequent

Re: [FairfieldLife] TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread Bhairitu
I was raised to not let anyone bully me. So in the late 1960s when there were all kinds of "cult leader" types I just blew them off. When Robin showed up here you may recall I told him in a message to break up his wall of words as I felt that people might be interested in what he had to say.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
You have to look carefully at the notion of "union with God" to know whether the phrase embraces ontological union. For the Judeo-Christian-Islamic religions, that's a bridge too far, but the distinction can be subtle until you get really deep into the theology and examine the question very spec

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: On 2/11/2014 7:14 AM, salyavin808 wrote: > I don't like the vastu principle anyway, I think it's stupid and > illogical and the idea of nature support is a crock of shit. > Some people like to live in towns and villages where there is flat la

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/11/2014 7:14 AM, salyavin808 wrote: > I don't like the vastu principle anyway, I think it's stupid and > illogical and the idea of nature support is a crock of shit. > Some people like to live in towns and villages where there is flat land with streets aligned to a grid. This makes a lot of

[FairfieldLife] RE: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: http://neoindian.org/2011/06/16/why-you-should-read-the-vedas-and-why-the-religious-will-never-understand-them/ http://neoindian.org/2011/06/16/why-you-should-read-the-vedas-and-why-the-religious-will-never-understand-them/ That was fun, go

[FairfieldLife] Re: VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > http://neoindian.org/2011/06/16/why-you-should-read-the-vedas-and-why-th\ e-religious-will-never-understand-them/ In

[FairfieldLife] VERY interesting take on the vedas by an Indian writer

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Jackson
http://neoindian.org/2011/06/16/why-you-should-read-the-vedas-and-why-the-religious-will-never-understand-them/

[FairfieldLife] For those "I hate my job" days

2014-02-11 Thread TurquoiseB
I work at home, and love what I'm doing, so this doesn't apply to me. It also probably doesn't apply to many of the folks here who are either retired or love their jobs. But it's funny, so I pass it along anyway... [https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/q75/s720x720/162262\ 3_10151

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Statistics

2014-02-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/11/2014 7:08 AM, Share Long wrote: > ontological union between God and human is not possible. > When Robin experienced enlightenment he said that he floated in a kind of absolute "bliss" - he was able to witness his body move, as his "individuality" carried out its natural actions, but the

Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Richard, what do you think these 2 sentences of Judy mean: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the real, genuine state of enlightenment. ...It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of one's

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Statistics

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
Thanks Richard, I understand this. Using dreams is a good way to explain it. Dreams are real in their own context. But they are delusions in a larger context. Do you think that's what Robin meant about his enlightenment? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:34 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: for those who read the vastu article I posted here a couple times, the author said that the reality is vastu veda was different in different parts of India in the old days - apparently each author of the old vastu ved texts geared their recomme

Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
Richard, what do you think these 2 sentences of Judy mean: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the real, genuine state of enlightenment. ...It imposes a delusionary experience of oneself, of the world, and of one's relationship to God. On Tuesday, February 11,

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
I think all of these systems have sects, for example the Sufis in Islam, that believe that there can be union between God and human. Maybe also the Kabbalists in Judaism? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 10:22 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote:   You aren't disagreeing just with Robin, but

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Statistics

2014-02-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/11/2014 9:19 AM, Share Long wrote: > this sounds contradictory to me. How can something be genuine and > delusionary at the same time? > According to Robin, most people are in a dream state and mistake it for the real. What you have to do according to Robin is wake up from the dream. The A

Re: [FairfieldLife] for your heart, drink water before going to sleep

2014-02-11 Thread awoelflebater
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I need to drink more water. I usually have pleasant watery-like dreams when I'm well hydrated. "Watery dreams", I love the sound of that. Usually when I drink water or tea before bed all I dream about is having actually gotten up to go to th

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
You aren't disagreeing just with Robin, but with all of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, for which the notion of ontological union with God is blatantly heretical. You're entitled to your opinion that they're all wrong about that. << Judy, this "general impossibility" is where I disagree

Re: [FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 2/11/2014 9:32 AM, Share Long wrote: > To honor the possibility and actuality of a very, very high state of > human development. > The state of enlightenment is like a waking up to reality. You wake up from a dream state or from a deluded state of consciousness. Robin's, experience of enligh

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Taliban Readies 500 Female Suicide Bombers

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
John, I'd guess that they're from a country whose jyotish chart has a very afflicted Moon and or Venus. On Monday, February 10, 2014 2:18 PM, "jr_...@yahoo.com" wrote:   Share, As I've replied to MJ, the Taliban is using hate and revenge as the motivation for these women to become suic

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Country Chuckles

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
Richard, I love this guy! I bet he was enlightened (-: PS Maharishi said that at the deepest level of every atom, even every atom of our body, Purusha IS Prakriti. Go figure! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:14 AM, Pundit Sir wrote:   "Experience is something you don't get until just afte

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
I'm chuckling at Barry's posturing again because I just happened to look at my post to Seraphita again, and realized that I'd made my comment about Robin having been near suicide down in the second paragraph, well below the "first few 'Message View' words" of the post. Obviously Barry does care

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Jackson
for those who read the vastu article I posted here a couple times, the author said that the reality is vastu veda was different in different parts of India in the old days - apparently each author of the old vastu ved texts geared their recommendations to the place, geography, climate, social cl

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Skelmersdale

2014-02-11 Thread Michael Jackson
Ah ha! Now we know why you are agin TM - you have a south facing veranda Don't the folks in that place know how to git them some curtains or drapes or blinds or some such so they won't have to peer at each other through their windows? On Tue, 2/11

Re: [FairfieldLife] for your heart, drink water before going to sleep

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
Mike, they say that coconut water is very hydrating and higher in potassium than bananas. I drink a cup every evening before dinner. Plus it's yummy! On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 9:07 AM, Mike Dixon wrote:   I need to drink more water. I usually have pleasant watery-like dreams when I'm

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
Judy, this "general impossibility" is where I disagree with Robin. As I say in the rest of my post. I think, based on my reading of what people have written, I think ontological union with God or life has occurred in some individuals. I realized this morning that in the context of this discussi

[FairfieldLife] RE: enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
Robin was talking about the enlightenment Maharishi describes. Don't know what he'd say about other types of "very, very high states of human development," except for the general impossibility of ontological union with God (per the doctrines of the Judeo-Christian religions). << I think enlig

[FairfieldLife] enlightenment has occurred

2014-02-11 Thread Share Long
I think enlightenment, or a very, very high state of human development, and without delusion or possession, has occurred in Native Americans, shamans, tantrics, Taoists, Buddhists, Sufis, Christians, Jews and atheists. I think it included "ontological union" with what some people call God, but

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Statistics

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
As I said: Once you figure it out, get back to me. It shouldn't be that difficult, even for you. << Judy, this sounds contradictory to me. How can something be genuine and delusionary at the same time? >> Judy wrote: Enlightenment reached by Eastern systems is, according to Robin, the r

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV's "The Following" as a treatise on NPD and psychopathy

2014-02-11 Thread authfriend
Oh, too bad, then you missed my catch of the huge blooper you made concerning Robin having been "near suicide." Not to mention the others I identified. And sorry to tell you, I don't put the same value on "original posts" that you do. I'm much more interested in interaction than showing off.

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