from:"feste37"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

2016-09-10 Thread feste37

The issue is not whether anyone is using his or her real name, but whether 
several of the anonymous handles belong to the same person. I find that quite 
interesting, since it's hard to alter one's own writing style, and I doubt 
whether one person could successfully use two anonymous handles for long before 
people realized that the same hand was responsible for them both. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 There must be hundreds of people that have posted to FFL using an alias - for 
obvious reasons. Why is there such an interest in their identity? Hardly anyone 
seems to use their real name - except the moderators.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Since both ananda and Vox are anonymous handles, your comment that I am 
attempting to reveal someone's identity (i.e., their real-world identity) makes 
no sense. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, what does that mean? It looks like you're attempting to reveal someon'e 
identity, while concealing your own.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

2016-09-10 Thread feste37

Since both ananda and Vox are anonymous handles, your comment that I am 
attempting to reveal someone's identity (i.e., their real-world identity) makes 
no sense. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 So, what does that mean? It looks like you're attempting to reveal someon'e 
identity, while concealing your own.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

2016-09-10 Thread feste37

My guess is that ananda and Vox are one and the same. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I could be wrong, but I don't think ananda_das_gupta is the same person as Vox 
and yogi dude. anon_alias is, however. 

 I do believe ananda_das_gupta is a member of and has been getting his 
(mis)information from The_Closet. He has no way of knowing what liars the other 
members are, especially about FFL history.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 You got banned from the MUM campus for being a "free-thinker", but I'm being 
"trollish" for agreeing with the moderator about the banning and shunning on 
campus?
 

 I'll humor you and give you the attention you apparently require. At this 
point I have no idea what you are asking but that is quite the catch phrase 
"banning and shunning". I like it. Now, here is your virtual hug - 'HUGZ'. Here 
is a tip: instead of repeating yourself asking rhetorical and endless loop 
questions perhaps you should check out "The Water Closet" over where the boys 
are conglomerating. They love repetition over there when they're not preening 
themselves. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 He just doesn't seem to like to be left out of any party. I think the giveaway 
is the inability not to keep repeating himself over and over a if he hasn't 
heard what the other person has written. I think that might be termed 
'trollish' in the old vernacular.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Seriously?  This is him too?  How many aliases does that make that he's using 
concurrently?  I count 3: this one, vox and yogi dude.  A record!
 

 Sal
 
 On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 last I heard, he was headed over to your place, Tex.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, you don't want to talk about the banning and shunning. What happened to 
Doug, the moderator, who was complaining about the banning and shunning - the 
guy who started this thread?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Enough questions for now, you precocious four year old. Time for your nap...
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 So, how many have been banned from the Dome? Apparently none of the FFL 
moderators are in good standing with the TM Org. One was actually banned, right?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Wrong! I was an active poster to FFL and have not been banned from Dome, MUM 
campus, etc.
 

 ananda_das_gupta  
 

 So, you called them on their "shit" and you are an adult. And, there are no 
victims from banning and shunning at the MUM campus. It's a matter of personal 
choice, to get banned from the Dome. I would suppose that everyone posting to 
FFL has been banned from the MUM campus, right?
 

 So, why is Doug, the moderator, so upset? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 FFL2 is very much active, if you care to join and post there. The ones who 
caused so much trouble here went to FFL2, until they got called on their shit, 
and made tracks, willingly. We are all adults here, making our own decisions. 
There aren't any victims. Those who have chosen to exclude themselves did it by 
choice, without any prompting. As for those booted from FFL for inadequate 
social skills, live and learn. 

So, howz about some of that "controversial spirituality" from you, huh? Let's 
see how much you are banned, shunned, stalked and harassed after sharing 
it...but I won't be holding my breath. Your fantasy doesn't hold up. 

There are mostly those who get along in the world, and there are a few fuck 
ups. The fuck ups unfortunately leak their garbage onto others, and for that 
reason are not welcome here. Get it? Could be a site about *shoes* and the same 
rules apply.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 One of the other FFL moderators created a "free speech" zone on Yahoo Groups, 
but, it looks like they were shut down by cyber stalkers, following them around 
on the internet. 

 Kicked out of the Dome and banned from campus - shunned. Banned from FFL and 
stalked. This just doesn't appear to be much of a spiritual group. Now that's 
ironic!
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Acid washing

2016-09-08 Thread feste37

"The FBI said Clinton’s tech team used BleachBit, which is a free software 
program. It does not use chemicals." 
From USA Today today
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I cracked up when I read Trump's quote. "Acid washing"?? lol. The guy probably 
thinks that the way to delete an email is to print it out and burn it. When his 
PC crashes, he blames it on "all the little hamsters inside". When he hears 
about the number of horsepower his car produces, he opens the hood and looks 
for the horses.  It must be a competition between him and Palin to be the 
dumbest public figure, ever.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Looks like Hillary had her e-mails *acid-washed* after they  were 
subpoenaed.and a preservation order was issued.That's called obstruction of 
justice. Intentionally destroying evidence.
 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 10:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Acid washing
 
 
   
 
 The most sophisticated person never heard about acid washing. Acid washing is 
a very expensive process and that's to really get rid of them. Really, and 
these emails pertain to her wedding or her yoga classes?"
 

  I like that. Doesn't have the foggiest idea of what bleach bit does or how it 
works. Bet Hillary is a pro.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 7:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Acid washing

 
   "And now you see what's happening with Hillary. You see what’s going on with 
her emails. It's a disgrace. It's a disgusting situation where she pretends 
like she doesn't know. I mean, she had her emails — 33,000 emails — acid 
washed. 

 

 --Donald Trump, interview with David Muir of ABC News

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Is Called an SOB

2016-09-06 Thread feste37

That is such a horrible comment. Not only that, it is wrong. Obama is currently
enjoying high approval ratings, I believe, up in the 50%+ range.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I think the reporters/media are trying to soften the insult a bit for the
American public.
Problem is, the American public agrees with him!

From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama Is Called an SOB

MD,

I've quoted what the reporter said as shown in the link. But I'll be looking
on YouTube for the actual statement that Duterte said in the local vernacular.
But it would not be surprising if he said it since Duterte has called the pope
the same epithet before.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

C'mon now, you're slandering female dogs!
I think he actually called him a *son of a whore*

From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 2:58 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Obama Is Called an SOB

By the president of the Philippnes who later regrets for having said the rant.
Needless to say, the US canceled its planned meeting with the Southeast Asian
nation.

Philippine President Duterte regrets rant on Obama
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/philippine-president-duterte-regrets-rant-on-obama/vi-AAizjRx?ocid=spartandhp

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/philippine-president-duterte-regrets-rant-on-obama/vi-AAizjRx?ocid=spartandhp

Philippine President Duterte regrets rant on Obama
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/philippine-president-duterte-regrets-rant-on-obama/vi-AAizjRx?ocid=spartandhp
Philippines President Duterte issues an apology for obscenity-laced remarks
about US President Obama.

View on www.msn.com
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/video/philippine-president-duterte-regrets-rant-on-obama/vi-AAizjRx?ocid=spartandhp
Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I Had Fun Reading This

2016-09-06 Thread feste37

According to "The Mind of Donald Trump," an article in the June 2016 issue of 
The Atlantic, PolitiFact states that only 9 percent of Trump's campaign 
statements are "true" or "mostly true." 75 percent of his statements are either 
"mostly false (15 percent)," "false" (42 percent), or "pants on fire" (18 
percent).

In other words, you cannot believe a word this man says. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am surprised you can write this with a straight face. The Trump guy lies 
constantly, and doesn't care. He flip flops constantly, and doesn't care. He is 
the least accountable candidate who has ever run for president, and doesn't 
care. You know why? He has done *nothing* in the area of government. Some less 
intelligent Republicans are supposedly having a field day with Hillary 
Clinton's record, but that is because *she has one*. Trump is an oaf and 
egomaniac who has done exactly ZERO in the public interest, and has no clue, 
ever. He is divisive, unethical, and an all around sleaze. I will be glad when 
he gets soundly trounced in a couple of months and he can just fade away. What 
a complete mistake he is, a true embarrassment for the country.
 

 Perfectly put. But, are you sure you are being "spiritual" enough in posting 
this?
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You have chosen to believe and put your *faith* in a proven LIAR. If she is 
constantly lied about, it's her own karma coming back. Jim Comey's press 
conference and his testimony before Congress, prove she lied to the American 
public in regards to her E-mail situation. And the lies keep coming and getting 
worse! She even lies about her lies.Once you're known as a liar, you'll always 
have that reputation.
 Comey didn't indict her because he couldn't know her *intent*. As Trey Gowdy 
says, "how could he, he never asked her any questions to investigate her 
intent". This could/would have opened up a whole new can of worms with the 
Clinton Foundation.

 Obviously, this was Comey's *way out* of being the one to throw a wrench in 
the American elections. How do you indict, or recommend indictment,  of the 
obvious choice of a political party and not screw up an election?
 Do I believe everything being said *out there* about Hillary? Of course not. A 
lot of it revolves around political hyperbole in a political campaign. But 
Comey has proven to the public that Hillary is a liar and not to be trusted. 
Any negativity coming her way, is her own creation. Being *aware* is a far 
higher spiritual quality! Denial of reality is not.

 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 8:53 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: I Had Fun Reading This
 
 
   
 I don't know what "providential immanence" or "fished on the group" means, so 
I can't respond in those terms.
 

 I have always felt that telling the truth is the most basic and most important 
spiritual value. That's where spirituality *starts*. If you tell malicious lies 
about another person, you have no spiritual credibility whatsoever. Hillary 
Clinton is constantly being lied about--including by several members of this 
supposedly spiritual group--in a bid for political advantage, and I think 
that's disgraceful.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Okay so you two are contending with each other on a spiritual Yahoo-Group over 
politics again. What do either of you feel is a spiritual import or 
relationship of providential immanence in this evidently mundane political 
material that was fished on the group and you are contending in this thread? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, I would be very concerned if I fell and got a concussion at her age.  

 Especially if I had been called on the carpet by the FBI to explain why I 
deleted 30,000 email from the public record, without authorization, and I told 
the FBI "I can't recall" forty times in less than one hour trying to explain 
why I had passed classified material to a third party using my Blackberry.
 

 Right. But none of this happened with Hillary. It's just made up.
 

 

 

 Yes, I'd be very concerned.

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The NFL is very concerned about players and concussions, but Hillary doesn't 
seem to be concerned,
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 The NFL is very concerned about players who receive multiple concussions and 
aren't treated properly for them. Hillary has had one concussion and was 
treated for it extensively. No parallel here, and the writer knows it.
 

 although she said she didn't "recall", forty times, during her FBI interview 
and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Fwd: Special Jyotish Alert from the Global Council of Jyotish Experts

2016-09-03 Thread feste37

Beautifully put, Upfronter, especially the first phrase: "Decades ago I was 
redeemed from deep trauma by Maharishi’s simple meditation programmes which I 
treat with respect and a deep gratitude in the sense that the meditation 
technique itself is a spiritual tool, a gift, to enable an outlook and 
progression, the absence of which I know from experience is not a state in 
which I want to find myself."

I agree wholeheartedly. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  
 From this person’s point of view, for what it is worth, I find the association 
of Jyotish with the basic meditation techniques off-putting, something which 
turns me away from the Movement as it is. I think that this association limits 
the ‘Movement’ (if I may still call it that) because some are not in the 
position to accept everything as a ‘True Believer’.  
  
 For example, being urged to join a group meditation because of the overall 
benefit to the environment and its inhabitants is a worthy cause. But, for me, 
to be urged to join a group meditation on the basis of a theoretical 
astrological forecast has a negative effect, as I see things differently to 
that. Group meditation is beneficial at any time, whether seemingly a ‘good’ 
time or a ‘bad’ time, because the mill of life constantly requires grist in 
order to keep turning. Indeed, it seems clear to me that group meditation is 
just as required when times are apparently ‘good’ as when they are ‘bad’ 
because the hand is taken off the plough, the furrow has not been drawn so 
straight and in drifting complacency the unseen negative enemy force has been 
building itself up. In my opinion, if seeking to encourage group meditation, it 
would be more beneficial to stay with a more generally accepted reason such as 
simply calling for group meditation in order to raise collective consciousness 
in such-and-such a city, or perhaps to transform negativity into positivity in 
such-and-such a country. Being urged to do this based on astrological theory, 
is for me personally, unhelpful and misleading. 
  
 Decades ago I was redeemed from deep trauma by Maharishi’s simple meditation 
programmes which I treat with respect and a deep gratitude in the sense that 
the meditation technique itself is a spiritual tool, a gift, to enable an 
outlook and progression, the absence of which I know from experience is not a 
state in which I want to find myself. Since then I have tried other techniques 
but I have a soft spot for the simplicity and effectiveness of the TM-Sidhi 
programme. At the time, I was ripe to soak up the developing life of the 
Movement of the master’s heart and mind. I considered Maharishi the wisest 
human alive although I never quite gave him infallibility status. It was very 
uplifting to know that Maharishi only had to speak and I was happily cushioned 
in seeking to apply those directions, feeling that at least I could trust this 
man to be wiser than my own traumatised self. 
  
 It was after a short while that I began to question how much Maharishi did 
actually know of Reality beyond how to meditate and his own Self-realisation – 
and I decided, rather reluctantly, that he was a master who knew the Self to a 
strong degree but who was coloured by the flavour of the Vedic knowledge to 
which he had been exposed – and his viewpoint on all things was influenced 
accordingly, and I had to take them with the proverbial pinch of salt – not as 
gospel as perhaps a True Believer might do.
  
 Similarly, I listen sincerely to any human who has in any degree realised his 
own Self – is Self-realised - as this is instructional. But I have to admit 
that to ‘facts’ beyond that I do not give much credence by any Self-realised 
human, or rather, do not take as unquestionable that which a Self-realised 
being states about life beyond his or her own Self-realisation, and I am often 
in disagreement.  
  
 Really, it is the right of any man, woman or child to be a True Believer – 
which I have never been - and be blessed by that culture and its associated 
benefits of well-being. It is an error, in my opinion, for one in a state of 
spiritual pride, to try to dislodge such a True Believer from their current 
position in the sense that one who kicks away the foundation so carefully and 
painstakingly built up out of the passion and dedication of the heart so that 
they would fall into a state of loss – that one responsible is causing himself 
to fall in like measure. On the other hand, spiritual pride from the Movement 
will prevent it from understanding that it plays but a part in the lifting up 
of humanity and that a mightier force is already at work raising up and 
spiritualising the Race by degree outside of the Movement. It is better in all 
cases to preserve spiritual innocence because spiritual pride is a certain and 
impassable trap as even the subtle gossamer threads of the spider’s web will 
stop dead in its tracks the delicate wings of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM Dispossessed.

2016-09-02 Thread feste37

I'm puzzled by Ollie's post. If the TM-Sidhis "are the complete path, and one 
that leads to all the other knowledge that is being offered," why is it that 
"no one in the current leadership is living such a reality"? The latter 
statement would seem to cast some doubt on the notion that the TM-Sidhis are 
the "complete path," and might perhaps explain why so many people on longer 
practice these techniques. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I have to ask myself, why would someone who has found other avenues for their 
investigation of consciousness, be at all concerned about doing TM-Sidhis in 
the Dome? If they want to look elsewhere, OK, but continuing the plunge into 
the transcendent in the Dome will only lead them to greater confusion. Once 
this is clearly explained, it would settle much of the issue. The TM-Sidhis are 
the complete path, and one that leads to all the other knowledge that is being 
offered, in time. The thing is, no one in the current leadership is living such 
a reality, and therefore unable to explain this guideline in personal terms, 
without attachment, so it becomes a rule, which people really don't understand, 
and rebel against, creating a mess. 

It is the old problem that MMY explains in the Gita, about the knowledge of the 
teacher being interpreted at the followers' level of consciousness. If it is 
waking state vs. waking state, nothing is accomplished.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, that becomes a consideration here.  What is Fair to exclude on?  
Dispossessing the way they have administrated it is asserted to be fair and 
rational except that the ‘non-compete’ clauses for membership that relate to 
doing non-Maharishi Jyotish and doing non-Maharishi yoga, Non-Maharishi 
ayurveda, etc, came along as ‘add-ons’ in a sequence of time.   
 This nature of character of assessing fealty has been asserting itself 
excluding and sending away whole categories of interested practicing meditators 
for 35 years. For positive reasons of expansion this needs to change now.   

That old business and fanatical believer mindset of separating practicing 
meditators from the group meditation as a primary means of retribution against 
categories of private life for members has been little other than corrosive to 
what was a larger communal mission and hope. -Jai
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It seems like a fair enough demarcation to say that those who have set 
themselves up as teachers of another discipline would not be compatible with 
ongoing Dome TM-Sidhis programs. As Ken Kesey famously said, "you're either on 
the bus or off the bus...". Rather than make it an edict though, with spying 
and all of that, the interference of other programs should be clearly explained 
in a non-judgmental way, and then self-enforced. Instead of making it a value 
judgment, the science behind it could be clarified. The TMO made it a holier 
than thou issue and that f'ed everything up - Perhaps a higher consciousness at 
the helm will help.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The 'non-compete' clauses. 
 

 A sad irony in this thread which has been sore effect for the community here 
is that these recognized experts and a lot of jyotish experts who have come out 
of the old ™ community with their early training in Maharishi jyotish are 
technically disbarred, disenfranchised by guideline, from membership 
participation in our ™ community group meditations. 
 
 The Maharishi Foundation ™.org National standards for participation as they 
stand now specifically exclude people who ‘promote’ other systems of jyotish, 
excluding from the Dome meditations here and other sponsored ™ group 
meditations. 'Other systems' as in non-Maharishi jyotish.  
 

 This has been applied to old ™’ers for quite a number of years. For some 
number of years the patronizing ($) non-Maharishi jyotish/yagya was certain 
grounds for exclusion from the Dome meditations and used to exclude practicing 
meditators from membership in the group. Meditators are now free to ‘consult’ 
with non-maharishi jyotishi but the exclusion still stands over ‘promoting’ in 
practice jyotish using other systems deemed non-Maharishi jyotish astrology. 

 A conservative or fanatical business mind that is welded with strong emotional 
(fanatical) belief inside about the exclusivity of all ™ teachers are thinking 
that all old, de-certs, re-certs and new ™ teachers are sales representatives 
of all that is now ™ and hence are strictly liable to business non-compete 
constraints through the movement right to administratively denying membership 
using the validation of Dome badges for inclusion in the communal group 
practice of meditation as a preferred means of sales-force discipline.  

 In effect what could be adjudicated by a human resources department or a legal 
department more narrowly with employees

[FairfieldLife] Re: HC: SCJD??

2016-09-01 Thread feste37

My belief is that Hillary will be dead within the next 25 years. Obviously, she 
must have something wrong with her. Her apparent wellness and intellectual 
acuity must be masking something. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Too bad about this guy's dad; that's a tough call. 

 However, Hillary doesn't have any of the symptoms of the disease, so we don't 
need to be concerned on her account.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 A Youtube comment:
 

 +Josh Bernstein My dad died of SCJD, I know those symptoms on a brutally 
personal level, Sir. I bet Hillary has SCJD. They won't be in any kind of rush 
to diagnose her because it's an automatic death sentence. They'll run every 
battery of test known to man and blame everything else that it 'could be' until 
her symptoms can no longer be blamed on a 4 year old blood clot. There is no 
test to give while your living to be able to tell you for sure that you have 
it. What they do is try to rule everything else out as the con fusion, 
forgetfulness, hyperekplexia and myoclonus gets so bad it cant be ignored. They 
have to wait until death and do an autopsy to confirm the diagnosis.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: So, how do you like being manipulated by the DNC and the media? UNBELIEVABLE.

2016-08-28 Thread feste37

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 Democrats using *human shields* I like that!
 Ann has a way with words.

If you like disgusting bigotry, that is. 

 


 From: vox_9 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2016 9:19 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: So, how do you like being manipulated by 
the DNC and the media? UNBELIEVABLE.
 
 
   

 Ann Coulter on Khizr Khan: ‘We’re all going to be living under Sharia law if 
this guy has his way’ 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ann-coulter-khizr-khan-sharia-00415.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ann-coulter-khizr-khan-sharia-00415.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 
 Ann Coulter on Khizr Khan: ‘We’re all going to be living... 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ann-coulter-khizr-khan-sharia-00415.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
 Donald Trump may regret some of his recent public comments that have “caused 
personal pain.” But conservative commentator Ann Coulter, author of a ne...


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/03/khizr-khans-connections/ 
http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/03/khizr-khans-connections/
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Keep talkin'!

2016-08-21 Thread feste37

Hillary's brain works right now better than yours ever did, Mike! Have you 
noticed how coherently she speaks on all issues? Complete sentences and 
paragraphs, all well organized and precise. It's very impressive. Not like your 
favored candidate, who is embarrassingly inarticulate. He can barely put a 
sentence together!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You know Judy, this declining mental function of hers could come in handy in 
the future, especially when she has to testify about stuff. "Geee that's funny, 
I can't recall!"
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 12:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Keep talkin'!
 
 
   It's obvious to anyone with a brain. It's obvious to *you*, Mike. But you'd 
rather look stupid in the hope that you can get some *really* stupid people to 
think she did "go blank."
 

 Contemptible.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yeah, yeah... that's the ticket! She got distracted!
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 11:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Keep talkin'!

 
   Oh, PLEASE. She's obviously looking at something happening in front of her, 
in the audience, apparently some protesters. You can hear one of them 
shrieking. She's wondering whether she needs to do or say anything about it. 
Then the guy comes up to reassure her that she doesn't need to be concerned, 
security is handling it. But the audience has become distracted, so she calls 
their attention away from the protesters and back to herself. Nothing in the 
least "scary" about it.
 

 Mike, you're not stupid. You know damn well that's what was going on.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That is a little scary.She just goes blank and suddenly comes back.
 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:09 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Keep talkin'!

 
   
 Handlers "coach" H. mid-speech...
 

 https://youtu.be/iHh9Ll1iD08?t=12m45s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Keep talkin'!

2016-08-20 Thread feste37

I would say the latter, since it is far worse to be unscrupulous and malicious 
than to be stupid. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I don't know which is worse, the folks who are so stupid they believe this 
crap, or the folks who are too smart to believe it but push it anyway. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 No, it's not scary. That's not what she does at all. This 
Hillary-has-brain-problem meme is just sick. No evidence for it whatsoever. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That is a little scary.She just goes blank and suddenly comes back.
 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:09 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Keep talkin'!
 
 
   
 Handlers "coach" H. mid-speech...
 

 https://youtu.be/iHh9Ll1iD08?t=12m45s https://youtu.be/iHh9Ll1iD08?t=12m45s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Keep talkin'!

2016-08-20 Thread feste37

No, it's not scary. That's not what she does at all. This 
Hillary-has-brain-problem meme is just sick. No evidence for it whatsoever. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That is a little scary.She just goes blank and suddenly comes back.
 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 2:09 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Keep talkin'!
 
 
   
 Handlers "coach" H. mid-speech...
 

 https://youtu.be/iHh9Ll1iD08?t=12m45s https://youtu.be/iHh9Ll1iD08?t=12m45s

[FairfieldLife] Re: O M G!

2016-07-31 Thread feste37

I watched a bit of Alex Jones. He seems unmoored, to me, untethered to reality, 
wandering around in his own crazy world, getting more outraged with each 
passing day. I feel sorry for him. He has lost touch with whatever good sense 
and judgment that he might once have had. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 I wouldn't be surprised that Snopes itself plants false-flag messages on the 
internet in order to expose them. But, one fact is undisputed: Seth Rich is 
dead, murdered. Alex Jones is onto this, you can be sure.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

FALSE: DNC Worker Seth Conrad Rich Gunned Down on the Way to Meet FBI 
http://www.snopes.com/seth-conrad-rich# 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/seth-conrad-rich#
 
 FALSE: DNC Worker Seth Conrad Rich Gunned Dow... 
http://www.snopes.com/seth-conrad-rich# A conspiracy site latched on to the 
tragic murder of young DNC staffer Seth Rich to spread false information about 
his killing.


 
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 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

 Assassination of Top Dem. Party Official Leads to FBI Capture of Clinton “Hit 
Team” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwQ62nAOES4

 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwQ62nAOES4
 
 Assassination of Top Dem. Party Official Leads to FBI ... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwQ62nAOES4 Assassination Of Top US Democratic 
Party Official Leads To FBI Capture Of Clinton “Hit Team” - DNC official Seth 
Rich, 28 years old, assassinated 10 Jul...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, Ia. Buddha at the Gas Pump

2016-07-30 Thread feste37

She posted here quite frequently for a while. She could not stop boasting about 
how brilliant she was, how many degrees she had, how remarkable her 
achievements were, etc. etc. It got to be very boring and predictable. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I've been a member in this forum for a while, also.  But I don't recall ever 
reading her posts here.  A lot of people have come and go here.  So I could be 
mistaken.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I also believe she used to post on FFL.
 
 On 07/29/2016 07:22 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
   

 Hey, Doug
 

 I watched this interview last night.  With the help of amrit kalash, I had an 
unusual dream about a place in Germany, I assume.  I was in a room with an 
unusual contraption, which we call television today.  It took me a while to 
figure out how to use it.  Although Rick Archer was the interviewer in the 
show,  I don't know why, the dream appeared to have happened during post-war 
Germany.
 

 The unusual part of the interview was that Angela said Nazi Germany was very 
much into meditation.  What kind of meditation, she did not specifically 
explain.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 

 002. Angela Mailander - Buddha at the Gas Pump 
 
 
 
 002. Angela Mailander - Buddha at the Gas Pump I was born in Germany in 1940 
and have lived in France, Greece, India, China, and seven states within the 
U.S. When I was fifteen, I taught my first class of ESL an...

 
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 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
 
 001. The Fosters - Buddha at the Gas Pump
 
 
 
 https://batgap.com/fosters/
 
 001. The Fosters - Buddha at the Gas Pump When I recorded this first 
interview, my intention was to produce a radio show, so this is the pilot for 
that. I started this interview by reading a prepared introd...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish: Trump to win in November

2016-07-29 Thread feste37

That's interesting. I hope you are right. I don't know enough to evaluate it. I 
am also reading that there is some doubt about Hillary's exact birth time. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Feste,
 

 Using traditional jyotish, the jyotishi is making an accurate reading of 
Hillary Clinton's chart.  However, since Clinton is now running the weak period 
of the Sun, she should not have done well against Bernie Sanders and should not 
have been the presidential candidate by the Democrats. 
 

 Nonetheless, using the Nadi Jyotish techniques, we find a different picture of 
why Clinton has a stronger chart and would defeat Trump during election time.  
Specifically, Nadi Jyotish uses the sublords during the mahadasha as the 
indicator of things to come.  In Clinton's case, she is indeed running the 
mahadasha of the Sun, which is debilitated in Libra.  But the difference is the 
sublord of the Sun's placement in Libra which is Rahu.  And Rahu is placed in 
the 7th house and exalted in Taurus.
 

 Further, her exalted Rahu means she can attract various sectors of the 
population, including minorities and the LGBT voters.
 

 On the other hand, Trump is also running the mahadasha of Rahu, but the 
sublord is Jupiter which is placed in the third house, a weak placement for 
Jupiter.
 

 Therefore, Clinton wins because of the strength of her sublord, which cannot 
be seen using traditional jyotish.

 

 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Alarming prediction from an astrologer who seems to know what he is talking 
about. Look at what Trump has going for him on Inauguration Day. See the 
details:
Jyotish and the 2016 Presidential Election 
http://www.prasannanjyotish.com/publications/2016/07/2016-us-election.html 
 
 Jyotish and the 2016 Presidential Election 
http://www.prasannanjyotish.com/publications/2016/07/2016-us-election.html 
Namaste, Interest in the upcoming US elections has been unprecedented. The US 
Independence chart recently began the major cycle of Rahu; when Rahu occupies 
the 8th house, it's period will bring fear, phobias, and poor judgement; in a 
country's chart, the prevale...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Jyotish: Trump to win in November

2016-07-28 Thread feste37

Alarming prediction from an astrologer who seems to know what he is talking 
about. Look at what Trump has going for him on Inauguration Day. See the 
details:
Jyotish and the 2016 Presidential Election 
http://www.prasannanjyotish.com/publications/2016/07/2016-us-election.html 
 
 Jyotish and the 2016 Presidential Election 
http://www.prasannanjyotish.com/publications/2016/07/2016-us-election.html 
Namaste, Interest in the upcoming US elections has been unprecedented. The US 
Independence chart recently began the major cycle of Rahu; when Rahu occupies 
the 8th house, it's period will bring fear, phobias, and poor judgement; in a 
country's chart, the prevale...
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Suicide Bombing- Ultimate Act of Self-destruction of a Failed god

2016-07-28 Thread feste37

They're called the Japanese now, Mike. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Japs did it towards the end of WW2. It was called the Kamikaze attack.
 .
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 10:08 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Suicide Bombing- Ultimate Act of Self-destruction 
of a Failed god
 
 
   Or acts of mayhem in the form of attacking armies. Suicide bombings were 
unheard of, until the ME was invaded several times. We'd do it here in the US 
too, under similar circumstances. The Pope is cherry picking. Better he look 
after his pedophile priests.

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie,
 

 The Pope did say the first sentence in my post.  However, the rest of the 
sentences are my own opinion and embellishment of what he said.  MMY would say 
that most human beings are asleep and not aware of their actions here on earth. 
 That's why most people are not enlightened and remain in darkness, such as 
committing acts of mayhem in the form of suicide bombings.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Very big of him - next question to the Pope - When was the last time the 
Vatican was attacked, bombed and strafed with gunfire, resulting in families 
and children killed? No one is justifying violence to meet violence, but the 
Pope sounds very detached, and more interested in furthering his marketing 
goals. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 As the Pope stated, these so-called jihadists are not doing their heinous acts 
in the name of Allah.  They're actually committing acts of destruction in the 
name of their own earthly power here on earth.  If they can't have their way, 
the ultimate end is through destruction of themselves and others who oppose 
their will.
 

 In a worldly view, this is insanity.  In  spiritual terms, this is an act of 
self-conceit and last farewell of a failed god.  IMO, we can see this act of 
defiance in the story of Man's loss of Paradise in the Garden of Eden, as 
narrated in the Book of Genesis in the Old Testament.  This trait was inherited 
from the first humans in the Garden of Eden-- Adam and Eve.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Baba Vanga: Obama last POTUS?

2016-07-24 Thread feste37

She's just making stuff up. She does not have a clue. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 LOL! love it. Hope springs eternal.
 
 


 From: "Share Long sharelong60@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 10:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Baba Vanga: Obama last POTUS?
 
 
   
 It could simply be that in her language, the word for president is masculine. 
Thus what she was saying is that Obama is the last male president.
 
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 8:55 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Baba Vanga: Obama last POTUS?

 
   
 

 Vanga reached news headlines after predicting, in 1989, what many interpret to 
be the 9/11 terror attacks.
 Horror, horror! The American brethren will fall after being attacked by the 
steel birds. The wolves will be howling in a bush, and innocent blood will be 
gushing.
 — Predicted in 1989 by Baba Vanga[32] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Vanga#cite_note-32
 
 Vanga predicted that the 44th President of the United States will be African 
American, and the last US president.[33] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Vanga#cite_note-33[34] 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Vanga#cite_note-34 Other of her predictions 
include that Europe will be transformed into an Islamic caliphate and the 
transformation will be complete in the year 2043, that communism will return to 
Europe and the rest of the world in 2076 and that there will be a war on Mars 
in 3005.[35] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Vanga#cite_note-35 Due to the 
subjective nature of many predictions, many remain skeptical.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: so sad. Someone should be getting axed over this prank...

2016-07-20 Thread feste37

Almost unbelievable incompetence! 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Melania Trump’s Speechwriter Takes Responsibility for Lifted Remarks 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/melania-trump-speech-meredith-mciver.html
 
 
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/melania-trump-speech-meredith-mciver.html
 
 
 Melania Trump’s Speechwriter Takes Responsibility for Li... 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/melania-trump-speech-meredith-mciver.html
 Meredith McIver, a longtime employee of the Trump Organization, said that she 
had offered her resignation over what she called an innocent mistake, but that 
Do...
 
 
 
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 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Logan McK. Cheek III 
 To: rcarrington 
 Sent: Wed, Jul 20, 2016 12:20 am
 Subject: Re: so sad. Someone should be getting axed over this prank...
 
 What if it were a mole from the Clinton campaign? 
 
 Eureka!!! For now, the newest conspiracy theory. Let's call it, ahhh, ... How 
does "The vast left wing conspiracy" sound?
 
 
 L
 
 On Tuesday, July 19, 2016,  wrote:
 I really feel sorry for Melania getting set up like this. And it had to be one 
of Donald’s own people that did it. 
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Sent from Gmail Mobile

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Be Trusted with Political Power

2016-07-13 Thread feste37

I see no evidence at all that atheists lead lives that are any less moral than
those of religious people. Atheists may well possess a moral conscience that
holds them to very high ethical standards.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Judy,

IMO, he's saying that atheists like Stalin and Lenin think that they are gods
onto themselves and can justify acts of infamy by using a material standard,
such as communism or their own ideas and ignore standards based on moral
grounds, ideas based on spiritual values or the realm of Creator of the
Universe.

The Old Testament tried to convey this message in the story of how Adam and
Eve lost their right to live in the Garden of Eden or Paradise. This was due
to their desire to become like gods and to disobey God's rule, as tempted by
Satan, the devil... IMO, atheists are the prime example of the fallen man
today in our midst, as shown in the Garden story in the book of Genesis.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

This idiot claims "atheists cannot be trusted with political power because
they have no 'moral high ground to stand on.'"

Are you really buying in to this bilge, John?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Why? Because they've killed over 100 million people in the last century.
Notorious examples are Stalin, Lenin, and Pol Pot.

Ray Comfort: Can't Trust Atheists in Power -- They 'Caused 110 Million Deaths'
in One Century
http://cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/ray-comfort-cant-trust-atheists-power-they-caused-110-million-deaths-one

Ray Comfort: Can't Trust Atheists in Power -- They 'Caused 110 Million Deaths'
in One Ce...
http://cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/ray-comfort-cant-trust-atheists-power-they-caused-110-million-deaths-one
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[FairfieldLife] Re: White Christian America ’s Waning Cultural Influence

2016-07-12 Thread feste37


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "It’s impossible to grasp the depth of many white Americans’ anxieties and 
fears—or comprehend recent phenomena like the rise of the Tea Party or Donald 
Trump in American politics, the zealous tone of the final battles over gay 
rights, or the racial tensions that have spiked over the last few years—without 
understanding that, along with its population, America’s religious and cultural 
landscape is being fundamentally altered."
 

 The Eclipse of White Christian America 
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/the-eclipse-of-white-christian-america/490724/

 
 
 The Eclipse of White Christian America 
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/the-eclipse-of-white-christian-america/490724/
 A once powerful demographic group is losing ground in American politics.


 
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 I have as much sympathy and empathy with "White Christian America" as I do 
with that bullfighter.
 

 Feste says: You are in a churlish mood today. So who are the lucky recipients 
of your sympathy and empathy?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, Iowa to Rebrand

2016-07-11 Thread feste37

A long time ago a friend of mine suggested "Fairfield -- Nowhere Else Comes 
Close," which at the time I thought was quite clever, but not likely to be 
adopted. Taglines are mostly a waste of time, I think. They are dreamed up by 
PR people and don't mean anything. I have recently spent time in Grinnell, IA, 
which for those who don't know, is the same size as Fairfield, about 90 miles 
northwest. Grinnell's tagline is "The Jewel of the Prairie." Well, you could 
have fooled me. It doesn't even have a decent restaurant.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Fairfield, Iowa -A Place of Meditation with Revolution in Mind.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Small Town with Big Values" is great, but a lot of other towns use it in 
their promotion (Google it). 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 ..Anyone have tagline ideas that are inclusive of it all? 

 from folks after Quaker Meeting..
 
 Business, Art and Spiritual life.
 

 Fairfield, Iowa -A Small Town with Big Values.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Fairfield, Iowa where happiness is a primary objective..
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Fairfield, Iowa: a Town Where Opposites Attract.

 
 A more current Branding tagline.. 

Fairfield, Iowa:  Where New Age and Old Age Meet
 

 #
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, it is.  A challenge though for these out of town people who have been 
hired by the traditional town elders to do this rebrand is to catch the 
different elements that make up Fairfield, Iowa in a branding tagline that the 
town elders can accept.

If it was the Bevanites doing it as they have said it in the past it would be, 
“Fairfield is for those who have faith and belief in Maharishi, and everyone 
else should leave”. But after 40 years they are a smaller part of the larger 
meditating community that is gathered here now.   Quite evidently they do not 
entirely represent what is going on in Fairfield, Iowa spiritually.  But quite 
evidently something else mature has set into ‘spiritual’ Fairfield that people 
do come to see and people are moving to.
 

 It could be to everyone's advantage if the PR people could recognize that in 
the taglines they come up with and the town elders would accept it. 
 

 Anyone else have ideas that are inclusive of it all? Fairfield, Iowa: ..
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Good one. Maybe FFL should submit this (or some variation) to the visitors 
bureau for free.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How about a new tagline.. 

Fairfield, Iowa:  Where New Age and Old Age Meet
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Fairfield Iowa Convention and Visitors Bureau in conjunction with the city 
and other partners has commissioned an Oregon firm to rebrand the city, giving 
it a new logo, tagline and more.

 Visitors bureau, city seek rebrand - By ANDY HALLMAN Ledger news editor 
http://fairfield-ia.villagesoup.com/p/visitors-bureau-city-seek-rebrand/1545193
 
 
 http://fairfield-ia.villagesoup.com/p/visitors-bureau-city-seek-rebrand/1545193
 
 Visitors bureau, city seek rebrand - By ANDY HALLM... 
http://fairfield-ia.villagesoup.com/p/visitors-bureau-city-seek-rebrand/1545193 
The Fairfield Iowa Convention and Visitors Bureau in conjunction with the city 
and other partners has commissioned an Oregon firm to rebrand the city, giving 
it...


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Active Spiritual Practice Groups in Fairfield, Iowa: 
 > > > > > Directory of Active Fairfield Spiritual Practice Groups
> > > > > 
> > > > > Outside of Fairfield, people intently ask, "What is going on in
> > > > > Fairfield?"
> > > > > The spiritual, utopian side of Fairfield is something they are
> > > > > wondering
> > > > > about. Fairfield has become recognized as a spiritual Mecca of sorts,
> > > > > ranking with Sedona, Arizona, Boulder and Crestone, Colorado,
> > > > > Ashville,
> > > > > North Carolina and the like. Within these past four decades,
> > > > > Fairfield
> > > > > spiritual practice groups have matured, giving this community a
> > > > > rich, new
> > > > > face.
> > > > > The long-time Fairfield meditating community today is its own center
> > > > > for
> > > > > spiritual practice. The breadth of spiritual practice groups in
> > > > > Fairfield is
> > > > > now a unique feature of our town in the 21st Century.
> > > > > 


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oneness Fairfield
 

 We are a community that meets to share in Oneness Blessings and other Oneness 
events for awakening and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Yup

2016-07-08 Thread feste37

The problem is that the video begins after he was shot. So we do not know for
sure what the sequence of words/events was. The girlfriend's account appears to
connect his statement that he had a weapon with his reaching for his wallet,
but who knows what the actual sequence was, re his words/actions and the orders
of the cop?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqROP_T5jyM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqROP_T5jyM

GRAPHIC Facebook LIVE Video Shows Black Man SHOT & KILLED By Police In ... A
man died Wednesday night after being shot by police in Falcon Heights, the
aftermath of which was recorded in ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqROP_T5jyM

Kind of hard to watch but this pretty much explains the problems here.

From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]"
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Yup

Minnesota, Wisconsin, same state. One has more cheese, the other, more lakes.
Your hypothesis that had he not been carrying a gun , he would still be alive,
maybe, but not necessarily so to BLM.
If you watch the video it's pretty clear that he reached for his wallet or ID
while telling the cop that he has a gun. Yeah, it sounds insane but it's pretty
clear from the videos that I've seen. One problem here is that marijuana was
also found in the car. No big deal but might be partially responsible for his
*decision making*, reaching for an ID while announcing he has a gun.As I said,
not a smart move.

In states that have open or concealed carry laws, the moment you are
approached by a cop, it is your responsibility to *first* announce to the
officer that you have a license to carry and that you are carrying a weapon. At
that point, the cop is aware of your weapon ( no surprises )and will give
further instruction on how he intends to proceed. Usually they ask "where is
your weapon"? They may want to disarm you before doing anything else, just for
safety sake.

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Yup

My guess is that had the guy in Minnesota (not Wisconsin) not been carrying
a gun he would still be alive. More guns do not make people safer. When he told
the cop he carried a gun, that spooked the cop, who went on super-alert and
overreacted. (I have read or seen nothing that says he said "I have a gun"
while reaching for his wallet. It doesn't sound like something any sane person
would say and do at the same time in the presence of a cop.)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

The cop in Wisconsin or where ever it was, obviously over reacted and had bad
training. Unfortunately, the only thing the black guy could have done
differently was, tell the cop he had a gun and a license to carry *before*
reaching for his wallet, which the cop had asked for. Reaching for your wallet
while saying "I have a gun" was not smart. But the cop gave conflicting
instructions and over reacted. Bad training on his part! No racism here. A
tragic incident.

Baton Rouge is a different story. The guy had threatened a store owner with a
gun earlier or may have just shown the store owner his gun. Police were aware
he may be armed. They were in a position to taser the guy if they felt
threatened. As I recall, the guy resisted arrest and a take down ensued.They
were way too quick to shoot this guy from what I've seen so far. The police
pulled a gun from his pocket which they undoubtedly will say he was reaching
for. I don't think his shooting was justified either.

From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Yup

What about the two shootings last couple of days that precipitated this? Cops
being judge, jury and executioner? Shall we disarm everyone including the
cops? Knee jerk reactions are not solutions.

On 07/07/2016 09:07 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yessiree, having guns is certainly an asset in America, or anywhere else for
that matter.
So, now what?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shots-fired-dallas-amid-protest-recent-police-killings/story?id=40422456

Re: [FairfieldLife] Yup

2016-07-08 Thread feste37

My guess is that had the guy in Minnesota (not Wisconsin) not been carrying a
gun he would still be alive. More guns do not make people safer. When he told
the cop he carried a gun, that spooked the cop, who went on super-alert and
overreacted. (I have read or seen nothing that says he said "I have a gun"
while reaching for his wallet. It doesn't sound like something any sane person
would say and do at the same time in the presence of a cop.)

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2016 11:16 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Yup

What about the two shootings last couple of days that precipitated this? Cops
being judge, jury and executioner? Shall we disarm everyone including the
cops? Knee jerk reactions are not solutions.

On 07/07/2016 09:07 PM, awoelflebater@... mailto:awoelflebater@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Yessiree, having guns is certainly an asset in America, or anywhere else for
that matter.
So, now what?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/shots-fired-dallas-amid-protest-recent-police-killings/story?id=40422456

[FairfieldLife] Re: Divorced Catholics Must Avoid Sex

2016-07-07 Thread feste37

Marriage is difficult enough (so I hear) without the Catholic Church barging in
and laying down the law.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Feste,

The Church has become legalistic because of its interpretation of marriage in
the Bible. It has determined that marriage cannot be broken.

This has become a stumbling for many church members. As such, they either
leave the church or ignore the rules set by the church. They remain married in
the church, but have live-in girl friends or common-law wives. In technical
terms, they should be excommunicated by the church.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I'm staggered by the lack of understanding shown by the Catholic Church in
Philly of how intimate relationships between people work. What he says is
ridiculous, completely clueless. You would have to be equally clueless to take
any notice of it. My prediction is that no one will.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Or move to another diocese. This is just for the Philadelphia archdiocese,
John. Did you read the article?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Easier said than done. If this is the case, a lot of Catholics will leave the
church.

Philadelphia archbishop: Divorced Catholics must avoid sex
https://www.yahoo.com/news/philadelphia-archbishop-divorced-catholics-must-avoid-sex-144533896.html

https://www.yahoo.com/news/philadelphia-archbishop-divorced-catholics-must-avoid-sex-144533896.html

Philadelphia archbishop: Divorced Catholics must avo...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/philadelphia-archbishop-divorced-catholics-must-avoid-sex-144533896.html
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The head of the Roman Catholic Church in Philadelphia is
closing the door opened by Pope Francis to letting civilly remarried Catholics
rec...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Divorced Catholics Must Avoid Sex

2016-07-06 Thread feste37

I'm staggered by the lack of understanding shown by the Catholic Church in 
Philly of how intimate relationships between people work. What he says is 
ridiculous, completely clueless. You would have to be equally clueless to take 
any notice of it. My prediction is that no one will.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Or move to another diocese. This is just for the Philadelphia archdiocese, 
John. Did you read the article? 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Easier said than done.  If this is the case, a lot of Catholics will leave the 
church.
 

 Philadelphia archbishop: Divorced Catholics must avoid sex 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/philadelphia-archbishop-divorced-catholics-must-avoid-sex-144533896.html
 
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/philadelphia-archbishop-divorced-catholics-must-avoid-sex-144533896.html
 
 Philadelphia archbishop: Divorced Catholics must avo... 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/philadelphia-archbishop-divorced-catholics-must-avoid-sex-144533896.html
 PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The head of the Roman Catholic Church in Philadelphia is 
closing the door opened by Pope Francis to letting civilly remarried Catholics 
rec...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Change of Leadership

2016-07-03 Thread feste37

I just hope it is not too late. We have needed this change since the early 
1990s, in my opinion, and perhaps even before. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The University President was turned out based on performance.  As it happened 
he brought it on himself. Essentially, he undid himself.

 A narrative, of what happened and how it came to be..

 In fact there was quite a lot of communal process involved in this. The 
process began within public meetings of the Fairfield Mental Health Alliance 
[FMHA] early in the summer of 2014.  Communal processes within the Fairfield 
meditating community, the University, and the TM Movement started then as 
community meetings were called for in the wake of a string of suicides by 
younger people of the meditating Fairfield community.   

 From that time working committees of meditators formed looking into conditions 
of mental well-being in the meditating community. This came from an initial 
call-to-meeting that went out as a memo sent around to licensed medical 
clinical professionals of the meditating community.  

 In the initial e-mail came an enumerated problem-definition proposed as a 
series of talking points to serve as a meeting agenda for a meeting of the 
group.  A meeting room was arranged for on campus.  About 60 people came to the 
first meetings.  Right away this became a larger working group and the group 
formed right away into working sub-committees.  There then came a series of 
advertised public meetings forming as the Fairfield Mental Health Alliance 
(FMHA).   Productive work continued from then in a number of areas related to 
mental health and communal well-being in meditating Fairfield, Iowa. 

 The meetings of the group were open and public.  Any interested persons who 
were willing to work on areas related to community mental health were invited 
and free to attend.  It became a matter of interested people of goodwill 
showing up and a number of people came along into the process to work on 
different areas.  Quite a number of effective people came along into the 
process.  

 The weekly FMHA meetings typically were opened on time, the meetings were 
chaired and run by written agenda and consequently became very productive. 
Mid-week sub-committee meetings were held on different areas of work.  Reports 
then given every week in the larger general meetings. Quite a lot practical 
direct work in the service of bettering communal mental health and well-being 
was accomplished in the next couple of years.

 One area of the several areas of work (eleven sub-committees working at one 
point) was a sub-committee which looked at the role of the TM movement’s 
‘culture’ in the mental well-being of the meditating community.  At a point 
this ‘culture’ sub-committee of the FMHA became reconstituted in the fall of 
2014 through a strategic planning process and this ‘culture’ sub-committee has 
met weekly or more often since.  What became the focused work of the ‘culture’ 
sub-committee of the FMHA commenced from then. 

 From later in 2014 the ‘culture’ sub-committee set about in a process of 
research by gathering ‘cases’ of how cultural features peculiar to the TM 
movement affected people in their lives.  People working on this sub-committee 
then went out collecting cases of how people’s well-being had been affected by 
cultural aspects of the ™ movement.  This work was not about collecting 
opinions but instead a collecting of particular cases about what happened to 
people by record of direct narrative.  A growing case file of gathered cases 
emerged in this process as a pool of ‘data’. Cases came in and gathered. As 
direct narratives they came from all alumni groups or pools of the TM movement. 
They came from alumni of MIU, MUM, old TM teachers, old Governors, Re-certs, 
Purusha, Mother Divine, MSAE, University faculty and staff, and from meditators 
in the community.  

 A beauty to a process of collecting ‘case’ narratives is that as there comes 
to be enough cases collected they become data. Data, that in turn can be 
related to particular policy and initiatives that could be taken to improve 
aspects of the cultural life of the TM movement.  

 The cases often grouped as data clusters and subsequently this allowed for the 
generation of white papers which sought to clarify ways of thinking about 
cultural features peculiar to the meditating movement relating to communal 
well-being which could then be addressed by organizational policy of the 
University and the TM movement at large.  This work patiently continued in 
cycle based on cases as data, not just by opinion about what was wrong in 
policy or particular personnel but by case narratives, of circumstance.  
Evidently a lot of the problematic areas only needed some calm leadership to 
acknowledge and attend to them for remedy of circumstance.  
  
 In an ongoing process from the collected cases then white papers were 
circulated to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Botulism

2016-06-30 Thread feste37

Thanks, Mike. You're a real optimist. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 LOL! If you don't, you might. LOL!
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 7:02 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Botulism
 
 
   I'd rather get beheaded by ISIS than vote for Trump. 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <yifuxero@...> wrote :

 Somebody appeared on Fox and said he'd rather suffer from Botulism than vote 
for either Hillary or Trump.
 After reading the descriptions of Botulism's effects, I've decided not to 
pursue that course of action. (but otoh haven't decided as to which of the 
candidates is the lesser of evils).
 

  Botulism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism#/media/File:Clostridium_botulinum.jpg 
 
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism#/media/File:Clostridium_botulinum.jpg
 
 Botulism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism#/media/File:Clostridium_botulinum.jpg 
Botulism (Latin, botulus, a sausage[1]) is a rare and potentially fatal illness 
caused by botulinum toxin, a substance produced by the bacterium Clostridium 
botulin...


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Botulism

2016-06-29 Thread feste37

I'd rather get beheaded by ISIS than vote for Trump. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Somebody appeared on Fox and said he'd rather suffer from Botulism than vote 
for either Hillary or Trump.
 After reading the descriptions of Botulism's effects, I've decided not to 
pursue that course of action. (but otoh haven't decided as to which of the 
candidates is the lesser of evils).
 

  Botulism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism#/media/File:Clostridium_botulinum.jpg 
 
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism#/media/File:Clostridium_botulinum.jpg
 
 Botulism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulism#/media/File:Clostridium_botulinum.jpg 
Botulism (Latin, botulus, a sausage[1]) is a rare and potentially fatal illness 
caused by botulinum toxin, a substance produced by the bacterium Clostridium 
botulin...


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Food riots coming?

2016-06-27 Thread feste37

I do like kitty videos, actually. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 We need to find some kitty videos for feste. 
 
 Beautiful sunny day here too, 93  degrees.
 
 On 06/27/2016 12:28 PM, feste37 wrote:
 
   Mike talks about the possibility of a civil war and now you start banging on 
about food riots. I guess some people just love to catastrophize. 
 
 Beautiful sunny day here in Iowa . . .  

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 FEMA Contractor Predicts 'Social Unrest' Caused by 395% Food Price Spikes
 
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/fema-contractor-predicts-social-unrest-caused-by-395-food-price-spikes
 
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/fema-contractor-predicts-social-unrest-caused-by-395-food-price-spikes
 
 Solution?  Simple, take the food corporations out of the equation.  Shut down 
Monsanto.  Let people grow their own food (actually encourage here in the SF 
Bay Area).
 
 Don't let the rich treat you like a bunch of chickens in a coop.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Food riots coming?

2016-06-27 Thread feste37

Mike talks about the possibility of a civil war and now you start banging on 
about food riots. I guess some people just love to catastrophize. 

Beautiful sunny day here in Iowa . . .  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 FEMA Contractor Predicts 'Social Unrest' Caused by 395% Food Price Spikes
 
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/fema-contractor-predicts-social-unrest-caused-by-395-food-price-spikeshttp://motherboard.vice.com/read/fema-contractor-predicts-social-unrest-caused-by-395-food-price-spikes
 
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/fema-contractor-predicts-social-unrest-caused-by-395-food-price-spikes
 
 Solution?  Simple, take the food corporations out of the equation.  Shut down 
Monsanto.  Let people grow their own food (actually encourage here in the SF 
Bay Area).
 
 Don't let the rich treat you like a bunch of chickens in a coop.

Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

2016-06-27 Thread feste37

This country is not going to have a civil war on the issue of the appointment 
of Supreme Court justices. Have a bit of common sense, please. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Yeah, it's pretty wild and extreme but not out of the realm of possibilities. 
The *chatter* would definitely be on the increase. 65% of the people think the 
US is headed in the wrong direction as it is. Hillary will keep pushing it that 
way. A Supreme Court with 6-7 Justices like Ginsburg or her ilk, might just be 
a push too far.
 
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??
 
 
   Civil war? Oh come on, that's wild talk. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Trump wouldn't spend what he has, if he wasn't committed. His sons are running 
the family business.
 Republicans will drag their feet, kick and scream, yada yada yada,( this could 
be just a *show*). At the end of the day, it's him or Hillary. Hillary means at 
least four more years of what Obama has been and probably 3-5 far left Supreme 
Court Justices, which is even worse.At that point, anything is possible, even 
civil war.That is enough to make even the Bushes and Romney swallow their pride 
and vote Trump, whether they admit it or not(I'm sure they won't).

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:38 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 and burn his chubby little fingers? (emphasis on little...) 
 

 I'll let you in on a secret: Trump really doesn't want to be President. It is 
too nuanced a position for a coarse and simple-minded person like him, and he 
is both lost and frustrated attempting it. So he is self-sabotaging his chances 
at every turn. He will lose spectacularly.
 

 His only interest is in the idea of "winning". But he can't have it both ways 
because I agree with you, Ollie; I don't think he wants the job, he just wants 
bragging rights. He is realizing running for and possibly becoming President is 
way too expensive (he hates spending his money in this way), and doing so is 
getting in the way of his other business interests and he is realizing that is 
is just getting more and more demanding as he continues to make gaff after 
gaff. This is a downward spiral that will be a spectacular belly flop in the 
end and the GOP are frantically trying to figure out a game plan to save face. 
At this point there is a movement afoot by the delegates to find a way to 
change their allegiance to Trump at the Convention in July.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 It'd be more fun watching him pick up the shell casings falling all around her 
where ever she goes.
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

 
   It would be very gracious, once Hillary wins, to offer The Donald the 
position of chief groundskeeper at the White House, picking up after the 
Presidential pooch and trimming the hedges. Perhaps he could design a mini-golf 
course for them too. He would still be allowed to wear his little cap, silently 
proclaiming, "make America great again", while mowing the lawn. :-)
 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_(dog) 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_(dog) 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

  Aw-shucks , it's going to be a *landslide*.
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 11:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

 
   It will just look that way right up to the election (due to the magnifying 
effect of any right wing media shills). However, it will be a complete rout 
once the results come in. Doesn't really matter what percentage of the 
electorate decides to participate, won't affect the outcome a bit. Count on it.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <authfriend@...> wrote :

 Ollie, actually it's going to be uncomfortably close. You really don't want to 
discourage any Hillary voters from turning out. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <olliesedwuz@...> wrote :

 Yep, pretty much...even with the usual 50% that don't cast a vote in the 
Presidential elections, Trump will still get destroyed - It will be even more 
embarrassing than what happened to that Mormon hypocrite and Eddie Munster, 
last time. Of course the GOP could decide to try and unseat Trump at the 
convention, and do even worse...:-) 
---In FairfieldLife@y

Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

2016-06-27 Thread feste37

Civil war? Oh come on, that's wild talk. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Trump wouldn't spend what he has, if he wasn't committed. His sons are running 
the family business.
 Republicans will drag their feet, kick and scream, yada yada yada,( this could 
be just a *show*). At the end of the day, it's him or Hillary. Hillary means at 
least four more years of what Obama has been and probably 3-5 far left Supreme 
Court Justices, which is even worse.At that point, anything is possible, even 
civil war.That is enough to make even the Bushes and Romney swallow their pride 
and vote Trump, whether they admit it or not(I'm sure they won't).

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:38 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 and burn his chubby little fingers? (emphasis on little...) 
 

 I'll let you in on a secret: Trump really doesn't want to be President. It is 
too nuanced a position for a coarse and simple-minded person like him, and he 
is both lost and frustrated attempting it. So he is self-sabotaging his chances 
at every turn. He will lose spectacularly.
 

 His only interest is in the idea of "winning". But he can't have it both ways 
because I agree with you, Ollie; I don't think he wants the job, he just wants 
bragging rights. He is realizing running for and possibly becoming President is 
way too expensive (he hates spending his money in this way), and doing so is 
getting in the way of his other business interests and he is realizing that is 
is just getting more and more demanding as he continues to make gaff after 
gaff. This is a downward spiral that will be a spectacular belly flop in the 
end and the GOP are frantically trying to figure out a game plan to save face. 
At this point there is a movement afoot by the delegates to find a way to 
change their allegiance to Trump at the Convention in July.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It'd be more fun watching him pick up the shell casings falling all around her 
where ever she goes.
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 11:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

 
   It would be very gracious, once Hillary wins, to offer The Donald the 
position of chief groundskeeper at the White House, picking up after the 
Presidential pooch and trimming the hedges. Perhaps he could design a mini-golf 
course for them too. He would still be allowed to wear his little cap, silently 
proclaiming, "make America great again", while mowing the lawn. :-)
 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_(dog) 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_(dog) 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  Aw-shucks , it's going to be a *landslide*.
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 11:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

 
   It will just look that way right up to the election (due to the magnifying 
effect of any right wing media shills). However, it will be a complete rout 
once the results come in. Doesn't really matter what percentage of the 
electorate decides to participate, won't affect the outcome a bit. Count on it.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie, actually it's going to be uncomfortably close. You really don't want to 
discourage any Hillary voters from turning out. 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, pretty much...even with the usual 50% that don't cast a vote in the 
Presidential elections, Trump will still get destroyed - It will be even more 
embarrassing than what happened to that Mormon hypocrite and Eddie Munster, 
last time. Of course the GOP could decide to try and unseat Trump at the 
convention, and do even worse...:-) 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well... I guess there just won't be any urgency to go out and vote since it's 
a done deal. Right?
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 8:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

 
   
 It doesn't really matter what lies are spread about Clinton at this point. 
Trump will get stomped so badly in the general election, it will be a miracle 
if he amasses 10% of the electoral votes, total. I know all the Republicans are 
doing their best to fall in line behind him, but President Hillary Clinton is a 
done deal. The GOP is history.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Actually, it just happened to be in my face at the time. Due you still

[FairfieldLife] Re: Medical errors

2016-06-26 Thread feste37

Sounds like a plan. You go first!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "Due to a metaphysical error, I was born. How can I fight for changes to 
prevent this happening to others?"  

 Eduard von Hartmann [19th century] developed an extensive and unique treatment 
of universal suicide. It is heavily influenced by Buddhist thought.  

 Hartmann posits three stages of illusion to which humanity is subject: 
 (1) that “happiness is considered attainable by the individual of today in his 
earthly life”—this illusion is in Hartmann’s view exhibited particularly 
prominently in the ancient world and in childhood; 
 (2) that “happiness is conceived attainable by the individual in a 
transcendent life after death,” an illusion characteristic of the Middle Ages 
and youth; and 
 (3) that “happiness [is] relegated to the future of the world,” an illusion 
associated with modern times and adulthood. 
 

 Hartmann opposes the suicide of the individual as selfish and ethically 
reprehensible, but he argues that humanity—all humanity, everywhere—should will 
its own nonexistence [think Jonestown].
 

 He thought that the civilized world couldn't wait for aboriginal peoples to 
catch up with the latest advanced thinking and so they should be exterminated. 
(Been a while since I heard a German push that option.) Then we enlightened 
ones will all unite to top ourselves in a final consummation.
 

 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Due to a metaphysical error, I was born. How can I fight for changes to 
prevent this happening to others?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Due to a medical error, Dr. Frederick Southwick's lower leg had to be 
amputated. Now he fights for changes.
 Good luck!
 

 Losing My Leg to a Medical Error 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/losing-my-leg-to-a-medical-error.html?_r=0
 
 
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/losing-my-leg-to-a-medical-error.html?_r=0
 
 Losing My Leg to a Medical Error 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/losing-my-leg-to-a-medical-error.html?_r=0
 I lost my leg because of a preventable mistake.


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Medical errors

2016-06-26 Thread feste37

Due to a metaphysical error, I was born. How can I fight for changes to prevent 
this happening to others?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Due to a medical error, Dr. Frederick Southwick's lower leg had to be 
amputated. Now he fights for changes.
 Good luck!
 

 Losing My Leg to a Medical Error 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/losing-my-leg-to-a-medical-error.html?_r=0
 
 
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/losing-my-leg-to-a-medical-error.html?_r=0
 
 Losing My Leg to a Medical Error 
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/losing-my-leg-to-a-medical-error.html?_r=0
 I lost my leg because of a preventable mistake.


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

2016-06-26 Thread feste37

Of course I know what an Executive Order is, but if you think that Hillary is
planning to sign such an order to "take away" our Social Security, I think you
are sadly misinformed.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

On 06/26/2016 12:25 PM, feste37 wrote:

Just how do you suppose that Hillary is going to "take away" our Social
Security? You think a president can just sign something or give an order, and
it magically happens? That's what Trump seems to think. And what basis do you
have for making such an allegation in the first place? It is just a crude and
silly accusation designed to scare people.

Do you know what an Executive Order is? It's very unconstitutional and a
power a US president shouldn't have. Turns them into a dictator. And yes she
would have a tough time taking away Social Security but have you forgotten that
Dubya even mentioned it during his term. And I've heard conservatives say if a
President were to do that seniors would burn down the country.

And why do you assume that "taking away" Social Security would leave "many
here on FFL destitute." You have information about the finances of people who
post here? How fascinating. Where did you get it?

From friends that live in Fairfield. Not everyone is well off there.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

Why is it the "weirdest post of the week?" You trust Clinton? Or are you
just going along for the partying?

On 06/26/2016 10:16 AM, feste37 wrote:

weirdest post of the week.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

If Hillary were to win she would most likely take away Social Security and
leave many here on FFL destitute.

On 06/26/2016 09:20 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

ROFLMAO. No, I don't think so.
I was watching the News programs this morning, you know, *Meet The Depressed*
etc. Many are coming to the conclusion, finally, that the Brexit vote was the
people standing up to the Elite politicians of either party and saying "Fuck
you! You're not telling us what's best for us anymore! We've seen what you've
done! We're charting a new course".

Hillary is more of the same, elite politicians telling us what's good for us.
She's a power hungry liar, out to feather her own nest at everyone else's
expense, tossing crumbs out to entice idiots to follow her.
Not going there.

From: feste37 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com<no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

But there's still plenty of time for you to see the light, even down there
in benighted Texas, and vote for the superior candidate.

---In mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@...<mdixon.6569@...>
mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :

Yeah, feste, it's all over and it isn't even July. I guess you can relax.

From: feste37 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com<no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

Sorry Mike but it's all over. Your candidate is crashing, as I knew he
would.

In new poll, support for Trump has plunged, giving Clinton a double-digit lead

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-new-poll-support-for-trump-plunges-giving-clinton-a-double-digit-lead/2016/06/25/0565bef6-3a31-11e6-a254-2b336e293a3c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_poll-0904am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

In new poll, support for Trump has plunged, giving Clint... Half are anxious
about a Clinton presidency; some with reservations about Trump say they will
vote for him anyway.

View on www.washingtonpost http://www.washingtonpost...
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---In mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@...<mdixon.6569@...>
mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :

Feste, you can reassure yourself all you want but the fact is, he's neck and
neck with Hillary in Ohio and Pennsylvania. However, she has a stronger lead in
Florida at the moment. These will be key battle ground states. It doesn't
really matter what his disapproval ratings are if Hillary's aren't
significantly better. And she needs to stay out of trouble.

Hillary's best hope is that things settle down in Europe with Immigrants and
their rioting and c

Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

2016-06-26 Thread feste37

And why do you assume that "taking away" Social Security would leave "many here
on FFL destitute." You have information about the finances of people who post
here? How fascinating. Where did you get it?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Why is it the "weirdest post of the week?" You trust Clinton? Or are you
just going along for the partying?

On 06/26/2016 10:16 AM, feste37 wrote:

weirdest post of the week.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

If Hillary were to win she would most likely take away Social Security and
leave many here on FFL destitute.

On 06/26/2016 09:20 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

But there's still plenty of time for you to see the light, even down there
in benighted Texas, and vote for the superior candidate.

---In mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@...
wrote :

Yeah, feste, it's all over and it isn't even July. I guess you can relax.

Sorry Mike but it's all over. Your candidate is crashing, as I knew he
would.

In new poll, support for Trump has plunged, giving Clinton a double-digit lead

In new poll, support for Trump has plunged, giving Clint... Half are anxious
about a Clinton presidency; some with reservations about Trump say they will
vote for him anyway.

View on www.washingtonpost http://www.washingtonpost...
Preview by Yahoo

---In mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:mdixon.6569@...<mdixon.6569@...>
mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :

Hillary's best hope is that things settle down in Europe with Immigrants and
their rioting and crime and hope there aren't any Jihadi events. And that
Immigrants here keep a low profile without any further terrorist activity.
Nothing riles people up more than Mexicans waving Mexican flags here, acting as
if they have a right to be here and attacking citizens going to political
events or Muslims on Jihad.

From: feste37 mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com<no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comfairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

2016-06-26 Thread feste37

weirdest post of the week.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

If Hillary were to win she would most likely take away Social Security and
leave many here on FFL destitute.

On 06/26/2016 09:20 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

But there's still plenty of time for you to see the light, even down there
in benighted Texas, and vote for the superior candidate.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :

Yeah, feste, it's all over and it isn't even July. I guess you can relax.

Sorry Mike but it's all over. Your candidate is crashing, as I knew he
would.

In new poll, support for Trump has plunged, giving Clinton a double-digit lead

In new poll, support for Trump has plunged, giving Clint... Half are anxious
about a Clinton presidency; some with reservations about Trump say they will
vote for him anyway.

View on www.washingtonpost http://www.washingtonpost...
Preview by Yahoo

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

Trump has never been "popular," as you put it. He has appealed only to a
very narrow band of voters. His disapproval ratings are now going through the
roof -- around 70% last time I looked. I think this may get even worse for him
as the campaign goes on. Did you see his idiotic comments on Brexit? He is
simply not up to the job, and almost everyone now knows it.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :

Judy, when I say Brexit was a *done deal*, I'm referring to the idea, that
the results of that vote fooled the pundits, all of the experts.
Almost every week since last summer, nearly every political pundit was heard
or seen saying that Trump's latest comment was the one that would finish him.
He can't *win* any longer. His political *blunders* only made him stronger and
more popular to everyone's astonishment. There was always an excuse why he
couldn't go on.

You're making the same *possible* mistake. "Oh, he only won primaries" , No
more of those, now he can't possibly win any more voters.

Well, there are about 20% of voters who haven't made up their minds yet. As
far as Republicans go, many are not enthusiastic about him, don't like him,
even hate him but... the overwhelming majority know the consequences of *not*
vo

Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

2016-06-26 Thread feste37

But there's still plenty of time for you to see the light, even down there in
benighted Texas, and vote for the superior candidate.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Yeah, feste, it's all over and it isn't even July. I guess you can relax.

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

Sorry Mike but it's all over. Your candidate is crashing, as I knew he
would.

In new poll, support for Trump has plunged, giving Clinton a double-digit lead
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-new-poll-support-for-trump-plunges-giving-clinton-a-double-digit-lead/2016/06/25/0565bef6-3a31-11e6-a254-2b336e293a3c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_poll-0904am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

In new poll, support for Trump has plunged, giving Clint...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-new-poll-support-for-trump-plunges-giving-clinton-a-double-digit-lead/2016/06/25/0565bef6-3a31-11e6-a254-2b336e293a3c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_poll-0904am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Half are anxious about a Clinton presidency; some with reservations about
Trump say they will vote for him anyway.

View on www.washingtonpost...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-new-poll-support-for-trump-plunges-giving-clinton-a-double-digit-lead/2016/06/25/0565bef6-3a31-11e6-a254-2b336e293a3c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_poll-0904am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

You're making the same *possible* mistake. "Oh, he only won primaries" , No
more of those, now he can't possibly win any more voters.

The undecided voters are another story. Be my guest if you want to
underestimate Trump's ability to gain their support but you better hope things
in Europe get quiet. There is an anti-immigrant sentiment growing in the west.
More and more people are demanding that our borders, customs and culture be
respected and terrorism addressed effectively instead of justified.

From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

Trump has won *primaries*, Mike. There was no Brexit primary. Winning
primaries is very different from winning a general election. Trump doesn't have
any more primaries to win. You can't say "He keeps winni

Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

2016-06-26 Thread feste37

Sorry Mike but it's all over. Your candidate is crashing, as I knew he would.

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

You're making the same *possible* mistake. "Oh, he only won primaries" , No
more of those, now he can't possibly win any more voters.

From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

Ollie's wrong to say it's a "done deal" for Hillary to win, but you're wrong
to suggest the Brexit vote tells us anything about the U.S. general election
vote.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

The anti-Brexit vote was a *done deal*.
Trump has been forecast, by the media, to lose almost every week since last
year but he keeps winning.
He'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rowling tweet: Scotland will seek indepence now!

2016-06-26 Thread feste37

Texas won't. Scotland will. Weep for the UK, a once great nation. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Now it's your turn . . .  

 http://www.thetnm.org/ http://www.thetnm.org/

Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

2016-06-25 Thread feste37

Trump has never been "popular," as you put it. He has appealed only to a very 
narrow band of voters. His disapproval ratings are now going through the roof 
-- around 70% last time I looked. I think this may get even worse for him as 
the campaign goes on. Did you see his idiotic comments on Brexit? He is simply 
not up to the job, and almost everyone now knows it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Judy, when I say Brexit was a *done deal*, I'm referring to the idea, that  
the results of that vote fooled the pundits, all of the experts.
 Almost every week since last summer, nearly every political pundit was heard 
or seen saying that Trump's latest comment was the one that would finish him. 
He can't *win* any longer. His political *blunders* only made him stronger and 
more popular to everyone's astonishment. There was always an excuse why he 
couldn't go on.

 You're making the same *possible* mistake. "Oh, he only won primaries" , No 
more of those, now he can't possibly win any more voters.
 

  Well, there are about 20% of voters who haven't made up their minds yet. As 
far as Republicans go, many are not enthusiastic about him, don't like him, 
even hate him but... the overwhelming majority know the consequences of *not* 
voting for him. *Never Hillary* will be the rallying cry.
 
 The undecided voters are another story. Be my guest if you want to 
underestimate Trump's ability to gain their support but you better hope things 
in Europe get quiet. There is an anti-immigrant sentiment growing in the west. 
More and more people are demanding that our borders, customs and culture be 
respected and terrorism addressed effectively instead of justified.


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 8:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??
 
 
   Trump has won *primaries*, Mike. There was no Brexit primary. Winning 
primaries is very different from winning a general election. Trump doesn't have 
any more primaries to win. You can't say "He keeps winning" unless he wins the 
general election.
 

 Ollie's wrong to say it's a "done deal" for Hillary to win, but you're wrong 
to suggest the Brexit vote tells us anything about the U.S. general election 
vote.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The anti-Brexit vote was a *done deal*.
 Trump has been forecast, by the media, to lose almost every week since last 
year but he keeps winning.
  He's the most underestimated candidate in recent history, to ever run but he 
keeps winning.
  *Maybe* he won't win but if Hillary does, and manages to survive, she'll have 
one hell of a time governing. She'll need ISIS to protect her. LOL
 My vote just canceled yours out!


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 10:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well... I guess there just won't be any urgency to go out and vote since it's 
a done deal. Right?
 
 

 No Mikey, it is not a done deal until the vote is in. You and me and everyone 
else has to vote but when they and we do Trump will stomp off in a snit because 
not only did he lose but he will have lost really, really badly. It is a done 
deal in theory but it will be a done deal and Trump's losing deal once the 
votes are counted - but vote we must. Count me 1 for Hillary.


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 8:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

 
   
 It doesn't really matter what lies are spread about Clinton at this point. 
Trump will get stomped so badly in the general election, it will be a miracle 
if he amasses 10% of the electoral votes, total. I know all the Republicans are 
doing their best to fall in line behind him, but President Hillary Clinton is a 
done deal. The GOP is history.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Actually, it just happened to be in my face at the time. Due you still think 
that the FBI is.  *not* investigating Hillary and only looking into the 
security of her server?
 Talk about gullibility and critical thinking skills. 

 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] This up yet??

 
   Yes, gullible, and lacking in critical thinking skills.
 

 You know why the Bosnia story was such a huge deal? Because there was actual 
*evidence* for it, unlike most of the other anti-Clinton stories. In and of 
itself, it was pretty insignificant.
 

 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Brits in the Forum:

2016-06-24 Thread feste37

Britain never adopted the euro. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Since you voted to leave the European Union, does that mean that your country 
cannot use the euro dollar anymore?  How will tourists in the UK be affected, 
in terms of passports and currencies to use?
 

 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/britain-has-voted-to-leave-the-eu-%e2%80%93-what-happens-next/ar-AAhz7KD?ocid=spartandhp
 
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/britain-has-voted-to-leave-the-eu-%e2%80%93-what-happens-next/ar-AAhz7KD?ocid=spartandhp

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread feste37

And of course, we all know that the poor citizens of Australia and Britain, who
are not permitted to own guns, are suffering under terrible tyrannical
governments.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote :

Yes, if only the Jews had had a pistol or two lying around in their houses the
Holocaust might never have happened!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a quiet little town.

Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with armed robberies and
home invasions. People have a right to defend themselves. Police can't do it.
They just come and take a report.

Take that to another level. The Jews, as well as the rest of Germany, were
completely disarmed by the Nazis and the Nazis had their way with them.
The last thing a tyrant wants is resistance.
The founding fathers of our country foresaw this and wanted the people armed
and dangerous for any tyrant. They didn't want the people to fear the
government, they wanted the government to fear the people. That is the primary
reason for the second amendment.

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the gun
laws have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a concealed carry
permit, you had to say why you needed it. Now, you just get issued with it, no
questions asked, apparently.

In Fairfield, I doubt that there are many people who carry a concealed weapon.
There is no need for such a thing here. I would like to ask such people what
they are frightened of. I read another article based on some kind of research
that pointed out that if people are in an environment where they know there are
guns, they will be more tensed up and aggressive. I think that is likely among
gun carriers too. They are ready to defend themselves, but in my view that is
more likely to attract aggression from others rather than repel it.

Perhaps the 2nd Amendment served some useful purpose at some point in US
history, but it has outlived its usefulness. I would repeal it and put an end
to the romanticization of guns and gun violence, including the erroneous notion
that you cannot be or feel safe unless you carry a gun.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

Sorry Feste, but that's the way the discussion was coming off, very shallow
and uninformed. At least someone could have posted the what the gun laws are
in the US to make for a more "informed" opinion. Even the Wikipedia entry
would be sufficient though folks could look up the legislation for even more
depth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_Stateshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_in_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Firearms_Act

Such shallowness makes the denizens here look like "Eloi". I've been to
Fairfield and know there is a fairly significant part of the population that no
longer follows the TMO. They've moved on. Few of those post here.

One of the first things I heard on local talk radio was a journalist explain
the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons. Also there was
some puzzlement from military folks about how the Orlando gunman was able to
kill 50 people without reloading clips multiple times giving an opportunity to
jump him. This leads to speculation of a second gunman and a "staged event".
Also Russ Baker, an investigative reporter, raises some issues about the
shooter:

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfill the agenda of
their wealthy owners.

On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:

This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long
ago), when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily,
gratuitous attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread feste37

Yes, if only the Jews had had a pistol or two lying around in their houses the
Holocaust might never have happened!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Feste, I don't know where you live but Fairfield is a quiet little town.

Try living in a major city where crime is rampant with armed robberies and
home invasions. People have a right to defend themselves. Police can't do it.
They just come and take a report.

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfill the agenda of
their wealthy owners.

On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot
Act). However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic
weapons. Most folks here though probably don't know the difference between an
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living
in remote Fairfield.

On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... ma

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread feste37

As far as Iowa is concerned, I remember reading a while back that the gun laws
have been loosened. It used to be that if you wanted a concealed carry permit,
you had to say why you needed it. Now, you just get issued with it, no
questions asked, apparently.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

http://whowhatwhy.org/2016/06/17/russ-baker-dont-rush-judgement-orlando-shooting/

The mainstream media fictionalizes a lot of the news to fulfill the agenda of
their wealthy owners.

On 06/18/2016 04:30 AM, feste37 wrote:

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
<noozguru@...> mailto:noozguru@... wrote :

On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/

"Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something
like this. “You want to...

Here you go.

From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread feste37

That's good to hear, Mike. I had assumed you were armed to the teeth to protect 
yourself from marauding bands of illegal immigrants and radical Muslims. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 LOL. I've been around for years and have had worse said about me, constantly. 
I don't usually take things personally. It's like water off of a ducks back for 
me.
 As for guns, I don't currently own any. I have in the past but have found 
little need for one now. But I do respect their legal and appropriate use.  I 
do hunt but it's with my falcons. I just coordinate an event that happens 
naturally so that I can witness natures 
ballet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ_VuDzqH1k 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ_VuDzqH1k


 

 "The Boys" Sterner Hybrids Hit Harder #2 Black Gyr/Peregrine Hybrids catch 
sage grouse. From the documentary film: "Look Up and Wave Your Glove"... 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ_VuDzqH1k
 




 


 From: "hondosavgae2@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 8:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

 
   

 It looks like some on this forum are attacking Mike. Probably one in ten 
Fairfield residents are armed with a hand gun or a rifle. Gun laws in Iowa 
allows people to carry, openly or concealed, any kind of weapon, so long as 
that weapon is not otherwise illegal to own in Iowa.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.

Re: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

2016-06-18 Thread feste37

This post reminds me of the bad old days of FFL (actually, not too long ago), 
when TMers and people who live in Fairfield were subjected to daily, gratuitous 
attacks on this forum. Completely unnecessary and also stupid. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Second Amendment aside, I still maintain it is healthy to let the populace own 
guns as it tends to thwart any idea of complete takeover by a coup d'etat 
(which some will maintain has already happened in the US and is taking it's 
time for complete takeover with replacement of the Constitution by the Patriot 
Act).  However nothing wrong with disallowing the ownership of automatic 
weapons.  Most folks here though probably don't know  the difference between an 
automatic and semi-automatic due to their sheltered lives as TM'ers and living 
in remote Fairfield.
 
 On 06/17/2016 08:28 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 
http://www.bearingarms.com/bob-o/2014/06/24/well-regulated/ 

 

 
 
 
 "Well-Regulated" - Bearing Arms - Second Amendment, Well-Regulated We hear it 
constantly from droning citizen control cultists. The argument goes something 
like this. “You want to...
 
 
 

 Here you go.
 
 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife]  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, June 17, 2016 8:48 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Mike

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hoo Boy

2016-06-17 Thread feste37


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <awoelflebater@...> wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <noozguru@...> wrote :

 What if Hillary gets indicted? She's a war monger.  America is screwed any way 
you look at it.
 

 Call me crazy but very few women are "war mongers", it is not in their makeup 
or their genetics and Hillary is not blood thirsty. She is ambitious and driven 
but hers is not bloodlust.

It's hard for a woman in politics. She has to show she is tough -- as tough as 
a man. So she ends up overcompensating. She absolutely cannot afford to be seen 
as weak. The results may be unfortunate. 
 On 06/16/2016 06:05 PM, feste37 wrote:
 
   Why bother? Trump's response to Orlando was awful. That's what you get when 
you nominate someone with no political experience. In addition to being a 
jackass and a charlatan, he is a rookie politician who has suddenly landed on 
the big stage and is way, way out of his depth. I see a landslide coming for 
Hillary. Unless the Republicans finally decide, at the last minute, to dump him 
as their candidate. They ought to. 
 
 Never Trump. Never ever. 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
<mdixon.6569@...> mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :
 
 Wow! Trumps coming here tomorrow, might have to go. But probably too much 
traffic to get near.
 
 
 

 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:awoelflebater@...[FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM
 Subject: [Fa! irfieldLife] Hoo Boy
 
 
   
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/a-journalist-went-to-a-donald-trump-rally-yesterday-and-came-back-shocked-here-are-his-tweets/http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/a-journalist-went-to-a-donald-trump-rally-yesterday-and-came-back-shocked-here-are-his-tweets/
 
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/a-journalist-went-to-a-donald-trump-rally-yesterday-and-came-back-shocked-here-are-his-tweets/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hoo Boy

2016-06-16 Thread feste37

Why bother? Trump's response to Orlando was awful. That's what you get when you 
nominate someone with no political experience. In addition to being a jackass 
and a charlatan, he is a rookie politician who has suddenly landed on the big 
stage and is way, way out of his depth. I see a landslide coming for Hillary. 
Unless the Republicans finally decide, at the last minute, to dump him as their 
candidate. They ought to. 

Never Trump. Never ever. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Wow! Trumps coming here tomorrow, might have to go. But probably too much 
traffic to get near.
 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 10:39 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Hoo Boy
 
 
   
 
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/a-journalist-went-to-a-donald-trump-rally-yesterday-and-came-back-shocked-here-are-his-tweets/
 
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2016/06/a-journalist-went-to-a-donald-trump-rally-yesterday-and-came-back-shocked-here-are-his-tweets/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Christian homophobia

2016-06-14 Thread feste37

Wow. This guy is a psycho masquerading as a minister of religion. Unbelievable. 
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sacramento pastor: Orlando mass shooting victims “deserve what they got” 
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/14/sacramento_pastor_orlando_mass_shooting_victims_deserve_what_they_got/

 
 
 
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/14/sacramento_pastor_orlando_mass_shooting_victims_deserve_what_they_got/
 
 Sacramento pastor: Orlando mass shooting victims “dese... 
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/14/sacramento_pastor_orlando_mass_shooting_victims_deserve_what_they_got/
 Baptist Pastor Roger Jimenez then asked his congregation if they're "sad that 
50 pedophiles were killed today"


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

2016-06-12 Thread feste37

You miss my point. Why make it easy for anyone who wants to commit mass murder? 
No one needs an assault weapon. People bent on violence will do it anyway but 
let's not enable them to do it with ease courtesy of our truly demented gun 
laws. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 They don't need assault weapons. A common semi- automatic dear rifle would get 
the same job done, a suicide belt, a bomb.
 The Koran ban was tongue-n- cheek.
 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 3:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA
 
 
   You want to ban the Koran from public places but what about these guys with 
murder in their hearts running around with assault weapons -- no doubt legally 
obtained. We used to have a ban on these weapons (in the Clinton 
administration) but it was allowed to expire under Bush. I am in favor of 
banning these weapons, which no one needs, once again, rather than banning 
books. 

You cannot decry Islamic-inspired terrorism and at the same time support the 
insane US gun culture that makes such mayhem ridiculously easy. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 I don't have psychic vision as you do but he did tweet out an * I told you so*.
 Another plot broken up in LA. Man on his way to a Gay Pride Parade arrested 
with assault rifles and explosives. Ethnicity not noted. OF course if he were a 
White Christian, it would be all over the place by now.
 You know, after the mass shooting in South Carolina, much ado was made about a 
picture of the shooter with a Confederate flag and it has been banned in public 
places all over the country as a symbol of hate. Time to ban the Koran from 
public places for the same.
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Today's death toll so far, 50+ by Muslim extremest of  Afghan immigrant 
parents. Obama and Hillary want more Muslim immigrants. Of course, Trump wants 
a temporary end to Muslim immigration until better vetting can occur. Democrats 
see nothing wrong with our vetting process now, it's adequate.

 

 At this moment, Trump is doing a happy dance behind closed doors. All he will 
recognize the massacre as is a way to promote his agenda of hate against all 
Muslims. Kinda like him wishing so many would default on their mortgages back 
in 2008 so he could swoop in and fly away with the carrion.
 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

 
   
 Xenophobic because they don't assimilate into new cultures, remains separate 
and feel superior, Homophobic because they kill gay people and feel it a 
religious duty( see today's mass killing in Orlando),Misogynistic total control 
of females and their behavior, racist because they still practice slavery, even 
today, intolerant of all other religions, speaks for it self, death to the 
infidel.
 

 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

 
   
 Sounds you're talking about Muslims... Xenophobic, homophobic,misogynistic, 
racist, and intolerant of all other religions.
 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Mamas don't let your babies grow up to play video games and live in your 
basement.
or 

 Mamas don't let you babies grow up to be Muslims.

 
 might be a little more appropriate.

 

 Mamas don't have no control over who becomes what. How about don't grow up to 
be xenophobic, racist or intolerant of other's religion? 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

 
   
 Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.
Don't let 'em pick guitars or drive them old trucks.
Let 'em be doctors and lawyers and such.
Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.
'Cos they'll never stay home and they're always alone.
Even with someone they love.

 

 According to the Mass Shooting Tracker,

Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

2016-06-12 Thread feste37

You want to ban the Koran from public places but what about these guys with 
murder in their hearts running around with assault weapons -- no doubt legally 
obtained. We used to have a ban on these weapons (in the Clinton 
administration) but it was allowed to expire under Bush. I am in favor of 
banning these weapons, which no one needs, once again, rather than banning 
books. 

You cannot decry Islamic-inspired terrorism and at the same time support the 
insane US gun culture that makes such mayhem ridiculously easy. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I don't have psychic vision as you do but he did tweet out an * I told you so*.
 Another plot broken up in LA. Man on his way to a Gay Pride Parade arrested 
with assault rifles and explosives. Ethnicity not noted. OF course if he were a 
White Christian, it would be all over the place by now.
 You know, after the mass shooting in South Carolina, much ado was made about a 
picture of the shooter with a Confederate flag and it has been banned in public 
places all over the country as a symbol of hate. Time to ban the Koran from 
public places for the same.
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Today's death toll so far, 50+ by Muslim extremest of  Afghan immigrant 
parents. Obama and Hillary want more Muslim immigrants. Of course, Trump wants 
a temporary end to Muslim immigration until better vetting can occur. Democrats 
see nothing wrong with our vetting process now, it's adequate.

 

 At this moment, Trump is doing a happy dance behind closed doors. All he will 
recognize the massacre as is a way to promote his agenda of hate against all 
Muslims. Kinda like him wishing so many would default on their mortgages back 
in 2008 so he could swoop in and fly away with the carrion.
 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

 
   
 Xenophobic because they don't assimilate into new cultures, remains separate 
and feel superior, Homophobic because they kill gay people and feel it a 
religious duty( see today's mass killing in Orlando),Misogynistic total control 
of females and their behavior, racist because they still practice slavery, even 
today, intolerant of all other religions, speaks for it self, death to the 
infidel.
 

 
 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

 
   
 Sounds you're talking about Muslims... Xenophobic, homophobic,misogynistic, 
racist, and intolerant of all other religions.
 

 
 


 From: "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 8:44 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Mamas don't let your babies grow up to play video games and live in your 
basement.
or 

 Mamas don't let you babies grow up to be Muslims.

 
 might be a little more appropriate.

 

 Mamas don't have no control over who becomes what. How about don't grow up to 
be xenophobic, racist or intolerant of other's religion? 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:14 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] VIOLENCE IN AMERICA

 
   
 Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.
Don't let 'em pick guitars or drive them old trucks.
Let 'em be doctors and lawyers and such.
Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys.
'Cos they'll never stay home and they're always alone.
Even with someone they love.

 

 According to the Mass Shooting Tracker, there were 372 mass shootings - 
defined as a single incident that kills or injures four or more people - in the 
US in 2015. Some 475 people were killed and 1,8760 wounded.

[FairfieldLife] a poem for Ann

2016-06-08 Thread feste37

Come into Animal Presence By Denise Levertov 
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poets/detail/denise-levertov 
 
 http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poets/detail/denise-levertov 
 
 Denise Levertov 
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poets/detail/denise-levertov 
During the course of a prolific career, Denise Levertov created a highly 
regarded body of poetry that reflects her beliefs as an artist and a humanist. 
Her work emb...
 
 
 
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 Come into animal presence.

 No man is so guileless as

 the serpent. The lonely white

 rabbit on the roof is a star

 twitching its ears at the rain.

 The llama intricately

 folding its hind legs to be seated

 not disdains but mildly

 disregards human approval.

 What joy when the insouciant

 armadillo glances at us and doesn't

 quicken his trotting

 across the track into the palm brush.

 

 What is this joy? That no animal

 falters, but knows what it must do?

 That the snake has no blemish,

 that the rabbit inspects his strange surroundings

 in white star-silence? The llama

 rests in dignity, the armadillo

 has some intention to pursue in the palm-forest.

 Those who were sacred have remained so,

 holiness does not dissolve, it is a presence

 of bronze, only the sight that saw it

 faltered and turned from it.

 An old joy returns in holy presence.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

2016-06-07 Thread feste37

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

These ISIS jihadists are the current manifestations of the asuras or devils in
Nature. They are lower than human beings, but are considered above animals
in the Vedic hierarchy of creatures on earth.

Bullshit, I'll take an animal any day. Animals are, much of the time, "above"
human beings let alone these ISIS monsters. So, what makes a human so special?
The fact that they, supposedly, can come to "know" God? Animals are born
knowing God.

I owned a cat for 14 years. I do not believe he "knew God," or if he did he
sure was not saying. But he certainly knew how to get me to give him food and
open doors for him, although in his opinion I was always too slow in performing
both these tasks, which sometimes sorely tested his patience.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

The methods they use to kill those that refuse to follow them are
horrendous.They make the NAZIS seem like Boy scouts.

From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

MD,

The current news say that ISIS jihadists are killing civilians in Fallujah.
Also, if the Iraqi forces ever catch Al Baghdadi, the high priest of ISIS,
alive, they should charge him with crimes against humanity and hang him high
just like Saddam Hussein.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Can I get a great big *Aloha Snickbar* for that?
I think they also uncovered a mass grave of about 400 .

From: "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 10:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Another Town is Liberated from ISIS

It's a great victory for the Iraqi people. But I'm afraid the ISIS
terrorists may be waiting to commit their last act of infamy when they're
cornered to face imminent death and defeat.

Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic State
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma

https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma

Town near Falluja "liberated" from Islamic Sta...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/town-near-falluja-liberated-islamic-043739785.html?soc_src=mail_trk=ma
Iraqi security forces and Shi'ite militia "liberate" Saqlawiya town from
Islamic State militants, as the battle to recapture the nearby city of Falluj...

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

2016-06-06 Thread feste37

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 Ummm. dude, I've known about Islam and Jihad since 1973. Studied comparative 
religions and Asian studies in school. The first thing I learned about Islam 
was that it was spread by the sword. Forced conversions. Submit to Allah or 
die. That is what Islam means, submission to Allah. The Dravidians in India put 
their foot down and resisted, fought back and stopped the slaughter and 
destruction of the ancient Vedic temples and their culture in  Southern India. 
It was too late for the north. Even Maharishi used to say that much of the 
vedic knowledge and culture was lost because of the Muslim invasion of 
India.The Spanish had to drive them out of Spain and back to Morocco. The 
Romanians and Hungarians had a tough time also but got them back  to Turkey. 
They destroy the host culture where ever they go and try to take over 
politically. History is repeating itself right now in Europe.

But this time, the Europeans are not fighting back! Within 50 years or so, 
maybe less, Europe will be unrecognizable from what it is now. For some reason 
(relentless inculcation of "white guilt" by liberals?) Europeans seem to have 
no will to defend their civilization, their values, or their priceless cultural 
heritage. I find this both sad and incomprehensible. 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike 
in Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might.
 

 So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in 
schools as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books 
written about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, 
wait, I remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began 
slaughtering their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they 
began hitting back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a 
shit about Islam as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
 

 I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had 
the occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them 
just as much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. 
Military 101.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

2016-06-06 Thread feste37

I think it is you who have your fruit mixed up. That cruise missile you mention 
was fired by the US government, a secular organization. My comments were in 
response to your post that made an equivalence between Islamic and Christian 
fundamentalism. 

And it wasn't so long ago (1998 or 1999) that the US military was bombing the 
hell out of a Christian country (Serbia) in defense of Muslims (in Kosovo). 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Apples and oranges. Oh, and remind me, did that recent cruise missile strike 
in Fairfield kill anyone, or simply level a bunch of buildings? I admire your 
peaceful attitude in the face of such military might. 

 So, when did we become aware of radical Islam? Did we learn about it in 
schools as part of the world history lesson, or perhaps read all of those books 
written about it, back in the 60's, 70's and 80's (there weren't any)? Oh, 
wait, I remember, it was after we had invaded their countries and began 
slaughtering their families, that radical Islam emerged in a big way, and they 
began hitting back. Prior to that communism was the big evil - no one gave a 
shit about Islam as a current political force, including the Muslims. 
 

 I am aware that no one wants to see this obvious connection, but truly, had 
the occupants of Iraq and Iran been Mormons, we'd find excuses to hate them 
just as much. It is much harder to kill your enemies unless you demonize them. 
Military 101.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?

2016-06-06 Thread feste37

Ollie says: "Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and 
unhinged as their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all."

This is sheer nonsense. Were I a peace-loving Muslim living in the US, it would 
not bother me if there were several fundamentalist Christian churches nearby. I 
would be more concerned about being harassed on the street by ignorant American 
louts who have no religion in them. But if I were a peace-loving Christian, and 
there was a Muslim mosque nearby preaching fundamentalist, radical Islam, I 
would be worried. The difference is simple: the propensity to use deadly 
violence against innocent people. Christians neither advocate it nor do it; 
some Muslims, unfortunately, do. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Right, we didn't invade "Islam". No, it was sovereign nations we invaded. No 
bigee, right? Yep, I would expect this intemperate reaction from you, Mike. As 
I said, and you are proving, the mindset between the fundamentalist Christians 
and the fundamentalist Muslims, is EXACTLY THE SAME. Of course you would see 
all bad in them, and all good on your side. Identical to the way they feel. 
Make no mistake, the fundamentalist Christians are as scary and unhinged as 
their fundamentalist Muslim brethren. Different book cover is all.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 We didn't invade *Islam*. Secondly, Islam's history is one of violence, 
conversion by the sword, nearly everywhere it has spread. Apostasy from Islam 
is punishable by death according to Sharia which is observed in many Islamic 
nations. no... it's not violent! 
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Religion of peace?
 
 
   It is a BS argument to begin with, the crap about Islam being an innately 
violent religion. For one thing, WE invaded THEM.
 

 Imagine this scenario - A well trained force of overwhelming military might 
begins bombing Britain, landing ground forces, and exterminating the populace. 
Martial law is declared, and freedom along with any civil rights vanishes. Then 
when you strike back, the occupying army blames your religion for your 
"emotional" reaction. Pretty f'ing sick, if you ask me. Demonic even.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Suppose I were to say to you: "If you see a group of Germans you should a toss 
a grenade into their midst and let them share it out between them." Would not 
that be a vile piece of advice? 

 But if you were a G.I. about to land on a Normandy beach in 1944 could that 
not be just the sort of advice to perk you up before the attack?
 

 A lot of Mo's sayings could be (possibly) excused on the grounds that Muslims 
were engaged in a war with Jews and infidels. The problem is that we are 
talking about a struggle a long, long time ago and many Muslims don't seem to 
realise that the connected world we now live in is nothing like seventh-century 
Arabia.
 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Religion of peace?

2016-06-05 Thread feste37

I agree with Mike on this. Although there are exceptions, Christian 
fundamentalists do not advocate violence or terrorism. To speak of "Christian" 
terrorism as if it were interchangeable with Islamic terrorism is misleading in 
the extreme. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I know... all those Christian suicide bombers have just been reeking  havoc 
all over the world. And Christians threatening to kill you if you insult them 
or their beliefs, have also been a major problem. Using Christ's own words and 
his example to justify their actions to murder, behead, stone people to death, 
in order to convert them, has just been an enormous problem.
 
 


 From: "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 9:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Religion of peace?
 
 
   
 Yes, and simply substitute 'Christianity' for 'Islam' in your paragraph and 
the same is true. The militant Christian fundamentalists hate the militant 
Muslim fundamentalists so much, because it is like looking in a mirror, but 
waving a different "holy book". Same level of consciousness in both.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Maybe.. on some extremely high level, with people of extreme intelligence 
practicing it, Islam *may* be a religion of peace. Just trying to give the 
benefit of  doubt here.

  But for the masses of today?
  There is a saying: a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

 Islam in the wrong hands is dangerous.
 


 From: "hepa7@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 8:11 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Religion of peace?

 
   
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

 
 
 The Quran's Verses of Violence 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx A sampling of 
violence in the Quran.


 
 View on www.thereligionofpeace.com 
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

 

 The reasons are obvious and begin with the Quran. Few verses of Islam's most 
sacred text can be construed to fit the contemporary virtues of religious 
tolerance and universal brotherhood. Those that do are earlier "Meccan" verses 
which are obviously abrogated by later ones. The example of Muhammad is that 
Islam is a religion of peace when Muslims do not have the power and numbers on 
their side. Once they do, things change.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hawking on Trump

2016-06-02 Thread feste37

Not according to the Washington Post today:

"Katrina Pierson, a spokeswoman for Trump, has expanded on the accusations of
bias, wrongly suggesting Curiel is part of a group organizing protests at Trump
rallies around California. Curiel is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers
Association, a professional group that she appeared to confuse with the
National Council of La Raza, an advocacy group."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2016/06/01/437ccae6-280b-11e6-a3c4-0724e8e24f3f_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpjudges-905pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

BTW Feste, Gonzalo Curiel is a supporter of, and worked with, La
Raza(transaltion: The Race), a racist, anti white, Hispanic hate organization,
hell bent on reuniting the American southwest with Mexico. He also supports
scholarships and I believe, federal funding for illegal alien tuition. I think
their might be just a tad bit of *conflict of interest* or political motivation
on his part. Don't care for the reference of him being a *Mexican*, even though
he takes every opportunity to identify with Mexican causes. Can't blame Trump's
objection to his hearing his case at all.

From: Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@...>
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hawking on Trump

LOL Geeez, you sound hysterical. His substance are things like, building a
wall to stop or at least minimize the flow of *illegal* immigration and
illegal drugs, negotiating better trade deals, stopping the flow of American
manufacturing overseas, if American military might is going to be called on,
then those receiving the benefits need to step up and pay their fair share of
the expense, more equitable sharing of NATO expenses,temporarily stopping the
flow of Muslims into the country etc. etc. I could care less about his attack
on the judge. We use the principle of Voir Dire in the selection of jurors all
the time. He's extending that principal to a judge he thinks may be politically
motivated in his rulings. Doesn't bother me the slightest. Many judges are
politically motivated. Have you ever heard the term *Borked*? People were
afraid of Reagan having the nuclear codes.

From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hawking on Trump

LOL! There is no substance. He's just making stuff up as he goes along. He
is a proven liar and a con man. How do you like his attack on the federal judge
overseeing the Trump University case? You think President Trump will respect
the independence of the judicial branch? Of course he won't. He does not
understand the concept. He is an ignoramus. He is reacting like an immature,
emotional child when an adult reproaches him. With Trump, everything is
personal. He is a very weak, fragile man, in my opinion. Can you imagine him
conducting delicate international diplomacy? You want this man to control the
nuclear codes? God help us all if this should come to pass.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

I can be a very *forgiving* person.I find his substance is more important than
his style.

From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hawking on Trump

Fan or not, you're making excuses for the inexcusable.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Judy, I'm no *fan* of Trump but I understand how he connects with those that
are. Just sayin'...

From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hawking on Trump

Mike, your posts aren't doing Trump any good, and they're trashing your own
credibility.

Just saying...

--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

As Maharishi used to say, "even a sick doctor can heal others". If Trump can
identify problems in policy and have a reasonable remedy, he may be able to
have a positive effect, as full of shit as he may be, personally. One of the
reasons Trump has struck a note with the populace is that he calls a *spade* a
*spade*. He identifies the problem and doesn't let political correctness
prevent him from calling it out.He speaks what has always been deemed
*unspeakable* and it is a breath of fresh air to many when he does it. Just
yesterday, he went on a tirade against the media and how dishonest and
politically bias they are, something many people have recognized for decades,
yet gave l

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hawking on Trump

2016-06-02 Thread feste37

LOL! There is no substance. He's just making stuff up as he goes along. He is a 
proven liar and a con man. How do you like his attack on the federal judge 
overseeing the Trump University case? You think President Trump will respect 
the independence of the judicial branch? Of course he won't. He does not 
understand the concept. He is an ignoramus. He is reacting like an immature, 
emotional child when an adult reproaches him. With Trump, everything is 
personal. He is a very weak, fragile man, in my opinion. Can  you imagine him 
conducting delicate international diplomacy? You want this man to control the 
nuclear codes? God help us all if this should come to pass. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I can be a very *forgiving* person.I find his substance is more important than 
his style.

 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 11:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hawking on Trump
 
 
   Fan or not, you're making excuses for the inexcusable.
 

 

 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Judy, I'm no *fan* of Trump but I understand how he connects with those that 
are.  Just sayin'...
 
 


 From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hawking on Trump

 
   Mike, your posts aren't doing Trump any good, and they're trashing your own 
credibility.
 

 Just saying...
 

 

 

 --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 As Maharishi used to say, "even a sick doctor can heal others". If Trump can 
identify problems in policy and have a reasonable remedy, he may be able to 
have a positive effect, as full of shit as he may be, personally. One of the 
reasons Trump has struck a note with the populace is that he calls a *spade* a 
*spade*. He identifies the problem and doesn't let political correctness 
prevent him from calling it out.He speaks what has always been  deemed 
*unspeakable* and it is a breath of fresh air to many when he does it. Just 
yesterday, he went on a tirade against the media and how dishonest and 
politically bias they are, something many people have recognized for decades, 
yet gave little voice to. He gives voice to what has been mulling around in 
people's minds but were afraid to say. It started with his stand on illegal 
immigration. He was nobody until he brought that up. He said Mexico isn't 
sending their *finest*. "they are sending murderers, rapists, drug dealers etc 
etc. Of course the media and Democrats spun it as *he is calling all Mexicans  
murderers, rapists and drug dealers*. And then you had an illegal alien  
criminal that had been deported 5 times shoot down a young woman in cold blood 
with no motive, while she was walking with her family in a public place and 
then stories like that started popping up all over the country. He identified a 
problem that no one would address.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are You Going to Greet Him or Protest Him?

2016-06-01 Thread feste37

Trump has already done real, tangible harm to this country. As for Coulter, I
disagree with you. She has developed a brand called "Ann Coulter" and that is
what she parades around. She has invested in being obnoxious. Maybe she
believes some of it at some level, but she is basically just selling a product
("Ann Coulter"), from which she profits. I find her utterly loathsome.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Me neither option also.

I'm watching all the Trump stump shenanigans from a safe distance. I find him
quite amusing but then I don't think he actually believes what he spouts. Do
you think people used to say the same thing about Adolph?

Now if Ann Coulter were to become President then I'd be worried. She is
definitely not kidding.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Seraphita and Sal:

Neither. I don't like him so giving him a cheery wave would be hypocritical
but he hasn't actually done anything wrong other than rub a few liberals up the
wrong way so I wouldn't bother protesting.

If he got into power and then started really screwing things up - not just for
the US but everyone else too - and then wanted to come over and be friends then
I might get out of bed for a protest but it's unlikely to be worth the bother.
I think the presidents hands are largely tied and all his hot air will turn out
to be just that. Not that he couldn't drag you under completely but every now
and again a nation elects a leader that destroys them, probably some profound
psycho-social reason for it too but I know not what.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/donald-trump-will-visit-britain-setting-up-a-likely-hostile-reception/2016/06/01/28a13d7b-7d7f-4bc7-adde-f351b0c938e6_story.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry

2016-05-22 Thread feste37

Emily is spot on on everything today. No need to add anything. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Oh no, he's in much worse shape as a human being.  She has convictions, for 
example.  One might not like or agree with them, but she has them.  Look, 
you've picked up using the word "disgusting"!  Way to pay homage, Mike, way to 
pay homage!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I know! He's almost as disgusting a s Hillary!
 
 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 12:50 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry
 
 
   Trump says a lot of things—nothing that he says holds any water because he 
says whatever he thinks will get him the most mileage at any given moment.  He 
has no values or convictions of merit—none—and he has no conscience.  
"Expedient" is all that he is.  He doesn't even take himself seriously (as RWC 
used to say about Barry) and so is able to continually spout nonsense and deny 
he says what he does and lie and lie and feel no reason to take responsibility 
for himself or his words. His supporters just project characteristics and 
positions on him that feed *their* needs and reflect their anger and he feeds 
on it and laughs at them and goads them on. The people that have tried to get 
underneath the facade to the "real" Trump (in order to make for a more 
interesting biography, for example) weren't able to.  There isn't anything to 
get to! His God is money (hence my comment that he has been bought) and he 
idolizes the rich, no matter what he says.  He is aligned with the 
"establishment" in that way and they know it.  He idolizes himself and is 
operating as a mirror for the Party—"they" don't like what "they" see and don't 
realize that in many ways "they" are looking at "themselves," reflected.   
 

 Fascinating how so many that might be considered the Republican 
"establishment" are now jumping on board.  Like Drumpf, the Republican Party 
stands for nothing of merit anymore, either.  Bankrupt in all ways that matter; 
they sold out to the money God and have been drunk on their own illusion of 
Power for years now.  Drumpf is also promising a return to "power" and 
"greatness," and is promoting an illusion backed by not a single statement of 
substance.  He will never deliver; impossible. Corrupt to the core—the 
Republican party has the perfect candidate.  He *is* the Republican 
"establishment" and he knows it and he knows that enough of "them" will whimper 
and whine and then get down on their knees and pay homage.  I'd like to see two 
contested conventions this year—its obviously time for a  review.  If those in 
the Republican Party don't oppose this nomination, the "Party" as it sells 
itself will have effectively self-destructed, and as this article mentions, we 
as a nation will be forced closer still to the dangerous edge of the worst that 
"populism" has to offer.   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Excellent article by Gopnik. The fact is that Trump may well win. If you 
really think about that, it will keep you awake at night. 

I'm still in the Never Trump fold. This is a man who calls for the murder of 
the families of terrorists. That is, Trump wants to murder women and children. 
That's not an exaggeration. He said it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:
 

 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sorry

2016-05-22 Thread feste37

Excellent article by Gopnik. The fact is that Trump may well win. If you really 
think about that, it will keep you awake at night. 

I'm still in the Never Trump fold. This is a man who calls for the murder of 
the families of terrorists. That is, Trump wants to murder women and children. 
That's not an exaggeration. He said it. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I'm sure everyone is sick to death of politics but I came across this:
 

 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump
 
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-dangerous-acceptance-of-donald-trump

[FairfieldLife] best article I have read on Trump

2016-05-19 Thread feste37

Also, watch the video of him reading the poem about the snake. He is a pretty 
good reader, actually, full of passion and power, but it's a scary message 
nonetheless. 

This is how fascism comes to America 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-how-fascism-comes-to-america/2016/05/17/c4e32c58-1c47-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html?tid=pm_pop_b
 
 
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-how-fascism-comes-to-america/2016/05/17/c4e32c58-1c47-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html?tid=pm_pop_b
 
 
 This is how fascism comes to America 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/this-is-how-fascism-comes-to-america/2016/05/17/c4e32c58-1c47-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html?tid=pm_pop_b
 Instead of an expression of liberty, the Trump phenomenon is a threat to it.
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tony Nader's new lot

2016-05-09 Thread feste37

I am probably one of the few people here who would venture to remark that (and 
this is based on my own experience), yagyas work, although the ones done for me 
were not done through the TMO. What intrigues me about Salyavin's tirades is 
his claim that the TMO actually does not even perform the yagyas people pay 
them to do. I have not heard this before and wonder how anyone would know that 
it is true. It is one thing to say the yagyas do not work, but quite another to 
claim that they are never even performed. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 yeah, very strange. These people have become bitterly disappointed at their 
experiences regarding TM, and so, "attempt to spread the truth about TM and the 
org behind it" and "save" others. There is not a nickel's worth of space 
between that expression and the Christian fundamentalists - same psychological 
mistake; transference. They cannot accept that they didn't get it, and so turn 
on those who are experiencing a benefit, blind to the fact that any issue is 
with themselves, and not the TM or TMO, or practitioners of TM.  

 This is in no way a defense of the TM Org, which has a lot of issues. But 
there are ways of tackling a problem productively, and there is empty 
complaining. As you say, we are all adults, and nobody appreciates a bunch of 
blowhards trumpeting the same hollow message, that they know the real truth 
about TM and the TMO and are here to enlighten the rest of us. What rubbish.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Strange, ain't it.  Someone, in this case, Salyavin, feeling they need to save 
someone from themselves.  As if there is not abundant information to peruse 
with regard to the TM movement such that Salyavin feels the impassioned need to 
take on the role. 

 What becomes a little weird is that there is no difference from this attitude 
and the fundamentalist attitude that "they" (the fundamentalist) knows what's 
best for another, and therefore makes it a mission to convert "the other". And 
then, you must ask, where does it end.  
 

 The title of this autobiography is, "How I Became a Tyrant"
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
 
 I figure most of those investing in or tooting the horn for yagya donations 
are grown adults who can decide if they want to spend their money on chanting 
or on a fitbit or the latest VW convertible. 
 

 But can they decide? When you're embroiled in a cult you can really start to 
believe what they tell you as I'm sure you're aware. Obviously it's up to 
people to become scientifically aware and think their way out of the stupidity 
before it bankrupts them or they end up moving to a town where this sort of 
excuse for thinking is taken so much for granted that it becomes a given rather 
than the utterly astonishing load of pseudo-scientific nonsense that it 
actually is.
 

 Grown ups can believe anything they like, but if people you know are 
habitually throwing their money into a hole in the ground - or in this case 
real estate in Florida - when they think they are creating some sort of peace 
creating group of Indian chanters the we owe it to them to darw it to their 
attention or we aren't very good friends.
 

 If you knew someone who was being scammed by a devious pension plan wouldn't 
you tell them if you knew? Yet the TMO gets many millions from selling prayers 
and all the while setting up a pseudo-scientific justification in the shape of 
Marshy's crap lectures about the unified field and continuing with John 
Hagelin's equally crap videos about string theory. It's a deliberate attempt to 
mis-sell something. The funny thing is they claim to be interested in science 
and yet they never put any of the more dubious products on the TM price list 
under any sort of serious scrutiny.
 

 Now, this discussion about Nader and how he could possibly have so much money 
(how much does he have? ) seems like many are jumping to conclusions about his 
guilt with regard to the Movement handing over millions of dollars to him for 
some reason. Why would they do this? Is he worth that much to them? I don't 
know Nader from a hole in the ground other than, I believe, he possesses a gold 
outfit complete with crown in his closet. I suggest people get some hard facts 
before proclaiming his guilt from the rooftops. BTW, where did you get your 
information? Judy seems to think that is important and you didn't answer that 
question in your response here.
 

 Judy has consistently demonstrated that she is an idiot to the extent that I 
never read her posts. She knows as well as I do where all this information 
about King Tony comes from. Is there another explanation for the wealth of

[FairfieldLife] Re: English soccer manager endorses TM

2016-05-06 Thread feste37

By the way, Sam Allardyce, known as Big Sam, is a blunt-spoken, working-class 
northerner, not exactly the sort you would associate with doing TM. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 From the Guardian. Maybe he should get his players to do it as well, looking 
at Sunderland's lowly position in the Premier League. 

Sam Allardyce: meditation helps me cope with relegation battle 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 Sam Allardyce: meditation helps me cope with relegati... 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 Sam Allardyce said that transcendental meditation has become a key weapon in 
his battle to keep Sunderland in the Premier League


 
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[FairfieldLife] English soccer manager endorses TM

2016-05-06 Thread feste37

From the Guardian. Maybe he should get his players to do it as well, looking at 
Sunderland's lowly position in the Premier League. 

Sam Allardyce: meditation helps me cope with relegation battle 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 
 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 
 
 Sam Allardyce: meditation helps me cope with relegati... 
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/06/sam-allardyce-transcendental-meditation-relegation-battle
 Sam Allardyce said that transcendental meditation has become a key weapon in 
his battle to keep Sunderland in the Premier League
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread feste37

You seem determined to miss the point entirely. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 One doesn't need to take two weeks off to travel cross country to learn the 
latest information. If a teacher's knowledge  wasn't sufficient to teach 
anymore, then it never was sufficient to teach in the first place. What kind of 
teachers did Maharishi create? The fact is , it was a money maker for the TMO 
and I'm assuming intended for  signing a new contract, tightening controls on 
the teacher. Not one teacher came out of that program a better teacher but a 
better controlled teachermaybe.

 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 4:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes 
the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness
 
 
   That's a ridiculous comment. I was just making the point that people need to 
keep up with developments in their field, and that is all that recertification 
is. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 One doesn't need a license to teach TM.
 So, you want the *state* to regulate the TM movement on how to operate?

 Bet Maharishi would have taken his knowledge and money and left in a heart 
beat.
Hot under the collar? You can perceive it that way. I just say I washed my 
hands of their foolishness. I know a shake down when I see it. I don't need 
them anymore than they need me.

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes 
the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

 
   Many professions have a continuing ed. requirement which you have to fulfill 
iin order to keep your license to practice. I see nothing wrong at all in 
requiring recertification for teachers, so I'm puzzled about why you are so ho 
under the collar about it.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Doug, the TM movement keeps shooting it's self in the foot with it's policies. 
I guess the straw that broke the Camel's back for me was saying I couldn't 
initiate anyone  again unless I came back to Fairfield at their convenience, 
paid them a couple of thousand dollars and get re certified. I took that as a 
shakedown for money because they were hurting due to their own failed policies. 
Screw them and the horse they road in on. *Chances* are, I probably would never 
have initiated anyone again as it was but who knows. I'll honor their desire 
for me not to teach but If anyone ever asks me about a meditation technique, 
I'll send them to AOL before the TMO.
 
 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:02 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the 
next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

 
   
 How could it have got so bad with the numbers meditating in the Fairfield Dome 
meditations? 
 
 
 That people can't or won't come back to the recall?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 According to published records, by July 1975 in the USA, just itself alone, 
had 5799 TM initiators. Now we can't get much better than a very couple of 
hundred meditating in the men's Dome together. 
  After 1975 some more TM teachers and then TM governors were trained up in 
years following. With 'citizens' added, something like 29000 people learned the 
TM-sidhis in North America.
  
  Now the Dome program gets 200 plus men to the Dome group meditation and some 
smallish number of women are over meditating in their location. 
  People moved here to Fairfield to be a part of something large when the group 
meditation had two thousand or more attending.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 How could it have got to be so bad with the numbers in the Fairfield Dome 
meditations?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 'Collective meditation' was a major major tenet of Maharishi's all along, 
there quite evidently has been a failure of an administration of the 
meditation, a failure that affected people's feelings about coming out for the 
communal collective meditation. This is going to take a change in leadership 
culture to re-group the collapse of the Dome group TM meditation program.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 MMY: "This is what happens in the Golden Domes,
 a wave of infinity spreads from one end of the Dome to the other end. But the 
wave is not constrained by the walls. It permeates the whole collective 
conscious ~the whole field of unmanifest infinity. This is what you are here

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread feste37

That's a ridiculous comment. I was just making the point that people need to 
keep up with developments in their field, and that is all that recertification 
is. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 One doesn't need a license to teach TM.
 So, you want the *state* to regulate the TM movement on how to operate?

 Bet Maharishi would have taken his knowledge and money and left in a heart 
beat.
Hot under the collar? You can perceive it that way. I just say I washed my 
hands of their foolishness. I know a shake down when I see it. I don't need 
them anymore than they need me.

 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 7:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes 
the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness
 
 
   Many professions have a continuing ed. requirement which you have to fulfill 
iin order to keep your license to practice. I see nothing wrong at all in 
requiring recertification for teachers, so I'm puzzled about why you are so ho 
under the collar about it.  

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Doug, the TM movement keeps shooting it's self in the foot with it's policies. 
I guess the straw that broke the Camel's back for me was saying I couldn't 
initiate anyone  again unless I came back to Fairfield at their convenience, 
paid them a couple of thousand dollars and get re certified. I took that as a 
shakedown for money because they were hurting due to their own failed policies. 
Screw them and the horse they road in on. *Chances* are, I probably would never 
have initiated anyone again as it was but who knows. I'll honor their desire 
for me not to teach but If anyone ever asks me about a meditation technique, 
I'll send them to AOL before the TMO.
 
 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:02 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the 
next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

 
   
 How could it have got so bad with the numbers meditating in the Fairfield Dome 
meditations? 
 
 
 That people can't or won't come back to the recall?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 According to published records, by July 1975 in the USA, just itself alone, 
had 5799 TM initiators. Now we can't get much better than a very couple of 
hundred meditating in the men's Dome together. 
  After 1975 some more TM teachers and then TM governors were trained up in 
years following. With 'citizens' added, something like 29000 people learned the 
TM-sidhis in North America.
  
  Now the Dome program gets 200 plus men to the Dome group meditation and some 
smallish number of women are over meditating in their location. 
  People moved here to Fairfield to be a part of something large when the group 
meditation had two thousand or more attending.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 How could it have got to be so bad with the numbers in the Fairfield Dome 
meditations?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 'Collective meditation' was a major major tenet of Maharishi's all along, 
there quite evidently has been a failure of an administration of the 
meditation, a failure that affected people's feelings about coming out for the 
communal collective meditation. This is going to take a change in leadership 
culture to re-group the collapse of the Dome group TM meditation program.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 MMY: "This is what happens in the Golden Domes,
 a wave of infinity spreads from one end of the Dome to the other end. But the 
wave is not constrained by the walls. It permeates the whole collective 
conscious ~the whole field of unmanifest infinity. This is what you are here 
for. And as the group gets larger and larger, your experience will become more 
profound." -July 2006, MMY inaugurating the Invincible America Assembly
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 The movement’s administrative guidelines for the group meditation should be 
such that all of the guidelines can be put on to a web page, publicly for 
anyone to read.  If that can’t be done then there is something wrong with the 
guidelines or the persons holding them.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote :

 The guidelines for the Dome meditation could be much streamlined down to what 
it essentially takes to administrate a course.  It is fair that there be 
guidelines for the running of any organization, meeting or course.  But these 
go beyond practicality. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <dhamiltony2k5@...>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-06 Thread feste37

Many professions have a continuing ed. requirement which you have to fulfill 
iin order to keep your license to practice. I see nothing wrong at all in 
requiring recertification for teachers, so I'm puzzled about why you are so ho 
under the collar about it.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Doug, the TM movement keeps shooting it's self in the foot with it's policies. 
I guess the straw that broke the Camel's back for me was saying I couldn't 
initiate anyone  again unless I came back to Fairfield at their convenience, 
paid them a couple of thousand dollars and get re certified. I took that as a 
shakedown for money because they were hurting due to their own failed policies. 
Screw them and the horse they road in on. *Chances* are, I probably would never 
have initiated anyone again as it was but who knows. I'll honor their desire 
for me not to teach but If anyone ever asks me about a meditation technique, 
I'll send them to AOL before the TMO.
 
 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:02 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the 
next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness
 
 
   
 How could it have got so bad with the numbers meditating in the Fairfield Dome 
meditations? 
 
 
 That people can't or won't come back to the recall?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 According to published records, by July 1975 in the USA, just itself alone, 
had 5799 TM initiators. Now we can't get much better than a very couple of 
hundred meditating in the men's Dome together. 
  After 1975 some more TM teachers and then TM governors were trained up in 
years following. With 'citizens' added, something like 29000 people learned the 
TM-sidhis in North America.
  
  Now the Dome program gets 200 plus men to the Dome group meditation and some 
smallish number of women are over meditating in their location. 
  People moved here to Fairfield to be a part of something large when the group 
meditation had two thousand or more attending.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How could it have got to be so bad with the numbers in the Fairfield Dome 
meditations?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 'Collective meditation' was a major major tenet of Maharishi's all along, 
there quite evidently has been a failure of an administration of the 
meditation, a failure that affected people's feelings about coming out for the 
communal collective meditation. This is going to take a change in leadership 
culture to re-group the collapse of the Dome group TM meditation program.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 MMY: "This is what happens in the Golden Domes,
 a wave of infinity spreads from one end of the Dome to the other end. But the 
wave is not constrained by the walls. It permeates the whole collective 
conscious ~the whole field of unmanifest infinity. This is what you are here 
for. And as the group gets larger and larger, your experience will become more 
profound." -July 2006, MMY inaugurating the Invincible America Assembly
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The movement’s administrative guidelines for the group meditation should be 
such that all of the guidelines can be put on to a web page, publicly for 
anyone to read.  If that can’t be done then there is something wrong with the 
guidelines or the persons holding them.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The guidelines for the Dome meditation could be much streamlined down to what 
it essentially takes to administrate a course.  It is fair that there be 
guidelines for the running of any organization, meeting or course.  But these 
go beyond practicality. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The movement’s guidelines as they exist essentially are tools of retribution 
that for decades have driven a whole movement of meditators away.  
 

 It will take some large leadership to change that.  Their problem now is that 
this has gone on so long and the hurt enough that people have gone on, don’t 
care, and will not come back. It would take a large mediation to turn this 
around and have meditators come back to the Domes.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A large barrier to world peace here is the administrative guidelines 
themselves that are employed to interrogate and discipline old TM teachers as a 
gatekeeping to the group meditation. There is a judgement and retributive edge 
in there, a vindictiveness held in the guidelines that is of a stiffness in the 
business of the minds of some people in charge of the movement that has long 
thwarted the group meditation.  It is a cultural problem deep

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Donald's message is here to stay, even if he is not

2016-02-24 Thread feste37

You fought our kind in the streets throughout Germany in the Hitler era. 
Really? You did? How old are you? If you were fighting socialists in the 
streets in Germany in the 1930s or even earlier my guess is that you must be 
about 100-110 years old. You must also have been a Nazi. Say it ain't so, 
Empty. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You are idiots but hilarious! 
Donald is the new Hitler?
I lived through that era - fools!
I fought your kind in the streets throughout Germany.
Maybe we'll have to do it again here in the good ol' USA.

Once betrayed always betrayed.
All you self-branding "socialists" are just secret commies.
Dishonest to the core.

[FairfieldLife] very compelling article

2016-02-24 Thread feste37

This is a very well argued article saying that Clinton cannot beat Trump but 
Sanders can. 

Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nomination Means a Trump Presidency | 
Current Affairs 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 
 
 
http://static.currentaffairs.org/2016/02/unless-the-democrats-nominate-sanders-a-trump-nomination-means-a-trump-presidency
 
 
 Unless the Democrats Run Sanders, A Trump Nominati... 
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 With Donald Trump lookingincreasinglylikely to actually be the Republican 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Donald's message is here to stay, even if he is not

2016-02-24 Thread feste37

I agree with all these recent posts about Trump. He is dangerous because of 
what he has unleashed. It is like watching a movie about how fascism took root 
in America, and yet it's not a movie, it's actually happening. Trump appeals to 
the same emotions and instincts that Hitler appealed to -- I agree with Emily 
on that, although usually I don't like such comparisons. Trump validates 
people's worst instincts and fears and once those are unleashed, there is no 
telling where it will all end. I earnestly hope that Hillary stays cool and 
counters Trump with well-reasoned arguments. If so, she will surely win, but 
the ugliness of what Trump has aroused will likely remain. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 God, I hope you are right.  I find what is going on within the collective 
conscience of so many buying into the megalomaniacal energy  completely 
horrifying and downright terrifying.  For the first time, I have a real sense 
of what Hitler was able to achieve in the populace...human beings are dangerous 
animals when they live out of primal fear, out of touch with themselves as 
spiritual beings.  Everyone must vote; there can be no apathy.  We must stand 
against him.  I may join the Democratic campaign.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 One thing to keep in mind is not mistaking his noise for sustained popularity, 
enough to clinch the White House. On the other hand, he has been created, in a 
cheap and ugly way, out of a legitimate frustration at having trusted an 
establishment that has consistently widened the gulf between the haves and 
have-nots, while the middle class funds it all. I trust when the dust settles 
that people will vote for well thought out ideas and experience, that address 
their concerns, vs. electing this guy.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yep, the guy crossed a line with that little vignette - I can't recall in my 
lifetime when the presumptive nominee for either major party said he'd like to 
punch someone in the face. Beyond disgusting - He is done. I agree it shows his 
absolute shallowness, and pandering to our basest emotions.
 

 I heard him say after his win in Nevada that it proves he can do anything he 
wants, say anything he wants (including kill someone - he actually included 
this) and people still love him. He was serious.
 

 When I awoke to my alarm clock with the news as my wake up call it was 
chilling (and alarming).  There was the Trump crowd shouting in what could only 
described as the equivalent of a stadium full of people bellowing, "Heil 
Hitler'. Many in America have gone mad. It is not Trump that is the problem - 
it is what he has awakened and validated in these people. He had given license 
to an ugliness and brutality in others that is growing into a crescendo of 
demented voices echoing throughout America. Luckily, there seems to be an 
opposite and equally loud outcry and recognition of this monstrous movement 
from those who see what is happening. How to stop it? I'm not sure.
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's a sad day when a thug like Trump can take over one of America's great 
political parties. I see that yesterday he was saying, about a protester at a 
rally, that in the old days they would carry such people out on a stretcher 
(cheers), and he clearly relished those old days and chafed at the restrictions 
that now apply. He also said that he would like to punch the protester in the 
face (more cheers). Has it really come to this? Will America vote for a 
narcissistic fascist? Hillary will shred this guy in the debates because he is 
an ignoramus who has not thought through a single one of his so-called policy 
proposals. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Nationalism and populism propel Trump
 

 As the returns came in from South Carolina Saturday night, showing Donald 
Trump winning a decisive victory, a note of nervous desperation crept into the 
commentary.
 

 Political analysts pointed out repeatedly that if all of the votes for Marco 
Rubio, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Jeb Bush and Ben Carson were added up, they far 
exceeded the Trump vote.
 

 Why this sudden interest in arithmetic? 

 

 If the field can be winnowed, we were told, if Carson and Kasich can be 
persuaded to follow Bush and get out, if Cruz can be sidelined, if we can get a 
one-on-one Rubio-Trump race, Trump can be stopped.
 

 Behind the thought is the wish. Behind the wish is the hope, the prayer that 
all the non-Trump voters are anti-Trump voters. 

 

 But is this true? Or are the media deluding themselves? 

 

 Watching these anchors, commentators, consultants and pundits called to mind 
the Cleveland Governors Conference of 1964.
 

 Sen. Goldwater had just won the winner-take-all California primary,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Donald's message is here to stay, even if he is not

2016-02-23 Thread feste37

It's a sad day when a thug like Trump can take over one of America's great 
political parties. I see that yesterday he was saying, about a protester at a 
rally, that in the old days they would carry such people out on a stretcher 
(cheers), and he clearly relished those old days and chafed at the restrictions 
that now apply. He also said that he would like to punch the protester in the 
face (more cheers). Has it really come to this? Will America vote for a 
narcissistic fascist? Hillary will shred this guy in the debates because he is 
an ignoramus who has not thought through a single one of his so-called policy 
proposals. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Nationalism and populism propel Trump
 

 As the returns came in from South Carolina Saturday night, showing Donald 
Trump winning a decisive victory, a note of nervous desperation crept into the 
commentary.
 

 Political analysts pointed out repeatedly that if all of the votes for Marco 
Rubio, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Jeb Bush and Ben Carson were added up, they far 
exceeded the Trump vote.
 

 Why this sudden interest in arithmetic? 

 

 If the field can be winnowed, we were told, if Carson and Kasich can be 
persuaded to follow Bush and get out, if Cruz can be sidelined, if we can get a 
one-on-one Rubio-Trump race, Trump can be stopped.
 

 Behind the thought is the wish. Behind the wish is the hope, the prayer that 
all the non-Trump voters are anti-Trump voters. 

 

 But is this true? Or are the media deluding themselves? 

 

 Watching these anchors, commentators, consultants and pundits called to mind 
the Cleveland Governors Conference of 1964.
 

 Sen. Goldwater had just won the winner-take-all California primary, defeating 
Gov. Nelson Rockefeller, assuring himself of enough delegates to go over the 
top on the first ballot at the Cow Palace in San Francisco.
 

 But with polls showing Barry losing massively to LBJ, the panicked governors 
at Cleveland conspired to block his nomination.
 

 Michigan Gov. George Romney and Pennsylvania Gov. Bill Scranton were prodded 
to enter the race. Scranton would declare his availability in San Francisco 
with a letter accusing Goldwater of hostility toward civil rights – Barry had 
voted against the 1964 bill – and of excessive tolerance toward right-wing 
extremists such as the John Birch Society.
 

 And what became of them all?
 

 Goldwater won his nomination and went down in a historic defeat, but became a 
beloved figure and the father of modern conservatism.
 

 Of those who turned their backs on Goldwater that fall, none ever won a 
presidential nomination. Of those who stood by Barry that fall, Richard Nixon 
and Ronald Reagan, both would win the GOP nomination twice, and the presidency 
twice.
 

 And the conservative movement would hold veto power over party nominees and 
become the dominant philosophy of the GOP.
 

 Folks forget. Not only were there “liberal Republicans” and “moderate 
Republicans” back then, they dominated the landscape. Yet rare is the 
Republican today who would describe himself in such terms. 
 Which brings us back to the anti-Trump cabal.
 

 While their immediate goal is to deny him the nomination, do they really think 
that if the party nominates Rubio, things can be again as they were before 
Trump? Do they not see that America and the West are undergoing a series of 
crises that will change our world forever?
 

 Bernie Sanders is not all wrong. There is a revolution going on.
 Late in the last century, when Robert Bartley was editorial editor, the Wall 
Street Journal championed a constitutional amendment of five words – “There 
shall be open borders.”
 

 Bartley, who told colleague Peter Brimelow, “I think the nation-state is 
finished,” wanted U.S. borders thrown open to people and goods from all over 
the world. To Bartley and his acolytes, what made America one nation and one 
people was simply an ideology.
 

 But what was silly then is suicidal today.
 

 Whatever one may think of Trump’s talk of building a wall, does anyone think 
the United States is not going to have to build a security fence to defend our 
bleeding 2,000-mile border?
 

 Given the huge trade deficits with China, Japan, Mexico and the EU, the 
hemorrhaging of manufacturing, the stagnation of wages and the decline of the 
middle class, does anyone think that if Trump is turned back, the GOP can 
continue on being a free-trade party financed by the Beltway agents of 
transnational corporations?
 

 Absent some major attack on the homeland, do our foreign-policy elites believe 
the American people would support new U.S. interventions to defeat, occupy and 
tutor Third World nations in liberal democracy?
 

 Trump is winning because on immigration, amnesty, securing our border and 
staying out of any new crusades for democracy, he has tapped into the most 
powerful currents in politics: economic populism and “America First” 
nationalism.
 

 Look at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, Iowa the Hub of the TM Movement..

2016-02-15 Thread feste37

Interesting. Hagelin's numbers are iffy at best. Not sure Iowa as a whole is 
any more enlightened than surrounding states. Not sure either what the 
supervisor meant when he said that someone learned TM and the TM people didn't 
want him to go back to his family. Never heard that before. As for the fellow 
who thought he was being brainwashed: in fact, he was being presented with a 
certain view of life that he was free to accept or reject. Malloy is right that 
it's a great place to live, but there is also a housing shortage that make it 
harder for firms to attract employees, and also the population is on the old 
side, even for Iowa.  
 

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 We Travel to the Center of the Transcendental Meditation Movement on Today's 
'Daily VICE' | VICE | United States 
http://www.vice.com/video/we-travel-to-the-unlikely-hub-of-transcendental-mediation-movement

 
 
 
http://www.vice.com/video/we-travel-to-the-unlikely-hub-of-transcendental-mediation-movement
 
 We Travel to the Center of the Transcendental Meditation... 
http://www.vice.com/video/we-travel-to-the-unlikely-hub-of-transcendental-mediation-movement
 Then we hear about the cross-cultural street art festival POW! WOW! and the 
journey Malta's tallest man took to the NBA.


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Realistic or Not....

2016-02-14 Thread feste37

So near, yet so far . . .

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

BTW, Cruz is looking the best so far in the debate. Scalia was almost in
Heaven when he died, just outside the Pearly Gates in Big Bend Texas.

From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Realistic or Not

I'm having fun watching the mud wraslin' on the GOP debate tonight. Trump is
calling out Jeb and his crime family. I tuned in to see how they were reacting
to the Scalia's extended visit to hell. ;-)

On 02/13/2016 07:01 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@...
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

So says a left wing- nut source. Doesn't matter if the mishandling was
intentional or not.So says the law.

From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:emily.mae50@...[FairfieldLife]
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Realistic or Not

Mike, only on the wing nut pages, which all jump on board and use the same
word (in this case "indict") or phrase and then all write the same story and
are first in line when one searches! Here's the reality

Right-wing media have consistently pushed the dubious claim that Democratic
presidential candidate Hillary Clinton will be indicted for using a private
email server during her time as secretary of state. However, legal and
intelligence experts continue to point out that such claims baselessly
speculate that the former secretary intentionally mishandled classified
material, a crucial component of criminal charges.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/02/01/experts-push-back-against-right-wing-media-clai/208297http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/02/01/experts-push-back-against-right-wing-media-clai/208297

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/02/01/experts-push-back-against-right-wing-media-clai/208297.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :

I doubt the confirmation of a new justice as well. Republicans will save that
for the next president, hopefully one of their own and it will be a campaign
issue.

If I were a Democrat, I wouldn't be getting my hopes up about Hillary right
now. There is serious talk that she is going to be indicted, at least on the
private server issue and the FBI is currently focusing on State Department
E-mails ending up in the Clinton Foundation and how they connect with Clinton
Foundation donations from foreigners. The FBI could be asking for an indictment
or indictments within the next few weeks.

LOL, I'm curious as to who recognized the porn star as a *porn star*.
"Geee... I've seen that face somewhere."

From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]"
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Realistic or Not

Well, certainly that will occupy a good bit of the debate. The question
will be if a nominee can be confirmed be for the elections. I am guessing that
won't be the case.

What bugs me about Rubio is his line,which he (at least up till now), repeats
ad nauseam, "HILLARY CLINTON IS NOT QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT". I recognize it
is just rhetoric, but it's not his choice. It's the choice of the American
people.

Just sort of bugs me for some reason.

But, I really enjoyed the Cruz ad, with the soft porn actress. Really funny.

Ted Cruz Pulls Ad That Featured Softcore Porn Actress

Ted Cruz Pulls Ad That Featured Softcore Porn Act... The Ted Cruz campaign
pulled an ad attacking Marco Rubio on Thursday, February 11, after it emerged
one of the actresses in the spot was a softcore po...

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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:mdixon.6569@... wrote :

He would be crazy *not* to take advantage of that story. It's all over the
internet.
"Never waste a crisis"

R. Emanuel

From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]"
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Realistic or Not

Okay, that may the second thing out his mouth. The first thing may be some
acknowledgement of Scalia.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:mdixon.6569@...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Predictions by Baba Vanga for 2016 and Beyond

2016-02-10 Thread feste37

LOL!! She lived in the 20th century and referred to airplanes as "steel birds"? 
She didn't know about airplanes? What a con. 

According to Wiki, she predicted that WWIII would start in 2010 and end in 
2014. Did I miss it?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 She said Obama will be the last US president.  So, what's going to happen to 
the winner of this year's  election?
 

 Here are 13 predictions that Baba Vanga made for 2016 and the future 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/heres-what-baba-vanga-predicted-for-2016-and-the-192833607.html

 
 
 
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believed to have predicted the rise of the ISIS, the fall of the twin towers, 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Outstanding!

2016-02-08 Thread feste37

You are wrong about this. I get up from the couch not only to retrieve the 
remote but also to go to the refrigerator, which is in another room and 
therefore counts as serious exercise. 

Injuries in football may well be underestimated because players are encouraged 
to keep on playing, even after sustaining concussions (although there has been 
some improvement over the last few years in how these injuries are treated, 
according to what I read). Football is more injurious to the body than in your 
example, of bad backs and elbows among golfers. As far as boxing is concerned, 
the risk of head injury is obvious, but I think the NFL has a bad record in 
failing to acknowledge the high incidence of brain damage in both current and 
former football players. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I agree with Doug on this. Football gives you brain damage. What a horrible 
thing to inflict on these young men just to entertain the populace and allow 
some people to make lots of money. 
 

 Ice hockey is also infamous for this. How about the repetitive injuries that 
go along with just about any other professionally-played sport? Let's face it, 
when you undertake any activity to the level at which professional athletes do, 
you are wrecking your body - be it gymnasts or tennis players. Even golfers 
(which I don't consider a sport) have bad backs and elbows. Football is no more 
or less injurious to the body. Try boxing if you think football is bad for head 
injury. But I do believe equestrian sports are some of the most dangerous and 
concussions are rampant in that sport as well. Luckily, most here haven't left 
their couches, or if so, than only to retrieve the remote or their copy of The 
Gita.
 
Here's a list that has some surprises on it! How do you get a concussion in 
golf? I guess when your partner forgets to yell, "Fore".
 
The following 20 sports/recreational activities represent the categories 
contributing to the highest number of estimated head injuries treated in U.S. 
hospital emergency rooms in 2009.
 Cycling: 85,389
Football: 46,948
Baseball and Softball: 38,394
Basketball: 34,692
Water Sports (Diving, Scuba Diving, Surfing, Swimming, Water Polo, Water 
Skiing, Water Tubing): 28,716
Powered Recreational Vehicles (ATVs, Dune Buggies, Go-Carts, Mini bikes, 
Off-road): 26,606
Soccer: 24,184
Skateboards/Scooters: 23,114
Fitness/Exercise/Health Club: 18,012
Winter Sports (Skiing, Sledding, Snowboarding, Snowmobiling): 16,948
Horseback Riding: 14,466
Gymnastics/Dance/Cheerleading: 10,223
Golf: 10,035
Hockey: 8,145
Other Ball Sports and Balls, Unspecified: 6,883
Trampolines: 5,919
Rugby/Lacrosse: 5,794
Roller and Inline Skating: 3,320
Ice Skating: 4,608
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It was the 50th professional football stupid bowl, will it last another decade 
in its present form? Apparently enrollment in junior and high school football 
programs is way off. Will it have sufficient recruits to draft out of college 
programs in four years? 
  Football asks way more from the human body than it can give. It becomes 
simply immoral to support it any longer given what we know about its injuries. 
How many more hits can they sustain before they simply must change to become 
the Professional League of Touch Football? ! ..The Super Bowl of Touch 
Football.. !  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, the meditating Fairfield folkart community gathered enjoying its annual 
marathon viewing of the Arts 1995 Pride and Prejudice as contrast to the 
professional football stupid bowl of damaged brains. 

 Pride and Prejudice (1995) Trailer (1080p) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MmcT_vcBU 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MmcT_vcBU
 
 Pride and Prejudice (1995) Trailer (1080p) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MmcT_vcBU Description


 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Good game?  Good commercials?  I'm with you on Lady Gaga, though.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Lady Gagag knocked the ball out of the park with her Star Spangled Banner

 

 Good game so far.
 Even better commercials.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Outstanding!

2016-02-08 Thread feste37

She did a good job. I have never seen her before, although I have heard the 
name. Why does she call herself Lady Gaga? I always thought that if you went 
gaga, it meant that you were senile, you had lost your marbles. But this 
attractive young blonde lady seems in full possession of hers.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 For those of you who missed it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyqkN3zezso 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyqkN3zezso  
  
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyqkN3zezso
  
  
  
  
  
 Lady Gaga - National Anthem - Super Bowl 2016 (HD 10... 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyqkN3zezso

 
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 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 7:38 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Outstanding!
 
 
   
 Lady Gagag knocked the ball out of the park with her Star Spangled Banner

 

 Good game so far.
 Even better commercials.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Outstanding!

2016-02-08 Thread feste37

I agree with Doug on this. Football gives you brain damage. What a horrible 
thing to inflict on these young men just to entertain the populace and allow 
some people to make lots of money. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It was the 50th professional football stupid bowl, will it last another decade 
in its present form? Apparently enrollment in junior and high school football 
programs is way off. Will it have sufficient recruits to draft out of college 
programs in four years? 
  Football asks way more from the human body than it can give. It becomes 
simply immoral to support it any longer given what we know about its injuries. 
How many more hits can they sustain before they simply must change to become 
the Professional League of Touch Football? ! ..The Super Bowl of Touch 
Football.. !  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, the meditating Fairfield folkart community gathered enjoying its annual 
marathon viewing of the Arts 1995 Pride and Prejudice as contrast to the 
professional football stupid bowl of damaged brains. 

 Pride and Prejudice (1995) Trailer (1080p) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MmcT_vcBU 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MmcT_vcBU
 
 Pride and Prejudice (1995) Trailer (1080p) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MmcT_vcBU Description


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5MmcT_vcBU 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Good game?  Good commercials?  I'm with you on Lady Gaga, though.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Lady Gagag knocked the ball out of the park with her Star Spangled Banner

 

 Good game so far.
 Even better commercials.

[FairfieldLife] Re: I Can Hear Them Now

2016-02-05 Thread feste37

No, the F word emphasizes nothing. The statement speaks for itself without the 
interjected obscenity. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And the point of the F- word here is . . . ?
 

 It's obvious- to emphasize how wrong humans have gotten their message.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: I Can Hear Them Now

2016-02-05 Thread feste37

And the point of the F- word here is . . . ?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Re: I Can Hear Them Now

2016-02-05 Thread feste37

I disagree. It adds nothing to the meaning, but it does say something about the 
speaker or writer. It's how uneducated, vulgar people speak, as if using the F 
word somehow adds to their point. But all it does is show how inarticulate they 
are. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Actually, I disagree.  The purpose of the F word in this instance is to up the 
intensity, get you to "Pay Attention!" Love it.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 No, the F word emphasizes nothing. The statement speaks for itself without the 
interjected obscenity. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And the point of the F- word here is . . . ?
 

 It's obvious- to emphasize how wrong humans have gotten their message.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Women Should be Drafted into the Military

2016-02-04 Thread feste37

Any society that sends its women off to war has got its values all wrong. What 
sort of man sends his woman to fight his battles for him? Feminism may have 
achieved many good things, but the notion that women should be allowed in 
combat is not one of them. And what sort of woman wants to go into combat? 
Where did she get that idea from? 

Think about this, ladies: you are in a movie theater with your 
husband/boyfriend. A crazy guy comes in and starts shooting. What does your man 
do? He throws himself on top of you or in some other way puts his own body 
between you and the shooter, that's what he does. It is instinct. All normal 
men would do this in an instant, without a thought. Men are hard-wired to 
protect women, not to send them out to the front lines to come home with limbs 
missing and brains damaged. Women in combat is a terrible idea and should never 
be allowed to happen. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Several women... over thousands of years! Wow! Yes, women did follow the 
armies, as late as the American civil war but you might check out  what their 
purpose was. It wasn't just as nurses. It was more of an *economic* benefit.

 Women have never served in a combat role in any wars that I'm aware of. Were 
there exceptions to the rules? Of course, there is always a Joan of Arc type 
story. There were stories of women joining the Union army but these were 
anomalies. So we can't really measure the effects of combat stress on them or 
their motherhood. Should we experiment with that? For people that claim to be 
pacifists to demand that women be represented in combat makes my head spin! 
WTF? That isn't being constructive, it's trying to turn the cart upside down.

 
 *Old school*? Yeah, maybe we need a little more *old school*. It seems the 
*new school* isn't having that much success. With the rise of single parent 
households, we're seeing more dysfunctional families, more violent crime among 
juveniles , higher incarceration rates for young people, but we're getting into 
another topic.

 BTW, Elephants grow up in a matriarchal society. The young bull elephants 
usually become uncontrollable as they reach puberty. Their mothers have no 
control over them. Recently, park rangers have taken some of the more 
disruptive young bulls away and placed them with more mature Bull elephants out 
of the herd. The older bulls read the younger ones the riot act and instill 
discipline. The younger ones learn their manors and settle down quickly, 
Father/son relationship. Mother/son doesn't seem to cut it.

  As for subjecting women to the trauma of war and it's effects so they can be 
more compassionate? Really? PTSD isn't something you turn on and off. It 
affects the whole person and not in a beneficial way.

 


 From: "emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 11:05 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Women Should be Drafted into the Military
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You think *possibly* quite a few women fought Alexander's armies? Really? 
Maybe they fought off rapists but I seriously doubt they fought as soldiers, 
but then maybe you could enlighten us with some archeologically/anthropological 
 facts.Warriors, particularly Kshatriya were *protectors* of women, children 
the elderly and society in general. Stories of Amazons were just that, stories 
and legends by the Greeks.
 

 I looked it up and was surprised that there was mention of several women in 
the  history books who had risen up against him. Where goeth one woman goeth an 
army, if only a more strategic, silent army.  We will never know for sure.  
 

 You might listen to a few more Maharishi tapes regarding the human nervous 
system. He frequently spoke about women having a more refined and delicate 
nervous system which allowed them to have even deeper experiences than many 
men. He also spoke about the effects of stress on human evolution.
 

 Smile.  Yes, I might, but that ship has sailed in my life.  I do remember 
reading that women's brains are more interconnected (between "right" and "left" 
sides of the brain).  I am in total agreement that "stress" has a deleterious 
effect over time on one's physical, mental, emotional and spiritual self.  
 

 Maharishi said that a new born's level of consciousness is closest to that of 
the mother. 
 

 Don't disagree with this although I don't have any idea what he meant by 
"level of consciousness."  The baby and mother are intimately connected.  
Children are born with their own, individual  "soul," however, imho.  
 

 What effect would something like PTSD have on a child born to a mother with 
that condition. 
 

 It's a good point; PTSD in either parent puts the stability of the family at 
risk.  A greater level of governmental support to families who make the 
ultimate sacrifice is needed.  We need to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Iowa caucus bulletins

2016-02-02 Thread feste37

Jefferson County, which includes Fairfield, went 73% for Sanders, 27% for 
Clinton -- an amazing result, and easily Bernie's biggest victory margin in 
Iowa. Nothing else came close. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 As of midnight:
 

 AP projects Cruz beats Trump, 27.7% to 24.3%. Rubio is third with 23.1%.
 

 Clinton and Sanders are neck-and-neck, with Clinton very slightly ahead.
 

 O'Malley and Huckabee have suspended their campaigns.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Meditator Bloc Vote?

2016-01-28 Thread feste37

Surprised he bothered. Not too many votes for him here, although I do see some 
Cruz yard signs not far from my house. Now that's something I would never put 
up -- for anyone. Why tell my neighbors my political views? Now I know my near 
neighbors are dangerous extremists!

Apparently Charles Grassley, our oh-so-conservative senator, didn't much care 
to visit Fairfield because of all those liberals we harbor here. 

Bernie Sanders is here today for his coronation.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Cruz sneaked in behind the Cornstalk Curtain?
 

 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 4:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Meditator Bloc Vote?
 
 
   
 Cruz snuck in to town and met with a small select group.  His people commented 
that they felt Fairfield was enemy ground so they just had a small unannounced 
meet.
 

 O'Malley was here on the weekend, front page article about that.
 

 Bernie is coming to the Fairfield Civics Center this week, 
 

 And Former President Bill Clinton comes in after that.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Iowa being Iowa, if one shows up at campaign events then you are likely to get 
to see the person of the next leader of the free world.  It is pretty 
incredible to be able to see how people are and think on their feet with people.
 

 Hillary lights up the room, while the room lights up Bernie. Hillary has quite 
a lot of cultivated shakti that she gives like dharsan. Bernie, he is no dim 
bulb either but quite evidently is conveyed a power activated from 'the 
people'. Martin O'Malley is lit in a way a lot like Hillary. They are good 
people. My bet is that Hillary and Martin have been meditators, spiritually. 
-JaiGuruYou 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I agree with you there, Mike. Best left to individuals. Here in Fairfield, as 
much as I can tell, there is huge enthusiasm among meditators for Bernie 
Sanders, less enthusiasm but some support for Hillary, and about zero support 
for any Republican. I have not encountered a single Trump supporter in the 
meditating community.

See, there are enlightened folks in FF. ;-) TM works!!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When the TMO starts telling people who to vote for, they'll isolate half the 
country, half the people that they seek to initiate and it won't increase 
initiation either. TMO getting involved in politics is a no- win situation.
 

 


 From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:36 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Meditator Bloc Vote?

 
   
 So, how would you feel that meditators should vote in the Iowa presidential 
caucus or the other primaries ? The meditator's candidate? Meditators should 
turn out and favor which party and which candidate?  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 As we all know, anyone who can think can meditate. Is it the place for 
[organizational] TM'ers as representative transcendentalists to tell people 
what to think, or how to vote? Should the TM movement have an administrative 
position on TM teachers and staff who would use the TM-lectern to advocate 
political views? What do you feel about this?   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This brings up an important administrative question, should TM’ers who 
represent the TM movement express political opinion? Publicly?  Does that 
confuse/conflate the TM practice to politics?  
 

 Like, individual meditators may have and may express opinions but what of 
those who represent TM?   How would you administratively handle them if a TM 
teacher became particularly publicly politicized, advocating from the lectern 
that meditators support and vote for a particular mundane political party, or 
cause, or person? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Should TM'ers support the Sverigedemokraterna? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 ...support the (right-wingish) Sverigedemokraterna (Sweden-democrats)?
 

 https://www.facebook.com/Sverigedemokraterna/?fref=ts 
https://www.facebook.com/Sverigedemokraterna/?fref=ts

 

 https://transcendental-meditation.se/ https://transcendental-meditation.se/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is MEDITATION making us ill?

2016-01-26 Thread feste37

I haven't read all of this yet, but from what I have seen this must rank as the
most mature approach the movement has ever had to this issue. Huge progress has
been made, and people have been educated. If this document is any guide, the
movement seems to be moving away from its old dogmatic and robotic attitudes
and facing up to the actual facts of the matter.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

This is the new guideline around mental illness not only for the campus
meditating community in Fairfield, Iowa but the whole of TM now in effect:

http://portals.mum.edu/Customized/uploads/guidelines-for-mental-health.html
http://portals.mum.edu/Customized/uploads/guidelines-for-mental-health.html

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

But, compared to the spiritual awakening and enlightenment that meditation can
bring to a human incarnation, what is this down-side risk (likelihood)
otherwise and how to manage that risk?

Moderation is the golden rule?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

I notice the article says mindfulness 'and other' meditations. The title is
too narrow?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jan/23/is-mindfulness-making-us-ill?utm_source=esp_medium=Email_campaign=GU+Today+USA+-+Version+CB+header_term=152812=1476098=ema_565b

Is mindfulness making us ill?
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It’s the relaxation technique of choice, popular with employers and even the
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Is mindfulness making us ill?

It’s the relaxation technique of choice, popular with employers and even the
NHS. But some have found it can have unexpected effects

Dawn Foster
Saturday 23 January 2016 05.00 EST

I am sitting in a circle in a grey, corporate room with 10 housing association
employees – administrators, security guards, cleaners – eyes darting about
nervously. We are asked to eat a sandwich in silence. To think about every
taste and texture, every chewing motion and bite. Far from being relaxed, I
feel excruciatingly uncomfortable and begin to wonder if my jaw is
malfunctioning. I’m here to write about a new mindfulness initiative, and since
I’ve never to my knowledge had any mental health issues and usually thrive
under stress, I anticipate a straightforward, if awkward, experience.

Then comes the meditation. We’re told to close our eyes and think about our
bodies in relation to the chair, the floor, the room: how each limb touches the
arms, the back, the legs of the seat, while breathing slowly. But there’s one
small catch: I can’t breathe. No matter how fast, slow, deep or shallow my
breaths are, it feels as though my lungs are sealed. My instincts tell me to
run, but I can’t move my arms or legs. I feel a rising panic and worry that I
might pass out, my mind racing. Then we’re told to open our eyes and the
feeling dissipates. I look around. No one else appears to have felt they were
facing imminent death. What just happened?

For days afterwards, I feel on edge. I have a permanent tension headache and I
jump at the slightest unexpected noise. The fact that something seemingly
benign, positive and hugely popular had such a profound effect has taken me by
surprise.

Mindfulness, the practice of sitting still and focusing on your breath and
thoughts, has surged in popularity over the last few years, with a boom in
apps, online courses, books and articles extolling its virtues. It can be done
alone or with a guide (digital or human), and with so much hand-wringing about
our frenetic, time-poor lifestyles and information overload, it seems to offer
a wholesome solution: a quiet port in the storm and an opportunity for
self-examination. The Headspace app, which offers 10-minute guided meditations
on your smartphone, has more than three million users worldwide and is worth
over £25m. Meanwhile, publishers have rushed to put out workbooks and guides to
line the wellness shelves in bookshops.

Large organisations such as Google, Apple, Sony, Ikea, the Department of Health
and Transport for London have adopted mindfulness or meditation as part of
their employee packages, claiming it leads to a happier workforce, increased
productivity and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Possible Disturbance on Super Bowl Sunday

2016-01-25 Thread feste37

Yeah, I hear you. But it's not going to happen -- just one more way in which 
the Obama administration has let us down. Where is the U.S. Department of 
Astrology when you really need it? 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ya hear that Feste?  Only board certified jyotishis, on our watch!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Feste,
 

 Not just any jyotishis, but the one's who are good and with proven track 
record.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yeah, it's just typical of what is wrong with our country today. People not 
acting on tipoffs from astrologers. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 More details? The fact that Rahu and Jupiter are in tight conjunction isn't 
enough info for them? Jeez! What more do they need? Nakshatras or something? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ann,
 

 I tried sending an email to the department last night.  But their website 
stated to refer to the local city police department to report any unusual 
activities.  I might just do that.  But they probably would need more details.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Rahu and Jupiter are still in tight conjunction on February 7, 2016 at the 
cusp of Leo.  Somebody should notify Home Security Department to put on high 
alert for possible violence at the game.

 

 I'm pretty sure they're already on it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Possible Disturbance on Super Bowl Sunday

2016-01-25 Thread feste37

Yeah, it's just typical of what is wrong with our country today. People not 
acting on tipoffs from astrologers. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 More details? The fact that Rahu and Jupiter are in tight conjunction isn't 
enough info for them? Jeez! What more do they need? Nakshatras or something? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ann,
 

 I tried sending an email to the department last night.  But their website 
stated to refer to the local city police department to report any unusual 
activities.  I might just do that.  But they probably would need more details.

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :

 Rahu and Jupiter are still in tight conjunction on February 7, 2016 at the 
cusp of Leo.  Somebody should notify Home Security Department to put on high 
alert for possible violence at the game.

 

 I'm pretty sure they're already on it.

[FairfieldLife] my endorsement for president!

2016-01-24 Thread feste37

I know this is something that you have all been eagerly awaiting, so finally 
here it is. It could be a game-changer, given the extraordinary influence I 
wield in Iowa. 

I endorse Bernie Sanders for President of the United States! 

Truth alone triumphs. 

I am feste37 and I approve this message.

Re: [FairfieldLife] my endorsement for president!

2016-01-24 Thread feste37

LOL! 

But you won't mind my pointing out that there is a world of a difference 
between a communist and a European-style democratic socialist. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2jnX2y30D 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2jnX2y30DE 
 





 


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 9:52 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] my endorsement for president!

 
   I know this is something that you have all been eagerly awaiting, so finally 
here it is. It could be a game-changer, given the extraordinary influence I 
wield in Iowa. 

I endorse Bernie Sanders for President of the United States! 

Truth alone triumphs. 

I am feste37 and I approve this message.

[FairfieldLife] Re: False memory??

2016-01-23 Thread feste37

Yes, that's right. He was in and out of them all the time. They would discuss 
the news of the day together. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 I seem to recall a rumor from years ago, that Maharishi
 was seen to visit an alien spaceship (UFO)??

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conservative Big-Wigs are Clueless

2016-01-23 Thread feste37

Your cunning plan does not pass muster, I'm afraid. Republicans did not assume 
Obama was going to win in 2012. On the contrary, they thought right up to the 
last minute that their candidate Romney would win. They saw Obama as a failed, 
unpopular Jimmy Carter-type one-term president. Boy, did they get that wrong!

Also, Sarah's star had faded long before the 2012 elections. She was not in the 
hunt at all, thank God. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 When Obama ran for his second term it seems to have been taken for granted, 
even by Republicans, that he would win. 

 In that case, thought I at the time, wouldn't it have been a smart move to 
have Sarah Palin as the rival candidate.
 

 Why so?
 

 Well, if the candidate is going to lose regardless you don't want to sacrifice 
a plausible, high-profile contender. Why not throw Palin onto the funeral pyre?
 

 And, by having a woman as their choice, Republicans could claim ever after 
that they were the first party in US history to root for a female President. 
You want progressive politics? Go GOP.
 

 And - just as many voters opted for Obama simply because he was black - Sarah 
Palin would have been a wild card: many might have voted for her simply because 
she was a woman (though fibbing that they had voted for the Democrats).
 

 Apologies for giving you nightmares, but what do you think of my cunning plan?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

2016-01-22 Thread feste37

I disagree with most of what you say. Obama was a US senator and had also 
served six years, I believe, in the Illinois state senate. A thin resume for a 
presidential candidate, perhaps, but at least it was in the profession he 
wanted to step up in. I don't think Trump's knowledge of business is 
necessarily an advantage at all. We are also talking about a man who has said 
he will give Sarah Palin a cabinet position! Sarah is simply not the caliber of 
person required to run a cabinet office. 

I believe Fulbrights are open to Americans. I know two Americans who have 
received them. As for Obama's negotiating skills, I think he wanted to 
negotiate with the Republicans in Congress but they were obstructionist in the 
extreme. I don't think Obama's natural instincts are "my way or the highway" at 
all. Quite the opposite, actually. I think he is a decent man who is prepared 
to work with all sides on an issue, but it is the Republicans who have 
forgotten that politics is the art of the possible -- they think that 
negotiation and compromise is somehow a betrayal. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

 Feste, he's not my ideal candidate either! However, he has just as much 
qualifications as Obama did , if not more. At least Trump has management, 
executive and negotiating skills and built his own multi-billion dollar 
*empire*.
 All Obama ever did was be a *community organizer*, whatever that is. Whatever 
his academic achievements were are perceived as being based on affirmative 
action based. How does an American student get a Fulbright Scholarship? I've 
always heard those are reserved for foreign students.

 Trump's zero political office experience is perceived by many as a plus. A lot 
of people are tired of being promised one thing and then those promises 
abandoned. A lot of people are tired of career politicians.
Yeah, Trump is perceived as a *fighter*. Throw a punch at him and he counters 
ten times harder. Wasn't it Obama that said" if they bring a knife to a fight, 
we bring a gun"?
 However, Trump is a negotiator, I've never known Obama to negotiate anything. 
It's always my way or they high way. 
 If Trump is nominated, I think he's got a pretty good shot.He's attracting a 
coalition that Republicans have dreamed of but rarely get. There are a lot of 
independents that are attracted to him.


 From: feste37 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no 
qualifications to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. 
He is unsuited by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to 
be in that position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being 
elected. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
 

 Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

 





 


 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


Against Trump 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 Against Trump 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservati

Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

2016-01-22 Thread feste37

I still regard the Trump candidacy as an absurdity. Trump has no qualifications 
to be US president. He has zero experience of political office. He is unsuited 
by temperament to the office and would be a dangerous person to be in that 
position of power. I do not believe he has a chance of being elected. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Mike, thanks so much for your insights, very helpful. 

 

 I think the Tea Party totally screwed up the Republican Party and I also think 
Trump, for that situation, is just what the doctor ordered.
 

 Why does the RP hate Cruz? Just because he questions them? Or something more 
specific?

 

 


 From: "Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 8:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump
 
 
   
 It really is a dilemma isn't it. Trump is not a true conservative but a 
populist. Trump is attracting people from all over the place. Many undecideds, 
which is what Republicans have been after for years. Yet, they don't trust the 
guy with his *New York* values which are ultra liberal. He is to the left of 
most establishment Republicans but to the right of any Democrat, which is why I 
think moderate(liberal) Republicans are starting to find him a bit more 
acceptable. Ether him or Cruz, and that blows the mind of establishment 
Republicans. Cruz just won't play ball with his *superiors* and that really 
pisses them off! As long as the race is between the two, the Republican 
establishment will eventually line up behind Trump whether they like him or not 
because they hate Cruz.

 

 





 


 From: "emptybill@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, January 22, 2016 7:57 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Establishment Conservatives Against Trump

 
   Why establishment conservatives are on the rally against Trump.


Against Trump 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 
 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
 
 Against Trump 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430137/donald-trump-conservative-movement-menace
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Deserve Each Other

2016-01-20 Thread feste37

Sarah is a beautiful woman but she should be seen and not heard. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A match made in heaven:
 

 

 
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/palin-endorsement-widens-trumps-lead-among-idiots
 
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/palin-endorsement-widens-trumps-lead-among-idiots

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meanwhile in Sweden...

2016-01-16 Thread feste37

That is seriously insane. What is the matter with Sweden?
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 Sweden: State-funded Muslim "Sniper" Training - The New Observer 
http://newobserveronline.com/sweden-state-funded-muslim-sniper-training/

 
 
 http://newobserveronline.com/sweden-state-funded-muslim-sniper-training/
 
 Sweden: State-funded Muslim "Sniper" Training ... 
http://newobserveronline.com/sweden-state-funded-muslim-sniper-training/ The 
Swedish state is funding a “sniper” training course for recently-arrived Third 
World “refugees” as part of their “integration program”—despite the ever...


 
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 The World in Flames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3e64sosEg

 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3e64sosEg
 
 The World in Flames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3e64sosEg The World in 
Flames (1939 - 45) ..meanwhile in Sweden :D REALLY FUNNY!!


 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Eurabian Death Spiral

2016-01-15 Thread feste37

I didn't feel "disrespected" in the slightest. It's OK to have an argument with 
someone. It doesn't matter. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It was interesting, Ollie to see how fast it back-slid once it got going.   
Became something like a feeding frenzy.  One person, two then three, restraint
 was lost and the community disrespected.
 

   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Agreed. Thanks for raising the awareness about this issue Doug, but now that 
the socially maladjusted members are gone for good from FFL, I side with feste 
that nothing more need be done. The group can self-police itself pretty well at 
this point, though stepping in with a reminder as you did, doesn't hurt. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Posters here should be allowed to have an argument and express themselves 
forcefully, in their own styles. In this case, it's not as if it is a daily 
thing, as with the posters that were kicked out. Our Canadian friend is one of 
our best contributors and should not be threatened with expulsion. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You evidently are strayed off from the wide, straight and narrow ways of civil 
discourse of the yahoo-groups guidelines with this thread. In a display of 
self-moderation could you two take your personal banter off the list, remove 
your last few posts yourself, or I'll be glad to take you both off the list. 
Thanks, in advance.
 

 If you would like to remove the posts, that is your prerogative, Doug. It 
doesn't matter to me one way or the other. emptypants is rude and offensive, at 
the best of times. If he chooses to shout invectives at me in response to what 
I have to say to him that is his business but I won't sit by and let him do so 
without pushback. I have no emotion about empty one way or another. I have 
opinions about him but no particular feeling. He is just a faceless poster on 
the internet. If you felt that our interactions, such as they were, were 
against the Yahoo guidelines than do what you have to do.
 

 Posting and reading here has been mostly fun. It is a chance to write and 
think and play. Playing is mostly what I do. While I am serious on some 
subjects and enjoy the opportunity to state how I feel, especially in the face 
of those who disagree, I have no great need to be here and you can silence me 
if that suits you and comes under the role of your moderator status at FFL. In 
the meantime, I'll carry on.

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