[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-25 Thread RoryGoff
If I may interject here, AAB -- AFAIK I am neither MZ, nor William of Occam -- but just for the record, I also found at a certain point that CC, GC, and UC were both experienceable at will and were essentially ephemeral: that is, they too were simply experiences which had a beginning and an

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-25 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: snip Perhaps not coincidentally, it was RC himself who in confronting me delivered one of the coups-de-grace which finally shook Us loose from

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-25 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Thank you Rory, nice to have you back ! My pleasure, nablusoss. And thank you again for that great soma-shower! :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone who thinks Lady Gaga is anything but nonsense needs a checking !

2011-06-25 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone who thinks Lady Gaga is anything but nonsense needs a checking !

2011-06-25 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Are you wearing that steak, Alex? Nah, I'm wearing the grisly dead fibers of poor, innocent cotton plants. And, burgundy velvet Prada

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-26 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: I think all Maharishi was doing was taking the idea of Unity Consciousness to its logical conclusion, complete Unity, complete Oneness, complete

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-26 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Dear Rory, I should have included you in those here in the know of Enlightenment. But you tend to use a lot of words, a LOT of words ! Wow! And here I was thinking I was being nice and succinct! Always room for

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-26 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip I know Michael Dean Goodman isn't exactly popular here, but boy, we could use

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-26 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: In Unity, who is it who has this control? From a personal perspective, we do. One thing I've noticed about stabilized states of consciousness is

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-26 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Dear Rory; what is a I-particle ? Dear Nablusoss; succinctly, an I-particle is an ego, a wave on the ocean of Us, a being believing it exists as a separate entity in spacetime. We collapse into them constantly; every

[FairfieldLife] Re: So who is Jay Lathom? Is that a pseudonym?

2011-06-26 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: snip Rory, Ravi and now RC, OTOH, figure the more words they throw at you the more you'll lap it up. Dear Tom, I feel I know you well enough by now to be pretty sure you won't lap up anything I say, no matter how many or

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-26 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Dear Rory; what is a I-particle ? Dear Nablusoss; succinctly, an I-particle is an ego, a wave on the ocean of Us, a being believing it exists

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Very interesting, thanks for taking the time to post this ! You certainly take my good old brain-cells out for a spin ! * * My pleasure, Nablussos! Correct me if I'm wrong, but does this mean you view the Crop

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-27 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: I wish I could claim to understand even a fraction of what you write now Rory, but no. :-) * * Ah, well... maybe in a Now which comes later! :-) But then again you already wrote this: new chakras singing themselves

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie Review

2011-06-28 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: OK, here's a rare Turq review of a film that isn't a horror/scifi/comedy gem like Paul or Tucker Dale vs Evil. It's not an arthouse classic like In Bruges or Doubt and it's not an undiscovered masterpiece that nobody

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-28 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Sal, My only recent disappointment, with this thread, has been your absence. I'm now, with your help, nearing fulfilment although I'm going to resist any sense of oneness with anyone cause frankly, I just don't have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-28 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote: Thank you for the great rap on Blues history Curtis. It is interesting, informative,

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-28 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Are these tricks commonplace on FFL? Just need to know what I'm getting in to. Alternatively, are these accusations commonplace on FFL. Just need to know what I'm getting in to. A Reader beware posting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?

2011-06-29 Thread RoryGoff
Yep, well said. Personally, just for fun, I like to try on all the goggles at the same time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Sitting in a cafe on the Grand Place in Brussels, sipping a fine Trappist beer, I find myself pondering the above question.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-29 Thread RoryGoff
Great stuff, Curtis, as always. Happy Birthday, man. May this next year bring you all the love and warmth and delight you could possibly desire. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: So I'm walking to the dome trying to keep my cashmere shawl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Thanks for the blessing Rory. I think of birthdays as a good time to ask myself, What can I do differently this year to make next year better? Of course being the nonspiritual cretin that I am, most of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are SOCs the Beer Goggles of the universe?

2011-06-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: Careful, dude. You can't *imagine* the flack I got here once for suggesting that being stuck in one SOC at a time was lame. Multi-tasking is SO much more interesting. Ha! Yeah, I especially love it when they all cancel

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-29 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: (But for the record I wasn't wishing to make you a better person I didn't take it that way brother, it was all me going off on my own

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-30 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: Neither Tom. They are from the Ravi Sutras, Part I. Good reading. He uses modern terms to elucidate many of the pitfalls one may encounter

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-06-30 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@ wrote: [snip] What is the proof of the truth of this judgment of you? That you will manifest not the slightest bewilderment, confusion, wonder,

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-01 Thread RoryGoff
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 6:49 PM, maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote: Dear Tom, Just to clear one thing up. I never paid any attention to post counts, because I never knew anything about limits. I probably should have; no doubt I was sent this information. But if ignorance is

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-01 Thread RoryGoff
Dear Robin, What a beautiful letter from a beautiful soul; the clarity and integrity of your love feels as sweet and gently pervasive as ever -- moreso even. I never dreamed you would someday read my account of our interaction; what an odd feeling of self-recognition that is! And the occult

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-01 Thread RoryGoff
(Perhaps St. Thomas of Aquinas really meant shit when he called his writings straw after some kind of an intellectual gut-punch, evisceration or death. Perhaps in the heart of the incomprehensible Divine's unconditional love, shit is exactly the same as crystal and gold. And perhaps the

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-01 Thread RoryGoff
@... wrote: Rory, As always, thanks for your input and as usual I think you're on to something. In eastern dream interpretation doesn't shit symbolize money? From: RoryGoff rorygoff@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 11:21:53 AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: another question for MZ, and maybe William of Occam

2011-07-02 Thread RoryGoff
effortless sense to me, I am curious about your take on brown. Oh, and this is as one pseudo spacetime particle to another, over and out. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Dear Robin, What a beautiful letter from a beautiful soul; the clarity and integrity

[FairfieldLife] Re: photo of an Enlightened person

2011-07-02 Thread RoryGoff
Yep, that must be Magritte. A very perspicacious fellow! He did a lot of mind-opening pieces; one which really sticks in my memory was his picture of a pipe with the French subtitle, This is not a pipe. (And of course, he was right; it was just a picture of one...) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Archetypes, Music and Magritte (was: another question for MZ, ...)

2011-07-02 Thread RoryGoff
! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Hey, Jim! It's an interesting question... I tend to see Brown as a saturated version of Magenta, the color of the Forestress (or Pisces), whose shadow-side is the victim: the confused and betrayed one, who matures through forgiveness

[FairfieldLife] Archetypes, Music and Magritte (was: A question for MZ...)

2011-07-02 Thread RoryGoff
@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Hey, Jim! It's an interesting question... I tend to see Brown as a saturated version of Magenta, the color of the Forestress (or Pisces), whose shadow-side is the victim: the confused and betrayed one, who matures through forgiveness and temperance

[FairfieldLife] Re: Archetypes, Music and Magritte (was: A question for MZ...)

2011-07-02 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Happy Saturday! Through musical themes. Transitioning from visual art, shapes, shades and colors, into music, I find it easier to use instrumentation vs. lyrics. Cool! You were trying to piss someone off by using

[FairfieldLife] Re: Archetypes, Music and Magritte (was: A question for MZ...)

2011-07-02 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: A lot of the same creative choices to be made with sound vs. color. Lots of fun. Yes! :-) snip I figured it was stuff in Magritte's head

[FairfieldLife] Re: Art Walks Redwoods (was: Archetypes, Music and Magritte)

2011-07-02 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: I've heard and seen pictures of the Fairfield Art Walk. reminds me of an event held every Sunday in Santa Barbara along the beach - I have some beautiful glass pieces I bought there 10 years ago. 97 with humidity in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Archetypes, Music and Magritte (was: A question for MZ...)

2011-07-02 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Rather hot and humid here in Fairfield today, with a sweet, faint, musky floral scent Sounds just like a '94 Beaurdoiux * * Better than a '94

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-03 Thread RoryGoff
A good, thoughtful post, Curtis. In general I find myself at a loss for words -- and patience, unfortunately -- when I encounter what appear to me to be densely-packed strata of beliefs and assumptions (by which I suppose I mean, beliefs and assumptions I do not personally ascribe to), and I

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Big Nothing

2011-07-03 Thread RoryGoff
HA! Busted. Loved this; thank you, Judy! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Quote from a book review in Boston.com: Since time immemorial, curious people have asked where the universe came from. Nowadays we have a secular answer: the Big Bang. And yet that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-04 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote: Beautiful, thanks Rory for explaining it in the unique patented perspective of yours !!! Indeed by rejecting the feminine values of faith, trust for the fear of harming themselves, one finds themselves separated, alienated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-05 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Miracles aren't miraculous events, they are a result of us noticing miraculous events, which surround us. Good distinction, and good point, Jim... Letting go of our identification with the I'm-right-you're-wrong (or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-05 Thread RoryGoff
that my deepest desires always get fulfilled, so there is volition on my part, which somehow segues gracefully with the rest of life. The overall benefit is much less anxiety and noisy mind. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-05 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: snip As I read in an adjacent post, there tends to be a (what I term) neo-non dual, neo-spiritualism that is a dismissiveness of seeing( and doing) things that that ought to be done, could be done, inviting opportunities

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-05 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: No worries. He's just doing some back filling. Consolidating some of his gains. Normal pattern. Two steps forward, one step back repeated ad infinitum gives us the Fibonacci-sequence of growth: 0, 1 (+ 0 =) 1 (+

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-05 Thread RoryGoff
Yep. He's one of Us, now, like it or not! Mwahahaha... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: Don't know about the rest of you but I'm concerned we have not heard from the Zebra for almost two days. If you're honest, you have to admit its not the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-07 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: snip Far as I'm aware, the Holy Ghost/Spirit, although it's the second Person of the Trinity, is never portrayed in art as a human bean but is always represented symbolically (e.g., by a dove). Paligap observed that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-07 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: snip Far as I'm aware, the Holy Ghost/Spirit, although it's the second Person of the Trinity, is never portrayed in art as a human bean but is always

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-07 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Yikes. In terms of Christian theology, you're quite right, of course. (That was my mistake, not Wikipedia's!) But the mappings I've read have still identified devata with the Holy Spirit and chhandas with the Son, which

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-07 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: We need to understand that the words used for the transcendent are more concrete and understandable in context with the Hebrew culture. Thus, the words Father, Son and Holy Ghost were used by the Christian Church Fathers to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-07 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Rory, I agree that we are all One, but different. Ha! Yes, Dan, can't argue with that! I was just trying to point out that if someone out there disturbs us, it's really not out there at all, but our own

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-07 Thread RoryGoff
(Duplicate response; the other may have been eaten by Yahoo, like several others lately) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Yikes. In terms of Christian theology, you're quite right

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-07 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: Yikes. In terms of Christian theology, you're quite right, of course. (That was my mistake, not Wikipedia's!) But the mappings I've read have still

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-07 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: I could well be wrong, but I don't have the impression that there's a proceeding from question with rishi- devata-chhandas. MMY spoke of the Samhita of rishi-devata- chhandas, rather than suggesting that there's a sequence.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-07 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: I could well be wrong, but I don't have the impression that there's a proceeding from question with rishi- devata-chhandas. MMY spoke of the Samhita of rishi-devata- chhandas, rather than suggesting that there's a sequence.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-07 Thread RoryGoff
vacant of meaning than trying to stitch Blavatsky's Theosophy onto Vedic/Puranic/Tantric cosmology. ….. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: (Duplicate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Yep, just conjecturing here too. Though one could perhaps make a case for rishi as being predominant in the enlivenment of C.C., devata in G.C. and chhandas in U.C. (as I have done with my 9-chakra-model system of the 27

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Yep, just conjecturing here too. Though one could perhaps make a case for rishi as being predominant in the enlivenment of C.C., devata in G.C. and chhandas in U.C. (as I have done with my 9-chakra-model system of the 27

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: Yep, just conjecturing here too. Though one could perhaps make a case for rishi as being predominant in the enlivenment of C.C., devata in G.C. and chhandas in U.C. (as I have done with my 9-chakra-model system of the 27

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Judy, You would be spinning your wheels like the other speculators here. There is no relationship, whether actual or imagined between the various strata of the Vedic system and any form of Christian theology. * * An

[FairfieldLife] Re: “Meditation promoted for soldiers suffering from PTSD” – CNN

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
Wow. Many thanks for mentioning (merlin), posting (nablussos), and commenting on this (card). I was as profoundly moved by this as I was by Hendrix's SSB... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ wrote: I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip. Then you are going to love Judith's book because it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Rory, it's a little scary how clearly you've articulated what I was fumbling around trying to figure out how to say! I don't think the r/d/c-Trinity parallel has much of anything to do with what may be underneath the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Curtis, Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: I sometimes see astrally perfect versions of what is here on earth, so the perfect templates of the lokas make sense. Yes! I generally find those perfect versions are actually inside all things. If I fail to see them,

[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: Who here is hearing instructions directly from god? Who isn't? :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith Bourque. Have you read it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@... wrote: Hi, I just joined the group. Could you tell me what book/author you're discussing? Thanks, K

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba's Legacy: Death Threats Scandal

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote: I took some time off to stop reacting, start cleaning out my house after years of letting things pile up, mow the lawn for the first time, and revel in the joy of silence of not having my teenagers over the July

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attn: RICK -- copy of Robes of Silk? [was: Help a Saint -Lose Your Badge]

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable. It sounds interesting, though. Kat --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith Bourque. Have you read it?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Yep I have found the same thing, but didn't want to go into details unless someone mentioned it first. Regarding seeing the perfection I mean that literally and visually, though it doesn't always match up exactly with

[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Who here is hearing instructions directly from god? rorygoff@... Who isn't? :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
. OK, starting to make sense now... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith Bourque. Have you read it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@ wrote: Hi, I just joined

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attn: RICK -- copy of Robes of Silk? [was: Help a Saint -Lose Your Badge]

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: You got it, but Curtis already posted the link. If she's in FF, the library has copies. * * Thanks, Curtis, and thanks, Rick!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist like the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer. ... or an idiot like that other fellow who recommends it so heartily,

[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: I think the best fictional voice on FFL is that of the wife, as Bob refers to her, who reminds me of She Who Must Be Obeyed in John Mortimer's Rumpole series. Definitely a formidable off-stage character. * ** Good point,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: I had to stay away from the shootouts last night, by necessity. The taxis weren´t driving into Morelia Center for fear of ´taxi hijcking´, where vehicles are hijacked to be set on fire as a blockade. So I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Rory, I don´t see it that way. We certainly have opposing views on ¨troublemakers, difficult people, and the like¨. * * OK :-) Not only do we differ philisophically on this point, but I certainly don´t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-09 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: snip People have different reasons for reading. Some do it to relax, or as you say to distract them from their lives. I do it because I love good writing. Sadly, that is often my bane when it comes to modern writing,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-09 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Rory, Perhaps you have identified the main difference between your and my awareness. You don´t see that difference, but I do. My awareness remains separate (especially from mischiefmakers). * * I can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-09 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: I find it disconcerting, to say the least, to think that in a genuine Age of Enlightenment a very large portion of the human heritage of art of all types would no longer have any appeal because the theme of so much of it is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-09 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: I find it disconcerting, to say the least, to think that in a genuine Age of Enlightenment a very large portion of the human heritage of art of all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-09 Thread RoryGoff
. :-) rorygoff@... Your *first* Dan Brown novel? You mean you actually had the stomach to read more than one? You're a better man than I am, Gunga Din :-) Was it Stephen King that said: If you want to avoid writing a lot of crap, you have to read a pile of it? * * An interesting quote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-09 Thread RoryGoff
Welcome back, Robin :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Re: Summa Wrestling ME: First a meta comment thank you for taking the time to give a detailed response. A conversation about a topic dear to us that we may disagree about in profound ways

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-10 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Rory, Thanks for the deep insight. Now I can set out today better prepared. * * Ha! Any time, Dan ... Better prepared how, and to do what, if I may ask?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-10 Thread RoryGoff
by what you wrote, in that I´ll be forearmed to meet up with challenging people, if I can apply your insight about how my heart is keeping difficult people distant. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-11 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Welcome back, Robin :- RESPONSE: I sense the positive and sincere thoughts you send my way, Rory, and I believe your doing this makes a perceptible

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-11 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Welcome back, Robin :- RESPONSE: I sense the positive and sincere thoughts you send my way, Rory, and I believe your doing this makes a perceptible

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-11 Thread RoryGoff
(My sincere apologies to those who are receiving all of these re-edited versions of the same post via email) RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: Welcome back, Robin :- maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: RESPONSE: I sense the positive and sincere thoughts you send my way, Rory, and I believe your

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-11 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Now I believe that you´ve got it TWICE! Ha! I appreciate your appreciation, Dan -- perhaps it takes one to know one TWICE! And hey, why stop there? Two mirrors placed opposite each other will multiply the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-11 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: RESPONSE: Rory, I merely meant to say that the objective existence of those thoughts (their intrinsic metaphysical innocence as materially capable of influencing me) is something other than just your experience in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-11 Thread RoryGoff
@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ wrote: Now I believe that you´ve got it TWICE! Ha! I appreciate your appreciation, Dan -- perhaps it takes one to know one TWICE! And hey, why stop there? Two

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-11 Thread RoryGoff
...But if you're simply asking me if I am aware of the reverberation of multiple layers of resonant meaning in my responses, then Yes, I am; I pun with frequency and am a great fan of overtones ... :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-11 Thread RoryGoff
*sigh* and it seems in the end I am always only talking to myself... Good bye, Robin! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote: ...But if you're simply asking me if I am aware of the reverberation of multiple layers of resonant meaning in my responses, then Yes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-12 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: They have medicines for that. * * I think not.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-12 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Rory, I´m just cleaning the dust off my mirror. (an old analogy from MMY, where the mirror represents the nervous system, and the dust represents the ¨stresses¨.) * * Sweet, Dan! Me too... I like to call

[FairfieldLife] Re: Victorians DID smile!

2011-07-12 Thread RoryGoff
God, I love this! Many thanks, Judy ... ... and also for the nearly ad-hominid grinning monkey self-portrait a few days back. Beautiful! :-D *click* --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: Is that the sweetest thing you've ever seen? Nobody knows who they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-12 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: They have medicines for that. * * I think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-12 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: I always like hearing your ruminations. I guess Robin sort of had the tuning fork effect going on. * * Thanks, Steve... It appears that that tuning-fork resonance is always there amongst us if we listen closely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Unawareness Seminars

2011-07-12 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: This group group is hardly representative of the TM population living in Fairfield, IA, letalone the TM population worldwide. Anyone who stays on a group like this has issues with TM, one way or the other. * * I am just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Unawareness Seminars

2011-07-13 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-13 Thread RoryGoff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... wrote: Rory, I appreciate out Being together on this. Regards, Dan Thank you, Dan... I do love finding common-ground (Being) among us where (perhaps) none had seemed to Be! :-)

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