Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Who's who on FFL?

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:57:55 AM, "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
It is way better than just
anonymity, I hacked this guy's yahoo mail account a long long time
ago and use it at my free will. Ha!  The sap, he's never figured it
out.  I bet he'd be really mad at me for using his account for my
purposes if he ever figured it out.  However someone here actually equating his
name with me,  I think the FFL moderator here should ban whoever did
that for violating the FFL guidelines about revealing people's
identities on FFL. Outing people who wish to remain anonymous or
lurk on FFL, that really is foul.
-Buck 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Re Ann's: "What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty 
accurately who I am.":  

And if a prospective employer was prejudiced against your opinions you'd not 
get that longed-for job/pay rise/promotion. You may be financially secure 
enough to not care less but there are a lot of people out there who might be in 
more desperate straits. 


If I was in a "position" to have to care I would not post at all. I 
don't like someone holding me hostage through/by my viewpoints and have a 
really deep seated rebellious streak if I feel I were to be censured for being 
who I am. If someone were to read what I wrote who actually had 
the power to fire or hire me (which seems unlikely) then I would need to be 
conscious of such a possibility and be prepared to live with the 
consequences if it came to that. I acknowledge other people's desire and need 
for anonymity but it just ain't me.


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Re "I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject others to my 
opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than happy to let them 
know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what I have written 
then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need for anonymity 
other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might arise as a 
result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for accountability.":

If I'm understanding you, isn't the problem here that when people post comments 
and opinions using their real, given name it means that when they apply for a 
new job (say) the employer can Google the name and see everything they've said. 
You could learn a lot about someone from chasing up all their opinions - things 
it might be wiser to keep secret. Might it not be a good idea to protect 
yourself with an alias? You're still free to reveal to whoever you choose what 
aliases you've used on-line - but *you* have that choice. By using your real 
name you're giving hostages to fortune. 

All sorts of things can be dredged up but if my would-be employer were to 
choose not to give me a job based on my opinions herein expressed then I don't 
want the job. What I say on this forum is what I believe and it conveys pretty 
accurately who I am. I still say, if you don't want what you represent yourself 
to be on these public places then don't participate and if you do then be brave 
enough to face the consequences. (FFL is the one and only 'forum' I have ever 
engaged with. I have no time or inclination to spend my day roving the ether 
for opportunities to either vent or expose myself in great quantities. Big 
Brother may be watching but if he finds himself interested in me then God help 
us.)


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


To clarify - I don't believe in anonymity. If I choose to post or subject 
others to my opinions and generally interact with them then I am more than 
happy to let them know my name. If I didn't want to associate myself with what 
I have written then I wouldn't write it. I don't totally understand the need 
for anonymity other than to keep oneself "safe" from repercussions that might 
arise as a result of what one might believe in. But then I'm all for 
accountability.


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Can I mention something else that's been bugging me about FFL?


I am Seraphita. That is Seraphita = Seraphita = Seraphita. That's the name I 
selected when registering with FFL. That's the name I always use. Simple OK?

But we know there are a lot of people who have a sign-on name but who are also 
addressed by a familiar name. Correct me if I'm wrong but . . .
"authfriend" = 
"TurquoiseB" =
"Buck" = 


and the Lord knows who "wgm4u" and "awoelflebater" are!


For the sake of new arrivals to FFL and the occasional lurker could some kind 
soul list the different aliases of the posters to this site so that everyone 
knows who is saying what to whom. It would make life so much simpler.

Simple: awoelflebater is Ann

Re: [FairfieldLife] All the ice has melted...is your city still there?

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Are there palm leaves to read in FF? It must be getting warmer there than I 
thought. I wonder how much money one can earn reading palm leaves. Sounds like 
this person would naturally be an expert on the flood plain tendencies of the 
Mississippi if all land ice were to melt. Definitely palm leaf reading and 
flood impact reports go hand in hand. I'll keep a close watch on said palm leaf 
reader, they really seem to have a handle on reality.





On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:39:04 PM, Share Long  
wrote:
 
  
The palm leaf reader who comes to FF twice a year has been known to say, "What 
good is vastu if you're under water." He predicts that the Mississippi will 
flood all the way to FF. He advises one and all to move to a location 2,000 
above sea level or higher.





On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:14 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:
 
  
It must be melting faster because our "sunny California" weather is much colder 
than usual for this time of year.  A friend has a fishing boat and fishes up in 
Alaska and says the ice is really melting away.

On 11/05/2013 12:52 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

  
>Fascinating interactive map from National Geographic. 
>Suffice it to say I wouldn't still be in the Netherlands,
>and a few others here would be in different places, too.
>
>Fairfield would still be as high, dry, and boring as ever.
  :-)
>
>http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2013/09/rising-seas/if-ice-melted-map 
>
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: It's starting already. We gonna line 'em up on the wall!

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

I read alright, I just don't overreact.



On Sunday, November 3, 2013 4:00:18 PM, "emptyb...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
It's actually spelled E.A.R. M.O.N.I.T.O.R.I.N.G.
Don't you read anything about the NSA? 

Oh, I forgot ... you don't read.



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Can you spell F-E-A-R  M-O-N-G-E-R-I-N-G?


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


 





---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


What's the alternative?  Fascism?  We have that now.  You are mistaking 
Obamacare for socialism.  It's fascism.


On 11/03/2013 10:47 AM, emptybill@... wrote:
>>>
  
>Yes.
>
>
>It's called "Peoples Justice".
>
>
>
>
>
>
>---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>
>Yikes, emptybill, who are we lining up against the wall? The docs? The 
>patients? Everybody?
>
>
>
>
>On Sunday, November 3, 2013 11:16 AM, "emptybill@..."  wrote:
> 
>  
>Virginia Democrat Calls For Forcing Doctors To Accept Medicare And Medicaid 
>Patients
>http://masonconservative.typepad.com/the_mason_conservative/2013/11/virginia-democrat-calls-for-forcing-doctors-to-accept-medicare-and-medicaid-patients.html
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: TM in the Tantras

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

As you may have gathered by now I am not big on theoretical spiritual teachings 
nor am I a leaner towards book learning on things spiritual or the following of 
gurus. I tried it once and although it was interesting it ended rather badly. 
So I can not take sides in this debate about who has practiced tantric yoga 
with the greatest alacrity or whose Buddhist monk friend was/is higher on the 
evolutionary scale. So if you two want to spar over this kind of thing go right 
ahead. I'll be out in the forest somewhere listening to the owls.



On Friday, November 1, 2013 8:54:27 AM, Richard J. Williams 
 wrote:
 
  
We really need to cut emptybill some slack about this, Ann. He said his wife 
passed away - may she rest in peace. 

So, maybe that's a real tragedy, but why is he taking it out on
  me? I'm just trying to share information to make this group more
  interesting to read, unlike some others who seem to just want to
  wreck it. Go figure.

Now he's taking care of his daughter, so I guess we can assume
  that he practiced tantric yoga at least once in his life. 

I've spent forty years investigating the tantric tradition and
  it's relation to TM practice and studied with three tantric
  teachers. It's just a shame that we can't get more substantive
  information about tantra out of him, instead of all the grief he
  has directed at me and Vaj, seeing as how we're all three
  Buddhists. 

But, he doesn't sound much like a Buddhist and his teacher seems
  to have mixed up the dualism of the Sankhya with the non-dualism
  of the Vajrayana, so I can't really figure him or his teacher out.
  Apparently his teacher thinks making puja to Shiva is the
  'original' tantra, but everyone knows that Shiva worship came
  after the historical Buddha and the rise of the devotional sects
  in India, at the beginning of the Gupta period. Go figure. 

Did I tell you I attended the Kalachakra initiation with the
  Tibetan Dalai Lama at Los Angeles in July, 1989?

As in all Vajryana practices, the Kalachakra initiation empowers
  the disciple to practice tantra in the service of attaining
  enlightenment, not for the mere acquisition of material goods or
  fortune from Laksmi, but to attune the mind for the acceptance of
  voidness. So, far from being 'empty, our Bill seems to be pretty
  full of himself,but maybe he's just lashing out from prolonged
  grief - I don't know. 

On 11/1/2013 8:56 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
> 
>
>
>---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>
>You made my day, Ann! Now if we can just get emptybill to improve his 
>disposition. LoL!
>
>
>Perhaps someone should get a grip on his Shiva implement...that's usually good 
>for a momentary burst of bliss.
>
>
>On 11/1/2013 8:45 AM, awoelflebater@... wrote:
>>
>  
>> 
>>
>>
>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>>
>>
>>More meat on the bone? Get a grip, Anne, he said he was already doing puja to 
>>a 'Shiva Lingam'. Whatever; it doesn't seem to be improving his disposition 
>>very much. Go figure.
>>
>>
>>First of all my name is ANN. Secondly, I like your wordplay on the whole 
>>lingam/bone(er) thing. The addition of the term "get a grip" finishes off the 
>>double entendre nicely. 
>>
>>
>>On 10/31/2013 10:48 PM, awoelflebater@... wrote:
>>>
>>  
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>What a fucking idiot you are. 
>>>
>>>
>>>When my teacher came to my house he talked around and had kind and sage 
>>>advice for my daughter, She like him very much. He then 
>>>
>>>wanted to look around so I gave him the tour. When he got 
>>>
>>>to my sadhana room and looked at the large altar (set down
>>>low - Hindu style) and he saw the traditionally carved Shiva Lingam 
>>>
>>>surrounded by small rudraksha-a and covered with flower blossoms.
>>>Surmounting it were large hand-painted Thankas of various Vajrayana Yidam 
>>>and Dharma protectors ... like Ekajâti and Rahula. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>He pointed at the Lingam and said "Oh - Original Tantra!" That was 2005. He 
>>>asked questions about it and about what practice I did. I told him I didn't 
>>>do a daily abhisheka but rather did it "as desired ... kamya"
>>>ever since my wife died. I queried him further and he confirmed ... 
>>>
>>>"Yeah - not Buddhist but still good Tantra." He even considers Sank

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Mean Girls, the study

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Time is relative, it's only 7:08 here.



On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 7:04:06 AM, Richard J. Williams 
 wrote:
 
  
This must be some kind of a FFL record to post bat shit to the forum - it's 
only nine o'clock! Go figure.

On 10/29/2013 8:52 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
>Here's an interesting article on the difference between lino and tile 
>flooring. I wouldn't want Barry to add the only relevant link to FFL this 
>morning.
>
>
>http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070902191053AA0dgR8 
>
>
>---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>
>Here's an interesting article. 
>
>http://www.livescience.com/40717-indirect-aggression-between-females-works.html
> 
>
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: News You Can Use

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Yes Richard, we are a bit slow this morning. We'll try and speed it up next 
time. But it would be helpful if you could clarify which tube you want it to go 
down.



On Friday, October 18, 2013 8:24:14 AM, Richard J. Williams 
 wrote:
 
  
It took only about an hour for this thread to go down the tubes. Now that's 
better!

On 10/18/2013 10:10 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:

  
> 
>
>
>---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>
>In order to maintain balance in the Universe, I don't do asanas before not 
>going to the dome to meditate. You're welcome. 
>
>
>Ditto here.
>
>
>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:
>
>
>So evidently it would be very good to at least do asanas more vigorously. 
>Regularly.
>I do asanas every morning before I go to the Dome to meditate.
>Don't you?
>-Buck

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] College study finds Oreo cookies are as addictive as drugs

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Candy corn and candy corn flavoured Oreo cookies are two different things. I 
can't imagine why anyone would want to make Oreo cookies into a candy corn 
flavour when the original is perfection itself.



On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:44:57 AM, Share Long  
wrote:
 
  
Candy corn! Yuck! Might as well fill up the syringe with high fructose corn 
syrup and inject it right into your bloodstream! Perfect dessert to accompany 
streak o lean IMHO! Make sure your will, etc. is in order first!





On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:51 AM, "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Yes, ready-made "Double-stuff" is an abomination! Only the painstaking twisting 
off, of two dry wafers, from two intact Oreos, and then the blessed union of 
creme-stuff from each, making a home-grown "double-stuff", is acceptable. It 
tastes pretty good, when you work for it, but just adding another blob of creme 
at the factory, no fucking way!!!

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


That is my experience. Those things are deadly, seriously. It is impossible to 
eat one. Eating six is about the minimum at any one sitting that I can handle. 
I only like the originals though - non of that double stuff for me. The balance 
of outer wafer to inner white filling is perfection just as it is.



On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:27:53 PM, "anartaxius@..."  
wrote:
 
  
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/10/15/college-study-finds-oreo-cookies-are-as-addictive-as-drugs/

Re: [FairfieldLife] College study finds Oreo cookies are as addictive as drugs

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

That is my experience. Those things are deadly, seriously. It is impossible to 
eat one. Eating six is about the minimum at any one sitting that I can handle. 
I only like the originals though - non of that double stuff for me. The balance 
of outer wafer to inner white filling is perfection just as it is.



On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:27:53 PM, "anartax...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/10/15/college-study-finds-oreo-cookies-are-as-addictive-as-drugs/

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Places You Can't Afford to Live

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:47:25 AM, "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Consider yourself lucky, Ann. My property taxes are about $9000 per year, for 
an 1800 sq. ft., 65 year old house. 


Whoa! That is an inordinate amount. That is waterfront-type property taxes up 
here. We also have GST tax on all services plus that is added to our 7% 
Provincial tax on virtually all retail goods. So we pay 12% sales tax on most 
items we buy. I can't remember how our income taxes compare but Canada does not 
have any inheritance taxes. My father looked into becoming a Canadian citizen 
before he died just to save the 55% inheritance taxes on his estate. I wish he 
had!


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


An old couple I know down in San Antonio live in the family home that they 
inherited from his auntie. The guy says he pays about $100 per month in 
property taxes. Sounds like pretty cheap rent for a 1200 sq ft place on the 
south side of town. A lot of his property taxes go to local public schools. 
And, he doesn't even have any children! Go figure.

Yes, he is subsidizing your children just as I subsidize all those children I 
don't have up here in Canada with my property taxes. So, it appears we both 
live in Socialistic countries after all. Unfortunately, my taxes are over $5000 
per year for a 2900 sq foot house and a horse barn and hay barn.

"According to what I've read, a family shouldn't spend more than 31 percent of 
its pre-tax income on housing." Using those calculations, these 10 metros are 
the least affordable:

'Places Where The Middle Class Can’t Afford To Live Anymore'
http://www.theatlanticcities.com/housing//

Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: How the Supreme Court Resolve the Debt-Ceiling Crisis

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Now I am curious about this. A "high rent" district is unsustainable because it 
"takes more energy to continue than it generates"? I would have thought you 
might have meant the high cost of living in these expensive neighborhoods that 
seem to be, according to you, on the East and West Coasts of the USA were 
unsustainable because people were not going to be able to afford them soon. If 
that had been what you meant (and apparently it was not based on your post 
above) then I only would like to add that there will always be those who can 
afford expensive things. There will always be rich people who can maintain a 
lifestyle that includes multiple houses, expensive cars, expensive horses and 
lavish holidays. I really don't see the final days of expensive real estate or 
those who can afford to live there.



On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:33:30 AM, Share Long  
wrote:
 
  
Judy, when I say unsustainable I mean something that takes more energy to 
continue than it generates.





On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:21 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
As a "slang term," it refers to expensive neighborhoods, which wasn't what you 
were talking about. So it was even the wrong slang term.

And you ignored my question as to what you meant by "unsustainable." Obviously 
the usual meaning of that term doesn't work in this context either (and no, the 
article you linked to doesn't help us here, nor would the one you read "years 
ago").

So I repeat the question: Please explain what you mean by"unsustainable" in 
specific terms. What do you expect to happen? 

Share wrote:


> Judy, high rent districts is a slang term and thus not meant to be taken 
> literally.


I wrote:

> > OK, so it isn't "districts," it's cities; and it isn't "high rent," it's 
> > high housing costs in general.
> > Now that we've clarified that, please explain what you mean 
> > by"unsustainable" in specific terms. What do you expect to happen? 

>
Share wrote:
>> I'll do better than
>that, Judy. Here's a very cool website
>that> compares places cost wise.
>Comparing FF to Annapolis, MD> where my Mom lives, housing is
>255% more expensive there.> 
>http://www.bestplaces.net/cost-of-living/fairfield-ia/annapolis-md/5
>
>
>On Monday, October
>14, 2013 6:11 PM, "authfriend@..."
> wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Share
>wrote:  
>> >
>> John, I've gotten pretty spoiled living in a fairly
>inexpensive place like> > > FF. I think of
>those high rent
>districts on the east and west coasts
>as> > > being
>unsustainable, especially for an aging
>population.>> What, pray
>tell, do you mean by "high rent districts"? Give
>us an East Coast > example,
>please. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

This has to be a first. I don't think I could imagine anyone else on the planet 
saying this. 



On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:20:32 AM, Share Long  
wrote:
 
  
Richard, all this is just making me so happy that I'm 65 and on Medicare!





On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:30 AM, Richard Williams  
wrote:
 
  
So, the Obamacare PPACA looks like it may make you fill out all the personal 
information BEFORE you can see the insurance rates. That tells me they don't 
want you to see the rates because they are so high. If 50 million people are 
uninsured today, mainly because insurance is too expensive, why is it better to 
make coverage even costlier?

And, you can't buy out of state insurance across state lines; and military 
dependents aren't covered by Tricare to age 26. And, the system just gets 
slower and slower every day. Go figure.

People should be fired - throw the bums out! ObamaCare is one of the best 
reasons to  vote Libertarianism in the next election.

'Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly 
Its Plans Are'
Forbes:
http://www.forbes.com/

' Obamacare Regs 30X Longer Than Law'
http://www.cnsnews.com/



On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Ann Woelfle Bater  
wrote:

 
>  
>Whine, whine, whine. I wish that damn US health care package would hurry up 
>and get up and running 'cause then maybe we won't have to listen to all the 
>fear mongering and complaining. Maybe if you stop calling it "Obamacare" you 
>will start opening your mind a little and becoming more objective. So many who 
>are against it are not fans of Obama so they label the health plan "Obama" 
>such and such. Next it'll be "Obamawar", "Obamacrime", Obamapollution" ...
>
>
>
>On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43:15 AM, Richard Williams 
> wrote:
> 
>  
>Obanmcare was supposed to be Obama's signature legislation. He had plenty of 
>time to get this right, but it's obvious Obama knows nothing about running a 
>business or coding a program. He got Obamacare passed in the middle of the 
>night, before anyone had even read it - not a single Repub voted for 
>Obamacare. What's up with that?
>
>
>
>
>On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Share Long  wrote:
>
> 
>>  
>>Bhairitu, about the good idea of a maximum wage, I'd like to also suggest 
>>that for actors. I would also include athletes but their shelf life is 
>>shorter and they are much more susceptible to injuries. What will it take to 
>>bring the economy more into balance?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:28 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>Okay, I have a Google Nexus phone, but  it wasn't free but I didn't pay what 
>>the telcos say it costs when they offered it as a contract phone.  I bought 
>>it direct from Google Play and they update the phone OS when the latest OS 
>>comes out (eat your heart out Alex).
>>
>>But I don't chatter much on phones.  I mainly communicate via
  email.  BTW, I owned my first cellphone back in the early 1990s. 
  I paid $20 a month for 60 minutes of talk.  Today I pay $30 a
  month for 100 minutes of talk, unlimited texting (which I rarely
  do) and 5 GB of 4G data which I use though only around 1/2 GB a
  month.  Go figure.  The plan is a prepay too (no contract).  
>>
>>The Nexus is GSM so if I want to move to another GSM carrier I
  just get their SIM card and install it.  And the phone acts as a
  "remote" for the Chromecast.
>>
>>I have Medicare Part A only.  I won't pay for the B part nor for
  supplemental.  If I have a medical emergency I figure I'll
  negotiate a lower fee from the provider (you can do that BTW).  
>>
>>Look into what Uninted Health Care pays their CEO BTW.  His salary
  is too damn high!  We not only need a minimum wage but a maximum
  wage too.
>>
>>On 10/11/2013 07:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>>
>>  
>>>There's an old guy I know who lives up in Austin - he has a Virgin Mobile 
>>>'pay as you go' cell phone. It's a Samsung flip phone - simple operation and 
>>>it was free. Now that's better!
>>>
>>>When he needs to talk he can buy some minutes at the store
  - he can buy a $10 or $20 top-up card. The old guy is only
  spending a few dollars every three months on his phone!
  Now this is really funny - the guy doesn't have anyone to
  talk to much, but he can pay for his phone as he goes.
  LoL!
>>>
>>>The big problem is that the rent's too damn 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

A couple of letters.



On Sunday, October 13, 2013 8:54:11 AM, Share Long  
wrote:
 
  
Ok, emptybill, it's been a long time since I heard about smriti and shruti and 
it looks like no one else is gonna ask so: what is the difference between them?





On Sunday, October 13, 2013 10:41 AM, "emptyb...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Questioner:   So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to
give some sort of context to his enlightement?
 
Ram:  Yes.  Now that Ramana is getting
fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai
with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life,
with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with
amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana
fantasies.
 
Anyway, Ramana’s
type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a
traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga,
although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did.  His lifestyle too, 
sitting in meditation in a
cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic.  The reason 
yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by 
the language of Yoga
into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi.  So when 
the experience is ‘on’ they are not
looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state
permanent, sahaja.  The joke is
that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent
experience.   Furthermore, they do not
realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an
agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in
it … which is a dualistic state, not enlightenment.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: On Ramana, Yoga and Vedanta

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Well I-Went-to-Empty-the-Trash-and-I-Only-Got-As-Far-As-the-Door, you probably 
didn't realize my tutelage was all at the hands of Inowitall Andudont and 
therefore I could run circles around your supposed knowledge on all of this. 
Currently, my teacher (you may have heard of her, she is the one and only 
Celestial Moody) and she focuses primarily on the Sovlakian Gangnum Style 
Romoulade cooking most favoured by Gypsy fire eaters. I am happy to provide 
some reading material if you care to expand your horizons. You appear to have 
spent an inordinate amount of time perusing the bargain section in your local 
book store and dwelling far to deeply into the make believe world of men - so 
many men. I guarantee that a woman's POV might prove fascinating for you (as I 
know all of my posts to you have left you further enlightened) and Ms Moody is 
jus the woman for the job.



On Monday, October 14, 2013 9:02:55 PM, "emptyb...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
Well Tea House ... 


You didn't say exactly when you were
leaving but the link you provided was enough to assay the quality. Perhaps you
didn't realized that I received training in Buddhism by Professor Alfonso
Verdu. Under his tutelage, I received extensive teachings about
Yogachara/Vijñanavada, Madhyamaka and HwaYen/Kegon. 


You also don't appear to realize that
my current teacher is Younge Khachab Rimpoche VII, who is a Tibetan
Khenpo-Geshe Rabjam and focuses particularly upon classical Mahayana, four and
nine level Tantra, the Ganga Mahamudra of Tilopa/Naropa and the Dzogchen 
transmissions
of Vimalamitra and Longchenpa. Khachab has stayed at my house and has been very
generous with his personal teachings to me. I state it this way so you realize
that I have been over this stuff before and don’t intend to waste time
analyzing arguments by the like of Prairie Dog Willy or your blogging-friend
Kevin Whatever.  


So sorry Ol' Tea House ...  but
the site only proffers old academic ideas long refuted and dismissed. Perhaps
it all appeared clever to you but it only wasted my time. Glad though that you
know who is and who is not "enlightened". Perhaps you'll 'spanit to
me because I do not find illumination in your undefined idea of 'lighten-mint'
- which really only really means the Germanic Aufklärung. 


And don't gime more of MMY's
7 states. I was trained as a TM teacher and though it took me awhile to realize
that he just made this stuff up, I certainly don’t intend to listen to it 
again. 



---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Empty, I'm soon out of town, so no time now to give you a deserving answer. But 
since you like to pontificate with the voice of RAM aka  James Swartz, I owe it 
to my close friend and Tiru resident Kevinanandaji, to expose you to his 
satirizing him. Here, take this, about your new found hero: 
http://chi-ting.blogspot.de/search/label/James%20Swartz%20%28Ram%29 (and don't 
take it too serious!)



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Questioner:   So you’re talking about Yoga and Vedanta to
give some sort of context to his enlightement?
 
Ram:  Yes.  Now that Ramana is getting
fame it is rather sad to see all these Western people coming to Tiruvannamalai
with absolutely no notion of the context of his enlightenment and his life,
with no understanding of the depth of the Vedic tradition and burdened with
amazing and ill-considered views of enlightenment based on their Ramana
fantasies.
 
Anyway, Ramana’s
type of realization, because it did not occur at the feet of a guru in a
traditional Vedantic classroom, is more in line with the tradition of Yoga,
although most yogis do not become jnanis as Ramana did.  His lifestyle too, 
sitting in meditation in a
cave, is more typical of the yogic tradition than the Vedantic.  The reason 
yogis do not usually become jnanis is because they have often been confused by 
the language of Yoga
into thinking of enlightenment as a permanent experience of samadhi.  So when 
the experience is ‘on’ they are not
looking to understand anything, they are simply trying to make the state
permanent, sahaja.  The joke is
that enlightenment is not an experience, nor is there any permanent
experience.   Furthermore, they do not
realize that to make an experience permanent one would have to be a doer, an
agent acting on the experience, maintaining it or controlling it or staying in
it … which is a dualistic state, not enlightenment.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Rent is Too Damn High!

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Whine, whine, whine. I wish that damn US health care package would hurry up and 
get up and running 'cause then maybe we won't have to listen to all the fear 
mongering and complaining. Maybe if you stop calling it "Obamacare" you will 
start opening your mind a little and becoming more objective. So many who are 
against it are not fans of Obama so they label the health plan "Obama" such and 
such. Next it'll be "Obamawar", "Obamacrime", Obamapollution" ...



On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:43:15 AM, Richard Williams  
wrote:
 
  
Obanmcare was supposed to be Obama's signature legislation. He had plenty of 
time to get this right, but it's obvious Obama knows nothing about running a 
business or coding a program. He got Obamacare passed in the middle of the 
night, before anyone had even read it - not a single Repub voted for Obamacare. 
What's up with that?




On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Share Long  wrote:

 
>  
>Bhairitu, about the good idea of a maximum wage, I'd like to also suggest that 
>for actors. I would also include athletes but their shelf life is shorter and 
>they are much more susceptible to injuries. What will it take to bring the 
>economy more into balance?
>
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>On Friday, October 11, 2013 11:28 AM, Bhairitu  wrote:
> 
>  
>Okay, I have a Google Nexus phone, but  it wasn't free but I didn't pay what 
>the telcos say it costs when they offered it as a contract phone.  I bought it 
>direct from Google Play and they update the phone OS when the latest OS comes 
>out (eat your heart out Alex).
>
>But I don't chatter much on phones.  I mainly communicate via
  email.  BTW, I owned my first cellphone back in the early 1990s. 
  I paid $20 a month for 60 minutes of talk.  Today I pay $30 a
  month for 100 minutes of talk, unlimited texting (which I rarely
  do) and 5 GB of 4G data which I use though only around 1/2 GB a
  month.  Go figure.  The plan is a prepay too (no contract).  
>
>The Nexus is GSM so if I want to move to another GSM carrier I
  just get their SIM card and install it.  And the phone acts as a
  "remote" for the Chromecast.
>
>I have Medicare Part A only.  I won't pay for the B part nor for
  supplemental.  If I have a medical emergency I figure I'll
  negotiate a lower fee from the provider (you can do that BTW).  
>
>Look into what Uninted Health Care pays their CEO BTW.  His salary
  is too damn high!  We not only need a minimum wage but a maximum
  wage too.
>
>On 10/11/2013 07:11 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
>  
>>There's an old guy I know who lives up in Austin - he has a Virgin Mobile 
>>'pay as you go' cell phone. It's a Samsung flip phone - simple operation and 
>>it was free. Now that's better!
>>
>>When he needs to talk he can buy some minutes at the store
  - he can buy a $10 or $20 top-up card. The old guy is only
  spending a few dollars every three months on his phone!
  Now this is really funny - the guy doesn't have anyone to
  talk to much, but he can pay for his phone as he goes.
  LoL!
>>
>>The big problem is that the rent's too damn high!
>>
>>The old guy is on Medicare, Part A and Part B, and he's
  got UnitedHealth Care as a supplement. 
>>
>>'Thousands of doctors fired by United HealthCare'
>>News8:
>>http://www.wtnh.com/news/health/thousands-of-doctors-fired-by-united-healthcare
>>
>>On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>>
>>The rent is just too damn high! The rent bill is up; the electric bill is up; 
>>the water bill is up; the cable TV bill is up. These days it costs forty 
>>bucks just to take a date out for a drink and dinner at Sam's Burger Joint! 
>>Go figure.
>>>
>>>Now, the medical insurance bill is going up?
>>>
>>>Not to mention fixing the price - so that younger people
pay more to keep the premiums down for the older folks. 
>>>
>>>If we had a single payer system for medical care, the
federal government would pay all medical expenses for
everyone. So, how much would the rent go up with a
government paid health care system?  
>>>
>>>Go figure.
>>>
>>>If I am elected, I promise a job for everyone so they
can make a decent living wage and pay their own medical
insurance bills. That's my ticket - to create jobs to
make money and lower medical care expenses.
>>>
>>>"The trouble is that loss aversion also militates
against buying insurance. Especially if you don't make a
lot of money--and many young people don't--writing that
premium check is painful if not prohibitive."
>>>
>>>'The Young and the Clueless'
>>>Wall Street Journal:
>>>http://online.wsj.com/article
>>>
>>>On 10/10/2013 7:41 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>>>
>>>It looks like New York and New Jersey have some of the highest taxes in the 
>>>U.S. 

And, the rent is too da

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Another Of My Usual

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

On Saturday, October 12, 2013 2:08:38 AM, iranitea  
wrote:
 
  
Hi Ann. Thanks for all the three videos. I saw them all. Of course I know the 
joy of movement! What did you think? Come on, I have been walking on my hands 
half of my life, as a kid and also as an adult, I still do it! But IMHO these 
are two topics, getting vairagya through meditation, loving the bliss of 
meditation, and enjoying movement, like dancing for example, or any type of 
creative expression btw.. 

That first video I posted was a mistake but glad you liked them. And of course 
I never implied you didn't like to move but I had no idea you liked to walk on 
your hands - maybe that's what happens when you meditate too long - you can't 
tell your head from your tail!

I really like elephants, I was riding on one when I was in a wild life park in 
India, seeing tigers in the free wild life. I was lucky, we saw 11 tigers on 
one day, four of them from the elephant. One time I was walking in a procession 
at the Kumbha Mela, and suddenly had the feeling of a presence walking next to 
me. I looked and it was an elephant. He walked alone, and so conscious in the 
whole crowd, that you would never have the fear he would run you over. They are 
so controlled and gently!
Elephants are beyond amazing. So smart, so herd oriented, so social and 
incredibly powerful in their presence. A real example of the sacredness 
possible in a being. You are very lucky to have been around them - touched them.

It's not an either or. Great saints /meditators like Ramana Maharshi loved 
animals and had them all around them. Go to the Ramana Ashram in 
Tiruvanamallai, and you will see Samadhi shrines of his pet animals, a cow, a 
dog, a peacock. Anyway, the place is full of peacocks.
Of course those who spend their lives meditating are not precluded from loving 
and enjoying anything on this planet including animals. I would think they 
might be more inclined to appreciate them if they are, in fact, touching on the 
deeper aspects of creation and themselves during all this meditating. If you 
couldn't come to adore and recognize the rest of the living, breathing world as 
precious and astounding as one's own existence then meditation is worthless.
 But thanks for sharing, Ann. I never get any feeling of ill will or 
aggressiveness from you, besides the fact, that we have different orientations 
and opinions, and I appreciate that. I'm sure, if we met outside of FFL, we 
just could be friends.
I am glad to hear you say this. It is rarely my intention to appear aggressive 
or mean. I'll give a poke where a poke is due and I have never tolerated any 
unwarranted "abuse" against myself or others so other than that I'm a fairly 
nice person! Of course Barry claims I'm a Mean Girl which I take as a personal 
badge of honour coming from him.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


For I ran a tea house:
Now this is an example of the joy and exuberance of activity. That orangutan is 
CRAZY!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535&set=vb.1042328132&type=2&theater

[FairfieldLife] Another Of My Usual

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

For I ran a tea house:
Now this is an example of the joy and exuberance of activity. That orangutan is 
CRAZY!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201359076552535&set=vb.1042328132&type=2&theater

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The power nap: an alternative to TM?

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

This is totally the wrong video. That one sucks. This is the one I wanted to 
link to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVI4fyXo9cY&list=TLEr2mTnD_hFczwf7HOR6ut8p0FNSGtcaM




On Friday, October 11, 2013 7:12:41 AM, "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  


I ran a tea house wrote:

Thanks Ann for your answer. My fist thought was, that I was a bit too snarky, 
sarcastic, so whatever I wrote - don't take it personal - but I think you 
already got that. Of course I have nothing against horses, they are beautiful 
animals, and even though I don't really ride horses, I still meet them when I 
run out, as they are here in the fields, and many people in the area where I 
live ride horses, there are horse races in the next village, where people come 
from the whole county. So, again sorry for the sometimes overly snarky tone. 

No problem, I like dialoguing here on this forum. What we have been talking 
about interests me. 

Regarding you, I take it that meditation is not really for you, I don't want 
you to be anybody else than you are. I don't want to persuade you to either do 
2 x 20, or take up the dome program, or anything else.

You are correct, up to this point in my life I simply find activity far more 
desirable in my life then sitting with eyes closed. I began meditating at the 
age of 14 and did so without fail until I was 30 or so. I rounded, I did the 
siddhis. The best meditations I ever had were when I was being checked. The 
combination of the teacher being present with quiet instructions to open and 
close the eyes was very soothing and the resulting meditations deep and 
nurturing. However, virtually every meditation in the afternoons resulted in 
sleep.

But there are people who are inclined to having long meditations, who are 
lovers of meditation, you may find them on Purusha, or also in many other 
spiritual groups, or they are simply on their own. To think that they do this, 
because they have nothing else to do is rubbish. To think that they just sit 
around and let time pass is equally rubbish. 

I actually never really meant that completely seriously. But how this 
conversation started was when Share claimed those who meditated for 7.5 hours 
per day were "spiritual warriors". She never replied concerning why she feels 
this but I certainly don't agree. People meditate for themselves, for their own 
ends (no problem) and one is hardly a "warrior" doing that nor is it 
particularly gruelling in any way to sit on your ass for hours on end unless 
you are me who would find it tortuous.

It makes me feel you don't know meditation very well, it's okay you have an 
active life and enjoy it.

Meditation is something I did for 16 years every day, twice a day. I know it 
well enough. I still occasionally practice TM.

I also think that those who pursue a Purusha type lifestyle should do so, 
because it is an urge from within, because there is a real calling, not because 
they want to 'achieve' something, or they have to force themselves.

No argument here. But my point was that these people have nothing else pressing 
in their lives so they can have that 'luxury' of basically living their lives 
with eyes closed repeating some mantra (or not). Going on purusha, spending all 
that time would not be possible if they were Olympic hopefuls, great scientists 
or had three children to feed. 

Also, I am very active myself, I have to do many things, so I cannot afford to 
meditate 7 1/2 hours,

Exactly part of my point.

 and since much of the effect of meditation has spread into activity, I also 
don't need so much meditation anymore. But I still like it, and meditate every 
day - and I never regret doing a single meditation. Meditation has always been 
my best friend. (and that's not because I have no other friends ;-))

Good one.

One thing more I like to mention: With meditation there comes a deep sense of 
detachment. That's obviously diametrically opposed to the sense of passion and 
interest, you may get with other things. That means you can't love the world 
anymore, but your love and sense of passion will be different.

And to Judy: she doesn't know me at all, the life that I am leading, she just 
tries to take an easy shot at me.


I don't think Judy takes "easy" shots. She considers carefully. She is not a 
careless person. Whether she is correct in her assessment about you or not only 
you can really know, if you are open enough to really evaluate what she has to 
say about you. If she is wrong she is wrong but I don't think she says what she 
says here without good reason - from her perspective.

I have included a link that is hopefully clickable (based on your instructions 
the other day). It is kind of a cool video about "equestrians". It doesn't say 
it all nor does it say it perfectly but it does touch on a bit of wha

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The power nap: an alternative to TM?

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

On Thursday, October 10, 2013 9:17:23 AM, Share Long  
wrote:
 
  
Ann, I don't remember when I first heard the word dharma, but safe to say over 
35 years ago. I would say that a person in their dharma has an ease and flow 
about them, active without being frantic, calm without being dull. I'd say 
further that the ultimate dharma is to realize and live, on the physical, 
mental and emotional levels that one is in harmony with everyone and everything 
else.




On Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:08 AM, "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com" 
 wrote:
 
  
 


---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Doc, I said something about win win! Anyway, I think people do best for the 
world when they're doing their dharma whatever that might be (-: 

Is this actually saying anything? What is your dharma? How can we tell what our 
dharma is or that dharma actually exists? Do you always speak in such 
generalities? Is this your dharma? Can you tell when someone is living their 
dharma? Is there a chance there is no such thing as dharma and would your life 
be less rich if this was some made up idea? What percentage of the things you 
say have you actually analyzed and thought deeply about? 



On Thursday, October 10, 2013 10:21 AM, "doctordumbass@..."  
wrote:
 
  
Hi Share - who said anything about a win-win? I was making the point that one 
can be doing far more [for the world] than someone engaged in the TMSP for 7 
and 1/2 hrs. per day, although no explicit signs are there. That is all. If 
people want to sit around in the dome, that is fine. Recognize though, that it 
is not the ne plus ultra it is made out to be. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Doc, I think it's a win win. Either the person is calm and radiates that; or 
they're releasing stress and thus becoming more calm. BTW, I had to reply from 
Basic because the list in Full Featured did not have your post!

Isn't life simple? Just meditate and no matter what happens or how someone is 
acting they are evolving to a better, calmer place. 


On Wed, 10/9/13, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
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>>Subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: The power nap: an 
>>alternative to TM?
>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>>Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 12:08 PM
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>>Hey Share,
>>if a person is established in silence all the time, they no
>>longer need to round seven and a half hours a day. It
>>continues 24/7. So, there is not really a correlation
>>between time explicitly spent meditating, and a person's
>>ability to be a source of calm, vs a generator of
>>noise. 
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>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
>> wrote:
>>
>>Ann, there were 2
>>posts and in one you focused on rounding spouses. As a
>>response to the other, I refer you to this comment from
>>Seraphita: We
>>understand what you're saying but it is a common belief
>>in all 
>>contemplative traditions that communities joined together
>>practising 
>>silent prayer (eg, monks and nuns) have a beneficial effect
>>on the world
>>even though to practical, common-sense types they seem to
>>be a waste of
>>space. Indeed, even the very recollection that there are
>>men and women 
>>who forsake the feverish ambitions of the mass of people
>>induces a 
>>feeling of calm!
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>>On Wednesday,
>>October 9, 2013 10:28 AM, "awoelflebater@..."
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>>---In
>>FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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>>Now
>>this comment from Judy is a perfect example of snarky IMO.
>>Ann had criticized that people rounding for 7 1/2 hours were
>>thus separated from their spouses. I responded reasonably
>>noting that spouses who work away from home are also
>>separated for 7 1/2 hours or so.
>>My point, though, was not so much about spouses but
>>more about the fact that people who meditate for 7.5 hours a
>>day are not, in my opinion, "spiritual warriors"
>>and that they obviously have absolutely nothing more
>>desirable or pressing in their lives to
>>apply themselves to. I would have to question their
>>interestingness as human beings let alone their
>>productiveness and ability to take advantage of all of the
>>richness this waking life has to offer.
>>
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Religion for dogs

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

This article is not news nor is it groundbreaking. As the first commenter on 
the article says, every dog owner already knows this. But the most interesting 
part of this small snippet are the comments that follow. They clearly show how 
fucked up people are. Just read the first ten or so respondents beginning with 
the first coherent post and watch the subsequent posters proceed down, what 
Richard states, the proverbial rabbit hole. Humanity = insanity. Dogs = 
unconditional desire to adore.



On Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:02:33 AM, Share Long  
wrote:
 
  
iranitea, here's an article from Kurzweil all about how dogs and human are 
similar in their devotion.

http://www.kurzweilai.net/dogs-are-people-too?utm_source=KurzweilAI+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=1d5b260b01-UA-946742-1&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6de721fb33-1d5b260b01-282061598



On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 9:14 AM, iranitea  wrote:
 
  

Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: So You Can All Relax Now

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

And I thank you for that as it did help. I will make sure there are no 
duplicate http's in the link box.



On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 7:09:58 AM, iranitea  
wrote:
 
  
Oh is that so..? But I didn't mean to be snarky really - I just wanted to give 
you some technical information, If you already knew that - sorry.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVVxXdOKrgo



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Dear I-ran-a-tea-house-but-don't-anymore I think Judy was picking up on your 
snarkiness and was mostly addressing that. It wasn't about the nitpicking 
details. 



On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:48:16 AM, iranitea  
wrote:
 
  
Judy, this is a perfect example, of how going into nitpicking details, does 
nothing to make things more clear, but rather helps to lose sight of the whole. 
Why? Because everybody can see that the http:// is already inserted in the link 
window that opens. But it is also selected, so that when you paste a new URL 
into it, it will be overwritten. (You'd have to click somewhere in the window 
to de-select it, and then paste, and you get the double http). What I had said, 
is just a short way of saying, well you had the double http:// in your link. So 
I wonder why you write stuff like this? Did you miss, that this is there in the 
subtext of my statement already? Is it that you just want to be right?


This may be a trivial issue, but this is how your arguments go 90% of the time. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Iranitea wrote:


> It's because you inserted the http://http:// two times.
>>> It's your mistake actually.
>>
>>Ann didn't insert http:// twice, actually. The Rich Text editor's
>clickable-link feature already has http:// in the window where you
>paste the URL. If the URL you want to insert already has http://,
>as is usually the case, you have to delete it (or delete the
>one in the window), or you'll end up with two in the URL when it
>appears in the message.
>
>
>> You can also just select a
>>> url, and right click, 'open link in new tap'
>>
>>Tab, not "tap."
>(snip)
>
>---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,
> wrote:
>
>
>> > Typical, I add
>>> > a link and it clicks but takes you nowhere. You'll have
>>> > to just do it the hard way:
>>> > http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders+exist/9011120/story.html
>>> >  

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: So You Can All Relax Now

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Dear I-ran-a-tea-house-but-don't-anymore I think Judy was picking up on your 
snarkiness and was mostly addressing that. It wasn't about the nitpicking 
details. 



On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 6:48:16 AM, iranitea  
wrote:
 
  
Judy, this is a perfect example, of how going into nitpicking details, does 
nothing to make things more clear, but rather helps to lose sight of the whole. 
Why? Because everybody can see that the http:// is already inserted in the link 
window that opens. But it is also selected, so that when you paste a new URL 
into it, it will be overwritten. (You'd have to click somewhere in the window 
to de-select it, and then paste, and you get the double http). What I had said, 
is just a short way of saying, well you had the double http:// in your link. So 
I wonder why you write stuff like this? Did you miss, that this is there in the 
subtext of my statement already? Is it that you just want to be right?


This may be a trivial issue, but this is how your arguments go 90% of the time. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:


Iranitea wrote:


> It's because you inserted the http://http:// two times.
>> It's your mistake actually.
>
>Ann didn't insert http:// twice, actually. The Rich Text editor's
clickable-link feature already has http:// in the window where you
paste the URL. If the URL you want to insert already has http://,
as is usually the case, you have to delete it (or delete the
one in the window), or you'll end up with two in the URL when it
appears in the message.


> You can also just select a
>> url, and right click, 'open link in new tap'
>
>Tab, not "tap."
(snip)

---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com,
 wrote:


> > Typical, I add
>> > a link and it clicks but takes you nowhere. You'll have
>> > to just do it the hard way:
>> > http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/Dozens+mental+disorders+exist/9011120/story.html
>> >  

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Petition to Yahoo to bag Neo and bring back Classic

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Yes, it is easy and I just did it.





 From: "authfri...@yahoo.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 12:02:16 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Petition to Yahoo to bag Neo and bring back 
Classic
 


  
Michael wrote: 

Yahoo, like all guv'ments and the TM Movement don't give a damn what people 
want, need or think, as long as said organizations get paid.



Duh. The point of the petition is to have something to show Yahoo's 
advertisers, since increasing ad revenue is what was behind the Neo disaster. 
As I said, it can't hurt, and it's easy enough to sign a petition.



 From: "authfriend@..." 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 2:20 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Petition to Yahoo to bag Neo and bring back Classic
 


  
At change.org:
http://www.change.org/petitions/yahoo-groups-i-want-the-old-yahoo-groups-back?share_id=dvEgMDtbIe&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition

Can't hurt.



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: HELP.!! Alex, Rick, I am again in a pig muck pit...

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

YES! I wrote about this yesterday. This lag time issue really takes the "punch" 
out of conversing here. It is like shouting into the mountains and waiting a 
long time to get an echo. It takes the immediacy and the effectiveness of 
dialogue away. FFL functioning like this is not nearly as dynamic. I hope it 
sorts itself out in the next little while because this scrambled, badly-timed, 
messages-gone-missing business is absurd.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Come Back Raja Luis!

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Well, maybe people have to actually be "flying" and "yogic" before there is any 
effect. We have all yet to see this.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Buckifying Scripture

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Share, I think you should eschew the "senior" variety (sounds like dog food) 
and stick with the regular version. For one, thinking of yourself as "senior" 
is not the way to go. And secondly, guts are guts and they all require 
probiotics. I seriously doubt the senior version is much different, when it 
comes to hundreds of millions of "good bacteria" available in one capsule, and 
you are just buying into America's penchant for obsessing on the aging 
population. Viva la revolution!

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Who told you how to respond? I merely indicated that I found it fascinating 
that you can't, apparently, figure out when to drink a glass of water without 
reading a book.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count burpola

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Oh Geez Share, I thought you had already been neo'd. Now we get to look forward 
to your growing pains. Test.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

My advice Share: you don't need someone in a book to tell you when to drink a 
glass of water. Or to tell you when to pee, do you?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Drink More Water

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

That formula for water is way too extravagant. I basically don't drink water at 
all. If I were to follow your 'rule' I would be imbibing 70 oz of water per 
day. I could swim in that amount. These people who walk around with water 
bottles and who can't seem to make it to the end of their driveways without a 
canteen astound me. This is a fairly recent phenomenon, all this water 
drinking. If you aren't thirsty why drink? Surely the body can tell us if it 
needs moisture. My stomach sure as hell lets me know when it is empty or my 
bladder when it is full or my skin if there is something pricking it. Drinking 
so much water has to raise hell with the kidneys.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count burpola

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

It doesn't look like the pulse of FFL is beating very strongly. Amazing how a 
little change of format has ripped the heart right out of this thing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Tue 10-Sep-13 00:15:06 UTC

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Hang in there "testing", it must be a test. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count Mon 09-Sep-13 00:15:09 UTC

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Hang in there Obba. It will get better. We will, like lab rats, eventually 
adapt to all this newness and once again FFL will be the vibrant and brilliant 
community it once was before NEO. But for the time being, as we all attempt to 
figure out how to post with colour, include images, have our posts actually 
show up or at least appear within 24 hours, we must just live with the faith 
that it is all for our spiritual growth and evolution. It is comical actually, 
because it is like being in some demented time warp never being sure that an 
response will show up after an initial post is made or if it will appear in 
triplicate. Trying to keep choronlogy straight is also a mind bender but for 
God's sake woman, don't abandon ship!

[FairfieldLife] RE: Describing Communal (Meditating) Fairfield

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Communism anyone?

Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Dear Prudence – an i nterview with Prudence Farrow

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

I fail to see how keeping a passport of MMY's or his sandals is any weirder 
than someone keeping the same items belonging to any other celebrity, famous 
writer, musician, politician etc, etc, etc that someone had the good fortune to 
have in their possession. One person's treasure is another person's trash, as 
they say (or something like that.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Survival

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

There will be no surviving a global disaster. All of the 'nice' people will be 
slaughtered or deprived of the living essentials and all of the 'survival' 
types will be instrumental in ensuring they remain alive as long as possible 
(along with their families). The worst characteristics of the human being will 
predominate and no one will be safe from plundering or maiming or death. Those 
who might come through all of that will be either the really ruthless ones or 
those who just had a whole lot of dumb luck or fell down a well-stocked hole at 
some point.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did the prairie chicken cross the road?

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

I really like the foot movement of the males during their courtship. They've 
made me swoon and conquered my affections.

[FairfieldLife] Re: last night I dreamt of judy stein . . .

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: A dance scene that always transports me to paradise

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

I am not so sure the Brits are that Puritanical actually. The Victorian era 
Brits of a certain class might have pretended they were. I think the British 
are some of the most charmingly twisted people around - sexually and otherwise.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Question for Rick

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Aw, don't be sore. I just wish I had more gossip for you. But seeing as I 
haven't followed what the Movement is doing since 1987 I'm a lousy source.

Re: Re: RE: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Phew, that blows my mind. The very idea. If I had only known with such 
certainty the influences on my every move, let alone such a big move as getting 
initiated, I would have been a lot more careful. As it is, I have no idea what 
is happening in the solar system or, indeed, the entire Universe so I guess I'm 
toast.

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Question for Rick

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

GOT IT, AND THANK YOU!!

[FairfieldLife] Re: I blame the haystacks (was Sacre Bleu)

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Dear Bob, you have written a cracker of a first post as a new member of the 
MGC. My congratulations on your ingenuity and creativity. For this you are 
awarded the coveted and hallowed "Haystack Award". Keep up the good work. 
(How's that clubroom coming?)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reasons why Neo might be timely

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

[FairfieldLife] RE: Reasons why Neo might be timely

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Judy, this response held everything and more of what Barry was asking and was 
not asking in his post this morning. I especially appreciated your explanation 
and description of why and how viewpoints can be spiritual here although they 
may not be talking about anything other than war or movies or commenting on the 
post of another. There is no limit to how intelligence can be expressed and we 
have a wonderful collage of personalities who are able to see and, in turn, 
portray the individuality and depth of their experience of the world to the 
rest of us.

It is, of course, predictable that Barry cites the posters who mostly agree 
with him as those he finds worthy to read. This is an old story and more a sign 
of him as a person than a valid certification of the worthwhileness of these 
peoples' posts (not to say that the "worthwhile" posts by those he deems 
readable aren't, indeed readable).

And we have all lamented the fact that Salyavin has left for the moment, no one 
here has blasted him for it. I certainly appealed for him to come back. So, as 
usual, Barry is making this up to create more dissension and ill will. Why 
would he do that? (Rhetorical question.) 

This week in particular has been a great example of people actually 
spontaneously interacting more like they might do in real life in a room where 
conversation follows a flow with one viewpoint or interjection after another. 
It has a more natural and friendly flow to it than when there were posting 
limits. I think Barry wants to pontificate and he likes this sort of gag order 
emerging once certain people hit a particular post count. He waits and plans 
for this. He loves the soapbox and would prefer it if no one else could speak 
unless it was to support and stroke him. Otherwise, the rest of us should shut 
up because he has far more important things to say and we better listen while 
he misleads and abuses and makes it very, very clear (in his mind) why we are 
all lacking in one way or another as humans and as creative people.

Barry might take small breaks but he'll never leave, not for the immediate 
future. For as much as he dislikes most of the people here and claims 
superficiality on our parts he needs a dogs body to kick and yank around. He 
also needs to leap onto his battered old soapbox often enough to make himself 
feel important.

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: RE: RE: Raja Luis Success

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

I have no problem with lots of money or those who possess it. I do, however, 
have a small problem with the wardrobe.

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Raja Luis Success

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

The first thing I would do is remove the crown. Then I might start laughing and 
watch to see if they might find this remotely humorous. If so, I would return 
the said crown but only on condition that they incorporate it into their next 
Halloween costume and not, for one moment, think they actually deserve to wear 
it for any other reason.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 20 Big Questions.

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: colors or colours depending upon the country you live in

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

I did it via the "reply to group" with email. But I'm still swimming around in 
the comparative dark. I'm never quite sure where I'm going or what is going to 
be the end result once I hit various keys. FFL really is becoming the perfect 
metaphor for life.

[FairfieldLife] colors or colours depending upon the country you live in

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

To Judy: I'll show you and that Bob Price guy. I can type in colour/color. Now 
I'm going to do something astounding! Watch this...

RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Obama will bomb if Congress gives approval

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

Doc, you are hilarious. I rather enjoy this image of Mothra enveloping 
Washington in its gauze. Maybe that will keep the government from making any 
stupid, warlike moves in the next little while. 













I

[FairfieldLife] RE: New Groups Format?

[Ann Woelfle Bater]

I'm flummoxed, confounded and this message may not get where I want it to go. 
I'll press send and see what happens. Raunchy, you are officially my guinea 
pig. The only way I seem to be able to read posts anymore is to read my mail 
instead. Before that I always used the website to read and type. This new 
format might just be the answer to posting limits 'cause I'm not sure I can 
figure this all out.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Diamonds and Rust

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> 
> > I know I'm rambling, but that was the nature of the evening
> > and of the Great Conversation itself. No plan, no intent, no
> > egos, no "I'm right and you're wrong," no barbs, no insults,
> > no one trying to "lead" the conversation and take it in any
> > particular direction. Just people who were comfortable with
> > each other *being* comfortable with each other, and enjoying
> > where *that* might lead the conversation. It made me a little 
> > nostalgic for those rare times when such conversations have
> > broken out on Fairfield Life, and for the even rarer egolessness
> > and sense of comfort that made them possible.
> > 
> > I'm writing this in the hope that they're still possible, and
> > that they might happen here again someday. If they can't, I
> > honestly don't see much point in sticking around.
> 
> I can't help observing that some of the very best
> conversations *I* ever saw on FFL involved Robin,
> whose posts Barry claimed he never read and whom
> Barry persistently, viciously, and gratuitously
> attacked (and still attacks even in his absence).
> 
> And if I were asked what one thing would be most
> likely to facilitate more and better conversation
> on FFL, I'd have to say it would be Barry *not* 
> sticking around.

That might be true but after reading his post this morning I became aware that 
it was good reading and interesting - a little slip of time in his life relayed 
for us to read that was mostly free of finger pointing, false assertions and 
ego. If he could stick with this tone I would much prefer to read his stuff. 
So, he is capable of writing without inciting backlash and justified reaction. 
I'd just like to see it a bit (a lot) more often. The fact that it doesn't 
happen more is obviously a conscious choice Barry is making for whatever reason 
(I have my theories). But if he can keep this up then I look forward to his 
posts.

Your point about Barry and Robin is well taken however. 
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: thank you Raja Louis!

[Ann]

Rob ford is a drunken, bumbling buffoon but the city of Toronto is beautiful 
and interesting and full of culture - unlike it's loser mayor.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Toronto is such a livable city because everyone is laid back from smoking pot.
> 
> 
> Toronto Mayor Rob Ford smoked 'a lot' of marijuana
>  The acknowledgement by Ford, who is shown here in a May file photo, drew a 
> laugh from the press pack 
> Continue reading the main story 
> Related Stories
>   * Toronto's Ford denies 'crack video' 
>   * Trudeau 'smoked cannabis' while MP 
> Toronto Mayor Rob Ford has said he has smoked "a lot" of marijuana, as a 
> national debate on legalisation of the drug builds.
> Mr Ford, who leads Canada's largest city, became the fourth Canadian 
> politician in a week to acknowledge using the drug. 
> Separately, he has denied rumours he was caught on video smoking crack 
> cocaine and that he was addicted to it.
> In June, Liberal Party leader Justin Trudeau called for legalisation.
> Reporters confronted Mr Ford on Wednesday after Ontario 
> Premier Kathleen Wynne acknowledged she had smoked marijuana 35 years 
> ago, before entering politics.
> "Oh yeah, I won't deny that," Mr Ford said with a laugh when asked if he had 
> smoked marijuana. "I've smoked a lot of it."
> Last week, New Democratic Party leader Thomas Mulcair also 
> acknowledged using marijuana but would not say when, and Mr Trudeau said he 
> had smoked marijuana since becoming a member of parliament.
> Rumours of hard drug use by Mr Ford first circulated in March after two media 
> outlets said they had seen a video that purportedly 
> showed him smoking crack cocaine.
> The video has not been released publicly and has not been 
> verified. Mr Ford has said he does not smoke crack cocaine and is not an 
> addict.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "srijau@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 8:48 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] thank you Raja Louis!
>  
> 
> 
>   
> "Bogota, Colombia, improving the most: by 7.9 per cent since 2008, because of 
> an end to violence"
> http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/08/28/toronto_fourth_most_livable_city_in_world_economist.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buck now offers free seminars in Fairfield on the dangers of porn

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Lauren Hutton made my day a few years ago when I read this quote of hers in a 
> magazine: 60 is the new 30!

And death is, perhaps, rebirth!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________
>  From: Ann 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 10:44 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buck now offers free seminars in Fairfield on 
> the dangers of porn
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Even though she hides it behind the microphone pretty well, I am sorta 
> > curious if she is distantly related to David Letterman, who also has a gap 
> > between *his* two front teeth?
> 
> And don't forget one of the most unforgettable teeth gapers Lauren Hutton.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I'll bet she can touch her tongue to her nose, whaddya think? Here's
> > > Madonna from 1984 - everybody clapped - she takes off her veil at about
> > > a minute in.  Ha.
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXPMLTmpPpY
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bhairitu:
> > > > > Ever notice how fundamentalists and conservatives produce some of
> > > the
> > > > > flattest videos and movies?
> > > > >
> > > > Addressing the important issues!
> > > >
> > > > No, I haven't noticed that about conservative movies - but I have
> > > > noticed
> > > > how lurid and crass some of the liberal Hollywood TV music performers
> > > > have become, which has led to a general musical bankruptcy these days.
> > > >
> > > > Go figure.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > p-main-lead>
> > > >
> > > > "Most of the media backlash focused on Cyrus' crass opportunism,
> > > > which
> > > > stole the show from Lady Gaga, normally no slouch in the foot-stamping
> > > > look-at-me department. But the real scandal was how atrocious Cyrus'
> > > > performance was in artistic terms. She was clumsy, flat-footed and
> > > > cringingly unsexy, an effect heightened by her manic grin."
> > > >
> > > > 'Miley, Go Back to School'
> > > > Time Magazine:
> > > > http://tinyurl.com/o3f9pgc
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bet it was a nice party

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Me? With the skin infection guy? Nah, he wasn't interested. 
> 
> He was definitely sending mixed signals, though -- standing in my room, one 
> o'clock in the morning, and *insisting* on rolling up his shirt sleeves, to 
> show me his diseased dermis. Then he says, "I'm not contagious", and I was 
> tired, but I think he winked at me when he said it.  

I think it was his way of ensuring he would end up with a private room. He 
probably used that trick on all his new roommates!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
> >
> > When you said, "I was there, briefly", at first I thought you were
> > referring to the Florida celibate TM men enjoying the adulation of
> > female movement "groupies" drawn to the hard-to-getness. I was going to
> > ask you if you got lucky.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > I was there, briefly. The last big course I attended. The
> > administration and assignment of rooms for participants was
> > unprofessional, inefficient, and highly political - like some third
> > world backwater.
> > >
> > > After waiting five hours (5:30 PM to 10:30 PM) at the hotel, for my
> > reserved and paid for, single room, I was finally given a dorm room on
> > the other side of town, shared with some guy with a skin infection, who
> > woke me up at 1 AM, to move in. I left the course the next day.
> > >
> > > As for the demonstrators mentioned in this article, they must have
> > phoned it in, because nobody, including me, saw any of them.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ex-Followers Demonstrate Against
> > > > TM
> > > >
> > > > From "Grounding
> > > > the Guru," by Susan Gervasi, City Paper (Washington, DC), 7/13/90;
> > > > 14,16.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > More than 800 members of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Transcendental
> > > > Meditation, attending a week-long convention at Washington, DC's
> > > > Omni-Shoreham Hotel in June, faced the protest of members of TM-EX,
> > an informal
> > > > anti-TM group that educates the public about TM and offers "exit
> > counseling" to
> > > > those who want out of the movement.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > One TM-EX, former 15-year follower Curtis Mailloux, a 33-year-old
> > real estate
> > > > broker from Fairfax, VA, denounced the organization as a cultist
> > religion that
> > > > is exploitative, deceptive, and damaging. Mailloux is a 1979
> > graduate of
> > > > Maharishi International University, in Fairfield, IA, who in 1985
> > became head of
> > > > TM's Washington Center.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > TM-EXers do not dispute that TM can be an effective relaxation
> > technique, though
> > > > they say it is no better than similar relaxation regimens. The
> > danger in TM,
> > > > they say, comes when the discipline takes over the meditators'
> > > > lives.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > TM-EX member Joe Kelley said: "When we started we were told it was a
> > simple,
> > > > effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious
> > implications.
> > > > Initially, it was a 20 minute technique." But by taking advanced
> > residence
> > > > courses and other activities, "I was effectively made into a Hindu
> > believer,"
> > > > said Kelley.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Former TM teacher Diane Hendel, who has sued the organization for
> > fraud and
> > > > extortion, said the many bizarre mental experiences she had were
> > considered a
> > > > sign of spiritual superiority. "I saw little creatures with wings"
> > during
> > > > intensive meditation periods, she related. "They were like my pets.
> > They'd tell
> > > > me things." She was encouraged to believe that these winged beasties
> > were
> > > > "devas" -- Hindu spirits of nature. "I began not to be able to tell
> > who was a
> > > > person and who was a deva," she said. Hendel sought counseling,
> > eventually quit
> > > > meditating, and left the movement.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mailloux said involvement in the movement becomes "a prison of
> > specialness.
> > > > Especially as a leader in the movement, there's no way you can leave
> > this group
> > > > and be [regarded by other devotees as] OK or leave with dignity... I
> > was only
> > > > special as a nervous system which is a 'generator of purity,' not as
> > an
> > > > individual."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mailloux's "specialness"earned him three years in Florida with a
> > group of
> > > > celibate TM men, living monastically within the movement, where he
> > enjoyed the
> > > > adulation of female movement "groupies" drawn to his hard-to-getness
> > -- a common
> > > > ego-trip among the celibates, he said. Some movement women with low
> > self-esteem,
> > > > he added, tend to get fixated on these celibate men and get milked
> > for donations
> > > > to support them.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
>
> LOL - love #23 & #24
> 
> I guess I love cats more than dogs (does that make me an introvert? :-)),
> so I absolutely loved #7, that cute, little cat jumping all over that
> introverted dog :-)

I loved that picture of the lab in #9, classic. And if you can love a cat 
you're a better human than me; I think they are generally harder to love but a 
dog is a no brainer - or at least they gravitate to my heart easily.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:54 PM, emilymae.reyn wrote:
> 
> > Excellent Ravi.
> >
> > No. 23.  She goes to bed before her owner does
> > No. 24.  She maintains an existentially ferocious exterior to protect her
> > inner introvert
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 22 Signs Your Dog's An Introvert
> > > :-)
> > >
> > > http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/signs-your-dogs-an-introvert
> > > 
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > To subscribe, send a message to:
> > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Or go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: For Emily - and Bob & Ann

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  wrote:
>
> 22 Signs Your Dog's An Introvert
> :-)
>
> http://www.buzzfeed.com/chelseamarshall/signs-your-dogs-an-introvert
Thank you Ravi, that was sweet. Here is a picture of my special dog when
she was a puppy and looking a bit introverted.




>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buck now offers free seminars in Fairfield on the dangers of porn

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > I'll bet she can touch her tongue to her nose, whaddya think? Here's
> > Madonna from 1984 - everybody clapped - she takes off her veil at
> about
> > a minute in.  Ha.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXPMLTmpPpY
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > >
>
>
> The tube-lipped nectar bat has the longest tongue of any animal
> proportional to its body size. It's tongue is 3.3 inches long, 1.5
times
> longer than its entire body. http://i.imgur.com/32iLT.jpg
> Miley Cyrus' licker can probably
> touch her nose. No big deal. She needs to go for the Gene Simmons
look.
> http://youtu.be/pYEV-PA16xM
>
>   [http://i.imgur.com/32iLT.jpg]
Not so long but pretty sweet.


>
>
>
>
>
> > >
> > > Bhairitu:
> > > > Ever notice how fundamentalists and conservatives produce some
of
> > the
> > > > flattest videos and movies?
> > > >
> > > Addressing the important issues!
> > >
> > > No, I haven't noticed that about conservative movies - but I have
> > > noticed
> > > how lurid and crass some of the liberal Hollywood TV music
> performers
> > > have become, which has led to a general musical bankruptcy these
> days.
> > >
> > > Go figure.
> > >
> > >
> > > > p-main-lead>
> > >
> > > "Most of the media backlash focused on Cyrus' crass opportunism,
> > > which
> > > stole the show from Lady Gaga, normally no slouch in the
> foot-stamping
> > > look-at-me department. But the real scandal was how atrocious
Cyrus'
> > > performance was in artistic terms. She was clumsy, flat-footed and
> > > cringingly unsexy, an effect heightened by her manic grin."
> > >
> > > 'Miley, Go Back to School'
> > > Time Magazine:
> > > http://tinyurl.com/o3f9pgc
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Buck now offers free seminars in Fairfield on the dangers of porn

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Even though she hides it behind the microphone pretty well, I am sorta
curious if she is distantly related to David Letterman, who also has a
gap between *his* two front teeth?
And don't forget one of the most unforgettable teeth gapers Lauren
Hutton.





>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" emilymae.reyn@
wrote:
> >
> > I'll bet she can touch her tongue to her nose, whaddya think? Here's
> > Madonna from 1984 - everybody clapped - she takes off her veil at
about
> > a minute in.  Ha.
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXPMLTmpPpY
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Bhairitu:
> > > > Ever notice how fundamentalists and conservatives produce some
of
> > the
> > > > flattest videos and movies?
> > > >
> > > Addressing the important issues!
> > >
> > > No, I haven't noticed that about conservative movies - but I have
> > > noticed
> > > how lurid and crass some of the liberal Hollywood TV music
performers
> > > have become, which has led to a general musical bankruptcy these
days.
> > >
> > > Go figure.
> > >
> > >
> > > > p-main-lead>
> > >
> > > "Most of the media backlash focused on Cyrus' crass opportunism,
> > > which
> > > stole the show from Lady Gaga, normally no slouch in the
foot-stamping
> > > look-at-me department. But the real scandal was how atrocious
Cyrus'
> > > performance was in artistic terms. She was clumsy, flat-footed and
> > > cringingly unsexy, an effect heightened by her manic grin."
> > >
> > > 'Miley, Go Back to School'
> > > Time Magazine:
> > > http://tinyurl.com/o3f9pgc
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha Passing List

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Its cronies, meaning a friend or close associate generally used with
the connotation of an unsavory nature, like a mafia boss and his
cronies.
>
> Croonies I would assume would be those who croon, so Rick must have a
bunch of people who sing to him every day. I hope for his sake it isn't
the saccharine songs of the Mother Divine ladies, but maybe Rick likes
that kind-a music and singing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkmY3vKrR5s
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 12:07 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Purusha Passing List
>
>
>
> Â
>  What do you mean similar list  ? A "list" made by Rick Archer
that contains people that were, like the so-called "Purusha" list, of
ladies that were never on the MD-Programme ? A similar list designed for
reasons only known to Rick Archer himself and his croonies ?
>
>
> --- In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > Yes, the Flower of a generation.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@  wrote:
> > >
> > > The Moses Generation, gratitude to them. (with phraselogy apology
to POTUS
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > List of Purusha Men That Have Passed Away
> > > >
>
> Anybody got a similar list for women of the Mother Divine program to
remember?
>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It's actually four lists, and there are some duplicates.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
~
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 43 Purusha that passed away
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. Gunter Wiesenarter (Germany) died 13 July 2010 in the morning
at the age of 64 in Dalheim, Germany (born 13.03.1946).
> > > > 2. Heinrich Schock (Germany) died 14 January 2010 at home of
stomach  cancer.
> > > > 3. Ralph Ward - Lymphoma (USA) died in July 2010
> > > > 4. Chris Todd, USA, died end of December 2009 on heart failure
at age 59 in Fairfield, Iowa.
> > > > 5. Jim Keersemaker (USA) died 21 October 2009 at age 62, when he
walked alone in Gajoli without a buddy and fell into a ravine. A good
dog was with him, who protected his dead body all night from being eaten
by wild animals.
> > > > 6. Pranab Sarma (Germany / Bengal) died early  September 2009 in
Germany (prostate cancer).
> > > > 7. Eduardo Lozano (Spain) died on the full moon day  9 Febr 2009
around 7 p.m. in Spain.
> > > > 8. Scott Girard (USA) Iowa, died in 2009
> > > > 9. Billy Goodbar (USA) was found dead in his bathroom in
September 2008 at his farm in North Carolina, where he was taking care
of the Purusha cow herd.  Heart failure.
> > > > 10. Sam Jarvis (USA) died of old age in the  beginning of March
2008.
> > > > 11. Al Klapper (USA, in coma  after returning from India with a
lung infection) died around 10. March 2008.
> > > > 12. Reinhard Borowitz (Germany) died 16 Oct 2007, 19:30  at
Lothar Pircâs MAV clinic in Germany, where he stayed for his last
few  months.
> > > > 13. Bernt Metzner (Germany) died on 28 July 2007 at  noon 12:47
in Vlodrop in his room in space box 22 (lung  cancer).
> > > > 14. Hans Hinrichsen (Germany) died on 21 Sept. 2006 in Hamburg.
> > > > 15. Rudolf Knerer (Germany) died at home in Passau  2006.
> > > > 16. Heinz Wittke (Germany) died in India after a crash with his
motorcycle after several months in coma, 2006.
> > > > 17. Bob Liatunick (USA) died 2006 of a heart failure and liver
cancer at his home in USA after being in Uttarkashi for 6 years.
> > > > 18. Bernhard Wenzl (Germany) died in Bavaria 2005  (rabies).
> > > > 19. Garrison (Gary) Frantz died 2002 or 2003 in India of blood
poisoning after he had injured his colon with a self-administered 
basti.
> > > > 20. Hanspeter  Ritterstaedt  (Germany) died  ~1998.
> > > > 21. Bodo Bartusch, a German Purusha, who died maybe 1998.
> > > > 22. Vincent Eliaume, France, a white young Purusha who  was in
Wavre 1996, performed suicide in 1998 (after he left Purusha together 
with Jean-Paul Dufaure, who advocated Yoga Vasishtha for fast
enlightenment).
> > > > 23. Bobby Warron, a black Purusha from Martinique was known to
wash his face with water in the Vlodrop in-house swimming pool area all
the time. He was sent home after he had all his teeth drawn out, and he
committed suicide at home in Martinique.
> > > > 24. Dr. George Jansen (Holland) died maybe in the  beginning of
1993.
> > > > 25. Jos Verstege, a  Dutch Purusha of the Vedic Atom who died
after he went home, maybe  1990.
> > > > 26. Roberto Frangerini (Italy) had a fatal traffic accident on
the way to his mine in Brasil ~1990
> > > > 27. Dr. Eberhard Arnold, Purusha doctor, died  maybe 1988.
> > > > 28. Sten Sjoested aus Schweden burned himself in the basement in
Vlodrop 1987.
> > > > 29. Dr. José Maria Coderch, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> turqish delight, why so uptight?
> trees have a blight? world has a plight?
> Delay of a flight and no yummies to bite?
> No sleep in the night, dream fall from a height?
> Hair such a sight, bed head quite?!
>
> No buddies to fight or even feel fright,
> No posts to write with pinchy of spite?
> Left too unright, sunny too bright?
> Blood cells too white, boobies too slight?
> Pen without might, saber no light?
>
> Too much Coke, not enough Sprite?
> If words too trite and rhyming too shiteOne could go and yes, fly a
kite!





>
>
>
> 
>  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:04 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on
FFL lets return to but35 posts per week
>
>
>
> Â
> > Stop talking *at* us and talk *with* us.
>
> Whatever for?
>
> If the function of Internet discussion groups
> is to provide 'food for thought,' then FFL has
> become McDonalds.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> > Stop talking *at* us and talk *with* us.
> 
> Whatever for?

There it is stated in two words followed by a question mark. I get it now. And 
thank you.
> 
> If the function of Internet discussion groups 
> is to provide 'food for thought,' then FFL has 
> become McDonalds.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
>
>
> authfriend:
> > Buck, just a thought: Why don't you climb down off your
> > way-too-high horse and join in some of the conversations
> > here? Like, you know, an actual human being?
> >
> Here's an idea, Buck: let's ignore all the minions, Pips
> and MGs and their Judy-Barry-Robin banter.
>
> Then, the simple folk like Buck who have not read Nagel
> can talk about practical things, like duck hunting or the
> lambing or how to get to the dome on time for doing
> program.
>
> It's mostly just small talk of a personal nature anyway,
> name-calling and such. Everyone knows that almost all the
> main informants on FFL are big city slicker types who
> like to spout off a lot - probably they are pros in the
> media trade or work as computer geeks.
>
> > Show us how it's done, buddy. Stop talking *at* us
> > and talk *with* us.
> >
> Yeah, just because you're probably the only guy on
> this list that lives in Fairfield, Iowa, that still
> practices TM meditation, that goes to the dome every
> day - why would the minions, the Pips, or the MGs
> want to *talk* to you? You dumb fuck Buck. LoL!

>
> > > Friends, But the larger problem we have now is with
> > > the new Yahoo guidelines and our under-moderated ad
> > > hominem homid members threatening the life=blood of
> > > the whole group.
> > >
> > > > People obviously have way too many posts to fire
> > > > and burn here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Recent case in point, quote:  "I thought it was
> > > > > mean spirited, actually. Same old invectives
> > > > > hurled at someone: " Are you dumb, or dull, or
> > > > > nuts?""
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> Funny reply.
> 
> A 'smerican hugh?
> 
> Pro'ly you didn't want to live in the land of the "Once Free".

Being head nurse of the psycho  WT ER up here and having vowed to overlook the 
land of the World Teacher for eternity I am bound to stay in this sacred place 
called Victoria. I take my position and status seriously so I am bound to the 
land up here. You never know, one day the WT himself might return to claim his 
rightful status once again and for that we can all rejoice. Only this time you 
better be boned up on your first person ontology and forget the demon thing - 
so passe.

> However, I think chanuckistan's political system is
> even more f'd up than here - although we're fast turning
> into a crime ridden, illegal overwhelmed, drug house of
> horrors.

>From afar what I see is a country riddled with the wrong kind of patriotism 
>based on erroneous reasoning and reaction. While the US has a lot going for it 
>I can't handle all that Star Spangled Banner and in my 57 years on this planet 
>I have only spent about 20 years of that on your side of the border. 

And as far as politics goes, government is doomed to be run by humans therefore 
what do you expect? If you go "Down Under" you will have to listen to that 
accent though and that is almost worse than knowing you live in a country where 
"Duck Dynasty" was conceived of and broadcast. Lawd, help us.
> 
> If I didn't have two daughters needing me, I'd be better off
> down under.
> 
> Damn gotta go to work.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
> > >
> > > AnniePurna
> > >
> > > You got yer psycho-RN training from the World Teacher,
> > > so I know you already know how "those demons" subvert the
> > > innocents from using their free-will power-to-choose. Heh, Heh.
> > I like that image of "psycho-RN training from the World Teacher". It
> has
> > such a cool ring to it. Am I really that formidable? A Nurse Ratched?
> > OK, I'm game if you are. Now turn around, bend over and down with
> the...
> > well we could play nurse all day but I better answer the rest of your
> > post.
> > >
> > > FYI - A chamber has to be empty to receive the trust of the
> > > fitted bullet - but the heat only erupts as the round explodes.
> > Yea, yea, of course it's empty, you just fired all the bullets and now
> > it is hot, very  hot. I'm not sure you hit anything but it made a big
> > sound.
> > >
> > > Also FYI - My mom was a jumper. My parents bred
> > > quarter-horse and appaloosa. One of the apps was a
> > > cutting horse and a joy to ride. But that was never my
> > > main interest.
> > Whoa cowboy. Quarter horses are not known for their jumping prowess
> but
> > they can cut alright. You need to have some pretty good stickem to
> stay
> > on those babies. They turn and stop and wheel like nobody's business.
> I
> > couldn't stay on one of those even. You wouldn't have a chance. Appys
> > can be pretty to look at but they're also stubborn as mules for some
> > reason. They never have decent tails either, no hair.
> > >
> > > BTW - Enjoy your North American domicile while you can - after
> > > all the 'smericans you chanuckistani's hate are the sole
> > > protectors of your sweet hyperborean paradise.
> > Whoa again sweet cheeks. I'm American.
> > >
> > > Just remember that death is stalking us all, even when we're
> > > acting like it isn't so.
> > Well, being the Woody Allenish hypochondriac that I am I am infinitely
> > aware of death and disease every waking moment. I live death baby,
> > believe me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Annie Gottagun
> > > >
> > > > Oh empty chamber, all those bullets you keep expelling and now
> > you're
> > > smoking hot.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for finally clarifying it all.
> > > > > So glad you finally showed what you really
> > > > > learned in secret from the World Teacher.
> > > >
> > > > "in secret"?
> > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obombie wants his war

[Ann]

Authfriend, your beautiful mind is wasted on her.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > dear Bhairitu, here's my confession:
> 
> This isn't a "confession," Share. There's no need to
> exalt yourself here.
> 
> > all this recent talk about West Wing had me remembering
> > various bits of various episodes. When I read Doc's comments,
> > I remembered an episode when the president's people took a
> > discrete
> 
> The word is "discreet," not "discrete."
> 
> > poll to find out how the nation would feel about a certain
> > issue.
> 
> You still don't understand what was wrong with your
> hypothetical poll on Syria, do you? (I mean, aside
> from the fact that the administration would be highly
> unlikely to bomb Syria in this present situation on
> the basis of the results of a poll.) Now, *that* would
> be a confession.
> 
> > I thought Doc asked some good questions and that was the
> > first response that came to my mind, that they took a poll.
> 
> He did ask a good question, but it was more rhetorical
> than information oriented. It made the point that there
> *should* have been outrage months ago about the shelling
> of apartment buildings. And your hypothetical poll was 
> in no way a response to that point.
> 
> > I think Xeno is right, I do tend to be more intuitive than
> > linear in my thinking. But mainly I tend to make connections.
> 
> "Intuitive" sounds better than "sloppy." You just make any
> old connection that crosses your mind in order to have
> something to say, Share. You don't bother to think things
> through, so your connections rarely add value.
> 
> 
> 
> > Anyway, thanks for your intelligent comments and article.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
>
> Friends, But the larger problem we have now is with the new Yahoo
guidelines and our under-moderated ad hominem homid members threatening
the life=blood of the whole group.






>
> >
> > People obviously have way too many posts to fire and burn here.
> > >
> > > Recent case in point, quote:  "I thought it was mean spirited,
actually. Same old invectives hurled at someone:
> > > " Are you dumb, or dull, or nuts?""
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Yahoo! Groups give Yahoo! users a place to meet, interact,
and share ideas with each other. .. Yahoo! sets out the terms and
conditions of your use ..  some of the key things to remember are:
> > > > > 1. You may not harass, abuse, threaten, or advocate violence"
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yep, personal by its nature the use the ad hominem is abuse on
all these levels.
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Friends;
> > > > > > But we got a larger problem in want of a better decorum for
FFL:  Yes, by the virtue of the new Yahoo-groups guidelines being placed
over us we should directly outlaw the ad hominem and name-calling forms
of argument as lower than the lowest and directly banish those who use
them here as the fundamental and great threat to our whole way of life
here on a Yahoo-group that they are.
> > > > > > Kindly,
> > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Yep these people have taken toll the life spark of
FairfieldLife here on Yahoo-groups with the Ad hominems.   Time comes
now to do with serious moderation or surely let the list die entirely. 
Seems a time has come for action one way or the other.  Radical action. 
Resuscitation or it dies.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is
vitriol
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are
the low forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil
society and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse.  Yes, by stark
contrast certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time
when the post count was limited to 35 per week.  This list cries out for
a limit to abuse and a strong hand of moderation.  A strict speed limit
of 35 posts per week.
> > > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In a message dated 08/23/13 16:55:50 Eastern Daylight
Time, dhamiltony2k5@ writes:
> > > > > > > > > Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope
is clearly failing.  The lowest form of writing and argument evidently
dominates FFL with their diluting flood of the post-count of FFL.  As an
elder of the FFL community here I implore you Rick, please save our FFL
from the lowest form of argument on FFL, the Ad hominem .  These
people's abuse of the list and community here with the Ad hominem is too
much.  Something radical, something different needs to be done to save
FFL as a spiritual and free place.
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > -Buck
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to:
> > > > > > > > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Or go to:
> > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> > > > > > > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> AnniePurna
>
> You got yer psycho-RN training from the World Teacher,
> so I know you already know how "those demons" subvert the
> innocents from using their free-will power-to-choose. Heh, Heh.
I like that image of "psycho-RN training from the World Teacher". It has
such a cool ring to it. Am I really that formidable? A Nurse Ratched?
OK, I'm game if you are. Now turn around, bend over and down with the...
well we could play nurse all day but I better answer the rest of your
post.
>
> FYI - A chamber has to be empty to receive the trust of the
> fitted bullet - but the heat only erupts as the round explodes.
Yea, yea, of course it's empty, you just fired all the bullets and now
it is hot, very  hot. I'm not sure you hit anything but it made a big
sound.
>
> Also FYI - My mom was a jumper. My parents bred
> quarter-horse and appaloosa. One of the apps was a
> cutting horse and a joy to ride. But that was never my
> main interest.
Whoa cowboy. Quarter horses are not known for their jumping prowess but
they can cut alright. You need to have some pretty good stickem to stay
on those babies. They turn and stop and wheel like nobody's business. I
couldn't stay on one of those even. You wouldn't have a chance. Appys
can be pretty to look at but they're also stubborn as mules for some
reason. They never have decent tails either, no hair.
>
> BTW - Enjoy your North American domicile while you can - after
> all the 'smericans you chanuckistani's hate are the sole
> protectors of your sweet hyperborean paradise.
Whoa again sweet cheeks. I'm American.
>
> Just remember that death is stalking us all, even when we're
> acting like it isn't so.
Well, being the Woody Allenish hypochondriac that I am I am infinitely
aware of death and disease every waking moment. I live death baby,
believe me.
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Annie Gottagun
> >
> > Oh empty chamber, all those bullets you keep expelling and now
you're
> smoking hot.
> > >
> > > Thanks for finally clarifying it all.
> > > So glad you finally showed what you really
> > > learned in secret from the World Teacher.
> >
> > "in secret"?
> >
> > > You too are now a discerner of intent and
> > > the disguised motivations of the demons.
> >
> > Are you a demon?! Yoiks and all this time I mistook you for this
kinda
> bitter guy without the sweetness but a man nevertheless.
> >
> > > Gotta a circle of disciples yet?
> >
> > Well, not a circle exactly, more like a trapezoidal figure. I'm not
> sure they're disciples exactly, they come and ride with me sometimes
or
> help me pick apples in the orchard. Do you ever pick apples empty
> chamber/smoking gun? We have a rather large, abandoned orchard with
> pears and figs and plums (both golden and purple) blackberries, holly,
> peaches, cherries and the deer and rats and birds love to eat there.
> This is where I and my would-be disciples sometimes pick apples for
the
> horses which we gather in wheelbarrows; there are just so many apples
> and these are many types of heritage apples grafted onto other apples
> trees by the previous property owner. Oh, and we have one horse buried
> in that orchard. An old jumper who deserved to be placed in the ground
> underneath the fruit trees so that he didn't have to be carted off and
> thrown into a pit at the local dump. He wasn't my horse but he earned
> the privilege to come and find a quiet resting spot after a life of
> racing for 8 years and jumping for another 12. My old mare of 29 years
> will be buried in that orchard next to him. Her name is Annapurna. You
> might like her; she is wise and gentle and beautiful.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Raviola
> > > > >
> > > > > Yer like a teenage boy high on meth.
> > > > > Stop sounding like a fool ... fool.
> > > >
> > > > EB, you are always scolding someone. Now you're sounding like
> Buck, at
> > > least in your intention to silence.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> Annie Gottagun

Oh empty chamber, all those bullets you keep expelling and now you're smoking 
hot.
> 
> Thanks for finally clarifying it all.
> So glad you finally showed what you really
> learned in secret from the World Teacher.

"in secret"?

> You too are now a discerner of intent and
> the disguised motivations of the demons.

Are you a demon?! Yoiks and all this time I mistook you for this kinda bitter 
guy without the sweetness but a man nevertheless.

> Gotta a circle of disciples yet?

Well, not a circle exactly, more like a trapezoidal figure. I'm not sure 
they're disciples exactly, they come and ride with me sometimes or help me pick 
apples in the orchard. Do you ever pick apples empty chamber/smoking gun? We 
have a rather large, abandoned orchard with pears and figs and plums (both 
golden and purple) blackberries, holly, peaches, cherries and the deer and rats 
and birds love to eat there. This is where I and my would-be disciples 
sometimes pick apples for the horses which we gather in wheelbarrows; there are 
just so many apples and these are many types of heritage apples grafted onto 
other apples trees by the previous property owner. Oh, and we have one horse 
buried in that orchard. An old jumper who deserved to be placed in the ground 
underneath the fruit trees so that he didn't have to be carted off and thrown 
into a pit at the local dump. He wasn't my horse but he earned the privilege to 
come and find a quiet resting spot after a life of racing for 8 years and 
jumping for another 12. My old mare of 29 years will be buried in that orchard 
next to him. Her name is Annapurna. You might like her; she is wise and gentle 
and beautiful.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" emptybill@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Raviola
> > >
> > > Yer like a teenage boy high on meth.
> > > Stop sounding like a fool ... fool.
> >
> > EB, you are always scolding someone. Now you're sounding like Buck, at
> least in your intention to silence.
>

[FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post]

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
>
> Ann, maybe we should sleep together? Cheers, Emily.  

Your place or mine?
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Glad to see you have decided to stop sleeping with Barry Share - that 
> > > casual relationship really went sideways, no?  Best not to try and curry 
> > > favor and support with one such as Barry - stick with Steve and Jason, 
> > > for two.  
> > 
> > Thanks Em, I think I'm done. You are amazing, you know what I'm talkin' 
> > about, woman. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ann, the reality upon which you need to get a grip is that turq and I 
> > > > have the merest of online relationships. Why are you flapping on about 
> > > > abusive boyfriends, etc? It's simply that he and his style triggers you 
> > > > and neither triggers me anymore. End of story.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: Ann 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:01 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A 
> > > > Real Fairfield Life Post]
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ann, as long as I've been on FFL, I've found turq clear about his 
> > > > > likes and dislikes, decided in his opinions. Actually in this latter 
> > > > > regard, I think you and Judy and turq are quite similar. You're more 
> > > > > PC about it than they are. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > BTW, since this exchange is about posts to me, then it is really up 
> > > > > to me to say which posts I found the worst. And definitely it was not 
> > > > > that post from turq. I have found other posts to be much worse. And 
> > > > > it could be that my skin has gotten thicker.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also I do not find it demeaning to myself to see both what I like and 
> > > > > what I don't like in people and to express both. But I get that for 
> > > > > some people this seems like not a good quality.
> > > > 
> > > > I wrote what I wrote in my post below as an attempt (silly me) to open 
> > > > your eyes to something. You refuse or are unable to see it. That is 
> > > > fine. Barry is never going to change but I had these naive ideas that 
> > > > perhaps I could offer you something in the way of observation. You are 
> > > > like the girlfriend who keeps returning to the guy who beats her and 
> > > > makes excuses for him. That is your business and your prerogative. I 
> > > > foolishly re-opened this subject with you but you can't 'go there' and 
> > > > face certain aspects of what happened and that's fine because it is you 
> > > > and not me. Choose to surround yourself with abusers Share because I 
> > > > guess that is something you feel you deserve, or maybe you're a 
> > > > masochist. EIther way, you're well on the road to making your dreams 
> > > > come true.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: Ann 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:47 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: 
> > > > > A Real Fairfield Life Post]
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ann, you're just being silly here.
> > > > > 
> > > > > That's me, "Ann Silly Woelfle Bater".
> > > > > 
> > > > > >What would you sugg

[FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post]

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
>
> Glad to see you have decided to stop sleeping with Barry Share - that casual 
> relationship really went sideways, no?  Best not to try and curry favor and 
> support with one such as Barry - stick with Steve and Jason, for two.  

Thanks Em, I think I'm done. You are amazing, you know what I'm talkin' about, 
woman. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Ann, the reality upon which you need to get a grip is that turq and I have 
> > the merest of online relationships. Why are you flapping on about abusive 
> > boyfriends, etc? It's simply that he and his style triggers you and neither 
> > triggers me anymore. End of story.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Ann 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 9:01 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A 
> > Real Fairfield Life Post]
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Ann, as long as I've been on FFL, I've found turq clear about his likes 
> > > and dislikes, decided in his opinions. Actually in this latter regard, I 
> > > think you and Judy and turq are quite similar. You're more PC about it 
> > > than they are. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > BTW, since this exchange is about posts to me, then it is really up to me 
> > > to say which posts I found the worst. And definitely it was not that post 
> > > from turq. I have found other posts to be much worse. And it could be 
> > > that my skin has gotten thicker.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Also I do not find it demeaning to myself to see both what I like and 
> > > what I don't like in people and to express both. But I get that for some 
> > > people this seems like not a good quality.
> > 
> > I wrote what I wrote in my post below as an attempt (silly me) to open your 
> > eyes to something. You refuse or are unable to see it. That is fine. Barry 
> > is never going to change but I had these naive ideas that perhaps I could 
> > offer you something in the way of observation. You are like the girlfriend 
> > who keeps returning to the guy who beats her and makes excuses for him. 
> > That is your business and your prerogative. I foolishly re-opened this 
> > subject with you but you can't 'go there' and face certain aspects of what 
> > happened and that's fine because it is you and not me. Choose to surround 
> > yourself with abusers Share because I guess that is something you feel you 
> > deserve, or maybe you're a masochist. EIther way, you're well on the road 
> > to making your dreams come true.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Ann 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:47 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A 
> > > Real Fairfield Life Post]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ann, you're just being silly here.
> > > 
> > > That's me, "Ann Silly Woelfle Bater".
> > > 
> > > >What would you suggest? That I call the police on turq?!
> > > 
> > > I have stopped seriously suggesting things to you a while ago Share. But 
> > > as a last ditch attempt I would conjecture that you are choosing to 
> > > ignore the worst post that anyone has directed your way, and frankly, I 
> > > can understand why as whatever you could say to Barry won't make a bit of 
> > > difference to him although it might make a difference for you and you are 
> > > the more important consideration, not BW. 
> > > 
> > > >A lot worse IMO has been delivered to me on FFL.
> > > 
> > > No there hasn't.
> > > 
> > > >Different people are bothered by different forms and content of attacks. 
> > > >I think I'm less bothered by turq because his attacks are straight 
> > > >forward. Whereas I'm very triggered by what I call snide and sly attacks.
> > > 
> > > Interesting. However, "attacks" aside, the other odious part of his post 
> &g

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's yer feel-good good-morning post

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Jason, definitely points for originality!

I thought it was mean spirited, actually. Same old invectives hurled at someone:
 " Are you dumb, or dull, or nuts?"
Plus he has completely missed the point, as Emily pointed out. My post he was 
referring to was playing off your comment about you and Barry " shopping for a 
ring." Get it now?

> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Jason 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 8:56 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Here's yer feel-good good-morning post
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> > 
> > ---  "sharelong60"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Never saw Pushing Daisies but I loved her in West Wing as the feisty, 
> > > funny, sharp consultant who groomed that curmudgeony guy into taking over 
> > > the PR job. At that point in the series she was a much needed and very 
> > > welcome breath of fresh air.
> > > PS to turq so Ann doesn't get too nervous: turq, even though we both like 
> > > Kristen Chenoweth, I don't think it means we're soul mates or anything so 
> > > let's hold off on the shopping for a ring, ok? (-: 
> > >
> > >
> ---  "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > Not so fast, this fact could change everything. I'll make a few catering 
> > calls and find a wedding planner. I am just so THRILLED! And to think, I 
> > had given up hope of a reconciliation. Life is truly miraculous. 
> > 
> 
> What's wrong with you, Ann? !!
> 
> Are you dumb, or dull, or nuts?
> 
> Robin acted like a "grandma" trying to tell something to her 
> "granddaughter" (Share).  Share got irritated just as a 
> small baby would.
> 
> Why are you holding this grudge against Share?
> 
> > > 
> > > ---  turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sorry to interrupt all the backslapping and "You're even meaner than
> > > > I am" and "Boy, you sure 'got' ___ this time" for another subject, but
> > > > even I enjoyed this instance of randomicity, so I'm passing it along:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > <http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2013/08/26/33430/riverside-voice-\
> > > > teacher-s-show-stopping-duet-with/> 
> > > > <http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2013/08/26/33430/riverside-voice-\
> > > > teacher-s-show-stopping-duet-with/>
> > > > http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2013/08/26/33430/riverside-voice-t\
> > > > eacher-s-show-stopping-duet-with/
> > > > <http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2013/08/26/33430/riverside-voice-\
> > > > teacher-s-show-stopping-duet-with/>
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not normally a fan of musical theater, but I like Kristin Chenoweth
> > > > because she was just so cute in the short-lived "Pushing Daisies," which
> > > > was edited by one of our at-the-time FFL members.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post]

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Ann, as long as I've been on FFL, I've found turq clear about his likes and 
> dislikes, decided in his opinions. Actually in this latter regard, I think 
> you and Judy and turq are quite similar. You're more PC about it than they 
> are. 
> 
> 
> BTW, since this exchange is about posts to me, then it is really up to me to 
> say which posts I found the worst. And definitely it was not that post from 
> turq. I have found other posts to be much worse. And it could be that my skin 
> has gotten thicker.
> 
> 
> Also I do not find it demeaning to myself to see both what I like and what I 
> don't like in people and to express both. But I get that for some people this 
> seems like not a good quality.

I wrote what I wrote in my post below as an attempt (silly me) to open your 
eyes to something. You refuse or are unable to see it. That is fine. Barry is 
never going to change but I had these naive ideas that perhaps I could offer 
you something in the way of observation. You are like the girlfriend who keeps 
returning to the guy who beats her and makes excuses for him. That is your 
business and your prerogative. I foolishly re-opened this subject with you but 
you can't 'go there' and face certain aspects of what happened and that's fine 
because it is you and not me. Choose to surround yourself with abusers Share 
because I guess that is something you feel you deserve, or maybe you're a 
masochist. EIther way, you're well on the road to making your dreams come true.
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ann 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 4:47 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real 
> Fairfield Life Post]
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Ann, you're just being silly here.
> 
> That's me, "Ann Silly Woelfle Bater".
> 
> >What would you suggest? That I call the police on turq?!
> 
> I have stopped seriously suggesting things to you a while ago Share. But as a 
> last ditch attempt I would conjecture that you are choosing to ignore the 
> worst post that anyone has directed your way, and frankly, I can understand 
> why as whatever you could say to Barry won't make a bit of difference to him 
> although it might make a difference for you and you are the more important 
> consideration, not BW. 
> 
> >A lot worse IMO has been delivered to me on FFL.
> 
> No there hasn't.
> 
> >Different people are bothered by different forms and content of attacks. I 
> >think I'm less bothered by turq because his attacks are straight forward. 
> >Whereas I'm very triggered by what I call snide and sly attacks.
> 
> Interesting. However, "attacks" aside, the other odious part of his post to 
> you was the fact that it made it so clear how he had felt about you all along 
> and this type of clarity in a moment when he let it all hang out there for 
> everyone to see in black and white was horrendous because the lie that was 
> his 'relationship' with you was exposed. And even now you attempt to engage 
> him in banter as if nothing ever happened. That, to me, is demeaning to 
> yourself and I don't like to see it.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Ann 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:35 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A 
> > Real Fairfield Life Post]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Dr D, what is going on here? Barry is not responsible for Freddie's 
> > > behavior. Get a grip.
> > 
> > No Susan, Barry is not responsible for Fred's behaviour but Barry's 
> > behaviour is bad enough and he doesn't take responsibility for that either. 
> > You appear to be willing to take that on for him, however. I don't know 
> > what 's worse - Share putting up with his abuse of her or you supporting 
> > him.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We were all born in

[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Still being funny, Ann. Anyone who reads Susan's posts gets that she's the 
> last thing from a minion or a pip or a MG.

Still lacking a sense of humour, Share.

> 
> 
> 
> 
> ____
>  From: Ann 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 9:09 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets 
> return ..YES!
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > > > > Obviously, to qualify as a Pip or a MG you need to 
> > > > > be a minion; 
> > > > >
> > > > Oh, I get it - minion, then Pip, then MG.
> > > > 
> > > > > try and keep up Richard.
> > > > >
> > > > Yeah, well I'm trying to do the work, Bob. 
> > > > 
> > > > My comment about the night life in Rishikesh TTC was 
> > > > right on topic; I posted all about the duck hunters 
> > > > and the skin headed neo-nazis; I insinuated that Turq 
> > > > was a yuppie and that Barry2 was a geek; I ignored Judy, 
> > > > Ann, Share, Emily, and that other woman, if she is one. 
> > > > 
> > Oba:
> > > Are you talking about Susan?
> > >
> > Maybe, is she a Pip, a MG, or a minion?
> 
> I think she may be Barry's minion.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > What do I have to say - that somebody has a cob up 
> > > > their ass? I tried that and some guy said it was smutty. 
> > > > 
> > > > Go figure.
> > > > 
> > > > > > > I love you. You're hilarious. Where can I apply to
> > > > > > > become a Pip?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Sure, but what if you want to be one of the minions?
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's yer feel-good good-morning post

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sharelong60"  wrote:
>
> Never saw Pushing Daisies but I loved her in West Wing as the feisty, funny, 
> sharp consultant who groomed that curmudgeony guy into taking over the PR 
> job. At that point in the series she was a much needed and very welcome 
> breath of fresh air.
> PS to turq so Ann doesn't get too nervous: turq, even though we both like 
> Kristen Chenoweth, I don't think it means we're soul mates or anything so 
> let's hold off on the shopping for a ring, ok? (-: 

Not so fast, this fact could change everything. I'll make a few catering calls 
and find a wedding planner. I am just so THRILLED! And to think, I had given up 
hope of a reconciliation. Life is truly miraculous. 

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to interrupt all the backslapping and "You're even meaner than
> > I am" and "Boy, you sure 'got' ___ this time" for another subject, but
> > even I enjoyed this instance of randomicity, so I'm passing it along:
> > 
> >  
> > <http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2013/08/26/33430/riverside-voice-\
> > teacher-s-show-stopping-duet-with/> 
> > <http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2013/08/26/33430/riverside-voice-\
> > teacher-s-show-stopping-duet-with/>
> > http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2013/08/26/33430/riverside-voice-t\
> > eacher-s-show-stopping-duet-with/
> > <http://www.scpr.org/programs/take-two/2013/08/26/33430/riverside-voice-\
> > teacher-s-show-stopping-duet-with/>
> > 
> > I'm not normally a fan of musical theater, but I like Kristin Chenoweth
> > because she was just so cute in the short-lived "Pushing Daisies," which
> > was edited by one of our at-the-time FFL members.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: If You Have a Minute (6 actually)

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn"  wrote:
>
> My Jack Russell barked in appreciation as well - seriously - and then the cat 
> jumped up on my lap to watch and purr.  So sweet.

Ah, my day is complete. Bob and Emily and two Jack Russells liked it. I now bid 
you all good night.

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> >
> > Ann, this was beautiful, my Jack Russell and I loved it.
> > 
> > Buck, I hope you realize this is what you're up against; give it up Bro.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.wimp.com/rescueddog/ <http://www.wimp.com/rescueddog/>
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> , "bobpriced" bobpriced@ wrote:
> > >
> > > As I'm sure he knows, I'm a huge fan of Turq's posts; so I'm
> wondering
> > > if anyone
> > > would be kind enough to translate this one for me, particularly the
> last
> > > paragraph.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That is interesting - I don't understand why you deplore
> > > > > the act because of who he did it with? You know the
> > > > > women and don't like them or what?
> > > >
> > > > I'm going to steer your thread in a slightly different
> > > > direction, if you don't mind. For me, one of the most
> > > > puzzling things about the whole spiritual-teachers-
> > > > boning-their-students thang is that often I really,
> > > > really don't "get" the attraction, from the woman's
> > > > side.
> > > >
> > > > Call me guilty of being a lifelong straight guy, but
> > > > I simply don't understand women who would find Maharishi
> > > > Mahesh Yogi sexually *attractive* enough to want to have
> > > > sex with him. Charismatic, maybe, depending on your stan-
> > > > dards for that concept. The next thing to god in their
> > > > minds, possibly.
> > > >
> > > > But sexually attractive? I just don't get it.
> > > >
> > > > With some *other* teachers, of both sexes, I can definitely
> > > > see them being considered sexually attractive by their
> > > > students. I mean, like all of her male followers, I sprung
> > > > a woodie for Gangaji when I met her. :-) And I've certainly
> > > > met male spiritual teachers who would be swooned over even
> > > > by women who had no idea they were spiritual teachers,
> > > > because they were hot!
> > > >
> > > > But I honestly don't get it with Maharishi. I can see many
> > > > reasons for a woman devotee wanting to have sex with him,
> > > > most of them closely tied to the word "devotee," but I
> > > > find it difficult to imagine many of them wanting to
> > > > bone him because he was...uh...just so bonable.
> >
> > As far as I can tell Barry is a bit like a dog, worrying over bones. I
> think he means something like stewing bones or maybe it's Marylebones
> but for sure they include thigh bones. Whatever it is I believe he is
> fairly devoted to them - including Milk Bones. Honestly, the old dog
> just can't seem to help himself from digging up old bones or perhaps
> he's just pining over lost bones or bones that never materialized at
> all. Yes, I think I may have cracked the mystery here of the last
> paragraph, at least it feels like I might have; I can feel it in my
> bones.
> 
> ***Ann, I think you nailed it here, it's in his bones; he appears to
> work on the premise that a bone in his hand is worth two...(I don't
> think I'll
> finish that one in case---in the unlikely event---Buck wins and
> implements his policies retroactively).  I do wonder wonder wonder what
> type of resentment
> he's nurturing to be sitting in the south of France---so close to light
> and color that inspired Van Gogh and Renoir---and the all he can think
> are speculations about Maharishi's sex life; that's one hell of a
> resentment. If there is a hell, it seems to me, it would have to have
> something to do with
> being stuck on instant replay.

Yes, I think France is wasted on the likes of the bone man. I don't remember 
any paintings by Renoir or Van Gogh that featured any sorts of bones and 
certainly not any woodies. But I have not given up the hope that sooner or 
later Barry might manage a post about lily pads or haystacks.
> 
> 
> 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: If You Have a Minute (6 actually)

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> http://www.wimp.com/rescueddog/

I thought I posted this in rich-text editor so the link would be clickable but 
apparently something went wrong. Still, worth the viewing if you think dogs 
deserve a little love and respect. Takes a little longer to cut and paste it 
though, sorry.
>

[FairfieldLife] If You Have a Minute (6 actually)

[Ann]

http://www.wimp.com/rescueddog/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> Friends;
> But we got a larger problem in want of a better decorum for FFL:  Yes, by the 
> virtue of the new Yahoo-groups guidelines being placed over us we should 
> directly outlaw the ad hominem and name-calling forms of argument as lower 
> than the lowest and directly banish those who use them here as the 
> fundamental and great threat to our whole way of life here on a Yahoo-group 
> that they are. 
> Kindly,
> -Buck 

Buck,
I think your horse is loose in the neighborhood. Your barn is on fire and 
someone is joy riding in your tractor around the town square. Hopefully that 
should take you about a week to rectify; maybe then we'll get some peace and 
quiet around here.

> 
> > 
> >  Yep these people have taken toll the life spark of FairfieldLife here on 
> > Yahoo-groups with the Ad hominems.   Time comes now to do with serious 
> > moderation or surely let the list die entirely.  Seems a time has come for 
> > action one way or the other.  Radical action.  Resuscitation or it dies.
> > 
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is vitriol 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low forms of 
> > > argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society and on 
> > > all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse.  Yes, by stark contrast 
> > > certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the 
> > > post count was limited to 35 per week.  This list cries out for a limit 
> > > to abuse and a strong hand of moderation.  A strict speed limit of 35 
> > > posts per week.
> > > -Buck
> > >  
> > > > 
> > > > In a message dated 08/23/13 16:55:50 Eastern Daylight Time, 
> > > > dhamiltony2k5@ writes:
> > > > Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly 
> > > > failing.  The lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates 
> > > > FFL with their diluting flood of the post-count of FFL.  As an elder of 
> > > > the FFL community here I implore you Rick, please save our FFL from the 
> > > > lowest form of argument on FFL, the Ad hominem .  These people's abuse 
> > > > of the list and community here with the Ad hominem is too much.  
> > > > Something radical, something different needs to be done to save FFL as 
> > > > a spiritual and free place. 
> > > > Sincerely, 
> > > > -Buck   
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: 
> > > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > 
> > > > Or go to: 
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ 
> > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eliminating the Ad hominem Post-count on FFL lets return to but35 posts per week

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> 
> Quit complaining. You sound like an
> old woman with excess stomach acid.

Hey, how about an old man with excess stomach acid? 

Actually, Buck's shtick is getting a bit old and particularly tedious for a 
number of reasons. Part of me wants to believe he's putting us on and part of 
me is terribly afraid he's serious. Whatever it is I have to agree with you on 
this one.
> 
> Just start your own forum so you can
> rule it as you choose.
> 
> 
> Not willing? Then shut the fuck up.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > Friends;
> > But we got a larger problem in want of a better decorum for FFL:  Yes,
> by the virtue of the new Yahoo-groups guidelines being placed over us we
> should directly outlaw the ad hominem and name-calling forms of argument
> as lower than the lowest and directly banish those who use them here as
> the fundamental and great threat to our whole way of life here on a
> Yahoo-group that they are.
> > Kindly,
> > -Buck
> >
> > >
> > >  Yep these people have taken toll the life spark of FairfieldLife
> here on Yahoo-groups with the Ad hominems.   Time comes now to do with
> serious moderation or surely let the list die entirely.  Seems a time
> has come for action one way or the other.  Radical action. 
> Resuscitation or it dies.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wleed3  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am leaving if the postings are not reduced much is vitriol
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yep, the name-calling and the ad hominem certainly are the low
> forms of argument here and should certainly be outlawed in civil society
> and on all Yahoo groups as reprehensible abuse.  Yes, by stark contrast
> certainly the best writing and exchange on FFL was in a time when the
> post count was limited to 35 per week.  This list cries out for a limit
> to abuse and a strong hand of moderation.  A strict speed limit of 35
> posts per week.
> > > > -Buck
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 08/23/13 16:55:50 Eastern Daylight Time,
> dhamiltony2k5@ writes:
> > > > > Dear Rick, the post-count experiment as a noble hope is clearly
> failing.  The lowest form of writing and argument evidently dominates
> FFL with their diluting flood of the post-count of FFL.  As an elder of
> the FFL community here I implore you Rick, please save our FFL from the
> lowest form of argument on FFL, the Ad hominem .  These people's abuse
> of the list and community here with the Ad hominem is too much. 
> Something radical, something different needs to be done to save FFL as a
> spiritual and free place.
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > -Buck
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > To subscribe, send a message to:
> > > > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Or go to:
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> > > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world....

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> Raviola
> 
> Yer like a teenage boy high on meth.
> Stop sounding like a fool ... fool.

EB, you are always scolding someone. Now you're sounding like Buck, at least in 
your intention to silence.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> >
> > Is this what Grandpa Xeno had to say in his defense? Why can't he say
> so himself? Why does he need you to speak on his behalf?
> >
> > What do the doctors say - that it's acceptable behavior as long as the
> object of the deranged rant not a family member? It's very frustrating,
> there seems to be no end in sight to Grandpa's pathological behavior.
> >
> > P.S may be you were joking but Judy's not my aunt - YOU are, unless
> you are singing Grandpa tune? OMG - I hope not.
> >
> >
> > On Aug 26, 2013, at 4:57 AM, "sharelong60" sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
> > > but but but Ravi, Xeno wrote this in reply to your aunt Judy!
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"
> chivukula.ravi@ wrote:
> > >>
> > >> OMFG get a clue, next time please keep your intellectual vomit to
> > >> yourselves no one other than my deluded Aunt Share even pays
> attention
> > >> to your bullshit.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Do you realize Grandpa Xeno how psychopathically deranged your
> > >> experiences
> > >>> sound? You are too alienated emotionally, psychologically - god I
> felt
> > >> so
> > >>> sick reading your vomit.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius <
> > >>> anartaxius@ wrote:
> > >>>
> >  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" authfriend@
> > >> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"
> >  wrote:
> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Over the years I've been on this forum, I have gradually
> ceased
> > >> to
> >  believe that there is a universally applicable scheme for the
> > >> development
> >  of enlightenment, such that if someone doesn't have *this*
> > >> experience or
> >  does have *that* experience, it means they are (or are not)
> > >> enlightened.
> > >>
> > >>> Some experiences (or lack of same) may be more common than
> > >> others, but
> >  you can't make absolute, across-the-board "rules" that apply to
> all
> >  individuals without exception, any more than you can do it with
> the
> >  experience of falling in love. The uniqueness of first-person
> > >> ontology
> >  remains just that.
> > >>
> > >>> My opinion, anyway.
> > >>
> > >>> [to Dr Dumbass] Not what I meant by "scheme." I meant
> something
> > >> like
> >  Maharishi's "Seven States of Consciousness"--an outline, format,
> a
> >  schedule, a list of "symptoms."
> > >>
> > >> First-person ontology is the thing that enlightenment gets rid
> > >> of,
> > >
> > > I question this and every other statement you've made
> > > in this post that you apply across the board, as opposed
> > > to describing your own experience.
> > 
> >  I am describing my own experience. That is all I have. There is
> just
> >  experience. Not experiences, with an 's', but experience,
> singular.
> >  Experience*s* are like sub directories or folders on a computer.
> It
> > >> is not
> >  uncommon these days, others on this forum certainly seem to be
> > >> experiencing
> >  something similar.
> > 
> >  There are a number of people in Fairfield having this kind of
> > >> experience.
> >  And, I am confident, many others in all walks of life having
> these
> >  experiences. It is in the air. It is not just a matter of TM,
> there
> > >> are
> >  lots of groups and people bent on awakening and succeeding.
> > 
> >  I say these things across the board because that is the way I
> > >> experience
> >  these things and there is some support in the environment for
> this
> > >> way of
> >  describing human experience in long term meditators. None of this
> is
> >  special with me.
> > 
> >  You have every prerogative to question (although you have not
> > >> actually
> >  questioned anything above, you have only stated that you question
> > >> it).
> >  Mapping out benchmarks for spiritual development is a minefield
> > >> because as
> >  you said, 'I think there are likely many exceptions and
> anomalies',
> > >> so
> >  there are people who are not going to fit the mold. My outline
> using
> > >> the
> >  terms M used is just one way one could try to map general
> categories
> > >> of
> >  experience.
> > 
> >  For example, Charles Manson shows a number of characteristics of
> > >> unity if
> >  we examine his statements, but he is also insane, a psychopath,
> and
> > >> lacks
> >  certa

[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> > > > Obviously, to qualify as a Pip or a MG you need to 
> > > > be a minion; 
> > > >
> > > Oh, I get it - minion, then Pip, then MG.
> > > 
> > > > try and keep up Richard.
> > > >
> > > Yeah, well I'm trying to do the work, Bob. 
> > > 
> > > My comment about the night life in Rishikesh TTC was 
> > > right on topic; I posted all about the duck hunters 
> > > and the skin headed neo-nazis; I insinuated that Turq 
> > > was a yuppie and that Barry2 was a geek; I ignored Judy, 
> > > Ann, Share, Emily, and that other woman, if she is one. 
> > > 
> Oba:
> > Are you talking about Susan?
> >
> Maybe, is she a Pip, a MG, or a minion?

I think she may be Barry's minion.
> 
>  
>  
> > > What do I have to say - that somebody has a cob up 
> > > their ass? I tried that and some guy said it was smutty. 
> > > 
> > > Go figure.
> > > 
> > > > > > I love you. You're hilarious. Where can I apply to
> > > > > > become a Pip?
> > > > > >
> > > > > Sure, but what if you want to be one of the minions?
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> >
> > We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us 
> > had what it took to get enlightened for the three 
> > previous yugas.  
> >
> > Yep, toads.  All of us.
> > 
> > Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING 
> > as our spiritual practice?
> 
> OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is
> important IMO to remember that "Kali Yuga" does
> not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made-
> up division of time that does not and has never
> existed. 
> 
> That said, and to continue with your joke, I 
> noticed that no one ever really dealt with the
> actual *issue* I brought up about whether the
> Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even
> attractiveness to explain how he managed to get
> a few women to have sex with him. People avoided 
> that issue like the plague, playing "shoot the 
> messenger" instead, like always. 

They did? Who did? 

Of course MMY didn't have any sexual charisma, even a male of the species like, 
presumably, yourself could tell that. He didn't have one iota of animal 
magnetism going for him, at least on video. Only the women who allegedly had 
sex with him could tell you what he had goin' on off screen. I suggest you find 
one of them to talk to. And as far as "managing" to get women to have sex with 
him this would be no more of a long shot than you managing to get some female 
to have sex with you; you hope to God you can either get them drunk enough or 
fool them for long enough to get then against a wall or in the sack. Now don't 
bother me any more with your inane questions.

And, if I may ask, how do you know everyone ignored your initial question since 
you filter out 90% of the posters here? Are you psychic too?

> 
> So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke
> to pass along the words of at least three TM
> women who, even though still part of the TMO,
> *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All
> three described the idea of having sex with
> Maharishi using the exact same same words:
> 
> "Have sex with that squat little toad? E."
> 
> Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice
> he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-)
> 
> As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-,
> any women here who had sexual fantasies about
> Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited
> to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
>

[FairfieldLife] Fuck da post count [was Re: Eliminating Post-count on FFL ]

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > Only 54 posts this morning since last night's Post Count.  
> > Seems to be trending down so folks may be hitting their 
> > stride.
> 
> More likely that it's seeping through a few thick 
> skulls that their normal act of wanting attention
> so badly they'll try to insult or taunt someone
> into giving it to them isn't working any more. 
> 
> Did you watch any of "True Blood" this season? I
> kinda liked it. The parts that were most inter-
> esting was to see what happens to vampires when 
> they can't feed as they've gotten used to feeding.
> That was a familiar sight.

Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Too many posts we're fucked, too few 
and we're vampires gone anorexic.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Visiting London?

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Bob Price:
> > I used to live near Equal Reasons.
> >
> I went to High School at Bushy Park when dad was
> stationed at RAF Bentwaters and Sculthorpe.

I went to high school in Joss Hodd Town and lived at Trek Beaters back in the 
60's and 70's.
 
>I wonder
> whatever happened to Cliff Richard? He was almost
> famous over here in the U.S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DtN8-wRrqw

> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Bentwaters
> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Sculthorpe
> 
> 
> > > Don't be without this handy map:
> > >
> > > http://www.steveprentice.net/tube/TfLSillyMaps/anagrammap.gif
> 
>

[FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post]

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Ann, you're just being silly here.

That's me, "Ann Silly Woelfle Bater".

 >What would you suggest? That I call the police on turq?!

I have stopped seriously suggesting things to you a while ago Share. But as a 
last ditch attempt I would conjecture that you are choosing to ignore the worst 
post that anyone has directed your way, and frankly, I can understand why as 
whatever you could say to Barry won't make a bit of difference to him although 
it might make a difference for you and you are the more important 
consideration, not BW.  

 >A lot worse IMO has been delivered to me on FFL.

No there hasn't.


>Different people are bothered by different forms and content of attacks. I 
>think I'm less bothered by turq because his attacks are straight forward. 
>Whereas I'm very triggered by what I call snide and sly attacks.

Interesting. However, "attacks" aside, the other odious part of his post to you 
was the fact that it made it so clear how he had felt about you all along and 
this type of clarity in a moment when he let it all hang out there for everyone 
to see in black and white was horrendous because the lie that was his 
'relationship' with you was exposed. And even now you attempt to engage him in 
banter as if nothing ever happened. That, to me, is demeaning to yourself and I 
don't like to see it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ann 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 10:35 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real 
> Fairfield Life Post]
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Dr D, what is going on here? Barry is not responsible for Freddie's 
> > behavior. Get a grip.
> 
> No Susan, Barry is not responsible for Fred's behaviour but Barry's behaviour 
> is bad enough and he doesn't take responsibility for that either. You appear 
> to be willing to take that on for him, however. I don't know what 's worse - 
> Share putting up with his abuse of her or you supporting him.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us 
> > > > > had what it took to get enlightened for the three 
> > > > > previous yugas. 
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, toads.  All of us.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING 
> > > > > as our spiritual practice?
> > > > 
> > > > OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is
> > > > important IMO to remember that "Kali Yuga" does
> > > > not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made-
> > > > up division of time that does not and has never
> > > > existed. 
> > > > 
> > > > That said, and to continue with your joke, I 
> > > > noticed that no one ever really dealt with the
> > > > actual *issue* I brought up about whether the
> > > > Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even
> > > > attractiveness to explain how he managed to get
> > > > a few women to have sex with him. People avoided 
> > > > that issue like the plague, playing "shoot the 
> > > > messenger" instead, like always. 
> > > > 
> > > > So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke
> > > > to pass along the words of at least three TM
> > > > women who, even though still part of the TMO,
> > > > *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All
> > > > three described the idea of having sex with
> > > > Maharishi using the exact same same words:
> > > > 
> > > > "Have sex with that squat little toad? E."
> > > > 
> > > > Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice
> > > > he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-,
> > > > any women here who had sexual fantasies about
> > > > Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited
> > > > to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: EliminatingAd hominem Post-count on FFL lets return ..YES!

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > I will not "vote" one way or another on this, but I
> > do think that many people here are missing out on
> > the opportunity for creativity and improved writing
> > offered by posting limits. It doesn't have to be
> > seen as a "gag order," except by those who by now
> > most agree need to be gagged. It can be seen as a
> > chance to step back and THINK before typing, and
> > especially before pressing that SEND button.
>
> "As I have mentioned before, I type faster
> than most people; the things I write appear on the
> screen at pretty much the exact moment they appear
> in my head. I rarely edit what I say at all, and
> few posts take me more than a couple of minutes."
>
> --Barry, September 13, 2011
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/289269
The post of the day so far goes to Judy:



>

[FairfieldLife] Was Voldemort a rapist like Freddy? [was Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post]

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, too bad Maharishi only had sex with those whom he loved. He probably 
> > should have just raped the women at gunpoint, like Freddy Lenz, your Guru, 
> > did. Great suggestion, Voldemort! 
> > 
> > "Yes, if a woman won't have sex with me, I'll play with a gun to convince 
> > her."
> > 
> > If only you could have shared this priceless wisdom with Maharishi before 
> > he passed away. Do you ever follow Freddy's example with women, now? Just 
> > curious as you hung around with him quite a bit, even sitting in the 
> > coveted front seat of his car, whether or not you have also raped women 
> > like he did? No worries, I am not expecting an honest response, least of 
> > all from you.
> 
> Dr D, what is going on here? Barry is not responsible for Freddie's behavior. 
> Get a grip.

No Susan, Barry is not responsible for Fred's behaviour but Barry's behaviour 
is bad enough and he doesn't take responsibility for that either. You appear to 
be willing to take that on for him, however. I don't know what 's worse - Share 
putting up with his abuse of her or you supporting him.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We were all born in Kali Yuga, which means none of us 
> > > > had what it took to get enlightened for the three 
> > > > previous yugas.  
> > > >
> > > > Yep, toads.  All of us.
> > > > 
> > > > Seriously, is it any wonder that we ended up HOPPING 
> > > > as our spiritual practice?
> > > 
> > > OK, I get that all of this is a joke, but it is
> > > important IMO to remember that "Kali Yuga" does
> > > not exist. It's a made-up human term for a made-
> > > up division of time that does not and has never
> > > existed. 
> > > 
> > > That said, and to continue with your joke, I 
> > > noticed that no one ever really dealt with the
> > > actual *issue* I brought up about whether the
> > > Rish actually had any sexual charisma or even
> > > attractiveness to explain how he managed to get
> > > a few women to have sex with him. People avoided 
> > > that issue like the plague, playing "shoot the 
> > > messenger" instead, like always. 
> > > 
> > > So I'll piggyback (or frogback) off Edg's joke
> > > to pass along the words of at least three TM
> > > women who, even though still part of the TMO,
> > > *weren't* afraid to deal with the issue. All
> > > three described the idea of having sex with
> > > Maharishi using the exact same same words:
> > > 
> > > "Have sex with that squat little toad? E."
> > > 
> > > Appropriate somehow that the spiritual practice
> > > he brought to the world was hopping like a frog. :-)
> > > 
> > > As for the issue of his attractiveness or non-,
> > > any women here who had sexual fantasies about
> > > Maharishi (requited or unrequited) are invited
> > > to share them with us to provide a counterpoint.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, iranitea  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > ---  "bobpriced" bobpriced@ wrote:
> > >
> > > As I'm sure he knows, I'm a huge fan of Turq's posts; so I'm
> wondering
> > > if anyone
> > > would be kind enough to translate this one for me, particularly the
> last
> > > paragraph.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSjwU8gEsI
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hey Bob, it's so nice to have you here.  You add color and
> > an extra dimension to this group.
> >
> > I think you scared Barry which is why he doesn't reply to
> > you.
> >
> > We are geneticaly hardwired to see symmetrical faces and
> > clear skin as attractive.  It indicates the genetic health
> > of the individual, resistance to infections etc.  Perhaps it
> > does irk him a bit when a woman gets attrracted to a baldy
> > like MMY.
> 
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> Jason, Maharishi wasn't always bald. I'm not female, so I can't really
> say if he was attractive to ladies, but as a devotee, there were
> certainly photos of him I liked, and I still like, this one for example.
> He doesn't look like a sex god there, but I certainly thought his
> demeanor was beautiful, the way he walked into the hall had something
> royal.

This is a stunningly beautiful picture of MMY. It is sublime and his eyes are 
gentle and feeling. I have always loved this picture as well, although I have 
not seen it for decades. The evident beauty of this man, as portrayed by this 
moment in time when this picture was taken, attracts me to him for just about 
every other reason than sexual however. 
> 
> But I guess, much of that, what we see, and the way we see it, is also a
> conditioning. There were also people who were attracted to Rajneesh, he
> was also bald, so...
> 
> 
> > There are 6 categories of immune systems in humans and it's
> > reflected in facial features and smell.  You are attracted
> > to someone with a complementary immune system.  You are not
> > attracted to someone with a similar immune system.
> >
> > It's a mechanism by nature to prevent in-breeding. It also
> > ensures that the ofspring are healthy and have better immune
> > systems.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > > ---  Michael Jackson mjackson74@:
> > > > >
> > > > > That is interesting - I don't understand why you deplore
> > > > > the act because of who he did it with? You know the
> > > > > women and don't like them or what?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > ---  turquoiseb@:
> > >
> > > > I'm going to steer your thread in a slightly different
> > > > direction, if you don't mind. For me, one of the most
> > > > puzzling things about the whole spiritual-teachers-
> > > > boning-their-students thang is that often I really,
> > > > really don't "get" the attraction, from the woman's
> > > > side.
> > > >
> > > > Call me guilty of being a lifelong straight guy, but
> > > > I simply don't understand women who would find Maharishi
> > > > Mahesh Yogi sexually *attractive* enough to want to have
> > > > sex with him. Charismatic, maybe, depending on your stan-
> > > > dards for that concept. The next thing to god in their
> > > > minds, possibly.
> > > >
> > > > But sexually attractive? I just don't get it.
> > > >
> > > > With some *other* teachers, of both sexes, I can definitely
> > > > see them being considered sexually attractive by their
> > > > students. I mean, like all of her male followers, I sprung
> > > > a woodie for Gangaji when I met her. :-) And I've certainly
> > > > met male spiritual teachers who would be swooned over even
> > > > by women who had no idea they were spiritual teachers,
> > > > because they were hot!
> > > >
> > > > But I honestly don't get it with Maharishi. I can see many
> > > > reasons for a woman devotee wanting to have sex with him,
> > > > most of them closely tied to the word "devotee," but I
> > > > find it difficult to imagine many of them wanting to
> > > > bone him because he was...uh...just so bonable.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post

[Ann]

Hee, as if everyone if FF doesn't already know who these faux "saints" are. 
There are no secrets and there are no such thing as saints - when are you going 
to realize this?? The only saint in FF is the church at 300 E. Burlington "St 
Gabriel and All Angels". Sounds like a package deal to me - you get a major 
angel and a lot of minor ones in one visit.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > For those of us who live afar from Fairfield, can you tell us who the saint 
> > is that is visiting FF?
> > 
> >
> 
> Dear MJ;
> MJ, It is way too dangerous yet to be too open on this list about things like 
> seeing saints.  Even though it is clearly within Guru Dev's prescript for 
> spiritual development to seek the company of saints, the TM policy is still 
> decidedly anti-saint and sitting with saints could quickly dis-qualify you 
> around here with the movement.  However the town meditating community of 
> Fairfield is bustling and vibrant with the spiritually illumined and also the 
> saintly who are capable.  I know Alex's saint across from Farmer's market and 
> also this one visiting.  Both have been interviewed by Rick at BATGAP.  
> However,  "loose lips sink ships" and it is really important for the open 
> [FFL] list here to not "out" anyone un-necessarily.  
> 
> I'd appreciate it if you would call your spies off my tail today.  It is a 
> large satsang there with this person and a lot of people could get in trouble 
> losing their jobs, housing and Dome badges for Being there.  Today's 
> spiritual consideration is the role of virtue in the mind-body-subtle system 
> and the impact of bad behavior on the spiritual system of the subtle system 
> of the light-body and soul.  It seems quite a relevant topic for Fairfield to 
> [meditate] on in satsang with a saint.  I'll get back to you more on this.  
> And also more on the ad hominem threat to [FFL].  
> Have a Wonder-full Day,   
> -Buck
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Buck 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:05 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Real Fairfield Life Post
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Dear MJ,  we have more to resolve about the ad hominem homids trolling this 
> > list but I do appreciate that you are trying to help the community here by 
> > attempting to furnish more substantial spiritual content to the list by 
> > presenting these questions.  They are substantial points and it will be 
> > especially interesting to watch how the next generation of teachers move 
> > around them. 
> > 
> > Actually there is a living saint in town today having a satsang this 
> > weekend on the immortality of the soul and virtue of character.  
> > [appropriate FF topic].   With all the dissonance around here the topic 
> > seems quite relevant to resolving in the meditating community. 
> > 
> > My advice of feeling to the current leadership of the TM.org is to just 
> > show they are "not that" and move forward in a transparent way doing good 
> > works.  Keep with "we are not that, we are this..." and move forward.  They 
> > got to do a much better job of leadership on this or that David Wants to 
> > Fly video that is so freely available on the internet every time you do a 
> > google search for TM will come up impugning the whole TM character.   I got 
> > chores to finish and then go sit with a saint today.  But I'll be back much 
> > later to talk some more about about this and also Ad hominemism on the FFL, 
> > we all have a lot more to worry over around the Ad hominem as terroristic 
> > abuse issue yet.
> > 
> > Have a Nice Day,
> > -Buck 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> > >
> > > How'z'come it is that we always ask, "Why did Maharishi have sex?" 
> > > instead of: "Why in the fuck are we such spiritual toads that he's all we 
> > > could muster up for a guru?"
> > > 
> > > Edg -- Toad #3,589
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > OK, in keeping with Buck's theory of FFL posts being in some way about 
> > > > FFL, I have an offering, based on the tenuous fact of past habitation 
> > > > in FF and at the mighty Maharishi U.
> > > > 
> > > > I have a friend who is a dedicated TM meditator (sidha actually) whom I 
> > > > met at my local TM center here almost 40 years ago. We worked together 
> > > > on staff for the team of governors who taught the sidhis here in both 
> > > > North and South Carolina yea those many years ago. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This friend is not only a devout TM meditator, but a devout Christian 
> > > > with strong Christian values. Over the course of these past few years 
> > > > he has been wrestling with the idea of Maharishi having allegedly had 
> > > > sex and lying about it to both cover and continue the behavior. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > For this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Asking Bhairitu for Advise Creating ME-subfolder in Thunderbird

[Ann]

All of this blather of Barry's here just goes to show that he is missing out on 
the fact that, because he filters out all the posters that fulfill his criteria 
below, there are about 10 posts per week for him to read and his world shrinks 
by the moment. But more importantly, he has missed all the loving, adoring, 
complimentary posting his former "enemies" have recently been engaging in. Now 
Barry is isolated in his imaginary world of being the last real and relevant 
man standing and all this time he could have realized the world loves him, if 
only he'd remove that filter. The human condition is tragic and I weep for the 
fact that this suffering of his is so unnecessary.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
> >
> > PLEASE
> > Bhairitu I did install Thunderbird  but still do have trouble 
> > getting hold on posting addressed to me.Missing quite a lot 
> > or found about it too late to answer.
> > How do I filter that out. Could  it be because being quite 
> > often in Europe and Far-Middle-Near-(whatever)East and 
> > therefore changing IP.?
> > But on the other hand TurquoiseB -being in Europe,too-does 
> > has a functioning filter installed.
> 
> My "filter" is manual, since I read FFL on the Yahoo
> Web page. I just scan the list of Message View, run
> them through my "wetware" filter, and skip any posts
> sent by people who fail the "Life's too short to deal 
> with pissants" test. :-)
> 
> If you have trouble with getting an email client 
> working for you, someone else will have to be your
> customer service rep. 
> 
> BTW, to get on my Don't Bother With List, one has to
> have established a long history of 1) almost never
> having anything interesting to contribute, 2) attack-
> ing me (or anyone who dares to interface with me in 
> a non-hostile manner), and 3) running the Narcissistic 
> Personality Disorder "You *have* to respond to every 
> criticism I make of you and argue with me, because 
> you just *have* to" routine. 
> 
> In my book, #3 is the most egregious. That's not just
> a narcissism thang, it's an attention vampire thang.
> Best to "cut them off at the pump" and let them drain
> others who are still willing to be drained. From my 
> point of view, this last couple of weeks not dealing
> with them or responding to them has been so pleasant
> that this policy is going to become a permanent one, 
> not just for this Unlimited Blabbing month.
> 
> I figure that will piss them off more than anything 
> else could, so they'll redouble their attacks, but 
> who really CARES what pissants say, eh? 
> 
> Good luck getting your email set up...
> 
> > Can you give me a hand here,please.May be there are other 
> > here at FFL with the same problem.
> > Thanks in advance
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yup, I find a lot of the chatter here boring.  Like 
> > > Rick, I have a filter that copies any message that 
> > > addresses me to a sub folder on Thunderbird.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nidal Hassan Is Found Guilty

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Well, they really *did* lean over the edge of civilization a tad too far, 
> with the whole holocaust/genocide thingie...Fair or not, it tends to leave a 
> really bad first impression with others.

Yes, it is a shame there has to be repercussions for bad actions but ugly 
architecture and the lack of a German national anthem sung in the halls of 
academia are hardly on the scale of millions of people gassed, tortured and 
roasted alive. Shit happens and war never seems to make anybody feel better but 
I'll take the rape of my architecture over the rape of my body. I can always 
tear down the offending structure later.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The brutality of that war was unimaginable. What a chilling
> > > > story.
> > > >
> > > As a child (hell, as an adult) I was always horrified by the total
> > > brutality of the German-Russian Eastern Front conflict during WWII -
> > > including the use of prisoners as slave labour and their being worked to
> > > death - both sides adopting the same approach.
> > > In contrast, British and German prisoners were treated with comparative
> > > respect. And for the Brits there were also the more romantic episodes of
> > > war, for example, German battleships like the Bismark sinking British
> > > cruisers but eventually being cornered themselves and being sunk.
> > > The German-Russian barbarism was unspeakable, in the original sense of
> > > that word: talking about it would degrade the speakers themselves.
> > > But one day, someone mentioned to me something that - as soon as I heard
> > > it - I recognised as true. If the Russians hadn't prosecuted the war
> > > with such ferocity and callous disregard of life then when the Yanks and
> > > Brits had landed at Normandy they would have had to adopt the same
> > > degrading tactics. In a way, the Russians accepted the blood guilt and
> > > maybe there's something of bad faith about striking superior attitudes
> > > about western, more civilised, conduct.
> > > (And let's not forget the controversial issue of the carpet-bombing of
> > > German and Japanese civilian areas carried out by British and American
> > > heavy bombers.)
> > > Having said that, the mass-rape of German girls and women after the
> > > surrender - carried out by Russian occupying forces - really turns my
> > > stomach and has no possible justification.
> > 
> > Or the mass-rape of German culture by the Americans after the war. They 
> > weren't even allowed to sing their own national anthem in school ! And if 
> > their cities were not completely destroyed by allied bombing the new 
> > buildings built by architects from all over the world certainly has made 
> > the alienation complete. Just go to Berlin and see for yourself, it's a 
> > complete mess except for small enclaves dotted around the city that have 
> > hold on to some old charm.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> Speaking of show and tell, Ann, I can make an origami paper balloon, demo 
> real dance moves from the 60's, roll my tongue, lift my right eyebrow higher 
> than my left, and assemble a thermonuclear device using common kitchen items. 

I'm not sure there will be time for all of these fascinating demonstrations so 
you may have to pick your top two. Our fellow friends here at FFL are also 
bursting with talent and our time together here in Victoria will only be so 
long (as sad as that sounds). On the other hand five acres (the size of my 
property) can accommodate a lot of refrigerator cartons so everyone could, 
potentially, stay forever!
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you dear, thanks for sharing it. Looks like you had a real good
> > > time, FYI - I can make a few South Indian classical dance moves, OK they
> > > may be hilarious, but whatever I enjoy it :-)
> > 
> > You better be prepared to demonstrate these at our gathering in Victoria, 
> > it'll be a highlight. In fact, we should all have something we can share 
> > with the others. Obba?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Price,
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGRWN26TAo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the delay.  I was with the Temple dancers.
> > > > Beautiful performance this evening.
> > > > Sita Kalyanam, marriage depicting Sita and Rama.  So beautiful and
> > > > entertaining.
> > > > They couldn't use the oil lamps (Theatre/firehouse ordinance), but
> > > > incense crawled over and around the sold out audiences heads.
> > > > The bow stringing reminds me of my life lately, ain't happening until
> > > it
> > > > happens. lol
> > > >
> > > > Met a nice woman and her 7 year old girl who wanted to jump onto the
> > > > stage more than I did.
> > > >   I calmed her with the 8 count of the south indian ragas inbetween
> > > sets,
> > > > that did not make her like the music more than dance.
> > > >   She kept asking her Mom just before I did that, "Why is She
> > > laughing?"
> > > >I had no idea same girl had been scolded by an old coot for trying
> > > to
> > > > see better. No wonder when I smiled she came and sat quietly next to
> > > me.
> > > > Her Mom smiled and thanked me for treating her daughter so nicely, and
> > > > then filled me in on the old coot.
> > > >
> > > >   I thought the Mom and daughter looked a bit hugely American, Texas,
> > > > even, and I had no idea my whispering the 8 counts repetitively near
> > > the
> > > > girls ear during those ragas, what I would find out after the
> > > > performance. The girl had already taken a year of South Indian Temple
> > > > dancing in Texas, and she was well aware of ragas, and her and her Mom
> > > > were Hari Krishnas. I had not one clue if I had just looked at them.
> > > > The Mom starts shooting off all kind of Sanskrit names and stuff, and
> > > I
> > > > was like, "Holy cow! Heaven on Earth has ascended the Earth, hear that
> > > > Buck! Don't worry about the domes, the back country farm folk from
> > > Texas
> > > > were already doing darshan and pujas and stuff. An eye and ear opener
> > > > for me. They were inviting me to classes and all. All I did was smiled
> > > > at the little girl and whispers pf the ragas 8 counts in her ears as
> > > the
> > > > musicians played.
> > > >
> > > > No diversion.
> > > > This is about Ravi and his candidacy for moderator. What some long
> > > time
> > > > folks here may thing he is not qualified for many reasons, I think the
> > > > story above says it all. Ravi is our Indian, Brahman, Bone-a-babe
> > > > candidate, right here in America and he loves this country and he
> > > knows
> > > > very well the shitzpah and the real deal, no matter what some of you
> > > TMO
> > > > folks think. He knows, he cares and has a heart of gold.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" chivukula.ravi@
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you dear, thanks for sharing it. Looks like you had a real
> good
> > > time, FYI - I can make a few South Indian classical dance moves, OK
> they
> > > may be hilarious, but whatever I enjoy it :-)
> >
> > You better be prepared to demonstrate these at our gathering in
> Victoria, it'll be a highlight. In fact, we should all have something we
> can share with the others. Obba?
> 
> Here's a teaser then - http://youtu.be/oUD8jbLpk84?t=2m51s
> <http://youtu.be/oUD8jbLpk84?t=2m51s>

I can see it now: Ravi and Obba busting the moves, but she better get 
practicing. We'll use our ball room that resembles the one in the video and our 
FFL audience, although a tad smaller, will line the walls as the enthralled 
audience. I can hardly wait. How could you have teased me so? The wait will be 
unbearable.
> 
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Price,
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGRWN26TAo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the delay.  I was with the Temple dancers.
> > > > Beautiful performance this evening.
> > > > Sita Kalyanam, marriage depicting Sita and Rama.  So beautiful and
> > > > entertaining.
> > > > They couldn't use the oil lamps (Theatre/firehouse ordinance), but
> > > > incense crawled over and around the sold out audiences heads.
> > > > The bow stringing reminds me of my life lately, ain't happening
> until
> > > it
> > > > happens. lol
> > > >
> > > > Met a nice woman and her 7 year old girl who wanted to jump onto
> the
> > > > stage more than I did.
> > > >   I calmed her with the 8 count of the south indian ragas
> inbetween
> > > sets,
> > > > that did not make her like the music more than dance.
> > > >   She kept asking her Mom just before I did that, "Why is She
> > > laughing?"
> > > >I had no idea same girl had been scolded by an old coot for
> trying
> > > to
> > > > see better. No wonder when I smiled she came and sat quietly next
> to
> > > me.
> > > > Her Mom smiled and thanked me for treating her daughter so nicely,
> and
> > > > then filled me in on the old coot.
> > > >
> > > >   I thought the Mom and daughter looked a bit hugely American,
> Texas,
> > > > even, and I had no idea my whispering the 8 counts repetitively
> near
> > > the
> > > > girls ear during those ragas, what I would find out after the
> > > > performance. The girl had already taken a year of South Indian
> Temple
> > > > dancing in Texas, and she was well aware of ragas, and her and her
> Mom
> > > > were Hari Krishnas. I had not one clue if I had just looked at
> them.
> > > > The Mom starts shooting off all kind of Sanskrit names and stuff,
> and
> > > I
> > > > was like, "Holy cow! Heaven on Earth has ascended the Earth, hear
> that
> > > > Buck! Don't worry about the domes, the back country farm folk from
> > > Texas
> > > > were already doing darshan and pujas and stuff. An eye and ear
> opener
> > > > for me. They were inviting me to classes and all. All I did was
> smiled
> > > > at the little girl and whispers pf the ragas 8 counts in her ears
> as
> > > the
> > > > musicians played.
> > > >
> > > > No diversion.
> > > > This is about Ravi and his candidacy for moderator. What some long
> > > time
> > > > folks here may thing he is not qualified for many reasons, I think
> the
> > > > story above says it all. Ravi is our Indian, Brahman, Bone-a-babe
> > > > candidate, right here in America and he loves this country and he
> > > knows
> > > > very well the shitzpah and the real deal, no matter what some of
> you
> > > TMO
> > > > folks think. He knows, he cares and has a heart of gold.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Obba,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Get out the vote (was Jerry Seinfeld on Why He May Never Go Back to TV)

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
wrote:
>
> Thank you dear, thanks for sharing it. Looks like you had a real good
> time, FYI - I can make a few South Indian classical dance moves, OK they
> may be hilarious, but whatever I enjoy it :-)

You better be prepared to demonstrate these at our gathering in Victoria, it'll 
be a highlight. In fact, we should all have something we can share with the 
others. Obba?
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr. Price,
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIGRWN26TAo
> >
> >
> > Sorry for the delay.  I was with the Temple dancers.
> > Beautiful performance this evening.
> > Sita Kalyanam, marriage depicting Sita and Rama.  So beautiful and
> > entertaining.
> > They couldn't use the oil lamps (Theatre/firehouse ordinance), but
> > incense crawled over and around the sold out audiences heads.
> > The bow stringing reminds me of my life lately, ain't happening until
> it
> > happens. lol
> >
> > Met a nice woman and her 7 year old girl who wanted to jump onto the
> > stage more than I did.
> >   I calmed her with the 8 count of the south indian ragas inbetween
> sets,
> > that did not make her like the music more than dance.
> >   She kept asking her Mom just before I did that, "Why is She
> laughing?"
> >I had no idea same girl had been scolded by an old coot for trying
> to
> > see better. No wonder when I smiled she came and sat quietly next to
> me.
> > Her Mom smiled and thanked me for treating her daughter so nicely, and
> > then filled me in on the old coot.
> >
> >   I thought the Mom and daughter looked a bit hugely American, Texas,
> > even, and I had no idea my whispering the 8 counts repetitively near
> the
> > girls ear during those ragas, what I would find out after the
> > performance. The girl had already taken a year of South Indian Temple
> > dancing in Texas, and she was well aware of ragas, and her and her Mom
> > were Hari Krishnas. I had not one clue if I had just looked at them.
> > The Mom starts shooting off all kind of Sanskrit names and stuff, and
> I
> > was like, "Holy cow! Heaven on Earth has ascended the Earth, hear that
> > Buck! Don't worry about the domes, the back country farm folk from
> Texas
> > were already doing darshan and pujas and stuff. An eye and ear opener
> > for me. They were inviting me to classes and all. All I did was smiled
> > at the little girl and whispers pf the ragas 8 counts in her ears as
> the
> > musicians played.
> >
> > No diversion.
> > This is about Ravi and his candidacy for moderator. What some long
> time
> > folks here may thing he is not qualified for many reasons, I think the
> > story above says it all. Ravi is our Indian, Brahman, Bone-a-babe
> > candidate, right here in America and he loves this country and he
> knows
> > very well the shitzpah and the real deal, no matter what some of you
> TMO
> > folks think. He knows, he cares and has a heart of gold.
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bobpriced"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Obba,
> > >
> > yeah, baby?
> >
> > Oh, that was from earlier. ha
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >
> > > > Dear Mr. Price,
> > > >   Bob,
> > > >   and wife,
> > > > I believe Ravi can do an impersonation of anyone.
> > >
> > > I agree, at present he seems to be doing a fair impersonation of the
> > > "Hidden Iman".
> > >
> > Think he is found now.
> >
> > > >   Need to retrieve him from the belly of the whale, though.
> > > > Fluff him, Mr. Price. Tickle the whale as to release Kali's Pimp.
> > >
> > > I'm on it, but the whale will need a bigger fish to give up its
> belly
> > > full of Kali's Pimp; any ideas,
> > > how about Jona, or better still Mary Margaret:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4VrujheblY
> > >
> > One really cute and exhilarating child!
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I am embarrassed to admit, I used up the gold leaf when I made the
> > > > desserts for my cousin's baby shower at the country club.
> > > > Heh, they went over pretty big, all were eaten and we had fun in
> the
> > > > process using the little morsels as sun catchers, and redirecting
> > > light
> > > > at the nearby golfers, "Four!" became, "Fuck!"  Pretty hilarious.
> > > There
> > > > were no children present, just us girls and the matriarchs.
> > > >
> > > > I do have heavy duty aluminum foil, will this suffice?
> > > >
> > > > A sheet of galvanized steel too. It is flexible.
> > > >
> > > > To be really creative, how about the left over chicken wire?
> > >
> > > I like the sound of chicken wire although Buck will want Gold to
> > > throw his delegates behind the Raja; I was thinking this would
> justify
> > > a visit to Dubai, but Maurice Stans suggested we go with pyrite as
> > Buck
> > > won't know the difference (I told him you would think that was a
> cheap
> > > shot and not the kind of campaign we're runnin round here).
> > >
> > How South Dakota Mica?
> > Silly, Mauric

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> >
> > Hahaha. I should have clarified. hahaha.
> > Morning wake time. 6am. 
> > Oh good.
> >  I hope you don't mind a happy person in the morning.
> > Is it okay if I drink 2 and a half cups of caffeinated coffee, twice a day 
> > (morning and tea time)?
> > Should I bring my own latex pillow? (of course I will. :))
> > When I meditate, I do it in my own business (can I lock the guest bedroom 
> > door?)  
> > I can help shovel hay or poop if needed. No lazy over stay yer welcome 
> > house guest I will be. 
> 
> You can sleep in as long as you like just no ridiculous sounds if you do the 
> flying sidhi. I am a happy person morning or evening; I basically hit the 
> floor running in the morning and don't drink coffee but my husband makes a 
> good cup. 

(I just hit the send by mistake.) If you want to shovel poop it'll have to be 
at 7am because that is when we start the stalls and feeding. We have memory 
foam or feather pillows so bring your latex. Lock the doors all you want. 

It's funny actually because we used to run a bed and breakfast at our former 
house so this all seems perfectly normal.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Ann,
> > > > What time do you wake up?
> > > 
> > > Literally or figuratively? Literally 6 am pacific time, figuratively when 
> > > I get kicked in the ass by life (which is quite often).
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, 
> > > > > > because she
> > > > > > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want 
> > > > > > someone
> > > > > > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - 
> > > > > always and forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll 
> > > > > prepare the special feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, 
> > > > > they're off the menu. I better get a guest list going, we'll start an 
> > > > > alphabetical order, I'll be first since I am an "A".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Ann!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living 
> > > > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > > > > > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging 
> > > > > > squirrels
> > > > > > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> > > > > > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not 
> > > > > > > > even
> > > > > > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as 
> > > > > > varmints
> > > > > > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs 
> > > > > > lots
> > > > > > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a mor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Hahaha. I should have clarified. hahaha.
> Morning wake time. 6am. 
> Oh good.
>  I hope you don't mind a happy person in the morning.
> Is it okay if I drink 2 and a half cups of caffeinated coffee, twice a day 
> (morning and tea time)?
> Should I bring my own latex pillow? (of course I will. :))
> When I meditate, I do it in my own business (can I lock the guest bedroom 
> door?)  
> I can help shovel hay or poop if needed. No lazy over stay yer welcome house 
> guest I will be. 

You can sleep in as long as you like just no ridiculous sounds if you do the 
flying sidhi. I am a happy person morning or evening; I basically hit the floor 
running in the morning and don't fdrink coffee but my husband makes a good cup.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Ann,
> > > What time do you wake up?
> > 
> > Literally or figuratively? Literally 6 am pacific time, figuratively when I 
> > get kicked in the ass by life (which is quite often).
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, because 
> > > > > she
> > > > > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want 
> > > > > someone
> > > > > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
> > > > 
> > > > Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - always 
> > > > and forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare the 
> > > > special feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the 
> > > > menu. I better get a guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical 
> > > > order, I'll be first since I am an "A".
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Ann!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living 
> > > > > > > > in a
> > > > > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > > > > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging 
> > > > > squirrels
> > > > > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> > > > > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not 
> > > > > > > even
> > > > > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as 
> > > > > varmints
> > > > > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs 
> > > > > lots
> > > > > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> > > > > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband 
> > > > > could
> > > > > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
> > > > > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Chilling

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> 
> Ann,
> What time do you wake up?

Literally or figuratively? Literally 6 am pacific time, figuratively when I get 
kicked in the ass by life (which is quite often).
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Umm..if I were you I would not be so eager and enthusiastic, because she
> > > will be inviting me too !!! (that's the deal anyway that I want someone
> > > around for my fun, she may now be mad at me for revealing it)
> > 
> > Ravi Baby, you know you have a standing invitation to my abode - always and 
> > forever (is that redundant?) And no varmints, we'll prepare the special 
> > feast for you but no horse meat, I'm afraid, they're off the menu. I better 
> > get a guest list going, we'll start an alphabetical order, I'll be first 
> > since I am an "A".
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Ann!
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was actually thinking of something more subtle, like living in a
> > > refrigerator carton, with a small campfire, on the edge of your
> > > property, preferably hidden by foliage on all sides, foraging squirrels
> > > and other varmints, for awhile. The time will go by in a flash.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let me know if this works for you, and I can be there,
> > > perhaps coincident with Rory's visit!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a better idea. You can occupy an actual bedroom and not even
> > > have to share it with Rory - he can have his own too. As far as varmints
> > > go we have quail, rats, mice, shrews, voles, feral cats, tame dogs lots
> > > of bird life including owls and vultures and hawks. For a more
> > > substantial meal there are always the deer, though. Or, my husband could
> > > do a slow cooked smoked turkey on the BBQ with all the fixin's. Just
> > > give me your arrival date. We are 5 minutes from the airport or ferry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have never been to Victoria, and have always wanted to go!!
> > > On a related topic, is it the same in Canada, as the U.S., where if a
> > > person inhabits someone else's property or horse farm continuously for
> > > seven years, they can then claim it, through squatter's rights?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Geez, I think it may be. There's this guy who lives in my house,
> > > cooks me meals, shares my bed and calls me wife and he seems to think he
> > > can stay for as long as he likes and even claim he owns half the place.
> > > So, I guess the answer to that is "yes".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I love Victoria! We had a great time exploring it, getting
> > > there by ferry from Orcas -- which is also one of my all-time favorite
> > > places on earth.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Well you can come and visit me anytime. I'm serious.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > &

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Doc, Dr. Newton is a counseling psychologist, bestselling author and 
> hypnotherapist whose specialty is research into lives between lives. I've 
> only read his book Destiny of Souls but a dear friend had a session when he 
> was traveling in CA years ago. 
> 
> 
> In bringing up Dr. Newton's work I was addressing Seraphita's idea of 
> Meritocracy being projected onto the cosmos. According to Dr. Newton it is 
> the soul which decides whether to have an easy or more challenging life and 
> evidently the soul often understands the wisdom of either choice. Sometimes 
> an easy life is chosen simply to rest between 2 difficult lives. His book 
> contains dozens of case studies.

Hee, hee, ho, ho, ha, ha. Case studies, hee, hee, ho, ho, ha, ha...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:59 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
>  
> 
> 
>   
> Hi Share - This sounds like this guy's fantasy - how can we choose other than 
> what comes next? Also, if a person can always choose the cushy side, what's 
> the downside to that? Is it a hidden test to look for masochistic tendencies? 
> I would rather learn any lessons during a cushy life, than an awful one. 
> Last, I haven't really found a life that didn't contain some hard lessons in 
> it, for each and every one of us. For one thing, no one gets out of here 
> alive.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Seraphita, Michael Newton, writes books about the bardo, what happens 
> > between lives, etc. He says that souls are able to choose whether to have a 
> > "learning lessons" life or a cushy life. That actually before we come in, 
> > we are offered a choice of 3 or 4 lives. And I like your idea of God as 
> > artist.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Seraphita 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:48 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Re the Theosophists' view I reference below "All of us are reincarnated 
> > over many lifetimes and each of us will experience what it's like to be 
> > rich, what it's like to be poor; what it's like to be respected, what it's 
> > like to be scorned, and so on . . . including, naturally, each of us will 
> > have some of our lives as women and other lives as men.":
> > 
> > This view of reincarnation has always seemed nobler - more worthy of an 
> > artist - to me: God is taking each of "us" on a universal tour to 
> > experience all the highs and lows of life. If the Advaita-Vedantans are 
> > right and "we" are actually the One Self pretending to be many different 
> > individuals then that accords perfectly with this interpretation of 
> > reincarnation.
> > 
> > The common view that if we're good, we earn a cushy life next time around 
> > is pretty vulgar really. And the more "spiritualised" version that we're 
> > paying our dues towards arhat status is really just the idea of meritocracy 
> > projected onto the Cosmos. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > >
> > > Charlie was definitely a believer in Theosophy. As I remember it( his 
> > > explanation), we change from one sex to the other every three 
> > > incarnations. The first incarnation of the opposite sex drags old 
> > > tendencies from the previous birth with it. The second birth in 
> > > that sex is more balanced,  while the third incarnation is more 
> > > of an exaggeration of that sex. The super masculine man or the super 
> > > feminine woman. So naturally, the next change, brings with it, 
> > > impressions from the previous birth which was exaggerated. This would 
> > > mean that all these experiences are natural for everybody to experience 
> > > from life time to life time. And of course, how we treat one another 
> > > going through theses phases of evolution determine our own fate. Do unto 
> > > others as you would have done unto you. Pile-on all of our other 
> > > karmas  and hang-ups and god only knows how it's going to be 
> > > expressed. Who knows why someone feels they are in the wrong body? That
>  could be
> >  untangling a
> > >  mess that you'll never figure out.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Share Long sharelong60@
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:43 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 
> > > years
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > Answer to your serious question: we shall see. As to your other comments; 
> > > on a more mundane level, it's clear that we all have masculine and 
> > > feminine aspects. For exampl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pfc. Bradley Manning sentenced to 35 years

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Seraphita"  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --
> > Or perhaps that attitude toward homosexuality is
> > all ignorant crap, and people are born gay because
> > *they* had that attitude in a previous lifetime,
> > and this time around need to experience what it
> > feels like to be discriminated against.
> >
> > Maybe that attitude is currently in the process of
> > diminishing because the straight folks alive today
> > learned that lesson in *their* previous lifetimes.
> > Maybe in another generation or so nobody will be
> > able to understand why it was ever thought that
> > there was anything wrong with being gay.
> >
> >
> Possibly - and I really do mean possibly - your are correct .
> One of the "problems" with homosexually I have had is that the male
> penis and female vagina are obviously "designed" for each other. The
> male-male-sex and female-female sex seem to me odd for that reason.

Only if you are viewing these 'tools', these organs as a means for procreation. 
If you need to get a job done then you look for the most efficient means to 
have that happen and a slender object that can fit neatly into an opening can 
be just the ticket but if you want to give pleasure or explore new 
possibilities then the tools don't really matter. Male to female suits a 
certain functionality but it doesn't fulfill every eventuality, every desire or 
whim.

> The situation is compounded by current ideas of neo-Darwinism. In this
> view every feature of human life is the result of an evolutionary
> advantage of the characteristic in question. Sounds plausible. But how
> then do you explain homosexual liaisons? The theories I have read sound
> completely unconvincing. A gay is far more likely not to succeed in
> transmitting his genes to future generations.

And how many miscreants (this is the second time today I have used this word, 
what's with that?) should never prolong their sorry genetic line and yet do so 
time after time? No, have it any way you want and procreation be damned.
> Maybe it is Nature and not God who doesn't "like" queers?
>