[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-10 Thread dhamiltony2k5
If history has anything to say, If history had anything to say, it wouldn't keep repeating itself. :-) what I think you're feeling in revering Shakerisms is the same thing you try to promote here on FFL, Doug -- a sense of community. The Fairfield

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Probably within the Dome attending community, if people are hearing voices and it is a problem, then they usually get rooted out with/for mental disturbance. Administratively referred to mental health people otherwise. That's the way you'd see it on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-09 Thread Duveyoung
#137460 Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: Probably within the Dome attending community, if people are hearing voices and it is a problem, then they usually get rooted out with/for mental disturbance.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-09 Thread dhamiltony2k5
This one gets sent around the community too on the subject of spiritism affliction. Seems more directly the transcendental perspective. paste Of Negative Energy, in Method Un-edited without attribution or permission -anonymous Love is a form of insight. If someone says something to you and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-04 Thread dhamiltony2k5
If history has anything to say, If history had anything to say, it wouldn't keep repeating itself. :-) what I think you're feeling in revering Shakerisms is the same thing you try to promote here on FFL, Doug -- a sense of community. FF meditating comunity? Some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-03 Thread dhamiltony2k5
snip However, is noteable to find Maharaj Tony and Raja Konhaus lately 'pitching' channeling and spiritualism as a direction for re-kindle and salvation for the TMmovement after Maharishi, in distinction to what was a meditator shakti movement. Seemingly becomes now a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-03 Thread lurkernomore20002000
Translation: This existed in Doug's mind only. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: snip However, is noteable to find Maharaj Tony and Raja Konhaus lately 'pitching' channeling and spiritualism as a direction for re-kindle and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: Translation: This existed in Doug's mind only. I do suspect you're right. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: snip However, is noteable to find Maharaj Tony

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: [quoting Doug:] snip However, is noteable to find Maharaj Tony and Raja Konhaus lately 'pitching' channeling and spiritualism as a direction for re-kindle and salvation for the TMmovement after

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-01 Thread dhamiltony2k5
HOWEVER, both teachers made a clear distinction between that and the entity with which one has this feeling actually TELLING you things. If there is any kind of *information* being conveyed, then the voice is NOT TO BE TRUSTED. I have found this same teaching in quite a few

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-11-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: snip However, is noteable to find Maharaj Tony and Raja Konhaus lately 'pitching' channeling and spiritualism as a direction for re-kindle and salvation for the TMmovement after Maharishi, in distinction to what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-31 Thread dhamiltony2k5
If history has anything to say, , what I think you're feeling in revering Shakerisms is the same thing you try to promote here on FFL, Doug -- a sense of community. Not revering, just observing. Just proactive interest. Not just Shakerisms. Not revering but steeping some little in 18th and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: If history has anything to say, If history had anything to say, it wouldn't keep repeating itself. :-) what I think you're feeling in revering Shakerisms is the same thing you try to promote here on FFL, Doug

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-31 Thread Premanand
Or perhaps the future will see that TM 'works', but not in the way that the TM organisation gives people to believe it works. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: If history has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-31 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: If history has anything to say, If history had anything to say, it wouldn't keep repeating itself. :-) what I think you're feeling in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-31 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: If history has anything to say, If history had anything to say, it wouldn't keep repeating itself. :-) what I think you're feeling in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-31 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: If the TM movement is still around in a hundred years, Don't worry, it will. And you will be very dead.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-30 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Probably within the Dome attending community, if people are hearing voices and it is a problem, then they usually get rooted out with/for mental disturbance. Administratively referred to mental health people otherwise. That's the way you'd see it on the ground here in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-30 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Probably within the Dome attending community, if people are hearing voices and it is a problem, then they usually get rooted out with/for mental disturbance. Administratively referred to mental health people otherwise. That's the way you'd see it on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-30 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Every once in a while someone turns up who *was there*. Like,there from Squaw Valley. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Oct 29, 2009, at 3:31 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: But we see it here

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-30 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Or the self-help home study plan: In addition to the SBS Guru Dev comments about trading a diamond for a lump of spinach, what Maharishi did say practically was to simply meditate, be with the mantra, when bothered by these kind of outside influences. However, on a practical level amongst a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-30 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: A good point, and hopefully a springboard to an interesting thread. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2009-10-29 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Going back in this particular thread, is a strong predeliction against it within TM. This was touched on in this previous thread. There is a teaching this way in the TM community. Going back to Guru Dev's. The warnings against the astral circus in that `trading a diamond for a lump

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-06 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good point, and hopefully a springboard to an interesting thread. I have always been nothing short of *amazed* at the number of TMers who get involved with channeling and spirit voices and communicating with higher

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-06 Thread Angela Mailander
I have a long-time (30 + years) friend who channels a being and I have had occasion to observe them very closely. I use the plural pronoun to hide their sex and to indicate the two of them, the human and the channeled being, together. They make a truly excellent living at it because they are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-06 Thread Frank McLaughlin
I too have had the experience of being visited by deceased friends and family while asleep. It has happened in what seemed like a dream, but more often it happens when I am sleeping but not dreaming (or at least I am not dreaming as I do normally night after night). None have spoken to me,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-06 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 6, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Frank McLaughlin wrote: None have spoken to me, but a few times I came away with an understanding of something the visiting soul wanted me to know. Frank, you could make $$ on this! That's major for you, right? Someone tried selling One Human Soul on Ebay, in a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-04 Thread TurquoiseB
A good point, and hopefully a springboard to an interesting thread. I have always been nothing short of *amazed* at the number of TMers who get involved with channeling and spirit voices and communicating with higher masters and the like, given the STRONG stance Maharishi took against these

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-04 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A good point, and hopefully a springboard to an interesting thread. I have always been nothing short of *amazed* at the number of TMers who get involved with channeling and spirit voices and communicating with higher

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-04 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: A good point, and hopefully a springboard to an interesting thread.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-04 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---I'm not so sure. Once, my deceased Mother appeared to me in the dream state saying that in the near future there would be an ant invasion in my apt. Sure enough, 2 weeks later there was an ant invasion, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-04 Thread matrixmonitor
---Thx. A few times I've projected my mind into the minds of deceased people seeking to find out what they were fixated upon. Once, I perceived a thought bubble my deceased Bro. was creating in which he was witnessing a drag racing event (that was his foremost interest in life). Then,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-04 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor matrixmonitor@ wrote: ---I'm not so sure. Once, my deceased Mother appeared to me in the dream state saying that in the near future there would be an ant

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual vs Spiritism

2008-03-03 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Your quote from Patanjali is irrelevant in this context. The quote is evidently relevant only in that it is a strong comment and warning, from scripture. Interesting distinction you make though about this willing and unwilling possession. Are you experienced in the sense that you