[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy Fairfield

2011-11-06 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@ wrote: News from other Occupy Wall Street protests around Iowa

[FairfieldLife] Different Worlds (Re: Reality Distortion Field)

2011-11-06 Thread tartbrain
a paradox. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: For me the flow was getting lost (in my reading) so I added back some of the earlier conversation. If I got the order mixed up, and it changes intended meanings, please correct. donates prior exchanges from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steven Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: In his presence, reality is malleable. He can convince anyone of practically anything. It wears off when he's not around, but it makes it hard to have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote: Having said that, practicing Dzogchen atiyoga for a sufficient amount a time as to gain certainty in the direct, non-conventional experience of the natural state is the best way I know to gain recognition of it in others,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Jed McKenna, who's books I respect, makes mention of ten year olds in sixty year old bodies. That is what Haj, as I call him, reminds me of. Seeing pilgrimage to Mecca in all is good. Does that blossom to seeing Haj

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Jed McKenna, who's books I respect, makes mention of ten year olds in sixty year old bodies. That is what Haj, as I call him, reminds me of. Seeing pilgrimage to Mecca in all is good. Does that blossom to seeing Haj

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: Vaj belives that if a lie is repeated often enough it becomes a truth. Bless his Buddhist heart. That is a wonderful insight. We repeat the lie of separation over and over again, over so many years. One day we wake up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Jed McKenna, who's books I respect, makes mention of ten year olds

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Having said that, practicing Dzogchen atiyoga for a sufficient amount

[FairfieldLife] Re: DOC-DEBUT: David Wants to Fly | Link TV

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 11/05/2011 06:47 AM, Vaj wrote: On Nov 5, 2011, at 1:30 AM, seventhray1 wrote: Thanks for the link. Just saw it for the first time. Very well done. What I'd like to see is an extra which includes the entire

[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote: I have to say I really loved this post - very humorous :-). Yeah, CurtisDb and the Rajas in the anti-saint bed together. Does Curtis sing The

[FairfieldLife] Curtis and The Walking Blues -- Occupy the Domes!!

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: - Curtis does a wonderful version of Walkin' Blues (well, I am sure many many versions, but I heard the one from his CD or site.) Maybe as good, though very different style, to Paul Butterfield, which I am partial

[FairfieldLife] Re: DOC-DEBUT: David Wants to Fly | Link TV

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
and was one of the many parties to merge together to form the Bharatiya Jana Sangh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharatiya_Jana_Sangh [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Rajya_Parishad#cite_note-2 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Yes, I agree that taking full responsibility for my thoughts and actions is for me and me alone. Beyond that, we are all One - I agree with this completely, that the stuff that makes up a tartbrain or a whynotnow7

[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy Fairfield

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bill Coop williamgcoop@... wrote: News from other Occupy Wall Street protests around Iowa .DesMoinesRegister.com http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2011/10/29/news-from-other-occupy-wall-street-protests-around-iowa/ Fairfield: In lieu

[FairfieldLife] Absorbing Sins

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
Swami Swaroopanand quote Gurudeva [SBS]used to give upadesha (initiation) without any fees. He used to say 'If I accept any gift from the disciple (or fees), then his sins are transmitted to me.' From that angle, MMY is perhaps one of the most generous teachers to have walked the planet.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
are all One - I agree with this completely, that the stuff that makes up a tartbrain or a whynotnow7 or a Haj is fundamentally the same - far more the same than different. WNN: However there is also the paradox of investigating whatever differences we may find in this Oneness, while never

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reality Distortion Field: from Steve Jobs by Walter Isaacson

2011-11-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: It would be a category error if tartbrain intended it to be taken as a relevant response to what Nabby said, which appears to have

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
I thought there was no starting point or ending point. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: I agree, but that was tartbrain - I was using his quote as a starting point. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
as much, and because of the economy, the rentals haven't really been offsetting the annual assessments, so we are thinking about selling it.-that is, my sisters and I. I had many fun times there, especially in the summer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: You

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
Not said with any agenda, snarkiness or irony, rather a sincere question, but what do you, raunchy and judy obtain from these dialogues. I would answer for myself, but to be honest, after repeated attempts, I cannot get past the first paragraph of the half dozen or so exchanges I have attempted

[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba no_reply@ wrote: How about if some of us who qualify to go into the domes, join those on the outside in the parking lot as solidarity! Of course, writing this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
heat so DC is still worse than hell in August) then so be it. I'll send you some postcards (written on asbestos) to entertain you from time to time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Not said with any agenda, snarkiness or irony

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
virgins. It is guaranteed to make true believers out of every last one of them.) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Not said with any agenda, snarkiness or irony, rather a sincere question, but what do you, raunchy and judy obtain from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Why do I get the feeling that Maharishi would find this initiative of meditating outside the Dome vey good ? As we have touched

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vickers machine gun crew with gas masks

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: WWI I'd hate to be in that war! http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/43262.jpg Wake up. We no longer are. Don't you remember that big flash of light (no not the one after the tunnel, the one from that big stick thing on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vickers machine gun crew with gas masks

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: WWI I'd hate to be in that war! http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/5/43262.jpg Wake up. We no longer are. Don't you remember that big flash of light (no not the one after the tunnel, the one from that big stick thing on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 3, 2011, at 8:32 AM, curtisdeltablues wrote: alf an hour until morning meditation. Be there. Is a growing movement. Meditating out in the Dome parking lot is real nice in group. It's comfortable

[FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!

2011-11-03 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: Secondly, I'm an old devotee of SBS Guru Dev and he certainly said to go and be with the saints. I'm with him in this. The TM-Rajas are clearly wrong and ignorant about seeing saints. The Rajas are in the way of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Daughter of Ravi Shankar

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
Maybe she and Nora can perform a duet sometime. Sultry sitar. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote: thanks for posting and sharing this Gara , a rare raga ,an independent raga, as well as an additive fragrance to other ragas; and that too, in two variants, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened and FFL, continued

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: To some extent, I've been less charmed by the latest two episodes of HBO's Enlightened while watching it, but in retrospect I've realized that Mike White and Laura Dern *are* still dealing with material that is relevant to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
in this state, all blind to it and misguidedly throwing all of your pain on Maharishi. After all, Lenz was the mentally ill one, the crazy one, the one you can't grow past even now. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: This is not a counter

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened and FFL, continued

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: and especially don't want it used outside the intended context to make me look like a dick. That is totally over the top. I mean Curtis, you seem like a nice guy, maybe even an awesome guy, but for Barry to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened and FFL, continued

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: Robin, Well this is all getting a bit Jr High but I am happy to explain further once you read the full line on my post to Barry. In the beginning of our conversations I just assumed you were gay. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Enlightened and FFL, continued

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: and especially don't want it used outside

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Vaj wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Interesting article on Steve Jobs dietary quirks (not too unlike some quirks people have here) and comments by nutritional

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs Last Words

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Vaj wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Interesting article on Steve Jobs dietary quirks (not too unlike some quirks people have here) and comments by nutritional

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 11/02/2011 05:57 PM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshinesalsunshine@ wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Vaj wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:08 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Interesting

[FairfieldLife] Re: ...no evidence for consciousness exists in the physical world

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Yifu yifuxero@... wrote: Sam Harris on the Mystery of Consciousness I and II from http://www.samharris.org Harris distinguishes between underlying consciousness and the things entities are conscious of, but seems to skirt around making definitive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 7:57 PM, tartbrain wrote: The only good news in this case is now I may eventually get Flash on my iPadÂ… Really? So then they should work with, say, Amazon instant videos? That would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs diet quirks

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 11/02/2011 06:49 PM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@ wrote: On 11/02/2011 05:57 PM, tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshinesalsunshine@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Blues

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: In other words, heads I win, tails you lose. You got it! You are definitely large corporate CEO material (or congressman). That seems to be how you frame interactions. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-11-02 Thread tartbrain
You lived in Snowmass / Aspen? What years? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote: Did my SCI at Cobb Mountain the summer or fall of '74. I remember sticking my thumb out at the intersection of Brush Creek Rd. and Hwy. 82 in Snowmass Colorado and

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-11-01 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: You've got the timing wrong. I remember the first residence course I was on which had a governess, one of the first back from Switzerland. For what its worth, some recollections of the history as I saw it. Depends

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy

2011-10-21 Thread tartbrain
This is not a counter rebuttal, simply another view, a point for further discussion and examination. The tipping point was when a portion (I think it was 11.73% but others may quibble on this)of the full time community -- and some ardent part-timers, kept clung to the notion that M. and his

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mystery of Consciousness

2011-10-21 Thread tartbrain
One, a person, generally only knows consciousness when it is shining on something tangible. We are aware of the tree, but not, generally aware of the light of Awareness that enables us to be aware of the tree. Like the sun, we often are not aware of the sun at all, only the objects that it

[FairfieldLife] Collective consciousness (was Re: The Day That TMers Became Officially Crazy)

2011-10-21 Thread tartbrain
Collective Consciousness is Consciousness. Consciousness can't be collected. (Please sir, we are collecting for the United Fund of Consciousness, can you please donate a piece of Consciousness to our collection?) But 1000 mirrors reflect the sun that knows itself and is everywhere better than

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mystery of Consciousness

2011-10-21 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Consciousness is Consciousness. It does not develop. It does not become. Bravo. This is the first intelligent thing said here in weeks

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah in the dome tonight

2011-10-20 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:58 PM, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Apparently Oprah was in the dome in Fairfield tonight, meditating with the ladies. Not just that, but campus as abuzz (at least those who meditate)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah in the dome tonight

2011-10-20 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: Apparently Oprah was in the dome in Fairfield tonight, meditating with the ladies. Why wasn't she denied a dome pass for seeing other teachers such as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah in the dome tonight

2011-10-20 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: On Oct 20, 2011, at 8:25 AM, feste37 wrote: Oprah spent 7 hours in Fairfield, apparently. Landed at Fairfield airport at ll and stayed until

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah in the dome tonight

2011-10-20 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 10:58 PM, feste37 feste37@... wrote: Apparently Oprah was in the dome in Fairfield tonight, meditating with the ladies. Not just that, but campus as abuzz (at least those who meditate)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah in the dome tonight

2011-10-20 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: The thing I don't get is who expects the TMO and the Rajas and Maharishi to be perfect? That every lecture will be riveting, that every course

[FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah in the dome tonight

2011-10-20 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: The thing I don't get is who expects the TMO and the Rajas and Maharishi to be perfect? That every lecture will be riveting, that every course

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Mystery of Consciousness

2011-10-20 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote: The paradox of consciousness is that it takes a highly developed sentient being to understand that it is the basis of creation of the universe. As such, this same being can understand that consciousness is different in various

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-19 Thread tartbrain
Some thoughts, not arguments or siding with this or that view. More for my own insights and playful viewing of things. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: Dear Barry Wright, If you can ever get Curtis to admit that he is, in relationship to myself, acting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-19 Thread tartbrain
as interesting discussion, perhaps we can extend the dialogue. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin Some thoughts, not arguments or siding

[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation between Curtis Robin

2011-10-19 Thread tartbrain
Ah yes, Sal you are always holding up the deep silent value of life. Bravo. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Oct 19, 2011, at 9:57 PM, tartbrain wrote: Your comments, and I admit that I have not fully digested them, provide stimuli for more

[FairfieldLife] Kumbh Mela

2011-10-18 Thread tartbrain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUDPwzfdE78feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRp_Ealqu6w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9sTLavgqB8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVUX0OG9tF0feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1v=qF_CTs01sfY

[FairfieldLife] Re: A History Lesson

2011-10-18 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: Rather than perpetuating fantasies posing as truth, try Nicholas Goodrick-Clark 's Minor correction, its: Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke The Occult Roots of Nazism. He is Professor of Western Esotericism and Director of

[FairfieldLife] Re: A History Lesson

2011-10-18 Thread tartbrain
Cults, Esoteric Nazism, and the Politics of Identity, ...2002 - ISBN 0-8147-3155-4 . --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Rather than perpetuating fantasies posing as truth, try Nicholas

[FairfieldLife] Re: MZ/RC - You don't know the references

2011-10-17 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote: For my part, it is only because of Thomas Merton, Brother David Steindl-Rast, Fr. Basil Pennington and Abbott Thomas Keating that I even acknowledge that there is something still alive in Catholicism. If of value, here is

[FairfieldLife] Re: You don't believe what we believe, therefore you hate it...and us

2011-10-17 Thread tartbrain
got. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@ wrote: Thanks for the Nisargadatta quote, Tartbrain. I'm not the hero-worshipped I once was, but Nisargadatta still gets my attention. I have

[FairfieldLife] Anandamayi Ma Pictures and Videos

2011-10-17 Thread tartbrain
For those whom may enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5p1AzLAU4feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj7oKmd8oLQfeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWv4ktbb33Ufeature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M95GXK5VRa4feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: You don't believe what we believe, therefore you hate it...and us

2011-10-16 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: It's just part and parcel of a mental path: mental causes create mental effects. Given what we know about neuroplasticity today, I'd have to

[FairfieldLife] Re: You don't believe what we believe, therefore you hate it...and us

2011-10-16 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: What fires together, wires together is one of my favorite sutras. Fantastic! The educational implications are vast. Perhaps too far of

[FairfieldLife] Re: You don't believe what we believe, therefore you hate it...and us

2011-10-16 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, marekreavis reavismarek@... wrote: Thanks for the Nisargadatta quote, Tartbrain. I'm not the hero-worshipped I once was, but Nisargadatta still gets my attention. I have read little of him, but picked up and read some of I AM THAT yesterday. I like

[FairfieldLife] Attention is Consciousness (was you don't believe what we believe ..)

2011-10-16 Thread tartbrain
your meaning. However, no heroes have ever worshipped me.) You never know. N. is consciousness. Consciousness probably has intense love for you, as consciousness (and maybe even the surfer lawyer you). *** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movie review: Cafe

2011-10-15 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: This is an Indie flick that I watched entirely because of its name. I sit and write in cafes, and so I figured it would appeal to me. It's a writer/director's first effort, set entirely in a cafe in Philadelphia, and stars

[FairfieldLife] Re: You don't believe what we believe, therefore you hate it...and us

2011-10-15 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: I don't see Angels, nor I do believe in them - but certainly can see the possibility that a certain refined nervous system can see the angles and other celestial being around them. However there is no salvation outside

[FairfieldLife] Re: Greetings from Occupied Wall Street

2011-10-06 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seekliberation seekliberation@... wrote: Keep in mind as you complain about how horrible and difficult your life is, a garbage man or a pizza delivery man in today's world lives a more luxurious life with more entertainment than the King of England or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Steve Jobs RIP

2011-10-06 Thread tartbrain
A nice illustration of the equivalence of attention. Wealth, power, fame, connections and all are all limited by attention. We are attentive to that which has the greatest value to us at the moment (well, given, and within the context of, the complex chain and logic of deferred gratification.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: course presentation, Ladies Magic Flyers in the Dome

2011-10-06 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Dick Mays dickmays@... wrote: From: Dome Announcements owner-dome-l@... Lady Yogic Flyers Glancing out of the corner of my eye, I for a split second thought it said Lady Magic Flyers. I think I heard that lecture. The last three letters are the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Writing As Spiritual Practice

2011-07-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: A selfish act seems to imply will. The decision to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Acceptance of what is accounts for some of this, though I have noticed too that my deepest desires always get fulfilled, You don't appear to desire very much globally and socially. That aside, some observations, and

[FairfieldLife] Summa Five Attributes

2011-07-05 Thread tartbrain
I didn't read all of the Summa thread, so apologies if this is repetitious. The thread did prompt me to read some on Aquinas. I like his 5 divine qualities -- derived by a neti neti process. It is not a proof of God, hardly so. However, it is a nice standard to continue a neti neti type

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Hi, responses below: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Acceptance of what is accounts for some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-05 Thread tartbrain
RG: Yes; I have found that fulfillment of desires occurs as I don't wholeheartedly identify with them, but just pay simple, unconditionally loving attention to them -- i.e., accepting them as they truly are, as divine seeds-of-growth, TB: Your post appear to provide some insight to my query

[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-05 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... wrote: -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I was thinking that they were showing a lack of

[FairfieldLife] Re: 5 Examples of Americans Thinking Foreign People Are Magic

2011-06-19 Thread tartbrain
While I enjoy the humor, this seems off base to me. Its not that something is foreign. Else why not the rush for Ugandan or Turkestanian wisdom? To me a certain humbleness regarding modern western knowledge and epistimological methods is in order. While these are powerful, they have not

[FairfieldLife] Confirmation Bias -- Discomfort with New Information and Different Views

2011-06-18 Thread tartbrain
* added for emphais By: Christopher C. Duke, PhD Even if you are not a psychologist, you have probably heard of confirmation bias. Whether you have heard of it or not, you have most certainly seen it and engaged in it. Confirmation bias is the very human tendency to seek out information that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Confirmation bias [was:Speculating about CC instead of doing the work]

2011-06-18 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Using logic and reason to confirm an inner feeling. Confirmation bias (CB) may

[FairfieldLife] Re: Confirmation bias [was:Speculating about CC instead of doing the work]

2011-06-18 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Funny that the anti-Maharishi, anti-TMO,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Two Approaches To Spiritual Teaching - Theory vs. Practice

2011-06-16 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: As it turned out, at the height of this experience he was giving advanced techniques and I got to go up and sit by his side, literally

[FairfieldLife] When It Started to Get Crazy

2011-06-16 Thread tartbrain
Who of us had not written that as our assessment of the Movement at this or that time, for this or that project. And there are many ways of looking at the same situation. What was crazy for one person was not crazy for another. Part of this may be due to different perspectives on what was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Two Approaches To Spiritual Teaching - Theory vs. Practice

2011-06-16 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: when people didn't respond to his announced enlight- enmentitudeness the way he wanted them to. As elaborated in an adjacent post, the 10,000 QA at the mic between MMY and those on the course were often about experiences.

[FairfieldLife] Re: When It Started to Get Crazy

2011-06-16 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@... wrote: On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:52 AM, tartbrain wrote: Who of us had not written that as our assessment of the Movement at this or that time, for this or that project. I give up~~who. Why do I almost constantly get

[FairfieldLife] Re: Two Approaches To Spiritual Teaching - Theory vs. Practice

2011-06-16 Thread tartbrain
it is presented to project into it whatever meaning they wish to. In other words, each of these statements can be seen as fodder for confirmation bias, and not personal at all. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: My experience and observation was that MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: When It Started to Get Crazy

2011-06-16 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tartbrain Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:53 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] When It Started to Get Crazy

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your Badge

2011-06-16 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jpgillam Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2011 9:59 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint - Lose Your

[FairfieldLife] Re: A few Good Books

2011-06-16 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote: Any good reading suggestions for the summer - fiction or non? I recently

[FairfieldLife] Tenacious vs Take It Easy, Take it As It Comes (was Speculating )

2011-06-10 Thread tartbrain
While I am not arguing, and certainly I have no fix on the definitive word on anything, I view it (at times) from a different angle than you. You present a sort of Horatio Alger spiritual unfoldment bio and can do gumption and earnestness. I can relate. My first 12 years of TM, 17-29 or so,

[FairfieldLife] Speculating about CC instead of doing the work[was Re:Two...questions from Turq]

2011-06-10 Thread tartbrain
https://picasaweb.google.com/gardenofmonet/Durer#slideshow/5258539594497387762 Here is Quicksilver's answer. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: I agree. Exercising his body would do

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cult 101: Reinforce the Manufactured Need

2011-06-10 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote: Bozotronic Barry is here to enlighten us that the goal of self realization is a manufactured addiction. First, do you see self-realization as a goal? I make a large distinction between goals an outcomes. The ball rolls

[FairfieldLife] The Nabs Effect

2011-06-10 Thread tartbrain
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2076783,00.html Liberation is unfolding everywhere.

[FairfieldLife] Re: God Caught Backing Multiple GOP Candidates for President

2011-06-10 Thread tartbrain
God told me to definitely not run. But I said, Lord, how could I run when its all Stillness? He said No, I meant stop running off at the mouth. I said I will try. He laughed and said, Try? Try!? Ha, as if you ever could and ever will. Let My Will be Done -- just sit back and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cult 101: Reinforce the Manufactured Need

2011-06-10 Thread tartbrain
. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote: Bozotronic Barry is here to enlighten us that the goal of self realization is a manufactured addiction. First, do you see self-realization as a goal? I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will / Sam Harris Once Again

2011-06-09 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Sam Harris has posted a second follow up to his post on his own blog about free will (the link to which tartbrain originally posted

[FairfieldLife] Re: Free Will / Sam Harris Once Again

2011-06-09 Thread tartbrain
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: Sam Harris has posted a second follow up to his post on his

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