Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Nabby, I've only seen Elephant Man and The Straight Story. Elephant Man is one of the most touching movies I've ever seen. The Straight Story is a wonderful combination of being sweet and quirky and down to earth. Nonetheless I'm not really drawn to his other works though I admire his creative vision and what shall we call it, boldness. From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 4:16 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Lynch is a strange individual who would be strange with or without TM - his > assertion that TM unleashed his creativity to make the films and tv he has > made makes me think TM is even less of a good thing than I used to think it > was given the fact that many of the films he makes are about abuse of women > and grisly twisted crap. One must be a really sick and twisted soul to read this into the films of David Lynch. As others have suggested, you seriously need professional help. Long before I knew he did TM it was obvious to me that his films are about the human struggle for dignity in a mundane, violent and often depressing world. Often set in extreme situations his films capture in a very moving way the stuggle of individuals towards light, love and goodness. "There is an invisible force that pulls men towards God" - Maharishi Along with a few other masters of cinema Lynch visualize this process in a beautiful and touching way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Maybe he doesn't exactly say that, so instead let me make the issue personal: Before I started doing TM regularly in 1969, I smoked 20 cigarettes a day. In January 1970 I gave up smoking and never went back to it. I credit TM for this. I just didn't need the fags any more. OK, so it wasn't heroin, but an addictive drug nonetheless. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > I don't doubt that he finds TM beneficial in making maintaining sobriety > nicer. But this is not how he kicked, that was years before. I was objecting > to the idea that he owes his sobriety to TM. > > This is a pervasive problem with TM marketing hype IMO. I like my TM and > think it is a nice resource. But it doesn't get people off smack, or more > precisely, it didn't get Russel off it. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > > > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to > > > > turn his life around.> > > > > > > He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM? > > > > I don't know when he started TM, but this is what he says (from a 2011 New > > York Times article about what he owes to it). It's a pretty strong > > endorsement: > > > > > > RUSSELL BRAND, the lanky British comedian, has made a career of his > > outrageous antics. While a host at MTV UK, he went to work dressed up as > > Osama bin Laden. At the network's annual music awards, he likened Britney > > Spears to a "female Christ." And he was fired from the BBC after leaving > > raunchy messages on the voice mail of a 78-year-old actor, a comic bit that > > even his country's then-prime minister felt compelled to denounce. > > It is jarring then, to say the least, to hear Mr. Brand, 35, speaking > > passionately and sincerely about the emotional solace he has found in > > Transcendental Meditation, or TM. Yet there he was in December, onstage at > > the Metropolitan Museum of Art (as his new wife, the pop singer Katy Perry, > > waited backstage), describing how TM has helped him repair his psychic > > wounds. > > "Transcendental Meditation has been incredibly valuable to me both in my > > recovery as a drug addict and in my personal life, my marriage, my > > professional life," Mr. Brand said of the technique that prescribes two 15- > > to 20-minute sessions a day of silently repeating a one-to-three syllable > > mantra, so that practitioners can access a state of what is known as > > transcendental consciousness. "I literally had an idea drop into my brain > > the other day while I was meditating which I think is worth millions of > > dollars." > > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/fashion/20TM.html?_r=0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a > > > brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one > > > from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with > > > > > Howard Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth > > > > > look at Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we > > > > > want our kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a > > > > > resounding "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise > > > > > decision! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > > > > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > > > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > > > > to at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > > > __*___ > > > > > > > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
There was no "bullshit" to make excuses for. You are not even plausible in terms of your own believing in the arguments that you try to make, they are so hysterical, so much empty rhetoric that you either don't believe in them yourself or you have such a detachment from truthfulness that you do not even have a concern for what is true or not but rather only what might be damaging to claim. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > Well, I really couldn't let this one pass without comment. > > As Barry has stated a time or two, it never ceases to amaze how true > believers will make excuses for the guru's bullshit no matter what they do. > And as I have said it is because somewhere in the recesses of their minds > they identify themselves with the enlightened state via their association > with the guru and their fabulous teachings - in other words, if they accept > that the guru is a flawed human being and even a criminal then their own self > identity begins to crumble. > > I personally find it to be the height of arrogance to believe that Marshy was > head and shoulders above any and all other spiritual teachers, including the > ones from India. > > The flaw in your premise srijau, is that you believe that Marshy was > enlightened - can't blame Marshy for that since to my knowledge he never said > he was, blame that on everyone's gullibility and willingness to assume facts > not in evidence. > > And to paraphrase your last statement, it should be apparent to any > intelligent person who can think clearly that what Marshy gave the world was > a good old fashioned screwing - I will give him this, he was the most > successful con artist of the 20th century. > > And any intelligent person should be able to see from the governmental > dysfunction that exists world wide and the carnage and destruction that > exists worldwide militarily, economically and pollution-wise that TM and > especially yogic flying have not done a damn thing to make the world better, > unless you want to fall back on the ridiculous argument of "Awww, no tellin' > how bad off we would be if we hadn't had some TMSP all these years!" > > > ________________ > From: "srijau@..." > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:52 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > Â > This is several types of nonsense. > A Maharishi is not a celibate person. > The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he > ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. > Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same > reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly "I have > dropped the Bal Brahmarchari" title because he never wanted to make it about > himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message > is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating > that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all > Mankind. > You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he > appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way > taken from somewhere else. > Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. > No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious > day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and > has kept themselves informed. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" wrote: > > > > > > > > Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much > > of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, > > Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. > > > > So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like > > Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice > > celibacy. > > > > If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of > > consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. > > > > > > --- doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a > > > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the > > > two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! > > > > > > --- Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster childre
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
I don't doubt that he finds TM beneficial in making maintaining sobriety nicer. But this is not how he kicked, that was years before. I was objecting to the idea that he owes his sobriety to TM. This is a pervasive problem with TM marketing hype IMO. I like my TM and think it is a nice resource. But it doesn't get people off smack, or more precisely, it didn't get Russel off it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn > > > his life around.> > > > > He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM? > > I don't know when he started TM, but this is what he says (from a 2011 New > York Times article about what he owes to it). It's a pretty strong > endorsement: > > > RUSSELL BRAND, the lanky British comedian, has made a career of his > outrageous antics. While a host at MTV UK, he went to work dressed up as > Osama bin Laden. At the network's annual music awards, he likened Britney > Spears to a "female Christ." And he was fired from the BBC after leaving > raunchy messages on the voice mail of a 78-year-old actor, a comic bit that > even his country's then-prime minister felt compelled to denounce. > It is jarring then, to say the least, to hear Mr. Brand, 35, speaking > passionately and sincerely about the emotional solace he has found in > Transcendental Meditation, or TM. Yet there he was in December, onstage at > the Metropolitan Museum of Art (as his new wife, the pop singer Katy Perry, > waited backstage), describing how TM has helped him repair his psychic > wounds. > "Transcendental Meditation has been incredibly valuable to me both in my > recovery as a drug addict and in my personal life, my marriage, my > professional life," Mr. Brand said of the technique that prescribes two 15- > to 20-minute sessions a day of silently repeating a one-to-three syllable > mantra, so that practitioners can access a state of what is known as > transcendental consciousness. "I literally had an idea drop into my brain the > other day while I was meditating which I think is worth millions of dollars." > > http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/fashion/20TM.html?_r=0 > > > > > > > > > Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a > > brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one > > from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at > > > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our > > > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding > > > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > > > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > > > to at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > __*___ > > > > > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn > > his life around.> > > He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM? I don't know when he started TM, but this is what he says (from a 2011 New York Times article about what he owes to it). It's a pretty strong endorsement: RUSSELL BRAND, the lanky British comedian, has made a career of his outrageous antics. While a host at MTV UK, he went to work dressed up as Osama bin Laden. At the network's annual music awards, he likened Britney Spears to a "female Christ." And he was fired from the BBC after leaving raunchy messages on the voice mail of a 78-year-old actor, a comic bit that even his country's then-prime minister felt compelled to denounce. It is jarring then, to say the least, to hear Mr. Brand, 35, speaking passionately and sincerely about the emotional solace he has found in Transcendental Meditation, or TM. Yet there he was in December, onstage at the Metropolitan Museum of Art (as his new wife, the pop singer Katy Perry, waited backstage), describing how TM has helped him repair his psychic wounds. "Transcendental Meditation has been incredibly valuable to me both in my recovery as a drug addict and in my personal life, my marriage, my professional life," Mr. Brand said of the technique that prescribes two 15- to 20-minute sessions a day of silently repeating a one-to-three syllable mantra, so that practitioners can access a state of what is known as transcendental consciousness. "I literally had an idea drop into my brain the other day while I was meditating which I think is worth millions of dollars." http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/20/fashion/20TM.html?_r=0 > > > > Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, > Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from > somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at > > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our > > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding > > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > > to at-risk Youth > > > > > > __*___ > > > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Well said! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@... wrote: > > This is several types of nonsense. > A Maharishi is not a celibate person. > The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he > ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. > Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same > reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly "I have > dropped the Bal Brahmarchari" title because he never wanted to make it about > himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message > is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating > that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all > Mankind. > You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he > appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way > taken from somewhere else. > Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. > No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious > day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and > has kept themselves informed. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" wrote: > > > > > > > > Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much > > of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, > > Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. > > > > So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like > > Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice > > celibacy. > > > > If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of > > consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. > > > > > > --- doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a > > > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the > > > two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! > > > > > > --- Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at > > > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our > > > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding > > > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > > > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > > > to at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > __*___ > > > > > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > > > > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Whatever happened with good ole Girish, anyway? L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > And Girish is probably already looking at plans for his new palace. ;-) >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Lynch is a strange individual who would be strange with or without TM - his > assertion that TM unleashed his creativity to make the films and tv he has > made makes me think TM is even less of a good thing than I used to think it > was given the fact that many of the films he makes are about abuse of women > and grisly twisted crap. One must be a really sick and twisted soul to read this into the films of David Lynch. As others have suggested, you seriously need professional help. Long before I knew he did TM it was obvious to me that his films are about the human struggle for dignity in a mundane, violent and often depressing world. Often set in extreme situations his films capture in a very moving way the stuggle of individuals towards light, love and goodness. "There is an invisible force that pulls men towards God" - Maharishi Along with a few other masters of cinema Lynch visualize this process in a beautiful and touching way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his > life around.> He claims to be drug free and sober for 10 years, when did he start TM? Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, > > Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn > > out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they > > would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring > > TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > Â > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > to at-risk Youth > > > > __*___ > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know > Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM? George Harrison, who only did TM for about a year, claimed chanting the Krishna mantra was the best thing he ever did and helped him achieve the highest spiritual heights he ever experienced, and even saved his life in preventing a plane crash (bit dubious about the last bit personally). Lennon, Jagger and most of the other class of '68 also took up Krishna chanting after TM, with varying degrees of hysteria. > From: feste37 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > Â > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his > life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? > Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease > one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, > > Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn > > out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they > > would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring > > TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > to at-risk Youth > > > > __*___ > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>
> Wrong again in your attack on me. I do not attack every TM person I can think
> of - I don't the TM people here on this FFL, nor Oprah, nor Ellen D, nor
> Jerry Seinfeld nor Clint Eastwood - so your assertion is incorrect.
>
> Lynch is a strange individual who would be strange with or without TM - his
> assertion that TM unleashed his creativity to make the films and tv he has
> made makes me think TM is even less of a good thing than I used to think it
> was given the fact that many of the films he makes are about abuse of women
> and grisly twisted crap.
>
> Stern - all you have to do is listen to his sexist racist crap to know what
> he spews over the airwaves, but I know you have to like their junk cuz they
> are TM people and we know that whatever TM people do is always good - not
> sure how that works out with people like the TM faculty member who was
> recently fired for trading sex for grades and money - but I am sure those
> gals who were on their backs knew something good was happening!
The only person on this forum who ever says this ("whatever TM people do is
always good") is you. So this is all a straw-man argument on your part.
>
>
>
>
> From: feste37
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:20 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to
> Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
>
>
>
> Â
> They're fine. What's wrong with them? What's with your desire to attack every
> TM person you can think of? Why do you have this obsession with condemning
> other people's behavior? What do you even know about their behavior?
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> >
> > How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know
> > Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM?
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________
> > From: feste37
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to
> > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> >
> >
> >
> > ÃÂ
> > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn
> > his life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does
> > himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent
> > or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
> > >
> > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard
> > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at
> > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our
> > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding
> > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: merlin
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to
> > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ÃâÃÂ
> > >
> > > David Lynch and Russell Brand
> > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM)
> > > to at-risk Youth
> > >
> > > __*___
> > >
> > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/
> > >
> >
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Wrong again in your attack on me. I do not attack every TM person I can think of - I don't the TM people here on this FFL, nor Oprah, nor Ellen D, nor Jerry Seinfeld nor Clint Eastwood - so your assertion is incorrect. Lynch is a strange individual who would be strange with or without TM - his assertion that TM unleashed his creativity to make the films and tv he has made makes me think TM is even less of a good thing than I used to think it was given the fact that many of the films he makes are about abuse of women and grisly twisted crap. Stern - all you have to do is listen to his sexist racist crap to know what he spews over the airwaves, but I know you have to like their junk cuz they are TM people and we know that whatever TM people do is always good - not sure how that works out with people like the TM faculty member who was recently fired for trading sex for grades and money - but I am sure those gals who were on their backs knew something good was happening! From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 3:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth They're fine. What's wrong with them? What's with your desire to attack every TM person you can think of? Why do you have this obsession with condemning other people's behavior? What do you even know about their behavior? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know > Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM? > > > > > From: feste37 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > >  > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his > life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? > Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease > one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, > > Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn > > out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they > > would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring > > TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > >  > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > to at-risk Youth > > > > __*___ > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
They're fine. What's wrong with them? What's with your desire to attack every TM person you can think of? Why do you have this obsession with condemning other people's behavior? What do you even know about their behavior? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know > Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM? > > > > > From: feste37 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > Â > Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his > life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? > Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease > one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, > > Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn > > out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they > > would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring > > TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > to at-risk Youth > > > > __*___ > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
How bout Lynch and Stern? Why not sing their praises? And how do you know Brand doesn't get as much out of his Hare Krishna chants as he does TM? From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:21 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern > - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, > and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn out like > these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they would then > take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > From: merlin > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring > TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > Â > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > to at-risk Youth > > __*___ > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Well, I really couldn't let this one pass without comment. As Barry has stated a time or two, it never ceases to amaze how true believers will make excuses for the guru's bullshit no matter what they do. And as I have said it is because somewhere in the recesses of their minds they identify themselves with the enlightened state via their association with the guru and their fabulous teachings - in other words, if they accept that the guru is a flawed human being and even a criminal then their own self identity begins to crumble. I personally find it to be the height of arrogance to believe that Marshy was head and shoulders above any and all other spiritual teachers, including the ones from India. The flaw in your premise srijau, is that you believe that Marshy was enlightened - can't blame Marshy for that since to my knowledge he never said he was, blame that on everyone's gullibility and willingness to assume facts not in evidence. And to paraphrase your last statement, it should be apparent to any intelligent person who can think clearly that what Marshy gave the world was a good old fashioned screwing - I will give him this, he was the most successful con artist of the 20th century. And any intelligent person should be able to see from the governmental dysfunction that exists world wide and the carnage and destruction that exists worldwide militarily, economically and pollution-wise that TM and especially yogic flying have not done a damn thing to make the world better, unless you want to fall back on the ridiculous argument of "Awww, no tellin' how bad off we would be if we hadn't had some TMSP all these years!" From: "sri...@ymail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth This is several types of nonsense. A Maharishi is not a celibate person. The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly "I have dropped the Bal Brahmarchari" title because he never wanted to make it about himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all Mankind. You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way taken from somewhere else. Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and has kept themselves informed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" wrote: > > > > Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much > of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, > Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. > > So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like > Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice > celibacy. > > If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of > consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. > > > --- doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a > > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two > > timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! > > > > --- Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at > > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our > > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding > > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > > to at-risk Youth > > > > > > __*___ > > > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Russell Brand was a heroin addict who credits TM with helping him to turn his life around. Do you think you know more about his life than he does himself? Get a brain, Michael. If you don't have one of your own, then rent or lease one from somewhere. The need is very urgent, I assure you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern > - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, > and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn out like > these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they would then > take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > From: merlin > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring > TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > Â > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > to at-risk Youth > > __*___ > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, srijau@... wrote: > > This is several types of nonsense. Thanks for the warning I shall read no further. We should all be so helpful. > A Maharishi is not a celibate person. > The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he > ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. > Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same > reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly "I have > dropped the Bal Brahmarchari" title because he never wanted to make it about > himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message > is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating > that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all > Mankind. > You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he > appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way > taken from somewhere else. > Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. > No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious > day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and > has kept themselves informed.
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
This is several types of nonsense. A Maharishi is not a celibate person. The only times Maharishi stated he was celibate was when he was, before he ever had sex and very late in life when it was rather inconceivable. Otherewise being a fully enlightened person he does not have any of the same reasons to be celibate as an ordinary person. He did not say publicly "I have dropped the Bal Brahmarchari" title because he never wanted to make it about himself due to his characteristic extreme modesty. Maharishi's core message is very consistent from his earliest writings to his last, always stating that truly life is bliss and that he was creating Heaven on Earth for all Mankind. You cannot find quotes from the persons you mention or from anyone before he appeared that support your claim that his teaching is in any substantive way taken from somewhere else. Really Maharishi is unique not only in his message but in world history. No-one has ever done so much for the whole world, as is becoming more obvious day by day to any intelligent person who has read the scientific research and has kept themselves informed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" wrote: > > > > Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much > of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, > Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. > > So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like > Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice > celibacy. > > If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of > consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. > > > --- doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a > > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two > > timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! > > > > --- Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at > > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our > > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding > > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > > to at-risk Youth > > > > > > __*___ > > > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Personally? I don't know why, or if, anyone would want to do so-called yogic flying, by itself. Certainly not an efficient mode of transportation, is it? Also, I remember one of the first reports I heard about it, in 1978, prior to practicing the TMSP myself, was that crows nearby were laughing at those practicing the so-called yogic flying. We celebrated my son-in-law's birthday yesterday, and the icing would not have been nearly as good, without the cake. Same thing with the commonly called flying technique. It gets a lot of attention, but is really the last in a series of integral steps, designed to do a lot of other stuff, too. I have not practiced the TMSP since 1995 or so, though may do again at some point. As for the theory of relativity countering any levitation that may occur during the so-called yogic flying technique, who knows? I don't think anyone knows the answer to that, assuming levitation does take place. Not that big a deal to me, one way or the other. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a > > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two > > timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! > > Curiously, if you believe that yogic flying is a type of > levitation you *have* denied his theory of relativity. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two > timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! Curiously, if you believe that yogic flying is a type of levitation you *have* denied his theory of relativity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Polly wanna cracker? Jai Guru Dev -- --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" wrote: > > > > Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much > of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, > Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. > > So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like > Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice > celibacy. > > If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of > consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. > > > --- doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a > > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two > > timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! > > > > --- Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at > > > Stern, Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our > > > kids to turn out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding > > > "NO!" and they would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to > > > Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > > to at-risk Youth > > > > > > __*___ > > > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > > > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
Now listen Jimmy boy, Maharishi himself was a parrot. Much of what he taught was rehashed from Brahmananda saraswati, Yogananda, Lakshman Joo and so on. So, don't compare him with a pathbreaking pioneer like Einstein. Besides, Einstein had no obligation to practice celibacy. If the "Foremost scientist of our times in the technology of consciousness" fails to walk the talk, something is amiss. --- doctordumbass@... wrote: > > I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a > consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two > timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! > > --- Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard > > Stern - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, > > Brand, and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn > > out like these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they > > would then take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > > > > > > From: merlin > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring > > TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > > > > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > > to at-risk Youth > > > > __*___ > > > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ > > >
[FairfieldLife] Re: David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring TM to 1M at-risk Youth
I know. Albert Einstein had a mistress, even though he was married. As a consequence, I deny his entire theory of relativity. That'll teach the two timing bastard. Viva La Revolucion, Michael! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > David and Russel are the perfect TM poster children, along with Howard Stern > - if the parents and guardians of these at-risk youth look at Stern, Brand, > and especially Lynch and ask themselves "Do we want our kids to turn out like > these guys?" and the answer would be a resounding "NO!" and they would then > take a pass on TM - wise decision! > > > > > From: merlin > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 6:38 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] David Lynch and Russell Brand Join Forces to Bring > TM to 1M at-risk Youth > > > > Â > > David Lynch and Russell Brand > Join Forces to Bring TRANSCENDENTAL MEDITATION (TM) > to at-risk Youth > > __*___ > > http://www.tm.org/blog/video/david-lynch-and-russell-brand-join-forces/ >
