From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 6:40 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Alien Earths Could be Weird
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Barry,
You said: "My version is: "God is a crutch for those who can't handle
What will Obama do with this new development?
http://news.yahoo.com/report-israel-airstrikes-hit-lebanon-syria-border-225041984.html
http://news.yahoo.com/report-israel-airstrikes-hit-lebanon-syria-border-225041984.html
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Barry,
You said: "My version is: "God is a crutch for those who can't handle the
infinite wonder of reality."
Your statement appears to say that you know what reality is. How do you know
what is reality?
John, Barry loves to seek out
Yep, like a chimpanzee eventually typing Shakespeare.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
that's pretty good Doc
On Mon, 2/24/14, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife]
Er, this isn't what I said. I never said anything one way or the other about
the union of Christ with the Father. Jesus Christ is a special case in that
regard as a member of the Holy Trinity. I wouldn't attempt to elucidate the
nature of the Holy Trinity. My remarks have been only about the he
http://www.helpersoftheholysouls.com/purgatoryqa.htm
http://www.helpersoftheholysouls.com/purgatoryqa.htm
.
Lack of time doesn't allow me to go into this further but offhand, I'd say
that the whole concept of sin in RC theology has serious flaws, the moe serious
being limited in scope. A more
For diehard TM TB, sorry, but you're way off the mark when stating (like Deepak
Chopra), that the "True" version of Christianity is basically the "Essence" or
Gnostic version. That is, that the "true" teachings of Jesus were essentially
Gnostic (as in the Gospel of Thomas); but simply squashed
Note: the expression "Holy Souls" in this context refers to those in Purgatory,
having a degree of Holiness combined with varying degrees of the need for
further purification; but the term "purification" has different meanings than
the same term in Buddhism (and what is called "Hindu" practices
Barry,
You said: "My version is: "God is a crutch for those who can't handle the
infinite wonder of reality."
Your statement appears to say that you know what reality is. How do you know
what is reality?
Xeno,
You said: "The following link is to a page where the attempt is made to
explain, or at least illuminate the idea of creation from 'nothing' without a
god. I debate the sentence 'It takes a Knower to conceive of space and time'.
It takes a mind to conceive of space and time. A 'knower' m
Bhairitu,
You said: "But then their is Jr's interest in finding other humanoid species
to communicate with. What about learning to communicate with the other
intelligent species we have right here on earth? We know that dolphins and
whales are very intelligent and I don't think they are ou
Yeah, but is it *organic*? Oh wow! Maharishi vedic organic soylent green!
On Monday, February 24, 2014 4:31 PM, Michael Jackson
wrote:
Not if we start eating soylent green
On Mon, 2/24/14, Bhairitu wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bi
I am very ignorant about these things. Are there really laser type weapons and
how can I see about they are?And who developed them?
On Mon, 2/24/14, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails
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I'm thinking that nature will take care of any over population and as usual,
the strongest/smartest will survive. If man tries to take care of it, it will
all end up being based on politics and then the human race will really be
screwed.
On Monday, February 24, 2014 12:46 PM, Bhairitu wrote
This suggestion is so inappropriate.
Our members driving this very thread are the sheer eh-pee-tomee-s of
deification. After all we’re all the apex of evolution. The space bro’s visit
us just to admire us. Apparently the "word" is out.
Ca Ca Can’t we jus’ jus' get along?
Willy sez:
Maybe
We are pouring millions of tons of exhaust into the atmosphere annually. Who
needs a chem trail? A couple of other things -
1. You don't want to mess with jet fuel - Branson, Virgin Airways CEO,
announced a plan to fly a 747 on bio-fuel, at least five years ago - hasn't
happened yet, because it
that's pretty good Doc
On Mon, 2/24/14, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 24, 2014, 10:26 PM
As it relates to the earlier discussion about radiating unconditional love,
such a saint would be fully aware of both the bliss, and the great physical
pain, and the source of each. Maybe it is then like stubbing your toe, while
your child is running towards you, for a hug. The hug still happens
The following link is to a page where the attempt is made to explain, or at
least illuminate the idea of creation from 'nothing' without a god. I debate
the sentence 'It takes a Knower to conceive of space and time'. It takes a mind
to conceive of space and time. A 'knower' might be conceived of
Easy -- start counting off by twos. Then the 'twos' kill all the 'ones'. Repeat
as necessary, and *no* cutting in line...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
OK, we need suicide volunteers to bring plant earth populations down under 2
billion. How are we going to do this?
On Mo
You still aren't including the previous post!
Space is a conceptual construct huh? So there was no planet earth wheeling its
way through space before the people on it perceived it? That makes everything
else a bit tricky, little matters like evolution must be a fraud.
Quantum tunnelling wo
Salyavin,
Without space and time, nothing will exist, hence no matter. By logical
reasoning, you can understand that space is a conceptual construct, such as the
idea of length, width and height. It takes a Knower to conceive of space and
time. As such, how is it possible for nothing or ev
Since we are privileged to have a Bhopal /India resident here now at our FFL
forum wouldn't it be interesting to know Sanyam's opinion about Girish case and
latest news? And as astronomer with "spritual leaning" Sanyam opinion about
"Maharishi Yagya", Girish were paramount - the divine prime m
Not an everyday occurrence in Bhopal:
Bhopal: Bride gives birth to child right during her wedding ceremony
Shahroz Afridi, Hindustan Times Bhopal, February 22, 2014
When a bride gave birth to a child right during her wedding ceremony, the kin
of both the bride and groom as well as community me
Dear Sanyam Shrivastava seeker or finder of truth and liberation!
Welcome to the slim bright shining curl of our companion world at FFL
mysterious grace of moon
you may lights a fire anytime in our remembering places at FFL.
Topics and basic discussions covered in this group are quite beautiful
Jedi,
If you're a TMer you'll understand transcendental consciousness can be
achieved and experienced by anyone. And that one can experience TC along with
the waking, dreaming and sleeping consciousness.
If you read the Shiva Sutras, the slokas are also talking about the same
experienc
An inside look at who's watching you, what they know and why it matters. We
are being watched.
[image: Inline image 1]
We see online ads from websites we've visited, long after we've moved on to
other interests. Our smartphones and cars transmit our location, enabling
us to know what's in the nei
Back in the 1970s the population had reached 3 billion. I recall at the
time much of the chatter at the SCI class was about the Club of Rome's
"Limits to Growth". I think we could achieve population equity without
killing off folks. But history tends to repeat itself and collectively
humani
On 2/24/2014 10:40 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I was thinking of the quote Judy originally made about not discussing
> anything with me, and Judy was probably thinking of the quote she
> subsequently made when she responded to me (where she tried to worm
> around not being able to respond
Yes, this is the post I was referring to. I have a hand written note that has
the correct post number, but in my post, I got the digits transposed when I
typed it. You win this one, hands down, though the original matter behind this
exchange remains unchanged. If you are curious, the phrase, 'ha
Yo Sanyam, greetings!
Astronomer eh? Is this your job or an armchair passion like it is with me?
Whichever it is you will find plenty of people here with opinions on cosmology
and spirituality. The range of opinion is wide but that's what makes it
interesting.
You can start a conversation
Since we are privileged to have a Bhopal/India resident here now at our FFL
forum wouldn't it be interesting to know Sanyam's opinion about Girish case and
latest news? And as astronomer with "spritual leaning" Sanyam opinion about
"Maharishi Yagya", Girish were paramount - the divine prime mo
One more time: Classical theists do not believe in God as "a being," good or
bad. They believe in God as Beingness Itself.
Could you elaborate on that please?
"Classical theists say that God wills the good of
the creatures. Human beings, however, do not
always will their
OK, we need suicide volunteers to bring plant earth populations down under 2
billion. How are we going to do this?
On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:32 AM, Bhairitu wrote:
The first time I ever heard or read about this was back in the late 60s or
early 70s when there were stories about c
Remember dancing to this at some wild party in the woods, out of my head on
several illegal but highly entertaining substances. Good times. I learnt TM a
year later and became a good little boy. Glad I did the psychedelic thing first
though...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdMs7eqMvNg
http:
Hence the moniker *Dufus*.
Let's hope you are right that there is no covert govnt. operation to alter the
weather. Of course the grave pollution is bad enough and involve all of us all
over the planet. According to Benjamin Crème we have less that 15 years to
reverse the serious imbalance caused by ourselves if we want to
Comcast and Netflix reached an agreement where Netflix will be paying
Comcast to carry their feed unobstructed or un-throttled. This is a dark
day for Americans and particularly FFL'ers who are enjoying Net
Neutrality. It won't take long for the other telecom crime syndicates
to begin extortio
Space is where matter lives, it's what dimensions like length or depth give
us. Time is the arrow of entropy, the way in which matter in the universe
interacts. Without matter there would be no time, just as there was no space
before the big bang that started the whole thing off. What came be
Dude, can you press the message history button at the bottom of the reply box
before you post or I won't know what post you are commenting on.
But whatever it was, making arguments against a theory is fine, especially if
you know something about it or know where someone else has gone wrong
Doc, I agree that all this stuff resides in the physiology and arises from
there. But then I remember reading about saints who were in bliss but also
great physical pain. Any thoughts about that?
On Monday, February 24, 2014 1:02 PM, "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com"
wrote:
Beliefs in l
Beliefs in limitations don't arise, unless the limitation is evident within
oneself. Similarly, a belief in one's unlimited ability doesn't arise, unless
the ability within oneself is present - latent, perhaps, but present.
So, although we all enjoy 'owning' our beliefs, even arguing for them, an
What you quoted from MMY contradicts all that I read about
yoga and philosophy by other authors, some of them much
older than MMY. In samadhi, you trancend everything
including spatial dimensions.
> --- John wrote:
>
> Jedi, >
> How do you know that you're saying is correct and that MM
There isn't any current program run by the US govt. to alter our weather, if
that is what you asking. We are simply overwhelming the ecosystem, without any
dedicated intervention - that old stat about people in the US being 5% of the
world population, but using up 25% of its resources, is coming
Jedi,
How do you know that you're saying is correct and that MMY is wrong? Who is
the source of your information?
And, no, I'm not the old do.rflx.
Nah, they'll come up with "The Science Diet for Humans" with taco
flavor, pizza flavor and maybe even curry flavor.
On 02/24/2014 09:51 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
Not if we start eating soylent green
On Mon, 2/24/14, Bhairitu wrote:
Subject: Re: [
Could you elaborate on that please?
"Classical theists say that God wills the good of
the creatures. Human beings, however, do not
always will their own good, or the good of other
people. In those cases, on the classical view, God
brings it about that people
Salyavin,
You are making arguments against a theory. We'll find the true answer when
the theory is proved correct or incorrect.
Salyavin,
How do you suppose that space/time was created in the universe? Do you
believe that a random quantum fluctuation created this concept? I'll explain
my ideas after I get your responses to the questions above.
You are absolutely right, Buck and I think the third option you mention is the
best of all. Thank you for saying it again.
On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:38 AM, "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com"
wrote:
Dear MJ,
You paint with way too broad a brush and with too much paint. You are
being way t
Actually, Barry, it's Xeno who has been "stalking" me. I made it very clear
what I would and would not do where Xeno was concerned (quoted below) unless he
either retracted his false accusations or documented them (which he couldn't do
because they were, duh, false). Xeno and Barry have both mis
Let's see whether batshit crazy Judy can admit that the *only* thing wrong with
Xeno's statement is the message number. :-)
In other words, she's jumping through all these hoops just to avoid admitting
that she is stalking a person who she swore she would never discuss anything
with again unti
Let's see if Xeno can admit to his whopping error (or "direct unvarnished lie")
instead of trying to blame it on me.
He wrote:
<< 'In post #358357, 22 September 2013 you said:
Why don't you fuck off? I'm not going to discuss anything with you until
you've documented your accusations, or
Not if we start eating soylent green
On Mon, 2/24/14, Bhairitu wrote:
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Bill Gates Admits to Chemtrails
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 24, 2014, 5:44 PM
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
turq, short answer: I believe Mary existed as a real person. Long answer:
having been raised Catholic, I find the Mary topic fascinating. And worth
questioning if only to benefit the psychological health of girls who wonder if
they too will be a
The first time I ever heard or read about this was back in the late 60s
or early 70s when there were stories about chemtrails in the alternative
press like the L.A. FreePress and Berkeley Barb. It is supposedly a
classified program but we are getting leaks about it. I've seen
airliners at the
Rodriguez was early to embrace the use of HD cameras (introduced to him
by George Lucas) and hence free up the cumbersome process of
filmmaking. His productivity spurred other directors into inquiring
what he was doing and he mentioned he was enjoying making films again
because of HD.
So spe
Xeno's error is indeed in the previous posts, and I have already pointed it out
in those posts. Thanks to Ann as well for making it impossible for Xeno to
continue to try to blame the error on me by simply ignoring what I had told him
(in the post quoted below, for one).
Ann, you are right. I
noozguru, I like what you say here, but probably can only intelligently comment
on a bit of it. Anyway, I read years ago that dolphins and whale carry the
secret of time travel in their DNA. I love that idea, even if it hasn't been
scientifically validated.
What I've noticed the past few years
Well, Ann, I find it fascinating to ruminate about all this. For a short while
(-:
Many spiritual teachers talk about the need to get rid of the ego. I'm just
expressing a different view based on contemporary psychology. I could be wrong
and or it's probably just a matter of semantics.
On M
I could have answered this last night but as I often do decided to see
how others responded to the idea or your question. My immediate
response would have been the same as salyavin's: it gets us to reality.
But then their is Jr's interest in finding other humanoid species to
communicate with.
But Doc, is it conditioning that is preventing unconditional love. Or is it the
belief that conditioning is preventing unconditional love that is the real
culprit?!
PS I find David Deida to be a very profound thinker so I take to heart what he
says.
On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:20 AM, "do
Ann, you are right. I am showing slight signs of dyslexia these days. So this
mess is my fault. Thanks for pointing this out. I have not gone over the
previous posts, but if the error is in those as well, my apologies to Judy.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
---In Fairfield
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Richard, I think we got our signals crossed. I was thinking of the quote Judy
originally made about not discussing anything with me, and Judy was probably
thinking of the quote she subsequently made when she responded to me (where she
tried to w
On 2/24/2014 9:56 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> Obama's tendency to give the bankers, hedge fund managers and energy
> companies anything they want?
>
Has it been established that Obama has a tendency to give the bankers,
hedge fund managers and energy companies anything they want?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Neo appears to have eaten my first try at a response, so here goes again...
From Xeno's post:
And he got the number of the post he quotes wrong (deliberately?). Here's the
right one:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/co
Richard, I think we got our signals crossed. I was thinking of the quote Judy
originally made about not discussing anything with me, and Judy was probably
thinking of the quote she subsequently made when she responded to me (where she
tried to worm around not being able to respond to me without
On 2/23/2014 10:09 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> He says the violence is part of a strategy devised by right-wing groups
>
"Now the Sochi Games are over, Western governments are concerned the
smile will disappear and the gloves come off in Russia's tug-of-war with
Europe over the fate of Ukraine.
On 2/23/2014 10:04 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
> you are trying to say the protesters were sidhas?
>
How else do you account for the fact that the Orange Revolution in
Ukraine was mostly non-violent? From what I've read, there are hundreds
if not thousands of TMers in Ukraine and other parts of
you're full of it Buck, its a straight on question. Fact: The TMO took credit
for Obama's election. Does that then mean that the TMO needs to take credit for
what Obama does while in office like Obama's tendency to give the bankers,
hedge fund managers and energy companies anything they want?
Y
Welcome, Sanyam. There are others here who are fascinated by astronomy and
cosmology, even jyotish!
It's like a banquet table full of wonderful foods. It's possible to enjoy what
you like and leave the rest for someone else.
On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:30 AM, Sanyam Shrivastava
wrote:
Neo appears to have eaten my first try at a response, so here goes again...
From Xeno's post:
And he got the number of the post he quotes wrong (deliberately?). Here's the
right one:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/358537
https://groups.yahoo.c
Nablusoss, I was raised Catholic and taught that Jesus is second Person of the
Trinity. I don't think about it much anymore but I guess it's still there in
the old chit (-:
On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:35 AM, nablusoss1008
wrote:
No one is the mother of God. Why do you think God has
On 2/24/2014 8:31 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
So the statement above that I quoted the wrong quote is a direct
unvarnished lie, unless you admit to having made a mistake.
>
So, let's set the record straight: which is the correct quote?
Interesting indeed. Does this mean you do not believe the American government
is spraying with chemicals, that the whole chem-trail business is simply
paranoia ?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Exactly where the people who prefer to believe in God and Woo Woo never want
to go.
What I've never understood is why so many people react so strongly to being
considered what they are -- insignificant and ordinary. Seems to me that's the
ve
Dear MJ,
You paint with way too broad a brush and with too much paint. You are being
way too myopic and out of touch with TM. There are times when the world asks
ordinary men to do extraordinary things. “Which would you rather experience:
living the paradox or understanding it to your satisfac
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! It will be interesting see who tells you what - its supposed
to be a wide ranging forum for discussion of pretty much everything especially
spirituality. But since the group was created by Rick Archer a former TM
teacher much of the discussions revolve around transcendental me
Cloud seeding with silver iodide has been going on for decades, without much
concern. The reason we are in a drought is due directly to global warming,
probably aided by our huge population growth, and consequent (warm) pollution.
We have a high pressure zone sitting on top of California, which
No one is the mother of God. Why do you think God has a mother ? Mary is the
mother of Jesus from Nazareth, a senior Master in the Hierarchy of Masters.
Thanks for posting that Nabby - its very interesting and contains a perfect
description of the TM True Believers:
“Ever steeped in the darkness of ignorance, yet considering themselves wise and
learned, the fools go round and round, staggering to and fro like the blind led
by the blind.”
--
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
You understand that you're talking about a fictional character, right?
You may be right but the place that you're asserting this from is wrong, as
usual.
From: Share Long
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Monday, February 24
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
"A particular discussion of which I am part" = one of Xeno's repeated attempts
to force me to respond to him so he can accuse me of "lying" when I said what
he quotes (an utterly absurd canard he picked up from Barry).
His twisted, malevolent
Greetings all,
I am Sanyam shrivastava, a new member in the family. I am from Bhopal, in
India. I practice regular meditation, and to a large scale, have attained third
eye meditation. I am an Astronomer, but at the same time i am into
Spirituality. I know that sounds contradictory.
Anyway, i
http://www.hinduhistory.info/swami-vivekanandas-encounters-with-christian-missionaries/
http://www.hinduhistory.info/swami-vivekanandas-encounters-with-christian-missionaries/
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Thanks, Ann. I tend to come from a perspective of psychological health is
good. But I know one spritual teacher, David Deida, who though he thinks it's
good too, also thinks that people can love unconditionally even if they're
totally screwed up
Who, then, is doing the unconditional loving, in those cases? It is a very
strange thing to assert, since it is conditioning which prevents unconditional
love, in the first place. Perhaps he is merely mentioning the old saw, to not
wait for full enlightenment, to begin living a full life, and th
Indeed it is. It seems aluminum is the most "important" ingredient in the
chemtrail, yet the Californians wonder why they are stricken with drought. Like
the Americans say: Go figure !
--- Begin Message ---
Monday, February 24, 2014
FP's Situation Report: Hackers may have snagged credit card #s from Pentagon employees
It's a big budget day at the Pentagon. Today Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel unveils a $496 billion budget almost exactly a year afte
It's also worth mentioning that the historical Jesus and The Christ are two
different persons, a huge misunderstanding fuelled by the ignorance of
Church-leaders. According to esoteric information Jesus was indeed born
naturally like everyone else by Mary who had the point degree of evolution of
Could you cite some examples?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Not classical theists.
The tremendous wastage in the evolutionary process should make the ID
theorists and Theists realise that their
beliefs are bullshit.
I am talking about what are commonly known as classical theists, the mainstream
theologians from Aristotle to very recent times.
You are talking about the impersonalistic theists.
> --- authfriend wrote:
>
> Actually, classical theists (about the only theologians who were around "of
> ol
"A particular discussion of which I am part" = one of Xeno's repeated attempts
to force me to respond to him so he can accuse me of "lying" when I said what
he quotes (an utterly absurd canard he picked up from Barry).
His twisted, malevolent dishonesty is quite amazing in a person who has
pu
All that we actually know is, if Jesus was an actual person, then he had a
mother. There are no contemporary references to Jesus. The earliest writings
that mention him are the letters of Paul, which are thought to have been
written about 50 CE and he does not mention Jesus' mother. The Gospels
You are talking about the impersonalistic theists.
> --- authfriend wrote:
>
> Actually, classical theists (about the only theologians who were around "of
> old") would have been wowed by the latest cosmological knowledge, but they
> wouldn't have felt their theism to be the least bit thr
that is really scary.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
http://csglobe.com/bill-gates-admits-chemtrails/
http://csglobe.com/bill-gates-admits-chemtrails/
Not classical theists.
The tremendous wastage in the evolutionary process should make the ID
theorists and Theists realise that their
beliefs are bullshit.
Actually, classical theists (about the only theologians who were around "of
old") would have been wowed by the latest cosmological knowledge, but they
wouldn't have felt their theism to be the least bit threatened by it.
The total perspective vortex that cosmology has turned into would have sh
Nature throws a wide range of mutations into the
environment. Many fail to make it, in the process, but some
always survive.
This gives evolution the versatility and the flexibility to
deal with the capricious and erratic, fluctuations in the
environment.
The tremendous wastage in the evolu
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