[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-19 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How cool is that! I'll bet he never forgot that lesson. (Or if he was really dense he just smacked the next smaller monkey down the line a

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-19 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How cool is that! I'll bet he never forgot that lesson. (Or if

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-18 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did you CARE? Because he was being a pissant, and a pussy pissant at that. I later asked the hotel owners, from whom the hotel had been

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-18 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did you CARE? Because he was being a pissant, and a pussy

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-18 Thread Don
Yeah, I think this kind of insanity is totally outrageous but at the same time, I am concerned about the purity of the teaching that simply meaning that people in 5, 10, 50 years will have access to the TM program as I know it. That makes me a thought stopper, a dirty rotten fundie? Who's the

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mentally challenged ? No, as far as I know he's never had anything to do with Benjamin Creme. :-) Care to clarify ? No, other than to suspect that my rebellious, mentally-challenged, ice-cream

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not posting http://www.shareintl.org now here for you since I doubt that you are interested, but for other less predjudiced souls who could be interested in finding out who Maitreya really is. A sattvic figment of Mr. Creme's over active

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: who could be interested in finding out who Maitreya really is. just curious, have you been in the physical presence of one of Maitreya's incarnations? If so, what was it like? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread Llundrub
When Creme ranks Antoine Nader up with Jesus I'll take notice. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] "Purity of the teaching" (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices /

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Obviously, this is not a purity of the teaching issue per se, but it IS an example of the fascist mindset that can develop in those who espouse it as an excuse for just being fascists. There's always that danger, of

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then it hits him, in a blinding flash of realization, that he's sitting there quivering in his seat, about to be judged by his betters for the dastardly crime of Eating Ice Cream. He starts to laugh. They call

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
Why did you CARE? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your friend has great experience and is pushed out of the TMO. Maybe there is some truth to the old rumor that the

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they always were, timid little mice given power before they were mature enough to

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did you CARE? Because he was being a pissant, and a pussy pissant at that. I later asked the hotel owners, from whom the hotel had been leased for the 16 of us there, whether the course leader in question (the only one

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I got away with it because it was just a TM movement weasel, and thus confrontation-averse. I mean the guy left a NOTE, ferchrissakes...how spineless is that? If it had been Dick Cheney I'd still be in

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I got away with it because it was just a TM movement weasel, and thus confrontation-averse. I mean the guy left a NOTE,

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why did you CARE? Because he was being a pissant, and a pussy pissant at that. I later asked the hotel owners, from whom the hotel had been

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since purity of the teaching is and always has been MMY's most important focus, he's been willing to tolerate less-than-creative

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
And then it hits him, in a blinding flash of realization,that he's sitting there quivering in his seat, about tobe judged by his betters for the dastardly crime of EatingIce Cream.He starts to laugh. They call him into the room. He can'tstop laughing. He answers none of their questions,

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since purity of the teaching is and always has been MMY's

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your friend has great experience and is pushed out of the TMO. Maybe there is some truth to the old rumor that the powers that be are reincarnated members of the order of the protectors of the faith (inquisitors)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Rick Archer
on 6/16/05 10:20 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petty tyrants are able to be tyrants only because people allow them to do so. Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they always were,

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
Petty tyrants are able to be tyrants only because people allow them to do so. Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they always were, timid little mice given power before they were mature

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petty tyrants are able to be tyrants only because people allow them to do so. Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others tolaugh at them, and they turn back into what they alwayswere, timid little mice given power before they weremature enough to handle it.Unc--Or they take power. To subscribe, send a message to:

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they always were, timid little mice given power before they were mature enough to

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice job: Confronting suppression. They are cowards and wilt when one stands his ground. Jeff Its a nice story. However, I have found in my experience, such direct confrontations do not usually have such

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I said, the owners and managers are important because you all have made the bed, but the chef is the one that will be bringing people off the streets and turning the tricks for you. And then I thought, jeez

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
Sounds logical to me. Sounds to me like you're mellowing a bit. Is this a good thing?lurk-Well, when I quit things are a bit more Yamantaka. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stand up to them, especially in a way that makes them look ridiculous or causes others to laugh at them, and they turn back into what they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
One person can handle an individual situation as Unc did. When you're going up against a big, powerful entity (gov't, drug companies, etc) you need group effort. And it works. Our chapter just snuffed out a call for mandatory "mental health" screenings that came from the top (GW) and was

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lupidus108
--- That phrase is the ultimate thought-stopper, as wielded by the TM fundamentalist. It is *supposed* to stop the discussion. *Nothing* trumps purity of the teaching. *Anything* is permissible to defend* it, including acts that are illegal (such as dismissing a student from a

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lupidus108
For a change, I'd gotten assigned a decent room. It was on the fourth floor, sunny, had its own bathroom. What is not to like? So it's about two weeks into the course and we get a new German course leader. He shows up, is assigned *his* room and, one can presume, doesn't like it much.

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can understand the descision of this board. I would'nt want an initiator myself eating icecream all the time, not being able to take instruction from his teacher or to be unable to articulate himself. As he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can understand the decision of this board. I wouldn't want an initiator myself eating ice cream all the time, not being able to take instruction from his teacher or

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can understand the decision of this board. I wouldn't want an initiator myself eating ice cream all the time, not being able to take instruction from his teacher or to be unable to articulate

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need to catch any breath - I'm just flabbagasted as to the mental cognition of any connection between these subjects as Unc suggests whatsover. He might see something I do not comprehend, or he has another agenda

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mentally challenged ? No, as far as I know he's never had anything to do with Benjamin Creme. :-) Care to clarify ? No, other than to suspect that my rebellious, mentally-challenged, ice-cream

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need to catch any breath - I'm just flabbagasted as to the mental cognition of any connection between these subjects as Unc suggests

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mentally challenged ? No, as far as I know he's never had anything to do with Benjamin Creme. :-) Care to clarify ? No, other than to suspect that my rebellious, mentally-challenged, ice-cream

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread Llundrub
I've learned a lot from you Lupidus, but I'm just not as good at it as you are. I'm just not anti-anti enough. - Original Message - From: lupidus108 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] "Purity of the teaching" (was

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread shanti2218411
--I think rather than trying todefeatp.t.ie make them look ridiculous Castaneda was trying to make the point that the petty tyrants in our life(that is people who have power and abuse it eg bosses etc)are people from whom we can learn how not to be emotionally reactive or self important (the

[FairfieldLife] Purity of the teaching (was Re: Lenz -- Sex and Business Practices / Ethics)

2005-06-16 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoa! Flying in from the unprotected flank with a devastating body shot, Unc, staggers Lups with a Creme attack. But Lups isn't down, he catches his breath - No need to catch any breath - I'm just flabbagasted as