[FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
Nice post, nice intent. Thanks for the breath of fresh air, and of reality, Rick. My condolences to Margi Gunn and my hearty bon voyage to Dick, neither of whom seem to need either my condolences or my wishes for their continued well-beling. They both seem to be doing fine. But some of the other posters on FFL? Man, I'm starting to worry. I mean, this is theoretically supposed to be a forum for 20-to-40-year meditation practitioners, people who should, to hear them talk about their respective spiritual resumes, have learned a little something along the Way, and have a little something to offer to others, who might just be starting out along their own Way. And what do we have instead? The Out-Of-Control Ego Wrestling Hour. Tonight's matches, beamed to you directly from the famous Hot Ghee Wrestling Pits in Fairfield, Iowa, will feature some of the sport's biggest egos, in a smack-down championship match to determine whose is biggest. In Ghee Pit #1, we've got the TM Ego Team, vs... well...vs. just about every other forum of spirit- ual practice on the planet. In one of the other semifinal matches, in Pit #2, we've got the I'm- More-Moral-Than-You-Are-And-If-You-Don't-Agree- I'll-Lynch-Your-Immoral-Ass Team, up against...well, anyone who feels that they have the right to determine their own approach to morality. In Pit #3 we've got the match between the potential authors. In one corner is the noted author of I'm OK and You're Not, the supposed future bestseller about everything that's wrong with the world of spiritual practice, with no distracting suggestions for what could be more right. She's up against the author of Secret Knowledge Imparted to Me By All of the Famous People In History Who Were Lucky Enough To Meet Me, in which the author tells us the inside scoop on Nazi Germany, 9/11, the building of the pyramids, Noah's Ark, and other events she witnessed first-hand. *That* should be a crowd-pleaser. The fourth semifinal match, in Ghee Pit #4, is between the God Freaks and the Atheists. This one will draw a big crowd, because all of the God Freak fans are terrified that the Atheists might win, and then they'd have to come up with an explanation for why God would allow such a travesty to happen. The winners of each of the semifinal matches will face each other in followup matches over the next week, to determine once and for all which team has The Biggest Ego Of All. Meanwhile, Rick will continue to post a few *real* posts like Margi's, trying to remind people what they *could* be doing instead of Ego Wrestling. Marek and Hugo will continue to post intelligent, well-thought-out stuff, and no one will notice. And a few people will actually, from time to time, post something spiritual. The sponsors apologize in advance for these dis- tractions. We're doing our best to eliminate them, and to bring you only the top-flight Ego Wrestling that you came here to see. With any luck Mister Morality will win the overall championship, and he'll organize a lynching and we can get rid of these wusses once and for all and then Fairfield Life will be All Ego Wrestling, All The Time, the way the audiences seem to want it to be. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Rick et al, My husband and life partner died suddenly three weeks ago. I could feel his bliss at being free while I was doing chest compressions, wondering if I shuld bring him back or just let him go into the wonderfulness he was experiencing and sharing with me. Nature took care of things for him. I just want to say that life can end in the blink of an eye, and we shouldn't waste out time playing one-upsmanship verbal games and insulting each other frequently the way so many people seem to do on Fairfield Life. Life in the relative world is difficult enough without having so called friends putting us down. There are so many better uses of our time, for service to others, for personal silence or contemplation, for meditation and program, for enjoying the beauty of the Creator's work. We can unstress or dump our bad feelings by pounding the couch instead of verbally or electronically pounding each other. I find that my time is better spent doing other things right now. Rick, thank you for your condolences and please post this note if possible. Thanks. Love, Margi Gunn
RE: [FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
I got some chuckles out of that. So what is it about FFL? Most of us have a TM background. Is it that there’s little emphasis in the TMO on becoming a nicer person, as there is in Buddhist circles and some other spiritual groups? In fact, egotism is intentionally cultured, with crowns, titles, and a pecking order determined by net worth. I remember a political cartoon illustrating the “Reagan end run” in which thoughts would bypass that part of his brain which, in most of us, edits and sometimes censors the nonsense thoughts that might otherwise come out of our mouths. It seems that some here suffer from the same syndrome. If they’re in a rage, or feeling nasty toward someone, they somehow feel justified in venting it, and there’s no indication of any introspection causing them to pause and consider the consequences or even the legitimacy of their perspective. Maybe Emily Post should be required reading for FFL membership. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM
[FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I was thinking more along the lines of, If you think that you know enough to write a book, or to preach to someone else about how they should live their lives, you can't join until you get over it. Says Barry, preaching to others about how they should live their lives.
[FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got some chuckles out of that. So what is it about FFL? Most of us have a TM background. Is it that there's little emphasis in the TMO on becoming a nicer person, as there is in Buddhist circles and some other spiritual groups? In fact, egotism is intentionally cultured, with crowns, titles, and a pecking order determined by net worth. Not to mention being the best and the highest path. I remember a political cartoon illustrating the Reagan end run in which thoughts would bypass that part of his brain which, in most of us, edits and sometimes censors the nonsense thoughts that might otherwise come out of our mouths. It seems that some here suffer from the same syndrome. If they're in a rage, or feeling nasty toward someone, they somehow feel justified in venting it, and there's no indication of any introspection causing them to pause and consider the consequences or even the legitimacy of their perspective. I can't disagree with what you say here, but what interests me more is that there are some who seem to *feed* on losing control in this way. It's as if the times when they are out of control and lost in some over-the-top emotional moment are the highest points in their lives, so they go out of their way looking for more things to be outraged about, so they can feel more of them. Maybe Emily Post should be required reading for FFL membership. It couldn't hurt. I was thinking more along the lines of, If you think that you know enough to write a book, or to preach to someone else about how they should live their lives, you can't join until you get over it.
[FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I was thinking more along the lines of, If you think that you know enough to write a book, or to preach to someone else about how they should live their lives, you can't join until you get over it. Says Barry, preaching to others about how they should live their lives. At no point in his post did Barry suggest anything about how others should live their lives. I merely noted what I saw as trends, and then cracked a joke. There was *zero* suggestion that anyone act on that inform- ation in any way. (Original post included below, to provide an example of what Judy considers preaching to others about how they should live their lives.) It's interesting that you, a supposed editor, can't see that. Maybe this failing in you is caused by some environmental biohazard near where you live, and you should write a book about it. :-) I'm thinkin' that what you might *really* be upset about is realizing that here it is only Tuesday, and you're panicky because you've realized that you only have two posts left in which to trash Barry, whereas he has 20 more in which to ignore your very existence. :-) Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got some chuckles out of that. So what is it about FFL? Most of us have a TM background. Is it that there's little emphasis in the TMO on becoming a nicer person, as there is in Buddhist circles and some other spiritual groups? In fact, egotism is intentionally cultured, with crowns, titles, and a pecking order determined by net worth. Not to mention being the best and the highest path. I remember a political cartoon illustrating the Reagan end run in which thoughts would bypass that part of his brain which, in most of us, edits and sometimes censors the nonsense thoughts that might otherwise come out of our mouths. It seems that some here suffer from the same syndrome. If they're in a rage, or feeling nasty toward someone, they somehow feel justified in venting it, and there's no indication of any introspection causing them to pause and consider the consequences or even the legitimacy of their perspective. I can't disagree with what you say here, but what interests me more is that there are some who seem to *feed* on losing control in this way. It's as if the times when they are out of control and lost in some over-the-top emotional moment are the highest points in their lives, so they go out of their way looking for more things to be outraged about, so they can feel more of them. Maybe Emily Post should be required reading for FFL membership. It couldn't hurt. I was thinking more along the lines of, If you think that you know enough to write a book, or to preach to someone else about how they should live their lives, you can't join until you get over it.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:55 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn) I'm thinkin' that what you might *really* be upset about is realizing that here it is only Tuesday, and you're panicky because you've realized that you only have two posts left in which to trash Barry, whereas he has 20 more in which to ignore your very existence. :-) Ah, grasshopper, but you didn’t ignore it just then. You, with 20 arrows in your quiver, decided to let one fly, knowing that she’s only got two with which to respond. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM
[FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I was thinking more along the lines of, If you think that you know enough to write a book, or to preach to someone else about how they should live their lives, you can't join until you get over it. Says Barry, preaching to others about how they should live their lives. At no point in his post did Barry suggest anything about how others should live their lives. You can't join until you get over it seemed like a pretty clear preachment to me. I merely noted what I saw as trends, and then cracked a joke. There was *zero* suggestion that anyone act on that inform- ation in any way. Well, Barry, not only did you make such a suggestion (quoted above), but your stock in trade here is preaching to others about how they should live their lives. snip I'm thinkin' that what you might *really* be upset about Looks like it's you who's upset, Barry. is realizing that here it is only Tuesday, and you're panicky because you've realized that you only have two posts left in which to trash Barry, whereas he has 20 more in which to ignore your very existence. :-) According to Yahoo Search, this is my 24th post, so there's no way I could be upset about having only two posts left. And FYI, I wouldn't be upset even if I *did* have only two posts left. I find my participation here is a lot more rewarding if I'm not constantly counting my posts and just quit for the week whenever I reach the limit. Have you noticed, by the way, that the prediction you were salivating over awhile back--about how I would gradually get further and further behind because at the start of the new week I'd have to first respond to all the posts I couldn't respond to the previous week--has flopped miserably? What's particularly amusing is that a month or so after you'd made that prediction, you claimed it had all come true--when it had not. And you're *still* obsessed with the number of my posts. Oh, and by the way, I've made only two posts this week (three counting this one) that were critical of you. This is a sickness with you, Barry. You really need to get some professional help with it. Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I got some chuckles out of that. So what is it about FFL? Most of us have a TM background. Is it that there's little emphasis in the TMO on becoming a nicer person, as there is in Buddhist circles and some other spiritual groups? In fact, egotism is intentionally cultured, with crowns, titles, and a pecking order determined by net worth. Not to mention being the best and the highest path. I remember a political cartoon illustrating the Reagan end run in which thoughts would bypass that part of his brain which, in most of us, edits and sometimes censors the nonsense thoughts that might otherwise come out of our mouths. It seems that some here suffer from the same syndrome. If they're in a rage, or feeling nasty toward someone, they somehow feel justified in venting it, and there's no indication of any introspection causing them to pause and consider the consequences or even the legitimacy of their perspective. I can't disagree with what you say here, but what interests me more is that there are some who seem to *feed* on losing control in this way. It's as if the times when they are out of control and lost in some over-the-top emotional moment are the highest points in their lives, so they go out of their way looking for more things to be outraged about, so they can feel more of them. Maybe Emily Post should be required reading for FFL membership. It couldn't hurt. I was thinking more along the lines of, If you think that you know enough to write a book, or to preach to someone else about how they should live their lives, you can't join until you get over it.
[FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: TurquoiseB I'm thinkin' that what you might *really* be upset about is realizing that here it is only Tuesday, and you're panicky because you've realized that you only have two posts left in which to trash Barry, whereas he has 20 more in which to ignore your very existence. :-) Ah, grasshopper, but you didn't ignore it just then. You, with 20 arrows in your quiver, decided to let one fly, knowing that she's only got two with which to respond. True. I was just dumbfounded that someone who claims to be an editor could have seen what I wrote as preaching to others about how they should live their lives. So I got sucked in by her troll and replied. My bad. In truth, I think she only used two of her 33 posts so far this week to trash me. I think that's a new record, and Judy probably deserves to be congratulated for it rather than chided. Congratulations, Judy. May this trend continue. Now back to ignoring her, and poking fun at more currently-high-profile losers, like Bronte and Angela and Edg... :-)
RE: [FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:48 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn) According to Yahoo Search, this is my 24th post, so there's no way I could be upset about having only two posts left. I’ve received exactly 35 posts from you as emails in Outlook. Sometimes Yahoo burps and sends out duplicates, but I quick spot check didn’t reveal any. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM
[FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
Judy, I give you ten of my rights-to-post. Send me your replies via duveyoung at yahoo dotty commie, and I'll repost them here. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:48 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn) According to Yahoo Search, this is my 24th post, so there's no way I could be upset about having only two posts left. I've received exactly 35 posts from you as emails in Outlook. Sometimes Yahoo burps and sends out duplicates, but I quick spot check didn't reveal any. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM
[FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of authfriend Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:48 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn) According to Yahoo Search, this is my 24th post, so there's no way I could be upset about having only two posts left. I've received exactly 35 posts from you as emails in Outlook. Sometimes Yahoo burps and sends out duplicates, but I quick spot check didn't reveal any. OK. I'll be going by Yahoo Search's number until somebody decides to challenge its count, as you've just done. It's usually either on the nose or very close. I know I can count on Barry to warn me when I'm getting close, even if Yahoo Search is off, since it's so important to him that he's willing to go to the trouble of actually counting my posts one by one.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duveyoung Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 12:23 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn) Judy, I give you ten of my rights-to-post. Send me your replies via duveyoung at yahoo dotty commie, and I'll repost them here. Edg Hey, this could become a lucrative business, kind of like trading carbon emissions credits. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1098 - Release Date: 10/29/2007 9:28 AM
[FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I was thinking more along the lines of, If you think that you know enough to write a book, or to preach to someone else about how they should live their lives, you can't join until you get over it. Says Barry, preaching to others about how they should live their lives. As Turq would say, in mahavakya style, as a tool of enlightenment, and as Lenny Bruce would say as a compliment (compliments of Curtis), Go Fuck yourself .. such unrelenting, prejudicial snarking is uncalled for. IMO, of course.
[FairfieldLife] Championship Ghee Wrestling (was Re: From Margi Gunn)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: I got some chuckles out of that. So what is it about FFL? Most of us have a TM background. Is it that there's little emphasis in the TMO on becoming a nicer person, as there is in Buddhist circles and some other spiritual groups? In fact, egotism is intentionally cultured, with crowns, titles, and a pecking order determined by net worth. Not to mention being the best and the highest path. I remember a political cartoon illustrating the Reagan end run in which thoughts would bypass that part of his brain which, in most of us, edits and sometimes censors the nonsense thoughts that might otherwise come out of our mouths. It seems that some here suffer from the same syndrome. If they're in a rage, or feeling nasty toward someone, they somehow feel justified in venting it, and there's no indication of any introspection causing them to pause and consider the consequences or even the legitimacy of their perspective. I can't disagree with what you say here, but what interests me more is that there are some who seem to *feed* on losing control in this way. It's as if the times when they are out of control and lost in some over-the-top emotional moment are the highest points in their lives, so they go out of their way looking for more things to be outraged about, so they can feel more of them. Maybe Emily Post should be required reading for FFL membership. It couldn't hurt. I was thinking more along the lines of, If you think that you know enough to write a book, or to preach to someone else wahow they should live their lives, you can't join until you get over it. Nina White Winquist -- married / divorced to/from Bob, (and she was also an early 1965-66 SIMS / UCLA one) was doing an Emily Post gig for a while. More Dome Ladies Teas type I think. But if she is lurking, or accessible,she may have a few pointers -- in nice framework -- for FFL. (That ia, be the nice cop that D did once -- applaudingly, though sachrinely IMO, but as of late, abandoned manners and crapped out, into rabid paranoia and wrath. Just a view)
