---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Ann, it's an interesting topic: what constitutes initiating violence against
another? With this wording I'm excluding violence that a person uses to defend
themselves or their loved ones. So again, what constitutes initiating violence
or harm a
On 1/6/2014 9:20 PM, authfri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > When most people "fight" for a cause, they harm other people.
> >
> Simply not true that when most people "fight" for a cause, they
> harm other people.
>
The U.S. invaded Afghanistan based on the opinion of our congressional
leaders. For
Ann, it's an interesting topic: what constitutes initiating violence against
another? With this wording I'm excluding violence that a person uses to defend
themselves or their loved ones. So again, what constitutes initiating violence
or harm against another? Does it encompass only physical harm
.
On Tue, 1/7/14, Duveyoung wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Finally, an anti-gay marriage protest I like
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 7, 2014, 6:03 AM
The guy quit on day 16...eating pizza tonight on TV.miffed that he only got
one pizza sent to him -- asks for more to be sent.
On day 16 of a fast, an inexperienced person might be hallucinating to some
degree -- maybe God came to him and said, "Oy! Could you lay off with the
hating? What
I see, A rather extreme stance IMO, but we all have our hot button issues, I
guess.
uh, that might better be a micro!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Now wait a second. What you are saying has nothing to do with whether he is
fasting or not, at least as I understand it. And forget for a moment his other
comments, as they seem to have no bearing on what you are saying above.
It seems tha
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
good one Judy
You could make a macro for that too Steve!
Simply not true that when most people "fight" for a cause, they harm other
people. When it does happen, it's the exception, not the rule, not by a very
long shot indeed. Most people in this country, at least, don't believe their
strong opinions give them the right to do violence to others.
I
Now wait a second. What you are saying has nothing to do with whether he is
fasting or not, at least as I understand it. And forget for a moment his other
comments, as they seem to have no bearing on what you are saying above.
It seems that you are rendering a pretty harsh judgement simply
But, the thing is, in his "fight" to protest and in turn his hope to have gay
marriages banned or made unlawful he is doing a kind of violence. The form his
violence is taking is to judge and ultimately condemn the validity and the
power of love and the desire to commit, in the form of marriage,
Steve, what I had been admiring about the guy was his lack of violence against
others in the presence of his own strong opinions. Meaning, he isn't bombing
abortion clinics or flying airplanes into buildings or bullying gays online.
When most people "fight" for a cause, they harm other people. T
Seraph, I don't think opinions themselves can be true or false though they can
be based on true or false conclusions. And I still think emotional blackmail is
an interaction that occurs on the personal rather than societal level.
On Monday, January 6, 2014 5:30 PM, "s3raph...@yahoo.com"
wr
I guess you could look at it both ways. But it would seem to me that he is
putting the onus on someone in this case.
I think it is a nice distinction Ann is making in either fighting for a cause,
or being willing to die, if something isn't changed in a manner you want to see
it changed.
I think he probably knew he had an out. And looks like he just got it.
Re "IMO emotional blackmail occurs only when there is a personal relationship
between the people involved.":
You opinion is false. Hunger strikes whip up a lot of emotion!
Re "In the US suffragettes jailed for their beliefs went on hunger strikes and
were force fed as a result. Would you say y
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
turq, as I said to Ann, I've found it difficult to really know someone's
complete self without knowing them in person. I don't think that's an idiotic
realization.
On Monday, January 6, 2014 11:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In Fairf
Thanks for passing it along, Judy. This makes me think way less of him.
On Monday, January 6, 2014 1:22 PM, "authfri...@yahoo.com"
wrote:
You don't need to know someone's "complete self" to draw certain conclusions
about them, Share, and it's idiotic to think you do.
BTW, here's what
You don't need to know someone's "complete self" to draw certain conclusions
about them, Share, and it's idiotic to think you do.
BTW, here's what this "very courageous" person has said about gay people on
his Facebook page:
“The homosexual movement is less tolerant than the Nazis and if
Barry wrote:
Her father didn't like this much, and wrote back a long -- and from the
Psychologist's point of view, "sociopathic and manipulative" letter, in which
he basically ran the ultimate Narcissistic Personality Disorder routine,
denying any wrongdoing on his part, trying to put the bl
turq, as I said to Ann, I've found it difficult to really know someone's
complete self without knowing them in person. I don't think that's an idiotic
realization.
On Monday, January 6, 2014 11:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
>
> Ann, I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
>
> Ann, I don't think that guy is putting an onus on anyone. He seems
like a very courageous person to me, taking responsibility for his own
beliefs, as wrong as I think they are. But I could be incorrect, as I've
found it's difficult to rea
Ann, I don't think that guy is putting an onus on anyone. He seems like a very
courageous person to me, taking responsibility for his own beliefs, as wrong as
I think they are. But I could be incorrect, as I've found it's difficult to
really know people's complete selves without knowing them in
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Seraphita, I support gay marriage and I don't feel emotionally blackmailed by
the guy who's starving himself to death to protest it. IMO emotional blackmail
occurs when there is a personal relationship between the people involved.
To some de
turq, I don't agree with you that I'm dragging the forum down because I have
mostly ignored the taunts. I've been engaging in what for me was an interesting
discussion about several topics. I was surprised by my initial reaction to what
you posted and for the most part I've been enjoying unpacki
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
I'll comment on this because...uh, frankly...I set these two up to get their
panties in a twist and run around acting like cultists, and they did, so I
might as well gloat a little and rub it in. :-) :-) :-)
What happened was this. A former
Seraphita, I support gay marriage and I don't feel emotionally blackmailed by
the guy who's starving himself to death to protest it. IMO emotional blackmail
occurs when there is a personal relationship between the people involved.
In the US suffragettes jailed for their beliefs went on hunger st
Really, this is so revealing of Barry's integrity and character (or rather,
lack of same). It's impossible even to imagine Robin doing something like that
to Barry, or to anybody, for that matter.
It's also brilliantly confirmatory of everything I've said here about how
threatened Barry was-
Barry has taken his anti-Robin jihad over to Facebook?? Unbelievable. He can't
get away with that here, because there are too many people who know the facts.
On Facebook, he can simply block anyone who knows what the real story is. What
a coward.
Yup, Barry has chosen his next favourite haunt,
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Ann, he does this sort of thing deliberately - his MO. I read a book once that
mentioned about chronological age, vs. emotional age. Barry is very immature
for his age. He continues to act as a child, yet because of what he has done in
his many
Oh, good grief, what a load of utter crap. None of it is even halfway accurate
or fair. It's just Barry fantasizing again, demonizing his critics while
pretending that he pays no attention to them.
Four specific points:
First, like Feste and Stevie, Barry doesn't dare acknowledge that th
Ann, he does this sort of thing deliberately - his MO. I read a book once that
mentioned about chronological age, vs. emotional age. Barry is very immature
for his age. He continues to act as a child, yet because of what he has done in
his many years, and the development of his intellect, he soc
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Steve and Feste, I don't think it's a good idea to encourage Share to
participate, no matter how badly she kicks the Mean Girls' asses. You *know*
how the MGC pack thinks -- if they can taunt one of their hate-objects into
replying to them, per
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Steve and Feste, I don't think it's a good idea to encourage Share to
participate, no matter how badly she kicks the Mean Girls' asses. You *know*
how the MGC pack thinks -- if they can taunt one of their hate-objects into
replying to them, per
Steve and Feste, I don't think it's a good idea to encourage Share to
participate, no matter how badly she kicks the Mean Girls' asses. You
*know* how the MGC pack thinks -- if they can taunt one of their
hate-objects into replying to them, period, then they believe they've
"won." It's the same gam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u wrote:
>
> Yes. Barry I think we can arrange something?
Good to hear. The more of these thought-dinosaurs who remove themselves
from the collective gene pool by practicing the Darwin Awards Hunger
Fast technique, the better off the human race will be.
Yes. Barry I think we can arrange something?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Oh, yesss! Barry. the girl's a super freak!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT65GFEMQ2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT65GFEMQ2s
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
I think that
Oh, yesss! Barry. the girl's a super freak!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT65GFEMQ2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT65GFEMQ2s
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
I think that *everyone* who feels that gay marriage is wrong should do exactly
what this Utah man is doing,
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Is that worse than being a "lying jackass," auth, because that's what you were
calling me a couple of weeks ago. I know that following your failure to get the
better of Share, who is far too nimble for you ever to lay a glove on, you need
to fi
People who starve themselves to make a political point should be ignored and
allowed to die.
I detest people who use emotional blackmail to get their points across. We
were given the gift of rationality so let's use it. Give me reasons why
Position X is preferable to Position Y and I'll either
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
I think that *everyone* who feels that gay marriage is wrong should do exactly
what this Utah man is doing, and go on hunger fasts to the death to stand up
for their beliefs. This would actually solve much of the problem, and leave the
world a
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