[FairfieldLife] Decline of FairfieldLife

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You know Mr. Hamilton, if we look at the past history of Fairfield Life, it has 
declined from as many as 4,000 posts a month to a trickle. Almost everyone has 
abandoned it, and it would appear you had a lot to do with it, by removing 
people you disagreed with. 
Rick Archer had made this an open forum, and you did not, you segregated people 
out based on your beliefs, it would seem under the pretext that messages 
violated Yahoo Guidelines.
Now you may notice Fairfield Life is now reborn on groups.io, about half the 
people previously on FFL moved there. I have not moved there yet. 
But perhaps you realize that narrowing the spectrum of what is allowable is in 
the end a somewhat tyrannical method of enforcing what you wish people to 
believe. But people believe all sorts of things, profound to inept idiocy. You 
cannot enforce what people think is true, even if it is dead wrong.
The content on this forum will disappear soon. Such is the nature of evolution.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield, Iowa to Rebrand

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 On Monday, June 10, 2019, 6:17:25 PM PDT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:
 
Radically Spiritual: Fairfield, Iowa. 




A Top City for Meditation
26 Square Miles Surrounded by Reality
Fairfield may be surrounded by reality somewhere, but what about inside the 
town and the university? The vast cacophony of conflicting spiritual ideas 
makes the place a hotbed of fantasy and discord. 
Spiritual ideas, along with political ones, make one of the primary reasons for 
discord in the world and communities. In such a situation, hypocrisy is the 
standard mode of thought.
Eclectic means deriving ideas, style, or taste from a broad and diverse range 
of sources. The TM movement in its official capacity in Fairfield certainly 
does not want that as it only want once source for its ideas.

Visit Spiritual Fairfield, Iowa..

Fairfield, Iowa rated the number one Top City for Meditation..

30 Top Cities and Towns for Meditation in America,

An article:

http://www.sonima.com/meditation/top-cities-for-meditation/


The Spiritual Heart of America

This spiritual aspect of Fairfield,Iowa, its larger eclectic spiritual practice 
community, is certainly a mature feature of the present day in Fairfield.




Taglines..


Fairfield, Iowa:




Cool and Current.


Rarified.


Where People of all Ages Can Feel they Belong.


A Community Filled with Great Schools.


A Town Where Opposites Attract


Sadhana and Good Works


Fearlessness Unbound


Utopian Vision and Search for Community


A Town Where New Age and Old Age Meet


A Deep Exploration in Freedom


Pluralistic and Moving Forward


We Put the “Corn” in Cornucopia 


A Place of Meditation With Revolution in Mind


Always Dynamic


Never Static


At Work in Adaptation


Phenomenal Forces at Work All the Time


Fairfield, Iowa, Where Harmony is not Static


A Place of Evolution


A Place Where Happiness is a Prime Objective


Fairfield, Iowa “Business, Art, and Spirituality”


Come Feel our Vibe.

...



Fairfield, Iowa: Rarified



A Community Filled with Great Schools. 




I’ve been surveying folks for re-freshed Fairfield taglines and I rattled off 
some of these suggested tag lines for the Mayor recently. He was quite open and 
appreciative of the range. This week I’ll visit some of the folks working on 
this and share these FFL links.   ...Other ideas?



"..Located in southeast Iowa, Fairfield is a tourist destination known for its 
large community of over 3,000 meditators, the creative arts, Maharishi Vastu® 
architecture, vibrant businesses, and an outstanding quality of life. 
Fairfield, Iowa was listed by Smithsonian magazine as one of the seven best 
small towns to visit in 2013 and by BuzzFeed as the second coolest small city 
in 2014."



Fairfield, Iowa 
-Phenomenal Forces at Work All the Time



What is going on in Fairfield, Iowa?  How is it going in Fairfield?  Anymore in 
reply I usually start off by confirming, “..We’re a bunch of 
Transcendentalists”, to contextualize what is going on here.  









The Fairfield,Iowa aspect of there being a larger more eclectic spiritual 
practice community, larger than just the TM story, is certainly a mature 
feature of present day in Fairfield. People evidently do come to see that and 
some are moving to Fairfield for this.







For those who think practically about an economic reality of 'tourism' that 
does come to Fairfield, Iowa this ‘branding’ as a communal exercise helps 
clarify our own thinking about Fairfield as a community and also helps in the 
sharing with others insights into Fairfield, Iowa as a place.    



Fairfield, Iowa-A Deep Exploration in Freedom


Fairfield, Iowa..Where People of all Ages Can Feel they Belong.



Fairfield, Iowa
 Never Static Always Dynamic



Fairfield, Iowa: Fearlessness Unbound




FAIRFIELD, IOWA -Pluralistic and Moving Forward


...Sadhana and Good Works


Fairfield, Iowa 'Utopian Vision and Search for Community'

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Howzabout, "Fairfield: We Put the 'Corn' in Cornucopia"?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A long time ago a friend of mine suggested "Fairfield -- Nowhere Else Comes 
Close," which at the time I thought was quite clever, but not likely to be 
adopted. Taglines are mostly a waste of time, I think. They are dreamed up by 
PR people and don't mean anything. I have recently spent time in Grinnell, IA, 
which for those who don't know, is the same size as Fairfield, about 90 miles 
northwest. Grinnell's tagline is "The Jewel of the Prairie." Well, you could 
have fooled me. It doesn't even have a decent restaurant.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Fairfield, Iowa -A Place of Meditation with Revolution in Mind.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"Small Town with Big Values" is great, but a lot of other towns use it in their 
promotion (Google it).


...Anyone have tagline ideas that are inclusive of it all?
from folks after Quaker Meeting.. Business, Art 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance of Group Meditation! Excellent well written Doug! Great start for a FRESH & look inwards via the dome experience to be more inclusive

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Advertising aside, it does appear the Superradiance experiment is actually a 
failure. Why not just cap it off and do something that is worthwhile in some 
other way?
Leadership is an important contribution, but there could be other reasons why 
people don't come. What is the level of fulfillment for people who do do the 
program, but for some other reason do not come?
What are peoples' experience of the techniques in general? When experiences are 
published, they are the cream of the crop, but what about the average joe? Lots 
of peoples' experiences of meditation and the sidhi program are not spectacular 
by any means. How do you entice them?

On Saturday, February 2, 2019, 3:01:47 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


Re: The Importance of Group Meditation! 

Excellent well written Doug! Great start for a FRESH & look inwards via the 
dome experience to be more inclusive..


In FF conversation.. 
"..Spiritual Evolution is a whole lot easier in a group. It will take a whole 
lot longer individually, to do this individually alone. It ‘takes a village’. 
When we do this together obviously you are the first beneficiary of it but you 
are also affecting the collective, our collective and also the larger 
collective.  So thank you for coming to Fairfield and the group meditation in 
community we do here." 




Yes, thanks for seeing this. . 


It should be important in the survival of the Dome meditation right now that 
any who have access to levels of the ownership in TM where policy is made could 
be copying and pasting points of this exchange below in to communication with 
those power people at the top. Engage whoever and wherever the power is vested, 
where the levers of power are.  Send ‘em a letter, mail, e-mail, imessages, 
facebook messenger, phone them, tweet them, however. 


The Dome meditation attendance numbers are in crisis. Month by month these 
numbers continue to dwindle. The metrics of this situation are foreboding. 
Numbers are dropping in a consistency by 10 and 20 a month for many many months 
now. This is not just an administrative problem but one of leadership. The 
recent month attendance numbers are not just lower but now hitting lows lower 
than they were prior to the beginning of the late assembly in 2006.  


There evidently is a core cultural problem in leadership of the TM movement 
that for a cohesion in survival of this community needs to be proactively 
addressed right now. Everyone’s help is needed on pressing this now..  


 Who has contact with, policy access to Dr. Nader? 

Dr. Hagelin: MUM President’s Office,  641-472-1260. presid...@mum.edu


 JGD, 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

EXCELLENT Doug very well thought  & presented in a respectful, &  loving manor 
with the past restrictive codes put aside, MOST REFRESHING!  To read & to see 
the compassion & love between the lines Doug!
The group meditation  & coupling it with the TM Sidhi program reduces combat , 
prevents wars & is most helpful for the health of the community at large.AGAIN 
THANKS in gratitude for your well shared KNOWLEDGE back up with Guru Dev Quotes


-Original Message-
From: dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
To: FairfieldLife 
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2019 7:59 am
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance of Group Meditation



...based on the non-religious Transcendental Meditation (TM) program,As strange 
as it may sound, when large groups of trained practitioners sit down on a daily 
basis to do this meditation program together, a powerful "field effect" of 
coherence and peace ripples throughout the consciousness of the surrounding 
population. The bigger the group the bigger the effect. The outcomes, confirmed 
repeatedly by extensive scientific research, are consistent and measurable 
decreases in war deaths, terrorism, and crime.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Dear Drs. Hagelin and Nader:
Now that the pundits are gone from Maharishi Vedic City, Iowa could you write 
the membership application guidelines for the Domes anew?
The old guidelines are yet too inflammatory towards superradiance as they are 
cobbled and wordsmithed.  Please sit and write with a new piece of paper a new 
and fresh Dome application guideline now for membership in the group programs, 
now the pundits are gone. Start with a fresh sheet of paper..  Get it down to 
simple: did someone learn the ™ programs and that this is what they will do in 
the group programs for superradiance. 
This would be a good time to just go in and gut, drop the clause from the 
guidelines that remains excluding from membership people who spend money on 
‘non-Maharishi’ jyotish and yagya. The earnest reason it was put in there 
originally evidently has gone away. It is time to just get rid of that clause 
in the membership application guideline. There is no sense now to having the 
office staff there investigating that one on people anymore. 
The pundit program 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 The Meissner effect results in a magnetic field being repelled in a 
superconducting metal. So what is being repelled with meditation? City-Data.com 
reports that Fairfield has more crime than 67.6% of U.S. cites and other 
reports indicate Fairfield rates a C+ for crime, 20% higher than the national 
average and 43% higher than the rest of Iowa. 
https://www.areavibes.com/fairfield-ia/crime/
Fairfield has the largest group of TM meditators and sidhas in the U.S. and 
crime is worse in proximity to this group, so clearly the program is not 
repelling crime, and this statistic is the one used to justify the program, so 
clearly the Meissner-like effect is a false analogy in relation to crime..
If anything is being repelled, it seems to be people who would like to meditate 
in the domes.
Amenities, cost of living, and education in Fairfield seem pretty good, but it 
is a lousy place to look for a job, for weather, and only fair for housing. 
Where I live the cost of living is high, but we have much lower crime, over 
FOUR TIMES LOWER than Fairfield, IA and 60% lower than the national average and 
almost no meditators are here. I left Fairfield, IA, a couple of decades ago, 
and am much better for it. The demographic facts indicate the Meissner-like 
effect does not work.


On Tuesday, October 30, 2018, 1:53:12 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


Nice unity sentiments, but the statistical fact as well as experience of 
meditators is that both proximity and numbers together meditating effectively 
matter to the Meissner-like spiritual effect in wellbeing on people.  The 
science well indicates there is a significant benefit to collective meditation 
in society. That is what ‘we’ were more essentially about in Fairfield here as 
community with the facilitating that has been the Dome meditations. It is an 
amazing facility that has been capitalized here. 

If one understands the science of the experience and its implication then the 
metrics of the aggregate numbers meditating together offer a tragedy here in 
how badly it has gone with the administration of the the communal collective of 
the group meditation. That is the story of the reading of this long "The Dome 
Numbers" thread. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

What we are meditating for in the end, is so there is no other, only the Self. 
Community is nice, but it is a more superficial view. Unity is not created by 
packing bodies in proximity, it can be done alone, in a cave, or anywhere if 
you have persistence. 
Packing bodies in proximity can have beneficial effects or detrimental effects 
(such as a mob) depending on clarity of experience. However you do it, taking 
care of your own experience first is foremost. If what you are doing is not 
working, then try something else.

 On Monday, October 29, 2018, 12:25:05 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


What we are
meditating for in the end is each
Other.

Sorry, I don't mean to preach here.

But if you would choose to join
With us in group meditation,
I would be personally grateful.

I think if we lose this fight, we lose
The war.

Help out.
Come back to meditation.

-Buck, in FF

12 Oct. 2010

http://invincibleamerica.org/


 > 
> "This is a critical time and a tremendous 
> opportunity for all of us. We cannot afford to 
> fall back from what we have accomplished so far.
> We need to sustain and build upon what we have 
> created over these past four years—and create 
> true and lasting invincibility for our nation and 
> peace for our world family." 
> —Raja John Hagelin
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Dome Numbers

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 What we are meditating for in the end, is so there is no other, only the Self. 
Community is nice, but it is a more superficial view. Unity is not created by 
packing bodies in proximity, it can be done alone, in a cave, or anywhere if 
you have persistence. 
Packing bodies in proximity can have beneficial effects or detrimental effects 
(such as a mob) depending on clarity of experience. However you do it, taking 
care of your own experience first is foremost. If what you are doing is not 
working, then try something else.
On Monday, October 29, 2018, 12:25:05 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     





What we are
meditating for in the end is each
Other.

Sorry, I don't mean to preach here.

But if you would choose to join
With us in group meditation,
I would be personally grateful.

I think if we lose this fight, we lose
The war.

Help out.
Come back to meditation.

-Buck, in FF

12 Oct. 2010

http://invincibleamerica.org/


 > 
> "This is a critical time and a tremendous 
> opportunity for all of us. We cannot afford to 
> fall back from what we have accomplished so far.
> We need to sustain and build upon what we have 
> created over these past four years—and create 
> true and lasting invincibility for our nation and 
> peace for our world family." 
> —Raja John Hagelin
> 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors Pass Large Hog Confinement Master Matrix

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The reductionism in linear fashion is simply the square root of 1% which I 
believe is Hagelin's formula which is based on analogy with super radiance in 
lasers. This in turn is loosely correlated with some comment Patanjali made in 
the Yoga Sutras.
What I think you are doing is trying to fudge the formula, which does not 
appear to work, so that it looks like it works. Fairfield, IA itself has a 
population of about 10,000. 
One percent is 100 and the square root of 100 is 10, so you only need 10 people 
or perhaps a couple of more for the local area doing superradiance. Certainly 
the sidhas in the area can manage that in spite of trying to make a post hoc 
adjustment to make it look as if the formula works.
It appears the formula really does not work, or if it does, the results are not 
to your liking. Frankly I think Maharishi used it as a ploy to get people to 
keep meditating and doing more advanced programs so they would progress toward 
enlightenment and not slack off.
When "nature supports" exactly how does that work, and who does it benefit? 
Just the person, or those near them, or everyone around in the area, even 
people who have never even heard of meditation?
It seems to me nature does what it does regardless, and that we have far less 
influence than we think, because we do not think clearly, don't have a clue as 
to the results of our actions even when we think we are performing "good" 
actions.
I am all for people performing actions that lead in the direction of 
enlightenment, which to me is the realization that our essential nature is 
consciousness and that everything is in fact consciousness. But that doesn't 
say a word about how that knowledge affects the environment, only that it is 
the knowledge that consciousness is the environment.
   On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 7:45:39 PM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


No, both your reductionisms are boil down in only linear fashion. The puny Dome 
and the fragmented Fairfield program halls (..eleven (11) program halls 
scattered around the County and also people off by themselves) as numbers are 
just too small for the dull weight they lift.  


The larger tragedy here is that apparatchiks of the Patterson-Morris-Maharishi 
era let the Dome numbers get so bad. Or that ill-disciplined good meditators 
like some.. abandoned their posts. 


Superradiance critical mass evidently happens with numbers in proximity. 
Numbers and their proximity is in the basic science from the beginning, like 
the Bible says, where gathered ..there is superradiance. That superradiance 
lives as a reality of spiritual practice evident in the science and by 
experience while the peer science is still good in principle as it is 
replicated. In doubt you seem trying too hard to disgrace those who are here 
and what is at hand in contending simple linear reductions. Quite instead, you 
all should be here meditating for all sorts of good reasons in life. 

Jai Guru Dev 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I was about to put up similar figures. The current estimated population of Iowa 
for 2018 is 3.16 million. 0.01% is 31,600  and √31,600 = 177.763888 which means 
you only need 178 people for program in Iowa.
So that means if more hogs in Iowa near Fairfield represent the lack of support 
of the laws of nature, then the ME formula is false. Alternately if the formula 
is correct, then the presence of additional hog farms represents support of the 
laws of nature for the greater population of Iowa, and not based on the desire 
of a small contingent community with contrary ideas.
Again, alternately, were the formula true, and more hogs come, the program 
itself must be faulty and not be implementing the effect.
Regardless of a small part of the universe, the whole remains in balance. You 
have (at least seeming) control over action alone, never its fruits. This point 
in the Bhagavad-Gita always seems to be forgotten.
Desiring a certain result and expecting it to always come true is known as 
spiritual materialism, and represents a lack of understanding of the nature of 
consciousness.


 On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 1:18:27 PM GMT, skymt...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:



As simple and hopeful as the ME theory sounds, from my calcs, it does not add 
up.  
Iowa has 3 million people.  Square root of .1% = 173. FF has 10,000 so 10 is ME 
threshold number for FF. From what I have read the low range of attendance in 
domes is around 400, which ME predicts should powerfully and positively affect 
across a much larger region, an area of 16 million.  The ME effects in FF and 
Iowa, one would expect from the ME theory to be extraordinary, after 30 years 
of constant practice in the domes of at least 400, much larger in some eras.  
The ME threshold is exceeded by at least a factor of 40 in FF, and a factor of 
2 - 10 for Iowa over the years. 
Yet FF and Iowa, on a comparative basis,  do not have exceptional crime 
reduction, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jefferson County Supervisors Pass Large Hog Confinement Master Matrix

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I was about to put up similar figures. The current estimated population of Iowa 
for 2018 is 3.16 million. 0.01% is 31,600  and √31,600 = 177.763888 which means 
you only need 178 people for program in Iowa.
So that means if more hogs in Iowa near Fairfield represent the lack of support 
of the laws of nature, then the ME formula is false. Alternately if the formula 
is correct, then the presence of additional hog farms represents support of the 
laws of nature for the greater population of Iowa, and not based on the desire 
of a small contingent community with contrary ideas.
Again, alternately, were the formula true, and more hogs come, the program 
itself must be faulty and not be implementing the effect.
Regardless of a small part of the universe, the whole remains in balance. You 
have (at least seeming) control over action alone, never its fruits. This point 
in the Bhagavad-Gita always seems to be forgotten.
Desiring a certain result and expecting it to always come true is known as 
spiritual materialism, and represents a lack of understanding of the nature of 
consciousness.


   On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 1:18:27 PM GMT, skymt...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     

Doug, 
As simple and hopeful as the ME theory sounds, from my calcs, it does not add 
up.  
Iowa has 3 million people.  Square root of .1% = 173. FF has 10,000 so 10 is ME 
threshold number for FF. From what I have read the low range of attendance in 
domes is around 400, which ME predicts should powerfully and positively affect 
across a much larger region, an area of 16 million.  The ME effects in FF and 
Iowa, one would expect from the ME theory to be extraordinary, after 30 years 
of constant practice in the domes of at least 400, much larger in some eras.  
The ME threshold is exceeded by at least a factor of 40 in FF, and a factor of 
2 - 10 for Iowa over the years. 
Yet FF and Iowa, on a comparative basis,  do not have exceptional crime 
reduction, or economic performance -- or any other measures that I can find.  
(And per the topic of this thread, CAFOs in Iowa have quadrupled since 2001, 
and are a growing problem negatively affecting the quality of life on many 
levels.) 
What are the effects of ME in FF and Iowa that are consistent with its 
predictions?    
And beyond lack of noticeable effects on crime and economy in FF and Iowa,  are 
there any studies indicating ME affects climate change? 
I wish the challenge of climate change was as simple as having groups of ME 
practitioners totaling < 10,000 worldwide. However,  given the above, it does 
not seem credible or plausible. Better perhaps, that people world-wide meditate 
and then act with clearer minds to transform our economies and cultures towards 
a thriving civilization with zero to negative (via sequestration)  greenhouse 
gas emissions  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paradigm Shifters: Science of Climate Wreckage & Meditating

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Some doubt is necessary to make intelligent decisions. Not enough, you are a 
sucker, and too much and you lose out. I am well aware of what spiritual 
practice in my life has and has not done.
Clearly meditating is not going to remove CO2 from the atmosphere. But would it 
result in people actually working on ways to remove it and to stop current 
pollution? People are working on this even without meditating.
Spiritual groups are prone to "magical thinking" which is just another way of 
saying you have impractical daydreams.
Your second sentence does not make any sense in terms of resolving climate 
change but relates to enlightenment, making hay while the sun shines. That is 
working to enlightenment, which is a different activity than fixing the climate.
The evidence that enlightenment will bring about desired changes is not nearly 
so convincing as true believers would have us think. It might be better to work 
on the problem from a platform of spiritual ignorance.
When you are ignorant spiritually, you fear things, and if you fear climate 
change, then maybe motivated to do something about it. If enlightened, climate 
change and the human turmoil surrounding it is just the next experience in a 
series of seemingly unending experiences in the field of experience 
(consciousness) and is just what is.
Because the individual is surrendered, the solution is in the hands of nature, 
so the question becomes what is nature going to do? Five or six times, life has 
been seriously compromised on Earth. Planets seem plentiful around stars, yet 
stars explode and destroy planets. Who you gonna call? 
You have control over action alone, never its fruits. That means even if you 
meditate, the result is not up to you. You do not even have control over your 
potential enlightenment, it is out of your hands.
Do I have to be concerned about climate change? The devastating predictions, if 
true, will come after this body is dead and gone. And now we have people in 
government, who cannot comprehend the vast body of scientific research on 
climate change. How would you expect them to understand the piddling small 
studies about consciousness and its potential relationship with human behavior 
and intelligence?

On Saturday, July 7, 2018, 4:08:41 PM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     




Some ‘in the mind’ intellectualizing may doubt the spiritual life for some lack 
of experience and may disrespect the effect of spiritual practice in life. But 
no, the question is not necessarily how could consciousness sequester carbon 
from the atmosphere given the face of the global climate change science but it 
quickly becomes what is someone, anyone, doing with a human lifetime while they 
have it as while resident in the human species for a moment while this species 
exists on earth? 

archonangel wrote :

While you are proposing meditation as a solution to this, you have not 
specified just how meditation will result in the desired changes. A paradigm 
shift does not explain how that shift will induce the desired result.
First, greenhouse gases will stay at current levels even if emissions are 
stopped, and no reasonable and practical way to remove the gases from the 
atmosphere has come forward.
Enlightenment means that you know you, and everything else, is unbounded 
awareness, but that does not solve the problem. Meditation seems to have a 
rather poor record for producing enlightened human beings, almost everyone 
seems to be trucking along short of the goal.
If the paradigm shift of enlightenment is so rare, how can you expect it to 
have an influence on climate? If you are ignorant and stupid, and you meditate, 
you stay ignorant and stupid for a long time even if you eventually succeed. 
Smart people often do not even appreciate the value of a meditation system, so 
those that could be the most useful in solving the problem of climate change 
often will not even be interested in sitting around in silence or practicing 
other kinds of techniques.


"Maharishi Mahesh Yogi went on a world tour in 1976 in which he inaugurated on 
all five continents the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment. Maharishi stated that 
the Age of Enlightenment was dependent upon nothing. He stated that it would 
occur whether we wanted it or didn't want it. He stated that 'Through the 
window of science' he could see that this was coming and that it was his 
privilege to be able to inaugurate its dawn in this manner."

So why do we have runaway climate change? It has been almost four and a half 
decades since this inauguration, and the human race still seems as ignorant and 
stupid as ever, even more so. The paradigm shift seems to be in the wrong 
direction.
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 2:53:24 PM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

 
Clearly, as we are in the face now of runaway global climate change live with 
urgency. Jai Guru Dev, 



..FW mail:
...In such a science-based and spiritual community 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paradigm Shifters: Science of Climate Wreckage & Meditating

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 While you are proposing meditation as a solution to this, you have not 
specified just how meditation will result in the desired changes. A paradigm 
shift does not explain how that shift will induce the desired result.
First, greenhouse gases will stay at current levels even if emissions are 
stopped, and no reasonable and practical way to remove the gases from the 
atmosphere has come forward.
Enlightenment means that you know you, and everything else, is unbounded 
awareness, but that does not solve the problem. Meditation seems to have a 
rather poor record for producing enlightened human beings, almost everyone 
seems to be trucking along short of the goal.
If the paradigm shift of enlightenment is so rare, how can you expect it to 
have an influence on climate? If you are ignorant and stupid, and you meditate, 
you stay ignorant and stupid for a long time even if you eventually succeed. 
Smart people often do not even appreciate the value of a meditation system, so 
those that could be the most useful in solving the problem of climate change 
often will not even be interested in sitting around in silence or practicing 
other kinds of techniques.

"Maharishi Mahesh Yogi went on a world tour in 1976 in which he inaugurated on 
all five continents the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment. Maharishi stated that 
the Age of Enlightenment was dependent upon nothing. He stated that it would 
occur whether we wanted it or didn't want it. He stated that 'Through the 
window of science' he could see that this was coming and that it was his 
privilege to be able to inaugurate its dawn in this manner."

So why do we have runaway climate change? It has been almost four and a half 
decades since this inauguration, and the human race still seems as ignorant and 
stupid as ever, even more so. The paradigm shift seems to be in the wrong 
direction.
On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, 2:53:24 PM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     
Clearly, as we are in the face now of runaway global climate change live with 
urgency. Jai Guru Dev, 



..FW mail:
...In such a science-based and spiritual community as ours, where we have had 
decades of frustrating experience in attempting to have other scientists 
appreciate the Paradigm changing research that was peer published in scientific 
journals about Transcendental Meditation and the TM Siddhi's Program, it is our 
hope that our professors and scientists, and community are willing and open 
minded enough to accept the validity of another Paradigm changing concept, that 
paradigm change being the imminent unstoppable near-term annihilation of the 
global human habitat based on copious volumes of peer-reviewed published 
research.



Paradigm Change: Runaway Global Climate


Arctic Ice Melt and the Paradigms Shift..

Interview with Conservation Biologist Dr. McPherson – Mankind Will Be Extinct 
in 8 Years or Less 
https://www.youtube.com/embed/Gh30Kx1o5lI?start=219=1426=3


FW:  ..here is a brief list of a few of the brilliant scientific minds of our 
time who totally agree with Dr. McPherson. I am sure some of these infamous 
scientists hold positions of credibility in your awareness. 

Frank Fenner (June 2010) http://jcsmr.anu.edu.au/about- 
us/honour-roll/frank-fenner

Malcolm Light (February 2012)

Louise Leakey (July 2013)

Richard Leakey (December 2013)

Neil Dawes (August 2013

Sir Bob Geldorf (October 2013)

Sam Carana (November 2013)

John Feffer (April 2014)

Noam Chomsky (June 2014)

Larry Schwartz (July 2014)

Ken Rose (July 2014)

Jennifer Hynes (August 2014)

Also


Paul Beckwith - Professor in climatology; working on Ph.D. in abrupt climate 
change (Department of Geography; 
Laboratory for Paleoclimatology and Climatology) at University of Ottawa, 
Ontario.

Biologist Paul R. Ehrlich - Professor of Population Studies of the Department 
of Biology of Stanford University and

president of Stanford's Center for Conservation Biology


Reply email:
Governors and Sidhas who are not taking Super Radiance meditation as important 
because most of them have been ostracized and disillusioned by the movement. 
And many of those who haven’t are not looking terribly healthy or sane.

With the Dome meditation attendance having fallen to be so low there is a 
serious questioning about the endurance of the Dome group meditation in 
Fairfield.  This Wedsnesday meeting becomes an important way post in the 
journey of the meditating community in Fairfield, Iowa.


Subject. Communal Meeting this Weds. 

 

Phoenix Rising Hall (Burlington and 3rd).

7:30 PM,

 

Maharishi Effect: Fact or Fiction?

 

David Orme-Johnson, PhD, a leading long-time scientific researcher in the 
Maharishi Effect, invites you.





FW email:

I don't feel climate change is (necessarily) scary. It can be sufficiently 
controlled mainly (not only) by higher Super-Radiance (SR) attendance. 

My concern has to do with Movement Governors and Sidhas who are not taking SR 
as important as it is, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paradigm Shifters: Science of Climate Wreckage & Meditating

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 SR has not even kept the Fairfield community together. As for climate change, 
a look at the graphs shows no effect from SR from 1975 to today.
It is a forlorn hope that SR can affect climate change. What you are saying has 
not been established scientifically except for a small core of true believers 
whose beliefs would not change even if presented with substantial contrary 
evidence. If there is real evidence eventually that would win out.
The mechanism of SR has not been demonstrated to the satisfaction of scientists 
who are not true believers. The scientific framework for making it 
comprehensible to them has not been constructed.
It seems to me at the moment that the TM movement is refocusing on getting new 
meditators because the SR communities are aging and diminishing. The glory days 
when Maharishi was alive are gone. It is consolidating.
There seems to be an effect when people meditate or do other programs related 
to consciousness are together, but what is it? How does it work? Movement 
explanations are not adequate and skip over multiple alternative possibilities 
to explain it. If the effect exists and affects the physical world, there 
should be a way to measure it directly (an SR meter?) beyond statistically 
dubious social research.
On Monday, June 18, 2018, 12:34:20 PM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


FW email:

I don't feel climate change is (necessarily) scary. It can be sufficiently 
controlled mainly (not only) by higher Super-Radiance (SR) attendance. 

My concern has to do with Movement Governors and Sidhas who are not taking SR 
as important as it is, not prioritizing it as much as they could. There is more 
power in SR than in the people doing the climate change, gmo, vaccinations, 
pharmaceuticals, and electromag, etc. 

Takes a lot of integration to see through.

Archer Anangel wrote : 

Yes there is some good science in meditation research, but seemingly there is 
not much.
Perhaps 1% of the studies meet the gold standard. So out of 700 studies you 
have seven that are really decent.
As the quality of the journal published in goes down, so does the quality of 
peer review. There are top-level scientists, mid-level scientists, and 
incompetent scientists. 
So peer review is a check on quality only if you have good quality reviewers 
and statisticians to check the math. Really bad quality journals are pay for 
play, and you can get published even if the study is highly flawed, and the 
paper may not get any peer review.
Meditation studies are a niche market within the field of consciousness 
studies, and are typically associated with various religious-based movements 
which are not the best mental platforms on which to implement impartial 
research.
Because most of the meditation research is bad, the baby is getting thrown out 
with the bath water.
Climate science is much more advanced and there is wide consensus that climate 
change is a serious problem if you ignore politicians and political views. 
Science on meditation is far behind in getting the kind of consensus we have 
with climate change. It is the result of a bad approach, using science for 
marketing rather than knowledge.
Promoting bad science in the name of meditation is like offering rotten 
vegetables in the market. If we like meditation and it benefits us, that does 
not give us the ability to evaluate the science. Subjective experience and 
emotion and the results of scientific experiments are often at odds.
The best we can say now is meditation looks promising but more research is 
needed. It is when non-meditating scientists in droves come into the consensual 
fold that meditation is good for something, then is the point when the case can 
be made.
This is not cynicism, this is the state of affairs. Meditation is great. It is 
for self-realization. If you are doing meditation for some other reason, you 
are already halfway to failure. Blame it on Western culture which does not have 
a good social underpinning for this kind of practice.


 On Sunday, June 17, 2018, 10:06:32 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 


Actually there is some lot of good science in it, meditation. Peer review. 
What? Like the global climate science, what, 'all the science is no good 
because some of the science is no good'? That is what the cynicism offers. That 
one title said that way in that journal is certainly evil,’Throw it all out 
because some is bad, poorly done’. This and someone saying it sounds so 
rational and intellectual except, like tossing in a Trumpism, the underlying 
assertion is simply not entirely true, a fake news headline in itself. 

Archer Angel writes,

It is great that there is an attempt to do research on TM, but TM and other 
forms of meditation has a very poor record as far as quality scientific papers, 
as this summary in Scientific American indicates.Meditation is essentially for 
self-realization/enlightenment. Promoting it for heath and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paradigm Shifters: Science of Climate Wreckage & Meditating

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Yes there is some good science in meditation research, but seemingly there is 
not much.
Perhaps 1% of the studies meet the gold standard. So out of 700 studies you 
have seven that are really decent.
As the quality of the journal published in goes down, so does the quality of 
peer review. There are top-level scientists, mid-level scientists, and 
incompetent scientists. 
So peer review is a check on quality only if you have good quality reviewers 
and statisticians to check the math. Really bad quality journals are pay for 
play, and you can get published even if the study is highly flawed, and the 
paper may not get any peer review.
Meditation studies are a niche market within the field of consciousness 
studies, and are typically associated with various religious-based movements 
which are not the best mental platforms on which to implement impartial 
research.
Because most of the meditation research is bad, the baby is getting thrown out 
with the bath water.
Climate science is much more advanced and there is wide consensus that climate 
change is a serious problem if you ignore politicians and political views. 
Science on meditation is far behind in getting the kind of consensus we have 
with climate change. It is the result of a bad approach, using science for 
marketing rather than knowledge.
Promoting bad science in the name of meditation is like offering rotten 
vegetables in the market. If we like meditation and it benefits us, that does 
not give us the ability to evaluate the science. Subjective experience and 
emotion and the results of scientific experiments are often at odds.
The best we can say now is meditation looks promising but more research is 
needed. It is when non-meditating scientists in droves come into the consensual 
fold that meditation is good for something, then is the point when the case can 
be made.
This is not cynicism, this is the state of affairs. Meditation is great. It is 
for self-realization. If you are doing meditation for some other reason, you 
are already halfway to failure. Blame it on Western culture which does not have 
a good social underpinning for this kind of practice.

On Sunday, June 17, 2018, 10:06:32 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


Actually there is some lot of good science in it, meditation. Peer review. 
What? Like the global climate science, what, 'all the science is no good 
because some of the science is no good'? That is what the cynicism offers. That 
one title said that way in that journal is certainly evil,’Throw it all out 
because some is bad, poorly done’. This and someone saying it sounds so 
rational and intellectual except, like tossing in a Trumpism, the underlying 
assertion is simply not entirely true, a fake news headline in itself. 

Archer Angel writes,

It is great that there is an attempt to do research on TM, but TM and other 
forms of meditation has a very poor record as far as quality scientific papers, 
as this summary in Scientific American indicates.Meditation is essentially for 
self-realization/enlightenment. Promoting it for heath and societal effects so 
far has not set the scientific world on fire. 
It does seem to impress people who know little about the nature of scientific 
research and who seem unable to grasp the difference between a scientific study 
and what they want to believe.
I think people benefit from meditation, but it is still not clear 
scientifically what it does.

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Compelling and Activating, 

the evident science research comes now also as Clarion call in life policy to 
meditators to come together in meditation practice of transcendence in groups 
and change the catastrophic future of mankind into Heaven on Earth. Everyday 
matters.


A: 

It is a fair descriptor, exponential. Graphs of so many of the variables within 
the long differential equation of rapid climate change show exponential growth, 
not just some linear changes since the 1870 baseline of the industrial age.. 
Coal burning, oil burning for internal combustion power, introduction of exotic 
greenhouse gases, melt off of polar ice caps, chopping down rainforests for 
palm oil production, 

These are exponential peer review variable in a long equation that some would 
want to wait on more and do nothing..(claiming untested assumptions?) for more 
research? The person writing email also makes a good human observation in 
expression about the limited capacity of some folks to think their denial and 
inaction about this complex compounded problem in only linear ways..  I feel 
the conservation biologists are doing a good job of having a rational 
conversation about this now in heightening awareness of something very complex 
that evidently can overwhelm a lot of people’s thinking.  


Archer Angel asks:

Q: What is 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paradigm Shifters: Science of Climate Wreckage & Meditating

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 It is great that there is an attempt to do research on TM, but TM and other 
forms of meditation has a very poor record as far as quality scientific papers, 
as this summary in Scientific American indicates.
Meditation is essentially for self-realization/enlightenment. Promoting it for 
heath and societal effects so far has not set the scientific world on fire. 
It does seem to impress people who know little about the nature of scientific 
research and who seem unable to grasp the difference between a scientific study 
and what they want to believe.
I think people benefit from meditation, but it is still not clear 
scientifically what it does.
Research on TM and Other Forms of Meditation Stinks


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On Saturday, June 16, 2018, 8:21:24 PM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


Paste:  

Compelling and Activating, 

the evident science research comes now also as Clarion call in life policy to 
meditators to come together in meditation practice of transcendence in groups 
and change the catastrophic future of mankind into Heaven on Earth. Everyday 
matters.


A: 

It is a fair descriptor, exponential. Graphs of so many of the variables within 
the long differential equation of rapid climate change show exponential growth, 
not just some linear changes since the 1870 baseline of the industrial age.. 
Coal burning, oil burning for internal combustion power, introduction of exotic 
greenhouse gases, melt off of polar ice caps, chopping down rainforests for 
palm oil production, 

These are exponential peer review variable in a long equation that some would 
want to wait on more and do nothing..(claiming untested assumptions?) for more 
research? The person writing email also makes a good human observation in 
expression about the limited capacity of some folks to think their denial and 
inaction about this complex compounded problem in only linear ways..  I feel 
the conservation biologists are doing a good job of having a rational 
conversation about this now in heightening awareness of something very complex 
that evidently can overwhelm a lot of people’s thinking.  


Archer Angel asks:

Q: What is "exponential science"? I have never heard of it.



Mail:  I have yet to find any scientist who understands exponential science, 
and who has an expanded consciousness capable of comprehending holistic events 
provide valid peer-reviewed scientific arguments contrary to McPherson's 
observations.


email:  ..members of Mother Divine and to Members of Purusha and every person 
who was close to Maharishi (MMY) confided in us that  foretold that the 
impending phase-transition from Kali-Yuga into full blown Sat-Yuga would occur 
between 2020 and 2025 at which time MMY said that chaos would reign in the 
streets of the world like a living nightmare too horrible to describe.  Oddly 
enough, MMY's predictions seem to coincide in time-space with Dr. McPherson's 
which in my mind provides a valence of creedence to McPherson's predicted 
time-frame.


reply email: Good luck to any serious, rational, science-based person trying to 
debunk the science now! There are more peer-reviewed journal hot links than one 
could click on and read through in a week!

P.S. The 69 Self-Reinforcing Climate Feedback Loops all with hot links start 
about half-way down the essay.

https://guymcpherson.com/climate-chaos/climate-change-summary-and-update/


wrote :

Maharishi would host/promote symposia to consider matters. Inviting speakers 
and papers. Conversation. Consideration.
Radical Change is happening Now: Rapid Climate Change
This needs wider platform for consideration.Think of the papers that could be 
given, the titles..A Conference program, published.. Presentations, 
Presenters...  Radical Transcendentalism, Phenomenology and Rapid Climate 
Change.

Iowa Farming and Carbon sequestration 
Greenhouse Agriculture in a Hot House
Public Policy and Transportation
Earth Science
Architecture and Global Warming. Designing for a warmer future. 
Civil Order in a Changing World. 
Global Economies and Meteorology, Changes in Iowa
etc., 
..a same kind of anti-science discredit they try to pull on meditation 
research. 

 ..



FW: emails:  reply: Yes, we know that the majority of scientists disagree with 
Dr. McPherson. 
This does not surprise us since we know that precious few if any scientists 
ever accepted Maharishi's scientific work yet we all know the validity of that 
body of evidence. I encourage you to do some personal research by peer reviewed 
published scientific research before you accept the unsubstantiated conclusions 
of others less informed and certainly less validated in their opinions . 
It is one thing to disagree with Dr. McPherson's hypothesis it is quite another 
to refute the peer reviewed and published scientific papers underlying his 
position.
"Three years to safeguard our 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Paradigm Shifters: Science of Climate Wreckage & Meditating

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 The Permian-Triassic extinction event was rather unusual. The Siberian Traps 
released a lot of volcanic gas into the air, and there may have been a 
meteorite event, both of these may have resulted in subsequent fires, but huge 
amounts of greenhouse gases went into the atmosphere. 
This is a lot more severe than the current industrial greenhouse gas event we 
are responsible for. The temperatures rose approximately 10 degrees Celsius (18 
degrees F.) as the best current estimate of what happened 242 million years ago.
Estimates of our current problem result in temperature changes of 1/4 to 1/2 of 
the Permian-Triassic event depending on how aggressively we control our 
emissions. This would presumably happen between 2075 and 2100.
Both the ancient scenario and our current situation is based on many untested 
assumptions.
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On Saturday, June 16, 2018, 1:45:24 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     
Mail:  
I have yet to find any scientist who understands exponential science, and who 
has an expanded consciousness capable of comprehending holistic events provide 
valid peer-reviewed scientific arguments contrary to McPherson's observations.


email:  ..members of Mother Divine and to Members of Purusha and every person 
who was close to Maharishi (MMY) confided in us that  foretold that the 
impending phase-transition from Kali-Yuga into full blown Sat-Yuga would occur 
between 2020 and 2025 at which time MMY said that chaos would reign in the 
streets of the world like a living nightmare too horrible to describe.  Oddly 
enough, MMY's predictions seem to coincide in time-space with Dr. McPherson's 
which in my mind provides a valence of creedence to McPherson's predicted 
time-frame.


reply email: Good luck to any serious, rational, science-based person trying to 
debunk the science now! There are more peer-reviewed journal hot links than one 
could click on and read through in a week!

P.S. The 69 Self-Reinforcing Climate Feedback Loops all with hot links start 
about half-way down the essay.

https://guymcpherson.com/climate-chaos/climate-change-summary-and-update/


wrote :

Maharishi would host/promote symposia to consider matters. Inviting speakers 
and papers. Conversation. Consideration.
Radical Change is happening Now: Rapid Climate Change
This needs wider platform for consideration.Think of the papers that could be 
given, the titles..A Conference program, published.. Presentations, 
Presenters...  Radical Transcendentalism, Phenomenology and Rapid Climate 
Change.

Iowa Farming and Carbon sequestration 
Greenhouse Agriculture in a Hot House
Public Policy and Transportation
Earth Science
Architecture and Global Warming. Designing for a warmer future. 
Civil Order in a Changing World. 
Global Economies and Meteorology, Changes in Iowa
etc., 
..a same kind of anti-science discredit they try to pull on meditation 
research. 

 ..



FW: emails:  reply: Yes, we know that the majority of scientists disagree with 
Dr. McPherson. 
This does not surprise us since we know that precious few if any scientists 
ever accepted Maharishi's scientific work yet we all know the validity of that 
body of evidence. I encourage you to do some personal research by peer reviewed 
published scientific research before you accept the unsubstantiated conclusions 
of others less informed and certainly less validated in their opinions . 
It is one thing to disagree with Dr. McPherson's hypothesis it is quite another 
to refute the peer reviewed and published scientific papers underlying his 
position.
"Three years to safeguard our climate"
http://www.stockholmresilience.org/research/research-news/2017-07-02-three-years-to-safeguard-our-climate.html

"..all in one summary essay on conservation biologist Dr. Guy McPherson's 
website, including links for 69 individual runaway feedback loops. This is the 
Clarion call for transcendence meditators to come together in groups and change 
the catastrophic future of mankind into Heaven on Earth. Everyday matters.
https://guymcpherson.com/ climate-chaos/climate-change- summary-and-update/
P.S. The 69 Self-Reinforcing Feedback Loops all with hot links to the peer 
review research start about half-way down the essay."



FW: Paradigm Change..the last week in May atmospheric scientists at: 
http://www.copernicus.eu/  reported a huge albeit temporary spike in Methane 
gas release in the northern hemisphere. This indicated to us that we may not 
even have 1-3 years before the 'preverbal SHIT hits the fan' as Dr. McPherson 
so aptly referred to what is about to unfold. 


FW email: "..Finally we must inspire and motivate those present that collective 
consciousness can and must 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Time Travel and Warp drives may be possible

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 If an electron can be observed as a wave or a particle, why does that mean the 
universe is not objective? The difference shows during different measurements 
at different times. Water can be liquid or solid at different times, but that 
does not mean it is not objective.
Campbell's ideas have not been well received by other physicists. A lot of 
people watch his videos, but unless his ideas are accepted on a wider scale in 
his own discipline, he will remain on the fringe as having interesting but 
unconfirmed ideas.
Because lay people really don't understand physics, having a large following of 
people who cannot evaluate what is being said is not confirmation on the truth 
of what is said. That does not mean we should not listen to his ideas.


On Monday, May 28, 2018, 4:58:15 AM GMT, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:  
 
     

Archonangel,
Here's a video interview of Tom Campbell explaining the double slit experiment 
showing the electron as a wave or a particle.  By extension, the experiment 
shows that our universe is not an objective reality since the results show the 
electron can be a wave or a particle.  If the electron path is measured at the 
slits, the electron will show as a particle.  If the electron is not measured, 
the electron will show on the screen as a defraction pattern, meaning it is a 
wave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hzSjnPikIU
For more explanation, please watch his other presentations in a seminar setting 
at the various locations, such as Spokane, WA or in Spain.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Archonangel,
You should watch Tom Campbell's seminars on YouTube.  In them, he explains 
clearly that the universe is not based on matter, but rather on information, 
which leads us to conclude that the universe is a simulation or virtual 
reality, like a computer game in a giant cosmic computer and shown before our 
own eyes, and we are participants of this virtual reality.  Campbell also 
mentions the erasure experiment which clearly shows that the universe data can 
be erased and we can experience the results with awe.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Physics is all about matter, quantum fields, gravitational fields are all 
matter.
In physics, a field is a physical quantity, represented by a number or tensor, 
that has a value for each point in space and time.  (Wikipedia)Consciousness 
does not yet have a definition in physics or in science in general; while we 
know we are conscious, this factor does not yet appear in physics. 
Science has no agreed upon definition of what consciousness is. All we know is 
there are physical correlates in the brain to our experience. 
Some physicists believe consciousness may be something different from matter, 
while others think consciousness is physical, but these are beliefs based 
largely on speculation because the answer is not known.

For one thing, if consciousness is not physical then it lies outside what 
physics can experiment upon, and thus it cannot be shown that the physical 
world is based on it.
Getting physics information from youtube.com videos is fraught with unverified 
speculations.
All this comes about by indiscriminately mixing physics and spiritual ideas.. 

 

 On Saturday, May 26, 2018, 3:48:50 PM GMT, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:


 

Brumah,
Physics experiments by researchers in academia have shown that the world is not 
based on matter, but is based on information or consciousness.  A good example 
is the results in the double-slit experiment.  As such, there may be some 
protocols in the future that can make these "fantasies" real.  The ancient 
Vedic texts have mentioned rishis like Narada to travel to "other worlds" just 
by mantra alone.  I believe that's what MMY was trying to do with the siddhis 
and the flying sutra.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Delusional infantile fantasy would be a more apt and accurate take on this 
childish nonsense, i.e., as far as "time travel" is concerned. Science fiction 
fueled by science fantasy; the contemporary world is awash with this type of 
nonsense.

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 On May 24, 2018 5:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:
 

  




Given the new scientific paradigms that are being set by scientists like Tom 
Campbell and researchers in academia, we're finding out that the universe is a 
simulation and is a virtual reality like a computer game in a cosmic computer.  
In essence, everything is based on information, like 0's and 1's in a computer 
program.  When the next genius, like Einstein, comes around he or she may find 
a way to program Nature to travel in time or travel in warp speeds.  From what 
I'm foreseeing,  objective science and materialism are not the key to 
understand Nature and the universe.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6a667085-b566-3296-8b08-872403f798d9/ss_the-us-military-released-a.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Time Travel and Warp drives may be possible

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 A single person explaining something does not mean it is correct. Information 
is a pattern in matter and as matter is equivalent to energy (Einstein), it is 
also a pattern in energy. On a printed page, or as electrons in a computer, 
information exists in the form of matter.
There is the reality of the senses, and there is the reality fashioned by the 
mind, which is a virtual reality in the form of thoughts.
If the reality of the universe is it is based on information, then this 
contradicts the Vedic view (and other spiritual system views) that the universe 
is based on consciousness. Pure consciousness has no qualities, it is 
completely simple and so contains no information. Perhaps it is there as 
potential.
Information occurs when complete simplicity is subdivided. How this happens is 
unknown. Vedic sources call it Maya. The idea here is if Maya can be lifted, 
the actual reality can be experienced and the virtual reality in the mind is 
canceled. The mistake of the intellect is removed.
There is always a paradox when everything is brought together because the mind 
cannot think except in terms of differences. But it is possible to experience 
beyond this aspect of mind.
On Monday, May 28, 2018, 2:51:20 AM GMT, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:  
 
     


Archonangel,
You should watch Tom Campbell's seminars on YouTube.  In them, he explains 
clearly that the universe is not based on matter, but rather on information, 
which leads us to conclude that the universe is a simulation or virtual 
reality, like a computer game in a giant cosmic computer and shown before our 
own eyes, and we are participants of this virtual reality.  Campbell also 
mentions the erasure experiment which clearly shows that the universe data can 
be erased and we can experience the results with awe.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Physics is all about matter, quantum fields, gravitational fields are all 
matter.
In physics, a field is a physical quantity, represented by a number or tensor, 
that has a value for each point in space and time.  (Wikipedia)Consciousness 
does not yet have a definition in physics or in science in general; while we 
know we are conscious, this factor does not yet appear in physics. 
Science has no agreed upon definition of what consciousness is. All we know is 
there are physical correlates in the brain to our experience. 
Some physicists believe consciousness may be something different from matter, 
while others think consciousness is physical, but these are beliefs based 
largely on speculation because the answer is not known.

For one thing, if consciousness is not physical then it lies outside what 
physics can experiment upon, and thus it cannot be shown that the physical 
world is based on it.
Getting physics information from youtube.com videos is fraught with unverified 
speculations.
All this comes about by indiscriminately mixing physics and spiritual ideas.. 

 On Saturday, May 26, 2018, 3:48:50 PM GMT, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:


 

Brumah,
Physics experiments by researchers in academia have shown that the world is not 
based on matter, but is based on information or consciousness.  A good example 
is the results in the double-slit experiment.  As such, there may be some 
protocols in the future that can make these "fantasies" real.  The ancient 
Vedic texts have mentioned rishis like Narada to travel to "other worlds" just 
by mantra alone.  I believe that's what MMY was trying to do with the siddhis 
and the flying sutra.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Delusional infantile fantasy would be a more apt and accurate take on this 
childish nonsense, i.e., as far as "time travel" is concerned. Science fiction 
fueled by science fantasy; the contemporary world is awash with this type of 
nonsense.

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 On May 24, 2018 5:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:
 

  




Given the new scientific paradigms that are being set by scientists like Tom 
Campbell and researchers in academia, we're finding out that the universe is a 
simulation and is a virtual reality like a computer game in a cosmic computer.  
In essence, everything is based on information, like 0's and 1's in a computer 
program.  When the next genius, like Einstein, comes around he or she may find 
a way to program Nature to travel in time or travel in warp speeds.  From what 
I'm foreseeing,  objective science and materialism are not the key to 
understand Nature and the universe.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6a667085-b566-3296-8b08-872403f798d9/ss_the-us-military-released-a.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Time Travel and Warp drives may be possible

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Physics is all about matter, quantum fields, gravitational fields are all 
matter.
In physics, a field is a physical quantity, represented by a number or tensor, 
that has a value for each point in space and time.  (Wikipedia)Consciousness 
does not yet have a definition in physics or in science in general; while we 
know we are conscious, this factor does not yet appear in physics. 
Science has no agreed upon definition of what consciousness is. All we know is 
there are physical correlates in the brain to our experience. 
Some physicists believe consciousness may be something different from matter, 
while others think consciousness is physical, but these are beliefs based 
largely on speculation because the answer is not known.

For one thing, if consciousness is not physical then it lies outside what 
physics can experiment upon, and thus it cannot be shown that the physical 
world is based on it.
Getting physics information from youtube.com videos is fraught with unverified 
speculations.
All this comes about by indiscriminately mixing physics and spiritual ideas.. 
On Saturday, May 26, 2018, 3:48:50 PM GMT, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:  
 
     

Brumah,
Physics experiments by researchers in academia have shown that the world is not 
based on matter, but is based on information or consciousness.  A good example 
is the results in the double-slit experiment.  As such, there may be some 
protocols in the future that can make these "fantasies" real.  The ancient 
Vedic texts have mentioned rishis like Narada to travel to "other worlds" just 
by mantra alone.  I believe that's what MMY was trying to do with the siddhis 
and the flying sutra.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Delusional infantile fantasy would be a more apt and accurate take on this 
childish nonsense, i.e., as far as "time travel" is concerned. Science fiction 
fueled by science fantasy; the contemporary world is awash with this type of 
nonsense.

Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.

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 On May 24, 2018 5:07 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:
 

  




Given the new scientific paradigms that are being set by scientists like Tom 
Campbell and researchers in academia, we're finding out that the universe is a 
simulation and is a virtual reality like a computer game in a cosmic computer.  
In essence, everything is based on information, like 0's and 1's in a computer 
program.  When the next genius, like Einstein, comes around he or she may find 
a way to program Nature to travel in time or travel in warp speeds.  From what 
I'm foreseeing,  objective science and materialism are not the key to 
understand Nature and the universe.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6a667085-b566-3296-8b08-872403f798d9/ss_the-us-military-released-a.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Where are the ETs in the universe?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

On Sunday, April 22, 2018, 8:22:36 PM GMT, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:  
 
     


Based on the Drake equation, there should be millions of civilizations in the 
universe that are intelligent to communicate with others in their light sphere. 
 Why don't we notice any of them?  It may be possible that they're more 
advanced in their evolution to understand the meaning of existence and the 
unity of life everywhere. 
It is very difficult to draw realistic conclusions from the conjectures of the 
Drake formula. 
Some research in the survivability of species indicates a species's lifetime is 
only about a million years, and the maximum density of a species might last 
slightly less than half of that. 
Other estimates are the likelihood of intelligent life on a planet in the 
'habitable zone' is about 1 in 60 billion. Adding to that how many species 
develop communication and send signals into space is another problem difficult 
to define.
The ability to detect signals declines four times with a doubling of the 
distance from us, and background noise at the same frequencies increasingly 
interferes with detection as the signal strength declines.
So, if we listen in for their signals, they may not have yet evolved as you 
say, or have gone extinct, or simply never appeared in the first place, and if 
they did, did they develop communication technology, and finally, are they too 
far away.

It may be possible that they understand their own individual self is part of 
the Self or Being that comprise the entire existence in the world.   On the 
other hand, there may be species out there, which have not yet evolved to 
develop science and technology.
In the Srimad Bhagavatam, it is written that Narada, a rishi, was able to 
traverse the universe to teach others of the Vedic knowledge.  So, if this is 
true, then there are other civilizations which have learned the wisdom from 
Narada and his disciples.  If so, they may have learned that the Bliss is 
everywhere in the universe and may have already understood us in their 
consciousness even before we met them.
The stories in spiritual tomes are often fantastic and metaphorical, and it is 
often impossible to determine if they actually happened. 
One of the interesting question would be how would a non-human conscious being 
with intelligence experience the world and understand the connexions? 
Even among us humans, we have dreamed up multiple scenarios for the nature of 
reality that seem largely incompatible with each other from life being 
horrendous suffering to unlimited bliss. Take the idea of pure consciousness.. 
Described as having no qualities, it could not therefore be bliss. Knowing 
bliss and being able to differentiate it from suffering would require something 
more. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBVUdEQXvmc

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendentalist power! Now!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 On Thursday, December 21, 2017, 11:42:05 AM GMT, he...@hotmail.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:
 
 
     
Re Handel: when he composed Messiah, I believe he'd been living in 
London, England next to nothing short of 30 yrs? YES
But he premiered the piece in Dublin. Later on there were London performances. 
Depending on what singers were available he rewrote songs, so there are 
multiple versions of Messiah. There is one that is for male voices only (in 
1751), probably performed in a church.
"By 1741, when he composed “Messiah”, Italian opera was out of favour and his 
fortunes were on the wane. An old friend, the musician Matthew Dubourg, 
arranged for him to be invited to Dublin by three charitable societies, for a 
series of six concerts."

"Handel arrived in November 1741 and took rooms at 26 Lower Abbey Street. He 
gathered an orchestra and chorus, mainly from the city’s two cathedrals and 
worked with them on “Messiah”. Public rehearsals generated great interest: the 
notice for the first performance urged ladies not to wear hoops and gentlemen 
to “come without their swords” to save space. With Handel both conducting and 
playing an organ, the Dublin audience expressed its 'exquisite delight'."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendentalist power! Now!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Handel's Messiah was originally performed in Dublin, Ireland around Easter 
time. It was designed as a concert piece. Many back then objected to it being 
sung by theater people. Somehow the work has become associated more with 
Christmas than Easter.
As for singing, "The Lord" is two syllables and "The Transcendent" is four, so 
it would not fit the music Handel wrote, and despite his strong German accent, 
he normally knew precisely how to render English words musically.
There is a spot in one of the songs however where he did put an unusual accent 
on the word incorruptible, putting the accent on the "ti" which most conductors 
try to fix.
Are you in God consciousness or something? You seem to put a lot of stress on 
religiously oriented values here.
>From what I can tell, this group originally had a rather wide range of views 
>from atheism to strong believers in Maharishi's offerings.
On Wednesday, December 20, 2017, 1:21:37 PM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


Good point. ‘Transcendent’ peace would work.


This last week we had a sing-along of Handel's Messiah in Fairfield

and I sat there singing through the libretto wondering how

it sings as a Transcendentalist might sing it.

The paraphrase pops a meaning out right away

in to a more contemporary ‘spiritual but-not religious’  vernacular.

Start right from the beginning substituting ‘Transcendent’ for ‘The Lord’.

It works in meaning very well. A lot of times ‘The Lord’ is sung inside tied 
notes

where ‘the Transcendent’ substituted works fine in high lighting a deeper 
meaning. 

Substituting in paraphrase..
How beautiful are they who preach The Transcendent peace, and bring glad 
tidings of good things.

It puts a whole 'nother level of meaning and also a sympathetic context of 
those teachers of Transcendentalism, like TM initiators or to mystics who come 
seemingly as avatars.  Though whole sections of the original libretto wander 
through some other theology otherwise the switch makes for a good spiritual 
reading/ sing through of The Messiah. 
#

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"Transcendence of peace" means to go beyond peace, I am not sure that is what 
you meant. It would mean peace is bypassed. 
The might mean the absence of peace or it could mean something beyond peace and 
non-peace, but not peace itself. 
It could also mean one transcends non-peace, and somehow gains peace, but the 
word order is ambiguous as removing non-peace might be neither peace nor its 
opposite.
Until enlightenment, expressed as "The Transcendent," this terminology 
considers this goal as an object even though it is the subjective value of 
experience and not an object of experience, it is the value that contains the 
objects of experience and illuminates them (if you think of it dualistically). 
Transcendence is more like a verb than a noun. It implies passage rather than 
arrival. 
You pass beyond ignorance, but the removal of ignorance does not mean you are 
in a different place -- you are in the same place, but not quite so 
half-witted, seeing things clearly for once.
Transcendence as a concept is a stand-in word for the process of renewal and 
repair. The destination is always where you are and this never changes. 
Using transcendent as a noun implies one is at the bottom of the spiritual 
ladder, hopefully looking up to supposedly a better life. If still hoping for 
this, the point of it all is missed once again. Difficult it is to get out of 
this mental straight jacket.
Religion tries to maintain the straight jacket, while spirituality tries to 
break the mould so the nature of freedom and captivity become clear.
If you consider it from a unified perspective, differences pale, it cannot be 
thought because there is no subject or object, even if you were standing in the 
midst of a thunderstorm and being pummeled by hail, deafened by thunder and 
blinded by lightning.
And remember pride is the inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, 
merit, or superiority. "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit 
before a fall." You want to transcend ignorance but pride is an unfortunate 
by-product of ignorance. It is a crutch and shows lack of courage, lack of self 
reliance, a mask of puffed up self image.

 On Monday, December 18, 2017, 11:28:40 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:


 



| 
How beautiful are they who preach the Transcendence of peace, and bring glad 
tidings of good things.


 | 
 
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| 
Their sound is gone out into all lands,

and their words unto the ends of the world.

 | 
 |



Why do the nations so furiously rage together, and why do the people imagine a 
vain thing?

The kings of the earth rise up, and the rulers take counsel together against 
the Unified Field Transcendent, and against it's anointed.



Let us break their bonds asunder, and cast away their 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Transcendentalist power! Now!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 "Transcendence of peace" means to go beyond peace, I am not sure that is what 
you meant. It would mean peace is bypassed. 
The might mean the absence of peace or it could mean something beyond peace and 
non-peace, but not peace itself. 
It could also mean one transcends non-peace, and somehow gains peace, but the 
word order is ambiguous as removing non-peace might be neither peace nor its 
opposite.
Until enlightenment, expressed as "The Transcendent," this terminology 
considers this goal as an object even though it is the subjective value of 
experience and not an object of experience, it is the value that contains the 
objects of experience and illuminates them (if you think of it dualistically). 
Transcendence is more like a verb than a noun. It implies passage rather than 
arrival. 
You pass beyond ignorance, but the removal of ignorance does not mean you are 
in a different place -- you are in the same place, but not quite so 
half-witted, seeing things clearly for once.
Transcendence as a concept is a stand-in word for the process of renewal and 
repair. The destination is always where you are and this never changes. 
Using transcendent as a noun implies one is at the bottom of the spiritual 
ladder, hopefully looking up to supposedly a better life. If still hoping for 
this, the point of it all is missed once again. Difficult it is to get out of 
this mental straight jacket.
Religion tries to maintain the straight jacket, while spirituality tries to 
break the mould so the nature of freedom and captivity become clear.
If you consider it from a unified perspective, differences pale, it cannot be 
thought because there is no subject or object, even if you were standing in the 
midst of a thunderstorm and being pummeled by hail, deafened by thunder and 
blinded by lightning.
And remember pride is the inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, 
merit, or superiority. "Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit 
before a fall." You want to transcend ignorance but pride is an unfortunate 
by-product of ignorance. It is a crutch and shows lack of courage, lack of self 
reliance, a mask of puffed up self image.
On Monday, December 18, 2017, 11:28:40 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     



| 
How beautiful are they who preach the Transcendence of peace, and bring glad 
tidings of good things.


 | 
 
 |
| 
Their sound is gone out into all lands,

and their words unto the ends of the world.

 | 
 |



Why do the nations so furiously rage together, and why do the people imagine a 
vain thing?

The kings of the earth rise up, and the rulers take counsel together against 
the Unified Field Transcendent, and against it's anointed.



Let us break their bonds asunder, and cast away their yokes from us.



Friends;Transcendentalist pride, evidently in the long course of humanevents 
this is really important to humanity. Transcendental-ism.Certainly if only by 
our life experience as Transcendental-ists weshould all correctly and fairly 
feel strongly and rightfully so inthe -ism of Transcendentalism. With pride. It 
is time to sit up, tostraighten the back and hold our heads high in public 
discourse andtake back Transcendentalism from the fictions of utopia and 
thematerialism of ignorance. It is time for transcendentalists to takeback 
transcendentalism from those who would trammel on our sacred andunified field 
of transcendentalism. It is time. It is time tomeditate and then affect, 
unified and in field effect. N-squared!N-squared is the cosmic cry of these 
times. It is time fortranscendentalists to come up, close ranks and meditate 
once againtogether. The science tells us and our experience shows us. 
Stayclose. Proximity and numbers matter in this fight. I would begrateful to 
any who would join us in this. -Buck 




# Now,Om, Om, Om! The Pride of my Transcendentalism. In changing the 
publicdiscourse around the word Transcendentalism I should count progressin the 
war with some people here who are against Transcendentalismwhen we can have 
some of these real negativists come to ontologicallychange their own thinking 
and feelings about Transcendentalism and Beable to claim themselves as, 
Transcendentalists once again. Theworld should be much a better place and safer 
for with less hate forthe word, Transcendentalism and our own people as 
Transcendentaliststhen. We will never stop fighting until the nature of 
theanti-Transcendental negativistic thinking here is changed. “All weare saying 
is give Peace a chance” as so obviouslyTranscendentalism is the answer inside 
of everything in nature.Finding that 'change' begins within for everyone, even 
the FFLneganauts here, it is time to change some wrong thinking around theword, 
Transcendentalism and take it back for the pride of theTranscendentalist in 
everyone of us. 

-Buckin the Dome 




 In reclaimingTranscendentalism now, for a moment do feel in to the -ist 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is advaita-vedaanta falsifiable?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 I suppose that would be correct, the Higgs field and its mathematics is the 
hypothesis that is given to explain the observed phenomena. A field in physics 
is defined as a region in which each point in space-time is affected by a force.
When we observe the universe, it would seem everything is all part of one 
thing, that there is really just one field, but so far, no one has produced a 
provable mathematical representation of such a field.
We have all these separate fields which we have come up with in our minds, but 
do they really exist, or are they like the lines we draw between the stars to 
create a constellation, as matter of convenience?
We have quantum mechanics and relativity, but they are separate. And we have 
consciousness, and scientifically cannot figure out how that fits in either, 
the TM movement's attempts to snowball it all together notwithstanding.
"How does it all fit?" is a great game. Drives science, the seeking of 
enlightenment, religion.
We do not have a workable definition of consciousness for science. There is 
usual definition, "the state or quality of awareness, or, of being aware of an 
external object or something within oneself," which is subjective, or is 
surmised on the basis of behavior, but it does not give a clue to its intrinsic 
character as a measurable quantity. 
On Friday, December 15, 2017, 10:47:06 AM GMT, he...@hotmail.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


The correlates of consciousness seem to show, and can be measured, but they do 
not actually show that consciousness exists, 
--FWIW, that seems to apply also to, say, Higgs field, doesn't it?? 
The collision of protons, or whatever, createsrare(?) elementary particles that 
are predicted to be associated(?) with Higgs field??

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is advaita-vedaanta falsifiable?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 "Enlightenment" is basically tautological as knowledge/experience. It is 
basically "true" but that truth is trivial. It is like saying a dog is a dog.. 
To quote Nisargadatta, "There is no such thing as enlightenment, and the full 
appreciation of this is, in fact, enlightenment." 
There is a realization, but that realization contains no new information, only 
what previously has existed. A mistake in the mind is corrected but does not 
reveal anything that was expected because the mistake was just misperception of 
reality. 
When the mistake goes, nothing is changed, thus there is nothing to prove other 
than one had been an idiot, and your friends probably knew that all along.
Consciousness results in experience, but it does not show outside of your own 
mind. It does not exist as an objective substance, and thus cannot be detected. 
The correlates of consciousness seem to show, and can be measured, but they do 
not actually show that consciousness exists, only that certain factors 
correlate with what a person says is his/her conscious experience.
Pure consciousness described as having no qualities makes it somewhat a 
difficult target. To say we experience pure consciousness is probably wrong 
because it implies two consciousnesses. Perhaps it is better to say it 
experiences us. It would appear to be auto-informative of its own nature, but 
that does not provide a hook for investigation because there are no qualities 
to investigate objectively.
On Wednesday, December 13, 2017, 12:53:50 AM GMT, yifux...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


The answer is NO.  Pure Consciousness can't be discovered through the tools of 
modern science.  There's no objective proof for Pure Consciousnesws and no 
proof for It's 'non-existence.  If it's falsifiable, lets see the research 
paper (outside of the TM Org). PC can only be experienced for one''self.  LThe 
fact that you experience IT is insufficient evidence for IT's existence.

Similarly, lots of people experience visions of Jesus. So what?  Again, not 
falsifiable.

Re: [FairfieldLife] "Elders in Transition" moving...sale this weekend!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 There is a term called ideological immunity, and some sociologists think this 
is a factor in what holds communities together. 
Fairfield, Iowa, the meditator part, is basically based on a set of ideas. 
Ideological immunity means the ideas that help a community cohere are resistant 
to change in that population. 
If Fairfield were isolated from the rest of the world, this might work. But 
Fairfield is not isolated, new ideas, new forms of the same ideas filter in all 
the time. The TM movement itself is a variant of ideas primarily sourced from 
India.
Each generation seems to have at least a slightly different framework for 
understanding the world, so in an open society, where new influences come in, 
the old and younger generations will always be out of sync.
Those who hold the keys of power in an ideological based system always tend to 
resist change. That is the lack of flexibility, and flexibility is a key 
principle in SCI. The question is where do you bend to accommodate new 
thinking? Maharishi placed a lot of emphasis on "sameness of teaching."
"Sameness of teaching" seems to be a key point in the problem of Fairfield. How 
far does it reasonably extend? The smallest circle of sameness here would be 
the right start of the mantra, and this might apply to mantras too, but the 
evidence is, this is not quite as critical. 
So if the mantra is satisfactory, and the use is correct, and the person goes 
off and meditates without any further knowledge, what will happen? How much of 
the supporting ideology is required for enlightenment? Some of it, all of it, 
none of it?
The world has produced multiple systems for enlightenment, and some arguably 
work better than others, but it is not clear that the ideology of the TM 
movement is better than the others even if it were acknowledged that the 
meditation system of TM is superior.
Most people seem to have spiritual ideas that are a mix of various influences, 
especially religious ideas indoctrinated prior to learning meditation, so the 
ideology of a particular system is never "pure" in the minds of most of its 
practitioners. This seems to be where the problem always arises.
Like a blade of grass that bends in the storm, an ideological system has to 
have a method to evolve or it will break apart. The one part of TM that cannot 
be bent is the right start of the mantra. Anything other than that probably 
requires some flexibility, and more flexibility as you get farther from this 
core aspect.
I see the problem as this -- spiritual progress is a series of instructions and 
activities that free the spirit. The instructions are useful until the spirit 
is free, and then they are not needed. These instructions however tend to be 
regarded in total as "The Truth" rather than as facilitators to discover truth 
which in this case is beyond the mind's ability to understand, beyond thought 
and conceptualization.
Thus truth cannot be put into words, so the words that define the nature of a 
spiritual practice are in fact, not true, they are facilitators for discovery 
in helping the mind to stay on track in its day-to-day process of just letting 
go in meditation.
As a result emphasis falls from the right start of the mantra to doggedly 
maintaining that everything that surrounds this simple practice must be 
invariable, yet the practice itself, once started, is out of individual control 
-- take it as it comes. Therefore there is only one thing in the TM movement 
that has to be prevented from bending -- the right start of meditation. 
Everything else has wiggle room.
If meditation can be understood in the light of anything, then anything can be 
used to explain it. The explanations are not truths but metaphors to help 
stabilize practice. The truth dawns with the realization of enlightenment, not 
the explanation of it.
  
On Sunday, December 10, 2017, 2:36:57 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


Trending?  Earlier this year I had a list gathering of more than a dozen 
friends of the TM community here who have recently sold their homes and left. 
People who have retirement means. This is unsettling in that to have a viable 
community there needs to be critical mass available in people.  Studies by ISU 
of small towns shows that towns need at least 800 to have a viable sustaining 
local economy. One could worry for the Fairfield meditating community seeing 
the holes in the local economy when people with money resource move away. 


This was written about in another context as “Elders in Transition”...


“Within TM this trend is seen too as TM elders who facilitated the late 1950's, 
60's, and 1970's TM movement with Maharishi Mahesh Yogi have pretty much all 
passed away now, with their check-books gone too. There are some baby-boomers 
who are able and community minded with resources but they are fewer now too 
from the heady days of a large and popular movement of a few years ago. Some 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Personal Enlightenment

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 It is interesting how many enlightened persons seem to fall into what is 
considered bad behaviour. As a Zen master said, after good behavior, 
enlightenment is the next most important thing.
It would seem that people have different strengths of ego, and what is left 
after awaking reflects how much of that conditioning is left intact.
If you put this in religious terms, surrender to God is basically subjugating 
ego to an imagined greater source or ego, if you think of God as a person. 
There is a certain practical value in having a name, and some idea of personal 
space in order to navigate the world and deal with other people.
But when the world is the world and you are just a part, or you see "yourself" 
in terms of that whole, it really is not a person, its very abstract, there is 
no boundary between you the supposed person and everything else. Awareness is 
not a person, it is totally abstract. Pure consciousness is not a person.
If everything is seen in terms of pure consciousness, that is not the viewpoint 
of a person.
Your personal "space" is just perceived as lingering stresses. Your personhood 
is just a mass of stresses. That is why deep sleep is so restful because "you" 
are not there.
The less you are there, the more things flow and are relaxed.
I think the word "Self" is a bad choice for talking about enlightenment because 
anybody living in the state of ignorance will tend to think of it in personal 
terms, for they have no choice but to do so.
Buddha talked of there being no self. This is really the same thing as "Self". 
Confusing terminology. People do not want to give up their stuff, what they are 
attached to. But to have the universal you have to give up your stuff because 
the universal is not personal, its the opposite of personal conceptually, even 
though it, in a way, contains the personal values.
Advertizing enlightenment as something you can "add" to your personhood is 
probably a good hook to get people to start seeking, but at some point the 
limitations of this become evident.
If you get clear enough you mentally have to give up everything, all your 
opinions, beliefs, even the spiritual system that you follow, because it is all 
a dream. The spiritual system operates in the state of ignorance, so it is not 
true, it is part of the illusion you are trying to eradicate, rather it is a 
set of instructions to lead you to truth.
But the truth of the matter is the system is not the same thing as what is 
found.
When people get awakened, one of the things they discover is, it isn't all the 
things they thought it would solve for their life problems, although the 
opportunity to work on those issues properly now comes into perspective. 
Enlightenment is then putting the knowledge found with awakening to work in 
one's life. Integrating, assimilating it so it is lived rather than believed or 
hoped for.
In every spiritual system you see this strange hangover of cultural 
superstitions and beliefs, and if you can see through these, assimilating 
Brahman Consciousness, as the movement calls it, will go much more smoothly. 
Very few people come completely clear once they find out what it is all about.
This is particularly ironic because what is found out is nothing is new, you 
knew it all along, the truth of the matter was before you all along. What this 
means is you, the supposed person, did all these activities, believing all 
these things, meditating, and so forth, for years and years, to get to the 
point where spirituality actually begins. 
TC, CC, GC, UC are preparations for enlightenment. BC is where it starts. While 
you still might meditate, as stresses impinge on the body and mind every day, 
you are beyond techniques as far as further advancement. You are, like it or 
not, self-sufficient as far as what happens next. If you are lazy, you will 
fall back, you will not be given a pardon for bad behavior, you cannot on the 
personal level act with impunity.
Lesha-Vidya or Laishavidya, however you want to spell it, remains and it has to 
be dealt with. If at this point you feel there are no rules, the enlightened 
can do what they like, think again.

On Saturday, September 2, 2017, 12:15:01 AM GMT, yifux...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


Comments on

1. The personal individuality gets switched out of its central position.




[True, but switching it out doesn't eliminate it. There are notorious cases of 
egregious behavior among some probably Enlightened people, with abusive 
behavior continuing after E. We can conclude that a. such persons were not 
"really" Enlightened, or b. The switching out of individuality from its former 
central position (only an idea in the mind), is irrelevant when it comes to 
abusive behavior such as extracting sexual favors from (especially) females and 
some males, and  exhibiting egregious greedy behavior




Thus, though (1) is true, it by no means eliminates the "Personal" in 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Personal Enlightenment

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

On Friday, September 1, 2017, 9:44:42 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:  
 
     


The more essential transcendental meditation..


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The main problem with the idea of enlightenment being personal is that it 
isn't. 
The human sense of individuality gets switched out of its center position with 
enlightenment. It is really just an idea in the mind. 
All the things that get grouped together as "self" are really mental 
conditionings. While these conditionings never entirely go away, what is called 
somewhat ironically as "Self", the universal value of enlightenment, is really 
nothing like the personal idea of self. 
Enlightenment is about the totality. It is not about "you." Until Brahman 
Consciousness, experience is still fairly corrupted with the individual idea of 
self. 





  
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Jyotish Council's Tips for Eclipse

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A Shadow is a metaphor for fear. Fear is the loss of Unity, thinking we are 
separate from what happens in the world. Light is sucked out, blocked. This is 
for the ignorant. If "infinity is at every point," there is pure being 
everywhere, no shadows at all. You are trading in illusions. The Indian 
subcontinent has its own cultural superstitions. There are enough superstitions 
here, why import more of them? 

On Friday, August 18, 2017, 11:29:10 PM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

    

Hear AMMA’s guidance on what to do before and during the upcoming solar eclipse 
on August 21, 2017    http://www.karunamayi.org/homepage/

#

Dixon writes:

I'm Going Home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bblopcUcW6A



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Spiritually, according to particulars in astrological charts travel to the 
eclipse clearly ist verboten.  




I am staying inside and inward in Fairfield, Iowa for the eclipse. The 
configuration of the eclipse is particularly bad in one of our cases. Something 
about the sign of Leo transits, etc.  

However simply out of an intuitive sympathy with this feeling I am going to 
stay indoors and meditating inward at the Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge in 
Fairfield, Iowa for the length of the eclipse. Jai Guru Dev 




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


I ain’t going.   Will not. Should not, won’t. 

While I have been inwardly ambivalent whilst having fun figuring out the 
details of travel down to Missouri to the eclipse we just had two big time 
astrology and jyotish people separately contact us about the eclipse and charts 
after their seeing the travel memo to Arrow Rock, Missouri below. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


I’ve a long time heard that the sun will be darkened,

That the sun will be darkened in that day.

Oh, sinner, where will you stand in that day?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB0OHYyiDtg



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


The groups of Fairfield meditating Quakers and Fairfield folk artists are 
taking a picnic to Arrow Rock.   

Friends who are University staff are thinking of “staying home and being 
inward” on eclipse day. I expect them to ‘secretly’ show up counter to good 
jyotish advice in Arrow Rock for the incredible spread of food the meditating 
Quakers usually have after Meeting in meditation.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


I cancelled room reservations today that I made for Liberty, Missouri north of 
Kansas City.  I made the reservations months ago but figure now that the 
interstate heading up to Totality from Kansas City is going to be a parking lot 
on Monday morning.  
Arrow Rock looks like a better shot from Fairfield. 

A solemn darkness veils the skies,

A sudden trembling shakes the ground.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0tfgd4I7dU



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I've been listening to shortwave radio since I was around 10 years old, and one 
of my fave shortwave religious kook broadcasters is Brother Stair, the Last Day 
Prophet of God. His cult compound is in Canadys SC, just barely inside the path 
of totality. He's holding a special gathering for the eclipse.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Coincidence that the totality of the eclipse traverses the Bible-belt?

Repent sinners! Some will be on their knees. Some in lotus. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right now, the weather forecast is calling for partly cloudy skies along the 
path of totality in Missouri. I'm gonna keep an eye on it and figure out where 
I'll drive to. The best bet is a 13 hour drive out to Casper WY, but I'm not up 
for that. I may drive 6 hours out to Nebraska if it'll make for clearer skies.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A whole slew of meditators from Fairfield, Iowaare going to be right on the 
line of Totalityfor the eclipse down at Arrow Rock, Missouri. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Om, a question: Would staying inside your car 'indoors'with the doors closed, 
count as okay?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


JULY 31, 2017

Points regarding the Solar Eclipse on August 21

We have received several emails asking about recommendations from the Maharishi 
JyotishSMCouncil for appropriate activities during the upcoming solar eclipse 
on August 21.

Recommendations from the Maharishi Jyotish Council

1. It’s recommended to not begin important projects or special events on this 
day, as Nature will not be as supportive. The most life-supporting activities 
recommended during an eclipse are those which bring the attention inward. 

2. 

Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

As you must be aware, the dead weight of ideology is measured in bodies.

On Friday, August 18, 2017, 2:14:07 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

    


The critical need now is for numbers in proximity meditating.  This need in 
critical mass needs movement right now not the dead weight of rigid ideology 
standing still in the way. 


Our status quo ‘administrative state’ of the Dome numbers evidently is not 
working for reasons unacceptable by standard of what good could come of the 
group meditating.   
In the middle of tru-believer status quo is their own moral feeling that 
anything that came from Maharishi should not be changed and also a feeling that 
some people ‘made promises’ and should be punished or coerced by holding up 
their Dome badge status over them. These are moral rationales that like the 
grant-monitoring problem are unacceptable to the accord of natural law.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


A conservative view of the numbers problem is saying: “Materialism and 
ill-discipline on the part of some people in the meditating community is a 
likely part of this problem. By all the science one could infer the buck of all 
the problems is with all those spiritual loafers down in cafes sitting around 
when they could be in the collective of the Domes meditating.” 

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

About the collapse of numbers in the Domes meditating, it would be extremely 
politic right now to cut through this.  Make a separate policy document for 
admission in to the Dome group program for old movement meditators and 
initiators. Not with crafting exemptions but directly cut the guidelines down 
to essential of what it takes to administer a residence course or retreat.   
See that people have learned ™ and the ™-sidhis, that they don’t ‘work against’ 
the movement or would be otherwise disruptive, and simply request that they 
only practice ™ and the ™-Sidhis in the Domes.  Done. Short. Publish them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This needs extra-ordinary leadership right now to rally the meditating 
community to meditation.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It is time for the scientists to lead on this, to become leaders of movement. 
Dr. Hagelin and our other bona fide scientists with real degrees of study need 
to step up and lead on this holdup with the Dome numbers.  How it was done 
before which effectively destroyed the Dome meditation numbers was terrible and 
needs to be immediately remediated. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 


Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the simple 
and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge fees 
for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  


How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  


Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Rolling out the Dome fees.. 

Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 

Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The real problem is direct experience is not a belief. 
A belief is an interpretation of experience, it is not the experience itself. 
Spiritual awakening in not about belief in what reality is, but a more direct 
apprehension of reality, outside the confines of the mind's discourse. 
The problem arises when experience must be expressed verbally. This creates a 
secondary reality in the mind and when the mind is ignorant, it takes that 
description as real.

When this happens enough times, you have the situation found in most spiritual 
movements where activity is performed entirely on the basis of verbal 
interpretations, and as most persons in spiritual movements tend to be seekers, 
not yet having found what they are looking for, most actions in the 
organizations are fractured along the lines of that ignorance.
You have to tread carefully among such people. If the built up inertia is just 
too heavy, it might be best to take your practice elsewhere and bypass them 
rather than try to "fix" the situation.
If you really want enlightenment (which is highest first), seek that first and 
foremost with diligence. Remember you have to discover what it really is, what 
other people say to you cannot replace your good judgement. If you do not 
develop good judgement and self reliance, you will be at their mercy, and they 
usually have none. 
If your world of experience is not peaceful first, you are relying on a false 
promise of peace. Being with like-minded seekers is helpful at times, but not 
necessary. Guru Dev spent most of his time away from others. That came out 
rather well for him.
The enlightened are not true believers. They are done with that. If the ship 
that is guiding you is not working out, maybe you are just stuck with a bunch 
of blind believers. Abandon ship. No need to worry, the ocean is all around for 
all to experience, there is no lack, nothing is hidden.



On Sunday, August 13, 2017, 10:26:06 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

    


It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 


Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the simple 
and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge fees 
for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  


How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  


Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Rolling out the Dome fees.. 

Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to increase 
the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  Right now 
quite evidently this needs to happen.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Statistical Truth, The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Mr. Hamilton, reconciliation is not the proper word. Once rather simple and 
obvious effects are discovered, cataloged, and more or less explained by 
science, the more subtle aspects are often very difficult to sort out. The 
leading edge of any scientific discipline is rife with contradictions and 
ambiguous evidence.
Meditation is a difficult subject because there are some physical effects, some 
psychological ones. And a number of things about meditation are unknown. 
One of the greatest problems is meditation systems have "devotees" which have 
strong emotional ties to their discipline, and strong emotional ties and 
beliefs can override scientific processes because a certain result is desired 
rather than whatever the result happens to turn out to be.
Perhaps the best research would be done by those who do not care about the 
result of the research except that it follows rigorous scientific protocol.
Quite a number of philosophical points in meditation lore are really beyond the 
ken of science as they do not seem to be testable.
Meditation is a key technology in those spiritual circles that deal with the 
concept of enlightenment. The tool is for that, not for health or well being 
even if some of that is a byproduct. The byproducts of meditation are not what 
it is for; what it is for is to make possible the realization that 
consciousness/awareness lies as the ground of experience, and life is just a 
succession of experiences.
As everyone is conscious, that consciousness underlies experience would seem to 
be an obvious fact. It is, but it is too obvious, and the implication of that 
is understanding the nature of consciousness turns out to be a much more 
difficult difficult subject to investigate, for it seemingly has no properties 
that can be seen, felt, or measured directly. It is as if it is not there, even 
though on the basis of our experience we know it must be there.
Spiritual systems tend to elaborate on the nature of consciousness way beyond 
what is justified rationally. 
This is particularly true when spiritual systems institutionalize, and many 
different people with a wide variety of understandings get involved in 
maintaining the system. It is as if weeds grow up in the system and whatever 
truth was there to begin with begins to get obscured by this overgrowth.
This often happens even when the teacher, the central figure is alive. Not all 
teachers are really pure, and that defect sometimes leads to their downfall, or 
eventually to some subtle corruption in the followers, which then leads to the 
downfall of the institution.
My advice is to pursue the main goal, enlightenment, and only give passing 
notice to whatever else seems to be taking up people's attention in the system. 
Enlightenment is simple: you are awareness as is everything else. 
This is little to do with holiness, specialness, grand experiences, or health 
or world peace. You could be at death's door with illness and still know you 
are awareness, or in a foxhole in the middle of a pitched battle, and still 
know you are awareness.
Unity means there is no other. That means you do not have a relationship in 
unity, because there is only one thing, and you are it. Note this does not mean 
"the person" is in unity. The person is an aspect of unity, it is the unity 
that knows what the unity is. Your person is an object in the field of 
awareness, and the mind and intellect in the person has to come to terms with 
this.
Enlightenment is not about your personal life. The ego, while still existing, 
has to be perceived as not real, that you, the person, are not the center of 
attention, rather the whole is the center of attention, and your person hood is 
just like a chair, or a dog, or a TV-set in the field of awareness.
If this is not what you thought enlightenment would be, perhaps a body could 
get a job pushing burgers over the counter at McDonald's. 
But even there, there is the counter, a customer, your hands pushing the 
burgers and fries on the tray to the customer, all in the field of awareness, 
life just like for everyone else, but just that lack of knowledge that this is 
all what you in the largest sense are, means the activity seems to lack 
something and is unfulfilling, whereas just that knowledge, if you had it, 
would mean the same activity is just the unity maintaining its balance as 
wholeness.
It is all very simple, unspectacular. You gain nothing, but what you lose is 
significant. You lose the ability to fantasize that there are options to 
reality. The problem is people think there is an option or options other than 
what is happening now. That there is something better. It is when this fantasy 
goes away, that self realization has a chance to click over. 
The purpose of meditation is really to exorcize the unreal options the mind 
entertains about the experiences it has. They bubble up as thoughts, 
spontaneously, without our trying. Those thoughts tangle us up in unreality. 
Eventually the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Profile on Bob Roth in today's (6/30/17) Wall St. Journal

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I met Bob when he was 26. I have only seen him twice in the last 15 years or 
so, last time a couple of years ago, when he showed up unexpectedly at a party. 
I presume he is rather busy these days.

On Sunday, July 2, 2017, 6:17:32 AM EDT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

    
This is a remarkable ‘comeback story’ in cultural relevance for ™.  Some few 
savvy and capable old field ™ teachers along with Bobby Roth heading out to 
make ™ relevant again. Like some very few teachers in the later 1960’s fanning 
out to present and teach ™ around the country then. After some focused work and 
fruitful fortune meditating came to be right in the middle of things then. 
Bobby Roth and some of the people around him are remarkable beings in their 
vision and capacities in life this way.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ transcendental-meditation-for- everyone-1498842465
Transcendental Meditation for Everyone
Bob Roth, chief executive of the David Lynch Foundation, teaches transcendental 
meditation to a range of students, from elementary-school children to CEOs
Photo:  Chris Sorensen for The Wall Street Journal


By
Alexandra Wolfe
June 30, 2017 1:07 p.m. ET
Bob Roth knows his field sounds a little like “woowoo” spirituality, as he 
says. But as a teacher of transcendental meditation, he now works with a 
wide-ranging clientele that includes celebrities such as Katy Perry and Jerry 
Seinfeld, hedge-fund managers, inner-city students, prisoners and veterans. He 
has the same goal for everyone: to teach them the virtues of T.M., as it’s 
called—a practice that involves silently reciting a mantra over and over for 15 
to 20 minutes twice a day.

Proponents say that the practice reduces stress and raises self-awareness. 
Bridgewater founder and co-chairman Ray Dalio, a student of Mr. Roth’s for more 
than a decade and a donor to the foundation, is a believer. The practice has 
been “integral to whatever success I’ve had in life,” he says. “It makes one 
feel like…a ninja in a movie, like you’re doing everything calmly and in slow 
motion.”

Mr. Roth, 66, is chief executive of the David Lynch Foundation, a nonprofit he 
co-founded with the film director in 2005 that is dedicated to teaching 
transcendental meditation, particularly to at-risk populations, “to improve 
their health, cognitive capabilities and performance in life,” as the 
foundation’s website says. Some of its funds come from teaching courses to 
companies and individuals; a four-day training course costs up to $960 a 
person. The foundation has 60 employees in the U.S. as well as partners in 35 
countries.

In early June, Mr. Roth opened the nonprofit’s first office in Washington, 
D.C., where he says he is currently teaching a dozen members of Congress. His 
organization has also been participating in studies in prisons recently. In a 
study published last year in the Permanente Journal, 181 male inmates at the 
Oregon State Correctional Institute and the Oregon State Penitentiary in Salem 
either took a transcendental meditation program through the foundation or did 
nothing outside their usual routine. The researchers found greater reductions 
in anxiety, depression and trauma symptoms in the group that had taken 
meditation.

Mr. Roth finds an analogy in the sea. “The ocean can be active and turbulent on 
the surface, sometimes with tsunami-like 30-foot waves, but is, by its nature, 
silent at its depth,” he says. “The surface of the mind is the active, noisy, 
thinking mind—often racing, noisy, hyperactive, turbulent. But like the ocean, 
the mind of everyone is quiet, calm, silent at its depth.”

T.M. was developed in India by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, a physicist turned 
meditation teacher, in the 1950s; it gained popularity in the 1960s when he 
worked with the Beatles and other celebrities.

The son of a doctor and a teacher, Mr. Roth dreamed of being a senator when he 
was young. He started meditating in college at the University of California, 
Berkeley, after a friend suggested it as a way to relax amid the student riots 
on campus.

He was skeptical at first but soon became hooked. After he graduated in 1972, 
he started teaching meditation to children in inner-city schools in San 
Francisco. A few years later, he traveled to Europe to study under Maharishi 
Mahesh Yogi before returning to California to continue teaching over the next 
decade. In 1982, he moved to Washington, D.C., where he eventually met Mr. 
Lynch, the director of “Blue Velvet” and “Twin Peaks,” who had taken up the 
practice in the 1970s. “If you are a human being, [transcendental meditation] 
works,” says Mr. Lynch.

Contrary to what you might expect for a meditation teacher, Mr. Roth often 
wears a suit with a crisp white shirt. (More predictably, he has a serene 
demeanor.) He lives alone in New York, and in his downtime enjoys trying new 
Asian fusion and 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Statistical Truth, The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I was wondering just what kind of research might show up under "group effects 
of meditation."
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This search on Google does not search for only results from TM.


On Thursday, June 22, 2017, 12:22:42 PM PDT, Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


   
 
 
 


Comments below in text.

 
 
 
  

From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 4:39 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Statistical Truth, The Call to Spiritual 
Order,Rally Now to Meditation!



   
 
 
 


People ‘claim’ things like: 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome:

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That could be a solution, but as the number of "Sidhas" practicing in the Domes 
exceed the number required for coherence in Fairfield, why did that not provide 
the basis for continued success in Fairfield? 
If we take Kaplan's letter over a decade ago at face value, it would seem 
Maharishi did not even really know if this coherence effect would really work, 
as it seemed to be based on a rather loose association of a statement by 
Patanjali with a coherence effect in physics.
The maximum numbers were in the 1980s and everything has declined, including 
the state of the world from that point on, whereas if the theory were true, it 
should have improved, especially in Fairfield, more people would have come into 
the program and the world would have gotten better.
In spite of the movement's confirmation-bias tainted research, Fairfield, the 
star of the movement, seems to indicate the Maharishi effect does not exist in 
the form and extent that it is touted to be.
The point of meditation is it is an aid to enlightenment. Everything else that 
has been bundled with it in the movement has been an effort to make it 
attractive to people who probably would not otherwise meditate for the real 
reason.
It is an appeal to personal success and well-being, which is fine for 
ego-centric individuals, but enlightenment is to discover that everything is 
consciousness, and consciousness when unbounded is not personal.
Meditating for "World Peace" sounds great, and maybe that idea will make you 
feel good as an individual, but World Peace has not happened, and seems less 
likely now than previously.
Perhaps the Bhagavad-Gita is correct, that life is an unending battleground and 
that you need to achieve peace on the basis of your practice, but the battle 
continues unending, without letup, and you gain peace even amid ceaseless 
turmoil.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:32 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome:
   
    
The ending of the “grant” program funding. Old meditators cut loose as the ™ 
movement readies tooutsource US Meditation to India. The international ™ 
movement is announcing it will shift its funding resources away from propping 
the Dome group meditation in Iowa over to pundit programs in India.  Winding 
down the “Grant” program.. Financial support for the Invincible America 
Assembly had been coming in substantial amounts donated monthly by Drs. Howard 
and Mickey Settle. About two years ago, the International ™ Movement took over 
most, then all, of the IAA Grant funding, and has now announced it will step 
down its contributions beginning in September, to 22% of the $90,000/month it 
has been giving, by this coming November. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The movement should get out of the business of monitoring people.

FW:  Myth: People dropped off or were cut from the Grant because there was not 
enough funds, due to Howard Settle's business situation.  Truth: Not one person 
was dropped from the Grant due to reduction in Settle funds in 2013. Every 
single person who re-applied went back on the Grant. Julie Anne, who handled 
the Grant checks, told me this herself. But the 100 person drop overnight, and 
350 or more after that reduction, was primarilybecause of dislike or 
disapproval of the 'monitoring' system, and, the way that Bryan Lee et al 
conducted the lengthy highly formal meeting to introduce the 'monitoring' 
system (I had warned him what 'monitoring' would do, and also what that type of 
meeting would do, but was disregarded). It crippled Movement family and 
community feeling, what was left of that.  The reduction in attendance began 
ONE YEAR BEFORE the Settle funds were reduced. In August of 2012. Soon as 
'monitoring' started, after 17 nearly consecutive higher months, our attendance 
fell through the floor, and went down 12 consecutive months PRIOR TO the Settle 
fund reduction (then continued falling for 39 months after that, until 2 months 
up for October Surprise (then down 3 months in a row since then.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

‘Fixing’ the grant $ program and its monitoring? That seems like.. 'putting 
Lipstick on a pig’.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The Administrative State of monitoring..
The coloring of consciousness with fear by effect of meditation-monitoring in 
physical observation is antithetical to 'effortless meditation' in creating 
stress to the innocence of the practice.
 FW: ..refer to Maharishi's Commentary on the Gita, where he states, inter 
alia, at VI: 10, "the feeling of someone being around him or watching him may 
impede the smoothness of the process of transcending."  FW:This monitoring 
system is clearly in contrast to basic Program 

[FairfieldLife] Utopia

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I rather hate to post this, but these are the facts:
1972 World Plan as viewed from 2017, 45 years.1. To develop the full potential 
of the individual FAILED (but small percent of individuals?) 2. To improve 
governmental achievements FAILED 3. To realise the highest ideal of education 
FAILED 4. To solve the problems of crime, drug abuse, and all behaviour that 
brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. To maximize the intelligent 
use of the environment FAILED 6. To bring fulfilment to the economic 
aspirations of individuals and society FAILED7. To achieve the spiritual goals 
of mankind in this generation FAILED (but again, a few specks here and there?)
Why is this? "You have control over action alone, never its fruits."

Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Agency'

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is interesting. Neuroscience basically has found that the sense of agency 
in human beings is illusory, that everything is "controlled" by the laws of 
nature. 
Decision making takes places in the brain 1/2 to 7 seconds prior to the 
decision becoming a conscious event. That means there cannot be a conscious
The sense of individual self, the psyche, the ego, which coordinates the events 
in experience under the title of "me" is not an entity or an object but a 
mental category that packages the events of perception, the organs of action, 
the mind, emotions, and intellect as if they were somehow originated as a unit.
Self realization shows this supposed entity is not real even though it is 
nonetheless a factor in experience.
This supports neuroscience research various kinds of statements found in 
spiritual literature such as "acting in accord with natural law," or "Let Thy 
will be done," which represent the state of enlightenment where the ego is 
subordinated to the whole rather than attempting to subjugate the whole.
This happens effortlessly when the full nature of the whole is realized. It is 
the basic principle of activity during the practice of TM, which is a good 
introduction to how the mind can function without the involvement of the ego, 
which can be said to be a pretend self.
It takes many years of mediation for this quality of action to permeate 
experience, but also intellectual understanding of how the mind creates the 
illusion of a "me" is required to be able to recognize when those features of 
the mind grouped under the title of "ego" are functioning so the mind when in 
activity can reset itself of effortless functioning.
As the sense of individuality and uniqueness is deeply impacted in most people, 
it is not as simple a task as it might seem to have this distortion in 
experience dissipate, for ultimately "you" have no control over the process.



  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 10:40 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Agency'
   
    Freely willfully making conscious choice..The Greeks had previously 
believed humans had little agency, and that their fates were at the mercy of 
their many gods, who often acted according to whim and fancy. After their 
acquaintance with Iranian religion and philosophy, however, they began to feel 
more as if they were the masters of their destinies, and that their decisions 
were in their own hands.   
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20170406-this-obscure-religion-shaped-the-west
The Dome Doors open daily at 6:40am for group meditation.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Of course when one skims through something like this broadside below what pops 
out often is what is familiar or coincides with one’s own perspective.  In a 
quick read this was a ‘long and short of it’.. 

"You cannot sorrow for yourself when you have stemmed the sorrow of another. 
The great law of service works on faithfully for everyone.  ..The (spiritual) 
workers are blessed and in the measure that they have striven so Divine 
protection is around them.  ..; so that when the River of Life is crossed, you 
shall find marked upon you the sign of honour that shows that you were 
shepherds, and that the sheep hearkened to your voice." 
As the science is now more and more apparent it seems that those who would come 
to group meditations are doing good work for others in service to others, so 
like the Prince of Peace did in in Meissner-like darshan in his time. Happy 
Easter,  JaiGuruYou.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 For anyone who might be interested, I put this excerpt inthe Personal column 
of our local paper for Good Friday. It seems to me thatTraditionalism creates 
obstacles and obscures the more optimistic view from those who should 
receiveit… Extract from “WHAT DOESRESURRECTION MEAN FOR THE SOUL”, spoken by 
the spirit of the Scribe in theBible (Mark 12:28-34) through the deep trance 
mediumship of Miss Winifred Moyesat the Greater World Christian Spiritualist 
Circle on Easter Sunday, April 13th1941. "Thisis the time of resurrection; in 
the degree that you can sacrifice - then indeedit shall be Easter for you…  
"Youcannot sorrow for yourself when you have stemmed the sorrow of another. 
Thegreat law of service works on faithfully for everyone. Those even in 
theirdeepest sufferings can link up with Jesus the Christ and face the fiercest 
testunafraid, knowing that they shall never see death, but glorious life and a 
lovethat shall close every wound in heart and mind and body. "Thereare those 
who criticise, but when their body is no more, the consciousness ofopportunity 
utilised or of opportunity thrown away will come to them. But inthat next 
stage, God, in His great mercy, will send to them the teachers andthe leaders, 
and they will be seekers and will seek 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: [TheBecoming] Re: Spirit & Reincarnation

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The content as you say is not uninteresting, but there is a lot of it, and 
also, how you understand what you post is also a consideration. 
When we post things here, it shows our understanding (or lack of it) of the 
subject in the post, and this is what results in discussions, because people 
even generally in agreement often understand details differently.
I you just copy and post, no understanding is involved and the benefit is 
slight.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 7:27 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: [TheBecoming] Re: Spirit & Reincarnation
   
    
yup, Gulati seems un-reformed by yahoo-groups guidelines. I was sort of 
enjoying the spiritual substance of the posts but this is a yahoo-group 
mandated to be moderated by yahoo guidelines. In moderation I had given him a 
lot of rope. JaiGuruYou, Dug Jung-Un  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This is just SPAM
You are SPAMMING this Yahoo group, plus this content, which is not original, is 
just copied from other websites.
The Yahoo guidelines state that you should post ORIGINAL content. If you have 
something to say, say it and if you want to make a link to other people's 
content, then put in a link.
This stuff  you are sending here to Fairfield Life is also being sent to a 
couple hundred other people and groups if the addresses in the e-mail headers 
are any indication. It seems to be an attempt to get people to link to a 
particular website.
So I am asking the moderator here to block this poster (devindersingh gulati 
dgulh...@yahoo.com), after due consideration.

  From: "devindersingh gulati dgulh...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: 
 
 Take for example a very big scientist dies today and that means thatall that 
he had learnt, he might have read hundreds of books, he mighthave collected a 
lot of information in his brain, all that suddenlycollapses. And if you believe 
in rebirth, he takes a new birthsupposing, then all this information does not 
go with him, it is alllost. But what he had gained in the form of experience 
that remains. Andeven today the way in which he will react to his surroundings, 
evenfrom his childhood will bear the imprint of that experience because whatis 
important is not the information that is stored but the experiencethat is 
gained. And that is why in the law of evolution; memory of pastlives is 
deliberately taken away, because if it goes on hanging it willbe a burden for 
the further growth. What is retained is the experiencegained and that is never 
taken away. You may say this is samskaras butthis is more than samskaras. 
Samskaras are also the impressions whichare created at birth and various kinds 
of attitudes are also samskaras.But also what is received from your past 
births, samskara, is a part ofthat experience. What is important in any given 
situation for anindividual is the experience that he or she is gaining.The 
basic experience that one has to gain in life is theinterrelationship of body, 
life and mind. How they can be controlled,how they can be perfected, so that 
ultimately the Original Will canmanifest without obstructions. This is the 
fundamental thing to belearnt. All else is only instrument of it or helpful aid 
towards it. Onemay do hundreds of things but if this does not happen then one 
does notreally grow on the right lines. One goes on repeating on and on, 
onedoes not grow inwardly. To grow inwardly is to understand therelationship 
between body, life and mind and how they can be harmonized,how they can be 
perfected so that ultimately the Original Will canmanifest without 
obstructions. And if you take karma, any action thatyou are doing with this 
attitude, to learn out of the karma this, notmany other things which one can 
learn fundamentally, then in a shortertime you can attain to the goal. That 
again is a part of Karma Yoga.All yoga is shortening the time. As Vivekananda 
said, Yoga isacceleration of experience so that what can be gained normally 
withinhundred years can be done in six months’ time, in a shorter time. If 
youknow the real purpose as to why what is happening to me what am I tolearn 
from it and if you really concentrate upon it then one can growvery rapidly. It 
is like a gardener who understands how to allow theplants to grow, what is 
needed for the plants and you supply to theplants and they will grow much 
better.  The Life Divine – Book I – Chapter 
XXIIhttp://www.kireetjoshiarchives.com/audio-video/audio.php?category=rebirth-and-other-worlds=490
 

Gulati

 On Saturday, 8 April 2017 8:55 AM, "devindersingh gulati dgulh...@yahoo.com 
[TheBecoming]"  wrote:
 

  Our first will was to agree to enter into this game by which the 
DivineTotality can be manifested in the embodied individual. It wouldtherefore 
mean that our soul has a 

Re: [FairfieldLife] My Enlightenment Delusion - new book

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

O.K.
I had a lot of beautiful experiences. The rough stuff came many years later and 
I had to work it out on my own how to handle it.
It was really spontaneous and not triggered directly by meditation but other 
events, but clearly related to all I had practiced in the past.
It was as if a block had been dissolved, and all the dark was free to surface 
and flee.
I never however thought of it as "kundalini" as that word never really had much 
impact on my thought processes as concerned what was happening.
There was a point where it seemed I knew a few things others did not know, but 
fortunately that passed. It is hard to talk about unusual experiences, 
especially if the word "enlightenment" is involved, without being a kind of 
jerk.
Sometimes I think there should be a rule -- wait ten years or so after a cool 
experience before you blab about it to give time to assimilate it properly and 
give perspective.

   

   From: "'My Enlightenment Delusion' myenlightenmentdelus...@gmail.com 
[FairfieldLife]" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 9:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My Enlightenment Delusion - new book
  
    To me, a kundalini crisis is an overwhelming mind-body experience caused by 
spiritual practices. Many spiritual movements speak of the kundalini energy 
center and its role in enlightenment. It is a fairly common conception that a 
huge burst of energy from the kundalini center can create an overwhelming 
experience akin to mania.  I don’t think I ever heard Maharishi speak of 
kundalini, but I had conversations with other TM teachers about kundalini over 
the years. Here is a link to a transcript of Maharishi speaking about kundalini 
in 1968 http://institutespiritualsciences.org/blog_mmy/mmykundalini.php  Here 
is an excerpt from my book:The most scientific description of kundalini crises 
that I have found is in the 1992 book, The Kundalini Experience by Lee 
Sannella, M.D. Sannella interviewed people who had come through kundalini 
crises. He came up with 4 categories of experience: motor, sensory, 
non-physiological, and interpretive. As motor phenomena, Sannella listed kriyas 
and unusual breathing patterns. Under sensory phenomena, he listed tickling 
sensations, heat and cold sensations, inner light, inner sounds, and pain in 
the eyes, head, spine, or elsewhere. Under non-physiological phenomena, 
Sannella listed out-of-body experiences and psychic perceptions.As interpretive 
phenomena, Sannella listed both positive and negative feelings that could be 
experienced with much greater intensity than usual such as ecstasy, love, 
cosmic harmony, fear and confusion. He stated that the thinking process could 
be speeded up or inhibited. The mental experience could be detachment, 
hysteria, a state akin to schizophrenia, or the delusion of having been 
divinely chosen.Here are my symptoms which match Sannella’s descriptions: ●  
When my kundalini crisis began, I had tingling all over my body. It felt like a 
continuous, small electric shock sensation which was pleasant and exciting. ●  
I had extreme feelings of joy and thankfulness that seemed to be related to my 
thoughts that I was enlightened. When I had delusions about achieving even 
higher states of consciousness, I would subsequently be so ecstatic and so 
thankful that I would start to cry. ●  All of my feelings were experienced with 
greater intensity than usual. When I spoke, I spoke like a fire-brand preacher. 
My voice almost became raspy as if I had been yelling at a sporting event. ●  I 
thought I had earned a special relationship with God and nature. From: Archer 
Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:36 
PMTo: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My 
Enlightenment Delusion - new book   I am rather curious about this. What is a 
kundalini crisis? 
Some people do have trouble with TM's effects, everyone has a different nervous 
system, and some have problems, and the movement does not always handle these 
things well.  Unlike some systems TM does not have any real qualifications for 
starting. 
For example to study Vedanta you might be required at the outset to have:    
   - an open mind   
 
   - a reasonable mind   
 
   - a discriminating mind   
 
   - a dispassionate mind   
 
   - a disciplined, observant mind   
 
   - a sense of self duty   
 
   - forbearance, motivation, and devotion to the goal   
 
   - a certain level of critical thinking but not overly critical   
 
   - a temperament for overcoming obstacles   
 
   - a proper teacher and good fortune to have and find these
 TM lets in all kinds of people with few restraints, but as a result a lot of 
crazies get by who are not prepared for what can happen. The path to 
enlightenment is not all bliss. It can get very very gritty. I think a lot of 
people get in who have a lot of strange belief

Re: [FairfieldLife] My Enlightenment Delusion - new book

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I am rather curious about this. What is a kundalini crisis? 
Some people do have trouble with TM's effects, everyone has a different nervous 
system, and some have problems, and the movement does not always handle these 
things well. 
Unlike some systems TM does not have any real qualifications for starting. 
For example to study Vedanta you might be required at the outset to have:
   
   - an open mind   

   - a reasonable mind   

   - a discriminating mind   

   - a dispassionate mind   

   - a disciplined, observant mind   

   - a sense of self duty   

   - forbearance, motivation, and devotion to the goal   

   - a certain level of critical thinking but not overly critical   

   - a temperament for overcoming obstacles   

   - a proper teacher and good fortune to have and find these

TM lets in all kinds of people with few restraints, but as a result a lot of 
crazies get by who are not prepared for what can happen. The path to 
enlightenment is not all bliss. It can get very very gritty.
I think a lot of people get in who have a lot of strange beliefs and 
propensities that then go off the rails when they start having unusual 
experiences, or begin to experience heavy unstressing.
TM, while it talks of unstressing, it does not really prepare people for how 
intense it can be, and you need to have mental tools to handle what comes up.
I do not think most people really realize how screwed up they are before they 
start to meditate, especially if they get it in their bonnet that they are now 
on the fast track to enlightenment, they then presume too much about their 
progress.
A lot of meditators are still just close to being qualified by the criteria 
above after meditating for half a century.
That TM is easy to practice is deceptive in the sense that it alone cannot 
prepare one for some very strange experiences. That ease of practice does allow 
a lot of people to be taught, but a lot of concerns that can come up get swept 
under the rug, and TM teachers are not trained to deal with this. TM as a whole 
package is not customized enough to do this.
If you are fortunate you get through relatively unscathed, but if not I guess 
they end up like you!  From: "'My Enlightenment Delusion' 
myenlightenmentdelus...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 2:08 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] My Enlightenment Delusion - new book
   
    I just finished writing a book entitled, My Enlightenment Delusion: 
experiences and musings of a former Transcendental Meditation teacher. It is 
available at https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XS55JKC/ for $2.99. The first 3 
chapters can be viewed on Amazon by clicking on “Look inside”.  A large part of 
the book is about my kundalini crisis and also contains my conjecture about 
kundalini crises. I recount some humorous ups and downs in my life as a TM 
teacher. I explain why the similarities between grandiose delusions, psychotic 
mania, and kundalini crises are more than a coincidence.  --Matt Landing  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study Shows Brain Coherence When Listening to Vedic Pandits

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is very much in line with Fred Travis's research on brain coherence.
By the way, most anti-science skeptics don't know anything about science.
There is however a problem in that most spiritual types are anti-science 
because they do not know how science works, what the methodologies are.
They simply accept or reject results on the basis of it conforming to their 
belief in their system.
The best way to view results is to see how other scientists react to the 
research. 
While this gives a general appraisal of its value, it is not always a reliable 
indicator, especially if the research is controversial as it often is with new 
discoveries.
This research is interesting, but it does not reveal if there is a basic 
underlying mechanism.
Suppose the listeners in this experiment were listening to Mozart, or Bach, or 
to a recitation from a phone book, a recitation of Shakespeare, or listening to 
pink noise, or a recording of waves hitting a beach.
Would the results be different or the same? The issue of whether this is 
specific to Vedic recitation or a more general response was not addressed, so 
we do not know if Vedic recitation is the cause of this deeper experience.
The experiment should be redone with a larger group, and with more kinds of 
input.
I like Fred, and his research, but he is constrained by the MUM and movement 
environment which limits the tools he can use, and limits what kind of results 
can be published.
The reason I bring this up is I sometimes have experiences like this when 
listening to music, that is, certain kinds of music (not Indian). 
So I would scientifically hypothesize that the effect is more general than 
reported by Fred.
I doubt that Acid Rock would produce this experience, so the effect would be a 
bit more selective in that input that did not jar the nervous system would not 
prevent the effect from happening.
If there is more than one thing we could listen to that would produce these 
effects, it could be valuable to find out what they are, and adding them to our 
routine might speed up results!

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 9:46 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Study Shows Brain Coherence When Listening to 
Vedic Pandits
   
    And, even more research. Om Jeez, pity the anti-science skeptics and the 
uncomfortable with spirituality and meditational things with this piling up of 
more published science papers. One can see how this could be completely 
aggravating for them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Study Shows Brain Coherence When Listening to Vedic PanditsThose who have 
listened to live Vedic recitation by pandits often have experiences of deep 
inner silence, and now a new EEG study describes the coherent brain wave 
patterns associated with those experiences.EEG measurements on the 37 subjects 
while they listened to the recitation not only found coherence in their brain 
wave patterns, but that the coherence was actually higher than during their 
practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique.However, study author Fred 
Travis explains that all of the subjects had not only been practicing the 
Transcendental Meditation technique for an average of 34 years but had also 
practiced the TM-Sidhi program an average of 28 years. When he measured four 
subjects who practiced only Transcendental Meditation, they didn't have the 
same high level of brain wave coherence."Those who practice the TM-Sidhi 
program have cultivated the habit of sitting in silence and allowing the mental 
activity to easily pass through awareness," Dr. Travis said. "This provided the 
basis, I think, for them to profit maximally from listening to Vedic 
recitation."Dr. Travis analyzed the subjective reports of the participants' 
experience during listening to the recitation and found that their experiences 
were generally 1) deeper than during Transcendental Meditation practice; 2) 
experienced as an inner process; and 3) characterized by lively silence. They 
reported that they ''experienced a depth of experience rarely experienced even 
during deep Transcendental Meditation practice."EEG measurements showed higher 
alpha1 coherence, which is associated with the experience of pure 
consciousness. And they showed higher theta2 coherence, which is associated 
with attending to internal mental processes. The latter finding explains the 
participants' experience that the Vedic recitations felt as though they weren't 
external sounds but rather internal vibrations.Those who only practiced 
Transcendental Meditation had higher gamma coherence, with gamma being 
associated with focusing on an external object. Hence, their experience of the 
recitation as an outer experience.The study was published last month in 
Consciousness and Cognition. Coauthors of the study were Niyazi Parim and 
Amrita Shrivastava.  #yiv5226301746 #yiv5226301746 -- 

Re: [FairfieldLife] basis of morals

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A softer, sweeter way to punish people for their imagined religious offences is 
drowning in molasses. 
There is morality which has religious origins, and ethics which supposedly 
could give a secular spin to behavior.
The goal, or if spoken of in evolutionary terms, the result of greater societal 
coherence seems to break down in the following way --- lover (wife, husband 
etc.), family, extended family relationships, societal group (politics, 
religion and others), country, country allies.
This appears on the basis of studies to be a result of evolutionary unfolding, 
which is later codified as secular laws or religious prohibitions and 
permissions. Ethics involves finding a rational basis for such laws, while 
morality keeps the priests and their equivalents in business.
In watching animals, you see some of these effects, but you do not see morality 
or ethics, which is a layer added by the human capacity for thought.

  From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 1:40 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] basis of morals
   
    Atheists AronRa and Matt Dillahunty take on a caller questioning Matt's 
statement that adherence to reality is an asset when making decisions relating 
to well being.  The process involves correct knowledge preferably based on 
testable assertionsOther segments carry the Theist arguments to an extreme.  
Their arguments go like this:1. Atheists make a claim that moral values have 
evolved over time, and are thus not absolute.2. Theists reply that since moral 
values without God are subject to change, one needs an absolute basis for 
judgment coming for am All-Knowing, All-Loving Creator who is the Lawgiver and 
Source of Absolute morals.3. Atheists reply that a. the existence of the 
Creator-God is questionable since there's no direct evidence,.b. the 
problem of evil (especially the questions raised by Epicurus). c. the 
question of which God is "true" one.d. the Bible-based statements 
demonstrating that the Judaeo-Christian condoned slavery and 
.actually sanctioned it (Cf. Exodus 21), and also condoned and 
promoted stoning for a variety of .offences such as adultery, 
working on the Sabbath, and for unruly children.Can the debate be applied 
to TM? Yes, at least the TMO has tried to make the connection between the 
practice of TM and one's well-being.  Parameters such as blood pressure and 
brain waves are the low-hanging fruit and haven't countered the effect of 
control  techniques such as Mindfulness.Ironically, advances connecting 
meditation to morals have been made outside the TM Movement by people like Sam 
Harris; and a stronger case is made when introducing the evidence relating to 
the Polyvagal nervous system.  Finally, the TMO needs a stronger connection to 
Compassion, not merely a few lip-service statements by MMY. A 3 min 
video.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6ljqgf4CA
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Thanks. If one or other of the authors is still at MUM maybe you could contact 
them. 

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 11:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like 
Effect article published
   
    Yes, and apparently there are more papers coming to be published with a 
similar level of certainty based on publicly available public health stats.   
The 'replication' in certainty of their observations coming in to an aggregate 
as statistical fact seems to get more and more uncomfortable for some critics 
who may for ideological reason would like to believe otherwise, sort of like it 
seems for science-deniers in other areas of public policy and publicly 
available data sets. These papers on meditation will probably be available to 
read from other channels in time, places like Truth about ™ and Honest Truth 
about ™.  They are not in the farm journals I subscribe to. I will see who I 
run into around here as to getting copies that we can all easily read.   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

.. is there a published data set of dome numbers since the construction of the 
domes?
It would be nice to see. I am not disputing the possibility there is the stated 
effect, but that there are other correlations that are just as plausible such 
as safer cars.
The promotional PDF states, "For example, the reduction in motor vehicle 
fatality rates could not be explained by the total number of vehicle miles 
traveled, weather patterns, the proportion of young drivers, improved vehicle 
safety features, improved roadway conditions, or alcohol consumption."
But the promotional document gives no indication how those conclusions were 
arrived at. The paper needs to disprove these alternative explanations, not 
just dismiss them. Maybe they are in the full paper?
The federal government seems to think auto safety features are the reason for 
the fatality decline, which is the most plausible explanation.
There is also Journal Quality as a metric for published research.There is 
something called the h-index which is a metric used to evaluate this. The top 
Journals Nature, and Science, have an h-index of 948 and 915 respectively while 
the Journal of Consciousness Studies ranks 49, not very good by comparison, 
though some journals rank 0. 
Another ranking called SJR (SCImago Journal Rank) has Nature and Science at 21 
and 13 respectively, and the Journal of Consciousness Studies ranks at 0.25. 
These rankings indicate that poorer quality scientific papers get published in 
this consciousness journal, that fewer scenentists are interested in stuff 
published here. If you are a scientist, not very good, and want to be 
published, then you look for lower ranked journals to try to get published.
The journal wants almost $30 for a PDF of the full paper, which is only 
summarized by the PDF posted here. 
Does one of the scientists have a copy they could send you which you could 
post? They usually have these things on hand.
The Contribution of Proposed Field Effects of Consciousness to th...: Ingenta 
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Another point, Scientific Journals are not Scripture.
But continue to meditate. The byproducts of meditation, whatever they are, are 
not as important as enlightenment.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 12:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like 
Effect article published
 
 Observations and correlations about meditation and well-being were made 
throughout the last half of the 20th Century in published pilot research.  A 
rightly skeptical criticism of that body of scientific research conducted has 
been that much that was substantial was without “replication”.  The challenge 
in 'repetition' from a general decline in the teaching of meditation to new 
practitioners and the separation of many experienced practitioners from 
organized group practice of group meditations in the 1990’s and 2000’s was then 
obtaining repetition in that scope of research occurring previously in the 
1970’s and 1980’s in the shear size of those previous meditating groups to 
measure with controls.  This scale of size recurred again, occurring for a 
period of time running between 2007 and 2010.  
These published papers as hypothesis testing appear now as 'critical' 
replications in the correlation process of science. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

ArcherAngel, It would seem you could legitimately lodge your beefs on the 
research with the journals themselves and their peer review processes. It would 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Mr. Hamilton, is there a published data set of dome numbers since the 
construction of the domes?
It would be nice to see. I am not disputing the possibility there is the stated 
effect, but that there are other correlations that are just as plausible such 
as safer cars.
The promotional PDF states, "For example, the reduction in motor vehicle 
fatality rates could not be explained by the total number of vehicle miles 
traveled, weather patterns, the proportion of young drivers, improved vehicle 
safety features, improved roadway conditions, or alcohol consumption."
But the promotional document gives no indication how those conclusions were 
arrived at. The paper needs to disprove these alternative explanations, not 
just dismiss them. Maybe they are in the full paper?
The federal government seems to think auto safety features are the reason for 
the fatality decline, which is the most plausible explanation.
There is also Journal Quality as a metric for published research.There is 
something called the h-index which is a metric used to evaluate this. The top 
Journals Nature, and Science, have an h-index of 948 and 915 respectively while 
the Journal of Consciousness Studies ranks 49, not very good by comparison, 
though some journals rank 0. 
Another ranking called SJR (SCImago Journal Rank) has Nature and Science at 21 
and 13 respectively, and the Journal of Consciousness Studies ranks at 0.25. 
These rankings indicate that poorer quality scientific papers get published in 
this consciousness journal, that fewer scenentists are interested in stuff 
published here. If you are a scientist, not very good, and want to be 
published, then you look for lower ranked journals to try to get published.
The journal wants almost $30 for a PDF of the full paper, which is only 
summarized by the PDF posted here. 
Does one of the scientists have a copy they could send you which you could 
post? They usually have these things on hand.
The Contribution of Proposed Field Effects of Consciousness to th...: Ingenta 
Connect

  
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Another point, Scientific Journals are not Scripture.
But continue to meditate. The byproducts of meditation, whatever they are, are 
not as important as enlightenment.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 12:04 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like 
Effect article published
   
    Observations and correlations about meditation and well-being were made 
throughout the last half of the 20th Century in published pilot research.  A 
rightly skeptical criticism of that body of scientific research conducted has 
been that much that was substantial was without “replication”.  The challenge 
in 'repetition' from a general decline in the teaching of meditation to new 
practitioners and the separation of many experienced practitioners from 
organized group practice of group meditations in the 1990’s and 2000’s was then 
obtaining repetition in that scope of research occurring previously in the 
1970’s and 1980’s in the shear size of those previous meditating groups to 
measure with controls.  This scale of size recurred again, occurring for a 
period of time running between 2007 and 2010.  
These published papers as hypothesis testing appear now as 'critical' 
replications in the correlation process of science. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

ArcherAngel, It would seem you could legitimately lodge your beefs on the 
research with the journals themselves and their peer review processes. It would 
be interesting to hear their responses. 
You did notice and open in the original post on this topic that a pdf of the 
research was included?  As replication testing of hypothesis these papers seems 
significant, like to..
The probability that the reduced trend for motor vehicle fatalities could 
simply be due to chance was reported to be 3.7 in 10 million million and for 
fatalities due to other accidents, less than 8.4 in 1 million.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

There are other explanations for this outside the TM organization's universe, 
it is attributed to better vehicle construction, and now that vehicles are 
appearing that can sense potential danger, the drop in fatalities should 
continue to go down. 
Correlation is not causation. One of the problems of designing a study is 
making sure there are no other plausible explanations for an effect, something 
TM scientists are particularly adept at avoiding. 
Those years also included the beginning of the recession and included large 
fluctuations in gasoline prices, perhaps people also drove less as prices 
increased.
"Federal transportation officials 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like Effect article published

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

There are other explanations for this outside the TM organization's universe, 
it is attributed to better vehicle construction, and now that vehicles are 
appearing that can sense potential danger, the drop in fatalities should 
continue to go down. 
Correlation is not causation. One of the problems of designing a study is 
making sure there are no other plausible explanations for an effect, something 
TM scientists are particularly adept at avoiding. 
Those years also included the beginning of the recession and included large 
fluctuations in gasoline prices, perhaps people also drove less as prices 
increased.
"Federal transportation officials believe that much of the credit for saving 
lives in accidents goes to the enhanced safety systems that are now available 
in many automobiles."

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It would be nice if the TM effect could be studied under more controlled 
conditions, for if it is real, then scientists, not just those in the movement, 
would take notice.
As it is, these effects are not believed outside the TM movement. Outside the 
movement, movement studies are mostly regarded as poor quality science designed 
for the promotion of TM rather than the discovery of truth.
As long as this situation continues, the use of science this way denigrates the 
value of TM to this audience and ultimately undermines the purpose of doing 
studies.
Example: The fact I lived in the United States during this period and engaged 
in certain activities during this time not related to meditation also has the 
same correlation with the reduction of accident fatalities.
What were accident statistics prior to this period, when Dome numbers were 
often much higher, such as during the big courses in the 1980s?
I think meditation is valuable, but there are other factors in TM science that 
need to be eliminated before the research is solid. The quality of meditation 
research, even outside the TM sphere, tends to be low.  From: 
"dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 3:38 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Statistical Fact: new Maharishi Meisnner-like 
Effect article published
   
    In the postmodern one would hope that public policy could be enlightened by 
science. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

These published papers  are critical replications in the correlation of 
science. The statistical significance of a 8.4 in a million chance that these 
observations are just random should not be missed on people. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Attached is a summary of a new Maharishi Effect article, just published in the 
Journal of Consciousness Studies, January-February 2017, authored by Dr. 
Kenneth Cavanaugh and Dr. Michael Dillbeck. Please feel free to share widely.


"The study foundthat group practice of the Transcendental Meditation® and 
TM-Sidhi® program byparticipants in the Invincible America Assembly at 
Maharishi University of Management (MUM)was associated with a 20.6% reduction 
of US motor vehicle fatalities over thefour-year period 2007–2010. The rate of 
all other accidental deaths was alsoreduced by a total of 13.5% over the same 
period.
 
The study estimates that 19,435 motor vehicle fatalities and16,759 other 
accidental deaths were averted by the significantly reduced trendsin accident 
rates.
>From 2007–2010 thesize of the group was above or near 1,725 participants, the 
>size predicted tohave a positive influence on the US quality of life. This 
>predicted thresholdrepresents the square root of 1% of the US population."
A new Maharishi Effect paper has just been published in the Journal of 
Consciousness Studies, January-February 2017, authored by Dr. Kenneth Cavanaugh 
and Dr. Michael Dillbeck.
 
The Contribution of Proposed Field Effects of Consciousness to th...: Ingenta 
Connect
Keywords: TM-Sidhi programme; accidental fatality prevention; consciousness and 
collective behaviour; intervention analysis; motor vehicle fatality prevention; 
time series regression models
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Would AI Machines Voluntarily Go On a Mission to Go to

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

At our current speeds using the Pluto mission craft as a guide, it would take 
over 800,000 years to get there. 
Would you like to volunteer? You would have to make repairs along the way, as 
nothing we build as sophisticated as a spacecraft would last that long.
If you meditate---a lot---and get enlightened on the way, the fear of death may 
be overcome before the craft goes dark and the temperature falls below 400 
degrees below zero.
  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 1:56 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Would AI Machines Voluntarily Go On a Mission to Go to
   
    the Nearest Star with Habitable Earth-like Planets?
Yes, if they're programmed to do so by humans or their robotic creator.  It 
appears to me that a fully intelligent machine would not voluntarily go on such 
 a suicidal mission.  But it would have to be programmed to follow a greater 
task--to find intelligent species in the exo-planet and report the findings 
back to mother Earth, or a designated AI location to monitor these findings for 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Vying for #1 Spiritual Experiences..

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What is the definition of a Number One Experience? I have heard the term, but 
do not know what it refers to. Are there Number Two and Number Three 
experiences? Are these criterion written out somewhere?
According to Vedanta, experiential enlightenment cannot last because whatever 
experience one is having it is dependent on the nervous system, and that 
changes constantly. 
An awakening experience has to be converted into knowledge in the mind for 
enlightenment to be persistent or abiding. 
I do recall Maharishi saying Unity was on the level of knowledge. While 
knowledge is an experience, it is not the same kind of experience as a 
particular state as it is always available if needed.
The number of awakenings in the TM movement seem to be fewer than in some other 
spiritual groups, but there is never been a way to report such experiences in 
TM, they seem to be discouraged. 
And as the character of enlightenment is internal in the mind, who is going to 
be able to prove it anyway.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 3:19 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vying for #1 Spiritual Experiences..
   
    Some awakened olderTM’ers reflecting..

‘Number One experiences’, has become an unfortunate emphasis on a person having 
experiences rather than waking up. Combine that with no verification system and 
it has the making of getting people distracted while sitting in a place 
dedicated to supreme knowledge. They recognize the issue but have not found a 
solution yet.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance Of Group Meditation

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well, I am at a distance. Once I lived in Fairfield. 
I was experiencing some peculiar normalization that resulted in insomnia. 
Going to the dome, even living at MIU as it was called then, was problematical 
because of the weird sleep cycle. 
When I moved into town, I never went back to the dome, a deliberate and 
conscious decision, as it held no value for me. 
Being in the dome had no effect on my experience and thus there was no natural 
inclination to be there. 
I now have a better idea why that was the case. I have no objection to people 
who want to do group programs.
I actually prefer meditating with small groups of new meditators on occasion, 
but am naturally disposed to solitude.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 1:34 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance Of Group Meditation
   
    

Archer, from a distance view that is fine, your philosophical of ‘no-doing 
do-nothing’. 
Some of us live in Fairfield, Iowa, though, with this amazing facility for 
meditation that has just a couple hundred people meditating in it now. The 
question, (..what can be done?) is operational, what can be done in the 
community to better utilize the place by way of facilitating the meditating 
community that came here to meditate. Some damages clearly were done to a 
feeling of cohesion of the meditating community, what might the remediation 
look like to have more people meditating collectively again in Fairfield, Iowa?
Archer Angel writes:
..that nothing need be done.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Should we create a dispensation for the meditators who do not attend group 
meditation in Fairfield, Iowa? What can we do?  
One could correlate from what science that we do know about group meditation 
that a large part of the tense psycho-spiritual problems we collectively face 
is rooted in the absentee meditators living here, those who do not attend to 
the collective meditation of Fairfield, Iowa.  All those Art of Living people, 
the Oneness people, the Amma satsang and others. They seem to not care that 
they are given this opportunity, even at the weekday no-badge group meditation, 
and they make no effort. Those satsangs don’t even show up to meditate with 
others in collective group meditation as a practice where there is offered 
invitation.   It is like they have a spiritual aloofness, a type of arrogance 
that keeps them from doing the spiritual work. What can be done to motivate 
them to open their hearts to communal practice?-JaiGuruYou

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

In Transcendentalism, this becomes MMY’s great legacy along the line with 
George Fox or Jesus Christ "Where two or more are gathered..". This modern 
development, of natural sciences correlating with transcendentalism in modern 
time as the practical role of collective meditation, not only an individual 
experience is compelling in transcendental meditationism but now by virtue of 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's articulation there is the evident science of collective 
practice of meditation on the whole.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The evidence for the Maharishi Effect continues to mount up. Another 
compelling, new study came out in February of this year, again based on 
publicly available statistics. This is a scientific breakthrough that outstrips 
all others in its power to do good for ourselves, our nation, and our world.Jai 
Guru DevRaja John Hagelin

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

When a person waters the root of life, when they begin to experience the 
transcendental field of their own existence, which is the treasure house of 
inexhaustible energy, and intelligence, and harmony and bliss then that as we 
know gets infused into their lives and their lives become so much better. They 
evolve, they grow, and they start to live in such a way that automatically 
their actions are in harmony with the laws of nature. 

"The public are invited to experience some degree of the power of a group 
meditation,"


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

" Meditators notice that even in a group of two there is a greater settling of 
the mind, and this effect grows in accordance with how many people gather, says 
Colin. "Regular meditators have reported much stronger experiences of silence 
and bliss than they normally experience alone or in their usual groups of 2050 
people...The public are invited to experience some degree of the power of a 
group meditation," -explains TM teacher, Colin Beckley



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Right from the beginning of his movement, Maharishi predicted that even a small 
number of the world's population practicing his Transcendental Meditation 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Who painted the Holy Tradition image

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Francis Knight. Don't know when it was painted, but she revised it at some 
point, adding Maharishi to the painting.
frances knight - About the Artist

  
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  From: "X Y medinijyotishacc...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife  
 Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 2:25 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Who painted the Holy Tradition image
   
    Any ideas as to who painted the Holy Tradition painting widely used in the 
movement and when it was done?
http://www.booksontm.com/images/pic_holyyrad.jpg

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance Of Group Meditation

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2017 2:39 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance Of Group Meditation
Should we create a dispensation for the meditators who do not attend group 
meditation in Fairfield, Iowa? What can we do?  
One could correlate from what science that we do know about group meditation 
that a large part of the tense psycho-spiritual problems we collectively face 
is rooted in the absentee meditators living here, those who do not attend to 
the collective meditation of Fairfield, Iowa.  All those Art of Living people, 
the Oneness people, the Amma satsang and others. They seem to not care that 
they are given this opportunity, even at the weekday no-badge group meditation, 
and they make no effort. Those satsangs don’t even show up to meditate with 
others in collective group meditation as a practice where there is offered 
invitation.   It is like they have a spiritual aloofness, a type of arrogance 
that keeps them from doing the spiritual work.
What can be done to motivate them to open their hearts to communal practice?
It could be that, as has always happened, all these meditators, as well as 
everyone else, is simply functioning according to the laws of nature, and that 
nothing need be done.
Ignorance of the laws of nature does not mean the laws are not functioning, it 
only means that some are not aware of that.
The strife in life is caused by the mind not knowing, not because the laws are 
absent.
Everything is as it is, and thus thinking things are not as they should be 
reveals a lack of understanding.
It means the mind is acting from imagination rather than being grounded in the 
truth of the moment.
Spiritual work is done by the whole (the entire universe or whatever you want 
to call the whole, what Maharishi called the aggregate), not the part.
The purpose of spiritual work is to experience that expanse.
Ignorance is thinking the part can usurp the power of the whole, that the part 
is in control.
An individual human being is a part.
If a human being experiences the whole, he or she is not concerned, for he or 
she need do nothing, it is done for them, they know they are not in control, 
they let go, they are calm.
If they do not experience the whole, they may be concerned, but everything 
still happens out of their control.
That is the arrogance, thinking you can control what is out of your hands, not 
that people do not do what you would have them do because you have a mental 
stance "they are wrong."
An enlightened being is communal practice, for there is nothing about them that 
is not the whole.
The purpose of communal practice for the ignorant is to keep their seeking 
enlightenment from getting sidetracked.
But there are other ways to keep that focus, each according to his or her 
nature.
In a cave, cooking for the family, cleaning a house, taking a walk in the park, 
talking with friends, and even, meditating.
If you do not have to think about what you are doing even interacting with 
those who do cogitate their actions, you are in the hands of the laws of 
nature, meditating or not.
Take it as it comes. You do not have to be in the Dome, or in a church, a 
meeting hall, or other supposedly spiritual place to do this.
You carry the secret of the whole with you at every moment while wasting time 
trying to arrange the parts.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Consciousness Collapse the Wave Funtion?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I note that the TM scientists have never tried to measure the effect of the 
flying sutra in regards to gravity. It should be fairly easy to do. There seems 
to be an avoidance of doing any experiment that would conclusively demonstrate 
whether this effect is real or not.
On a macroscopic scale (the size of a bacterium, or a human body, or a planet) 
the wave function is always collapsed except under very unusual conditions, for 
example, helium near absolute zero.

  From: "he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 10:41 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Consciousness Collapse the Wave Funtion?
   
    
Just my two cents:
I feel like for instance the flying suutra collapses the wave function 
associated with gravity to the "wrong" direction...



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Consciousness Collapse the Wave Funtion?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

These examples also do not take into account that experiments have been done to 
eliminate human awareness making a choice, the choice as to what to measure 
being made mechanically by apparatus after particles are on their way. 
The same correlations occur, so the collapse of the wave function, and spooky 
correlation between particles does not require human awareness during the 
experiment, as yifuxero mentions below, no conscious observer.
To paraphrase Richard Feynman, we really do not understand quantum mechanics. 
We observe these effects but we do not know why it is that way.
Meditation does bring about unusual experiences, but no serious discovery of 
relativity or quantum mechanics has ever been discovered using TM techniques.
The kind of knowledge that meditation brings is of a different sort, and mixing 
that with physics is problematical to say the least.



  From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 1:34 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does Consciousness Collapse the Wave Funtion?
   
    Thxyour last statement on TM doesn't make sense.  Lots of things 
demonstrate consciousness.  You haven't given any evidence showing that 
(specifically), TM is in any way a superior mode of Consciousness as opposed to 
(say), a rooster observing the experiment and with his beak, making a 
choice.Even cockroaches can be observers, but they don't practice TM  Why does 
TM demonstrate a superior mode of consciousness as opposed to an experimenter 
not practicing TM?Besides, you haven't answered the question of 
times/places in which there were no conscious observers.  (then no wave 
function collapse).
Next, the Copenhagen Interpretation (which relies on conscious observers), is 
only one of several major Interpretations (at least 8), that rely on the 
concept of collapse of the wave function resulting from conscious observers.  
David Bohm's quantum interpretation has no need for conscious observers and 
states that the collapse of the wave function is simply an observation of the 
state at that time.Likewise, Hugh Everett's Multiverse interpretation doesn't 
need the collapse of the wave function.
Last but least, you can't dance around the entry posted from Wikipedia on 
Hagelin. His statements have little credit outside of TM "True Believers".  And 
talking about agendas, it's clear he has one, and it's not "the truth".  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] I think I'll move to that chair

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I have heard this story too, but in the version I heard, Maharishi directed 
that a camera be set up to run automatically, and no indication of there being 
a group around him. 
That is, the story is some people have been said to have seen such a video of 
Maharishi levitating, but those telling the story have not seen it. If there is 
an original source for the story, that seems to be lost in the retelling.
That this story seems to be in multiple versions could be an indication it is 
just made up. Back in the early days of the Sidhis courses there were all sorts 
of rumors, such as governors controlling the weather and so forth. My 
impression of governors coming back from these courses was they were not all 
that confident of their status as Sidhas.
So far there is no documented evidence that any of these stories are true.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I don't really have any better information but the story I read was that the 
Purusha who were recording everything on tape  inadvertently witnessed this. 
There was no indication in that story that Maharishi was aware of being on 
camera or wanted to be.

  From: "upfron...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 9:20 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] I think I'll move to that chair
   
      When I used to live in a 'TM Academy' (before thepowers-that-be decided 
to sell the English buildings) a friend, one of the ‘Perusha Governors’, told 
me that some of them (resident Perusha Governors) had been shown avideo of 
Maharishi lifting up and out of one chair and floating over to anotherchair and 
landing down in it. Is this something which should not be seen outside of 
thecorrect setting? Or, I suppose, the person who told me this could be wrong 
forsome reason  - however I see no reason whatsoever for someone in his 
position with hiscommitment to Truth to consciously voice anything but what is 
true. Does anybody have a valid comment on this aforementioned Maharishivideo? 
PS. Happy Christmas.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL trumped??

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This seems to be what is known about the hacks as far as what has been released 
publicly:
   
   - Russia orchestrated the hacking of the Democratic National Committee and 
other political organizations of the Democratic Party.   
   

   - Russia's hacks were aimed at helping Trump, according to the CIA, while 
other US intelligence agencies do not commit to this.   
   

   - Russia breached GOP individuals and organizations prior to the election.   

   
   - Republican House members.
   - GOP thought leaders. 
   - GOP non-profits.   
   

   
   - Some evidence the Russian government bankrolled "troll farms" that spread 
fake news about Clinton.   
   

   - Found digital footprints of individuals tied to the Russian government who 
had been on intelligence agencies radar before.   


There appears to be little evidence that actual voting was hacked leaving the 
influence of the information released and the influence of fake news as factors 
that could sway peoples' minds. 
There were also plenty of false and inaccurate statements made by the campaign 
participants themselves that apparently influenced people as well, so it is 
difficult to quantify how much this might have swayed voters.
Influence is a better word than stolen in this case. To steal votes would 
require that votes, say for Clinton, were transferred illegally to Trump in the 
voting precincts.
To steal means take another person's property without permission or legal right 
and without intending to return it.
The election of 1948 is widely regarded as the greatest upset of all time. 
Harry S. Truman, who had ascended to the presidency after Franklin D. 
Roosevelt's death, was given zero chance to win — his approval rating was 36 
percent. 
He'd come up through one of the most notoriously corrupt party machines of the 
time, and he’d been fighting a Republican Congress since 1946. Henry Wallace, a 
former vice president, broke away from the Democrats and ran as a "Progressive" 
candidate. 
The Democratic establishment launched several frantic "Dump Truman" efforts. At 
the convention in Philadelphia, a mass of southern delegates walked out in a 
dispute over a civil rights platform plank, later to run Strom Thurmond as the 
States Rights Party candidate.
It was all about the Republican-controlled 80th Congress, which Truman 
castigated for what it hadn't done. Truman promised to call the Congress back 
into special session in two week's time, on July 26, and he did. The 
Republicans blocked every measure Truman proposed, including civil rights, 
social security and health care legislation.
The Democratic Party had a severe three-way ideological split, with both the 
far left (Henry A. Wallace of the Progressive Party) and far right of the Party 
(Dixiecrat Strom Thurmond) running third-party campaigns. 
Virtually every prediction (with or without public opinion polls) indicated 
that Truman would be defeated by Republican Thomas Dewey.
On election night, Thomas Dewey, his family, and campaign staff confidently 
gathered in the Roosevelt Hotel in New York City to await the returns. Dewey 
realized that he was in trouble when early returns from New England and New 
York showed him running well behind his expected vote total. He stayed up for 
the rest of the night and early morning analyzing the votes as they came in. By 
10:30 a.m., he was convinced that he had lost; at 11:14 a.m., he sent a 
gracious telegram of concession to Truman. 


  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 6:35 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL trumped??
   
    


Emily,
Electoral votes can be stolen by hacking the election process just as the 
Russians did.  As I remember, Trump had narrow victories in several states such 
as Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Ohio.  If Trump, with the help of the 
Russians, hacked the election system in these states then Trump illegally won 
the 40 or so electoral votes which were needed to get the 270 electoral votes 
needed to win the election.
But the FBI does not tell us the extent of the hacking.  Did the Russians add 
ghost votes in these states to win the states' electoral votes?  If the 
election voting was rigged to upend the final electoral vote tallies, then the 
Russians have committed a major revolution without firing a single shot.
It appears that Hillary Clinton has a major cause to protest the election 
results due to the hacking by the Russians.
In addition, the Russians could have help the Trump campaign with sophisticated 
forecasting techniques, using the latest algorithms in artificial intelligent 
machines.  As such, Trump was able to manipulate the opinions and sentiments of 
the American people.
The FBI has the responsibility to tell Americans if the results of the election 
validly reflected the people's will.  If not, then the true winner of the 
election should be declared.
---In 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Feeding Fairfield, Iowa !

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Food is an interesting concept in spirituality. I do not think there is any 
real evidence that spiritual growth and enlightenment require more than basic 
adequate nutrition. 
The whole idea of purity and so forth does not take into account the body's 
immense flexibility in extracting nutrition from available food.
Obviously some food and eating habits can result in not feeling well or 
potential illness, but for the most part people do well eating whatever is 
available.
Spiritual systems have resulted in all kinds of special diets, but there is no 
consistency among them when you compare them.
People eating similar diets in different countries seem to have different 
outcomes as far as disease and longevity, except perhaps if you eat at 
McDonald's everyday.
Some are vegetarian, some are not. The idea of purity is applied liberally in 
selection and preparation and killing of food for consumption, but exactly what 
is purity?
If consciousness is "pure" and everything is a function of that, what 
difference does it make? Everything has equal purity in unity, as it is all 
experienced as consciousness, the same essential pure value lies at the heart 
of everything, every action.
As far as food, with current productions methods, there is going to be a food 
shortage in the world by about 2050.
So we could ask, what is crop yield of "Vedic agriculture" compared to say 
"industrialized agriculture" or compared to a home garden? Does it have 
something to really offer, or is it just an elitist parochial spiritual system 
diet that hangs out with particular beliefs about food?
Science says that the body needs protein, carbohydrates, fat, and various other 
chemicals called vitamins and minerals in a certain specific range of amount. 
Do all these other considerations about food have any additional effect beyond 
the required nutrition?
If you say a prayer over food, or stir it a certain direction when cooking does 
anything really happen as a result?
Has anybody ever run a test to see if a food produced in another country has a 
different effect than eating the same food produced nearby?
Virtually none of the food we eat today is in its genetically wild, natural, 
original state, it has been modified by selection, by breeding, by 
hybridization, and now by genetic engineering.
I suspect that the idea that something bad will happen if you do not eat a 
certain way as prescribed by various spiritual systems cannot be verified as 
true.
The basic idea of spiritual eating seems to be restriction, if you eat 
such-and-such, bad things will happen.
You can eat too much, just enough, or fast. Fasting is a common food 
restriction in spiritual systems, and maybe that has some value, there is 
scientific evidence that fasting may increase longevity.



  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:15 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Feeding Fairfield, Iowa !
   
    Fairfield, Iowa, serves as proxy for a drama that is being played out 
across the entire country.
Tenet of the Fairfield meditating community is that purity and wholesomeness of 
food is essential to development of consciousness. Demand is high in Fairfield, 
Iowa for sustainable, organic local foods. 
Documentary in a small town..
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/feeding-fairfield-a-look-at-sourcing-local-food#/

Feeding Fairfield!Frugal essential food for an ascetic spiritual people.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and DMN!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

One of the features of "awakening" is the surprise. 
All along you are expecting to come to pass what you have been taught, but real 
awakening is transcendental to this, goes beyond what you knew. 
This is the transition from Unity to Brahman, when the illusion, as it is 
called, "that which is not" passes away. 
The veil hiding and obscuring the experience of what is alleged to be reality 
lifts.
The term "that which is not" — Maya — is truly that, for in passing it never 
existed and the reality of what had always been experienced from the very 
beginning is seen to be what was sought.
Nothing happened, the reality, such that a man can experience, was out in the 
open all the time, for all to see.
This comes as a pleasant surprise for some, and less so for others, for it 
reveals that the path, all that one took for spirituality along the way was in 
fact the illusion in just another guise, that illusion you tried to overcome, 
by meditation and all the other modalities. 
In becoming spiritual, you merely adopted another form of the mistake of the 
intellect, believing it knowledge while it really was just the same as what was 
abandoned as non spiritual.
This does not negate the value of those techniques and learning, but they were 
merely a thorn to remove a thorn. 
And meditation continues to be valuable but it serves another purpose now 
because that desire known as seeking simply disappears.
Having found what you are, here and now, there is nowhere to go.
Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. And the knowledge 
in this end point has interesting ramifications, to say the least.
Because the spiritual path has ended, the evolution after realization is 
trackless, there is not a path whatever, but still you must learn because all 
that came before is now seen as an illusion, as unreal, as not true and now you 
have what is true, and it is not what you thought.
To reveal a truth, you were given a lie (the thorn that removes a thorn), and 
that lie was whatever you learned on the way. 
Some people retreat from this, it can be so shocking if unprepared for it, and 
in the TM movement, there is almost no preparation for this, that the spiritual 
path was just another form of what you supposed you were escaping from, the 
unsatisfactory nature of life as an individual in a hostile world.
It bolstered you with a belief in a better time to help get you over some of 
the hurdles.
The real hurdle is that life is the same as it always was and now it must be 
met head on.
There is no escape. But the perspective of enlightenment is different, in that 
knowing there is no escape with an absolute finality, eliminates the 
possibility of retreat into another fantasy.
And now is the time to learn to live life, to embrace the art of living, now 
there is no excuse to avoid embracing life in all its difficulties.
"You are the world" as they say and as such there is nowhere to hide from it, 
no more hiding behind illusions. 
The learning that may have been so desperately sought really begins here, and 
you have to learn all by yourself.
The spiritual path was prep work, not the final work. 
As if TC, CC, GC, UC were elementary school, middle school, high school, and 
college. 
But enlightenment is where you start to work on your post doctorate, where you 
are independent, there are no teachers, you learn by doing and coordinating 
your realization with world.
This is the part that most meditators think meditation is going to accomplish, 
but the meditation was preparing you for this, making you strong enough for 
this so the job at hand would not be overwhelming.
For some it might still be difficult, for others maybe easy.
Even so, you have an imagined choice, if you like, to continue with others in 
this, or just be alone, because really there are no others. There is no group, 
there is only consciousness.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2016 1:07 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and DMN!
   
    
Evidently in more than ‘awakening’ spiritually, a further cultivation evidently 
is in what one can do with it.
Interestingly, in SRF (Self-Realization Foundation, Yogananda’s teaching) they 
start with moral development in a study sequence of material and then in  the 
sequence students learn meditation.  These are deep meditators.  For them 
meditation is not just secular relief of stress but essential spiritual 
cultivation in the sequence in developing the human being.  
Threefold, for instance Ammachi freely urges practitioners on in their 
cultivation of spiritual progress and incarnational embodiment essentially 
through: moral character development in a reading and study of elevated 
writings, cultivating spiritual practices of meditation, and thirdly being of 
self-less service to others, of help to others, actively.

TM in a personality split can have a context background 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and DMN!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

A sample of scientific research on mindfulness meditation, which is actually 
researched more than TM. The proprietary nature of TM teaching seems to 
restrict the possibilities of more directly comparative studies. The studies on 
TM are also mentioned.
76 Scientific Benefits of Meditation | Live and Dare

  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and DMN!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

An interesting article comparing mantra-based meditation with mindfulness 
meditation. Note the final paragraph.
Mantra Practice vs. Mindfulness

  
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  From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 1:18 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and DMN!
   
    Thxhis phrase "all other types of meditation" only applies to the 
limited sample of the control group types, not literally "all types". No 
mention of Mindfulness.. No mention of Oxytocin levels which correlate to the 
feeling of compassionate awareness that could go farther toward a more complete 
description of meditative states than the Default mode. The default mode is 
limited in scope, since it doesn't involve activation of the polyvagal system. 
That's where compassion comes in.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and DMN!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That is rather interesting. It confirms my experience with TM versus other 
types when I started. 
More recently however the experience is they are all similar but then my mind 
has undergone a lot transformations in the last few years or so. 
The main difference now is the mind is far more silent even in activity so I 
can just sit and be silent even without meditating. 
Basically as time goes on the contrasts of experience that a non-meditator or a 
new meditator experiences become less and less, although I think the time 
interval for this to occur varies a lot among individuals.
My experience with the movement is they are not keen on making comprehensive 
comparisons with other meditations.
>From a scientific point of view, enlightenment is kind of undefined, 
>consciousness is undefined, so designing an experiment that investigates what 
>meditation is supposed to accomplish is currently impossible.
So the tests are more superficial, such as levels of rest, or mental focus and 
some chemical changes in the blood.
It is clear these other meditations do sometimes have a profound effect and 
result in enlightenment and that some take to them more easily than TM, but I 
do not think this is the majority case.
I recall a newspaper article long ago where the author mentioned that people 
practicing TM found more success than with other types they tried. That was the 
case for me.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 1:09 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and DMN!
   
    ..activity in the "default mode network" (DMN), which is a large-scale 
brain network involving areas in the front and back of the brain that are 
active when one's eyes are closed and one is following internal thoughts.

perhaps reflecting..
This could indicate..
assertions. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




| New Research Validates Hallmark of Transcendental Meditation — 
EffortlessnessA new study on MUM students by Fred Travis shows EEG patterns of 
the Transcendental Meditation® technique that distinguish it from other 
approaches to meditation and that validate the assertion that it's an 
effortless practice."Transcendental Meditation uses a mantra, and for this 
reason some researchers maintain that it involves focused attention and 
controlling the mind," Dr. Travis said. "This study supports the experience of 
people who practice Transcendental Meditation that it's easy to learn and 
effortless to practice."There were two key findings that suggest the technique 
is effortless and natural. First, the students who had been meditating for a 
month reported the same frequency of experiences of Transcendental 
Consciousness as those who had been meditating for five years."This supports 
the understanding that Transcendental Meditation uses the natural tendency of 
the mind to transcend — to move from active thinking to deep, inner silence," 
Dr. Travis said. "Extensive practice doesn't make a natural process go any 
better."The second finding deals with activity in the "default mode network" 
(DMN), which is a large-scale brain network involving areas in the front and 
back of the brain that are active when one's eyes are closed and one is 
following internal thoughts. DMN activity is high when a person just sits with 
his or her eyes closed, and low when one opens one's eyes and interacts with 
the world.The study reports that activity in the DMN remained high during 
Transcendental Meditation practice. In contrast, it decreases in all other 
types of meditation — since they involve focus and control of the mind. Indeed, 
the study found that the default mode network was as high during Transcendental 
Meditation practice as during eyes-closed rest, which is used as the benchmark 
for default mode network activity.However, Dr. Travis found two important 
differences between Transcendental Meditation and eyes-closed rest. Eyes-closed 
rest had more beta brain waves in areas of the brain associated with memory and 
motor aspects of speech production, perhaps reflecting the mental chatter that 
goes on when one's eyes are closed, Dr. Travis said.Transcendental Meditation 
had more theta brain waves in orbitofrontal areas associated with reward 
anticipation."This could indicate the movement of the mind to more charming 
levels of thought during transcending," Dr. Travis said. "The meditators' 
attention was absorbed in the inner march of the mind, attracted by the 
increasing charm of finer levels of mental functioning."
Works cited:
The Review, Vol 32, #6 |


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[FairfieldLife] Election, Jefferson County, Iowa

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

While there did not seem to be enough people in the domes for the United States 
in this last Presidential election, there were certainly enough for Jefferson 
County, Iowa.
Trump won over Clinton by 51% to 46% of the vote in Jefferson County. So what 
does this mean in relation to the support of the laws of nature, the TM 
techniques, TM group practices and elections?
Quite a lot of meditators I know seemed rather surprised at the result. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quietist Revolution

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Transcendentalism and Quietism have philosophically at their basis, withdrawal. 
That is a recessive quality, a retreat, and that cannot stand up to more 
forceful attitudes such as ramming a dogma down someone's throat. 
Quietism was condemned as a heresy in the Catholic Church, wrongly elevating 
contemplation over meditation, intellectual stillness over vocal prayer, and 
interior passivity over pious action. (Note the words here are used in a 
different sense than in TM.)
This problem cannot be overcome unless it is realized that transcendence and 
stillness are techniques to expand experience, to expand the nature of the 
mind. They are not ends in themselves, they are methods.
Also these methods become objectified. Moving from a state of experience not 
previously known to a state of knowing is a transcendence, a going beyond, but 
just for the moment. Once you have the result, it is in hand. It is not 
transcendent.
Thus it is improper to say you are experiencing "the Transcendent," because any 
state transcendent to what you are experiencing is not experienced. 
Transcendence is a method to get from A to B, a state of experience, not a 
state of objects.
First you just have A. Then B, and finally AB. You are looking for a state of 
experience, not a thing.
In TM this would be A, B (TC), A|B (CC), and AB (UC).
So ultimately transcendence comes to an end because there is no further to go, 
the method, having established a unified experience, no longer has anything to 
do.
If there is success in the pursuit of unity, you cannot be a Transcendentalist 
because there is nothing transcendent to what your experience is. You might be 
quiet, but not a Quietist.
The word transcendence thought of objectively symbolizes the goal in a somewhat 
inaccurate way, but is not the goal itself but the path to it. The goal itself 
has no name and no definable qualities and is not located anywhere in 
particular. 
It is as if nothing at all, making approach a thorny problem except for the 
fact that it is your own experience. Thus it is close at hand at all times, 
which removes the problem of distance. 
Because it is at hand, the problem is not where it is, but your own ignorance 
of it. 
The lack is therefore in your own mind in the form of beliefs, opinions, 
conditioned behavior, and general inattention to the nature of experience as an 
aspect of living.
This is why introspective methods, such as inward contemplation, and non-verbal 
meditation methods, and meditation methods that result in pure silence (like 
TM) are useful to illuminate and allow the mind's faults, which revolve around 
the way it thinks and feels, to dissipate.
Unlike warfare, these methods represent, as said, a retreat from your current 
situation, not a battle with it. Perhaps this is why they lose out in the 
marketplace, they do not appear to meet a problem head on.
Once dissipated, things are clear as day for what you sought is not something 
different from what you have always been, or is somewhere else than where you 
are. 
Knowledge replaces ignorance, but it is not knowledge as something learned. 
What you had learned was the problem. You need to lose an awful lot, to 
experience what is called enlightenment.
Loss is not what people tend to aim for in their lives.
You have to lie a lot to induce people to consider enlightenment as a valid 
goal in life, to make it seem as if they are going to get something out of it 
when in fact they will lose everything that is currently preventing them from 
the experience.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

War is evil, and the moral equivalent of war is evil. You are using the wrong 
terminology.
If meditation brings peace, it is the antithesis of war, and of evil. It does 
not achieve its results by conflict, but by stilling conflict.
The universe shows no signs of morality. Morality does not come from the gods. 
It is a derivative of social communal interaction for the common good. It comes 
from us.
The peace of meditation enhances the morality of those already inclined in that 
direction, but there are many, many long time meditators that show no sense of 
moral value at all. 
Meditation makes what already exists better defined and understood, but it does 
not change reality, it reveals reality.
Maharishi's World Plan does not appear in any way to have been a success except 
within individual minds. The world is still in as much turmoil now as it was.
Look at what happened in the tale of the Bhagavad-Gita. Arjuna gains supreme 
knowledge, and yet he saved, in essence, no one, and was a major agent in 
destroying everyone involved in that conflict.
As a social grace, those that like to meditate together is fine for them. It 
brings a feeling of security in numbers. But the goal is self-sufficiency and 
that means to achieve the same security without those numbers behind your back.
Every spiritual organization that has ever proclaimed a heaven on Earth has 
never achieved that goal. Inside their little group maybe, but outside, the 
same old chaos and divisiveness.
It is a nice thought though. Simply repeating the same refrain does not a 
heaven make, it means something is stuck and cannot move on.
"What we mean by intelligence is the thing we do that ensures that the problem 
is efficiently solved and in a way that makes it appear effortless. And 
stupidity is a set of rules that we use to ensure that the problem will be 
solved in longer than chance or never and is nevertheless pursued with alacrity 
and enthusiasm." —David Krakauer*

*David Krakauer is President and William H. Miller Professor of Complex Systems 
at the Santa Fe Institute. His research explores the evolution of intelligence 
on earth. This includes studying the evolution of genetic, neural, linguistic, 
social and cultural mechanisms supporting memory and information processing, 
and exploring their generalities.




  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
   
    Waging Peace.
Meditators!It is time for
Waging Radical Peace,
in groups meditating, this call now to meditation is The Moral Equivalent of 
War.
Meditators, this meditation against war is going to be no holiday excursion or 
camping party. The post-election feelings of division are too deeply grounded 
to abdicate their place until better ideals as substitutes are offered than the 
glory and shame that come to people and nations by politics and vicissitudes of 
trade and commerce in making war. 
It is time, forThe Moral Equivalent of War: radical modern peace-making, in 
meditation.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We are most grateful to all those who came answering the call and sat up in 
their meditations with us in Fairfield, Iowa. It has been our honor to have had 
those who traveled from distant places joining alongside us here in collective 
meditation in these times. -JaiGuruYou
Those of you that have been going to the Domes recently will be aware that many 
of our friends from across the country have joined us here in Fairfield over 
the last week or so, and they have helped boost the overall attendance in 
evening program to over 750 people.
If you arent able to attend any of the official flying halls, please try to do 
group program together with friends in 2s, 3s, 4s, etc., whatever is 
convenient, and aim to start your yogic flying practice at the official CST 
times of 8:15 am and 5:45 pm.
Jai Guru Dev
Raja John Hagelin and theIdeal Community Group

Bhairitu writes:
I think Doug is lost in the nostalgia of early 1970s TM which ended when the 
"self appointed" purity gestapo returned from AofE courses.



On 11/16/2016 11:01 AM, upfronter [FairfieldLife] wrote:



Well, forgive this voicing of a different viewpoint, but this one's personal 
opinion is that one genuine disciplined meditator meditating regularly amongst 
100 non-meditators is more effective in society than 100 meditators meditating 
amongst themselves - although there is certainly a beneficial social family 
aspect which cannot be denied from similar association on such a deep level.
 Besides, I personally have a different spiritual philosophy to that expounded 
by Maharishi, one which differs in certain fundamental aspects, it would seem, 
one which touches both my heart and mind deeply in a manner that leaves no room 
for the grafting of 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The moderator here seems to be more religiously oriented than the typical TM 
meditator.
I think the average TM meditator is a bit more secular.
As for his comments about grace they appear to be "the free and unmerited favor 
of God" which is basically a Christian idea, even though the idea of spiritual 
grace appears in other traditions.
If you are ill and someone cares for you, that is a kind of grace. Grace is 
simple elegance or refinement of movement, a kind of beauty that soothes and 
takes away the ache.
One feels a kind of grace on learning any meditation that is effective as it 
takes the edge off living.
As awareness becomes clearer, the nature of grace begins to shift from 
something that is done to you or done for your benefit to something that is 
what you are.
The attribution of grace then shifts from persons, traditions, what people have 
told us, to a function of the world as a whole.
As we become that world and our ego-nature subsides the idea and significance 
of grace fades away as an unreality.
In a unity there is nothing that does something to something else except on a 
superficial level of change.
The nature of experience at that point forbids the idea that something happened 
to get to that state, for it is seen that grace, as all the other trappings of 
spiritual progress, were delusional, unreal.
To put it in TM terms, TC, CC, GC, and immature UC provide a platform for the 
function of the idea of grace because there is the potential for some relief 
and change in the situation.
But once BC and rock-solid stability are the norm, grace as an idea is in the 
coffin because it is not necessary to receive something in order to be what you 
already are and always have been.
Giving thanks for that is just talking to yourself and making a mood.
Because enlightenment is the pervasive bed of reality, every aspect of 
experience can be a lead-in, a point of access to that reality. The mind can be 
narrow, but the path is not, it is everywhere all the time, trying to break 
down that narrow vision.
When that narrowness cracks open clearly for the first time, there is a 
tendency to associate the breaking open of freedom with what you were doing at 
that time and especially if other people tell you that.
So if you are meditating, you associate that kind of meditation and the 
teaching of it with the result.
But you could be putting the trash in the garbage can when you have an opening 
like that. But the garbage can is not going to tell you it is the way and the 
life and the freedom you were seeking, so less likely that will be thought to 
be a cause.
But the real cause is there is no cause because simply a misunderstanding of 
the situation is being dissipated. You are living the life of freedom but think 
it is not. Once that thought is squashed at every level of your being, it is a 
done deal.
So grace, like all other areas of spiritual understanding, is ultimately an 
illusion. But while it is still a functional idea, enjoy the experience as it 
can take emphasis off your ego, can act as a nudge toward a more fulfilling 
direction.
It is interesting that spiritual organizations in teaching you to be free are 
often highly regimented. All Maharishi said was meditate and act, do your thing 
during the day. So you are going to be free and you can only do what they say?
If you have managed to subdue the ego, and the mind is quiescent, why not walk 
among all the people for you have become the very world they envision they 
inhabit. There is no nexus for omnipresent reality, no one point or activity 
more important than another, they are a whole. Perhaps just brushing against 
some stranger or a word here or there will be the nudge that sets them desiring 
the larger scale of life.

  From: "upfron...@ymail.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 7:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
   
    Well, forgive this voicing of a different viewpoint, but this one's 
personal opinion is that one genuine disciplined meditator meditating regularly 
amongst100 non-meditators is more effective in society than 100 meditators 
meditating amongstthemselves - although there is certainly a beneficial social 
family aspect which cannot be denied from similar association on such a deep 
level.
 Besides, I personally have a different spiritual philosophy tothat expounded 
by Maharishi, one which differs in certain fundamental aspects,it would seem, 
one which touches both my heart and mind deeply in a manner thatleaves no room 
for the grafting of branches from other trees.  I’m not sure I could listen to 
too much coffee-shopconversation without suggesting the smelling of stronger 
coffee all round. 

Jai Guru Dev.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

FW: e-mail response,
Try to meditate in groups with a grateful heart. Remember all 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Did MMY Think the Universe is a Simulation?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I don't understand how you can claim the materialist view has been debunked by 
modern science.
The scientific view is that the entire universe is material.
Can you give some examples of published scientific work where scientists 
investigate non-material realms?
Without the materialistic viewpoint, science has nothing to investigate.
Icke is a writer, former sports person and former sports broadcaster. He would 
seem to lack scientific training.

  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 8:26 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Did MMY Think the Universe is a Simulation?
   
    It would appear to be so since the Hindu philosophy considers the world to 
be Maya or an illusion.  This is the reason why he thought humans can attain 
siddhis and fly using Patanjali's sutras.  Also, the Srimad Bhagavatam has 
story of a muni or rishi who was able to travel to different worlds.  Also, the 
SB mentioned of prajapatis or cosmic administrators who were in charge of 
certain sectors of the universe who seeded life in those sectors of the 
universe and controlled its administration.
So, since the materialist view has been debunked by current science, we can 
entertain the thoughts of reprograming the world as we see fit.  IOW, it's 
possible for humans to travel to other planets and galaxies by manipulating the 
universal program by a certain method, such as the use of mantras?
David Ickes explains it in another way:
David Icke ☼ The Universe Is The Equivalent Of A Computer Simulation — There Is 
No Sol 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Quite a few of my friends meditate, and some are teachers, but most of us live 
far from Fairfield, IA.
But we are scattered over a wide area so group gatherings of meditators tends 
to take place only during quarterly celebrations or occasional group 
meditations.
Attempting to get enlightened is not a military campaign against the outer 
world, it is a campaign against our inner inadequacies.
The outer world takes care of itself, as it says in Tao Te Ching: "So the wise 
adhere to action through non-action,And communicate the teaching without words."
Extolling meditators to perform under command, as if  they were a seal on the 
commercial stage balancing a ball on its nose, negates the spontaneity of 
effortless flow.
Those who live in movement facilities live under this constriction, but those 
who do not often have lives far removed from life in the movement, we meditate 
when and where we can when we so desire.
If the desire to meditate is genuine, it comes naturally, effortlessly and time 
will be made as allowed by the greater expanse of the world under the Laws of 
Nature.
Spiritual movements ebb and flow, they begin, evolve, and dissipate.
None of them eventually stay true to their original purpose which is simply for 
the human mind to wake up to its actual nature as experience opposed to its 
intellectual musings which flow as constricted rivers of thought.

   

   From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:18 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
  
    
Yes, it is quite time now to STFU and meditate.  As in, ..Sit up, attend to and 
actually meditate. In groups.  

It is time to rally to meditation by all that the best of modern science tells 
us is statistical truth and by what we know more objectively in our experience 
as quite fair rule of thumb. It is quite time now to come together in 
collective meditation for all that is good. It is quite time now to ‘SitTFU’ 
and meditate.  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Brave meditators, you have done all we asked you to do, and more than could be 
reasonably expected; but your own global country of World Peace is at stake, 
your partners, families, your homes and all that you hold dear. You have worn 
yourselves out with fatigues and hardships of waging world peace, but we know 
not how to spare you. If you will consent to stay in the Domes only one month 
longer, you will render that service to the cause of liberty of all and to your 
global country of world peace which you probably never can do under any other 
circumstances.



Free Accommodation Extended..
In conjunction with the extension of October Surprise and thanks to the 
generosity of Raja Hagelin, free accommodation at the ILA Campus (Pandit 
Campus) is also extended until the morning of Nov 15th.

With warmest wishes to all,
Ideal Community Group


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

No, the morning of the Election there were only a few more than 300 in the 
men's Dome.  
Yours sounds like speculation.  Should need better control for results to 
publish. Evidently the best research would relate that just having 800 turning 
out once (spread around in 11 different locations in Fairfield-M.Vedic City) is 
not enough to have much positive national effect.  
We could have used you up here towards better results. 
People evidently are way too complacent around this, if they understand the 
consequence of meditating at all.  If anything the low numbers meditating could 
indicate an inverse conclusion regardless of some personal opinion.   Also, 
published Science Research for religious rites is not nearly so conclusive as 
for groups meditating. More research is needed. -JaiGuruYou 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Doug, there were yagyas done in India for Trump. Combine that with the 800 or 
so meditating in the dome and I'd say it all worked fine.


  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 9:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
 
 Peer-reviewed, published, replicated, honest-to-goodness, gold-standard 
scientific research leads us to make this heartfelt request of you: Come and 
join us for meditation in Fairfield, Iowa for this post-election period of 
time. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Some few meditators, like good Elijah, stand

While thousands have skedaddled,

In earnest for a heav'nly land

They never yet have halted.

With such spirituality doth remain,

For they are not perverted;

O may they all through groups meditating rally

The glory that's departed. 


---In 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Underlying the TM organization's idea of group program is this will influence 
the way the election would go according to the Laws of Nature. 
But in the minds of meditation practitioners there is another level of 
expectation, that Nature will be in agreement with how you think the election 
will turn out. 
All the people I knew thought it would come out differently than it did, but 
Nature seems to have a different plan.
Now these same people want to continue to try to influence the outcome — 
reversing it somehow — using the same method that produced the undesired result 
and possibly additional methods to still the cognitive dissonance that has been 
the result.
This is not a definition of rationality.
Now that there is this outcome, how will Nature proceed, and how does a 
meditator come into alignment with Nature when they in activity and think 
something is amiss?
It seems pretty clear that we do not yet know how this situation is going to 
unfold in detail.
Remember the words "take it as it comes"? It does not mean manipulation or 
interference.
This leads me to suspect that meditators do not understand the meaning of 
living in accord with all the Laws of Nature.
If you are living in accord with all the Laws of Nature, it would not matter 
how the election came out, you would be settled in bliss consciousness if 
Clinton or Trump had won and then go on from there, one moment at a time, 
without being upset.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 11:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
   
    Brave meditators, you have done all we asked you to do, and more than could 
be reasonably expected; but your own global country of World Peace is at stake, 
your partners, families, your homes and all that you hold dear. You have worn 
yourselves out with fatigues and hardships of waging world peace, but we know 
not how to spare you. If you will consent to stay in the Domes only one month 
longer, you will render that service to the cause of liberty of all and to your 
global country of world peace which you probably never can do under any other 
circumstances.



Free Accommodation Extended..
In conjunction with the extension of October Surprise and thanks to the 
generosity of Raja Hagelin, free accommodation at the ILA Campus (Pandit 
Campus) is also extended until the morning of Nov 15th.

With warmest wishes to all,
Ideal Community Group


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Yours sounds like speculation.  Should need better control for results to 
publish. Evidently the best research would relate that just having 800 turning 
out once is not enough to have much positive national effect.  We could have 
used you up here towards better results. People evidently are way too 
complacent around this, if they understand the consequence of meditating at 
all.  If anything the low numbers meditating could indicate an inverse 
conclusion regardless of some personal opinion.   Also, published Science 
Research for religious rites is not nearly so conclusive as for groups 
meditating. More research is needed. -JaiGuruYou 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Doug, there were yagyas done in India for Trump. Combine that with the 800 or 
so meditating in the dome and I'd say it all worked fine.


  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2016 9:21 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
 
 Peer-reviewed, published, replicated, honest-to-goodness, gold-standard 
scientific research leads us to make this heartfelt request of you: Come and 
join us for meditation in Fairfield, Iowa for this post-election period of 
time. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Some few meditators, like good Elijah, stand

While thousands have skedaddled,

In earnest for a heav'nly land

They never yet have halted.

With such spirituality doth remain,

For they are not perverted;

O may they all through groups meditating rally

The glory that's departed. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Talk about complacency and even skulking, in Fairfield the evening meditation 
before the election had 800 in the group meditation.Half what was needed.  
Skulking: to keep out of sight, typically with a sinister or cowardly motive.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Those of you that have been going to the Domes recently will be aware that many 
of our friends from across the country have joined us here in Fairfield over 
the last week or so, and they have helped boost the overall attendance in 
evening program to over 750 people.

As really 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillarious humour: shortest honeymoon...

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The slacking off of meditators might depend on more than simple laziness. 
Long time meditators generally report that experiences of states in medtation 
that were short-lived early in their practice basically become perpetual. 
That means a state you had to practice to get at simply exists all the time, it 
is not necessary for meditation to bring it about anymore. Meditation becomes a 
kind of maintenance for dealing with current stresses in the environment
This might explain why so many meditators still meditate but do not practice 
the TM-Sidhi program, which facilitates Unity. If Unity (or Brahman) is there, 
the sidhis are redundant to get to this state if it is already there.
The statistics used to imply there is a Maharishi effect does not obviate the 
fact there has never been a direct measurement of the how that effect 
propagates. If the effect exists, how would you measure it?
Example — heat. Objects at a distance from a supposed source of heat burn. 
Statistically you can say in the presence of the source, so many trees burn. 
But that does not say how it happens the source produces this.
In this case, infrared radiation can me measured and quantified and an actual 
mechanism identified, based on known and verified physical principles.
In the case of the Maharishi effect, only TM movement scientists are awed by 
the effect. 
It is ignored by other scientists because it is explained only statistically 
and the raw statistical data has not been released and the mechanism has not 
been measured or identified as a replicatable experiment and so is not believed 
by these other scientists.
Communication about this effect is botched as a result.
We have meditators and sidhas not needing to achieve what they already have and 
so have no desire to to repeat those practices for that purpose.
There are also meditators who quit through lack of satisfaction, or some other 
spiritual system captures their attention.
We have an understanding of an effect that only some meditators believe and 
which most others do not.
And as pointed out we have the TM movement, which discards its assets — 
meditators, sidhas, and teachers — on doctrinal disagreements.
Meditators also often display a sense of entitlement, that because they are 
meditators, they are something special. Pride goeth before the fall.
Way to go people.





  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 12:47 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillarious humour: shortest honeymoon...
   
    Spiritually, in what was an evident gross slacking off of meditators 
meditating, data would likely show quite a high correlation directly between a 
decline of coherence in parameters of a culture of American democracy to the 
slacking off of numbers of meditators regularly attending what were large group 
meditations once facilitated by the TMO in a more golden age of meditation and 
then a following onset of thirty-six years of separating meditators from the ™ 
movement.  
This is likely as strong in hypothesis now as what is now the Meissner-like 
postulate that is now extremely correlated that group practice of meditation 
brings coherence well-being to larger populations.
In statistical truth on statistical truth of course there is justification for 
more testing of hypothesis. But by such clear and highly correlated evidence of 
science we do have right now it is quite time to STFU (sit the f' up) and 
meditate, today. -JaiGuruYou 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

...since Elisabeth Taylor's 6th marriage?
https://youtu.be/O0XS2tksSNM?t=5m10s





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[FairfieldLife] Consciousness a State of Matter _____

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Why Physicists Are Saying Consciousness Is A State Of Matter, Like a Solid, A 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Looking for Tough Q's

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I like the crunchy peanut butter too. Peanuts have high protein. You could 
remove the fat and replace it with another lipid, which would make it more 
digestible, but probably less tasty.
1980 Vedic Science Conference. I was there but was told this story later as I 
was sick that day. Maharishi was discussing the food menu items and an Indian 
boy was going over the list. Maybe they were discussing nuts.
At the end the Indian boy said, "and peanuts." Maharishi said no peanuts, but 
the boy continued as before,  saying "and peanuts," and Maharishi couldn't get 
him to change, so then Maharishi said, "well, I guess we are going to have 
peanuts."
Did anyone else hear this story?
  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 3:35 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Looking for Tough Q's
   
    Had he sampled America's most popular peanut butters, I am fairly confident 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi would've preferred Jif, over Skippy. It is a little 
sweeter. I am a Skippy man, myself. I hope that doesn't impact my spiritual 
evolution. I also like 'crunchy', over 'smooth'...I could be in real trouble 
now...

Alex, Could you ask your bro, please? Or Doug, kindly see what John Hagelin 
thinks? Also, would *jam* act as kind of a yagya, a counterweight of sorts, if 
Skippy continues to be ingested? 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Who knows? However, that was one of those "Maharishi says..." pronouncements 
floating around FF in my early days here. Here's what MAPI has to say about 
peanuts (it's consistent with what MMY allegedly said):

"Peanuts are not recommended in ayurveda. Peanuts are not really nuts;they are 
legumes. Peanuts are difficult to digest and can make one feelsluggish and 
lethargic in body and mind. Ayurvedically, it is better touse either cashew or 
almond butter for sandwiches."

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Did Maharishi really say that eating peanuts dulls the mind?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Aggregating Questions..
All the Hard Questions You Thought We Couldn’t Answer

Some other questions.. sent through to FFL by e-mail:

In order for TMO to thrive and 
continue being a force for goodin the world, how "transparent"do the panel 
members think itshould be: 100%, 50%, something else?
PS I would be grateful if the topic of 
transparency could be addressedbefore any other questionsare entertained.
#Is it the central purpose of [Global Country of World Peace [GCWP] to simply 
act as one of a myriad of movement tax shelters for the "non-profit" world of 
the wealthy?

 #
Someone else asks:Why is the US Brahmasthan being ignored by admin?
#
Who currently owns the Brahmasthan of America?Does it have a Board of 
Trustee?Who is on the Brahmasthan of America Board of Trustees?

What else?
Like, where did all the money go?
Who is TM now?How does the org work?Could they share actual certified financial 
statements?Balance sheet that includes all the reaches of the movement?What is 
TM's relationship to the Indian Movement now?Is Girish out of jail?  What was 
that all about?Did TM money bail him out and pay his legal fees?
#Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  Will "transcending" it make people 
richer?.Will "transcending" curing diseases?Will it extend one's lifespan?
#Is the peer reviewed research just cooked data?
#---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A panel coming up this weekis looking for tough questions...
[ Reply to this FFL post or lurkers can send other Q's you'd like to ask 
straight to the FFL list owner at:dhamiltony2k5 at yahoo.com   ]  The FFL list 
owner also has some channels to submit questions onup the chain.,, 
All the Hard Questions You Thought We Couldn’t Answer

Anybody have questions of the TM movement to ask?
Where is Dr. Pete?  He had particular question aboutthe research.  
What else?
Like, where did all the money go?
Who is TM now?How does the org work?Could they share actual certified financial 
statements?Balance sheet that includes all the reaches of the movement?What is 
TM's relationship to the Indian Movement now?Is Girish out of jail?  What was 
that all about?
Other Q's people have?
Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  Will it make people richer?.How about 
curing diseases?
Is the peer reviewed research just cooked data?
Yifuxero writes:I'm skeptical of the rationale and underlying 
assumptions..Would one of the conclusions be "Transcending will make you happy 
and TM is the preferred method of transcending".  OK fine...let's see some 
evidence.Likewise, with the other claims.Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  
Will it make people richer?.How about curing diseases?Make some real 
substantial claims followed by some good uncooked data; with perhaps a few 
citations of peer reviewed research by somebody outside 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

The nature of maya, as it has to do with meditation and enlightenment has 
little to do with the complexity and paradoxes of the physical world, but has 
much to do with the mind and how it interprets what is experienced, for that is 
how the paradoxes manifest. 
The world itself has no paradox and is what it is. It includes the body, 
senses, and the environment of the body as a seamless whole. 
It is when the mind generates a thought and the mind is overshadowed by the 
thought and then maya comes into play making it seem there are individual 
things, and creates the illusion of a person separate from the world.
In this situation, the mind makes a virtual world that replaces the actual 
world, like a heavy fog obscuring what one sees. Waking consciousness, TC (as 
remembered), CC, GC, and incomplete UC are subject to this obscuration.
Thus these states are a problem to be mastered if you desire enlightenment. If 
you desire these states, by all means enjoy, but it will stunt your progress to 
aim so low.
The computer that is creating a simulation of the world is in your own head.

  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 5:34 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
   
    


The illusory aspect of maya is inherent in the world.  The prime example is the 
dual nature of light in nature.  It is both a particle and a wave.  Being a 
wave, light is non-deterministic and is probabilistic.   As such, the world is 
based on information that's similar to the virtual world of computers.  Hence, 
it can be justified to say that the world is a simulation in a gigantic 
computer.
Tom Campbell, a former TMer, discusses this point in the following video:
Tom Campbell: The Key to Understanding Our Reality (from Spokane) 
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I meditate all the time, and more often than most TM meditators, it has a 
goodly effect. 
Meditation reveals certain oddities about the nature of the universe from the 
level of experience. 
I would say the the illusion aspect of maya, and the consequent 
misunderstanding of the nature of spiritual life lasts all the way to Brahman 
consciousness, at which point maya begins to retreat. 
Most people seem to assume this happens near the beginning of practice of TM 
but the misunderstanding of the nature of self and the world lasts through all 
the states and we become capable of correcting the mistake of the intellect 
only at the end.
Because until then we did not know what it really was.
The word used for sin in the Bible means literally to miss the mark. The word 
sin in English comes from a root word meaning guilty. Actions performed when 
feeling guilty are stressful.
Using the term sin to coerce people to do something that they spontaneously do 
not do, such as vote or even meditate might have adverse effects if in fact 
what the person does contrary to another's desire is really spontaneous. 
Most people in the world do not naturally meditate, they have to come to it 
somehow, and understand by experience its value, and only then will they 
naturally continue with it.
The TM org is considered hostile by some so these people might avoid doing what 
the org wants.
Meditation eventually develops spontaneity, but spontaneity means you cannot 
predict what will happen, you cannot predict what a spontaneous person acting 
within the framework of nature's laws will do.
They do not act on individual whim, it's nature's spontaneity to do or not to 
do.

  From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
 
 Om, complacency. One could construct that in the being of human spirituality 
there are certainly things we do in life that enhance spiritual well-being 
either individually or collectively and then other things we may do that 
degrade spiritual well-being.  On these terms we could say there is that which 
is 'virtuous', enhancing spiritual well-being and then the spiritually 'sinful' 
which detract from it.  
Given what science is now correlating (or) some of what is our direct 
experience, for those who actually practice meditation and are experienced at 
it, this could well be said (constructed) that complacency in attending to 
meditation either individually or at the collective meditation is sinful in 
these terms.   It could well be constructed that in the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I meditate all the time, and more often than most TM meditators, it has a 
goodly effect. 
Meditation reveals certain oddities about the nature of the universe from the 
level of experience. 
I would say the the illusion aspect of maya, and the consequent 
misunderstanding of the nature of spiritual life lasts all the way to Brahman 
consciousness, at which point maya begins to retreat. 
Most people seem to assume this happens near the beginning of practice of TM 
but the misunderstanding of the nature of self and the world lasts through all 
the states and we become capable of correcting the mistake of the intellect 
only at the end.
Because until then we did not know what it really was.
The word used for sin in the Bible means literally to miss the mark. The word 
sin in English comes from a root word meaning guilty. Actions performed when 
feeling guilty are stressful.
Using the term sin to coerce people to do something that they spontaneously do 
not do, such as vote or even meditate might have adverse effects if in fact 
what the person does contrary to another's desire is really spontaneous. 
Most people in the world do not naturally meditate, they have to come to it 
somehow, and understand by experience its value, and only then will they 
naturally continue with it.
The TM org is considered hostile by some so these people might avoid doing what 
the org wants.
Meditation eventually develops spontaneity, but spontaneity means you cannot 
predict what will happen, you cannot predict what a spontaneous person acting 
within the framework of nature's laws will do.
They do not act on individual whim, it's nature's spontaneity to do or not to 
do.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
   
    Om, complacency. One could construct that in the being of human 
spirituality there are certainly things we do in life that enhance spiritual 
well-being either individually or collectively and then other things we may do 
that degrade spiritual well-being.  On these terms we could say there is that 
which is 'virtuous', enhancing spiritual well-being and then the spiritually 
'sinful' which detract from it.  
Given what science is now correlating (or) some of what is our direct 
experience, for those who actually practice meditation and are experienced at 
it, this could well be said (constructed) that complacency in attending to 
meditation either individually or at the collective meditation is sinful in 
these terms.   It could well be constructed that in the least, the complacent 
position on meditation is just some ignorance of the science or some lack of 
discipline in practice and experience as these manifest and not sinning 
necessarily like in the sense of the religious jurisdiction of a Sharia law or 
a Papal inquisition.  We are just talking the spiritual here, like in the 
experience of transcendentalism here.  
But then, in this construction when it might come to further considering those 
who would be false apostates out on the internet actively denying the science 
of meditation and even working at derailing those evident good works of 
meditation and its collective practice theirs under this spiritual construction 
would certainly become a moral failing simple, above the complacent, a type of 
serious crime against humanity's spirituality more than just misdemeanor, but 
rising to that of felony crime against humanity. [ ]  .. constructing the 
indictment.   -JaiGuruYou   


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I agree.
"The term moral obligation has a number of meanings in moral philosophy, in 
religion, and in layman's terms. Generally speaking, when someone says of an 
act that it is a 'moral obligation,' they refer to a belief that the act is one 
prescribed by their set of values."
People, even in the uniform world of a particular belief system have different 
values.
Perhaps some of these we are born with, and some cultural, some indoctrinated.
People who learn TM have a reason to learn, and even if they stick with the 
meditation, they may not share the values the TM movement holds dear, or 
believe everything the TM movement thinks they should.
If consciousness is the ultimate reality, then it already permeates everything 
("infinity at every point"), everything is in its grip so meditating should not 
have any wide ranging effect but would be local with the organism, a person 
might be calmer.
The evidence of wide ranging effects of meditation is not very convincing, and 
personal belief and spiritual hype is not evidence of efficacy. 
Meditators and non-meditators hold widely divergent views. People who want 
Hillary for US President say it is a moral obligation to vote for her. The same 
for those who want Trump for President, a moral 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Looking for Tough Q's

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

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I am fond of peanuts as are birds, squirrels, rats, and other rodents. Blue 
jays head straight for them over other kinds of seeds. Smaller birds will try 
to carry off a large unshelled peanut in preference to a bird feeder. High fat 
and protein. Birds go for that. Birds will choose GMO seeds that have higher 
protein over natural ones of the same kind.
The idea that peanuts are bad comes from their being hard to digest. About 30% 
of the fat in peanuts tends to not get digested. An Ayurvedic no no. If you get 
stranded in a winter wilderness with a lot of peanuts and you are Ayurvedic in 
dietary preferences, you die.
Actually some Ayurvedic sources say to reduce, not necessarily eliminate 
peanuts.
Peanuts have a strong odor, so perhaps that is another reason spiritually 
minded dogmatists are against them. 
Also the Vedic people did not know about peanuts.
India got its first peanuts in the 18th century. Vedic proscriptions do not 
specifically apply to the peanut as a result, modern Vedic-ites retrofitted 
proscriptions against nuts to them. 
It's all about nuts, but it is not clear whether the proscribed articles are 
the food or the eater of the food or both. Let us say it is perhaps unhealthy 
to be around nuts according to this view.

  From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:19 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Looking for Tough Q's
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Of course, not. However, I'm experiencing tremendous cognitive dissonance 
because MMY did say that peanuts dull the mind. Thankfully, I still have a 
bottle of lorazepam to ease my suffering.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

That the peanut M is roughly, in the shape of hiranyagarbha, did not escape 
your notice, I'm sure.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Just guessing here, but I imagine the chocolate surrounding the peanuts is 
applied with the same panning method as the outer shell coating. As such, the 
peanuts would be constantly tumbling as the coating is applied, so there would 
be no dents. That would assure the utmost in Vedic purity.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Here's a couple, possibly a little off-topic, but still toughies: 

1. How do they get the peanut inside each m perfectly coated with chocolate, 
surrounded by the crunchy shell, without leaving a slight dent on it, from 
where it was resting on the conveyor belt? 

2. Also, each peanut m is a slightly different size, yet they are each 
uniformly imprinted with an "m". Are they produced by an army of small handed 
candy stampers, or what?

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Aggregating Questions..
All the Hard Questions You Thought We Couldn’t Answer

Some other questions.. sent through FFL by e-mail:

In order for TMO to thrive and 
continue being a force for goodin the world, how "transparent"do the panel 
members think itshould be: 100%, 50%, something else?
PS I would be grateful if the topic of 
transparency could be addressedbefore any other questionsare entertained.
#Is it the central purpose of [Global Country of World Peace [GCWP] to simply 
act as one of a myriad of movement tax shelters for the "non-profit" world of 
the wealthy?

[ Reply to this post or lurkers can send other Q's you'd like to ask straight 
to the FFL list owner at:dhamiltony2k5 at yahoo.com   ]  The FFL list owner 
also has some channels to submit questions onup the chain.,,  #
Someone else asks:Why is the US Brahmasthan being ignored by admin?
#
What else?
Like, where did all the money go?
Who is TM now?How does the org work?Could they share actual certified financial 
statements?Balance sheet that includes all the reaches of the movement?What is 
TM's relationship to the Indian Movement now?Is Girish out of jail?  What was 
that all about?Did TM money bail him out and pay his legal fees?
#Will "transcending" offset bad karma.  Will "transcending" it make people 
richer?.Will "transcending" curing diseases?#
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A panel coming up next weekis looking for tough questions...
All the Hard Questions You Thought We Couldn’t Answer

Anybody have questions of the TM movement to ask?
Where is Dr. Pete?  He had particular question aboutthe research.  
What else?
Like, where did all the money go?
Who is TM now?How does the org work?Could they share actual certified financial 
statements?Balance sheet that includes all the reaches of the movement?What is 
TM's relationship to the Indian Movement now?Is Girish out of 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I agree.
"The term moral obligation has a number of meanings in moral philosophy, in 
religion, and in layman's terms. Generally speaking, when someone says of an 
act that it is a 'moral obligation,' they refer to a belief that the act is one 
prescribed by their set of values."
People, even in the uniform world of a particular belief system have different 
values.
Perhaps some of these we are born with, and some cultural, some indoctrinated.
People who learn TM have a reason to learn, and even if they stick with the 
meditation, they may not share the values the TM movement holds dear, or 
believe everything the TM movement thinks they should.
If consciousness is the ultimate reality, then it already permeates everything 
("infinity at every point"), everything is in its grip so meditating should not 
have any wide ranging effect but would be local with the organism, a person 
might be calmer.
The evidence of wide ranging effects of meditation is not very convincing, and 
personal belief and spiritual hype is not evidence of efficacy. 
Meditators and non-meditators hold widely divergent views. People who want 
Hillary for US President say it is a moral obligation to vote for her. The same 
for those who want Trump for President, a moral obligation to vote for him.
And then there is Jill Stein and Gary Johnson, who also have supporters with 
different values.
Meditation does not seem to alter these kinds of preferences, although the 
cultural environment of the TM movement might have an influence on some people, 
or their church and so on.
Is it a moral obligation for you, whoever you are, to behave in the way I think 
you should? If you do, then by all means contact me and I will tell you what to 
do.
After all, I am an Archon Angel sent here for just this purpose.

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 4:33 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
   
    When someone tells me it is my "moral obligation" to do something, I reach 
for my revolver. Enough of such pontificating! If you want to go the dome and 
enjoy it, then by all means go, but don't be browbeaten by the "moral 
obligation" police. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

By e-mail to FFL,  "I agree.I also think it is ok to suggest to all meditators, 
meditators and all of old TM teachers, governors, Re-cert teachers, sidhas, old 
MIU alumni, MUM, MSAE, old Purusha and Mother Divine alumni, that there is a 
moral obligation to attend the group meditations and dome as often as they 
can-and especially when we need it most."..Let me apprise you, then: we intend, 
in spite of the rules of war, to attack this with meditation, this which 
appears nearly twice and a hundred times our strength, wherever we find it. The 
question is not of their numbers or the strength of their agitations or 
material position; all this by courage, by the skill of our methods, we will 
try to make good. This step we must ask, or everything is lost. We must beat 
back the chaos, the commotion of these times, or perish all of us before its 
batteries.
So we read the case; so we will act in it.  It is time to collectively rally to 
meditation for all that we hold dear. There is good in life. We must risk 
everything now.  
We ask your help to be with us now in a meditation of coherence.  Come now.  
Come quickly and assemble. There is ample housing and stores of plenty here to 
keep you here.  Certainly it is up to you to assemble.  
You might stay at home alone in a comfort of your room but never will you be 
able to do so great a thing as to assemble with this now.  Come quickly as you 
can, come now to Fairfield, Iowa for the enhancement of a collective peace in 
meditation. Arrange your affairs quickly and come directly.
In numbers gathered close it will be our great honor and privilege to be 
meditating together with you alongside. Come join in the collective practice of 
group meditation. We flatter ourselves, therefore, that, in this case, too, 
nothing will be wanting which the Community has a right to expect of your 
valor. It is time to assemble in collective meditation.    Jai Guru You!  -Doug 
in Fairfield, Iowa  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Meditators everywhere, it is quite time to elect 
coherence in group meditation.
 It is time to assemble in collective meditation.

The hour is at hand.

We ask your help to be with us now in a meditation of coherence.  Come now.  
Come quickly and assemble. There is ample housing and stores of plenty here to 
keep you here.  Certainly it is up to you to assemble.  

You might stay at home alone in a comfort of your room but never will you be 
able to do so great a thing as to assemble with this now.  Come quickly as you 
can, come now to Fairfield, Iowa for the enhancement of a collective peace in 
meditation. Arrange your 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Iowa

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

These Maharishi School students must have missed a lesson —
"We must take situations as they are. We must only change our mental attitudes 
towards them." —Maharishi


  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:56 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Iowa
   
    We Refuse to Accept Things the Way They Are
Maharishi School Students in Action: A Lively Panel Discussion with Our Next 
Generation of Leaders
Moderated by Ellen Akst Jones, Chair, Maharishi School
Board of Directors
Dalby Hall. Free. Open to the public. All welcome.
Monday, Oct. 24, 8:00 PM



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Also, a 2pm practice today forthe communal singof Handel's Messiah.51 N. Court 
StreetFairfield, Iowa23 OctoberA No-badge meeting.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :



Progress on the Path to Global Raam Raj
Sunday, Oct. 23, 2:00 PM
Inspiration from around the World, with Highlights from the Invincible America 
Assembly
Dr. Bevan Morris, DSCI (via Skype)
Prime Minister of the GCWP
International President of Maharishi Universities of Management
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM-Sidhas. Please bring TM-Sidhi ID.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Skeptics’ Night
Open Discussion with Community and Experts
on the Maharishi Effect
Saturday, Oct. 22, 8:00 PM 
Chair: Dr. David Orme-Johnson, Former Chair of MUM Psychology Dept.
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM-Sidhas. Please bring TM-SidhiSM ID.

Saturday, Oct. 22, 1:30 PMPhysics of the Maharishi Effect
How to Exploit Quantum Entanglement and Quantum Teleportation on a Massive Scale
Dr. John Hagelin, President of MUM
Dalby Hall. Free. Open to the public. All welcome

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Today, Friday, Oct. 21, 8:00 PM 
Behind-the-Scenes Adventures
Stories of Working for Maharishi in Mozambique and Israel
Vicki Alexander Herriott, JD, LLM, Chair, MUM Dept. of Management
Dr. Carolyn King, MUM Professor of Physiology and Health
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM meditators.

Thursday, Oct. 20, 8:00 PM
Your Brain In-Between Mantras
Silence Is the New Dynamism
Dr. Fred Travis, Chairman, MUM Department of Maharishi Vedic Science
Dalby Hall. Free. For TM meditators.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Wednesday, Oct. 19, 8:00 PM 

Transcending in Myth & Literature  
Dr. Rhoda Orme-Johnson, Former Chair of MUM Literature Department

MUM campus, Dalby Hall. 
Free. Open to the public. All welcome.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Tuesday, Oct. 18, 8:00 PM 
What Is Real? What Is Not Real?
Maharishi on Reality and Maya
(Evening 2 of a 2-evening series: The Not-Real)
Dr. Evan Finkelstein, MUM Adjunct Professor of 
Maharishi Vedic Science
Dalby Hall. Free. Open to the public. All welcome.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Free. Open to the public. All welcome.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Today, On campus at Dalby Hall:Designing Homes and Cities in Harmony
with Natural Law

Monday, Oct. 17, 2:00 PM 

Maharishi Vastu Architecture and Planning


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Monday, Oct. 17, 8:00 PM 
What Is Real? What Is Not Real?
Maharishi on Reality and Maya
(Evening 1 of a 2-evening series: The Real)
Dr. Evan Finkelstein, MUM Adjunct Professor of 
Maharishi Vedic ScienceSM
Dalby Hall. Free. Open to the public. All welcome.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Jyotish proves nothing. When you compare a simulation with the reality it is 
mimicking, there are discrepancies, because a simulation has to fake certain 
things for expediency, the simulation lacks the detail of the reality.
Jyotish tries to mimic the events in the world, but it is a very poor mimic. 
The world is not the simulation, Jyotish is.
If the world itself is a simulation, we have nothing else with more detail to 
compare it with. So we cannot see the glitches or discrepancies with the 
greater reality.
This is different from enlightenment versus ignorance, for here we are just 
correcting misperception and not comparing a world with a less detailed 
impression of it.
You could of course posit that our misperception of reality represents a 
botched simulation of our inner and outer worlds.
The discrepancies between what we think and what happens is often large.

  From: "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
   
    


Many people think that life in the world is a simulation.  The proof of this is 
the jyotish technique called Brighu Saral Paddhati which essentially shows the 
programming of our lives based on the planets in the jyotish chart.  See the 
article by Yuvraj Singh:
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But I'm still hopeful of free will in our lives, especially if one meditates.  
Those who don't meditate IMO don't have a method to ease the pain  of karma, or 
transcend karma altogether.
IOW, it is a scientific fact that light functions as a wave and a particle.  
But knowledge tells us that light is both.  It would be false to say that light 
functions as one or the other.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I'm not a believer at all in free will.Most research is leaning towards that it 
doesn't exist. But enjoythe show anyway and if you do you were "predestined" to.

I think that we are all just playing out our parts in a greatscript that if 
really just based on a mathematical formula (orwhat would be one if math folks 
discovered it).  What happens ifyou meditate you come more into alignment with 
that force and youwill be less disturbed by it.

So stopping meditating won't change anything either except maybethe way you 
feel.

On 10/24/2016 12:02 PM, Archer Angel archonangel@...[FairfieldLife] wrote:

  I reallyhave no idea. Doesn't nature just do what it doesanyway?
Coming intoalignment with nature would seem to mean that we donothing, just get 
out of the way, and that would seemto be the way its always been. 
That wouldmean TM would prevent people from interfering with thenatural 
progression of things.
Then itwould seem nature can only be controlled by people whoare not in accord 
with the laws of nature.
So if youwant to change what happens, stop meditating.

  From:"authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]"
To:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent:Monday, October 24, 2016 3:04 PM
Subject:[FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to SpiritualOrder,Rally Now to Meditation!

 So for this thing to bewhipped would mean the number ofmeditators that Doug 
thinks willkeep this thing from losing would begathered? How does he know how 
manywould be sufficient?
And then, what does"losing" mean in this context? Itcan't refer to one 
candidate or theother not winning the election,since Doug has declared all 
ofTM-land to be neutral in thatregard; Nature will make the choicefor us, you 
see.


---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

It meanspeople who practice meditation,probably TranscendentalMeditation 
specifically, shouldmeditate in clumps — together —and that presumably will 
effectthe outcome of the election.
Andthat in his view, people arenot doing this, and the resulthe desires will 
not come topass.
Whatif someone has the oppositedesire and people gather andmeditate so that 
specificdesire is fulfilled?


---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com, wrote :




---infairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com,wrote :

Friends of meditating, we are 15 days out. The Presidential contest is close 
enough I'm feeling that if we don't whip this right now with meditating 
collectively in proximity we just might lose the whole thing.What the heck does 
this mean, Doug? I can't make any sense of it.As we know by experience and the 
science, numbers meditating and their proximity do matter in collective 
meditation.
  I would personally be grateful to you if 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to Meditation!

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I really have no idea. Doesn't nature just do what it does anyway?
Coming into alignment with nature would seem to mean that we do nothing, just 
get out of the way, and that would seem to be the way its always been. 
That would mean TM would prevent people from interfering with the natural 
progression of things.
Then it would seem nature can only be controlled by people who are not in 
accord with the laws of nature.
So if you want to change what happens, stop meditating.

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 3:04 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Call to Spiritual Order,Rally Now to 
Meditation!
   
    So for this thing to be whipped would mean the number of meditators that 
Doug thinks will keep this thing from losing would be gathered? How does he 
know how many would be sufficient?
And then, what does "losing" mean in this context? It can't refer to one 
candidate or the other not winning the election, since Doug has declared all of 
TM-land to be neutral in that regard; Nature will make the choice for us, you 
see.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It means people who practice meditation, probably Transcendental Meditation 
specifically, should meditate in clumps — together — and that presumably will 
effect the outcome of the election.
And that in his view, people are not doing this, and the result he desires will 
not come to pass.
What if someone has the opposite desire and people gather and meditate so that 
specific desire is fulfilled?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Friends of meditating, we are 15 days out. The Presidential contest is close 
enough I'm feeling that if we don't whip this right now with meditating 
collectively in proximity we just might lose the whole thing.
What the heck does this mean, Doug? I can't make any sense of it.


As we know by experience and the science, numbers meditating and their 
proximity do matter in collective meditation.
  I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, join us in 
meditating in Fairfield, Iowa. 
This is not a usual fight. People often fight for money or land and things but 
we are meditating for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight.  
We could use your help. Come join with us now in a collective group of 
meditation, in Fairfield, Iowa! 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Meditators, I would personally be grateful to you if you would join us now, 
join us in meditating and at the Domes in Fairfield, Iowa. This is not a usual 
fight. People often fight for money or land and things but we are meditating 
for each other here. Come join us in this rare fight. -JaiGuruYou 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Inside of 18 days now.  The debates are past. People are deciding now how they 
are voting and some are early- voting now.  It is time now to certainly attend 
to meditation. 


“These are the times which try human souls”

May All blessings and grace of the Unified Field be upon us now for the work in 
progress we now have at hand.  It is come the time for more meditation,  
-JaiGuruYou   

Fairfield Housing for Arriving Meditators:
 website at: www.idealifeassembly.com 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Peer-reviewed, published, replicated, honest-to-goodness, gold-standard 
scientific research leads us to make this heartfelt request to you: Come and 
join us in Fairfield for any number of days between Oct 12th and Nov 12th.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We're inside three weeks to the election.Days..

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Friends,
Today we are now at 35 days and tomorrow, this Tuesday, is one month before the 
general election for the United States of America President, and what then will 
become the complexion of governance of our USA.   

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

We ask your help to be with us now in a meditation of coherence.  Come now.  
Come quickly and assemble. There is ample housing and stores of plenty here to 
keep you here.  Certainly it is up to you to assemble.  
You might stay at home alone in a comfort of your house and room but never will 
you be able to do so great a thing as to assemble with this now.  Come quickly 
as you can, come now to Fairfield, Iowa for the enhancement of a collective 
peace in meditation. Arrange your affairs quickly and come directly. 
In numbers gathered close it will be our great honor and privilege to be 
meditating together with you alongside. Come join in the collective practice of 
group meditation. We flatter ourselves, therefore, that, in this case, too, 
nothing will be wanting which the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Iowa

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So, what was described as real, or not real? I live 2,000 miles from Fairfield, 
so I could not attend.

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 2:33 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Fairfield, Iowa
   
    Tuesday, Oct. 18, 8:00 PM 
What Is Real? What Is Not Real?
Maharishi on Reality and Maya
(Evening 2 of a 2-evening series: The Not-Real)
Dr. Evan Finkelstein, MUM Adjunct Professor of 
Maharishi Vedic Science
Dalby Hall. Free. Open to the public. All welcome.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Free. Open to the public. All welcome.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Today, On campus at Dalby Hall:Designing Homes and Cities in Harmony
with Natural Law

Monday, Oct. 17, 2:00 PM 

Maharishi Vastu Architecture and Planning


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Monday, Oct. 17, 8:00 PM 
What Is Real? What Is Not Real?
Maharishi on Reality and Maya
(Evening 1 of a 2-evening series: The Real)
Dr. Evan Finkelstein, MUM Adjunct Professor of 
Maharishi Vedic ScienceSM
Dalby Hall. Free. Open to the public. All welcome.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] The UK Dome 20 Years On

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

  From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 1:20 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] The UK Dome 20 Years On
   
    The triumphal trumpet, 
radical transcendentalists in the postmodern age... 
With these short words I think you may have undercut the movement's attempt at 
respectability.
"Radical means advocating advocating complete political or social reform or 
supporting an extreme section of a idealistic movement."
"Transcendentalism is an idealistic philosophical and social movement that 
developed in New England around 1836 in reaction to rationalism. Influenced by 
romanticism, Platonism, and Kantian philosophy, it taught that divinity 
pervades all nature and humanity, and its members held progressive views on 
feminism and communal living. Ralph Waldo Emerson and Henry David Thoreau were 
central figures."
"Postmodernism is an era and a broad movement that developed in the late-20th 
century across philosophy, the arts, architecture, and criticism which marked a 
departure from modernism typically defined by an attitude of skepticism or 
distrust toward grand narratives, ideologies, and various tenets of 
Enlightenment rationality, including the existence of objective reality and 
absolute truth, as well as notions of rationality, human nature, and 
progress.It asserts that knowledge and truth are the product of unique systems 
of social, historical, and political discourse and interpretation, and are 
therefore contextual and constructed."
Postmodernism also exhibits a high degree of irrationality, at odds with 
science.
It seems to me this kind of language does not really suit the Transcendental 
Meditation movement which prides itself on a public face of religious 
neutrality, scientific rigor and as not being a lifestyle or philosophy.
It creates a sense of extremism and religious advocacy which does not forward 
the movement's public image they have cultured for the last 45 years or so, to 
avoid the appearance of crass Hinduism.
The movement has enough trouble with this as it is.
What do you think is the best way for TM to be promoted to modern, rational 
people that have perhaps paid lip service in the direction of spiritual 
activities, people who are basically secular in outlook and desire?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] YS: mahaa-videhaa

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It would seem that the passage simply indicates the result of successful 
practice.

  From: "he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 12:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] YS: mahaa-videhaa
   
    
YS III 44 (in Judge's "translation-commentary"; can be also at least 43):
bahir akalpitaa vRttir mahaa-videhaa; tataH prakaashaavaraNa-kSayah
44. When the ascetic has completely mastered all the influences which the body 
has upon the inner man, and has laid aside all concern in regard to it, and in 
no respect is affected by it, the consequence is a removal of all obscurations 
of the intellect.

बहिरकल्पिता वृत्तिर्महाविदेहा ततः प्रकाशावरणक्षयः ॥ ४३॥

Many translators take that suutra (following the YF suutra) containing a 
separate siddhi-technique, saMyama on mahaa-videhaa (great-bodylessness). Seem 
to recall almost right away when saw it, seemed to me like a description of one 
aspect of the experience during YF. (The word saMyama is absent in that suutra, 
but, have to admit, so is it in many of the siddhi suutras proper.)
Anyhoo, Judge is one of the rare commentators that seem to agree with me. At 
leasthis "translation" doesn't seem to me to consider that suutra being 
instruction fora separate siddhi?
Other translations:
[HA]: 
When The Unimagined Conception Can Be Held Outside, i.e. Unconnected With The 
Body, It Is Called Mahavideha Or The Great Discarnate. By Samyam On That The 
Veil Over The Illumination (Of Buddhisattva) Is Removed.[IT]: (44):The power of 
contacting the state of consciousness which is outside the intellect and is 
therefore inconceivable is called Maha-videha. From it is destroyed the 
covering of light.[VH]: 
The non-imaginary (actual) external vrtti activity (defining citta) is the 
great out-of-body state. From that, the dispersing of the covering of 
light.[BM]: 
The turning of thought without reference to the external world is called “the 
great disembodied thought”; from which this veil that obscures the light is 
destroyed.[SS]: (44):By samyama on thought waves unidentified by and external 
to the body [maha-videha, or the great bodilessness], the veil over the light 
of the Self is destroyed.[SP]: 
(44) By making samyama on the thought-waves of the mind when it is separated 
from the body—the state known as the Great Disincarnation–all coverings can be 
removed from the light of knowledge.[SV]: (44):By making Samyama on the real 
modifications of the mind, which are outside, called great disembodiness, comes 
disappearance of the covering to light.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Question

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Perhaps they are out, groping about.

  From: feste37 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 3:06 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: One Question
   
    The Trump supporters on this forum have gone very quiet. I wonder why?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I think it's glaringly obvious to anyone. In Trump world, Bill's accusers are, 
of course, to be believed, but those who accuse Trump of similar things are 
"horrible liars." He omits to note of course, that he himself said that he did 
those things to women. So they are merely confirming the truth of his words. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

So, how is Trump's besmirching of his female accusers any different or better 
or more justified than Hillary's alleged attacks against Bill Clinton's 
accusers? Does Trump not realize he's doing the exact same thing he accuses his 
opponent of? I haven't seen this point made anywhere in the media yet. What the 
hell?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/14/look-at-her-i-dont-think-so-trumps-defence-is-to-demean-his-accusers
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trump view "antithetical to American system"

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Trump is largely reactive, seems to have no self-awareness or self-reflection 
capability. 
Were he to win, I think it is likely he would be impeached at some point, if we 
are still alive that is. 
Clinton's policies would be self-ingratiating in other ways and probably 
financially damaging to the United States on a long-term basis, but not as 
damaging as Trump.
As for taxes (and note the reference to Trump is ironic) —
Trump’s real charitable gift: exposing the corruption of the U.S. tax code

  
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  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:32 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trump view "antithetical to American system"
   
    What the deplorables fail to realize is that they are being played like the 
saps they are, Trump included. His program of unregulated isolationism, 
combined with an unhinged and undisciplined nature, has some of the rich and 
powerful drooling. They can see reducing America to a series of unregulated 
markets for water, fuel and maybe even the air we breathe. Destroy the 
environment, sell all Federal land, cut taxes again on the wealthy, jack prices 
of necessities through the roof, alienate our allies, anger our enemies, and 
eliminate as many consumer and employee protections here at home, as possible. 
That is the American vision they see and want. Thankfully the time of such 
exploiters and environmental rapists is over, and Trump along with them. It is 
time to literally make them history.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It's irrelevant to the issue of Trump's threat to investigate and jail Hillary 
if he's elected. Read the article I linked to--or even just the excerpt I 
posted.
She did nothing criminal--that's already been extensively investigated--so it's 
irrelevant from that perspective as well.
(The fact is, anybody who is still whining about her emails has either been 
deliberately misled by malicious people who are lying about what happened, or 
is one of those malicious people.)


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Anyone would have to be crazy to think that deleting 30,000 emails from a 
private home-brew computer in a presidential election and during an FBI 
investigation is irrelevant. 
It was grossly irresponsible and possible criminal.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Bringing up irrelevancies and pretending they're meaningful, as you do all the 
time, is just another form of lying.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Anyone would be crazy to think that I would post irrelevancies, or post lies on 
this forum, or make negative comments about Hillary's home-brew server. 
Or, that I would point out that she would delete any mail that was top-secret 
or classified material, or be friends with Sidney, or have anything to do with 
running guns in Libya to Syria. 
Anyone would be nuts to think that I would question the meaning of Bill 
visiting the U.S. Attorney General when Hillary was being investigated by the 
FBI. 
They would be out of their mind to think I could think that her husband was 
having sexual relations with anyone not his wife!

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Bringing up irrelevancies and pretending they're meaningful, as you do all the 
time, is just another form of lying.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Anyone would be crazy to think that Hillary Clinton would install a home-brew 
computer in her basement in order to bypass the federal mail system, or delete 
30,000 emails on purpose to obstruct justice. 
Anyone would be nuts to think she would send her husband to meet with the U.S. 
Attorney General to make a plea deal. Anyone would have to be insane to think 
the FBI would give immunity to a key witness in the email investigation. 
And, anyone would be out of their mind to think that Bill Clinton might have 
molested a woman!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

GOP ex-prosecutors slam Trump over threat to 'jail' Clinton

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Disagreeing with another's view is an expression of contempt for that view, 
particularly if that view is simply dismissed.
This seems to be the human condition.
Scientists express contempt for other scientists' views but they do have a 
method to resolve disputes.
There does not seem to be an efficient method for this among spiritual or 
political groups.
Who is behind this alias you are accusing me of being? I do not live in Texas, 
which you seem to imply.

  From: "olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2016 2:05 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM?
   
    Yep, thinking the same thing - just another texas two step...

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Exactly. Expresses a kind of contempt for the people who actually post on this 
forum, don't you think?

Also, I suspect that "ArchonAngel" is just another alias of the one here who 
already has too many. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It should be noted that with the exception of Doug, the "consideration of 
proposals" he describes is not taking place among those who post to this group.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Archer Angel writes:

Maybe the group could be renamed to something more in line with the subject 
matter here. 

Archer, I  hope you will stick around.  
You bring up a good point about the branding of FairfieldLife over this 
Yahoo-Group.  There is still consideration going on of proposals as to making 
this spiritual yahoo-group heave to more exclusive topics of spiritual interest 
for this next month while so much of a higher spiritual order is going on in 
Fairfield, Iowa.  
I may work on these proposals more particularly this next week as I return from 
some brief travels to that spiritual place of Fairfield, Iowa life. 
I would look forward to your help with this.    -JaiGuruYou


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I take it from the content here that no one here practices TM 
Or if they do, get any benefits from TM, or display any of the intelligence or 
behavior that is supposed to result from TM. 
Maybe the group could be renamed to something more in line with the subject 
matter here. 
It seems to be a pit of vipers and the insane.  #yiv1963874328 #yiv1963874328 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

So TM fosters abnormality? That would seem to make sense.

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:34 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I take it from the content here that no one here practices TM 
Or if they do, get any benefits from TM, or display any of the intelligence or 
behavior that is supposed to result from TM. 
Maybe the group could be renamed to something more in line with the subject 
matter here. 
It seems to be a pit of vipers and the insane.
Yes, we are all insane. We have nothing better to do than sit in front of our 
computers and talk about yoga postures, politics and each other. We have been 
doing this for years. Unfortunately, every single one of us (except one and she 
is the most normal-sounding person here) has practiced TM at some time or 
another in our lives for years, even decades. What do you think of that?  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] TM?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is the content I was talking about.

  From: "Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] TM?
   
    Is your mouse stuck?
Leave if it’s not to your liking.
Sal 



On Oct 10, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


I take it from the content here that no one here practices TM 
Or if they do, get any benefits from TM, or display any of the intelligence or 
behavior that is supposed to result from TM. 
Maybe the group could be renamed to something more in line with the subject 
matter here. 
It seems to be a pit of vipers and the insane.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No

  From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:30 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM?
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Trump supporter, hmm?
Must be.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I take it from the content here that no one here practices TM 
Or if they do, get any benefits from TM, or display any of the intelligence or 
behavior that is supposed to result from TM. 
Maybe the group could be renamed to something more in line with the subject 
matter here. 
It seems to be a pit of vipers and the insane.  #yiv5168188912 #yiv5168188912 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

No

  From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, October 10, 2016 4:17 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM?
   
    Trump supporter, hmm?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I take it from the content here that no one here practices TM 
Or if they do, get any benefits from TM, or display any of the intelligence or 
behavior that is supposed to result from TM. 
Maybe the group could be renamed to something more in line with the subject 
matter here. 
It seems to be a pit of vipers and the insane.  #yiv0553827085 #yiv0553827085 
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[FairfieldLife] TM?

[Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I take it from the content here that no one here practices TM 
Or if they do, get any benefits from TM, or display any of the intelligence or 
behavior that is supposed to result from TM. 
Maybe the group could be renamed to something more in line with the subject 
matter here. 
It seems to be a pit of vipers and the insane.