from:"Robert"

'See It For Yourself'...the nature of the 'Unbounded Self'...

Beyond all the techniques whichy you have been taught...see it for  yourself 
for once and for all!

It's right there: 'Unity Consciousness' is right there all of the time, you ego 
just won't let you see it!

See what this little self wants from you?

Why won't it let you see the 'Unity That Exists'...

Look at a child or a baby and you will see that they are in Unity...

So seperation between baby and world, world and baby...

It's only when this little pesky thiing called the 'ego' developes and 
attatches itself to everything we seen or heard, then we are screwed ultimately 
screwed big time!

So, see it and one you see it, you can't 'unsee' it...

R.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> Today in the dome Maharishi spoke to someone who was describing his 
> 'flying/hopping' experience...
> Maharishi's voice changes when he talks about the 'flying Technique', I have 
> noticed...
> Anyway, he was saying to be aware of  where the 'Sense of "I"..' in the 
> 'Whole Process of hopping'...do you hear someone hopping next to you?
> Where do you feel this sense of 'I' is when you hear someone from outside of 
> you..
> Where is this sense of 'I' when you are hopping...
> When the body disappears or you feel like the body has disappeared where is 
> this sense of 'I' inside then?
> 
> Who is the 'I'...
> 
> Can you see that when you lose the small sense of 'I' when you see it for 
> what it is, and just drop it, then that starts a chain reaction and then the 
> small self collaspes under it's own pain, weight, judgement, all the things 
> of a limited nature...
> 
> The one has 'Awakened' to the fact that 'Seperation Never existed at All!' it 
> was just a figment of the imagination of this sense of the 'Little Egoic 
> I'...and when that is seen, you have 'Psssed Through the Gate' ]..as it 
> were...
> 
> And, 'Once something is seen, it cannot be Unseen!'...
> 
> R.
>

[FairfieldLife] 'Vedica Times for September 19, 2012

2012-09-19 Thread Robert

Today in the dome Maharishi spoke to someone who was describing his 
'flying/hopping' experience...
Maharishi's voice changes when he talks about the 'flying Technique', I have 
noticed...
Anyway, he was saying to be aware of  where the 'Sense of "I"..' in the 'Whole 
Process of hopping'...do you hear someone hopping next to you?
Where do you feel this sense of 'I' is when you hear someone from outside of 
you..
Where is this sense of 'I' when you are hopping...
When the body disappears or you feel like the body has disappeared where is 
this sense of 'I' inside then?

Who is the 'I'...

Can you see that when you lose the small sense of 'I' when you see it for what 
it is, and just drop it, then that starts a chain reaction and then the small 
self collaspes under it's own pain, weight, judgement, all the things of a 
limited nature...

The one has 'Awakened' to the fact that 'Seperation Never existed at All!' it 
was just a figment of the imagination of this sense of the 'Little Egoic 
I'...and when that is seen, you have 'Psssed Through the Gate' ]..as it were...

And, 'Once something is seen, it cannot be Unseen!'...

R.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: PS to Ann "I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!"

2012-09-18 Thread Robert



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:37 PM, curtisdeltablues <
> > curtisdeltablues@...> wrote
> >> I appreciate your taking a swing at it. I don't think much "spinning" is
> >> necessary. You gave the project so little thought. Any thoughtful person
> >> would understand what went down here. And it probably wasn't that you did
> >> some research beforehand to pick the 4th use of the term,and then used it
> >> improperly according to the dictionary, but properly for the first few
> >> definitions deliberately.
> >>
> >> You've just turned in sloppy work because of your over confidence and
> >> contempt for me.
> >>
> >
> > Curtis - it was a rhetorical question of mine to point to the deception,
> > manipulation, bullying you engage in here. Even if it meant literally I
> > would be nuts to think Sal would have meant any physical harm to Emily - so
> > no sloppy work here Curtis, contempt on my part - yes, your usual sleight
> > of hand - yes, your usual twisting, manipulating context  - yes, your seven
> > layered progressively cruder,baser,grosser deception - yes.
> >
> >>
> >> At least now I can go back to Raunchy's spin with some more insight into
> >> your thinking process.
> >>
> >> That later post about her spin was a classic.
> >>
> >> I'll bet you never got away stealing any curds and ghee, did you baby
> >> Krishna?
> >>
> >
> > LOL..OK this is seriously funny. Oh no I am very deceptive, but unlike you
> > it's not to maintain my self-deception.
> >
> > Anyway what a shame - a talented man like you has to resort to all this
> > drama !!!
> >
> > Looks like you need some love and attention - so XOXOXOXOXO - love ya baby.
> >
> > Ravi
> >
> >
> You reference to baby Krishna completely dissipated my anger but trust me
> Curtis baby I will keep coming after you. Even the Raakshasas temporarily
> won my divine Mother's favor by doing something similar, so no I will keep
> after you Curtis - my metaphorical Raakshasa of deception, my favorite, the
> 7 layered one. So I will - my mind now is too distracted reminiscing on my
> beloved and so I'm  not able to post much.
> 
While you are reminiscing on your beloved, be sure to take a break from 
hateing...that will help you begin to open your closed heart again, and get out 
of your head...
Feeding your anger with more anger is not the way, my friend...
And it will never be the way back to your Beloved...

So, take a break; a pepsi break,my good freind...
Read in the Bagavad Gita as Krishna says to Arjuna, 'Know Anger to be the Enemy 
here on Earth; and the need to over come our anger and hatred toward each 
other...so we may 'See' clearly, my great warriour one...

R.

[FairfieldLife] 'The Vedica Tmes' for September 18, 2012

2012-09-18 Thread Robert

Reporting from Vedica Iowa...
 
Maharishi, Speaking to the Dome today, via satelite, and tape..
Was speaking of the being and learning to stay in the 'Zone' as he put it...
 
Someone gave an experience of being in, what he called: 'The TM-Akashic Zone';
Where he could maintain his awareness for long periods of time...
 
He was saying that when he did the stutra, he would be himself as akasha and 
then the body and back again...
Back and forth he would experience the heaviness of the body sort of lighten 
up, until it became 'invisible'...
That would allow more bliss to flow through, he said...
 
Then he was doing his program all that night, and up to the next day, dawn and 
until noon, eventually...
He would 'feel' the dawn, and the energy increase towards noon, so that he felt 
that he could, 'float'...
 
Maharishi was sounded extremely please by this experience, and asked how many 
more were experiening this type of thing..
So, about 30 % raised their hands..
So, that was about 300 or so people...
 
So, he said that this type of 'Unity' experience would be good to practice so 
that it could be maintained all day and all night
And by [practicing peircing through the dull sleep would help to awaken even 
the darkest places of the mind, until all the dullness was melted away and 
there would always be unity, maintained, even during the dullest of sleep...
 
So, he said that this is what is the 'Silence within the silence'...the Silence 
of the self, in the Silence of the Eternal Being...
 
In a previous tape, Maharishi was also describing the difference between Brahm, 
Atma and Ahem...
That is 'Wholeness, Soul and the Ego or 'I'...
 
In this expandedness of Brahm, we begin to cognise from the soul, the nature of 
the Eternal Self, and the 'I' within that eternity, 
Experienced here on earth as...[Sat Chit Ananda] Absolute Bliss Consciousness..
 
Reporting from Fairfield,
R.

[FairfieldLife] Fw: 'Vedica City Times' for September 6th, 2012

2012-09-05 Thread Robert



 Today, I got to thinnkin' ...this guru dev dude, there's a lot I don't know 
about this Dude!!!eh
For, Instance, what the hell did he do for all years, all lone in the woods, 
all by himself, no femeals firends around to conforn t him...

And then I thought, wow this dude was really secretive about his 
whwere-abouts...
He could be anywhere, at any time...

What a dude...i thought so much  myself, like daring, dashihng just 
plane kewl...
 I hada new advernture to take to find out what and where he is now...

He might be living in FF, somewhere in the masssesss somewhere, I do not know 
when,

But, 'I Am' determened to fiedn him...5

Somehow I will find him living here in 'The Vedica City Times' for September 
 6the,  the year of the end of teh mahaya calier clock, tic tock...tock...

Good knites and God Bles...s yrs turnly Chaim.
'ONe Love, One Heart, lets goets gogether and Be Alright.

[FairfieldLife] My Report for September 5th, 2012- Vedica, Iowa

2012-09-05 Thread Robert

Here's my report for September 9th, 2012...
 
Just coming from the dome, I realized that there is a profound silence there...
And I do believe that this silence has some kind of infinite effect  on the 
world, so to speak.

So, what is called the 'Maharishi Effect' I believe to be true.
 
Now, as far as the techniques and all of that, I feel that sometimes they get 
carried a little bit to far...

And that sometimes people forget to transcend the techniques and get too much 
attached to the techniques themselves, and forget that they are seeking 
enlightenment...

(ie/ they feel it is more important to levitate than to be 
enlightened...getting caught up in the powers, so to speak)...
 
Now, the thing about Bevan, I now realize that I must forgive him for the ugly 
situation which I helped to create in that past life, or else I will just 
continue to create bad karma with him, and the samskara will not be relieved...
 
So, even though I still sometimes feel that Bevan is some kind of big fat 
eunuch, I will continue my work on forgiving him.
 
I realize now, that Maharishi in his infinite wisdom, saw the gift of 
propaganda that Bevan has, and that this is why he was chosen at this time, to 
represent the teaching...
 
So, that's my report for today, 
 
See ya' all back here tomorrow,
 
Chaim.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was the Maharishi confused? (or just being clever).

2012-09-05 Thread Robert

So, if the maharishi was teaching 'neo-hinduism'...
Then why was he so upset when the courts found TM to be a religion?

I remember how upset Jerry Jarvis was at the time...he had worked hard in the 
TMO and really wanted to see the thing taught in the schools and so on...

So, what I heard was that this produced a falling out between him(jerry) and 
the maharishi...
In that Maharishi didn't want to pay the lawyers who had represented the TMO in 
the court case...

Jerry being the moral guy that he is( and the only person that I know in the 
TMO who actually is enlightened)...
Jerry wanted to pay for the services, even though they had lost the case...so 
there was a falling out between them...

So, we all know who replaced Jerry...bevan from heaven as we used to call him...

Bevan became the 'Prime Minister of Propaganda' for the TMO, which he had lot's 
of experience with, as this was his posititon in his last life-
Where...he was regarded as a genius of propaganda for the 3rd Reich, at that 
time...

Cleverly the maharishi fattened him up so he would have a good costume to avoid 
being referenced to Prime Minister of Propaganda-   hier Joseph Goebbels

He also had him assume this really feminine voice which was also a good way to 
divert the attention from the usual loud and obnoxious 'Zeig Heil'...

I guess it was meant to be, because Jerry being the enlightened,  moral and 
normal married man,that he is, could never really go along with what was to 
come of the TMO...

Hier Bevan on the other hand loves to kiss ass and decieve the people, in all 
kinds of clever ways.. as this is what he is best at...

Just my humble opinion...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> MMY was an enigma, we don't know WHAT kind of meditation HE practiced nor do 
> we even know if HE, himself achieved what he taught. My belief is he was more 
> of a social reformer interested in instituting neo-hinduism throughout the 
> World much like Christian missionaries. (Is that really so bad? NO!)
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> >
> > "His followers called him Mahasamatman and said he was a god. He preferred 
> > to drop the Maha- and the -atman, however, and called himself Sam. He never 
> > claimed to be a god. But then, he never claimed not to be a god. 
> > Circumstances being what they were, neither admission could be of any 
> > benefit. Silence, though,
> > could.
> > Therefore, there was mystery about him."
> > 
> > 
> > -Lord of Light, by Roger Zelazny
> > 
> > http://arthursbookshelf.com/sci-fi/zelazny/Lord%20of%20Light%20-%20Roger%20Zelaz\
> > ny.pdf
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The thing is that the maharishi never got enlightened through 
> > > > > the use of techniques...
> > > > > He said that he got enlightened from being around an enlightened 
> > > > > person...Swami Brahmananda Saraswati...
> > > > 
> > > > Please provide even a single verifiable example of him
> > > > having said this, having claimed that he was either
> > > > enlightened, or that he "got there" via the method
> > > > you claim he cited.
> > > > 
> > > > I'll wait. Thanks in advance.
> > > 
> > > Agreed, never heard him say that! In fact MMY's state of consciousness is 
> > > unknown since he NEVER revealed what state he was in or even HOW he got 
> > > there (if he got there)! We don't know WHAT MMY himself practiced, 
> > > probably something completely different as far as we know
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Michelle

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

What a great opening night for the Dems...
Just shows the difference between the two parties...
The Dems being so soul-ful...
and the Repubs being so soul-less...

Michelle Obama we love you!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> >
> > I thought I was so over it.  
> > 
> > You know, jaded and armored now against all visions of others.  No bait 
> > could catch me now, nope.
> > 
> > MICHELLE!  
> > 
> > I'm still a total sucker for pure heartedness. I can still  be had.
> > 
> > Like tonight for instance.
> > 
> > Edg
> >
> 
> Awesome! Best First Lady speech ever! Signed sealed and delivered. Michelle, 
> we love you.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS2nfeN4DEw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Think Back to When You Bought the TM-Sidhis...

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

Yeah, but he tries to rationalize why it's possible to overcome gravity; and he 
knows he's not being honest about his own experience...
He contributes to the confusion that people feel about the whole thing...
The fact of the matter is that even though the two of them spent years and 
years with the maharishi, neither of them are enlightened...
They appear as clowns to most people who are not involved with the TMO.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> From what I understand, he's a very busy man.  He and David Lynch have gone 
> around the country, particularly in college campuses, to talk about TM.
> 
> If you're in transcendental consciousness, you're already floating from the 
> ordinary waking consciousness.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > If johnny hagelin knows so much about this, why is he never around fF 
> > anymore, at alland why isn't he floating, levitating, flying around as 
> > a demonstration of how much he 'knows'...
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Robert,
> > > 
> > > Science is already showing that the universe is based on the unified 
> > > field, which is Consciousness.  John Hagelin explains in this video:
> > > 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrcWntw9juM
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That sounds very cool John...
> > > > You believe it so, go with it John...
> > > > 
> > > > I just don't see how when the maharishi says that we become in tune 
> > > > with all the laws of nature in one breath...
> > > > And then in the next breath he says, let's now break the most 
> > > > fundemental law of nature, gravity, come on kids!
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > MMY was saying that everything is based on consciousness.  Yogic 
> > > > > flying is just one manifestation of how nature operates throughout 
> > > > > the universe.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Lorenzo"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > not only did say he was going to teach us how to fly - but we have 
> > > > > > already succeeded:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nQXVRjMoUE&feature=relmfu
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Think back...all those many years ago...
> > > > > > > Did the Maharishi say he was going to teach you to levitate,
> > > > > > > Or, did he say he was going to teach you to hop/hump like a frog?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gary Greenfield's eperience of teaching Iraq vet

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

I agree with Rick.
The technique is fine...it provides a way to get to subtler levels of 
thought...calms the body...all the things that are spoken about in the intro 
lecture...
But you eventually need to transcend all techniques to get enlightened...
The downfall comes when people get so stuck on the techniques that they forget 
what the original intention was for them to mediate to begin with...
Another downfall is thinking that the maharishi was some kind of god and that 
you need to pray to him in some way, and that he will come down from heaven and 
get you enlightened in some way...
which I see many in FF doing..
It's the same is saying: 'Did you except Maharishi into your heart'
And that he is the Son of God, and that the only way to heaven is through 
Maharishi...

Enlightenment comes when you can cut through the illuion of seperation.
You were born without the illusion present.
You lost your enlightenment when you developed a false sense of self, sometimes 
called the ego...
Enlightenment is simply seeing the ego, the false sense of self, as the cause 
of the feeling of seperation.
When the ego is seen for what it is, then you are enlightened.

You might not be able to levitate or predict the future, but once the ego is 
transcended, you my friend are enlightened.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> Thanks Robin. I must say that after 44 years of regular meditation, Iâve 
> gone through all sorts of phases, but never disillusionment. With MMY and the 
> TMO maybe, but not with my experience. Still an enjoyable twice daily 
> interlude, with benefits still accruing. 
> 
>  
> 
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Robin Carlsen
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 5:18 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gary Greenfield's eperience of teaching Iraq vet
> 
>  
> 
>   
> 
> Dear Rick,
> 
> Whatever are the long-term effects of TM, that first experience of 
> transcending, why it is not like anything that has ever existed--not in my 
> lifetime. We become attached to EXPERIENCE after this, and when the 
> experience becomes less beautiful and dramatic, and the benefits seem to be 
> receding, then we become disillusioned. [And there can even be serious 
> negative side-effects--especially in rounding.] But Transcendental Meditation 
> has the potential--more than anything else available in the world--to bring 
> about an instantaneous and miraculously innocent experience of GOING 
> SOMEWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN WHERE ONE HAS BEEN ALL OF ONE'S LIFE.
> 
> TM has this absolute value and effect: It takes one out of the physical and 
> mental context one is in--and just this very mechanical result: escape from 
> the the experience one has been embedded in as long as one can remember-this 
> is a glimpse of what is possible that is a presentiment of 'heaven'.
> 
> Even if it has never happened in the life of a single initiator. Heaven 
> inside self*. 
> 
> There are all kinds of problems that set in after awhile, but the truth of 
> the testimony here cannot be doubted. And this experience--every one of us 
> initiators has had something amazing happen inside of us because of TM and 
> Maharishi,--although it is not the final story, it is a reality which is part 
> of all of us. And it *changed* us. 
> 
> What is said in this letter must be incorporated into any retrospective view 
> of TM and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
> 
> You are to be commended, Rick, for making this truth known to us once again.
> 
> Robin
> 
> *I have known personally the simulated truth of this
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com  
> , "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 1:14 PM
> > 
> > 
> > Report of Remarkable Experience of Military Veteran Learning TM
> > 
> > Before attending Governor Recertification this past summer, Naomi and I 
> > were able to give intro/prep lecture presentations at two different 
> > veterans centers. Both were well received, and I went to Fairfield knowing 
> > we had veterans who wanted instruction in TM when we returnedÃ¢â¬Â¦and 
> > that most of them would need financial assistance to l
> > 
> > earn.
> > 
> > It was the personal interview with the last man, C.R., at the second 
> > lecture, that really sparked my passion for this effort. When I saw that 
> > there was no address filled in on his personal interview form, I 
> > diplomatically suggested he must have overlooked this line.
> > 
> > He barely looked up at me when he answered that he didnÃ¢â¬â¢t have an 
> > address. He had not worked in quite some time because he could not handle 
> > pressure, and he kept having meltdowns, getting into arguments, and even 
> > violent confrontations. And that stress had carried over into his home 
> > life, where he was constantly arguing with his wife when he wasnÃ¢â¬â¢t 
> > hiding from the world, shut up in

[FairfieldLife] 'How The Maharishi Got Enlightened'

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi speaking about Guru Dev

 
Question about Guru Dev Shankaracharya Swami Brahmanand Saraswati directed to 
Maharishi Mahesh Yogiin February 1969 at Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh, 
India: -
Inaudible question from woman with heavy accent, perhaps Scandinavian or 
German. Clearly the question was related to Guru Dev, Shankaracharya Swami 
Brahmanand Saraswati, and of spreading the teaching of meditation.
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi-Oh he must have known! [audience laughter]He never, 
nnn, he never said to me. Otherwise quite a lot of time would have been 
wasted in planning. [audience laughter, slow at first, then uproarious]He saved 
us from that waste, [audience and MMY still laughing]waste of planning. It just 
blossomed and blossomed and blossomed and blossomed.
Male questioner -Maharshi?
MMY -Yes?
Male questioner -You have said in the latter years Guru Dev initiated quite a 
number of people. Was he using the, the EXACT technique that you are using?
MMY -[pause]Must be using BETTER techniques [MMY laughing slightly] than I am 
using.
Same male questioner -Was he still using the long mantras and all of that?
Female in audience-Huh!
MMY -[pauses]It's very difficult for me to find out what he was using. 
[laughter from audience]Because initiation is all in private ... [he pauses and 
audience laughs, MMY giggles and laughs too]... And I was never interested who 
was given what mantra. I was interested in myself. [laughter and giggling]... 
Full of divine radiance. People don't have to do the mantra and meditation in 
his presence. [male member laughs]Just ... the transformation was in his air, 
so full of life ... Out of that fullness I started to teach. [MMY pauses, 
slight audience laughter] At least by practice people could rise and raise 
themselves up.*

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was the Maharishi confused? (or just being clever).

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

Maharishi said, 'I am unbounded awareness an almost infinite number of times...
He took the name of Maharishi which means great sage.
He said I have a technique to get you enlightened.
He claimed to have a technique that could have you levitate.
He claimed he could provide you with immortality.
He said that his teachings would provide for world peace.
He said that 'I am Brahm'
He has people in FF praying to him, daily.

So, did he never say he was enlightened? That's such a funny question, after 
all these years, that you think that it's a mystery whether he claimed to be 
enlightened or not...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The thing is that the maharishi never got enlightened through 
> > > the use of techniques...
> > > He said that he got enlightened from being around an enlightened 
> > > person...Swami Brahmananda Saraswati...
> > 
> > Please provide even a single verifiable example of him
> > having said this, having claimed that he was either
> > enlightened, or that he "got there" via the method
> > you claim he cited.
> > 
> > I'll wait. Thanks in advance.
> 
> Agreed, never heard him say that! In fact MMY's state of consciousness is 
> unknown since he NEVER revealed what state he was in or even HOW he got there 
> (if he got there)! We don't know WHAT MMY himself practiced, probably 
> something completely different as far as we know
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Think Back to When You Bought the TM-Sidhis...

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

If johnny hagelin knows so much about this, why is he never around fF anymore, 
at alland why isn't he floating, levitating, flying around as a 
demonstration of how much he 'knows'...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Robert,
> 
> Science is already showing that the universe is based on the unified field, 
> which is Consciousness.  John Hagelin explains in this video:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrcWntw9juM
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > That sounds very cool John...
> > You believe it so, go with it John...
> > 
> > I just don't see how when the maharishi says that we become in tune with 
> > all the laws of nature in one breath...
> > And then in the next breath he says, let's now break the most fundemental 
> > law of nature, gravity, come on kids!
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > MMY was saying that everything is based on consciousness.  Yogic flying 
> > > is just one manifestation of how nature operates throughout the universe.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Lorenzo"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > not only did say he was going to teach us how to fly - but we have 
> > > > already succeeded:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nQXVRjMoUE&feature=relmfu
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Think back...all those many years ago...
> > > > > Did the Maharishi say he was going to teach you to levitate,
> > > > > Or, did he say he was going to teach you to hop/hump like a frog?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was the Maharishi confused? (or just being clever).

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

I was just watching a tape of him yesterday saying just that...
I'm surprised you don't know this...
He was saying how he would watch guru dev, and be with guru dev and I am sure 
after a while, guru dev penetrated him to such an extent that he became 
free...liberated...

I'm not sure he ever said that he was enlightened...but he didn't need to say 
that...from my experience he walked around as though he was...he had the 'vibe' 
so to speak...

And he was representatives such as bevan that proclaims that he was the most 
enlightened man to ever walk the earth...like the he says he was the living 
emboidedment of brahm...

So, there ya' go...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > The thing is that the maharishi never got enlightened through 
> > the use of techniques...
> > He said that he got enlightened from being around an enlightened 
> > person...Swami Brahmananda Saraswati...
> 
> Please provide even a single verifiable example of him
> having said this, having claimed that he was either
> enlightened, or that he "got there" via the method
> you claim he cited.
> 
> I'll wait. Thanks in advance.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Was the Maharishi confused? (or just being clever).

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

The thing is that the maharishi never got enlightened through the use of 
techniques...
He said that he got enlightened from being around an enlightened person...Swami 
Brahmananda Saraswati...
Do I think he was clever?
Oh yeah!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u  wrote:
>
> Notice how MMY used to say that TM was all you needed to improve your life 
> and reach enlightenment? CC,GC and UC. So in his lectures he suggested that 
> all eight limbs of Patanjali weren't actually  necessary, right? They (Yama 
> and NIyama) were, as the tmorg still says, the 'ends' and not the 'means', 
> right?
>  
> But when you read MMY's Bhagavad Gita he says (in the appendix under Yoga) 
> that Patanjali meant for ALL eight limbs to be practiced *simultaneously* 
> (quote, MMY). Go figure? was MMY confused or just being clever? (I think the 
> later). 
> 
> So the question arises, "is this something a 'saint' would do"? and "do the 
> ends justify the means" as MMY so often made it appear?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

Oh, John, ya' know, no one really likes paying taxes John...
It's just that people like Romney get away with paying a smaller amount of 
their gross income, then those with lower incomes...

I know that song is on 'Revolver' I don't remember saying that it was on 
'Rubber Soul'...nice to see that you are a Beatles fan!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Actually, I fully realize all of the Beatles are,er were,Â quite liberal, but 
> somebody(Harrison) sure resented be taxed for every little thing, as I 
> do,enough to write a song and get it on a Beatles Album. BTY It wasn't Rubber 
> Soul,it was Revolver(you're slipping Robert, you should have caught that.)
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: Robert 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 11:25 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
>   
> 
> Â   
>  
> One more thing, since you mentioned George Harrison, if you really think that 
> he would side with the Republican agenda, just because he wrote a song in 
> 1966 called 'Taxman'?
> If you really think he would, then you are more deluded than I thought...
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > Ok, you vote for Romney...
> > And I'll vote for Obama...
> > 
> > Whom do you feel that The Maharishi would vote for...I'm just curious...
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > You seem to exhibit a lot of fear, just through the posts on this thread. 
> > > You hate millionaires, even though they pay hundreds, thousands more tax 
> > > dollars than you'll ever earn in your life time, yet also provide jobs 
> > > for everybody else and produce goods and services for all of us to use 
> > > and you call them slave masters? They aren't the slave masters, it's the 
> > > people in Washington DC who take the moneyÃÂ you earnedÃÂ and give it 
> > > to somebody who didn't work for it, usually to get their vote. A slave 
> > > produces, the massa takes it away. When the slave realizes he can't enjoy 
> > > the fruits of his labor, he slows down and produces less and lessÃÂ and 
> > > with total justification.Talk about nickel and dime-ing everyone to 
> > > death, try listening to your Beatles song *Tax Man*(Rubber Soul), but 
> > > then we all *know* George Harrison was a greedy soul:). We could probably 
> > > do with a lot fewer prisons if the people that are in there would have 
> > > taken a little more interest
>  in their
> > >  *free public education* and learned a skill instead of depending on the 
> > > sweat of somebody else's brow to provide for them, one way or another. A 
> > > culture of dependency breeds crime. It destroys self reliance and 
> > > creativity, something Maharishi tried to instill in us.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Robert 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 11:54 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ÃÂ  
> > > 
> > > Who has more fear? People who are millionaires and need to pay less 
> > > taxes, and who are supporting Romney..
> > > or people who just want to elect someone who has a heart, and will do the 
> > > best he can to overcome these slave masters that ship jobs overseas and 
> > > nickel and dime everyone to death...who rattle their sabers so they can 
> > > make a killing on killiing and who love to spend money on prisons rather 
> > > than on education...
> > > Come on you're really not that stupid; it's just a bad habit I think...of 
> > > supporting these slave masters...
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's called *race-baiting*. Had Biden been speaking in front of Jews he 
> > > > probably would have said "they'll send you back to the gas chambers", 
> > > > to Native Americans, "they'll put you back on the rez" or to Japanese 
> > > > -Americans, "They'll send you back to the internment camps". Regardless 
> > > > of where he was going, the intent was to play on the emotions 
> > > > ofÃâÃÂ  Afr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

You got that one right, John...very good!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Maharishi would vote for whoever would give him money or atleast advance TM.
> 
>  
> 
> ____
>  From: Robert 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 8:44 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
>   
> 
>  
> Â   
>  
> Ok, you vote for Romney...
> And I'll vote for Obama...
> 
> Whom do you feel that The Maharishi would vote for...I'm just curious...
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > You seem to exhibit a lot of fear, just through the posts on this thread. 
> > You hate millionaires, even though they pay hundreds, thousands more tax 
> > dollars than you'll ever earn in your life time, yet also provide jobs for 
> > everybody else and produce goods and services for all of us to use and you 
> > call them slave masters? They aren't the slave masters, it's the people in 
> > Washington DC who take the moneyÃÂ you earnedÃÂ and give it to somebody 
> > who didn't work for it, usually to get their vote. A slave produces, the 
> > massa takes it away. When the slave realizes he can't enjoy the fruits of 
> > his labor, he slows down and produces less and lessÃÂ and with total 
> > justification.Talk about nickel and dime-ing everyone to death, try 
> > listening to your Beatles song *Tax Man*(Rubber Soul), but then we all 
> > *know* George Harrison was a greedy soul:). We could probably do with a lot 
> > fewer prisons if the people that are in there would have taken a little 
> > more interest in
>  their
> >  *free public education* and learned a skill instead of depending on the 
> > sweat of somebody else's brow to provide for them, one way or another. A 
> > culture of dependency breeds crime. It destroys self reliance and 
> > creativity, something Maharishi tried to instill in us.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Robert 
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 11:54 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > 
> > 
> > ÃÂ  
> > 
> > Who has more fear? People who are millionaires and need to pay less taxes, 
> > and who are supporting Romney..
> > or people who just want to elect someone who has a heart, and will do the 
> > best he can to overcome these slave masters that ship jobs overseas and 
> > nickel and dime everyone to death...who rattle their sabers so they can 
> > make a killing on killiing and who love to spend money on prisons rather 
> > than on education...
> > Come on you're really not that stupid; it's just a bad habit I think...of 
> > supporting these slave masters...
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's called *race-baiting*. Had Biden been speaking in front of Jews he 
> > > probably would have said "they'll send you back to the gas chambers", to 
> > > Native Americans, "they'll put you back on the rez" or to Japanese 
> > > -Americans, "They'll send you back to the internment camps". Regardless 
> > > of where he was going, the intent was to play on the emotions ofÃâÃÂ  
> > > African- Americans in order to evoke outrage and fear. The last thing 
> > > Biden wants is for them to *think* about 14-15% unemployment among Black 
> > > Americans. Seems to me that Democrats highly criticized Bush for waging a 
> > > campaign of fear in 2004 and the same for McCain. Now the shoe is on the 
> > > other foot.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Robert 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 7:48 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ÃâÃÂ  
> > > 
> > > Biden was saying that Romney would give more power to the Banksters and 
> > > Wall Streeters so that we would all be slaves to their greedy and devious 
> > > ways...
> > > This is what Biden was sayin'...my dear friend.
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > He also indicated Romney wouyld put *blacks* back in chains.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: John 
> > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:22 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ÃÆ'Ã¢â¬Å¡ÃâÃÂ  
> > > > 
> > > > On the camgaign trail, Biden states this is Romney's intent if elected 
> > > > president.
> > > > 
> > > > http://news.yahoo.com/biden-romney-wants-war-syria-iran-172932280--election.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Think Back to When You Bought the TM-Sidhis...

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

That sounds very cool John...
You believe it so, go with it John...

I just don't see how when the maharishi says that we become in tune with all 
the laws of nature in one breath...
And then in the next breath he says, let's now break the most fundemental law 
of nature, gravity, come on kids!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> MMY was saying that everything is based on consciousness.  Yogic flying is 
> just one manifestation of how nature operates throughout the universe.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Lorenzo"  wrote:
> >
> > not only did say he was going to teach us how to fly - but we have already 
> > succeeded:
> > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nQXVRjMoUE&feature=relmfu
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Think back...all those many years ago...
> > > Did the Maharishi say he was going to teach you to levitate,
> > > Or, did he say he was going to teach you to hop/hump like a frog?
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hate Pundits

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

Anyway, your story reminds me of what 'Hitler' did...
And that was not a sci-fi story...
Strange as it sounds that really happened...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> yes.
> It's not good to hate; better to love.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Taking a complete break from FFL and its sillinesses, I went out for a
> > walk with my dogs and, while on it, came up with a plot for a scifi
> > story. Because I've already copyrighted it, I'll share the idea with you
> > while it's still fresh in my mind.
> > 
> > The story is set in a slightly alternate reality to our own, because
> > even when "suspending disbelief" normal people in our reality could
> > never imagine that such things could happen. In this alternate reality,
> > people who have developed long-standing grudges against or hatreds
> > towards someone they obsess on, but who cannot afford socially to be
> > perceived as being as obsessive as they really are, recruit proxies to
> > do their hating for them.
> > 
> > They seek our weak-willed, weak-minded, needy people and suck up to
> > them, buttering them up with praise and compliments and flirting with
> > them shamelessly and giving them lots and lots and lots of attention.
> > Which is, of course, the very thing that needy people feel that they
> > need.
> > 
> > After a period of doing this, the recruiter introduces the concept of
> > the Dharmic Enemy, the person who represents all of the things that he
> > or she considers -- and thus by *assumption* the newly-recruited needy
> > person considers as well -- the antithesis of all that is holy and
> > spiritual and lofty.
> > 
> > The new recruits are taught to chant holy...uh...chants. (I can't think
> > yet of what to call them for the actual short story, but maybe "mantras"
> > or "yagyas" or something Newagey like that.) The chants list the evil,
> > terrible, horrible, lower-than-the-lint-in-a-snake's-navel qualities of
> > the Dharmic Enemy, and are taught in a kind of call-and-response,
> > I-stroke-you-when-you-get-it-right manner. And, of course, in this
> > alternate reality, it works. The new recruits get so *into* chanting
> > these holy mantras/chants/yagyas to dispel the evil, terrible, horrible,
> > lower-than-the-lint-in-a-snake's-navel Dharmic Enemy from their midst
> > that they eventually wind up doing it on their own.
> > 
> > Then the recruiter just kicks back and allows the new recruits to do his
> > or her hating for him or her.
> > 
> > Think this story idea would sell, or is it too far-fetched even for the
> > scifi market?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Hate Pundits

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

yes.
It's not good to hate; better to love.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> Taking a complete break from FFL and its sillinesses, I went out for a
> walk with my dogs and, while on it, came up with a plot for a scifi
> story. Because I've already copyrighted it, I'll share the idea with you
> while it's still fresh in my mind.
> 
> The story is set in a slightly alternate reality to our own, because
> even when "suspending disbelief" normal people in our reality could
> never imagine that such things could happen. In this alternate reality,
> people who have developed long-standing grudges against or hatreds
> towards someone they obsess on, but who cannot afford socially to be
> perceived as being as obsessive as they really are, recruit proxies to
> do their hating for them.
> 
> They seek our weak-willed, weak-minded, needy people and suck up to
> them, buttering them up with praise and compliments and flirting with
> them shamelessly and giving them lots and lots and lots of attention.
> Which is, of course, the very thing that needy people feel that they
> need.
> 
> After a period of doing this, the recruiter introduces the concept of
> the Dharmic Enemy, the person who represents all of the things that he
> or she considers -- and thus by *assumption* the newly-recruited needy
> person considers as well -- the antithesis of all that is holy and
> spiritual and lofty.
> 
> The new recruits are taught to chant holy...uh...chants. (I can't think
> yet of what to call them for the actual short story, but maybe "mantras"
> or "yagyas" or something Newagey like that.) The chants list the evil,
> terrible, horrible, lower-than-the-lint-in-a-snake's-navel qualities of
> the Dharmic Enemy, and are taught in a kind of call-and-response,
> I-stroke-you-when-you-get-it-right manner. And, of course, in this
> alternate reality, it works. The new recruits get so *into* chanting
> these holy mantras/chants/yagyas to dispel the evil, terrible, horrible,
> lower-than-the-lint-in-a-snake's-navel Dharmic Enemy from their midst
> that they eventually wind up doing it on their own.
> 
> Then the recruiter just kicks back and allows the new recruits to do his
> or her hating for him or her.
> 
> Think this story idea would sell, or is it too far-fetched even for the
> scifi market?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

It's easy for them to send their sons here...
Hell, everyone wants to come to Amerika!
But isn't there someone over there in India with lots of $$$ that wants to hand 
it over?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > I wonder how many people in India have contributed to the 
> > maharishi cause?
> 
> I think we can count at least 556 mothers, who sold
> their sons into indentured servitude. 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 
> > > > > Pandits with passports who will be coming to Maharishi 
> > > > > Vedic City to finally achieve our 30-year goal of securing 
> > > > > the daily Super Radiance numbers of 2,000 in Fairfield 
> > > > > and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was initiated
> > > > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand 
> > > > > the Pandit campus facilities to accommodate them.
> > > >
> > > > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is 
> > > > inspiring and heartwarming that so many of you responded 
> > > > to the call. We have received $350,000 since the campaign 
> > > > began last montha huge accomplishment.
> > > 
> > > Especially for an organization with over a billion dollars 
> > > in assets.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "There's a sucker born every minute."  - P. T. Barnum
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Super Radiance in Fairfield, Securing our 30-Year Goal

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

I wonder how many people in India have contributed to the maharishi cause?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Last month we sent the wonderful news that there are 556 Pandits
> > > with passports who will be coming to Maharishi Vedic City to finally
> > > achieve our 30-year goal of securing the daily Super Radiance
> numbers
> > > of 2,000 in Fairfield and Maharishi Vedic City. A campaign was
> initiated
> > > to cover the costs to bring the Pandits here and expand the Pandit
> > > campus facilities to accommodate them.
> >
> > The campaign thus far has been a great success. It is inspiring and
> > heartwarming that so many of you responded to the call. We have
> > received $350,000 since the campaign began last montha huge
> > accomplishment.
> 
> Especially for an organization with over a billion dollars in assets.
> 
> 
> "There's a sucker born every minute."  - P. T. Barnum
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

It is true that it can be difficult to be around the heartless..

I just wish the maharishi had them focus a little more on compassion and a 
little less with the other thing...

that would have shown that he had a little more compassion for the slaves and a 
lot less contempt.

I'm glad your here Curtis; and I will say again that piece you wrote was really 
great!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > I would have complimented you on your hair, but since I can't see you that 
> > would have been difficult...
> > 
> > I really liked the piece you wrote about the autistic boy...
> > I used to work with autisic people and they really touched my heart as I 
> > was reading in your piece that your heart had been touched also...
> > That is what I meant by good soul...that you had a heart...
> > 
> > I do remember the times I spent with the Maharishi he seemed to have a big 
> > and open heart...
> > But, with many of the meditators I meet there seemes to be a space where a 
> > heart should be...
> > 
> > I hope I've made your day, dear Curtis!
> 
> 
> I can't imagine working day in and day out with people this challenged.  I 
> think you are the biggest heart in this exchange.  I do some shows for 
> special needs kids.  They are always my most emotionally moving.  But they 
> also put me in contact with the kind of people who work there day in and day 
> out and they are made of much stouter stuff than I am.
> 
> Thanks for the nice response and I'll accept your intention to compliment my 
> hair if you had seen it, but I hope you will take my work for its 
> fabulousness...oh wait...I seem to be afflicted with some hat hair from my 
> spitfire cap.  Damn you hat hair!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I hope this makes some sense, and can help Curtis, because I feel that 
> > > > you are a good soul, and putting yourself through stuff that is 
> > > > unnecessary.
> > > > 
> > > > Whatever you feel about this word 'Maharishi' and all the feelings it 
> > > > brings up for you, if you can see the attachment to this word, within 
> > > > yourself, you will be a lot clearer about the whole thing.
> > > 
> > > I'm not too sure what you might be referring to.  My piece was about what 
> > > happens to people with too much adulation.  I enjoyed writing it.
> > > 
> > > As far as my feelings about the word "Maharishi", I don't have any.  What 
> > > I was writing about was a real guy, he was my boss for my first important 
> > > job.  I am quite fond of the guy but he could be a real douche too and my 
> > > writing usually reflects both sides of him with a definite bias toward 
> > > the douchy side because that is my perspective on him now as a more 
> > > mature adult.  Turq's point as I understand was that people didn't need 
> > > to attack me personally because I spoke about Maharishi from my own 
> > > perspective.  But that is FFL and I know that before I hit send. Their 
> > > view of the guy is none of my business unless they would like to share 
> > > it.  (If they do decide to share it I would highly recommend the 
> > > technique of referring at least to a treesome, or if they want to follow 
> > > my lead, a foursome, because that can really spice otherwise lackluster 
> > > writing up.  Try it and see!) 
> > > 
> > > Now as far as saying I am a "good soul", and I hope I am not being too 
> > > needy here, could you amp up the compliment a tad?  I mean only guys like 
> > > Hitler get called a "bad soul" because the soul by its very nature is 
> > > good right?  I mean the whole concept is that this is the part of us that 
> > > is eternal and godlike so aren't you really saying that the only part of 
> > > me that is any good is the part of me I have no control over?
> > > 
> > > And this particularly stings because I was really fishing for a 
> > > compliment on how I have been doing my hair lately.  You see I have taken 
> > > the lead from that hunky guy on the mentalist (I don't know his name 
> > > because I am walking a pretty fine gay line here as it is) and have grown 
> > > my hair out.  Thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

I would have complimented you on your hair, but since I can't see you that 
would have been difficult...

I really liked the piece you wrote about the autistic boy...
I used to work with autisic people and they really touched my heart as I was 
reading in your piece that your heart had been touched also...
That is what I meant by good soul...that you had a heart...

I do remember the times I spent with the Maharishi he seemed to have a big and 
open heart...
But, with many of the meditators I meet there seemes to be a space where a 
heart should be...

I hope I've made your day, dear Curtis!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> 
> > I hope this makes some sense, and can help Curtis, because I feel that you 
> > are a good soul, and putting yourself through stuff that is unnecessary.
> > 
> > Whatever you feel about this word 'Maharishi' and all the feelings it 
> > brings up for you, if you can see the attachment to this word, within 
> > yourself, you will be a lot clearer about the whole thing.
> 
> I'm not too sure what you might be referring to.  My piece was about what 
> happens to people with too much adulation.  I enjoyed writing it.
> 
> As far as my feelings about the word "Maharishi", I don't have any.  What I 
> was writing about was a real guy, he was my boss for my first important job.  
> I am quite fond of the guy but he could be a real douche too and my writing 
> usually reflects both sides of him with a definite bias toward the douchy 
> side because that is my perspective on him now as a more mature adult.  
> Turq's point as I understand was that people didn't need to attack me 
> personally because I spoke about Maharishi from my own perspective.  But that 
> is FFL and I know that before I hit send. Their view of the guy is none of my 
> business unless they would like to share it.  (If they do decide to share it 
> I would highly recommend the technique of referring at least to a treesome, 
> or if they want to follow my lead, a foursome, because that can really spice 
> otherwise lackluster writing up.  Try it and see!) 
> 
> Now as far as saying I am a "good soul", and I hope I am not being too needy 
> here, could you amp up the compliment a tad?  I mean only guys like Hitler 
> get called a "bad soul" because the soul by its very nature is good right?  I 
> mean the whole concept is that this is the part of us that is eternal and 
> godlike so aren't you really saying that the only part of me that is any good 
> is the part of me I have no control over?
> 
> And this particularly stings because I was really fishing for a compliment on 
> how I have been doing my hair lately.  You see I have taken the lead from 
> that hunky guy on the mentalist (I don't know his name because I am walking a 
> pretty fine gay line here as it is) and have grown my hair out.  This lets me 
> use old school hair products like Groom and Clean and the American Crew 
> Pomade they use on Madmen.  Anywhoo the sides of my hair are kind of feathery 
> like his and I'm really feeling kind of good about the whole thing, but all I 
> get are these lukewarm compliments on my soul!  So I a may be enlightened 
> about Maharishi with the attachment thing a little but I am kind of attached 
> to my new hair style.  But in my defense the style itself is an imitation of 
> a carefree push your hair back with your hands style so popular in noir 
> movies (or anything with Christian Slater in it if you are not an TCM channel 
> addict like I am).
> 
> So if you do sincerely want to "help" me is it really too much to ask for a 
> mention of what a great hair day I'm having?  (Not trying to load the deck or 
> anything but it might interest you to know that half way through my day a 
> curl escapes in the front of my hair and creeps down my forehead in a way 
> reminiscent of that period of Elvis's life between his young hot stage and 
> before he looked like he ate himself.  This curl is in no way affected or 
> deliberate and happens magically by itself in a most satisfying "I am not so 
> vain that I did this on purpose" manor.) And no it doesn't look like that 
> Michal Jackson front curl either and I'm just a little surprised you would 
> bring that up.  I only stopped wearing my black grief glove last week and it 
> is a little too soon for Michal Jackson references.  His front curl had many 
> curls in it like Dianna Ross and is not the most masculine thing in the world 
> if you catch my drift...Oh, you didn't (coughspoofter).  Did that help?  No I 
> wasn't coughing I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Think Back to When You Bought the TM-Sidhis...

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

Oh, I see...
You mean when the Maharishi said that we would be 'In Tune with All the Laws of 
Nature'...
He meant that although gravity is a primary law of nature, we were going to 
negate it...
We were going to be in tune with all the laws of nature, and then we were going 
to break the basic law of nature called gravity...

Thanks for the video...like I never heard that one before...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Lorenzo"  wrote:
>
> not only did say he was going to teach us how to fly - but we have already 
> succeeded:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nQXVRjMoUE&feature=relmfu
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > Think back...all those many years ago...
> > Did the Maharishi say he was going to teach you to levitate,
> > Or, did he say he was going to teach you to hop/hump like a frog?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Think Back to When You Bought the TM-Sidhis...

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

Think back...all those many years ago...
Did the Maharishi say he was going to teach you to levitate,
Or, did he say he was going to teach you to hop/hump like a frog?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

Yeah, but what did  your mother say about it?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> I'm not responsible for what people want to interpret "hopping like a frog" 
> as, and neither is MMY.
> 
> In fact, our TM-Sidhis Administrator made sure we knew MMY's response to 
> claims from someone that they had floated: MMY's response was always: "what 
> did your neighbor see?"
> 
> 
> L.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > I feel that one of the biggest mood-making thing(s) that ever happened,  
> > this side of the Mississippi...
> > Thinking that you are levitating, when you are actually just 
> > humping/hopping around...
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, not exactly. An enlightened person, by definition, cannot fail to 
> > > be "authentic."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Mood-making is more along the lines of being nice not because you think 
> > > it good to be nice, or because your religion says to try to be nice, but 
> > > because you think that you are going to be more enlightened by behaving 
> > > like enlightened people do.
> > > 
> > > 1) ain't going to happen that way anyway (good works alone, and all that);
> > > 2) it is impossible to be sure how an enlightened person would behave in 
> > > a given situation anyway, so it's a futile thing to attempt;
> > > 3) it can lead to truly self-destructive (in the usual sense of the word) 
> > > behavior by setting up a veneer of tolerance on your part for things that 
> > > shouldn't be tolerated if only for the sake of your health and the health 
> > > of others.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > L
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > H. Alright then, in that context, "mood making" speaks to lack of 
> > > > authenticity in how we conduct ourselves. Â That applies to us all I 
> > > > guess - and I note that Ravi has refuted his "Yogi" status. Â He is a 
> > > > "bhogi" now :) I also don't understand this focus on thinking only 
> > > > "happy, happy thoughts." Â Why deny ourselves the full range of 
> > > > thoughts and emotions - often, in my life, the painful ones have forced 
> > > > movement. Â 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: sparaig 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 8:19 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to 
> > > > Happen
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Â  
> > > > "Mood-making" in TM-speak refers to trying to pretend to yourself 
> > > > (and/or others) that you are enlightened by attempting to behave in the 
> > > > way you think someone who is enlightened behaves.
> > > > 
> > > > There's nothing wrong with "mood-making" per se, only with the 
> > > > TM-related version, which is counter-enlightenment, since enlightenment 
> > > > includes being fully spontaneous at all times, simply by its very 
> > > > nature.
> > > > 
> > > > L
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Share: Is there something wrong with "mood making?" ÃÂ For example, 
> > > > > music, art, meditation, incense, candles, poetry, movies, only 
> > > > > thinking "happy, happy" thoughts, all function to "mood make." ÃÂ 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: Share Long 
> > > > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:28 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting 
> > > > > to Happen
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ÃÂ  
> > > > > dearest Nephewji, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am indeed SO proud of your restraint language wise as well as all 
> > > > > your efforts to make the world safe for not bots, if we may call them 
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Hitler' the 'Germans' and Attachment

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

In this example, the words 'indentification' and 'attachment' essentially mean 
the same thing...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> Here is a classic example of attachment...
> 
> From the period of 1933-1945, the German people became very attached to this 
> concept of Adolf Hitler...
> 
> Hitler himself had become very attached to this idea that was the one and 
> only savior of the German people...
> 
> Ceverly using all of their pain and prejudice to justify his notion...
> 
> So, they praised him in all ways possible, changing their whole world view, 
> giving him their very lives, in the process...
> 
> How strong this attachment was, that it left most of Europe in ashes, 
> millions of people dead, untold pain and suffering around the world.
> 
> By the end of the war, their attachment had finally been broken...after they 
> were completely and utterly destroyed.
> 
> Now, in Germany, you can't even utter the word 'Hitler' without getting into 
> some kind of trouble, because it is against their law, to praise Hitler in 
> any way...or even mention his name.
> 
> So, you see, that attachment is kind of a bi-polar thing...
> It's never neutral, you either love and would die for it, or you are 
> completely repelled by it...
> 
> So, seeing attachment for what it is, how is mixes with the ego, this sense 
> of self,  is the whole key to releasing it once and for all...
> 
> Once you see how the ego attaches itself, how this sense of 'I' attaches 
> itself and can see it for what it is, this is how enlightenment comes about.
>

[FairfieldLife] 'Hitler' the 'Germans' and Attachment

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

Here is a classic example of attachment...

>From the period of 1933-1945, the German people became very attached to this 
>concept of Adolf Hitler...

Hitler himself had become very attached to this idea that was the one and only 
savior of the German people...

Ceverly using all of their pain and prejudice to justify his notion...

So, they praised him in all ways possible, changing their whole world view, 
giving him their very lives, in the process...

How strong this attachment was, that it left most of Europe in ashes, millions 
of people dead, untold pain and suffering around the world.

By the end of the war, their attachment had finally been broken...after they 
were completely and utterly destroyed.

Now, in Germany, you can't even utter the word 'Hitler' without getting into 
some kind of trouble, because it is against their law, to praise Hitler in any 
way...or even mention his name.

So, you see, that attachment is kind of a bi-polar thing...
It's never neutral, you either love and would die for it, or you are completely 
repelled by it...

So, seeing attachment for what it is, how is mixes with the ego, this sense of 
self,  is the whole key to releasing it once and for all...

Once you see how the ego attaches itself, how this sense of 'I' attaches itself 
and can see it for what it is, this is how enlightenment comes about.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret

2012-09-04 Thread Robert

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> The fascinating thing from my point of view, Curtis, is that
> Nabby (and possibly a few others here) go ballistic and react
> as if you had attacked *them* because you were less than guru-
> whipped and treated Maharishi just like any other person.
> 
> Their level of identification with and attachment to *him* is so
> great that they really can't tell the difference any more between
> someone criticizing him and someone criticizing them. Let alone
> the difference between criticism and "attack."
>(snip)

So, herein lies the answer; you couldn't have stated it more clearly...
Before one is enlightened, there is this thing called 'Indentification'...
It's the small self, the ego, identifying with something, to which it has 
become attached.
Like you are saying, it has little to do with the focus of the attachment, but 
more to do with attachment itself...

This is one thing that The Maharishi left out of the teaching; that is how to 
get out of this thing called attachment...

In a way it is worse than an addiction, because in the case of addiction, at 
least most people know that they are addicted...

Attachment is much more subtle, in that one doesn't even see how attached one 
is...

One actually believes they are being attacked, when no one is being attacked...

It's just the attachment that is being called into question.

I hope this makes some sense, and can help Curtis, because I feel that you are 
a good soul, and putting yourself through stuff that is unnecessary.

Whatever you feel about this word 'Maharishi' and all the feelings it brings up 
for you, if you can see the attachment to this word, within yourself, you will 
be a lot clearer about the whole thing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Heroic Fairfield Meditators

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

On the other hand, perhaps some are there to get 'enlightned' some others are 
there to 'levitate' and some are there to collect the money...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> ...They offered themselves willingly to death in a cause vital and dear to 
> humanity; and what is more a cause they comprehended as such, and looking at 
> it in all its bearings and its consequences, solemnly pledged to it all that 
> they had and were When I think of what these men suffered and did...I 
> marvel with a wonder which is admiration We have come here, friends, not 
> for things that die, but for things that cannot die For human History is 
> not a Dead Sea, it is a flowing river
> 
> 
> Re: If you believed that you had THE solution to world peace, what could you 
> justify
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > Meanwhile, what strikes me about this thread is that no
> > one has commented on its Subject. There is simply nothing
> > on planet Earth more scary than someone who believes that
> > they have "the solution to world peace." That belief has
> > been the source of more wars and more suffering than
> > anything else in human history.
> >
> 
> Okay, Dear Turq;
> I fervently know that the Field effect of practicing meditation will solve 
> most,
> yes all human conditions of problems ultimately. The science of course is
> abundant on this and it is my experience spiritually too. I stand on this like
> a rock. It is my sword and shield. This is a different kind of fight we are in
> presently, bringing light to the darkness of ignorance everywhere. Join with
> us. This is the best of spiritual war we wage on the ignorant in the best of
> interests of everyone. It has been said that war is hell, this war is the
> noblest of causes. Ours is the last battle of Peace everywhere. It may require
> some sacrifice. Now is not the time to shirk away. Join now with the Field
> Effect, come with us to meditation.
> Kindly,
> -Buck in the Dome
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Buck in Dome down the hill, I'll remember this when I'm tempted to 
> > > skip evening Dome 
> > > 
> > > Share in Dome up on ridge also inspired by the heroes and heroesses
> > 
> > yes, many who have come to meditate in the community commonly hold these 
> > strong heroic traits.  It is part of what makes Fairfield special and 
> > spiritually quite interesting.
> > Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti,
> > Buck 
> > 
> > 
> > > on FFL who 
> > > 
> > > defend those with none else
> > > 
> > > raise teens singlehandedly with humor and compassion
> > > 
> > > brave taiphoons, earthquakes, death with a big grin and poetry
> > > face ones past head on ruthlessly and gracefully
> > > 
> > > create incredible forums and interview cool peeps
> > > continue to share beautiful crop circles even tho others mock
> > > give lurkive support and laughter
> > > 
> > > etc
> > > Sure I missed someone
> > > please add to listÂ  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Buck 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:33 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Heroic Fairfield Meditators
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Â  
> > > The people who came to Fairfield to meditate
> > > are they more heroes or bystanders?
> > > 
> > > "Empathy, or care or concern for others, runs high in people with heroic 
> > > tendencies,"
> > > 
> > > "A tendency to frame events positively and expect good outcomes is 
> > > another hallmark of heroes,"
> > > 
> > > "Heroic people also tend to have a strong sense of ethics and 
> > > above-average coping skillsâ"a belief in their ability to tackle 
> > > challenges and beat the odds, research shows."
> > > 
> > > "Values that inspire heroism are often taught in childhood;"Â  
> > > 
> > > http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/PJ-BJ215_WORKFA_NS_20120821222902.jpg
> > > 
> > > WSJ article on traits between heroes or bystanders,
> > > 
> > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1872396390443989204577603341710975650.html#project%3DWORKFAM0822%26articleTabs%3Darticle
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The courage factor:
> > > 
> > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1872396390443989204577603341710975650.html#project%3DWORKFAM0822%26articleTabs%3Dinteractive
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

One more thing, since you mentioned George Harrison, if you really think that 
he would side with the Republican agenda, just because he wrote a song in 1966 
called 'Taxman'?
If you really think he would, then you are more deluded than I thought...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> Ok, you vote for Romney...
> And I'll vote for Obama...
> 
> Whom do you feel that The Maharishi would vote for...I'm just curious...
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > You seem to exhibit a lot of fear, just through the posts on this thread. 
> > You hate millionaires, even though they pay hundreds, thousands more tax 
> > dollars than you'll ever earn in your life time, yet also provide jobs for 
> > everybody else and produce goods and services for all of us to use and you 
> > call them slave masters? They aren't the slave masters, it's the people in 
> > Washington DC who take the moneyÂ you earnedÂ and give it to somebody who 
> > didn't work for it, usually to get their vote. A slave produces, the massa 
> > takes it away. When the slave realizes he can't enjoy the fruits of his 
> > labor, he slows down and produces less and lessÂ and with total 
> > justification.Talk about nickel and dime-ing everyone to death, try 
> > listening to your Beatles song *Tax Man*(Rubber Soul), but then we all 
> > *know* George Harrison was a greedy soul:). We could probably do with a lot 
> > fewer prisons if the people that are in there would have taken a little 
> > more interest in their
> >  *free public education* and learned a skill instead of depending on the 
> > sweat of somebody else's brow to provide for them, one way or another. A 
> > culture of dependency breeds crime. It destroys self reliance and 
> > creativity, something Maharishi tried to instill in us.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Robert 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 11:54 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> >   
> > 
> > Â   
> >  
> > Who has more fear? People who are millionaires and need to pay less taxes, 
> > and who are supporting Romney..
> > or people who just want to elect someone who has a heart, and will do the 
> > best he can to overcome these slave masters that ship jobs overseas and 
> > nickel and dime everyone to death...who rattle their sabers so they can 
> > make a killing on killiing and who love to spend money on prisons rather 
> > than on education...
> > Come on you're really not that stupid; it's just a bad habit I think...of 
> > supporting these slave masters...
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > It's called *race-baiting*. Had Biden been speaking in front of Jews he 
> > > probably would have said "they'll send you back to the gas chambers", to 
> > > Native Americans, "they'll put you back on the rez" or to Japanese 
> > > -Americans, "They'll send you back to the internment camps". Regardless 
> > > of where he was going, the intent was to play on the emotions ofÃÂ  
> > > African- Americans in order to evoke outrage and fear. The last thing 
> > > Biden wants is for them to *think* about 14-15% unemployment among Black 
> > > Americans. Seems to me that Democrats highly criticized Bush for waging a 
> > > campaign of fear in 2004 and the same for McCain. Now the shoe is on the 
> > > other foot.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Robert 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 7:48 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ÃÂ  
> > > 
> > > Biden was saying that Romney would give more power to the Banksters and 
> > > Wall Streeters so that we would all be slaves to their greedy and devious 
> > > ways...
> > > This is what Biden was sayin'...my dear friend.
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > He also indicated Romney wouyld put *blacks* back in chains.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: John 
> > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:22 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ÃâÃÂ  
> > > > 
> > > > On the camgaign trail, Biden states this is Romney's intent if elected 
> > > > president.
> > > > 
> > > > http://news.yahoo.com/biden-romney-wants-war-syria-iran-172932280--election.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: "I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!"

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

This will be remembered for what not to do at a national political convention...
But what I think happened to Mr.Eastwood, was that he was just sort of out of 
touch with what is happening in reality...
He must have felt that since I've been a Republican all my life, and since they 
ask me to speak then I must do something...
But when it came time to do something, with the collective consciousness as it 
is now, what he was saying just seemed so unreal...
It was as if he was out of time, out of synch with what is actually happening 
in the moment...
It's the difference between being enlightened and just knowing the dogma of 
what enlightenment is...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> 
> > The term "Eastwooding" has now entered the vocabulary
> > used to describe crazy people. That term will outlast
> > his screen legacy.
> 
> Not by a long shot. In 10 years, maybe less, nobody but
> political mavens will remember what it referred to. It
> will never become part of the language the way "fisking"
> and "borking" and even "swiftboating" have. It was way
> too trivial an event.
> 
> But everyone will remember who made his films for at
> least the next century, probably longer.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

Ok, you vote for Romney...
And I'll vote for Obama...

Whom do you feel that The Maharishi would vote for...I'm just curious...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> You seem to exhibit a lot of fear, just through the posts on this thread. You 
> hate millionaires, even though they pay hundreds, thousands more tax dollars 
> than you'll ever earn in your life time, yet also provide jobs for everybody 
> else and produce goods and services for all of us to use and you call them 
> slave masters? They aren't the slave masters, it's the people in Washington 
> DC who take the moneyÂ you earnedÂ and give it to somebody who didn't work 
> for it, usually to get their vote. A slave produces, the massa takes it away. 
> When the slave realizes he can't enjoy the fruits of his labor, he slows down 
> and produces less and lessÂ and with total justification.Talk about nickel 
> and dime-ing everyone to death, try listening to your Beatles song *Tax 
> Man*(Rubber Soul), but then we all *know* George Harrison was a greedy 
> soul:). We could probably do with a lot fewer prisons if the people that are 
> in there would have taken a little more interest in their
>  *free public education* and learned a skill instead of depending on the 
> sweat of somebody else's brow to provide for them, one way or another. A 
> culture of dependency breeds crime. It destroys self reliance and creativity, 
> something Maharishi tried to instill in us.
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: Robert 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 11:54 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
>   
> 
> Â   
>  
> Who has more fear? People who are millionaires and need to pay less taxes, 
> and who are supporting Romney..
> or people who just want to elect someone who has a heart, and will do the 
> best he can to overcome these slave masters that ship jobs overseas and 
> nickel and dime everyone to death...who rattle their sabers so they can make 
> a killing on killiing and who love to spend money on prisons rather than on 
> education...
> Come on you're really not that stupid; it's just a bad habit I think...of 
> supporting these slave masters...
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > It's called *race-baiting*. Had Biden been speaking in front of Jews he 
> > probably would have said "they'll send you back to the gas chambers", to 
> > Native Americans, "they'll put you back on the rez" or to Japanese 
> > -Americans, "They'll send you back to the internment camps". Regardless of 
> > where he was going, the intent was to play on the emotions ofÃÂ  African- 
> > Americans in order to evoke outrage and fear. The last thing Biden wants is 
> > for them to *think* about 14-15% unemployment among Black Americans. Seems 
> > to me that Democrats highly criticized Bush for waging a campaign of fear 
> > in 2004 and the same for McCain. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Robert 
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 7:48 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > 
> > 
> > ÃÂ  
> > 
> > Biden was saying that Romney would give more power to the Banksters and 
> > Wall Streeters so that we would all be slaves to their greedy and devious 
> > ways...
> > This is what Biden was sayin'...my dear friend.
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > He also indicated Romney wouyld put *blacks* back in chains.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: John 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:22 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ÃâÃÂ  
> > > 
> > > On the camgaign trail, Biden states this is Romney's intent if elected 
> > > president.
> > > 
> > > http://news.yahoo.com/biden-romney-wants-war-syria-iran-172932280--election.html
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Dems Leader Compares GOPs To Nazi Joseph Goebbels

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

 http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/09/03/kcbs-exclusive-california-dems-leader-compares-gops-to-nazi-joseph-goebbels/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama New Photos

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

You make some good points here, Dog, but still I think we needed Obama here for 
many deeper reasons...
Let's hope in his 2nd term he can be more aggressive with the assholes...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > On 09/02/2012 07:44 PM, raunchydog wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >> Doc sez: He's in, for the second term. Not as into it as the first time, 
> > >> but, best, considering...
> > >>
> > > I'd sure like to see the same enthusiasm for Obama as I saw during 2008 
> > > primary when all the Obots got drunk on Kool Aid. They thought Hillary 
> > > supporters were racists because they couldn't tell the difference between 
> > > a policy wonk and an empty suit. It sure is hard to keep someone on a 
> > > pedestal once you realize they're not the 2nd coming of Christ, isn't it?
> > 
> > I think people didn't want Hillary because they didn't want the whole 
> > Clinton era all over again.  After all, Bill Clinton was our greatest 
> > Republican president.  And most had it with the Bush era and 
> > Republicans.  They wanted a new car salesman.  And of course most of 
> > those folks can't remember back 4 years so they stupidly think that 
> > Republicans can solve the economic problems but would most likely make 
> > things worse.  The problems with Obama are summed up pretty well in this 
> > interview by John Cusack with law professor Jonathan Turley:
> > 
> > http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/11264-john-cusack-and-jonathan-turley-on-obamas-constitution
> >
> 
> I posted this on Facebook last week. Good summary of what's wrong with Obama. 
> He's Bush-lite but I certainly prefer him to Romney, who is damn scary.
> 
> Ronald Reagan promised fiscal responsibility, and then ran up the debt. 
> George H.W. Bush made the deficit worse. Bill Clinton put the government into 
> the black. When Dick Cheney said, "Reagan proved deficits don't matter," 
> George W. Bush promptly put us back into the red. 
> 
> I wouldn't have minded a Clinton era all over again. People had jobs and we 
> were in the black. What has Obama given us? He's given us an inadequate 
> stimulus plan and tax cuts when he could have let Bush's tax cuts for the 
> rich expire. Tax cuts don't stimulate the economy. 
> 
> The Clintons (nothing wrong with TWO intelligent people in the White House) 
> would have been a lot more savvy in dealing with the Republicans than Obama. 
> We would probably be in the black with a lot more jobs right now had Hillary 
> won the election.  
> 
> Hillary wanted a public option in the health care bill. Obama only pretended 
> he wanted a public option. Hillary wanted to help home owners with underwater 
> mortgages, folks who Obama hasn't helped much at all. The insurance companies 
> and Wall Street wouldn't have been all that happy with a public option or 
> helping home owners out of debt. It's probably why Obama was able to get more 
> campaign money from them than Hillary. They owned him, now they're ditching 
> him.  One of the reasons why Obama might lose this election is that Wall 
> Street's new sweetheart in town is Mitt Romney. God help us.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

Nice work John...I'm glad you're seeing the 'Light'...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Here's a good example of a man who was and still may be in bondage to the 
> system.  
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrBdN7pftD4
> 
> Even though he got paid more money than his opponent, Mike Tyson had lost the 
> will to fight in this match, presumably due to his mounting debts.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > Actually there are lot's of people in 'Chains' in our elaborate prisons 
> > systems, that cost much more then food stamps to keep them in the system...
> > But, hey it makes money for the Romney folks, so do they care?
> > No, they don't care...
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > >
> > > These people are afraid of black people, indians, jews, inflation, peace, 
> > > hippies, weed, harmony, equality, enlightenment, muslims, and anyone who 
> > > is not rich or has a 'position' or is not just like their uptight asses...
> > > Few of them probably even listen to the Beatles.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Who has more fear? People who are millionaires and need to pay less 
> > > > taxes, and who are supporting Romney..
> > > > or people who just want to elect someone who has a heart, and will do 
> > > > the best he can to overcome these slave masters that ship jobs overseas 
> > > > and nickel and dime everyone to death...who rattle their sabers so they 
> > > > can make a killing on killiing and who love to spend money on prisons 
> > > > rather than on education...
> > > > Come on you're really not that stupid; it's just a bad habit I 
> > > > think...of supporting these slave masters...
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It's called *race-baiting*. Had Biden been speaking in front of Jews 
> > > > > he probably would have said "they'll send you back to the gas 
> > > > > chambers", to Native Americans, "they'll put you back on the rez" or 
> > > > > to Japanese -Americans, "They'll send you back to the internment 
> > > > > camps". Regardless of where he was going, the intent was to play on 
> > > > > the emotions ofÂ  African- Americans in order to evoke outrage and 
> > > > > fear. The last thing Biden wants is for them to *think* about 14-15% 
> > > > > unemployment among Black Americans. Seems to me that Democrats highly 
> > > > > criticized Bush for waging a campaign of fear in 2004 and the same 
> > > > > for McCain. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: Robert 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 7:48 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > > > >   
> > > > > 
> > > > > Â   
> > > > >  
> > > > > Biden was saying that Romney would give more power to the Banksters 
> > > > > and Wall Streeters so that we would all be slaves to their greedy and 
> > > > > devious ways...
> > > > > This is what Biden was sayin'...my dear friend.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He also indicated Romney wouyld put *blacks* back in chains.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  From: John 
> > > > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:22 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ÃÂ  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On the camgaign trail, Biden states this is Romney's intent if 
> > > > > > elected president.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/biden-romney-wants-war-syria-iran-172932280--election.html
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

Maybe it was just all about making a little more money, gaining a little more 
fame, a little more power...
Just typcial ego stuff...is all...
Did anyone get enlightened? 
Sure, they did...?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"  
wrote:
>
> Thanks for verifying the triplets MMY story Nabbie, I was just guessing.  
> What course was that on?
> 
> I am curious about this arbitrary fixation on his deadness.  I thought you 
> guys believed that he is still with us somewhere between Marley's ghost and 
> the thought in meditation that inspires the marketing crew to try some new 
> scheme to get TM into the lives beyond the 687 people who still practice it 
> exclusively now.
> 
> So you think a guy like Maharishi actually dies?  And how do you imagine my 
> "bashing" affects him?  Is it like a disturbance in sleep like when someone 
> in the bed farts and we almost wake up and then turn over?   Or does it 
> really get to him, do my words cause him to gnash his teeth and pound his 
> fist into his hands in a Sienfeldesque "CURTIS!"  Does he shake his fist at 
> the sky like Jon Stewart and curse me from beyond the grave?  Does he try to 
> extract retribution on me in this world to get me back in some way like 
> moving a chair when I sleep so I stub my toe during a mid-sleep groggy 
> bathroom run?  Exactly how pissed do my words make this spirit of Maharishi 
> you imagine?  Should I invest in a voodoo doll of him to avoid his evil eye?
> 
> Now of course if your point was that when I posted the same perspective when 
> he was alive he had a chance to challenge what I said directly, I would 
> agree.  I think we are both glad that he took so many opportunities to give 
> his side here while he was living, and I do miss those exchanges. 
> 
> And how far does this ban about speaking ill of the dead extend Nabbie.  Do 
> we include Napoleon, Sun Myng Moon, John Lennon?   What is the key aspect of 
> the unfairness you seem to resent about it all?  
> 
> What if we have a public figure who is so boring that he might as well be 
> dead like King Tony?  Do I have to include him in the don't speak about the 
> dead ban.  Should we just ban all histories of famous dead people if the 
> perspective isn't only positive?
> 
> Or was this whole thing just a protective instinct, misguided though I 
> believe it to be, to protect the magical illusions he tried to sell us all 
> about himself during his life? 
> 
> Oh shit I have a fleck of dust in my eye...hey wait a minute...wasn't he a 
> pile of dust the last time we saw him...
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > Who would wish 
> > that on anybody?
> > 
> > 
> > Ravi was right ofcourse, it didn't take long before the hillbilly-singer 
> > was back where he left us last time and where he's feeling most 
> > comfortable: Maharishi-bashing.
> > If all else fails in life it's great to have someone to bash, particularily 
> > someone who's dead, don't you think ?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

Actually there are lot's of people in 'Chains' in our elaborate prisons 
systems, that cost much more then food stamps to keep them in the system...
But, hey it makes money for the Romney folks, so do they care?
No, they don't care...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> These people are afraid of black people, indians, jews, inflation, peace, 
> hippies, weed, harmony, equality, enlightenment, muslims, and anyone who is 
> not rich or has a 'position' or is not just like their uptight asses...
> Few of them probably even listen to the Beatles.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > Who has more fear? People who are millionaires and need to pay less taxes, 
> > and who are supporting Romney..
> > or people who just want to elect someone who has a heart, and will do the 
> > best he can to overcome these slave masters that ship jobs overseas and 
> > nickel and dime everyone to death...who rattle their sabers so they can 
> > make a killing on killiing and who love to spend money on prisons rather 
> > than on education...
> > Come on you're really not that stupid; it's just a bad habit I think...of 
> > supporting these slave masters...
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> > >
> > > It's called *race-baiting*. Had Biden been speaking in front of Jews he 
> > > probably would have said "they'll send you back to the gas chambers", to 
> > > Native Americans, "they'll put you back on the rez" or to Japanese 
> > > -Americans, "They'll send you back to the internment camps". Regardless 
> > > of where he was going, the intent was to play on the emotions ofÂ  
> > > African- Americans in order to evoke outrage and fear. The last thing 
> > > Biden wants is for them to *think* about 14-15% unemployment among Black 
> > > Americans. Seems to me that Democrats highly criticized Bush for waging a 
> > > campaign of fear in 2004 and the same for McCain. Now the shoe is on the 
> > > other foot.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Robert 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 7:48 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > >   
> > > 
> > > Â   
> > >  
> > > Biden was saying that Romney would give more power to the Banksters and 
> > > Wall Streeters so that we would all be slaves to their greedy and devious 
> > > ways...
> > > This is what Biden was sayin'...my dear friend.
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > He also indicated Romney wouyld put *blacks* back in chains.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: John 
> > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:22 AM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > ÃÂ  
> > > > 
> > > > On the camgaign trail, Biden states this is Romney's intent if elected 
> > > > president.
> > > > 
> > > > http://news.yahoo.com/biden-romney-wants-war-syria-iran-172932280--election.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

These people are afraid of black people, indians, jews, inflation, peace, 
hippies, weed, harmony, equality, enlightenment, muslims, and anyone who is not 
rich or has a 'position' or is not just like their uptight asses...
Few of them probably even listen to the Beatles.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> Who has more fear? People who are millionaires and need to pay less taxes, 
> and who are supporting Romney..
> or people who just want to elect someone who has a heart, and will do the 
> best he can to overcome these slave masters that ship jobs overseas and 
> nickel and dime everyone to death...who rattle their sabers so they can make 
> a killing on killiing and who love to spend money on prisons rather than on 
> education...
> Come on you're really not that stupid; it's just a bad habit I think...of 
> supporting these slave masters...
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > It's called *race-baiting*. Had Biden been speaking in front of Jews he 
> > probably would have said "they'll send you back to the gas chambers", to 
> > Native Americans, "they'll put you back on the rez" or to Japanese 
> > -Americans, "They'll send you back to the internment camps". Regardless of 
> > where he was going, the intent was to play on the emotions ofÂ  African- 
> > Americans in order to evoke outrage and fear. The last thing Biden wants is 
> > for them to *think* about 14-15% unemployment among Black Americans. Seems 
> > to me that Democrats highly criticized Bush for waging a campaign of fear 
> > in 2004 and the same for McCain. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Robert 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 7:48 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> >   
> > 
> > Â   
> >  
> > Biden was saying that Romney would give more power to the Banksters and 
> > Wall Streeters so that we would all be slaves to their greedy and devious 
> > ways...
> > This is what Biden was sayin'...my dear friend.
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > He also indicated Romney wouyld put *blacks* back in chains.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: John 
> > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:22 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ÃÂ  
> > > 
> > > On the camgaign trail, Biden states this is Romney's intent if elected 
> > > president.
> > > 
> > > http://news.yahoo.com/biden-romney-wants-war-syria-iran-172932280--election.html
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

Who has more fear? People who are millionaires and need to pay less taxes, and 
who are supporting Romney..
or people who just want to elect someone who has a heart, and will do the best 
he can to overcome these slave masters that ship jobs overseas and nickel and 
dime everyone to death...who rattle their sabers so they can make a killing on 
killiing and who love to spend money on prisons rather than on education...
Come on you're really not that stupid; it's just a bad habit I think...of 
supporting these slave masters...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> It's called *race-baiting*. Had Biden been speaking in front of Jews he 
> probably would have said "they'll send you back to the gas chambers", to 
> Native Americans, "they'll put you back on the rez" or to Japanese 
> -Americans, "They'll send you back to the internment camps". Regardless of 
> where he was going, the intent was to play on the emotions ofÂ  African- 
> Americans in order to evoke outrage and fear. The last thing Biden wants is 
> for them to *think* about 14-15% unemployment among Black Americans. Seems to 
> me that Democrats highly criticized Bush for waging a campaign of fear in 
> 2004 and the same for McCain. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: Robert 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 7:48 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
>   
> 
> Â   
>  
> Biden was saying that Romney would give more power to the Banksters and Wall 
> Streeters so that we would all be slaves to their greedy and devious ways...
> This is what Biden was sayin'...my dear friend.
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > He also indicated Romney wouyld put *blacks* back in chains.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: John 
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:22 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ÃÂ  
> > 
> > On the camgaign trail, Biden states this is Romney's intent if elected 
> > president.
> > 
> > http://news.yahoo.com/biden-romney-wants-war-syria-iran-172932280--election.html
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush and Blair Should Go on Trial at the Hague

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

Bush/Cheney and Co. should be put on trial not only for the war in Iraq, but 
also for bankrupting this country...
But I don't think that will happen anytime soon, so I wouldn't hold my breath...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > It's not going to be that easy.  Bush is guarded by the Secret Service 
> > guys.  They'll be tough to beat... no doubt about it.
> 
> Worth a try though, let us know how you get on :-)
> 
> It's all made harder that the US doesn't recognise the international
> criminal court, along with Israel, Iran, China, Qatar, Yemen. You know, nice 
> countries like that with good human rights records.
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> > >
> > > So, let's all go down to Dallas and just make a citizens arrest...
> > > I'm sure that would work out real well...
> > > Let's face it, these people have been doing this stuff for years, with 
> > > impunity...
> > > What is really sad, is that we elected this asshole...not once but 
> > > twice...
> > > Well, not really elected since he stole the election, but you get what I 
> > > mean...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is what Desmond Tutu proclaims for their roles in the war in 
> > > > > > Iraq.  Would the prosecutors have the guts to make a case?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/tutu-bush-blair-face-trial-hague-094855285.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This issue has been raised before. Apparently it scared that Bush 
> > > > > fellow so much he did not leave the US in a long time after leaving 
> > > > > the WH in fear of being arrested. 
> > > > > Let's hope they get what they deserve, even here on earth.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > The prosecutors most likely has a case against Bush since he 
> > > > unilaterally invaded Iraq against the advice of the CIA.  Then, after 
> > > > the invasion, Bush grants the chief of the CIA a Congressional Medal 
> > > > for his role in the war.  I thought at the time:  what kind of bullshit 
> > > > is this?
> > > > 
> > > > http://news.yahoo.com/unification-church-founder-rev-moon-dies-92-185236876.html
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Eastwooding: "I'm not going to shut up; it's my turn!"

2012-09-03 Thread Robert

Like I said, Eastwood helped President Obama more than he can possibly imagine, 
even with his crazy and vivid imagination.
 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> As sad as it may be to keep twisting the knife that one
> of the TMO's poster boys for the awesome power of TM 
> to enhance creative intelligence plunged into himself
> may be, I must, because it provides such a perfect
> explanation of the dynamics of FFL. 
> 
> The term "Eastwooding" has now entered the vocabulary
> used to describe crazy people. That term will outlast
> his screen legacy. Which is good in a way, because now
> we at Fairfield Life have that term to describe the
> actions of those who -- affronted dearly by something
> someone has done, or has said about them, or didn't
> even say but the Eastwooder imagined them saying it --
> feel the need to preach or yell at them, long after
> the offending person has stopped listening.
> 
> http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/01/in-a-friday-night-special-jon-stewart-celebrates-clint-eastwoods-fistful-of-awesome/
> 
> "You will not silence me, invisible Barack Obama!"
> 
> Substitute "Vaj" for "Barack Obama" in the sentence 
> above. Or replace that name with "Curtis." Or with
> "Sal," or even -- 12 years after he last appeared --
> "Andrew Skolnick." Or finish the sentence with 
> "invisible Barry," and then continue yelling at
> the empty chair for...wait for it...17 years.
> 
> To quote Jon Stewart in this awesome bit, "But I 
> could never wrap my head around why the world and
> the President that Republicans describe bears so
> little resemblance to the world and the President
> that I experience. Now I know why. There is a 
> President Obama that only Republicans can see."
> 
> Continuing the "replacement game," replace the
> words "the world and the President" with any of
> the names I suggested above. Replace the word
> "Republicans" with "crazy people." And instead
> of spending 12 minutes demonstrating the crazy
> by trying to convince others that these people
> the crazy person hates are the root cause of 
> everything wrong with the world, spend 17 
> years doing it.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama New Photos

2012-09-02 Thread Robert

I don't think that Ron Paul has much of a personality...do you?
I'm not sure why you dislike Obama so much...perhaps you should see why he 
pushes your buttons, to make something positive out of it...
I know you liked Hillary a lot and so do I...
She got a good job now, so I don't see what the problem is?

A vote for Romney is going to send more jobs out of the country.
It would be a big boost for Mormonism.
The rich will continue to get richer.
Most other countries will be surprised and sickened by such a choice..
There will be more sabor rattling.
More money for an already big fat military.
I can't really think of one good thing that Mr. Romney and Mr. Ryan stand 
for

It won't take a lot of noise to re-elect President Obama..
Really all it will take is for people to quietly go to the polls and cast their 
vote...
That is if they can get past the Republican obstacles placed in their way...


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > You say you would like to see the same enthusiasm for Obama?
> > I don't really think you would.
> > After all, even in the time of the 1st coming, it was hard to show the same 
> > kind of enthusiasm for Jesus after he had been tortured and nailed to the 
> > cross
> > In those days...showing enthusiasm for Jesus after the crucifixion would 
> > give you the right do the death dance for the enjoyment of the demonic and  
> > drunken Romans...
> > 
> 
> Vote for the SOB is all I'm saying. All those Obots who were so in love with 
> him should  just get registered and vote for him. Unless, of course they've 
> been smitten by the Libertarian, Ron Paul, then it's proof positive, they are 
> once again swayed by the cult of personality and as ignorant as ever.   
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Doc sez: He's in, for the second term. Not as into it as the first 
> > > > time, but, best, considering...
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I'd sure like to see the same enthusiasm for Obama as I saw during 2008 
> > > primary when all the Obots got drunk on Kool Aid. They thought Hillary 
> > > supporters were racists because they couldn't tell the difference between 
> > > a policy wonk and an empty suit. It sure is hard to keep someone on a 
> > > pedestal once you realize they're not the 2nd coming of Christ, isn't it?
> > >  
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The long shots  were a bit shaky and grainy, but passable. The one 
> > > > > thing I forgot to do was lightened up some of the photos before 
> > > > > making the video. Youtube offered to "fix" the shaky and dark 
> > > > > problems.  I declined. Their fix sometimes distorts the text. 
> > > > > Overall, I'm satisfied with the Sony DSC-HX20V performance. I don't 
> > > > > think I'll need an upgrade for quite awhile. The news reports said 
> > > > > the crowd was about 10 thousand, looked like 20 to me.
> > > 
> > > > > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LHq7VWUR3nk/UEP7KAAuQ-I/Bhs/8Vn7Lw_5alQ/s912/DSC01350.JPG
> > > 
> > > > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--tk8kzpahdY/UEP9sJhhRQI/BiU/CoRCnM5no2k/s512/547207_4680281010901_713376709_n.jpg
> > > 
> > > > > I didn't take this photo.  My vantage point wasn't as good as this. 
> > > > > It's a great shot, excellent resolution. I got it off Facebook from a 
> > > > > friend who posted it. Whoever took the photo must have been a pro on 
> > > > > top of the press/photo platform.
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 09/02/2012 02:01 PM, raunchydog wrote:
> > > > > > > President Obama mentioned the Florida Convention and people 
> > > > > > > started to boo. He shot back, "Don't boo...Vote!"  Also, loved 
> > > > > > > his big
> > > smart-ass grin after he delivered this line: "We've seen this before, you 
> > > might as well have watched in on a black and white TV."
> > > > > > > ht

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our Little Secret

2012-09-02 Thread Robert



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> 
> > I was never into whaling lore, but for about a year I lived
> > out on Marblehead Neck, near Boston. It was very near Salem,
> > MA, home of the Salem witch trials, and a museum to them.
> > In it you could read -- on the original parchments, written
> > in the original hands of the people who wrote them -- the
> > court records of the men who pressed to death quite a few
> > women for the crime of...uh...not being the kind of women
> > they were expected to be. Nothing more.
> 
> FWIW, those convicted in the Salem witch trials were
> hanged, not pressed to death, except for one man who
> refused to enter a plea at trial. This was not an
> execution method but a torture technique designed to
> extort a guilty plea. Giles Corey (the Salem man)
> seems to have been the only person in the U.S. who is
> known to have been subjected to this method. He died
> after refusing to plead guilty for three days.
>
Pretty much psychopathic behavior...must have got off on this type of thing...
After a proper day of torturing and murder,
went home had a few drinks, screwed their obedient wife and fell into a drunken 
stupor...of sleep...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bush and Blair Should Go on Trial at the Hague

2012-09-02 Thread Robert

So, let's all go down to Dallas and just make a citizens arrest...
I'm sure that would work out real well...
Let's face it, these people have been doing this stuff for years, with 
impunity...
What is really sad, is that we elected this asshole...not once but twice...
Well, not really elected since he stole the election, but you get what I mean...


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > This is what Desmond Tutu proclaims for their roles in the war in Iraq.  
> > > Would the prosecutors have the guts to make a case?
> > > 
> > > http://news.yahoo.com/tutu-bush-blair-face-trial-hague-094855285.html
> > 
> > 
> > This issue has been raised before. Apparently it scared that Bush fellow so 
> > much he did not leave the US in a long time after leaving the WH in fear of 
> > being arrested. 
> > Let's hope they get what they deserve, even here on earth.
> >
> 
> The prosecutors most likely has a case against Bush since he unilaterally 
> invaded Iraq against the advice of the CIA.  Then, after the invasion, Bush 
> grants the chief of the CIA a Congressional Medal for his role in the war.  I 
> thought at the time:  what kind of bullshit is this?
> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/unification-church-founder-rev-moon-dies-92-185236876.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama New Photos

2012-09-02 Thread Robert

You say you would like to see the same enthusiasm for Obama?
I don't really think you would.
After all, even in the time of the 1st coming, it was hard to show the same 
kind of enthusiasm for Jesus after he had been tortured and nailed to the 
cross
In those days...showing enthusiasm for Jesus after the crucifixion would give 
you the right do the death dance for the enjoyment of the demonic and  drunken 
Romans...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Doc sez: He's in, for the second term. Not as into it as the first time, 
> > but, best, considering...
> > 
> 
> I'd sure like to see the same enthusiasm for Obama as I saw during 2008 
> primary when all the Obots got drunk on Kool Aid. They thought Hillary 
> supporters were racists because they couldn't tell the difference between a 
> policy wonk and an empty suit. It sure is hard to keep someone on a pedestal 
> once you realize they're not the 2nd coming of Christ, isn't it?
>  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > >
> > > The long shots  were a bit shaky and grainy, but passable. The one thing 
> > > I forgot to do was lightened up some of the photos before making the 
> > > video. Youtube offered to "fix" the shaky and dark problems.  I declined. 
> > > Their fix sometimes distorts the text. Overall, I'm satisfied with the 
> > > Sony DSC-HX20V performance. I don't think I'll need an upgrade for quite 
> > > awhile. The news reports said the crowd was about 10 thousand, looked 
> > > like 20 to me.
> 
> > > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LHq7VWUR3nk/UEP7KAAuQ-I/Bhs/8Vn7Lw_5alQ/s912/DSC01350.JPG
> 
> > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--tk8kzpahdY/UEP9sJhhRQI/BiU/CoRCnM5no2k/s512/547207_4680281010901_713376709_n.jpg
> 
> > > I didn't take this photo.  My vantage point wasn't as good as this. It's 
> > > a great shot, excellent resolution. I got it off Facebook from a friend 
> > > who posted it. Whoever took the photo must have been a pro on top of the 
> > > press/photo platform.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 09/02/2012 02:01 PM, raunchydog wrote:
> > > > > President Obama mentioned the Florida Convention and people started 
> > > > > to boo. He shot back, "Don't boo...Vote!"  Also, loved his big
> smart-ass grin after he delivered this line: "We've seen this before, you 
> might as well have watched in on a black and white TV."
> > > > > http://youtu.be/gCaqofaX-ck
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b1H26pce2fE/UEPClN5-U4I/BhM/MllYOkFgjDk/s912/DSC01377.JPG
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H0GXuyP1Nwc/UEPCH97oZXI/BhM/iL9qghW4FYA/s912/DSC01363.JPG
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DfVTuglbpuM/UEPCL5qwcfI/BhM/ZO83F-ojNWo/s912/DSC01365.JPG
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ispfB1juChs/UEPCWOAZbeI/BhM/X9f70wepuao/s912/DSC01372.JPG
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-4PpSk7FlYDA/UEPCft7cxsI/BhM/Gxd16Ak7zq8/s912/DSC01376.JPG
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Fmr7lII2H28/UEPCqMkvVeI/BhM/C45H8-PASQg/s912/DSC01383.JPG]
> > > > >
> > > > > https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GtGXRA2GwDc/UEPDnOHli4I/Bg4/j5llFryzz-U/s1152/DSC01338.JPG]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" raunchydog@
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> President Barack Obama gave a campaign speech at Living History
> > > Farms,
> > > > > Urbandale, Iowa. September 1, 2012. Iowa is first in nation for
> > > early
> > > > > voting. Register to vote. Early voting starts September 27.
> > > > >> http://youtu.be/gCaqofaX-ck
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Nice work on the video.  That camera does okay for long shots.  Yup,
> > > the
> > > > Republicans are so backward their whole convention should have been in
> > > B&W.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran

2012-09-02 Thread Robert

Biden was saying that Romney would give more power to the Banksters and Wall 
Streeters so that we would all be slaves to their greedy and devious ways...
This is what Biden was sayin'...my dear friend.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> He also indicated Romney wouyld put *blacks* back in chains.
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: John 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 11:22 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Romney Will Wage War with Syria and Iran
>   
> 
>  
> Â   
>  
> On the camgaign trail, Biden states this is Romney's intent if elected 
> president.
> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/biden-romney-wants-war-syria-iran-172932280--election.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen

2012-09-02 Thread Robert

I feel that one of the biggest mood-making thing(s) that ever happened,  this 
side of the Mississippi...
Thinking that you are levitating, when you are actually just humping/hopping 
around...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> Well, not exactly. An enlightened person, by definition, cannot fail to be 
> "authentic."
> 
> 
> Mood-making is more along the lines of being nice not because you think it 
> good to be nice, or because your religion says to try to be nice, but because 
> you think that you are going to be more enlightened by behaving like 
> enlightened people do.
> 
> 1) ain't going to happen that way anyway (good works alone, and all that);
> 2) it is impossible to be sure how an enlightened person would behave in a 
> given situation anyway, so it's a futile thing to attempt;
> 3) it can lead to truly self-destructive (in the usual sense of the word) 
> behavior by setting up a veneer of tolerance on your part for things that 
> shouldn't be tolerated if only for the sake of your health and the health of 
> others.
> 
> 
> L
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > H. Alright then, in that context, "mood making" speaks to lack of 
> > authenticity in how we conduct ourselves. Â That applies to us all I guess 
> > - and I note that Ravi has refuted his "Yogi" status. Â He is a "bhogi" now 
> > :) I also don't understand this focus on thinking only "happy, happy 
> > thoughts." Â Why deny ourselves the full range of thoughts and emotions - 
> > often, in my life, the painful ones have forced movement. Â 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: sparaig 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 8:19 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to Happen
> >  
> > 
> > Â  
> > "Mood-making" in TM-speak refers to trying to pretend to yourself (and/or 
> > others) that you are enlightened by attempting to behave in the way you 
> > think someone who is enlightened behaves.
> > 
> > There's nothing wrong with "mood-making" per se, only with the TM-related 
> > version, which is counter-enlightenment, since enlightenment includes being 
> > fully spontaneous at all times, simply by its very nature.
> > 
> > L
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > >
> > > Share: Is there something wrong with "mood making?" ÃÂ For example, 
> > > music, art, meditation, incense, candles, poetry, movies, only thinking 
> > > "happy, happy" thoughts, all function to "mood make." ÃÂ 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Share Long 
> > > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> > > Sent: Sunday, September 2, 2012 4:28 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to 
> > > Happen
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ÃÂ  
> > > dearest Nephewji, 
> > > 
> > > I am indeed SO proud of your restraint language wise as well as all your 
> > > efforts to make the world safe for not bots, if we may call them 
> > > that.ÃÂ  Have I followed the thread closely enough, do you think?ÃÂ  Is 
> > > Auntie making sense here?ÃÂ  Your dear old Auntie can get so 
> > > discombobulated in the FFL maze!ÃÂ  BTW, very nice your gratitude to 
> > > Judy et al.
> > > 
> > > Now Auntie will become a little Auntie Mame ish to say: screw the 
> > > stories.ÃÂ  If you know what I mean.ÃÂ  Stories only appear easy.ÃÂ  
> > > And that, only in the short run.ÃÂ  Ah, exhausted now from expounding so 
> > > much wisdom.ÃÂ ÃÂ 
> > > 
> > > Yes yes Rosathea is your mantra now.ÃÂ  Auntie can relax.
> > > Big Hug
> > > 
> > > PSÃÂ  Please please do to take good care of Ravi self.ÃÂ  Get good 
> > > rest.ÃÂ  Healthy delicious food.ÃÂ  Exercise in sunshine.ÃÂ  No 
> > > synthetic clothes.ÃÂ  Even if beloved plaid.ÃÂ  No texting while 
> > > driving, etc.ÃÂ  Think happy happy thoughts.ÃÂ  But otoh NO MOOD 
> > > MAKING!ÃÂ  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thank you for making Auntie smile 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: Ravi Chivukula 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 2:30 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Lindsay Lohan-- An Accident Waiting to 
> > > Happen
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ÃÂ  
> > > Oh and one more thing Auntie.
> > > 
> > > With respect to my statement.." past couple of days after 
> > > goading, insulting and slaying Amma zombies and bots on the 
> > > battlefield"
> > > 
> > > You will proud dear Auntie, the kind of language your Nephew used to 
> > > insult them was all rated G for modern, progressive, liberal audiences, 
> > > no Ravi Yogi's crude, coarse, vulgar, insulting, say hello to Ravi 
> > > Chivukula, the harshest words I used were "fool" and "baby" and the one 
> > > among many of the phrases I used to insult them was this gem "your 
> > > dhoti-wearing, doll-clutching drollery".
> > > 
> > > Thanks to the old man,

[FairfieldLife] Clint Eastwood= A Closet Obama Supporter...

2012-09-02 Thread Robert

Clint Eastwood did more to help the Obama Campaign then any other human 
Republican...this side of the Mississippi.
When alone, all by himself, in the privacy of the voting booth, in Northern 
California, he will pull the lever for President Obama...
Ya think?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Reagan aide on the GOP

2012-09-01 Thread Robert



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 09/01/2012 10:43 AM, Robert wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >> The Republicans are the party of "freedom and democracy." The
> >> Republicans are the party most controlled by the neoconservatives, who
> >> are strongly allied with Israel's far right-wing government and are most
> >> hostile to the US Constitution. The Republicans are the party that gave
> >> us the PATRIOT Act, the first massive assault on the US Constitution.
> >> The Republicans are the party that gave us 9/11. The Republicans are the
> >> party that gave us the $3 trillion war against Iraq based on the
> >> Republican party's lies about "weapons of mass destruction." The
> >> Republicans are the party that gave us the $3 trillion war in
> >> Afghanistan based on lies about Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. The
> >> Republicans are the party that gave us the supremacy of the President
> >> over both the US Constitution and US statutory law; the executive branch
> >> is bound by neither according to the Republican Federalist Society
> >> members of the US Department of Justice (sic).
> >>
> >> Obama is a despicable patsy, a front man for powerful private interests,
> >> and Democrats should be totally ashamed to have elevated such a cowardly
> >> lowlife. But as awful as Obama is, a vote for Republicans is a vote for
> >> Hitler or Stalin. Indeed, the election of Romney and Ryan would be worse
> >> than either.
> >>
> >> By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, a former economic advisor to Ronald Reagan.
> >> Read the full article here:
> >> http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/08/30/putin-is-demonized-while-democracy-fails-in-amerika-paul-craig-roberts/
> >>
> > I do agree with what you say of the Republicans, but think you are being a 
> > bit harsh in your judgement of Obama...
> > I do think he was a bit naive when he thought he had a chance to work with 
> > these psychopaths during his first term...
> > What I really want to say, is that the last president who really stood up 
> > to the forces that you mention, was John Kennedy...and that seemed to have 
> > set a precedent for how far this people will tolerate being pushed back...
> 
> Robert, that statement was from Dr. Craig Roberts, not me.  But I agree 
> with him on Obama.  He had every chance to do what he promised us but 
> didn't.   My point in quoting Dr. Roberts is here you have someone 
> active in the Reagan administration distancing himself from the GOP.   
> And I don't think he's going to be the only one.  That's why Obama will 
> probably be re-elected.  As you know I also listen to people like Alex 
> Jones and those patriot group people don't like Romney and Ryan at all.  
> Even Jones has said after all the Obama bashing that he'll probably vote 
> for Obama and not Romney because like Roberts he thinks Romney is far 
> worse.  And they won't be voting for the Libertarian candidate either in 
> fear that might help Romney get the office.
> 
> That is if we actually have a presidential election in November. There 
> have been some charges leveled at a Republican group that includes Ryan 
> who plotted in 2009 to destroy the economy so that Obama wouldn't get a 
> second term.  In doing so they destroyed the lives of many Americans.  
> The Justice Department should and maybe already has investigate this.  
> These are treasonous and seditious charges and need to be dealt with 
> seriously.  I would suspect that the indictments would be announced some 
> time after the DNC convention.  Such would mean that the presidential 
> election may have to be postponed maybe to January to give the chance 
> for the GOP to regroup and find  another candidate.
> 
> Perhaps that is why DHS ordered all that ammunition because they would 
> expect rioting.  Thing is if the gun toting patriot don't like Romney 
> either that might not happen.  Far fetched?  Let's wait and see.
> 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/robert-draper-anti-obama-campaign_n_1452899.html
>
I thought it was common knowledge that the opposition did everything they could 
to undermine the economy, so that Obama wouldn't get a second term...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Repubs distance themselves from Clint; will TMO do the same?

2012-09-01 Thread Robert

The two things the federal government spends the most on is the military and 
health care...
I have heard that the United States spends more money on the military, then the 
next top 17 countries...COMBINED...
including Britain, France, Russia, China, Israel and on and on...

Something is definely wrong with a health care system that is primarily profit 
driven...when so many people remain unhealthy...

So, unless the military and the health care providers are brought down to 
earth, and become more realistic, nothing is going to change...
Making drastic cut
s to programs that help the poor and middle class...will only increase human 
suffering further...

I also think the performance of Clint Eastwood gave a clear window into how two 
dimensional these people really are...

It's funny how the Republicans say the only thing that Obama can do is make a 
good speech...when they continue to search for someone on their side who can 
make a good speech...


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1"  wrote:
>
> Here's my Saturday afternoon "rap".
> I was focused on the Republican Convention and I listened mostly to the
> prime time speeches.
> I thought they were all pretty good.  Whether I agree with them or not,
> I thought they were good speeches.  And I admit, this crazy spending
> really bothers me.  I think there is plenty of blame to go around, but I
> think we do need to take steps to cut back on entitlements, etc.
> But I can't understand how Romney could have blown that speech so badly.
> I mean, the pundits have said that he met the minimum threshold of
> success in what he needed to do.
> For me, I sort of thought it was crazy to use the totally overused, "we
> put a man on the moon" example.  How tired has that become?  Can we move
> past JFK stating that we were going to do this, and it wasn't a matter
> of "if", but "when" thing.  And then making a point to cite Neal
> Armstrong.  Okay, yea he's a national hero if we want to honor him in
> that way.  But that was a long time ago.
> And then that crazy reference to Steve Jobs.  Can you believe that he
> trotted that totally overused example?   Could he not have been a little
> more creative in that regard?
> And then trying to be so dramatic about global warming and Obama
> promising stemming the rising tide of the oceans.  I don't think anyone
> was moved by that dramatic pause.
> It sounds to me, like he ignored the advice of the people who know how
> to write these kinds of speeches. and went ahead and crafted something
> on his own.
> I mean Mark Rubio came off great.  Paul Ryan, even his speech had some
> falsehoods was rousing to some extent.
> Ann made a decent attempt to seem that she could identify with normal
> people.
> What would I have liked to hear him say?  That this election is not
> about school prayer, or gay marriage, or even abortion.  It's about
> trying to rebuild the economy.
> The fact that he missed an opportunity to inspire his base, or even the
> independents, to whom I guess the speech was directed makes me less
> likely to support him, if I was going to do so in the first place.
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > Clint probably needs a checking. :-D
> >
> > On 09/01/2012 03:11 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > It took less than a day for the Republicans to throw
> > > Clint Eastwood under the bus and distance themselves
> > > from him:
> > >
> http://www.denverpost.com/romney/ci_21447153/romney-aides-distance-thems\
> elves-from-clint-eastwoods-rnc
> > >
> > > What I wonder is, will the TMO do the same?
> > >
> > > After all, Clint is a "celebrity spokesperson" for
> > > them, and has been for years. He's been presented as
> > > a shining example of how TM allows a person to grow
> > > old gracefully, and with all of their faculties intact.
> > > How long do you think it'll be until articles like
> > > these start disappearing from TMO-related websites?
> > >
> > >
> > > Getting better with age: Clint Eastwood and Transcendental
> Meditation
> > >
> http://www.tm.org/blog/people/better-with-age-clint-eastwood-transcenden\
> tal-meditation/
> > > 12 May 2010  December 2009 issue of GQ magazine- Clint Eastwood
> is certainly a prime example...
> > >
> > > Clint Eastwood: TM is a Great Tool to Overcome Stress
> > > http://www.tm.org/blog/people/clint-eastwood/
> > > 9 Aug 2011  Iconic actor, director, composer, filmmaker Clint
> Eastwood has been ...
> > >
> > > TM's Popularity Surges After Oprah's TV Show
> > > http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/after-oprah/
> > > 4 Apr 2012  The main Transcendental Meditation
> websiteTM.orgwas flooded with visitors ... [Clint Eastwood]
> > > "I've been using it for almost 40 years now.
> > >
> > > Clint Eastwood, Dr. Mehmet Oz, Katy Perry, Russell Simmons ...
> > >
> http://www.tm.org/blog/people/clint-eastwood-dr-oz-katy-perry-russell-si\
> mmons-russell-brand/
> > > 9 Nov 2010  "People like Clint Eastwood, one of the world's
> most acclaimed film

[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Reagan aide on the GOP

2012-09-01 Thread Robert



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> The Republicans are the party of "freedom and democracy." The 
> Republicans are the party most controlled by the neoconservatives, who 
> are strongly allied with Israel's far right-wing government and are most 
> hostile to the US Constitution. The Republicans are the party that gave 
> us the PATRIOT Act, the first massive assault on the US Constitution. 
> The Republicans are the party that gave us 9/11. The Republicans are the 
> party that gave us the $3 trillion war against Iraq based on the 
> Republican party's lies about "weapons of mass destruction." The 
> Republicans are the party that gave us the $3 trillion war in 
> Afghanistan based on lies about Osama bin Laden and the Taliban. The 
> Republicans are the party that gave us the supremacy of the President 
> over both the US Constitution and US statutory law; the executive branch 
> is bound by neither according to the Republican Federalist Society 
> members of the US Department of Justice (sic).
> 
> Obama is a despicable patsy, a front man for powerful private interests, 
> and Democrats should be totally ashamed to have elevated such a cowardly 
> lowlife. But as awful as Obama is, a vote for Republicans is a vote for 
> Hitler or Stalin. Indeed, the election of Romney and Ryan would be worse 
> than either.
> 
> By Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, a former economic advisor to Ronald Reagan. 
> Read the full article here:
> http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2012/08/30/putin-is-demonized-while-democracy-fails-in-amerika-paul-craig-roberts/
>
I do agree with what you say of the Republicans, but think you are being a bit 
harsh in your judgement of Obama...
I do think he was a bit naive when he thought he had a chance to work with 
these psychopaths during his first term...
What I really want to say, is that the last president who really stood up to 
the forces that you mention, was John Kennedy...and that seemed to have set a 
precedent for how far this people will tolerate being pushed back...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Repubs distance themselves from Clint; will TMO do the same?

2012-09-01 Thread Robert



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> TMers I know exist across a broad spectrum of political affiliation, some 
> even supporting Ron Paul.Â  Increased field independence perhaps?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 6:38 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repubs distance themselves from Clint; will TMO 
> do the same?
>  
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > It took less than a day for the Republicans to throw 
> > Clint Eastwood under the bus and distance themselves
> > from him:
> > http://www.denverpost.com/romney/ci_21447153/romney-aides-distance-themselves-from-clint-eastwoods-rnc
> > 
> > What I wonder is, will the TMO do the same? 
> 
> I wonder what the TMO has to say about political
> affiliations of long term TMers. Seems to me that
> a growth towards enlightenment would entail empathy
> and compassion, two traits which aren't an entirely
> good fit with right-wing party's. Shouldn't the 
> world family be a socialist affair? After all Nabby
> will tell us we don't need money and are indeed
> moving away from it (he thinks) so where is the
> research into meditatots changing long held political
> beliefs?

Perhaps it's because these long term TMers aren't becoming any more 
enlightened...what else would account for their ignorance?



> > After all, Clint is a "celebrity spokesperson" for 
> > them, and has been for years. He's been presented as
> > a shining example of how TM allows a person to grow
> > old gracefully, and with all of their faculties intact.
> > How long do you think it'll be until articles like
> > these start disappearing from TMO-related websites?
> > 
> > 
> > Getting better with age: Clint Eastwood and Transcendental Meditation
> > http://www.tm.org/blog/people/better-with-age-clint-eastwood-transcendental-meditation/
> > 12 May 2010 â" December 2009 issue of GQ magazine- Clint Eastwood is 
> > certainly a prime example... 
> > 
> > Clint Eastwood: TM is a Great Tool to Overcome Stress
> > http://www.tm.org/blog/people/clint-eastwood/
> > 9 Aug 2011 â" Iconic actor, director, composer, filmmaker Clint Eastwood 
> > has been ... 
> > 
> > TM's Popularity Surges After Oprah's TV Show
> > http://www.tm.org/blog/meditation/after-oprah/
> > 4 Apr 2012 â" The main Transcendental Meditation websiteâ"TM.orgâ"was 
> > flooded with visitors ... [Clint Eastwood] 
> > "I've been using it for almost 40 years now.
> > 
> > Clint Eastwood, Dr. Mehmet Oz, Katy Perry, Russell Simmons ...
> > http://www.tm.org/blog/people/clint-eastwood-dr-oz-katy-perry-russell-simmons-russell-brand/
> > 9 Nov 2010 â" "People like Clint Eastwood, one of the world's most 
> > acclaimed filmmakers...
> > 
> > Legendary directors mobilize to bring Transcendental Meditation to ...
> > http://www.tm.org/blog/news/legendary-directors-bring-transcendental-meditation-to-veterans/
> > 2 Dec 2010 â" Directors David Lynch, Clint Eastwood, Martin Scorsese, and 
> > George Lucas have mobilized together to support "Operation Warrior 
> > Wellness" ...
> > 
> > Transcendental Meditation helps Clint Eastwood be self-reliant
> > http://www.t-m.org.uk/meditation-news/2010/05/getting-better-with-age-clint-eastwood-and-transcendental-meditation/
> > 26 May 2010 â" Not only has kept his youthful strength, energy and 
> > good-looks, Eastwood has also continued to be incredibly prolific in his 
> > work. How does he ...
> > 
> > Print Page - Clint Eastwood Meditates every day
> > http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?action=printpage;topic=9206.0
> > 
> > On Being Blog â¢ Clint Eastwood and David Lynch Teach 10,000...
> > http://blog.onbeing.org/post/2301406990/clint-eastwood-and-david-lynch-teach-10-000
> > Clint Eastwood and David Lynch Teach 1 Veterans to Meditate with ...
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] 'Clint Eastwood- Send in the Clown'

2012-08-30 Thread Robert

What a sad performance...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious

2012-08-30 Thread Robert

This guy didn't do what he did alone...it's as though he's taking credit for 
the whole thing, which is ironic because that is what he's accusiing the 
President of doing...
President Obama showed a lot of guts to go ahead with this mission.
He wouldn't disrespect Bush, as we all know...
Exactly what rules he is breaking, I won't take the time to research it...it's 
just a general feeling I have about this guy...
The book is timed to be purely political, as are your intentions of defending 
him...
I'm sure he coordinated this book with the help of right-wing nuts...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> But, if he were disrespecting Bush, that would be OK I'm not so sure he's 
> violating any confidentiality agreements. Can you name any? The story, I 
> heard in the media, is that all proceeds from this book will go to charity. I 
> suspect your suspicions are based on the idea that he's, 
> somehow,Â *swift-boating* Obama. 60 Minutes(see Drudge Report)Â is 
> interviewing him. Why not hold off judgment on this true American hero until 
> he speaks?
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: Robert 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:49 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious
> Â   
> 
> Â   
>  
> This guy is a disappointing example of a Navy Seal...
> In that he is disrepecting his commander in chief...
> And, because he is disrespecting the his oath of loyalty to his commrades of 
> confidentiality...
> He is making money off of this book, and so we know that his motives are 
> suspect on all levels...
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious

2012-08-30 Thread Robert

Could be...I remember Bush saying that he wasn't worried about him anymore, 
when asked back around that time...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> Sorry but I think bin Laden is a myth more than anything else.  He's 
> sorta like the "villain" of many spy novels and has been propagandized 
> to that extent that anyone aware of such tactics would notice.  If you 
> do then you get called a "conspiracy theorist" and even that is part of 
> the tactic.  I've heard from too many sources that bin Laden was 
> actually killed at Tora Bora but not enough was left of his body for the 
> military to claim it.   Makes sense to me as also the idea that keeping 
> him "alive" in the public eye was useful to the military industrial 
> complex to keep the American sheeple in fear so that they would support 
> all kinds of excessive defense spending all to line pockets of the rich 
> pigs who run it.
> 
> 
> On 08/29/2012 11:56 PM, Robert wrote:
> > We are also aware that Osama bin Laden was trained the the U.S. in the 
> > 1980's...
> > Further was are aware that when U.S. forces had bin Laden in their sights, 
> > in Tora Bora, back in November of 2001, and reinforcments were need and not 
> > sent in time, and allowed him, bin Laden to escape...
> > This allowed a certain degree fear and trepidation to be used by the Bush 
> > Administration repeatedly to not only prop up the 'need' to invade 
> > Iraq...but also, to help Bush get re-elected in 2004, after bin Laden 
> > released a taped message, the weekend before that election...
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >> This guy is a disappointing example of a Navy Seal...
> >> In that he is disrepecting his commander in chief...
> >> And, because he is disrespecting the his oath of loyalty to his commrades 
> >> of confidentiality...
> >> He is making money off of this book, and so we know that his motives are 
> >> suspect on all levels...
> >>
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] 'Loving Compassion/Granddaughter of Death Camp Builder'

2012-08-30 Thread Robert

 
The granddaughter of an Auschwitz worker, German visitor Barbel Pfeiffer spoke 
to survivors and other descendants of Nazi collaborators during a visit to the 
death camp last week. (Photo credit: Heinz Reuss/TOS Ministries)
Like many of the visitors who cry at Auschwitz, Barbel Pfeiffer has a deeply 
personal connection to the Holocaust. But in Pfeiffer’s case, the relative who 
spent time at the infamous death camp wasn’t a prisoner. It was her 
grandfather, and he helped to build it.
“I have been in Auschwitz five times already, but every time I go, it makes me 
cry again,” says Pfeiffer, whose grandfather was one of those who installed the 
camp‘s electrical system and gas chambers.
For her latest visit, which took place last week, the 42-year-old German 
traveled to the camp as part of a 420-member delegation — an international 
group from countries including Israel, Poland and the United States
Pfeiffer’s grandfather, a German factory worker who avoided military service 
because of health problems, ended up at Auschwitz on a work project coordinated 
by his bosses. After the war, he avoided talking about his experiences — family 
members didn’t press him — and never met his granddaughter, the younger 
Pfeiffer says.
His connection to Auschwitz “came to light when my parents saw how much I 
researched my family history, and how badly I wanted to know what happened 
during that time,” Pfeiffer recalls. “They wanted to help me in every way they 
could.”
Pfeiffer’s father hadn’t been aware of his own father’s activities during the 
war, and learned from a relative who was surprised he didn’t know.
With her own children, Barbel Pfeiffer says, that sort of ignorance has come to 
an end. While she didn’t bring her two sons on this trip — her husband 
accompanied her instead — she considers it vital to educate them about the past.
“I called my sons from Auschwitz and told them how I felt,” she says. “They 
asked me, ‘Mother, are you crying?,’ and I said yes. I think it is very 
important to talk with them about it, and we do.”
“I called my sons from Auschwitz and told them how I felt,” Pfeiffer says. “I 
think it is very important to talk with them about it, and we do.”
Speaking at the March of Life‘s concluding ceremony in Warsaw, Knesset member 
Lia Shemtov told listeners that post-war generations needn’t feel guilty about 
the past, but that descendants of perpetrators nevertheless have a special 
responsibility toward Jews.
“They say children should not bear the sins of their parents as a mark of 
Cain,” Shemtov told her audience. “Unfortunately, the memory of the Holocaust 
haunts you today when you, second and third generations, are exposed to rising 
anti-Semitism in Europe [and] radical Islam’s hatred.”
For Pfeiffer, it’s a message that resonates powerfully. “We have just come from 
Auschwitz,” she says. “I told the Holocaust survivors, their children and their 
grandchildren, they are very precious people for me.”

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious

2012-08-29 Thread Robert

We are also aware that Osama bin Laden was trained the the U.S. in the 1980's...
Further was are aware that when U.S. forces had bin Laden in their sights, in 
Tora Bora, back in November of 2001, and reinforcments were need and not sent 
in time, and allowed him, bin Laden to escape...
This allowed a certain degree fear and trepidation to be used by the Bush 
Administration repeatedly to not only prop up the 'need' to invade Iraq...but 
also, to help Bush get re-elected in 2004, after bin Laden released a taped 
message, the weekend before that election...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
> This guy is a disappointing example of a Navy Seal...
> In that he is disrepecting his commander in chief...
> And, because he is disrespecting the his oath of loyalty to his commrades of 
> confidentiality...
> He is making money off of this book, and so we know that his motives are 
> suspect on all levels...
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: SEAL Book Explodes, Obama Furious

2012-08-29 Thread Robert

This guy is a disappointing example of a Navy Seal...
In that he is disrepecting his commander in chief...
And, because he is disrespecting the his oath of loyalty to his commrades of 
confidentiality...
He is making money off of this book, and so we know that his motives are 
suspect on all levels...

[FairfieldLife] Re: If you believed that you had THE solution to world peace, what could you justify

2012-08-29 Thread Robert

'There's something a happening and you don't know what it is...do you Mister 
Jones'...


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > If we are going to take as fact everything that gets posted on FFL, we are 
> > in a bad way. I'm disappointed in you, salyavin808, I thought you were a 
> > man of science, dedicated to dealing with the facts, and all that. And 
> > playing the Hitler card, too? Oh, dear. 
> > 
> 
> Aw, don't be disappointed, I'm only as good as my sources.
> Until the original poster confirms where he got the story
> from we won't know will we? 
> 
> BTW If you'd seen the German YNLP on manouvers you'd agree with
> me, I'm certain of it. Adolescents singing cheery songs about
> astrology chilled me to the bone. I shudder even now.
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Withholding passports..
> > > > 
> > > > You have proof of this, or just another rumor?
> > > 
> > > Just another rumour. Reported here, maybe who did can
> > > 'fess up and tell all.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > If you have proof, then you should have reported it to law enforcement 
> > > > along with your proof.
> > > > 
> > > > If you didn't do this, then you are every bit as lowlife as the people 
> > > > you are complaining about.
> > > 
> > > Steady on old boy! Good to see you have limits too though
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > L
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.reddit.com/r/philosophy/comments/yyczl/if_you_believed_that_you_had_the_solution_to/
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The second I finished posting the question, one of my fanboys 
> > > > > > downvoted me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You have fanboys?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Keeping a group of people locked up behind barbed wire fences 
> > > > > with a strict lifestyle and withholding their passports when
> > > > > they could be out in the world doing something useful with their
> > > > > lives is the sort of behaviour I couldn't stoop to. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > But then I don't believe it so I don't have the "it's for your 
> > > > > own good" argument to fall back on. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Teaching things like this in schools is also out of the question
> > > > > as kids are too suggestible. I've seen the european young natural
> > > > > law club in action and it gave me the creeps, like a sort of 
> > > > > flowery Hitler youth singing songs about jyotish and sthpatya ved. 
> > > > > Ought to be laws against it. File under creationism.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Basically you can do what you like as long as it doesn't hurt 
> > > > > anyone else, whether they are old enough to know better or not.
> > > > > Because one day you'll realise you've been had and you won't
> > > > > want any guilt connected with it.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > > L
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] 'Mitt Romney'- A Corporation or a person?...

2012-08-29 Thread Robert

Good Question1

[FairfieldLife] Re: Say it

2012-08-27 Thread Robert

Great message; great writing...there is hope for this world!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > Just when I think FFL can not get any richer or more beautiful than it is.
> 
> Whoa girl, you are easy to please. "FFL can not get any richer or more 
> beautiful"? Maybe you've been in FF too long, I'm not sure but for sure FFL 
> can get richer and more beautiful than it is, by a very, very, very long shot.
> 
> Â  It does.Â  Love having my heart astonished over and over again.Â  Now know 
> why you all keep talking about Curtis.Â  Way to ritam him back, I say.Â  And 
> thank you thank you thank you to Life Who keeps pouring gold into us all.Â  
> Gratitude, so much gratitude.Â  Goose bumps all over.Â  Words walking 
> backwards into silence... Â Â  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: "doctordumbass@" 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 12:14 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Say it
> >  
> > 
> > Â  
> > DD: Yes, It IS a beautiful Life! Thank you for this brilliant gem, Curtis. 
> > What an amazing piece of writing!
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > "It's a beautiful life, say it, say it." 
> > > 
> > > The last request had an urgency that I couldn't continue to ignore.  The 
> > > request was from Johnathan, who inexplicably changed his name to John 
> > > Paul in the last few years and gets very agitated if you forget.  He is a 
> > > twenty-two year old African American boy-child, and I have known him 
> > > since he was five.   His body has continued to grow, but his mind has not 
> > > kept pace. The euphemistic names for his condition don't give me any 
> > > distance from this human tragedy.
> > > 
> > > He has been listening to me play music every Summer weekend for most of 
> > > his life as he wanders around while his father busks in a revolutionary 
> > > war outfit playing the fife in historic Old Town Alexandria.  His dad is 
> > > one of the cheeriest guys I know, full of Christian greetings.  The kind 
> > > of dad who sprinkles his conversations with the word "blessing" while 
> > > standing next to his son lost in an internal world he cannot escape from 
> > > to join us on a more level playing field.  His dad and I often hug in 
> > > greeting, he from his boundless loving spirit, and me probably a little 
> > > from the guilt of knowing I dodged this bullet and he took it between the 
> > > eyes.
> > > 
> > > Johnathan "NO, IT'S JOHN PAUL NOW" calls me "Bludesman" and likes my 
> > > music.  No, that isn't exactly right, he hovers around me while I play 
> > > waiting for a break when I can join him in the odd handshake elbow bump 
> > > ritual we have created together.  He initiated it and I modified it.  
> > > Specifically I shifted the handshake into a fist bump when his hormones 
> > > switched on a number of years ago and I noticed that his hands spent a 
> > > lot of time South of the equator when not pressing my flesh.  He doesn't 
> > > mind the fist bump variation although I do have to remind him 
> > > occasionally.  He repeats the ritual sequence until I walk away with him 
> > > doing an awkward, urgent last one as I am moving out of reach.
> > > 
> > > He is part of my intersection of human universes when I perform outside 
> > > that includes homeless people and the very rich who bring their kids to 
> > > me for enrichment, so they can take their proper place in society where 
> > > John Paul is not headed.
> > > 
> > > John Paul is obsessed with the raising and lowering of the flag on the 
> > > docks.  It took me a long time to sort it all out when he would come up 
> > > to me and inform me that it was the end of the "duty day" and mutter 
> > > something about the flag.  WTF? I would ponder.  Does he mean doodie or 
> > > duty, and what does it have to do with the flag?  One day it all broke 
> > > clear: at the beginning of the "duty day" (his dad is in the military) 
> > > the flag goes up and at the end of the "duty day" they take it down.  He 
> > > "records" this event faithfully each weekend day and night with a camera 
> > > phone that has not been charged for a long time.  I sat facing this flag 
> > > pole performing for seventeen years and never really noticed this ritual 
> > > event consciously. Now that I am in on the secret it delights him to use 
> > > me as an obsession sounding board like some old codger at the bar who 
> > > wont shut up about golf to non-golfers. 
> > > 
> > > I enjoy this narrow ramp into his tiny world and we run the reps 
> > > together.  "Why do they take down the flag" he asks me earnestly as if it 
> > > was the very first time.  "Because it is the end of the duty day" I feed 
> > > back my well rehearsed line.  He lights up at the prompt.  "YES it is the 
> > > end of the duty day and the flag comes down."

[FairfieldLife] Re: GOD hates GOP

2012-08-26 Thread Robert

Perhaps 'God' doesn't care, really...either way...with human folly.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> OR God loves the GOP. Convention goers will be inside partying while 
> protesters are outside getting drenched! Barry, haven't you ever been to a 
> hurricane party? I'm jus say'n.
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: TurquoiseB 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 10:55 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] GOD hates GOP
>   
> 
> Â   
>  
> Just sayin'...
> 
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/25/florida-governor-declares_n_1830114.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: creative TMers who more than make up for alleged uncreative TMers

2012-08-24 Thread Robert

Yeah, that really explains what happened to Paul's music ability and 
creativity...
Thanks for exposing this...as now we know...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> Oh God, you gotta love it! I think he neglected to mention that when he was 
> doing the David Lynch thing. Thanks for posting that, I had not seen it 
> before.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: TurquoiseBee 
> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"  
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:42 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: creative TMers who more than make up for alleged 
> uncreative TMers
>  
> 
> Â  
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > I sure would like to know why Paul McCartney and Ringo 
> > Starr have promoted the David Lynch push to get TM in 
> > schools all these years after having walked away from 
> > Maharishi.
> 
> Senility?Â  :-)
> 
> Or, in Paul's case, it could just be a case of jitters
> caused by revealing in Rolling Stone in February that he
> had *finally* stopped smoking marijuana. He's Jonesing.
> 
> http://hollywoodlife.com/2012/02/16/paul-mccartney-quits-marijuana-rolling-stone/
> 
> A better question might be why TMers who have been asked
> to demonstrate a single instance of personal creativity
> keep pointing to people who were both creative and 
> famous long before they learned TM. Wouldn't it have
> been simpler for them to just...uh...be creative?
> 
> I mean, HOW HARD IS THAT?
> 
> Posting a recipe that you've come up with yourself
> is creative. Sharing a great photo or video you've taken 
> 
> is creative. Writing a poem -- however uninspired
> or classically poetic it may be -- is creative. Heck, one
> could just try to write a haiku. That's only 17 syllables 
> 
> worth of effort, y'know, sorta like:
> 
> on this summer day
> asked to be creative I
> can't figure out how
> 
> After all these decades of claiming that "TM produces
> this..." and "TM allows you to experience this...," 
> you'd
>  think that people on this forum would be just
> chomping at the bit to *demonstrate* these qualities
> in their own life. 
> 
> But recently, when someone asked those who feel that
> TM enhances spiritual experience to write up something
> in their Here And Now lives that they considered 
> spiritual, there were no responses. 
> 
> Similarly, when those who feel that TM enhances creativity
> were asked to...uh...be a little creative, same thing. 
> Nada. Zip. Bupkus. 
> 
> Just misdirection, pointing to people who were creative
> LONG before they ever heard of TM, as if that would make
> the requests seem to go away. Or attacks on the person
> who asked the question. 
> 
> Why would these spiritual, creative TMers *do* this?
> 
> Oh. 
> 
> Never mind. 
> 
> > 
> >Â  From: Share Long 
> >Â Â  
> > OTOH maybe they bribed Jerry Seinfeld who really
>  needs the money 
> > 
> > Or maybe they promised him one of the retired MIU campus vehicles 
> > to add to his fancy car collection.
> > 
> > 
> >Â  From: raunchydog 
> >Â  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > Since they appear in and at TM promotions, I assume it's 
> > > because they at least partially attribute their continuing 
> > > and or expanding creativity to TM practice.
> > 
> > Thanks for pointing this out, Share. Funny how TM critics 
> > prefer to ignore the obvious.
> > 
> > > 
> > >Â  From: Susan 
> > > 
> > > There are loads and loads of artists, actors, and celebs 
> > > who have learned (and some still do) TM. But many you 
> > > never know about
>  since they ask that it be kept private.Â  
> > > Virtually all of them were creative and famous BEFORE 
> > > they learned TM. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Clint Eastwood, Jerry Seinfeld, the Beatles, Howard Stern, 
> > > > David Lynch, Ellen Degeneres, the Beach Boys, etc.
> > > > 
> > > > Of course to grok this, one's brain must be able to CREATE 
> > > > new neural pathways, yes?
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] 'Republicans- Rape the Vote'

2012-08-24 Thread Robert

Another play on words...

[FairfieldLife] 'Republicans want to Abort the Vote'...

2012-08-24 Thread Robert

Play on words...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Anti-abortion mainstreamed to GOP politics

2012-08-22 Thread Robert

We would be teaching what Maharishi said to teach, in Guru Dev's name...
Guru Dev was a renunciate...he had no possessions...
TM is a very simple effortless technique...that's simply what it is.
It gives good results..

We keep it simple...we don't talk about politics or money or religion...

I don't think that most business people are racists...
They sell to whomever will give them the money...that is what business 
is...racism is not only evil, but it is bad for business...

I agree that we are in a time that is in need of more compassion, and less 
judgement...

I think that we are on the same page, Mike...

Politics is inherently controversal...

Hopefully we can all work together instead of working against each other...

Robert


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> 
> Roberto, first of all, you cause me no stress, just some giggles. I 
> justÂ picture you giving an introductory lecture on TM using this same 
> rhetoric. Instead of driving the money changers from the temple, you'd be 
> driving the TM curious from the Peace Palaces.LOL! Do you really think most 
> Christian business men are 
> racist?Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: Robert 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 6:56 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Anti-abortion mainstreamed to GOP 
> politics
>   
> 
> Â   
>  
> Mike, Jesus overturned the tables in the Temple...
> Most of his followers at the time, were considered outcasts...
> The Romans were crucifying people for any reason to terrorize the people...
> You don't know what you are talking about...
> I'm not giving lip service to anyone...
> Just stating what I believe to be true...
> I am not creating stress as  you say...if something I said upset you, then 
> you must have some doubts yourself...
> 
> Maharishi catered to the rich; that's just a fact...
> He didn't start out that way, but money has the tendency to change people for 
> the worst...
> 
> Sorry if I said something to upset you; that wasn't my intention...
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  
> wrote:
> >
> > Robert... Jesus said that he came for the *sinner*,(gold 
> > worshipers,republicans etc.) not the righteous, like yourself. He referred 
> > to the ones that called themselves righteous as Whited sepulchers, all 
> > clean and white on the outside but full of dead men's bones and corruption 
> > inside and as vipers and brooder vipers, standing in the doorway to the 
> > kingdom of heaven, neither entering nor allowing others to enter. BTW, 
> > wasn't one of the final instructions in the three days checking to NOT 
> > cause or create stress? Are you and everybody else on FFLÃÂ justÃÂ giving 
> > lip service to the TM program?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: Robert 
> > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:56 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Anti-abortion mainstreamed to 
> > GOP politics
> > 
> > 
> > ÃÂ  
> > 
> > I'm not sure why the Republicans are so obssessed with abortion...
> > I guess they use it to get people stirred up...
> > I wouldn't vote for any Republican, Richard...
> > And many people in Fairfield are gold worshippers, as Maharishi was 
> > himself...
> > So, they pick Ron Paul, who is a neo-nazi, and a gold worshipper...
> > 
> > Like I said Richard, these people who worship gold, give lip service to 
> > 'Christianity' while most of them are racist, shallow and really haven't 
> > come up with anything creative...they just parrot the same old sh_t.
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Emily Reyn:
> > > > No one should be voting for the GOP ticket this election.
> > > > 
> > > So, I guess you're not going to vote for Terry E. Branstad or Chuck 
> > > Grassley!
> > > 
> > > It's not that simple, just to listen to a TV commentator like Rachel 
> > > Maddow. Not everyone agrees on the 'point of viability' for a fetus, and 
> > > stat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Anti-abortion mainstreamed to GOP politics

2012-08-22 Thread Robert

Mike, Jesus overturned the tables in the Temple...
Most of his followers at the time, were considered outcasts...
The Romans were crucifying people for any reason to terrorize the people...
You don't know what you are talking about...
I'm not giving lip service to anyone...
Just stating what I believe to be true...
I am not creating stress as  you say...if something I said upset you, then you 
must have some doubts yourself...

Maharishi catered to the rich; that's just a fact...
He didn't start out that way, but money has the tendency to change people for 
the worst...

Sorry if I said something to upset you; that wasn't my intention...



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Robert... Jesus said that he came for the *sinner*,(gold 
> worshipers,republicans etc.) not the righteous, like yourself. He referred to 
> the ones that called themselves righteous as Whited sepulchers, all clean and 
> white on the outside but full of dead men's bones and corruption inside and 
> as vipers and brooder vipers, standing in the doorway to the kingdom of 
> heaven, neither entering nor allowing others to enter. BTW, wasn't one of the 
> final instructions in the three days checking to NOT cause or create stress? 
> Are you and everybody else on FFLÂ justÂ giving lip service to the TM program?
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: Robert 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:56 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Anti-abortion mainstreamed to GOP 
> politics
>   
> 
> Â   
>  
> I'm not sure why the Republicans are so obssessed with abortion...
> I guess they use it to get people stirred up...
> I wouldn't vote for any Republican, Richard...
> And many people in Fairfield are gold worshippers, as Maharishi was himself...
> So, they pick Ron Paul, who is a neo-nazi, and a gold worshipper...
> 
> Like I said Richard, these people who worship gold, give lip service to 
> 'Christianity' while most of them are racist, shallow and really haven't come 
> up with anything creative...they just parrot the same old sh_t.
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > Emily Reyn:
> > > No one should be voting for the GOP ticket this election.
> > > 
> > So, I guess you're not going to vote for Terry E. Branstad or Chuck 
> > Grassley!
> > 
> > It's not that simple, just to listen to a TV commentator like Rachel 
> > Maddow. Not everyone agrees on the 'point of viability' for a fetus, and 
> > state laws vary.
> > 
> > Many members of the GOP are opposed to aborting a viable fetus, that's 
> > true. 
> > 
> > But, most Americans are opposed to partial-birth abortions. MMY was opposed 
> > to women having abortions and from what I've read, most of the TMers living 
> > in Fairfield are fans of Ron Paul. Go figure! But, at least half of the 
> > people living in Iowa vote for the GOP. 
> > 
> > In fact, the U.S. Supreme Court does not recognize a woman's right to 
> > abortion in all cases. 
> > 
> > For example, in the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003. The U.S. 
> > Supreme Court (Gonzales v. Carhart) said that the statute does not violate 
> > the U.S. Constitution. 
> > 
> > So, if you wanted to have an abortion in Iowa, you'd have to find a doctor 
> > who could find a work-around to the federal law banning late-term 
> > abortions. Are there any Democratic Party candidates who support lifting 
> > the ban?
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Anti-abortion mainstreamed to GOP politics

2012-08-22 Thread Robert

I'm not sure why the Republicans are so obssessed with abortion...
I guess they use it to get people stirred up...
I wouldn't vote for any Republican, Richard...
And many people in Fairfield are gold worshippers, as Maharishi was himself...
So, they pick Ron Paul, who is a neo-nazi, and a gold worshipper...

Like I said Richard, these people who worship gold, give lip service to 
'Christianity' while most of them are racist, shallow and really haven't come 
up with anything creative...they just parrot the same old sh_t.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Emily Reyn:
> > No one should be voting for the GOP ticket this election.
> > 
> So, I guess you're not going to vote for Terry E. Branstad or Chuck Grassley!
> 
> It's not that simple, just to listen to a TV commentator like Rachel Maddow. 
> Not everyone agrees on the 'point of viability' for a fetus, and state laws 
> vary.
> 
> Many members of the GOP are opposed to aborting a viable fetus, that's true. 
> 
> But, most Americans are opposed to partial-birth abortions. MMY was opposed 
> to women having abortions and from what I've read, most of the TMers living 
> in Fairfield are fans of Ron Paul. Go figure! But, at least half of the 
> people living in Iowa vote for the GOP. 
> 
> In fact, the U.S. Supreme Court does not recognize a woman's right to 
> abortion in all cases. 
> 
> For example, in the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003. The U.S. Supreme 
> Court (Gonzales v. Carhart) said that the statute does not violate the U.S. 
> Constitution. 
> 
> So, if you wanted to have an abortion in Iowa, you'd have to find a doctor 
> who could find a work-around to the federal law banning late-term abortions. 
> Are there any Democratic Party candidates who support lifting the ban?
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'People or Profit?'...

2012-08-22 Thread Robert

I hear a sucking sound coming from Texas...
Perhaps it's all the money we pay for gas to drive that gets sucked out of the 
economy to support these Texas Republicans and their war-mongerinig ways...
Do we need some more nukes, Richard...don't we have enough military by now...
Do we really want to take over the world, like the Nazis did, Richard...
You know as well as me, that you live in a racist state, with that sucking 
sound, as billions of dollars go down the drain, with the likes of Rick Perry, 
Bush and Rove...
Wake up Richard...you have blinders on...my friend...
If it was up to the Republicans they would rather throw food away, then give 
food stamps...
Greedy bastards it what I say!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Robert:
> > This is how we lost democracy in the United 
> > States...
> >
> The United States is not a pure democracy, it's a 
> federal republic with a representative governemtnt 
> and an electoral college. 
> 
> > Because this goes against the main tenent of the 
> > United States Consitution...
> >
> Obviously it took money to compose and print the 
> United States Consitution.
> 
> > Which is about: 'A government by the people and 
> > for the people...
> >
> The people of the individual states have the right 
> to generate profit, Robert - they didn't need a 
> federal government to do that. The people are the
> states.
> 
> What they needed was a 'more perfect union' in 
> order to pay for defense and to pay debts. The
> colonies already  had the Magna Carta. Go figure.
> 
> > The choice in this election is that simple...
> > 
> Do you know what the word 'commerce' means? The 
> U.S. government was formed in order to enable 
> commerce between states and other nations. 
> 
> That's why most people tend to vote Republican - 
> in order to be able to pay their debts, enjoy the 
> fruits of their labor, and to protect themselves. 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce_Clause
>

[FairfieldLife] Hurricane headed for Republican Convention...?

2012-08-22 Thread Robert

http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/isaac-may-impact-2012-republic/70534

[FairfieldLife] 'People or Profit?'...

2012-08-21 Thread Robert

Given the choice between people and profit;
The current candidates and Republican Party members...
Always seem to choose profit..

This is how we lost democracy in the United States...
Because this goes against the main tenent of the United States Consitution...
Which is about: 'A government by the people and for the people...

The choice in this election is that simple...
But, we must overcome the obstacles the Republicans have put in the way of the 
people to vote, especially in Philadelphia, where btw, this country got it's 
original start...crazy, huh>?

R...

[FairfieldLife] More on Voter Suppression throughout the States'

2012-08-18 Thread Robert

Huffington Post

Dan Froomkin

froom...@huffingtonpost.com


WASHINGTON -- Four years ago, on the Sunday before Election Day 2008, members 
of predominantly African American congregations in Cleveland went straight from 
celebrating God to rejoicing in their right to vote.

"We had buses at every church that Sunday," recalled the Rev. Emmitt Theophilus 
Caviness, the 83-year-old pastor of Cleveland's Greater Abyssinia Baptist 
Church. "As soon as we left church, we got on the bus and went down to vote."

At the board of elections office, Caviness told HuffPost, "you would have seen 
long lines wrapped around corners. People were enthusiastic. They were having 
fun."

It was a first in so many ways. But one of the most important of those ways was 
the new Ohio law that allowed voting on a Sunday. "It never would have happened 
had we not had early voting -- the opportunity on the last weekend to 
participate in democracy," Caviness said.

Four year earlier, the November election in Ohio was a debacle. Shortages of 
voting machines in some minority neighborhoods led to thousands of voters 
giving up their franchise rather than waiting for as long as 10 hours for their 
turn. Other votes went uncounted.

In response, Ohio's legislature established early in-person voting, 
supplementing traditional Election Day voting and mail-in absentee ballots. 
Voters would now have 35 days before the election to cast ballots, including 
that final weekend. In 2008, some 93,000 Ohioans -- including the members of 
the Greater Abyssinia Baptist Church -- cast votes during those last three days 
before the election. 

But early voting was apparently too much of a success for some people. In Ohio 
and four other states -- Florida, Georgia, Tennessee and West Virginia -- 
Republican-led legislatures have dramatically reduced early voting in 2012 as 
part of what can only be explained as a concerted effort to suppress the votes 
of Democratic-leaning voters. Other parts of that effort include voter ID bils, 
intimidation of voter registration groups and the purges of voter rolls.




In Ohio and Florida, two of the most critical swing states in this year's 
presidential election, the GOP early voting rollback specifically included a 
ban on voting on the Sunday before Election Day.

Early voting started off a wildly popular, bipartisan element of voting reform. 
Indeed, of all the voting reforms this country has seen over the last decades, 
early voting is easily the most unassailable. It makes voting more convenient 
for the public and makes Election Day easier for election officials. Because it 
generally happens at board of elections offices, it takes notoriously 
unreliable volunteer poll workers out of the picture. 

But Republican leaders cooled on the idea after 2008. "It just so happened that 
this was the first time that early voting had been used in large numbers to 
mobilize African American and Latino voters," said Wendy Weiser, who directs 
the Democracy Program at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University 
School of Law.

After the GOP won control of many statehouses in 2010, rolling back early 
voting became a top legislative priority. That meant reducing the period for 
early in-person voting in Florida from 14 to 8 days, and in Ohio, from 35 to 
11. And no voting on Sunday before the election.

"I try to be an objective observer," said professor Paul Gronke, who runs the 
nonpartisan Early Voting Information Center at Reed College in Oregon. "But the 
objective facts indicate there seem to be partisan motivations behind the 
ratcheting back of early in-person voting."

Research by an Ohio voter advocacy group found that blacks made up more than 
half the early in-person voters in 2008, compared with about a quarter of 
people who vote on Election Day or by mail.

Research by political scientists at Dartmouth College and the University of 
Florida concluded that "Democratic, African American, Hispanic, younger, and 
first-time voters were disproportionately likely to vote early in 2008 and in 
particular on weekends, including the final Sunday of early voting."

"We should be increasing access to vote, not taking it away," said Ohio state 
Sen. Nina Turner, a Cleveland Democrat. "You got a lot of working people, 
working-class folks, some people have to piece together three to four jobs, why 
wouldn't we have extended hours and extended days?"

The question ultimately answers itself. "For me, this is Jim Crow in the 21st 
century," Turner said. "Jim Crow has been resurrected. This is by design. It's 
not by accident."

Republican explanations for rolling back early voting include unsupported 
suggestions of voter fraud. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, 
said in a newspaper op-ed that his goal "has been to balance access and 
accuracy," and that he was simply trying to establish "a uniform system across 
the state" with the early voting rules.

But Pastor Caviness said he thinks Repub

[FairfieldLife] Philadelphia Inquirer- Voter Suppression in Pennsylvania

2012-08-18 Thread Robert

Philadelphia Inquirer Editorial: Voter ID simply unnecessary

August 17, 2012

By Mike Turzai

Commonwealth Court Judge Robert E. Simpson's refusal to stop Pennsylvania from 
potentially denying hundreds of thousands of voters their constitutional right 
to cast a ballot is disturbing.

Simpson's ruling Wednesday validating the state's new voter-ID law is steeped 
in legal precedents, but the past rulings he cites appear to be just as 
ideologically based.

Allegations that the ID law is a ploy to suppress the minority vote in the 
forthcoming presidential election have been bolstered by the unguarded 
statements of a top Republican legislator. House Speaker Mike Turzai (R., 
Allegheny) said the law "is going to allow Gov. Romney to win the state of 
Pennsylvania."

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But Simpson's opinion seems to say that comment doesn't matter. He cited the 
U.S. Supreme Court's 2008 ruling in favor of Indiana's voter-ID law, which he 
said concluded that "even if partisan considerations played a significant role 
in the decision to enact the statute, the valid neutral justifications advanced 
by the state in protecting the integrity and reliability of the electoral 
process" warranted the law.

In other words, the ends justify the means, even if the means take away 
people's right to vote.

Turzai had the gall to issue a statement Wednesday hailing the ruling. "The 
integrity of each and every valid vote was upheld today," he said. "Qualified 
voters will have their votes counted."

Trial testimony showed the state was ill-prepared to ensure the voting rights 
of its 8.3 million registered voters, many of whom will likely be barred from 
voting because they lack the right ID.

Simpson said he had faith that the state could inform voters of the new rules. 
But he did not seem to understand that, even if they know what the law 
requires, too many voters may not be able to get a qualified ID.

The most common acceptable form of identification is a driver's license or a 
non-driving ID issued by the state Department of Transportation. But by the 
state's own calculations, 758,000 people lack those documents.

Simpson, who became a Republican after losing the Democratic nomination in a 
1989 judicial race, was likely under tremendous pressure from fellow 
Republicans. True or not, many will believe his ruling reflects GOP ideology.

Plaintiffs have vowed to appeal the decision to the state Supreme Court. But 
with Republican Justice Joan Orie Melvin suspended pending her trial on 
misuse-of-office charges, the court is split, with three Democrats and three 
Republicans. A deadlock means Simpson's awful decision stands.

If it does, Pennsylvania will step backward in time to an era when the vote was 
not guaranteed to everyone. Simpson downplayed that possibility, saying the 
voter-ID law doesn't specifically mention "any class or group," so "its 
provisions are neutral and nondiscriminatory."

The judge must have forgotten that poll-tax laws didn't specify black people, 
but they were written to keep African Americans from voting. And poor white 
people were disfranchised as well.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'All can Vote in Iraq/but not in America?'

2012-08-18 Thread Robert

Many Republican ruled States have issued new laws that require state issued 
I.D.'s to vote...
Some older people and people who don't drive in cities like Philly, don't have 
such ID's and it's hard for them to get...
This is one way the Republicans won in 2004, for example in Ohio; where 
thousands of people had to wait in line for hours, because of inadequate voting 
hours and machines to take there votes...
This is a big problem in this years election, as the Republicans have decided 
that voter suppression gives them the best chance of winning...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Can you give us a source for your statement?  We would like to know who is 
> suppressing what group from voting?
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
> > How strange! We fight a war in Iraq and make sure all can vote; while 
> > suppressing the vote here...
> > 
> > Voter suppression will be especially bad in Philadelphia, where this crazy 
> > country got started...
> > 
> > Strange days ahead in Amerika...
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] 'All can Vote in Iraq/but not in America?'

2012-08-18 Thread Robert

How strange! We fight a war in Iraq and make sure all can vote; while 
suppressing the vote here...

Voter suppression will be especially bad in Philadelphia, where this crazy 
country got started...

Strange days ahead in Amerika...

[FairfieldLife] 'Cosmic Photo of President Obama in Iowa'

2012-08-15 Thread Robert

View this image ›
A light shines behind President Barack Obama as he speaks during a campaign 
event at Bayliss Park, Monday, Aug. 13, 2012, in Council Bluffs, Iowa, during a 
three day campaign bus tour through Iowa. Image by Carolyn Kaster / AP

[FairfieldLife] Re: Time, and the wasting of it vs. the investment of it

2012-08-13 Thread Robert

Perhaps when one is enlightened, they view death as nothing more than going to 
sleep for a while...
Since they can maintain awareness, while they are in deep sleep, there is not 
so much fear of death, as the end of everything...
There is much more acceptance of what death is, so not so much fear of the 
ending of this life...
But I do appreciate what you are saying, that as we get older it is good to 
take new chances of meeting new people, and taking part in new activities...
Many people are afraid to retire and stay at their jobs, because they don't 
know what they would do with all the extra time, on their hands...
So, being aware of what life is, and what death is...as we get older, is of 
primary importance...and continuing to evolve and perhaps serve in some way to 
give back what you have learned through your years, on this watery blue 
planet...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > If non-attachment is a sign of enlightenment then 
> > there is very little of enlightenment to be found 
> > on this funny farm. :-D
> 
> You said it, bro. :-)
> 
> Now *that* I consider an invitation to a cool
> conversation, as opposed to a time-wasting
> argument. What IS the relationship of attach-
> ment to enlightenment, or to progress along
> the spiritual path?
> 
> I tend to agree with you, or what I sense in
> your words. The more attachment -- to ideas,
> to spiritual teachers or paths, to concepts,
> to past grudges or the anticipation of future
> retribution for them, to *anything* -- the
> less I interpret that as enlightenment or
> the growing infusion of it.
> 
> "Line on stone" is so yesterday, after all.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Projects

2012-08-13 Thread Robert

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
>
> 
> Well that's my whole point, Bevan was looking at this guy as a potential 
> donor, not as someone who might benefit from the practice of meditation. When 
> I learned to do TM it was taught and promoted for its benefits to individuals 
> and society. It took some years for me to realize they really didn't give a 
> rat's behind about people's individual well being.
> 
> The basic difficulties that most of us rank and file meditators began to have 
> with the Movement was with the behavior of the people who ran the Movement 
> being so different from the ideals the Movement espoused.
> 
> To look at a man for what he can do for you, rather than what you can offer 
> him is getting way away from the 7 goals of the world plan for instance, and 
> given the fact that if this man gave every cent he had and had no more to 
> give I think most of us know the Movement would turn its back on him since he 
> had no more to give.
> 
> Do you think Bevan would call this guy to see how he was doing, how his wife 
> and kids were if he had given all to the Movement and had no more funds to 
> give? Not on your life. 
> 
> When you add to this the fact that nearly every single one of the Movement 
> projects that are paid for by others never materialize, it seems rather crass 
> to say the least to look at this guy as the Golden Goose.
> (snip)
Bevan is a strange bird...is the reason...
He's never lived outside the organization since he was more or less a child...
It's like he inherited the whole thing, because he put his time in to serve 
Maharishi without ever questioning anything...
Maharishi was obsessed with bringing his knowledge to the world...
He always would do anything that he felt would get him publicity or money or 
anything that would spread his teaching...
Because this material world respects money and power, this is where he put his 
focus many times..

Perhaps if we had the leadership of Jerry Jarvis, who has lived in the world, 
is married and would never do some of the things that were done since his 
departure...

Most of the people who relate to Bevan are celebate people on Purusha and 
Mother Divine...these people are completely devoted, many are escaping the 
world, and many have no idea how the world works...

So, in a way, Maharishi created a 'Cave-Like' structure for these people, away 
from the world...

Also, in many traditions, the giving of money shows the devotion of the giver, 
and what is done with the money, is not so much of an issue...

Look at the Roman Catholic Church, which is one of the richest organizations in 
the world...
They were supporting many priests who were very sick individuals, who were 
perpetrating all kinds of weird twisted sexual advances on children..

When you mix celibacy with money and power, something is bound to be weird 
about it...

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM Projects

2012-08-11 Thread Robert

Yes, many people became disillusioned with the Movement and Maharishi when he 
showed so much interest in business and money making...
I guess he felt that he needed to 'Strike when the iron is Hot'...as  he always 
liked to say...
The culture he came from is so poor, which so many people starving, that I 
think he must have felt he needed to accumulate as much wealth as possible to 
keep the movement going and to support people in India and the revival of 
Veda-ism...and so on...

In my mind Maharishi had certain personality traits that upset some people, but 
he was only doing what he felt was his Dharma...and that is to teach TM 
worldwide to as many people as possible..

Plus he got burnt quite a few times, and always felt that people still didn't 
'get' what  he was teaching...

So, with money and with sex and with power, there is always a lot of 
controversy

Bevan always seemed to support Maharishi's thinking, as the perfect 
'yes-man'...but I don't know how much Maharishi liked him...
I think he was just good for business...

I think probably Maharishi had more love and respect for Jerry Jarvis, but 
Jerry wasn't really a good 'Yes-Man'...

And so it goes...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
>
> Ha! That's true - I stopped actively participating in the Movement after a 2 
> year stint working on staff at MIU (wonder if there are any statistics for 
> how many people quit the Movement after a staff experience at a Movement 
> facility)
> 
> So I wasn't totally aware of all the projects - oddly enough when I was still 
> a Movement junky the very first time I had an odd feeling about it all was 
> during the Taste of Utopia course in '83-'84 when Maharishi asked for some 
> large amount of cash for some project. I remember feeling "Didn't he just ask 
> for a bunch of money for some other project a year or so ago?"
> 
> Writing this reminds me of a staff meeting we had with Bevan when he had just 
> come back from Europe with M and was talking in glowing terms about some guy 
> they had heard of who was loaded, as Bevan said 
> 
> "He is as rich as Croesus. And these are the kinds of people we need to get 
> meditating. Because if he starts doing TM, he can give us his money and we 
> can use his money to further the cause of bringing the world to 
> enlightenment."
> 
> I remember thinking what about his personal enlightenment? What about the 
> benefits to the rich guy? You only want him for his money?"
> 
> but as I was not yet ready to leave MIU I kept that though to myself.
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mjackson74"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any idea of how many projects the Movement and Maharishi 
> > > solicited funds for which subsequently were never built or completed?
> > 
> > A lot less than those realized.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] 'Ragin' Ruthless Romney's Circus of Horrors'...

2012-08-11 Thread Robert

Will we get the Ruthless Romney Circus of Horrors...

As Rush Limbaugh spews his garbage...
As Michelle Bachman spews her devil talk...
As Dick Cheney spews his torture nonsense...
As Donald Trump spews his egotistical garbage...
As Ann Romny dances her horse around the manure...

Are we really going back to 'Cheneyville'...a very scarey place indeed...

Are we really too peaceful with President Obama that we want to go back to 
chaos and confusion..?
 
A takeover of our country by corporate interests with no controls, whatsoever?

Mussolini style facism?

Come on folks...

[FairfieldLife] Re: GOP Has a Non-Protestant Presidential Ticket

2012-08-11 Thread Robert

Yeah, but this Mormon guy, who is high up in the hierarchy of Mormonism, might 
just sell America to Utah, or try to make us all like the people in Utah...have 
you ever been to Utah...it's a beautiful place but really uptight, in so many 
ways...

It call be a really bad movie if Romney wins...
Like a Roman Circus of horrors...

Why would we want any Republican in such a short time after Georgie Bush..? Are 
we really that insane as a collective consciousness?

Come on...!
Glenn Beck, Donald Trump, all of these bastards? Do we really want this kind of 
ignorance running this super power???

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Religion may not matter during this election.  IMO, it will come down to what 
> Romney says that will concern most Americans.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > It appears that the GOP handlers think this ticket is acceptable to most 
> > > Americans.  Perhaps, it's because many Americans don't think Obama is a 
> > > Christian.
> > > 
> > > http://news.yahoo.com/romney-ryan-means-no-protestant-presidential-ticket-first-103055320.html
> > >
> > 
> > Gee, I wonder how that happened? Maybe is was the corporate shills, Faux 
> > Noise Machine, Breitbart toadies, Beck, Rush and the Teabagger Congress 
> > Critters polluting the media with racist dog whistles for the past four 
> > years that Americans think Obama is a Kenyan-Socialist-America-Hating 
> > Bastard Son of Frank Marshall Davis and not a Christian. Anyway...
> > 
> > "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office 
> > or public Trust under the United States."
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: GOP Has a Non-Protestant Presidential Ticket

2012-08-11 Thread Robert

The one who is not a 'Christian' is Romney, because Mormons are not Christians, 
as it is a made up religion, based in racism and polygomy...
They have a very closed social system, based in closed mindedness...
Very dangerous person to be president of an open society, because these people 
want to take the country back to Dick Cheney territory...

I pray to God that President Obama wins a second term!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> It appears that the GOP handlers think this ticket is acceptable to most 
> Americans.  Perhaps, it's because many Americans don't think Obama is a 
> Christian.
> 
> http://news.yahoo.com/romney-ryan-means-no-protestant-presidential-ticket-first-103055320.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh Yeah! Paul Ryan next VP

2012-08-11 Thread Robert

Since the 1980's when Reagan sold out this country to corporate interests, 
outsourcing, hidiing money overseas, it has been harder and harder for people 
to make a decent living...
Multi-National Corporations have ruthlessly continue to nickel and dime 
everyone, and refuse to pay taxes...

When so much wealth has been hoarded at the top, it is time to force a 'Trickle 
Down' by taxing the wealthy at the top, as they can surely afford it...

Romney has never had the experience of wondering where his next dollar is going 
to come from; because like George Bush, he was born rich...

To think that these Corporate types have anything in mind except to continuing 
to pump money to the military for contracts we don't need, pump money to the 
rich who don't need it, and let the infrastructure continue to deterorate, is 
just plain stupid...
Vote for intelligence and compassion: Obama/Biden 2012.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Romney/Ryan, a ticket serious about fiscal conservatism and entitlement 
> reform. You can't ask for a clearer choice about the direction of the 
> country. Tax and spend or Not to tax and spend, that is the question. Will we 
> face four more years of trillion dollar deficits, exploding debt, 
> unemployment, and punishing success or will we stop the insanity? Change! YES 
> WE CAN!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh Yeah! Paul Ryan next VP

2012-08-11 Thread Robert

George W. Bush was a business guy too...so I don't know why this is a plus...
Corporations can be ruthless, and Romney fits that description...
We pray that the United States does not fall prey to ruthless leaders, like the 
Republican Right Wing Facists'...
Obama/Biden 2012; compassionate intelligent leadership for a strong America...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Mike Dixon:
> > Oh Yeah! Paul Ryan next VP
> >
> Obama never held a real job so he knows next to 
> nothing about being an entrepeneur. So, I'm going 
> to vote for the business man and the budget man. 
> 
> "If you have a small business, you did build that!" 
> - U.S. Rep. Paul Ryan 
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/8j4ach3
>

[FairfieldLife] 'The Pretender's~ Middle of the Road'..

2012-08-10 Thread Robert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hfxW_Z3-3E

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Witnessing the Witnessor'...

2012-08-10 Thread Robert

 The best source for this type of thing is 'Mooji' who has lot's of videos on 
the internet...
He follows the path of 'Self-Inquiry'...the path made by Ramama Maharishi; he 
studied with Papaji, who studied with Ramama.

This is just the exploration in meditation concerning 'Who is Experiencing'
Whether the meditator is experiencing the mantra or the sutra, the question 
remains, who is the 'Experiencer'...

And it is recognised that this experiencer, is the witnessing awarness, at the 
bottom of Maharishi's Bubble Diagram...

But TM'ers and Sidhas sometimes get so 'caught up' or 'over-shadowed' by the 
experience of the mantra or the sutra, that they never let go completely enough 
to just be in the 'Silence of Being' where they are in the 'Abstract Witness'...

Here is where all self-referral takes place, innocently, effortlessly...

Here is where Maharishi calls the 'Simplest State of Awareness'...


That we just stay with this witnessor this simplest form of awareness, this 
self-referral awareness, beyond the mind, beyond thoughts, beyond emotions, 
beyond even the intellect, because here is where the intellect just stops 
functioning, because it is not need here...

This back and forth of the intellect is not needed here, because this is being 
reflecting back on itself...

Some people in Mooji's group have no idea what he is talking about, befause 
many of them never practiced TM and that is where the value of TM is most 
clearly seen; in some of the inquires discussed in Mooji's Satasangs'...

Similarly, in the TM camp, many people take the mantra to be the final 
destination, or levitaton to be the final 'proof' and so miss the whole point 
of the teaching; and that is to transcend the mantra, transcend thought, 
transcend sutras...and when you have done this then the practice ends; whereby 
you continue a different practice then; which is not really a practice at all...
You just sit in Being...
And witness all that there is...

Jai Guru Dev

P.S. there is a further technique which I heard that Raja Ram gave to someone, 
and that is, during the time you are sitting in Beingness, and certain memories 
come to mind, just witness them from the 'Third Eye'where there is 
spiritual sight...and just witness it coming and going the pictures the 
memories and just let them all go, and this will purify any lingering 'karmas' 
having to do with the lessons which were attatched to these memories...

'See' them without attatchement, just as they go by...

Jai Guru Dev

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Witnessing the Witnessor'...

2012-08-09 Thread Robert

Not really...
 
Many times he didn't want to confuse people who weren't at the level where they 
could understand what he was saying...
Because people need to have an innocent first exerience, and don't know 
anything about witnessing yet, unless they were studying some other spiritual 
books like Ramana Maharishi...
But, people who have had years of experience with mantra meditation and sidhi 
practice could understand more broadly what witnessing means and what it 
ultimately evolves into...

But, to talk too much about witnessing to an early meditator he felt would be 
confusing, except to touch on the subject of 'No mantra, no thought' and the 
Concept of Cosmic Consciousness' talked about on the 3rd night of checking..

Robert

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> 
> Sounds kinda counter to everything I have ever heard MMY say...
> 
> 
> L
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert  wrote:
> >
> > When you can become aware of 'witnessing the witnessor' then you will be 
> > opening the door to Brahman Consciousness...
> > ï¿½
> > Herein lies the process of this witnessing expanding to include the whole 
> > cosmos...
> > ï¿½
> > Just like we are 'remembering the mantra' in TM...
> > And, just like we are 'remembering the flavor(feeling of sutra)Sutra...
> > Then, just like this, we are remembering the witnessing value of our 
> > awareness...
> > ï¿½
> > Whether we are practicing TM or Sutra Practice or Asana Practice or 
> > Pranayama Practice, we can remember to remember the witnessing value of our 
> > awareness
> > ï¿½
> > 'What we place our attention on grows',...
> > ï¿½
> > Therefore, as we continue the practice of placing our awareness on the 
> > witnessing aspect of our awarness, then the ability to maintain the 
> > witnessing aspect begins to take hold and grow in our geneal 
> > awarnesswhether we happen to be in deep sleep or dreaming or just 
> > waking up, we allow this witnessing value of our awareness to maintain 
> > itself fully...
> > ï¿½
> > We just need to 'Remember to remember'/ And because we are familiar with 
> > Dyhana Shakti, the inward stroke of meditation, we immediately feel the 
> > 'seeing within toward that witnessing aspect of our own awareness...
> > ï¿½
> > This witnessing value, begins to realize in time, that it can 'Return to 
> > Itself' over and over again and create from it's own nature of 
> > 'Beingness'...
> > ï¿½
> > Our 'Beingness' becomes more lively as we practice maintaining our 
> > awareness at the very source of thought within, that which is beyond 
> > thought, to the witnessing aspect of our own consciousness...
> > ï¿½
> > Jai Guru Dev
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] 'Witnessing the Witnessor'...

2012-08-08 Thread Robert

When you can become aware of 'witnessing the witnessor' then you will be 
opening the door to Brahman Consciousness...
 
Herein lies the process of this witnessing expanding to include the whole 
cosmos...
 
Just like we are 'remembering the mantra' in TM...
And, just like we are 'remembering the flavor(feeling of sutra)Sutra...
Then, just like this, we are remembering the witnessing value of our 
awareness...
 
Whether we are practicing TM or Sutra Practice or Asana Practice or Pranayama 
Practice, we can remember to remember the witnessing value of our awareness
 
'What we place our attention on grows',...
 
Therefore, as we continue the practice of placing our awareness on the 
witnessing aspect of our awarness, then the ability to maintain the witnessing 
aspect begins to take hold and grow in our geneal awarnesswhether we happen 
to be in deep sleep or dreaming or just waking up, we allow this witnessing 
value of our awareness to maintain itself fully...
 
We just need to 'Remember to remember'/ And because we are familiar with Dyhana 
Shakti, the inward stroke of meditation, we immediately feel the 'seeing within 
toward that witnessing aspect of our own awareness...
 
This witnessing value, begins to realize in time, that it can 'Return to 
Itself' over and over again and create from it's own nature of 'Beingness'...
 
Our 'Beingness' becomes more lively as we practice maintaining our awareness at 
the very source of thought within, that which is beyond thought, to the 
witnessing aspect of our own consciousness...
 
Jai Guru Dev

[FairfieldLife] 'Another Day by Paul McCartney'...

2012-08-07 Thread Robert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3nVqLfPBtw

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