Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A short list of my grievances with the movement
> Maharishi's model of enlightenment has always puzzled me as well -
> right from the Intro lecture - really, why should a true Indian sage
> have any concern about World Peace when he should be talking about ho
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maharishi's model of enlightenment has always puzzled me as well -
> right from the Intro lecture - really, why should a true Indian sage
> have any concern about World Peace when he should be talking about how
> the world
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sandiego108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" wrote:
> >
> > Maharishi's model of enlightenment has always puzzled me as well -
> > right from the Intro lecture - really, why should a true Indian
sage
> > have any
---That's why MMY is a "200%" Guru: 100% for Advaita and 100% for (as
an ideal: Heaven on Earth). But some clarification and discussion
would be advisable. Just some thoughts:
1. First, what do we mean by "Heaven on Earth". We can go all the
way back to Isaiah for some serious considerations i
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maharishi's model of enlightenment has always puzzled me as well -
> right from the Intro lecture - really, why should a true Indian sage
> have any concern about World Peace when he should be talking about
how
> the worl
Maharishi's model of enlightenment has always puzzled me as well -
right from the Intro lecture - really, why should a true Indian sage
have any concern about World Peace when he should be talking about how
the world is illusion . . . how the world is as it should be . . .
shouldn't we be walking a
> Have a look at message 164997 and let's change the
> focus to the other side (for a little while).
>
Yes, Fred, I read your previous message and I enjoyed it
very much. But I've got my own memories to deal with
right now. All I can say is that now comes one "boy_boy"
babbling leela Krishn cha
Now that we've chewed the final heck out of my original post about what
I did not like about the movement, I'd like to share my other (igrored)
post. Have a look at message 164997 and let's change the focus to the
other side (for a little while).
regards,
Fred
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Thanks for your comments about what I wrote, very insightful. I
> especially dug when you talked about people projecting special power
> on to you. And you knew it! Good for you.
> I'm still working it all o
ctive consciousness. Let's see the bastards give it the old college
try.
- Original Message -
From: "abutilon108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:01 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A short list of my grievances with the movemen
Thanks for your comments about what I wrote, very insightful. I
especially dug when you talked about people projecting special power
on to you. And you knew it! Good for you.
I'm still working it all out. I don't have a model of "enlightenment"
these days really so I am back to the physiological
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You know, I am trying to find an understanding of what went on with
> Maharishi.
Me too! It's an interesting process. First he became a "fallible"
human being and then the question of what was actually goi
Geez wrote:
> But I think by "the beginning" we were thinking of
> Beacon Light days...1955. I'm trying like to hell to
> find the source of my many years belief that it was
> just Ram (or Raam) at first.
>
> I am certain I read this. I'll try and find it.
>
The very first bija mantras used by
"Kirk" wrote: Some people have said that Judaism stems from Samkhya.
Here's the funny part: when Sanskrit was finally determined to need
an "alphabet," they choose ancient Hebrew for the starting place.
I'm wondering: when an oral tradition "goes into print," is that the
start of serious erosio
Some people have said that Judaism stems from Samkhya.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 wrote:
> >
> > Some responses:
> > "> But that isn't the distinction, at least not the one
> > > we were discussing. It's between *names* of personal
> > > gods and *man
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> http://web.archive.org/web/20020802224530/minet.org/mantras.html
>
> Looks like you are right Lawson. In '61 there was a different mantra
> for men and women.
> Ram for dudes and Shiriram for chicks
>
> By 69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > I think the special sounds
> > > business was only important for branding
http://web.archive.org/web/20020802224530/minet.org/mantras.html
Looks like you are right Lawson. In '61 there was a different mantra
for men and women.
Ram for dudes and Shiriram for chicks
By 69 it shifted to the age based system we know and love, but in a
much more limited form.
The claim
> The claim that MMY gave out only one mantra in the beginning flies
in the face of Paul
> Mason's own publications about how Gurudev explained that certain
mantras were not
> suitable for women, OM, specifically.
>
> Lawson
What was the rationale? Any particular mantras not suitable for men?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "abutilon108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> I think the special sounds
> > business was only important for branding. I thought in the beginning
> > of teaching in India Maharishi only us
> I know when I was a TB I could find a way to justify anything that MMY
> did. I had, or needed to have, blind faith in him. I could come up
> with all kinds of reasons now as well that would preserve MMYs image
> as a perfect, infallible teacher whose every action was calculated to
> bring abou
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
I think the special sounds
> business was only important for branding. I thought in the beginning
> of teaching in India Maharishi only used the mantra Raam? Later the
> articulated system came out which would h
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote:
> >
> > Curtis,
> >
> > Out of my great love for you, I will, henceforth, try to write
worst
> > than you.
> >
> > Edg
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Curtis,
>
> Out of my great love for you, I will, henceforth, try to write worst
> than you.
>
> Edg
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Nabby.
> >
> > Alright Edg,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Some responses:
> "> But that isn't the distinction, at least not the one
> > we were discussing. It's between *names* of personal
> > gods and *mantras* associated with personal gods."
>
> Your comment reminds me of thi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as objectivity, I would say I am as objective as anyone here. We
> all view the world through our own experiences.
Yes, how could anyone ever be completely objective? IMO objectivity
doesn't really exist
Howdy. Yes, the Rabbi's carried the protective mentality to the n'th
degree by creating more and more restrictions, each rationalized as a
protector of the Torah way of life. For example, the law of Kosher
wine does not come about in the Torah. It came about by Rabbinic
decree.
Not sure Adam
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yes, even now I still get confused between Brahma and Brahman.
> Perhaps Brahman is closer to the J conception of God. Maybe.
> There are similarities.
Very strong similarities, particularly in terms
of the Kabbalistic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thought:
>
> there is an assumption within TMO and MMY's teachings
> that using his specific mantra formulations is the ONLY
> trustworthy way of assuring the correct transcendental
> pathway to enlightenment, etc.
That
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Perhaps you would have had better results using his real name.
> Try "yeshua" and see what happens?
I dunno. My reason for choosing "Jesus" was that I
had positive associations with it, whereas I don't
with "Yeshua." (I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
> > ruthsimplicity@ wrote:
> > > The TMO back in the early 70s when I learned TM, cer
Curtis,
Out of my great love for you, I will, henceforth, try to write worst
than you.
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Nabby.
>
> Alright Edg, Mr. #5, I'm gunning for your ass buddy. Here is the
> start of my campaign to impr
On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:45 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
I did ask if anyone was aware of effortless transcending
techniques outside of TM but no clear answer as of yet.
There's been lengthy discussion on this topic before. MMY has stated
that TM is not effortless. It is however very easy and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It reveals that the Children of Israel were easily tempted to
> follow just about anything going, including all the mishigas
> (nonsense) of the Egyptian, Cananite, Phillistine religions.
> They loved 'em all. Like a chi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Yes, even now I still get confused between Brahma and Brahman.
Perhaps
> Brahman is closer to the J conception of God. Maybe. There are
> similarities.
>
> re: Gitaoh, I'd love to get my hands on that.pre
I thought I had read that some time ago.
Thanks.
Fred
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:40 PM, boyboy_8 wrote:
>
> > Thought:
> >
> > there is an assumption within TMO and MMY's teachings that using
his
> > specific mantra formu
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
> ruthsimplicity@ wrote:
>
> > I suppose I could speak more precisely as you clearly value
> > precision.
>
> I think it's particularly important in this contex
Perhaps you would have had better results using his real name.
Try "yeshua" and see what happens?
Fred
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > "I still like my idea that "soun
On Feb 12, 2008, at 3:40 PM, boyboy_8 wrote:
Thought:
there is an assumption within TMO and MMY's teachings that using his
specific mantra formulations is the ONLY trustworthy way of assuring
the correct transcendental pathway to enlightenment, etc.
What happens if there are non-TM mantra-lik
Thought:
there is an assumption within TMO and MMY's teachings that using his
specific mantra formulations is the ONLY trustworthy way of assuring
the correct transcendental pathway to enlightenment, etc.
What happens if there are non-TM mantra-like sounds that can lead the
individual to transc
On Feb 12, 2008, at 2:41 PM, boyboy_8 wrote:
Some responses:
"> But that isn't the distinction, at least not the one
> we were discussing. It's between *names* of personal
> gods and *mantras* associated with personal gods."
Your comment reminds me of this: in J, sometimes we can make use of
o
It reveals that the Children of Israel were easily tempted to follow
just about anything going, including all the mishigas (nonsense) of
the Egyptian, Cananite, Phillistine religions. They loved 'em all.
Like a child in a candy store. "Look but do not touch" was too weak.
It was "Do not look
--OK, true - Enlightenment is part of the Kaballistic teachings, and?
Isn't the idea to reach the "goal" as quickly as possible? There are
2 ways to do this:
1. Accept a faith-based prescription based solely on Scripture
and/or Religious Tradition, or some Authority.
2. Second, rely on no re
Yes, even now I still get confused between Brahma and Brahman. Perhaps
Brahman is closer to the J conception of God. Maybe. There are
similarities.
re: Gitaoh, I'd love to get my hands on that.pretty please?
Fred
[snip]
Some responses:
"> But that isn't the distinction, at least not the one
> we were discussing. It's between *names* of personal
> gods and *mantras* associated with personal gods."
Your comment reminds me of this: in J, sometimes we can make use of
one of God's names as a mantra. It is more hinte
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Nabby.
> >
> > Alright Edg, Mr. #5, I'm gunning for your ass buddy. Here is the
> > start of my campaign to improve my NAB ranking:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Whao, you have hit a few hot buttons for me.
>
> You wrote: "He didn't believe in cultural intermarriage,
> one should marry their own race, or they would fall from Dharma"
>
> What? By openly encouraging Western wome
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> My best friend is a Wilbermaniac. I will ask him
In that same chapter I recommended, BTW, Wilber makes
an argument against the notion of a "path" to the
realization of Brahman, some of it directed against TM
(although h
My best friend is a Wilbermaniac. I will ask him
Fred
[snip]
re does God not
exist, or better yet, where does She?
Jewish is not more nor less godly than shittish or mulish.
- Original Message -
From: "boyboy_8" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 12:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A short list of my grieva
Whao, you have hit a few hot buttons for me.
You wrote: "He didn't believe in cultural intermarriage,
one should marry their own race, or they would fall from Dharma"
What? By openly encouraging Western women to flounce around in
Sari's was his way of supporting them staying within the boundar
I fully accept how you feel. For me I have found my relationship to
J goes up and down. For me it is a lively thing where I deeply
struggle to find my way to another level, another way to cling to
Hashem, to grow closer but also listen to how much I dislike modern
Rabbinic Judaism. I have muc
Dear S (Stu?),
I have a few minutes here at work to try and respond. You are
correct in my view to point out that H and J (Hinduism and Judaism)
both have a caste structure. There is an interesting note a friend
of mine told me (can't recall if he said it was actually an opinion
written in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
wrote:
> >
> > > Soon it'll be "Gotta Get Ruth," because Ruth's cred-
> > > ence and intelligence he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> > Soon it'll be "Gotta Get Ruth," because Ruth's cred-
> > ence and intelligence here on FFL are growing at the
> > same time that Judy's are decreasing.
>
Comment below:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Marek wrote:
> > I've assumed the mantras emerged really early on,
> > some sort of very early-on primate or hominid type
> > of "recognition and appreciation" thing for some
> > triba
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's exactly it. You and Curtis have a similar
> vibe and intent in my opinion, marked by the fact
> that neither of you ever tries to assert that your
> view of things is "right" or "correct." You never
> try to SELL
Vaj wrote:
> > All the TM mantras have many meanings in similar ways.
> >
Judy wrote:
> But not *semantic* meanings. That's what people
> are asking about when they ask whether the mantras
> have meanings.
>
The *bija mantra* has no semantic meaning. The other phrases
are Sanskrit words - namah and
Vaj wrote:
> Sometimes, yes. For example, a typical TM mantra is the
> bija of Lakshmi, is an epiphet of Lakshmi: "Shree" + the
> "terminator" letters, the chandra and the bindu, -- the
> sound "ing" -- which is the part that pulls the mind into
> no-thought, the calm state, the transcendent. B
> > Judy wrote:
> > > Jeepers, Curtis, it's been around for *millennia*.
> > > The idea that specific sounds have specific effects
> > > is just about ubiquitous in ancient cultures.
> > >
Richard J. Williams wrote:
> > According to Mircea Eliade, the first mention of yogic
> > meditation in Indi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Nabby.
>
> Alright Edg, Mr. #5, I'm gunning for your ass buddy. Here is the
> start of my campaign to improve my NAB ranking:
>
> I just want to announce that on behalf of all the Rajas, we are
> prep
e why the
women thought he was the son of God.
- Original Message -
From: "nablusoss1008" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A short list of my grievances with the movement
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
> >
> > Hey Geez...remember only a few days back
> > when I predicted that you would be next
> > on Judy's "Gotta Get" list?
> >
> > Was I right, or what?
>
Thanks Nabby.
Alright Edg, Mr. #5, I'm gunning for your ass buddy. Here is the
start of my campaign to improve my NAB ranking:
I just want to announce that on behalf of all the Rajas, we are
preparing the earth for Lord Maitreya to return as predicted by our
beloved Mr. Benjamin Creme, through
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> He rolls back into India one last time to die,
Er, no, he was already dead when he was rolled back
into India.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk"
wrote:
> >
> > > My point? Both prop dictators, for the supposed love of
stability,
> > on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
> wrote:
> >
> > Judy wrote:
> > > Jeepers, Curtis, it's been around for *millennia*.
> > > The idea that specific sounds have specific effects
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
wrote:
> >
> > > ALL other spiritual teachings were lesser than
> > > his. ALL of them. ALL other
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
wrote:
> > > > > (As
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I picked "Jesus" to use instead of the mantra
> because my heritage was Christian, although I
> wasn't a believer. But I had always approved
> of Jesus, even had a certain amount of
> reverence for him, so I thought th
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote:
>
> > ALL other spiritual teachings were lesser than
> > his. ALL of them. ALL other techniques of medi-
> > tation or spiritual development were lesser than
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" wrote:
>
> > My point? Both prop dictators, for the supposed love of stability,
> one of
> > America, at the expense of good karma and the rest of the planet, the
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ALL other spiritual teachings were lesser than
> his. ALL of them. ALL other techniques of medi-
> tation or spiritual development were lesser than
> TM. Not ONE of the others was on the same level
> as TM and his teachi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My point? Both prop dictators, for the supposed love of stability,
one of
> America, at the expense of good karma and the rest of the planet, the
other
> at the expense of good taste and refined sentiment.
Forgot about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Judy wrote:
> > Jeepers, Curtis, it's been around for *millennia*.
> > The idea that specific sounds have specific effects
> > is just about ubiquitous in ancient cultures.
> >
> According to Mircea Eliade,
> But it didn't work.
>
This experience is different from Maharishi's claim that using other
words can work but they will have negative consequences on the more
subtle levels. According to him you can transcend on any word. You
might have just needed a Jesus checking! The mental conflict that
w
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You were told not to say your
> > > mantra out loud or to tell it to anyo
TurquoiseB wrote:
> I taught classes to hundreds of people, NEVER
> using a "puja" or any other tradition form of
> "initiation." When the meditation involved a
> mantra (not all of the techniques did), the
> mantras were NOT the TM mantras, and were simply
> spoken aloud to a group of people in
Judy wrote:
> Jeepers, Curtis, it's been around for *millennia*.
> The idea that specific sounds have specific effects
> is just about ubiquitous in ancient cultures.
>
According to Mircea Eliade, the first mention of yogic
meditation in India was made by the historical Buddha (circa
400 BC). N
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak"
> > wrote:
> > You're more than welcome to show *how* they're
> > quite weak. One strike so far.
Marek wrote:
> I've assumed the mantras emerged really early on,
> some sort of very early-on primate or hominid type
> of "recognition and appreciation" thing for some
> tribal/family sound; some kind of "eureka" moment
> among early hominids that caught on, something with
> emotional staying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > "I still like my idea that "sounds whose effects
> > > are known" refe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > It's like Maharishi going nudge-nudge to his
> > fellow Indians and saying, "See? They really
> > ARE as stupid and gullible as we always thought
> > they were."
>
> -No offense, but that's getting to be a trite obse
"Maharishi was more like the Taliban in mental makeup than anything else."
The vigilance committee member knocking on your door at 10:00 to see
if anything was wrong that you light was still on.
Excommunicating the teacher in Gainesville Fl for living with her
boyfriend.
You nailed it!
--
> The thing is:
I wonder who this sounds like...
The process of Transcendental Meditation is a process of
> transcending thought...
New info for this group no doubt.
> There are all kinds of ways to transcend thought: excersize, music,
> whatever you 'lose' yourself in...
> Specifically the
being.
- Original Message -
From: Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A short list of my grievances with the
movement
On Feb 12, 2008, at 7:04 AM, hugheshugo wrote:
I'm so glad you chose my
It's like Maharishi going nudge-nudge to his
> fellow Indians and saying, "See? They really
> ARE as stupid and gullible as we always thought
> they were."
-No offense, but that's getting to be a trite observation. We do know
that Maharishi above all else liked dignity. He liked to feel he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
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> > That Ruth can really lay it down, can't she Curtis? She's become my
> favorite writer > herebumping you from the top peg wasn't easy
> brother!
>
> I was a fan from her first posts here! I don't mind bein
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I was a fan from her first posts here! I don't mind being "bumped' by
> her...er...well...you know what I mean!
Two in a row. I can't take this.
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yah
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak"
> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > > > (As a courtesy to the TBs, I removed my sarcasm that was
> > > > inserted here
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wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > I didn't say that. I haven't discussed
> > the advanced techniques
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ruthsimplicity"
> wrote:
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> > You were told not to say your
> > mantra out loud or to tell it to anyone. It was special.
>
> This last is pretty standard with mantra meditat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
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> > When you think of it the sidhis introduce a bunch of new
> > sounds that aren't in the Vedic tradition to the subtlest
> > levels, English isn
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boyboy_8 wrote:
> > >
> >
> > > Sp
(snip)
> > I can speak only from my own experience, but shortly
> > after I learned TM, I experimented using "Jesus" as
> > my mantra, with disappointing results.
>
>
> I wonder about this too. It seems that "pretty" sounds are used. My
> mother had a very lovely unusual name with lots of long
On Feb 12, 2008, at 7:44 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Curtis and Judy, very interesting exchange. My plan was to
leave this
> > place when I had my thoughts straightened out, but exchanges
like this
> > have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> When you think of it the sidhis introduce a bunch of new sounds that
> aren't in the Vedic tradition to the subtlest levels, English isn't in
> the tradition. If what he claimed was true the sidhis use would be
On Feb 12, 2008, at 7:04 AM, hugheshugo wrote:
I'm so glad you chose my mantra to illustrate that, I've often
wondered where it came from. Trouble is, according to MMY if you know
the meaning of the mantra it won't work, I'll let you know later if
that's the case ;-)
I think this whole siddhi/
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