[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-07 Thread merudanda
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: All anyone has to do is read the relevant passage. Obviously you haven't read the book, so, I don't know why you're opening your pie hole

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-07 Thread WillyTex
merudanda: Sad to say, but Barry's description of her fits all insider movement reaction toward her. So don't shoot the messenger, please... My point was that John Lennon was a liar, he told many lies about the Maharishi, about Nancy, and about her son Rick and about Mia Farrow. Lennon

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-03 Thread WillyTex
When in fact, Rick Cooke, a noted National Geographic photographer, and a professed vegetarian, shot a crazed tiger from the seat of an elephant, that had attacked a tour guide who was on foot. Curtis: The legal council for the tiger would like me to object to his client being

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread Vaj
On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Speaking as the only person here who seems to have actually *met* Nancy Cooke de Herrera and her son Rick Cooke, my impression when the song came out shortly after I met and interacted with them was that the Beatles just *nailed* it. *Especially*

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Excellent naildown guys. I thought some post tiger hunting spin doctoring was involved. Speaking as the only person here who seems to have actually *met* Nancy Cooke de

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread WillyTex
or at least read the book. I would love to but it is too much for a used one on Amazon. Joe: Willy's having a bad day obviously. Who says they've read Nancy's book, Joe? Besides, his name was not on the approved list of TM Teachers when I was at Rishikesh And that has

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread WillyTex
National Geographic photographers don't usually go on 'tiger hunts', Curtis. But they do often take shots of all kinds of wild animals with cameras. Curtis: And they never end up with a dead tiger at the end and a guilty conscience they have to discuss with a Maharishis do they?

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Because I read the book - Turq, Curtis, and Joe have not so, I know what Nancy wrote in the book, and that now I know that John Lennon was a liar, just like his wife Cynthia wrote in her book? I heard her speak about it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: or at least read the book. I would love to but it is too much for a used one on Amazon. Joe: Willy's having a bad day obviously. Who says they've read Nancy's book, Joe? Besides, his name was

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread WillyTex
Because I read the book - Turq, Curtis, and Joe have not so, I know what Nancy wrote in the book, and that now I know that John Lennon was a liar, just like his wife Cynthia wrote in her book? And that Turg, Joe, and Curtis are liars too. Joe: Oh I've read the book... Maybe

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: I heard her speak about it. That was enough to know the story doesn't hold up. Quote the book if you think it will help so much but stop holding it out as some definitive statement of fact... I would

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread WillyTex
All anyone has to do is read the relevant passage. Obviously you haven't read the book, so, I don't know why you're opening your pie hole about Rick Cooke and the tiger episode. What's up with that? Joe: You're really into pie holes today aren't you? Why do almost all of your

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread WillyTex
...I know what Nancy wrote in the book, and that now I know that John Lennon was a liar. And that Turg, Joe, and Curtis are liars too... Curtis: Now that's just nasty. Name calling doesn't advance your case but it doesn't diminish the discussion... I'm sorry, Curtis, I din't

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: All anyone has to do is read the relevant passage. Obviously you haven't read the book, so, I don't know why you're opening your pie hole about Rick Cooke and the tiger episode. What's up with that?

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread WillyTex
Curtis: I heard her speak about it. That was enough to know the story doesn't hold up. Quote the book if you think it will help so much but stop holding it out as some definitive statement of fact... TurquoiseB: ...if their definition of fact is It's in a book, then Frederick

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Because I read the book - Turq, Curtis, and Joe have not so, I know what Nancy wrote in the book, and that now I know that John Lennon was a liar, just like his wife Cynthia wrote in her book? And that

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: ...I know what Nancy wrote in the book, and that now I know that John Lennon was a liar. And that Turg, Joe, and Curtis are liars too... Curtis: Now that's just nasty. Name calling doesn't advance your

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: ...I know what Nancy wrote in the book, and that now I know that John Lennon was a liar. And that Turg, Joe, and Curtis are liars too... Curtis: Now that's just nasty. Name calling doesn't advance

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: ...I know what Nancy wrote in the book, and that now I know that John Lennon was a liar. And that Turg, Joe, and Curtis are liars too...

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread WillyTex
Why would anyone believe an anonymous poster calling himself 'Joe', who holds a grudge for years against someone simply because they happen to live in Texas? Joe: You are correct about my prejudice against Texans. I used to love going to Austin, hanging out at the music clubs

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread WillyTex
According to Sal, the TMO is full of 'nut-cases'. If so, then there's no need to make stuff up about going to a yoga camp just so you can shoot a tiger, right? Curtis: She needed to change the story to make it sound more sympathetic because it made them look bad. Pretty common

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Why would anyone believe an anonymous poster calling himself 'Joe', who holds a grudge for years against someone simply because they happen to live in Texas? Joe: You are correct about my prejudice against

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-02 Thread curtisdeltablues
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: When in fact, Rick Cooke, a noted National Geographic photographer, and a professed vegetarian, shot a crazed tiger from the seat of an elephant, that had attacked a tour guide who was on foot. The legal council for the

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread WillyTex
Vaj: an hour-long interview made in 2003 with Nancy Cooke de Herrera in which she talks about the India TTC that the Beatles attended and dispells some of the rumors from that course. http://tinyurl.com/yfprvbv You mean, like the rumor you started about Mia Farrow and Mahesh and how

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2010, at 11:17 AM, WillyTex wrote: Vaj: an hour-long interview made in 2003 with Nancy Cooke de Herrera in which she talks about the India TTC that the Beatles attended and dispells some of the rumors from that course. http://tinyurl.com/yfprvbv You mean, like the rumor you

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread WillyTex
Vaj: I don't believe she mentioned the fact that Mahesh was a primary suspect in the murder of Guru Dev... Maybe that's because Guru Dev wasn't murdered, and because Mahesh was never a suspect? If Guru Dev was murdered, you'd expect to read something about it in the Times of India -

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 1, 2010, at 11:17 AM, WillyTex wrote: Vaj: an hour-long interview made in 2003 with Nancy Cooke de Herrera in which she talks about the India TTC that the Beatles attended and dispells some of the rumors

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread BillyG
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: From off-list: Could you post the following link to FFL...it's an hour-long interview made in 2003 with Nancy Cooke de Herrera in which she talks about the India TTC that the Beatles attended and dispells some of the rumors

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
This was a real gem Vaj, nice find. About the tiger hunt story: When an American (her son) is on an elephant going into the jungle where tigers are, with a gun in his hand, it IS a tiger hunt. If the idea was it was a stroll through the jungle on elephants and you needed guns to protect the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2010, at 1:10 PM, WillyTex wrote: Vaj: I don't believe she mentioned the fact that Mahesh was a primary suspect in the murder of Guru Dev... Maybe that's because Guru Dev wasn't murdered, and because Mahesh was never a suspect? If Guru Dev was murdered, you'd expect to read

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2010, at 12:47 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote: Funny how any time a guru gets sick or dies, foul play is inevitably suggested as the cause. Here's a list of gurus off the top of my head which fit that category: Osho (Rajneesh) Swami Prubapada (Hari Krishna) Guru Dev Maharishi (the orange

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 1, 2010, at 12:47 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote: Funny how any time a guru gets sick or dies, foul play is inevitably suggested as the cause. Here's a list of gurus off the top of my head which fit that category:

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread WillyTex
If Guru Dev was murdered, you'd expect to read something about it in the Times of India - these kinds of nasty rumors don't usually get ignored by the Indian Press! Or, in at least one of the critical biographies about Mahesh. Vaj: Those who were there knew he was poisoned. There

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 1, 2010, at 1:34 PM, Vaj wrote: Funny how any time a guru gets sick or dies, foul play is inevitably suggested as the cause. Here's a list of gurus off the top of my head which fit that category: Osho (Rajneesh) Swami Prubapada (Hari Krishna) Guru Dev Maharishi (the orange

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Mar 1, 2010, at 1:10 PM, WillyTex wrote: snip If Guru Dev was murdered, you'd expect to read something about it in the Times of India - these kinds of nasty rumors don't usually get ignored by the Indian Press! Or, in

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread WillyTex
Curtis: About the tiger hunt story: When an American (her son) is on an elephant going into the jungle where tigers are, with a gun in his hand, it IS a tiger hunt. Who said they were going on a 'tiger hunt', Curtis? If the idea was it was a stroll through the jungle on elephants

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Curtis: About the tiger hunt story: When an American (her son) is on an elephant going into the jungle where tigers are, with a gun in his hand, it IS a tiger hunt. Who said they were going on a 'tiger hunt',

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread WillyTex
Who said they were going on a 'tiger hunt'... Curtis: Me. Even if it's against the law to shoot tigers in a public park? You're not making any sense, Curtis. I think the least likely guy to be given a gun would be the new guy from another country unless it was a tiger hunt. Who

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Who said they were going on a 'tiger hunt'... Curtis: Me. Even if it's against the law to shoot tigers in a public park? You're not making any sense, Curtis. Then you have not been to India and this was when?

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: None of these were present at Guru Dev's untimely death. So, I guess you started the rumor. But why would you make stuff up like that? It says more about you, than it does about Mahesh. You haven't presented any known

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willy...@... wrote: Curtis: About the tiger hunt story: When an American (her son) is on an elephant going into the jungle where tigers are, with a gun in his hand, it IS a tiger hunt. Who said they were going on a 'tiger

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote: Who said they were going on a 'tiger hunt'... Curtis: Me. Even if it's against the law to shoot tigers in a public

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2010, at 3:11 PM, ShempMcGurk wrote: Well, he must have been doing something right because he died at -- what? -- 91 or 92? That's a pretty good run in my book. the point I was trying to make was that poisoning seemed to be an excuse, often an unsubstantiated one, for what

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Curtis, Willy's having a bad day obviously. Besides, his name was not on the approved list of TM Teachers when I was at Rishikesh so I don't know why he's feeling all high and mighty today. Go figure. There is always a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread Vaj
On Mar 1, 2010, at 7:45 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe geezerfr...@... wrote: Curtis, Willy's having a bad day obviously. Besides, his name was not on the approved list of TM Teachers when I was at Rishikesh so I don't know why he's feeling all

[FairfieldLife] Re: An interview with Nancy Cooke de Herrera including the India TTC

2010-03-01 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Lennon-McCartney doesn't exactly celebrate him, although I always admired the Sabicas riff at the intro: HE went out tiger hunting with his elephant and gun In case of accidents he always took his mum He's the all American