Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Share Long
dear RaunchyD, thank you so much for posting that wonderful ad for Bounty paper 
towels.  You and Ann facilitated my laughing aloud 

Still quantum lightweaving today until 5.  



 From: raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:47 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ 
   wrote:
   
Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital. 
   
   It's pretty scary, isn't it?
  
  Everybody's crazy but me and thee, Samanthy, and sometimes
  I think even thee is a little strange.
 
 Jesus, I go to Vancouver for 8 hours I'm sitting on the ferry and take a peek 
 at FFL and all hell has broken loose.  Now will you all get back in your 
 cages and  stop terrorizing the orderlies. This is the last time I leave you 
 all unattended and AZ, we need to have a talk. There's a law against 
 plagiarism and inciting the loonies to riot. Now settle down, I'll figure out 
 all of your punishments tomorrow. (this has not been easy typing this on a 
 damn iPhone by the way.)


http://youtu.be/ryZky0y4ERg


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  On 08/18/2012 05:42 PM, authfriend wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   On 08/18/2012 11:33 AM, authfriend wrote:
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ 
   wrote:
   So, it's all about Robin.
   Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
   about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
   how many others do.
  
   Well gee Willy, I guess if Judy sez that it must be true.
   That despite the fact that the post I quoted had the word
   Robin in it some 47 times. Guess Judy must have read it
   as Tobin (or did she read it at all)? :-D
  
   Somehow I don't think az expected that Bhairitu would be
   one of the folks who would fall for the gag, but I could
   have told az he might, given his propensity to believe in
   nutty conspiracy theories.
  
   Still, it's hard to fathom how anybody with two brain cells
   to rub together could have read even just the first
   paragraph and thought it was about Robin. Heck, the second
   sentence in the first paragraph should have been enough to
   clue folks in that something wasn't kosher, even if their
   reading skills were so deficient as to prevent them from
   being able to decode Robin's message.
  
   The real stunner, however, is Bhairitu's claim above, that
   the appearance of Robin's name in the post is enough to
   demonstrate that it's about Robin.
  
   I mean, it boggles the mind. You just wouldn't expect that
   kind of stupidity from someone who had managed to make a
   solid career for themselves. A few highlights:
  
   Bhairitu found employment as a musician at various clubs in the Village, 
   as well as earning acting roles in film. His made his debut on the silver 
   screen in Abel Ferrara's China Girl, for which he also wrote the 
   end-credit song Midnight. Bhairitu went on to collaborate with Ferrara 
   on several film and music projects, including: Bad Lieutenant, in which 
   Bhairitu played Jesus Christ and co-wrote the end-credits song; Body 
   Snatchers, which featured the song I Want You Back; and The Funeral, 
   which saw Bhairitu co-starring with Christopher Walken, Isabella 
   Rosselini, Benicio del Toro and Vincent Gallo.
  
   Bhairitu then co-starred in the off-Broadway show A Minor Incident with 
   legendary songwriter Carole King, who was making her stage debut in the 
   play. The two collaborated on songs for her Capitol Records release City 
   Streets, including the song I Can't Stop Thinking About You, which 
   Bhairitu co-wrote and plays guitar and performs backing vocals on. It was 
   on stage with Carole King at London's Royal Albert Hall that Bhairitu was 
   spotted by the producers of a new West End musical Buddy: The Buddy Holly 
   Story.
  
   Buddy opened to rave reviews on 12 October 1989, at The Victoria Palace 
   Theater. Bhairitu's turn in the title role of Buddy Holly earned him a 
   nomination for the Laurence Olivier Award for Outstanding Performance by 
   an Actor in a Musical. The following year, Buddy at Broadway's Shubert 
   Theater in New York, and Bhairitu was nominated for a Tony Award for his 
   performance, as well as winning the Theater World Award for Best Broadway 
   Debut.
  
   After Buddy, Bhairitu appeared in the films Fathers  Sons, with Jeff 
   Goldblum, and as Jesus Christ opposite Harvey Keitel in Abel Ferrara's 
   Bad Lieutenant, for which he also performed and co-wrote the title song, 
   Bad Lieutenant with Ferrara. Bhairitu also appeared as Gene Vincent 
   opposite Donal Logue (as Eddie Cochran) in the play Be-Bop-A-Lula at 
   Hollywood's famed Theater/Theater before returning to the London stage 
   for the 25th anniversary revival of Hair at the Old Vic, in the role of 
   Berger.
  
  That might have been a fun career but it wasn't mine.
 
 Your name appears in it 11 times (it's much shorter than az's
 post).
 
  I don't know of anyone really named Bhairitu.
 
 It originally said Barry, but I replaced it with Bhairitu
 because that's the name you use here.
 
 snip 
  Judy goes further into the ozone.  Here is the first paragraph
  she is talking about:
  
  Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his incoherent 
  message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of 
  television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was chosen 
  by God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to brass 
  tacks: It is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise and 
  focus solely on his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but forces 
  his underlings to make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, Robin's 
  underlings don't much seem to mind being given such querulous orders. I 
  guess it's hard to free chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from the 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno, dear 
 Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind, utterly 
 threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a 
 dilemma?

Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I was 
speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute what he says.

 Having said I did find dumbaz's gags very funny, laughing loud reading 
 another one his posts, the one Share responded to, while waiting for my 
 dinner order here at a restaurant. That these morons are so stuck in their 
 heads is really sad - they could have just had fun, come with witty 
 responses, retorts but all we have is their repugnant prejudices exposed in 
 such a pathetic fashion. 
 
 It always baffles me when I see people taking Xeno's mental constructs so 
 seriously and I know I have always been curious on how he interacts with 
 normal people in his daily life, I have asked him before and all I got was 
 more mental constructs.

Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when I say anything it is 
presented as a mental construct. There is no way to speak without a mental 
constuct. Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental construct' is a 
mental construct. And there is no daily life interaction on FFL, no interaction 
with normal people, there is only the symbolic structure of language rolling 
back and forth, so all I get from you, from, Judy, from Barry, etc., are mental 
constructs. Then one has to make something of those with what one has, and 
reply using one's own particular mental construct.

You operate from the level of your gut perhaps more than anyone here. I do 
operate that way sometimes, but it is much more subdued especially compared to 
you, if I interpret the text you write here. It was perhaps that over-emotional 
style of yours that gets you booted off here at times. The human mind creates a 
world, and the separate worlds of human interaction do not line up in neat 
coherent rows. As I am like a separate alien universe to you, so you are to me, 
when comparing our mental styles. Our emotional palettes are vastly different.

Azgrey's post(s) were rather interesting assaults on Robin. I felt the general 
tenor of the content somewhat appropriate, considering some of the other posts 
in a similar vein that were more direct, and based on those persons' having 
known Robin. Robin has the intellectual kutzpah to deal with that post. Judy 
was correct in that I cannot quite fathom Robin, but I am not sure she does 
either. I feel Judy is always down in the trenches, logically precise, but does 
not see the general sweep of the battle. I used to think in ways a lot like 
Judy. I was, and still am probably in a different way, insufferable. Judy does 
it with a scope and precision I could never have mustered. It takes too much 
energy.

And how I interact with normal people in my daily life, well, that is a deep 
deep secret of the universe, hidden from the eyes of dear dear Ravi.

 Love,
 Ravi




[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
   So, it's all about Robin.
  
  Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
  about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
  how many others do.
 
Bhairitu:
 Well gee Willy, I guess if Judy sez that it must be true. 

So, now it's all about Judy. LoL! 

 That despite the fact that the post I quoted had the word 
 Robin in it some 47 times.  Guess Judy must have read it 
 as Tobin (or did she read it at all)? :-D

So, Judy fell down the rabbit hole again, but we got fooled?



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Richard J. Williams
authfriend:
 Bhairitu found employment as a musician at various clubs 
 in the Village...

So, now it's all about 'Bhairitu'. LoL!

, as well as earning acting roles in film. His made his debut on the silver 
screen in Abel Ferrara's China Girl, for which he also wrote the end-credit 
song Midnight. Bhairitu went on to collaborate with Ferrara on several film 
and music projects, including: Bad Lieutenant, in which Bhairitu played Jesus 
Christ and co-wrote the end-credits song; Body Snatchers, which featured the 
song I Want You Back; and The Funeral, which saw Bhairitu co-starring with 
Christopher Walken, Isabella Rosselini, Benicio del Toro and Vincent Gallo.
 
 Bhairitu then co-starred in the off-Broadway show A Minor Incident with 
 legendary songwriter Carole King, who was making her stage debut in the play. 
 The two collaborated on songs for her Capitol Records release City Streets, 
 including the song I Can't Stop Thinking About You, which Bhairitu co-wrote 
 and plays guitar and performs backing vocals on. It was on stage with Carole 
 King at London's Royal Albert Hall that Bhairitu was spotted by the producers 
 of a new West End musical Buddy: The Buddy Holly Story.
 
 Buddy opened to rave reviews on 12 October 1989, at The Victoria Palace 
 Theater. Bhairitu's turn in the title role of Buddy Holly earned him a 
 nomination for the Laurence Olivier Award for Outstanding Performance by an 
 Actor in a Musical. The following year, Buddy at Broadway's Shubert Theater 
 in New York, and Bhairitu was nominated for a Tony Award for his performance, 
 as well as winning the Theater World Award for Best Broadway Debut.
 
 After Buddy, Bhairitu appeared in the films Fathers  Sons, with Jeff 
 Goldblum, and as Jesus Christ opposite Harvey Keitel in Abel Ferrara's Bad 
 Lieutenant, for which he also performed and co-wrote the title song, Bad 
 Lieutenant with Ferrara. Bhairitu also appeared as Gene Vincent opposite 
 Donal Logue (as Eddie Cochran) in the play Be-Bop-A-Lula at Hollywood's famed 
 Theater/Theater before returning to the London stage for the 25th anniversary 
 revival of Hair at the Old Vic, in the role of Berger.





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when 
 I say anything it is presented as a mental construct. 
 There is no way to speak without a mental constuct. 
 Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental 
 construct' is a mental construct. And there is no 
 daily life interaction on FFL, no interaction with 
 normal people, there is only the symbolic structure 
 of language rolling back and forth, so all I get 
 from you, from, Judy, from Barry, etc., are mental 
 constructs. Then one has to make something of those 
 with what one has, and reply using one's own 
 particular mental construct.

Exactly. 

Believing that what you believe equals truth is
the disease of Narcissism, not the onset of
Enlightenment.





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Richard J. Williams


  You haven't made any kind of case against Robin here.
  All you've done is slung insults, and you've done it 
  sloppily and dishonestly to boot. It's really beneath 
  you...
  
Ravi Chivukula:  
 It always baffles me when I see people taking Xeno's 
 mental constructs so seriously and I know I have always 
 been curious on how he interacts with normal people in 
 his daily life...
 
Who says Xeno interacts with normal people in his daily 
life? You've got at least ten posting here anonymously, 
several of whom make TMer status claims. Who said their
brother was a TMO Raja? LoL! So, what's it all about?



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Richard J. Williams


Bhairitu:
 I guess once a cult leader always a cult 
 leader...

Well, I gues it depends on how you define 
'cult'.

Robert J. Lifton:

Meditation, in itself, is not good or bad. 
But when a venal person wants to sell you 
courses and persuade you to turn over your 
life to him, you must beware. 

If you end up a slave to a money-making 
power-seeking organization that pays no heed 
to the real difficulties you may experience 
as a result of certain practices, that is a 
bad use of those powerful practices. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ wrote:
 
  OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno, dear 
  Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind, utterly 
  threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a 
  dilemma?
 
 Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I was 
 speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute what he 
 says.

Right. You accused him of not making sense, of being deceptive,
and of using the concept of first-person ontology to divide
and conquer. All without providing a single example.

snip
 Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when I say
 anything it is presented as a mental construct.

One has an obligation, however, IMHO, to ensure that the
mental constructs one presents are created with integrity,
and that they are as clear, fair, and accurate as one can
possibly make them. That these constructs are not Absolute
Truth does not relieve one from the responsibility of 
maintaining intellectual honesty.

snip
 Azgrey's post(s) were rather interesting assaults on Robin. I felt the 
 general tenor of the content somewhat appropriate, considering some of the 
 other posts in a similar vein that were more direct, and based on those 
 persons' having known Robin. Robin has the intellectual kutzpah to deal with 
 that post.

There was nothing to be dealt with in those posts other than
to point out that they were pastiches of remarks made by
other writers about other people in other circumstances, with
Robin's name repeatedly spliced in; and that the vast majority
of these remarks did not, in fact, apply to Robin.

They were at best a mildly amusing gag at Robin's expense,
hardly qualifying as interesting assaults on Robin in
any other sense.

 Judy was correct in that I cannot quite fathom Robin, but I
 am not sure she does either. I feel Judy is always down in
 the trenches, logically precise, but does not see the general
 sweep of the battle.

Judy deals with what's in the trenches because far too often,
inaccurate, misleading, and/or dishonest reports from the
trenches result in a seriously distorted picture of the 
general sweep of the battle.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Oh my cold, heartless Xeno,

It's unfortunate that you can't see how utterly immobilized you are by your
mental constructs, by your beliefs - indeed this is why Robin cleans your
clock every single time, albeit in his  own way, gently, persistently
reminding of how far your mental constructs, beliefs keep you away from
reality, you are a sitting duck - I feel pity for you petty, vain minds
suffering from incorrigible, contagious form of IED (Intellectual
Enlightenment Disorder).

Look at this interaction I had with a one Dr. Conway on Ammachi free speech
list, as soon as I read him, I chuckled - I realized this was another case
of IED that's been a scourge of this nation - and that he should be a piece
of cake for me to handle, like Xeno

I baited him -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7341

He feel hook, line and sinker -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7342

I decimated him (last few paras) -
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7368

Poor bastard - I haven't heard back from him - probably retreated to the
safety and solace of his neo-advaita brethren.

As it stands now Robin  I have disagreements on what Enlightenment is and
I will not allow sickly, delirious patients of IED such as yourself to
muddy the waters here.

I'll come hard at you Xeno - every single time, at my fancy, at my pleasure.

Because unlike your mental constructs such as this gem here - I do find
Ravi particularly annoying, but I have the choice (in free-will terms) to
ignore him ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301358) -
I don't live in my head.

I love you baby.

Ravi.


On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno, dear
 Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind, utterly
 threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a
 dilemma?

 Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I
 was speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute what
 he says.


  Having said I did find dumbaz's gags very funny, laughing loud reading
 another one his posts, the one Share responded to, while waiting for my
 dinner order here at a restaurant. That these morons are so stuck in their
 heads is really sad - they could have just had fun, come with witty
 responses, retorts but all we have is their repugnant prejudices exposed in
 such a pathetic fashion.
 
  It always baffles me when I see people taking Xeno's mental constructs
 so seriously and I know I have always been curious on how he interacts with
 normal people in his daily life, I have asked him before and all I got was
 more mental constructs.

 Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when I say anything it is
 presented as a mental construct. There is no way to speak without a mental
 constuct. Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental construct' is a
 mental construct. And there is no daily life interaction on FFL, no
 interaction with normal people, there is only the symbolic structure of
 language rolling back and forth, so all I get from you, from, Judy, from
 Barry, etc., are mental constructs. Then one has to make something of those
 with what one has, and reply using one's own particular mental construct.

 You operate from the level of your gut perhaps more than anyone here. I do
 operate that way sometimes, but it is much more subdued especially compared
 to you, if I interpret the text you write here. It was perhaps that
 over-emotional style of yours that gets you booted off here at times. The
 human mind creates a world, and the separate worlds of human interaction do
 not line up in neat coherent rows. As I am like a separate alien universe
 to you, so you are to me, when comparing our mental styles. Our emotional
 palettes are vastly different.

 Azgrey's post(s) were rather interesting assaults on Robin. I felt the
 general tenor of the content somewhat appropriate, considering some of the
 other posts in a similar vein that were more direct, and based on those
 persons' having known Robin. Robin has the intellectual kutzpah to deal
 with that post. Judy was correct in that I cannot quite fathom Robin, but I
 am not sure she does either. I feel Judy is always down in the trenches,
 logically precise, but does not see the general sweep of the battle. I used
 to think in ways a lot like Judy. I was, and still am probably in a
 different way, insufferable. Judy does it with a scope and precision I
 could never have mustered. It takes too much energy.

 And how I interact with normal people in my daily life, well, that is a
 deep deep secret of the universe, hidden from the eyes of dear dear Ravi.

  Love,
  Ravi

  



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
  Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when 
  I say anything it is presented as a mental construct. 
  There is no way to speak without a mental constuct. 
  Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental 
  construct' is a mental construct. And there is no 
  daily life interaction on FFL, no interaction with 
  normal people, there is only the symbolic structure 
  of language rolling back and forth, so all I get 
  from you, from, Judy, from Barry, etc., are mental 
  constructs. Then one has to make something of those 
  with what one has, and reply using one's own 
  particular mental construct.
 
 Exactly. 
 
 Believing that what you believe equals truth is
 the disease of Narcissism, not the onset of
 Enlightenment.

http://tinyurl.com/csuezw3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvoPLHIkYw




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Robin Carlsen maskedze...@yahoo.comwrote:

 **




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
 anartaxius@ wrote:
  
   Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when
   I say anything it is presented as a mental construct.
   There is no way to speak without a mental constuct.
   Saying 'there is no way to speak without a mental
   construct' is a mental construct. And there is no
   daily life interaction on FFL, no interaction with
   normal people, there is only the symbolic structure
   of language rolling back and forth, so all I get
   from you, from, Judy, from Barry, etc., are mental
   constructs. Then one has to make something of those
   with what one has, and reply using one's own
   particular mental construct.
 
  Exactly.
 
  Believing that what you believe equals truth is
  the disease of Narcissism, not the onset of
  Enlightenment.

 http://tinyurl.com/csuezw3

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvoPLHIkYw



This is awesome - thanks for the link, I will watch the whole thing -
here's one of the gems I liked - *Is she pretty? She behaves as if she
were beautiful, all American women do, it's the secret of their charm *:-)


[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 Oh my cold, heartless Xeno,
 
 It's unfortunate that you can't see how utterly immobilized you are by your
 mental constructs, by your beliefs - indeed this is why Robin cleans your
 clock every single time, albeit in his own way, gently, persistently
 reminding of how far your mental constructs, beliefs keep you away from
 reality, you are a sitting duck - I feel pity for you petty, vain minds
 suffering from incorrigible, contagious form of IED (Intellectual
 Enlightenment Disorder).

Your humility, Ravi, is overpowering.

 Look at this interaction I had with a one Dr. Conway on Ammachi free speech
 list, as soon as I read him, I chuckled - I realized this was another case
 of IED that's been a scourge of this nation - and that he should be a piece
 of cake for me to handle, like Xeno
 
 I baited him -
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7341
 
 He feel hook, line and sinker -
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7342
 
 I decimated him (last few paras) -
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7368
 
 Poor bastard - I haven't heard back from him - probably retreated to the
 safety and solace of his neo-advaita brethren.
 
 As it stands now Robin  I have disagreements on what Enlightenment is and
 I will not allow sickly, delirious patients of IED such as yourself to
 muddy the waters here.

This is a nice, clear statement. What do you feel the points are upon which you 
disagree with Robin? And, if I muddy the waters here, as long as Rick and Alex 
let me be on this forum, I could muddy the waters as much as desired. But being 
cold and heartless, how much do you think I could really stir up?
 
 I'll come hard at you Xeno - every single time, at my fancy, at my pleasure.
 
 Because unlike your mental constructs such as this gem here - I do find
 Ravi particularly annoying, but I have the choice (in free-will terms) to
 ignore him ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301358) -
 I don't live in my head.

As for the 'gem' above, that was written shortly before you were outed from 
here, and I did experience annoyance at your antics. The statement about free 
will was not entirely serious as I do not really believe in free will; I used 
the words because that is how I think most people experience choice, that is 
why the comment was in parentheses.

Stating that you do not live in your head and are minus mental constructs does 
not meant that is true, I firmly hold that it is not possible to express 
yourself in language without mental concepts. You used the concept 'I' several 
times. You listed many of your accomplishments in decimating others' arguments;

*I baited him.
*he fell hook, line, and sinker
*I decimated him

Simple verbal abuse is not independent of concepts, and it does not require 
much intelligence either, you are being lazy. Maybe your work requires a lot of 
mental energy, and when you come here, it is easier not to think but to 
mindlessly emote. Seven months in the offline FFL cooler has not reduced your 
temperature much. But as you come back, you must like it here. Welcome.

Mental constructs are a partial value of experience, they have a certain place. 
Experience has a more unbounded aspect, a more silent aspect. Even emotions are 
similar to mental constructs, they are more primitive and less focused than the 
intellect. They are also necessary for the experience of fulfillment; the 
intellect however well developed, cannot substitute for basic feeling.

X 

I love you baby.
 
 Ravi.
 
 
 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
 anartaxius@... wrote:
 
 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
 wrote:

 OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno, dear
 Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind, utterly
 threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a
 dilemma?

 Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I
 was speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute what
 he says.


 Having said I did find dumbaz's gags very funny, laughing loud reading
 another one his posts, the one Share responded to, while waiting for my
 dinner order here at a restaurant. That these morons are so stuck in their
 heads is really sad - they could have just had fun, come with witty
 responses, retorts but all we have is their repugnant prejudices exposed in
 such a pathetic fashion.

 It always baffles me when I see people taking Xeno's mental constructs
 so seriously and I know I have always been curious on how he interacts with
 normal people in his daily life, I have asked him before and all I got was
 more mental constructs.

 Nothing of what I say is really true, and indeed when I say anything it is
 presented as a mental construct. There is no way to speak 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
Now, I like this Xeno !

Now you are finally starting to show some heart..keep at it !!!

Perhaps one day I will indulge in intellectual discussions with you, not
right now because you already burdened by your muddled, muddied,
meanderings - like Robin says, first be true to your first person ontology,
let the reality in baby.

Love,
Ravi.


On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  Oh my cold, heartless Xeno,
 
  It's unfortunate that you can't see how utterly immobilized you are by
 your
  mental constructs, by your beliefs - indeed this is why Robin cleans your
  clock every single time, albeit in his own way, gently, persistently
  reminding of how far your mental constructs, beliefs keep you away from
  reality, you are a sitting duck - I feel pity for you petty, vain minds
  suffering from incorrigible, contagious form of IED (Intellectual
  Enlightenment Disorder).

 Your humility, Ravi, is overpowering.


  Look at this interaction I had with a one Dr. Conway on Ammachi free
 speech
  list, as soon as I read him, I chuckled - I realized this was another
 case
  of IED that's been a scourge of this nation - and that he should be a
 piece
  of cake for me to handle, like Xeno
 
  I baited him -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7341
 
  He feel hook, line and sinker -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7342
 
  I decimated him (last few paras) -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7368
 
  Poor bastard - I haven't heard back from him - probably retreated to the
  safety and solace of his neo-advaita brethren.
 
  As it stands now Robin  I have disagreements on what Enlightenment is
 and
  I will not allow sickly, delirious patients of IED such as yourself to
  muddy the waters here.

 This is a nice, clear statement. What do you feel the points are upon
 which you disagree with Robin? And, if I muddy the waters here, as long as
 Rick and Alex let me be on this forum, I could muddy the waters as much as
 desired. But being cold and heartless, how much do you think I could really
 stir up?

 
  I'll come hard at you Xeno - every single time, at my fancy, at my
 pleasure.
 
  Because unlike your mental constructs such as this gem here - I do find
  Ravi particularly annoying, but I have the choice (in free-will terms) to
  ignore him ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301358)
 -
  I don't live in my head.

 As for the 'gem' above, that was written shortly before you were outed
 from here, and I did experience annoyance at your antics. The statement
 about free will was not entirely serious as I do not really believe in free
 will; I used the words because that is how I think most people experience
 choice, that is why the comment was in parentheses.

 Stating that you do not live in your head and are minus mental constructs
 does not meant that is true, I firmly hold that it is not possible to
 express yourself in language without mental concepts. You used the concept
 'I' several times. You listed many of your accomplishments in decimating
 others' arguments;

 *I baited him.
 *he fell hook, line, and sinker
 *I decimated him

 Simple verbal abuse is not independent of concepts, and it does not
 require much intelligence either, you are being lazy. Maybe your work
 requires a lot of mental energy, and when you come here, it is easier not
 to think but to mindlessly emote. Seven months in the offline FFL cooler
 has not reduced your temperature much. But as you come back, you must like
 it here. Welcome.

 Mental constructs are a partial value of experience, they have a certain
 place. Experience has a more unbounded aspect, a more silent aspect. Even
 emotions are similar to mental constructs, they are more primitive and less
 focused than the intellect. They are also necessary for the experience of
 fulfillment; the intellect however well developed, cannot substitute for
 basic feeling.

 X

 I love you baby.
 
  Ravi.
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
  anartaxius@... wrote:
 
  **

 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
  wrote:
 
  OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno,
 dear
  Judy, I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind,
 utterly
  threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a
  dilemma?
 
  Hi Ravi. Long time no see. I am not threatened by Robin's brilliance. I
  was speaking of my general impression of him, not attempting to refute
 what
  he says.
 
 
  Having said I did find dumbaz's gags very funny, laughing loud reading
  another one his posts, the one Share responded to, while waiting for my
  dinner order here at a restaurant. That these morons are so stuck in
 their
  heads is really sad - they could 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread Ravi Chivukula
And Xeno baby - I have never claimed humility, I'm no Dalai Lama who
masquerades as humble to beguile, bewitch the naive, gullible Westerners,
for their money, for their support.

However I have explained myself as thus - my supreme arrogance yet genuine
humility - in fact I feel my humility is merely a product of my arrogance.
You most likely don't have kids - but think like a parent. A parent is both
arrogant and genuinely humble towards his children, because the children
are but his/her creation, you can never, ever take away the sense of
ownership, the subjective sense of ownership, the parent feels towards his
kids. Once someone, in reference to my mystical exploits, asked how I feel
- I said - I feel like I own your ass.

I was born arrogant, my mother, my siblings, only served to reinforce this
arrogance, but the existence punished me, rightly so, and I was humiliated,
harassed, hounded to learn humility, to respect authority, to learn the
rules of the game, to work within them.

I'm forever mobile, free, soaring. I'm no slave to anyone, unlike your
darling Dolly Lama.

Love,
Ravi


On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Ravi Chivukula
chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:

 Now, I like this Xeno !

 Now you are finally starting to show some heart..keep at it !!!

 Perhaps one day I will indulge in intellectual discussions with you, not
 right now because you already burdened by your muddled, muddied,
 meanderings - like Robin says, first be true to your first person ontology,
 let the reality in baby.

 Love,
 Ravi.


 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
 anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  Oh my cold, heartless Xeno,
 
  It's unfortunate that you can't see how utterly immobilized you are by
 your
  mental constructs, by your beliefs - indeed this is why Robin cleans
 your
  clock every single time, albeit in his own way, gently, persistently
  reminding of how far your mental constructs, beliefs keep you away from
  reality, you are a sitting duck - I feel pity for you petty, vain minds
  suffering from incorrigible, contagious form of IED (Intellectual
  Enlightenment Disorder).

 Your humility, Ravi, is overpowering.


  Look at this interaction I had with a one Dr. Conway on Ammachi free
 speech
  list, as soon as I read him, I chuckled - I realized this was another
 case
  of IED that's been a scourge of this nation - and that he should be a
 piece
  of cake for me to handle, like Xeno
 
  I baited him -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7341
 
  He feel hook, line and sinker -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7342
 
  I decimated him (last few paras) -
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone/message/7368
 
  Poor bastard - I haven't heard back from him - probably retreated to the
  safety and solace of his neo-advaita brethren.
 
  As it stands now Robin  I have disagreements on what Enlightenment is
 and
  I will not allow sickly, delirious patients of IED such as yourself to
  muddy the waters here.

 This is a nice, clear statement. What do you feel the points are upon
 which you disagree with Robin? And, if I muddy the waters here, as long as
 Rick and Alex let me be on this forum, I could muddy the waters as much as
 desired. But being cold and heartless, how much do you think I could really
 stir up?

 
  I'll come hard at you Xeno - every single time, at my fancy, at my
 pleasure.
 
  Because unlike your mental constructs such as this gem here - I do find
  Ravi particularly annoying, but I have the choice (in free-will terms)
 to
  ignore him (
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/301358) -
  I don't live in my head.

 As for the 'gem' above, that was written shortly before you were outed
 from here, and I did experience annoyance at your antics. The statement
 about free will was not entirely serious as I do not really believe in free
 will; I used the words because that is how I think most people experience
 choice, that is why the comment was in parentheses.

 Stating that you do not live in your head and are minus mental constructs
 does not meant that is true, I firmly hold that it is not possible to
 express yourself in language without mental concepts. You used the concept
 'I' several times. You listed many of your accomplishments in decimating
 others' arguments;

 *I baited him.
 *he fell hook, line, and sinker
 *I decimated him

 Simple verbal abuse is not independent of concepts, and it does not
 require much intelligence either, you are being lazy. Maybe your work
 requires a lot of mental energy, and when you come here, it is easier not
 to think but to mindlessly emote. Seven months in the offline FFL cooler
 has not reduced your temperature much. But as you come back, you must like
 it here. Welcome.

 Mental constructs are a partial value of experience, they have a certain
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-19 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@...wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   Believing that what you believe equals truth is
   the disease of Narcissism, not the onset of
   Enlightenment.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/csuezw3
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEvoPLHIkYw
 
 This is awesome - thanks for the link, I will watch the whole
 thing - here's one of the gems I liked - *Is she pretty? She
 behaves as if she were beautiful, all American women do, it's
 the secret of their charm *:-)

Great line. It's a brilliant production. I cheated and watched
the last part, and it's so well done compared to some other
versions I've seen. The credits say it was Dramatised by
John Osborne. Not sure what that means--I guess that he wrote
the screenplay from the novel? Because the script is superb.




[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Richard J. Williams


So, it's all about Robin.

azgrey:
 Robin W Carlsen...

sniped 2000 words



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:

 So, it's all about Robin.

Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
how many others do.



 azgrey:
  Robin W Carlsen...
 
 sniped 2000 words





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ wrote:
 
  So, it's all about Robin.
 
 Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
 about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
 how many others do.
 

http://youtu.be/N0O--UueuNI
 
 
  azgrey:
   Robin W Carlsen...
  
  sniped 2000 words
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ 
  wrote:
  
   So, it's all about Robin.
  
  Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
  about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
  how many others do.
 
 http://youtu.be/N0O--UueuNI

Exactly.





  
  
   azgrey:
Robin W Carlsen...
   
   sniped 2000 words
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread salyavin808


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 You abhorrent, abominable, appalling, awful, baseborn, common, disgusting,
 distasteful, dreadful, evil, foul, fulsome, gross, hideous, horrendous,
 horrible, horrid,  ignoble, inferior, loathsome, low, lowborn, lower-class,
 low-life, lowly, lumpen, mean, nasty, nauseating, nauseous, noisome,
 noxious, obnoxious, obscene, odious, offensive, plebeian, prole,
 proletarian, rancid, repellent, repugnant, repulsive, revolting,
 scandalous, shocking, sickening, ugly, unwashed, vulgar, imbecile,
 minute-man, dumbaz.

Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital. 

I always used to chuckle when I said to friends that I lived in
a meditation centre and they'd go wow it must be really relaxing
and full of cool laidback people And I'd say, oh yeah really
ever seen One flew over the cuckoo's nest?



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@... wrote:

 You abhorrent, abominable, appalling, awful, baseborn, common, disgusting,
 distasteful, dreadful, evil, foul, fulsome, gross, hideous, horrendous,
 horrible, horrid,  ignoble, inferior, loathsome, low, lowborn, lower-class,
 low-life, lowly, lumpen, mean, nasty, nauseating, nauseous, noisome,
 noxious, obnoxious, obscene, odious, offensive, plebeian, prole,
 proletarian, rancid, repellent, repugnant, repulsive, revolting,
 scandalous, shocking, sickening, ugly, unwashed, vulgar, imbecile,
 minute-man, dumbaz.

Hey, the last three are out of alpha order. ;-)



 On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
  **
 
 
  Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his incoherent
  message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of
  television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was chosen
  by God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to brass
  tacks: It is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise and
  focus solely on his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but forces
  his underlings to make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, Robin's
  underlings don't much seem to mind being given such querulous orders. I
  guess it's hard to free chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from the chains
  they revere. A related observation is that there's something fishy about
  Robin's insults. I think he's up to something, something beer-guzzling and
  perhaps even shameless.
 
  Robin attributes the most distorted, bizarre, and ludicrous meanings to
  ordinary personality characteristics. For example, if you're shy, he calls
  you fearful and withdrawn. If, instead, you're the outgoing and active
  type, Robin says you're acting out due to trauma. Why does he say such
  things? This is an important question because if you read between the lines
  of his ploys, you'll really find that if we don't offer true constructive
  criticismâ€listening to the whole issue, recognizing the problems,
  recognizing what is being done right, and getting involved to help remedy
  the problemâ€then Robin will impinge upon our daily lives. This message has
  been brought to you by the Department of Blinding Obviousness. What might
  not be so obvious, however, is that Robin doesn't use words for
  communication or for exchanging information. He uses them to disarm, to
  hypnotize, to mislead, and to deceive.
 
  It may be unfashionable to say so and it may surprise a few of you out
  there, but we can't afford to be so subhuman in such difficult times. Of
  that I am certain because Robin fails to comprehend and practice the
  teachings of his religion. More precisely, he conveniently forgets his
  religion's messages of peace, love, compassion, acceptance, and
  forgivenessâ€or, at best, misremembers them as an edict to set the wolf to
  mind the sheep. If he makes fun of me or insults me I hear it, and it
  hurts. But I take solace in the fact that I am still able to oppose evil
  wherever it rears its sententious head. Even when Robin isn't lying, he's
  using facts, emphasizing facts, bearing down on facts, sliding off facts,
  quietly ignoring facts, and, above all, interpreting facts in a way that
  will enable him to entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of the
  ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice of scornful misosophists.
  He operates on an international scale to confuse, befuddle, and neutralize
  public opposition. It's only fitting, therefore, that we, too, work on an
  international scale but to celebrate knowledge and truth for the sake of
  knowledge and truth.
 
  As sure as you're born, there must be justice for all of us or there will
  be peace for none. For that reason, his helpers are unified under a common
  goal. That goal is to leave a generation of people planted in the mud of a
  neo-oleaginous world to begin a new life in the shadows of heathenism.
  Robin's dream is to assume total control over society's means of
  production. Those with membership cards in his coven will be given whatever
  they want while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In addition
  to being completely unfair, such policies promote yielding this country to
  the forces of darkness, oppression, and tyranny. Furthermore, he once had
  the audacity to tell me that metanarratives are the root of tyranny,
  lawlessness, overpopulation, racial hatred, world hunger, disease, and rank
  stupidity. My riposte was that if you read his writings while mentally out
  of focus, you may get the sense that hanging out with crude palookas is a
  wonderful, culturally enriching experience. But if you read Robin's
  writings while mentally in focus and weigh each point carefully, it's clear
  that I personally unequivocally have no appetite for conditioning the
  publicâ€or, more precisely, brainwashing the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
I know I'm sad dear Judy :-)

I was just following typical minuteman strategies of his cut  paste
glories. Don't know how else to deal with these guys - now we have the
dribbling,
driveling, drooling, rabid, slobbering, salivating, salyavin - who seems to
want to rehabilitate himself here - god have mercy on these souls.




On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:55 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 **




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  You abhorrent, abominable, appalling, awful, baseborn, common,
 disgusting,
  distasteful, dreadful, evil, foul, fulsome, gross, hideous, horrendous,
  horrible, horrid, ignoble, inferior, loathsome, low, lowborn,
 lower-class,
  low-life, lowly, lumpen, mean, nasty, nauseating, nauseous, noisome,
  noxious, obnoxious, obscene, odious, offensive, plebeian, prole,
  proletarian, rancid, repellent, repugnant, repulsive, revolting,
  scandalous, shocking, sickening, ugly, unwashed, vulgar, imbecile,
  minute-man, dumbaz.

 Hey, the last three are out of alpha order. ;-)


  On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:33 AM, azgrey no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 wrote:
 
   **

  
  
   Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his
 incoherent
   message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of
   television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was
 chosen
   by God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to
 brass
   tacks: It is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise
 and
   focus solely on his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but
 forces
   his underlings to make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, Robin's
   underlings don't much seem to mind being given such querulous orders. I
   guess it's hard to free chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from the
 chains
   they revere. A related observation is that there's something fishy
 about
   Robin's insults. I think he's up to something, something beer-guzzling
 and
   perhaps even shameless.
  
   Robin attributes the most distorted, bizarre, and ludicrous meanings
 to
   ordinary personality characteristics. For example, if you're shy, he
 calls
   you fearful and withdrawn. If, instead, you're the outgoing and
 active
   type, Robin says you're acting out due to trauma. Why does he say
 such
   things? This is an important question because if you read between the
 lines
   of his ploys, you'll really find that if we don't offer true
 constructive
   criticismâ€listening to the whole issue, recognizing the problems,

   recognizing what is being done right, and getting involved to help
 remedy
   the problemâ€then Robin will impinge upon our daily lives. This
 message has

   been brought to you by the Department of Blinding Obviousness. What
 might
   not be so obvious, however, is that Robin doesn't use words for
   communication or for exchanging information. He uses them to disarm, to
   hypnotize, to mislead, and to deceive.
  
   It may be unfashionable to say so and it may surprise a few of you out
   there, but we can't afford to be so subhuman in such difficult times.
 Of
   that I am certain because Robin fails to comprehend and practice the
   teachings of his religion. More precisely, he conveniently forgets his
   religion's messages of peace, love, compassion, acceptance, and
   forgivenessâ€or, at best, misremembers them as an edict to set the
 wolf to

   mind the sheep. If he makes fun of me or insults me I hear it, and it
   hurts. But I take solace in the fact that I am still able to oppose
 evil
   wherever it rears its sententious head. Even when Robin isn't lying,
 he's
   using facts, emphasizing facts, bearing down on facts, sliding off
 facts,
   quietly ignoring facts, and, above all, interpreting facts in a way
 that
   will enable him to entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of
 the
   ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice of scornful
 misosophists.
   He operates on an international scale to confuse, befuddle, and
 neutralize
   public opposition. It's only fitting, therefore, that we, too, work on
 an
   international scale but to celebrate knowledge and truth for the sake
 of
   knowledge and truth.
  
   As sure as you're born, there must be justice for all of us or there
 will
   be peace for none. For that reason, his helpers are unified under a
 common
   goal. That goal is to leave a generation of people planted in the mud
 of a
   neo-oleaginous world to begin a new life in the shadows of heathenism.
   Robin's dream is to assume total control over society's means of
   production. Those with membership cards in his coven will be given
 whatever
   they want while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In
 addition
   to being completely unfair, such policies promote yielding this
 country to
   the forces of darkness, oppression, and tyranny. Furthermore, he once
 had
   the audacity to tell me that metanarratives are the root of 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM, salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.comwrote:

 **




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  You abhorrent, abominable, appalling, awful, baseborn, common,
 disgusting,
  distasteful, dreadful, evil, foul, fulsome, gross, hideous, horrendous,
  horrible, horrid, ignoble, inferior, loathsome, low, lowborn,
 lower-class,
  low-life, lowly, lumpen, mean, nasty, nauseating, nauseous, noisome,
  noxious, obnoxious, obscene, odious, offensive, plebeian, prole,
  proletarian, rancid, repellent, repugnant, repulsive, revolting,
  scandalous, shocking, sickening, ugly, unwashed, vulgar, imbecile,
  minute-man, dumbaz.

 Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital.

 I always used to chuckle when I said to friends that I lived in
 a meditation centre and they'd go wow it must be really relaxing
 and full of cool laidback people And I'd say, oh yeah really
 ever seen One flew over the cuckoo's nest?

  


You are welcome - is it OK to pet you?


[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
RESPONSE: http://tinyurl.com/8f6mylx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyai4V4d9T4

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@... wrote:

 Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his incoherent 
 message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of 
 television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was chosen by 
 God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to brass tacks: 
 It is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise and focus 
 solely on his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but forces his 
 underlings to make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, Robin's underlings 
 don't much seem to mind being given such querulous orders. I guess it's hard 
 to free chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from the chains they revere. A 
 related observation is that there's something fishy about Robin's insults. I 
 think he's up to something, something beer-guzzling and perhaps even 
 shameless.
 
 Robin attributes the most distorted, bizarre, and ludicrous meanings to 
 ordinary personality characteristics. For example, if you're shy, he calls 
 you fearful and withdrawn. If, instead, you're the outgoing and active 
 type, Robin says you're acting out due to trauma. Why does he say such 
 things? This is an important question because if you read between the lines 
 of his ploys, you'll really find that if we don't offer true constructive 
 criticism—listening to the whole issue, recognizing the problems, recognizing 
 what is being done right, and getting involved to help remedy the 
 problem—then Robin will impinge upon our daily lives. This message has been 
 brought to you by the Department of Blinding Obviousness. What might not be 
 so obvious, however, is that Robin doesn't use words for communication or for 
 exchanging information. He uses them to disarm, to hypnotize, to mislead, and 
 to deceive.
 
 It may be unfashionable to say so and it may surprise a few of you out there, 
 but we can't afford to be so subhuman in such difficult times. Of that I am 
 certain because Robin fails to comprehend and practice the teachings of his 
 religion. More precisely, he conveniently forgets his religion's messages of 
 peace, love, compassion, acceptance, and forgiveness—or, at best, 
 misremembers them as an edict to set the wolf to mind the sheep. If he makes 
 fun of me or insults me I hear it, and it hurts. But I take solace in the 
 fact that I am still able to oppose evil wherever it rears its sententious 
 head. Even when Robin isn't lying, he's using facts, emphasizing facts, 
 bearing down on facts, sliding off facts, quietly ignoring facts, and, above 
 all, interpreting facts in a way that will enable him to entangle our peace 
 and prosperity in the toils of the ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or 
 caprice of scornful misosophists. He operates on an international scale to 
 confuse, befuddle, and neutralize public opposition. It's only fitting, 
 therefore, that we, too, work on an international scale but to celebrate 
 knowledge and truth for the sake of knowledge and truth.
 
 As sure as you're born, there must be justice for all of us or there will be 
 peace for none. For that reason, his helpers are unified under a common goal. 
 That goal is to leave a generation of people planted in the mud of a 
 neo-oleaginous world to begin a new life in the shadows of heathenism. 
 Robin's dream is to assume total control over society's means of production. 
 Those with membership cards in his coven will be given whatever they want 
 while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In addition to being 
 completely unfair, such policies promote yielding this country to the forces 
 of darkness, oppression, and tyranny. Furthermore, he once had the audacity 
 to tell me that metanarratives are the root of tyranny, lawlessness, 
 overpopulation, racial hatred, world hunger, disease, and rank stupidity. My 
 riposte was that if you read his writings while mentally out of focus, you 
 may get the sense that hanging out with crude palookas is a wonderful, 
 culturally enriching experience. But if you read Robin's writings while 
 mentally in focus and weigh each point carefully, it's clear that I 
 personally unequivocally have no appetite for conditioning the public—or, 
 more precisely, brainwashing the public—into believing that society is 
 supposed to be lenient towards unreasonable tosspots. Many sinful 
 televangelists, however, do. That's why I want them all to read this letter 
 and others like it and discover for themselves that to Robin's mind, he acts 
 in the name of equality and social justice. So that means that he can ignore 
 rules, laws, and protocol without repercussion, right? No, not right. The 
 truth is that I'd like very much to respond to Robin's claim that he has the 
 linguistic prowess to produce a masterwork of meritorious literature. 
 Unfortunately, taking into account 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.r...@gmail.comwrote:



 On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 12:54 PM, salyavin808 fintlewoodle...@mail.comwrote:

 **




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
 wrote:
 
  You abhorrent, abominable, appalling, awful, baseborn, common,
 disgusting,
  distasteful, dreadful, evil, foul, fulsome, gross, hideous, horrendous,
  horrible, horrid, ignoble, inferior, loathsome, low, lowborn,
 lower-class,
  low-life, lowly, lumpen, mean, nasty, nauseating, nauseous, noisome,
  noxious, obnoxious, obscene, odious, offensive, plebeian, prole,
  proletarian, rancid, repellent, repugnant, repulsive, revolting,
  scandalous, shocking, sickening, ugly, unwashed, vulgar, imbecile,
  minute-man, dumbaz.

 Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital.

 I always used to chuckle when I said to friends that I lived in
 a meditation centre and they'd go wow it must be really relaxing
 and full of cool laidback people And I'd say, oh yeah really
 ever seen One flew over the cuckoo's nest?

  


 You are welcome - is it OK to pet you?


Oh how dumb of me, you poor creature. Though as the caretaker of this
institution we welcome pleasant, delightful creatures such as yourself -
bringing joy, happiness to our members, I was literally barking at the
wrong creature.

I will speak to your master, since there are some concerns about you that
have been brought to my attention, make sure your shots are current and you
have been duly registered. And then we will all pet you, OK? I promise.


[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@... wrote:

 RESPONSE: http://tinyurl.com/8f6mylx
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyai4V4d9T4

LOL.


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his incoherent 
  message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of 
  television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was chosen 
  by God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to brass 
  tacks: It is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise and 
  focus solely on his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but forces 
  his underlings to make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, Robin's 
  underlings don't much seem to mind being given such querulous orders. I 
  guess it's hard to free chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from the chains 
  they revere. A related observation is that there's something fishy about 
  Robin's insults. I think he's up to something, something beer-guzzling and 
  perhaps even shameless.
  
  Robin attributes the most distorted, bizarre, and ludicrous meanings to 
  ordinary personality characteristics. For example, if you're shy, he calls 
  you fearful and withdrawn. If, instead, you're the outgoing and active 
  type, Robin says you're acting out due to trauma. Why does he say such 
  things? This is an important question because if you read between the lines 
  of his ploys, you'll really find that if we don't offer true constructive 
  criticism—listening to the whole issue, recognizing the problems, 
  recognizing what is being done right, and getting involved to help remedy 
  the problem—then Robin will impinge upon our daily lives. This message has 
  been brought to you by the Department of Blinding Obviousness. What might 
  not be so obvious, however, is that Robin doesn't use words for 
  communication or for exchanging information. He uses them to disarm, to 
  hypnotize, to mislead, and to deceive.
  
  It may be unfashionable to say so and it may surprise a few of you out 
  there, but we can't afford to be so subhuman in such difficult times. Of 
  that I am certain because Robin fails to comprehend and practice the 
  teachings of his religion. More precisely, he conveniently forgets his 
  religion's messages of peace, love, compassion, acceptance, and 
  forgiveness—or, at best, misremembers them as an edict to set the wolf to 
  mind the sheep. If he makes fun of me or insults me I hear it, and it 
  hurts. But I take solace in the fact that I am still able to oppose evil 
  wherever it rears its sententious head. Even when Robin isn't lying, he's 
  using facts, emphasizing facts, bearing down on facts, sliding off facts, 
  quietly ignoring facts, and, above all, interpreting facts in a way that 
  will enable him to entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of the 
  ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice of scornful misosophists. 
  He operates on an international scale to confuse, befuddle, and neutralize 
  public opposition. It's only fitting, therefore, that we, too, work on an 
  international scale but to celebrate knowledge and truth for the sake of 
  knowledge and truth.
  
  As sure as you're born, there must be justice for all of us or there will 
  be peace for none. For that reason, his helpers are unified under a common 
  goal. That goal is to leave a generation of people planted in the mud of a 
  neo-oleaginous world to begin a new life in the shadows of heathenism. 
  Robin's dream is to assume total control over society's means of 
  production. Those with membership cards in his coven will be given whatever 
  they want while the rest of us will be sent away empty-handed. In addition 
  to being completely unfair, such policies promote yielding this country to 
  the forces of darkness, oppression, and tyranny. Furthermore, he once had 
  the audacity to tell me that metanarratives are the root of tyranny, 
  lawlessness, overpopulation, racial hatred, world hunger, disease, and rank 
  stupidity. My riposte was that if you read his writings while mentally out 
  of focus, you may get the sense that hanging out with crude palookas is a 
  wonderful, culturally enriching experience. But if you read Robin's 
  writings while mentally in focus and weigh each point carefully, it's clear 
  that I personally unequivocally have no appetite for conditioning the 
  public—or, more precisely, brainwashing the public—into believing that 
  society is supposed to be lenient towards unreasonable tosspots. Many 
  sinful televangelists, however, do. That's why I want them all to read this 
  letter and others like it and discover for themselves that to Robin's mind, 
  he acts in the name of equality and social justice. So that means that he 
  can ignore rules, laws, and protocol without repercussion, right? No, not 
  right. The truth is that I'd like very much 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 1:40 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robin Carlsen maskedzebra@...
 wrote:
 
  RESPONSE: http://tinyurl.com/8f6mylx
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyai4V4d9T4

 LOL.


Awesomethanks for the laughs.


[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:

 Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital. 

It's pretty scary, isn't it? 





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 
  Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital. 
 
 It's pretty scary, isn't it?

Everybody's crazy but me and thee, Samanthy, and sometimes
I think even thee is a little strange.





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Robin Carlsen
RESPONSE: http://tinyurl.com/br4uaxn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmE0oAtY5L4feature=bf_prevlist=PL0 
F2FF285A8044D5B

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 
  Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital. 
 
 It's pretty scary, isn't it?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 **


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@...
 wrote:
 
  Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital.

 It's pretty scary, isn't it?


You are welcome too..I know it's scary, it was for salyavaating too..but
you too like the fun, thrill of this scary place. Anyway I, as the
caretaker of this institution, am proud to say that, we do not care, we do
not discriminate, the innocence of a emotionally stunted 64 years old, we
consider it the same as that of a drooling, gentle, salivating creature -
the joy, the peace, the fun they bring to our members, this is our
commitment.

Not it's way past your bed time Barry, beat it !!






  



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread danfriedman2002
Now Battly,

Let's be calm. There's no need to be scared at your mental hospital.
It's here to help you get better.

Don't be frightened of the doctors and nurses. They will give you
something to make thins less scary for you. We all know that you are
afraid all of the time, but that can change. No one is here to hurt you,
we want to help you.

If you're thinking thoughts that frighten you, you can talk about them.
It will help.

Doctor, Doctor!! He's completely delusional! Believes everyone is
against him. Can't listen. Constant rage! I've never seen such an extrme
case. Get the straightjacket!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
wrote:
 
  Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital.

 It's pretty scary, isn't it?





[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
 
  Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital. 
 
 It's pretty scary, isn't it?


Yep, some of it reminds me of an Austrian wannabe painter... ;D



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread awoelflebater


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ 
  wrote:
  
   Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital. 
  
  It's pretty scary, isn't it?
 
 Everybody's crazy but me and thee, Samanthy, and sometimes
 I think even thee is a little strange.

Jesus, I go to Vancouver for 8 hours I'm sitting on the ferry and take a peek 
at FFL and all hell has broken loose.  Now will you all get back in your cages 
and  stop terrorizing the orderlies. This is the last time I leave you all 
unattended and AZ, we need to have a talk. There's a law against plagiarism and 
inciting the loonies to riot. Now settle down, I'll figure out all of your 
punishments tomorrow. (this has not been easy typing this on a damn iPhone by 
the way.)



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread raunchydog


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ 
   wrote:
   
Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital. 
   
   It's pretty scary, isn't it?
  
  Everybody's crazy but me and thee, Samanthy, and sometimes
  I think even thee is a little strange.
 
 Jesus, I go to Vancouver for 8 hours I'm sitting on the ferry and take a peek 
 at FFL and all hell has broken loose.  Now will you all get back in your 
 cages and  stop terrorizing the orderlies. This is the last time I leave you 
 all unattended and AZ, we need to have a talk. There's a law against 
 plagiarism and inciting the loonies to riot. Now settle down, I'll figure out 
 all of your punishments tomorrow. (this has not been easy typing this on a 
 damn iPhone by the way.)


http://youtu.be/ryZky0y4ERg



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread danfriedman2002
Ann,

In my earlier report, I indicated that all of the orderlies were
occupied caring for Batty (Cooincidental name, don't you think?).

Batty has been having a rough-life-of-it, I have come to understand. It
has taken me a lot of time and effort to get the facts on Batty, but I
can assure that these words are true as best as I can ascertain.

He's even provided his photo, hometown, and movements.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@...
wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808
fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
   
Honest to god visiting FFL is like visiting a mental hospital.
  
   It's pretty scary, isn't it?
 
  Everybody's crazy but me and thee, Samanthy, and sometimes
  I think even thee is a little strange.
 
 Jesus, I go to Vancouver for 8 hours I'm sitting on the ferry and take
a peek at FFL and all hell has broken loose.  Now will you all get back
in your cages and  stop terrorizing the orderlies. This is the last time
I leave you all unattended and AZ, we need to have a talk. There's a law
against plagiarism and inciting the loonies to riot. Now settle down,
I'll figure out all of your punishments tomorrow. (this has not been
easy typing this on a damn iPhone by the way.)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/18/2012 11:33 AM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... 
 wrote:
 So, it's all about Robin.
 Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
 about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
 how many others do.




Well gee Willy, I guess if Judy sez that it must be true.  That 
despite the fact that the post I quoted had the word Robin in it some 
47 times.  Guess Judy must have read it as Tobin (or did she read it 
at all)? :-D


[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/18/2012 11:33 AM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ 
  wrote:
  So, it's all about Robin.
 
  Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
  about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
  how many others do.
 
 Well gee Willy, I guess if Judy sez that it must be true.
 That despite the fact that the post I quoted had the word
 Robin in it some 47 times. Guess Judy must have read it 
 as Tobin (or did she read it at all)? :-D

Somehow I don't think az expected that Bhairitu would be
one of the folks who would fall for the gag, but I could
have told az he might, given his propensity to believe in
nutty conspiracy theories.

Still, it's hard to fathom how anybody with two brain cells
to rub together could have read even just the first
paragraph and thought it was about Robin. Heck, the second
sentence in the first paragraph should have been enough to
clue folks in that something wasn't kosher, even if their
reading skills were so deficient as to prevent them from
being able to decode Robin's message.

The real stunner, however, is Bhairitu's claim above, that
the appearance of Robin's name in the post is enough to
demonstrate that it's about Robin.

I mean, it boggles the mind. You just wouldn't expect that
kind of stupidity from someone who had managed to make a
solid career for themselves. A few highlights:

Bhairitu found employment as a musician at various clubs in the Village, as 
well as earning acting roles in film. His made his debut on the silver screen 
in Abel Ferrara's China Girl, for which he also wrote the end-credit song 
Midnight. Bhairitu went on to collaborate with Ferrara on several film and 
music projects, including: Bad Lieutenant, in which Bhairitu played Jesus 
Christ and co-wrote the end-credits song; Body Snatchers, which featured the 
song I Want You Back; and The Funeral, which saw Bhairitu co-starring with 
Christopher Walken, Isabella Rosselini, Benicio del Toro and Vincent Gallo.

Bhairitu then co-starred in the off-Broadway show A Minor Incident with 
legendary songwriter Carole King, who was making her stage debut in the play. 
The two collaborated on songs for her Capitol Records release City Streets, 
including the song I Can't Stop Thinking About You, which Bhairitu co-wrote 
and plays guitar and performs backing vocals on. It was on stage with Carole 
King at London's Royal Albert Hall that Bhairitu was spotted by the producers 
of a new West End musical Buddy: The Buddy Holly Story.

Buddy opened to rave reviews on 12 October 1989, at The Victoria Palace 
Theater. Bhairitu's turn in the title role of Buddy Holly earned him a 
nomination for the Laurence Olivier Award for Outstanding Performance by an 
Actor in a Musical. The following year, Buddy at Broadway's Shubert Theater in 
New York, and Bhairitu was nominated for a Tony Award for his performance, as 
well as winning the Theater World Award for Best Broadway Debut.

After Buddy, Bhairitu appeared in the films Fathers  Sons, with Jeff Goldblum, 
and as Jesus Christ opposite Harvey Keitel in Abel Ferrara's Bad Lieutenant, 
for which he also performed and co-wrote the title song, Bad Lieutenant with 
Ferrara. Bhairitu also appeared as Gene Vincent opposite Donal Logue (as Eddie 
Cochran) in the play Be-Bop-A-Lula at Hollywood's famed Theater/Theater before 
returning to the London stage for the 25th anniversary revival of Hair at the 
Old Vic, in the role of Berger.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/18/2012 05:42 PM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 On 08/18/2012 11:33 AM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ 
 wrote:
 So, it's all about Robin.
 Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
 about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
 how many others do.

 Well gee Willy, I guess if Judy sez that it must be true.
 That despite the fact that the post I quoted had the word
 Robin in it some 47 times. Guess Judy must have read it
 as Tobin (or did she read it at all)? :-D
 Somehow I don't think az expected that Bhairitu would be
 one of the folks who would fall for the gag, but I could
 have told az he might, given his propensity to believe in
 nutty conspiracy theories.

 Still, it's hard to fathom how anybody with two brain cells
 to rub together could have read even just the first
 paragraph and thought it was about Robin. Heck, the second
 sentence in the first paragraph should have been enough to
 clue folks in that something wasn't kosher, even if their
 reading skills were so deficient as to prevent them from
 being able to decode Robin's message.

 The real stunner, however, is Bhairitu's claim above, that
 the appearance of Robin's name in the post is enough to
 demonstrate that it's about Robin.

 I mean, it boggles the mind. You just wouldn't expect that
 kind of stupidity from someone who had managed to make a
 solid career for themselves. A few highlights:

 Bhairitu found employment as a musician at various clubs in the Village, as 
 well as earning acting roles in film. His made his debut on the silver screen 
 in Abel Ferrara's China Girl, for which he also wrote the end-credit song 
 Midnight. Bhairitu went on to collaborate with Ferrara on several film and 
 music projects, including: Bad Lieutenant, in which Bhairitu played Jesus 
 Christ and co-wrote the end-credits song; Body Snatchers, which featured the 
 song I Want You Back; and The Funeral, which saw Bhairitu co-starring with 
 Christopher Walken, Isabella Rosselini, Benicio del Toro and Vincent Gallo.

 Bhairitu then co-starred in the off-Broadway show A Minor Incident with 
 legendary songwriter Carole King, who was making her stage debut in the play. 
 The two collaborated on songs for her Capitol Records release City Streets, 
 including the song I Can't Stop Thinking About You, which Bhairitu co-wrote 
 and plays guitar and performs backing vocals on. It was on stage with Carole 
 King at London's Royal Albert Hall that Bhairitu was spotted by the producers 
 of a new West End musical Buddy: The Buddy Holly Story.

 Buddy opened to rave reviews on 12 October 1989, at The Victoria Palace 
 Theater. Bhairitu's turn in the title role of Buddy Holly earned him a 
 nomination for the Laurence Olivier Award for Outstanding Performance by an 
 Actor in a Musical. The following year, Buddy at Broadway's Shubert Theater 
 in New York, and Bhairitu was nominated for a Tony Award for his performance, 
 as well as winning the Theater World Award for Best Broadway Debut.

 After Buddy, Bhairitu appeared in the films Fathers  Sons, with Jeff 
 Goldblum, and as Jesus Christ opposite Harvey Keitel in Abel Ferrara's Bad 
 Lieutenant, for which he also performed and co-wrote the title song, Bad 
 Lieutenant with Ferrara. Bhairitu also appeared as Gene Vincent opposite 
 Donal Logue (as Eddie Cochran) in the play Be-Bop-A-Lula at Hollywood's famed 
 Theater/Theater before returning to the London stage for the 25th anniversary 
 revival of Hair at the Old Vic, in the role of Berger.




That might have been a fun career but it wasn't mine.  I don't know of 
anyone really named Bhairitu.  It's just a Hinduzation of Barry2.  Could 
break it down to being Bhai for brother and Ritu which is an Indian 
name albeit for a woman which would of course extend the joke further as 
brother Ritu for some cognitive dissonance. What fun!

Judy goes further into the ozone.  Here is the first paragraph she is 
talking about:

Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his incoherent 
message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of 
television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was chosen by 
God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to brass tacks: It 
is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise and focus solely on 
his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but forces his underlings to 
make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, Robin's underlings don't much seem 
to mind being given such querulous orders. I guess it's hard to free 
chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from the chains they revere. A related 
observation is that there's something fishy about Robin's insults. I think he's 
up to something, something beer-guzzling and perhaps even shameless.

Now who is that about? Maybe Judy is confused with some other post.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/18/2012 05:42 PM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  On 08/18/2012 11:33 AM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ 
  wrote:
  So, it's all about Robin.
  Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
  about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
  how many others do.
 
  Well gee Willy, I guess if Judy sez that it must be true.
  That despite the fact that the post I quoted had the word
  Robin in it some 47 times. Guess Judy must have read it
  as Tobin (or did she read it at all)? :-D
 
  Somehow I don't think az expected that Bhairitu would be
  one of the folks who would fall for the gag, but I could
  have told az he might, given his propensity to believe in
  nutty conspiracy theories.
 
  Still, it's hard to fathom how anybody with two brain cells
  to rub together could have read even just the first
  paragraph and thought it was about Robin. Heck, the second
  sentence in the first paragraph should have been enough to
  clue folks in that something wasn't kosher, even if their
  reading skills were so deficient as to prevent them from
  being able to decode Robin's message.
 
  The real stunner, however, is Bhairitu's claim above, that
  the appearance of Robin's name in the post is enough to
  demonstrate that it's about Robin.
 
  I mean, it boggles the mind. You just wouldn't expect that
  kind of stupidity from someone who had managed to make a
  solid career for themselves. A few highlights:
 
  Bhairitu found employment as a musician at various clubs in the Village, as 
  well as earning acting roles in film. His made his debut on the silver 
  screen in Abel Ferrara's China Girl, for which he also wrote the end-credit 
  song Midnight. Bhairitu went on to collaborate with Ferrara on several 
  film and music projects, including: Bad Lieutenant, in which Bhairitu 
  played Jesus Christ and co-wrote the end-credits song; Body Snatchers, 
  which featured the song I Want You Back; and The Funeral, which saw 
  Bhairitu co-starring with Christopher Walken, Isabella Rosselini, Benicio 
  del Toro and Vincent Gallo.
 
  Bhairitu then co-starred in the off-Broadway show A Minor Incident with 
  legendary songwriter Carole King, who was making her stage debut in the 
  play. The two collaborated on songs for her Capitol Records release City 
  Streets, including the song I Can't Stop Thinking About You, which 
  Bhairitu co-wrote and plays guitar and performs backing vocals on. It was 
  on stage with Carole King at London's Royal Albert Hall that Bhairitu was 
  spotted by the producers of a new West End musical Buddy: The Buddy Holly 
  Story.
 
  Buddy opened to rave reviews on 12 October 1989, at The Victoria Palace 
  Theater. Bhairitu's turn in the title role of Buddy Holly earned him a 
  nomination for the Laurence Olivier Award for Outstanding Performance by an 
  Actor in a Musical. The following year, Buddy at Broadway's Shubert Theater 
  in New York, and Bhairitu was nominated for a Tony Award for his 
  performance, as well as winning the Theater World Award for Best Broadway 
  Debut.
 
  After Buddy, Bhairitu appeared in the films Fathers  Sons, with Jeff 
  Goldblum, and as Jesus Christ opposite Harvey Keitel in Abel Ferrara's Bad 
  Lieutenant, for which he also performed and co-wrote the title song, Bad 
  Lieutenant with Ferrara. Bhairitu also appeared as Gene Vincent opposite 
  Donal Logue (as Eddie Cochran) in the play Be-Bop-A-Lula at Hollywood's 
  famed Theater/Theater before returning to the London stage for the 25th 
  anniversary revival of Hair at the Old Vic, in the role of Berger.
 
 That might have been a fun career but it wasn't mine.

Your name appears in it 11 times (it's much shorter than az's
post).

 I don't know of anyone really named Bhairitu.

It originally said Barry, but I replaced it with Bhairitu
because that's the name you use here.

snip 
 Judy goes further into the ozone.  Here is the first paragraph
 she is talking about:
 
 Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his incoherent 
 message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of 
 television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was chosen by 
 God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to brass tacks: 
 It is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise and focus 
 solely on his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but forces his 
 underlings to make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, Robin's underlings 
 don't much seem to mind being given such querulous orders. I guess it's hard 
 to free chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from the chains they revere. A 
 related observation is that there's something fishy about Robin's insults. I 
 think he's up to something, something beer-guzzling and perhaps 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/18/2012 05:42 PM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  On 08/18/2012 11:33 AM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ 
  wrote:
  So, it's all about Robin.
  Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
  about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
  how many others do.
 
  Well gee Willy, I guess if Judy sez that it must be true.
  That despite the fact that the post I quoted had the word
  Robin in it some 47 times. Guess Judy must have read it
  as Tobin (or did she read it at all)? :-D
  Somehow I don't think az expected that Bhairitu would be
  one of the folks who would fall for the gag, but I could
  have told az he might, given his propensity to believe in
  nutty conspiracy theories.
 
  Still, it's hard to fathom how anybody with two brain cells
  to rub together could have read even just the first
  paragraph and thought it was about Robin. Heck, the second
  sentence in the first paragraph should have been enough to
  clue folks in that something wasn't kosher, even if their
  reading skills were so deficient as to prevent them from
  being able to decode Robin's message.
 
  The real stunner, however, is Bhairitu's claim above, that
  the appearance of Robin's name in the post is enough to
  demonstrate that it's about Robin.
 
  I mean, it boggles the mind. You just wouldn't expect that
  kind of stupidity from someone who had managed to make a
  solid career for themselves. A few highlights:
 
  Bhairitu found employment as a musician at various clubs in the Village, as 
  well as earning acting roles in film. His made his debut on the silver 
  screen in Abel Ferrara's China Girl, for which he also wrote the end-credit 
  song Midnight. Bhairitu went on to collaborate with Ferrara on several 
  film and music projects, including: Bad Lieutenant, in which Bhairitu 
  played Jesus Christ and co-wrote the end-credits song; Body Snatchers, 
  which featured the song I Want You Back; and The Funeral, which saw 
  Bhairitu co-starring with Christopher Walken, Isabella Rosselini, Benicio 
  del Toro and Vincent Gallo.
 
  Bhairitu then co-starred in the off-Broadway show A Minor Incident with 
  legendary songwriter Carole King, who was making her stage debut in the 
  play. The two collaborated on songs for her Capitol Records release City 
  Streets, including the song I Can't Stop Thinking About You, which 
  Bhairitu co-wrote and plays guitar and performs backing vocals on. It was 
  on stage with Carole King at London's Royal Albert Hall that Bhairitu was 
  spotted by the producers of a new West End musical Buddy: The Buddy Holly 
  Story.
 
  Buddy opened to rave reviews on 12 October 1989, at The Victoria Palace 
  Theater. Bhairitu's turn in the title role of Buddy Holly earned him a 
  nomination for the Laurence Olivier Award for Outstanding Performance by an 
  Actor in a Musical. The following year, Buddy at Broadway's Shubert Theater 
  in New York, and Bhairitu was nominated for a Tony Award for his 
  performance, as well as winning the Theater World Award for Best Broadway 
  Debut.
 
  After Buddy, Bhairitu appeared in the films Fathers  Sons, with Jeff 
  Goldblum, and as Jesus Christ opposite Harvey Keitel in Abel Ferrara's Bad 
  Lieutenant, for which he also performed and co-wrote the title song, Bad 
  Lieutenant with Ferrara. Bhairitu also appeared as Gene Vincent opposite 
  Donal Logue (as Eddie Cochran) in the play Be-Bop-A-Lula at Hollywood's 
  famed Theater/Theater before returning to the London stage for the 25th 
  anniversary revival of Hair at the Old Vic, in the role of Berger.
 
 
 
 
 That might have been a fun career but it wasn't mine.  I don't know of 
 anyone really named Bhairitu.  It's just a Hinduzation of Barry2.  Could 
 break it down to being Bhai for brother and Ritu which is an Indian 
 name albeit for a woman which would of course extend the joke further as 
 brother Ritu for some cognitive dissonance. What fun!
 
 Judy goes further into the ozone.  Here is the first paragraph she is 
 talking about:
 
 Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his incoherent 
 message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of 
 television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was chosen by 
 God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to brass tacks: 
 It is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise and focus 
 solely on his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but forces his 
 underlings to make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, Robin's underlings 
 don't much seem to mind being given such querulous orders. I guess it's hard 
 to free chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from the chains they revere. A 
 related observation is that there's something fishy about 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 08/18/2012 07:03 PM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 On 08/18/2012 05:42 PM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 On 08/18/2012 11:33 AM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@ 
 wrote:
 So, it's all about Robin.
 Actually none of it, nothing in any of those three posts, is
 about Robin. You got fooled; Bhairitu got fooled; let's see
 how many others do.

 Well gee Willy, I guess if Judy sez that it must be true.
 That despite the fact that the post I quoted had the word
 Robin in it some 47 times. Guess Judy must have read it
 as Tobin (or did she read it at all)? :-D
 Somehow I don't think az expected that Bhairitu would be
 one of the folks who would fall for the gag, but I could
 have told az he might, given his propensity to believe in
 nutty conspiracy theories.

 Still, it's hard to fathom how anybody with two brain cells
 to rub together could have read even just the first
 paragraph and thought it was about Robin. Heck, the second
 sentence in the first paragraph should have been enough to
 clue folks in that something wasn't kosher, even if their
 reading skills were so deficient as to prevent them from
 being able to decode Robin's message.

 The real stunner, however, is Bhairitu's claim above, that
 the appearance of Robin's name in the post is enough to
 demonstrate that it's about Robin.

 I mean, it boggles the mind. You just wouldn't expect that
 kind of stupidity from someone who had managed to make a
 solid career for themselves. A few highlights:

 Bhairitu found employment as a musician at various clubs in the Village, as 
 well as earning acting roles in film. His made his debut on the silver 
 screen in Abel Ferrara's China Girl, for which he also wrote the end-credit 
 song Midnight. Bhairitu went on to collaborate with Ferrara on several 
 film and music projects, including: Bad Lieutenant, in which Bhairitu 
 played Jesus Christ and co-wrote the end-credits song; Body Snatchers, 
 which featured the song I Want You Back; and The Funeral, which saw 
 Bhairitu co-starring with Christopher Walken, Isabella Rosselini, Benicio 
 del Toro and Vincent Gallo.

 Bhairitu then co-starred in the off-Broadway show A Minor Incident with 
 legendary songwriter Carole King, who was making her stage debut in the 
 play. The two collaborated on songs for her Capitol Records release City 
 Streets, including the song I Can't Stop Thinking About You, which 
 Bhairitu co-wrote and plays guitar and performs backing vocals on. It was 
 on stage with Carole King at London's Royal Albert Hall that Bhairitu was 
 spotted by the producers of a new West End musical Buddy: The Buddy Holly 
 Story.

 Buddy opened to rave reviews on 12 October 1989, at The Victoria Palace 
 Theater. Bhairitu's turn in the title role of Buddy Holly earned him a 
 nomination for the Laurence Olivier Award for Outstanding Performance by an 
 Actor in a Musical. The following year, Buddy at Broadway's Shubert Theater 
 in New York, and Bhairitu was nominated for a Tony Award for his 
 performance, as well as winning the Theater World Award for Best Broadway 
 Debut.

 After Buddy, Bhairitu appeared in the films Fathers  Sons, with Jeff 
 Goldblum, and as Jesus Christ opposite Harvey Keitel in Abel Ferrara's Bad 
 Lieutenant, for which he also performed and co-wrote the title song, Bad 
 Lieutenant with Ferrara. Bhairitu also appeared as Gene Vincent opposite 
 Donal Logue (as Eddie Cochran) in the play Be-Bop-A-Lula at Hollywood's 
 famed Theater/Theater before returning to the London stage for the 25th 
 anniversary revival of Hair at the Old Vic, in the role of Berger.

 That might have been a fun career but it wasn't mine.
 Your name appears in it 11 times (it's much shorter than az's
 post).

 I don't know of anyone really named Bhairitu.
 It originally said Barry, but I replaced it with Bhairitu
 because that's the name you use here.

 snip
 Judy goes further into the ozone.  Here is the first paragraph
 she is talking about:

 Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his incoherent 
 message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of 
 television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was chosen by 
 God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to brass tacks: 
 It is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise and focus 
 solely on his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but forces his 
 underlings to make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, Robin's 
 underlings don't much seem to mind being given such querulous orders. I 
 guess it's hard to free chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from the chains 
 they revere. A related observation is that there's something fishy about 
 Robin's insults. I think he's up to something, something beer-guzzling and 
 perhaps even shameless.

 Now who 

[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 08/18/2012 07:03 PM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
snip
  Judy goes further into the ozone.  Here is the first paragraph
  she is talking about:
 
  Robin W Carlsen has spoken, but it's impossible to decode his incoherent 
  message. Perhaps he's saying that all any child needs is a big dose of 
  television every day. Then again, he might be babbling that he was chosen 
  by God as the trustee of His wishes and desires. Let's get down to brass 
  tacks: It is appalling to me that he has managed to ignore compromise and 
  focus solely on his personal agenda. And let me tell you, he all but 
  forces his underlings to make our lives a living hell. Interestingly, 
  Robin's underlings don't much seem to mind being given such querulous 
  orders. I guess it's hard to free chauvinistic, pompous luftmenschen from 
  the chains they revere. A related observation is that there's something 
  fishy about Robin's insults. I think he's up to something, something 
  beer-guzzling and perhaps even shameless.
 
  Now who is that about?
 
  Not Robin. The only sentences that could conceivably
  apply to Robin are the first (if one has poor reading
  comprehension) and the next-to-last (a matter of opinion,
  and very vague to boot).
 
 Bullshit.  You really must think people are stupid here, Judy.
 Obviously the paragraph is about Robin.

Right, so obviously that you can't make a case that any of
the assertions in it apply to Robin except the first and
the next-to-last. Whereas I've made a case for none of them
except perhaps those two as applicable.

Bhairitu, you embarrass yourself. The people here aren't
stupid (most of them, at any rate).






[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Many of the phrases in the original post (#317358) exist in other documents on 
the web as far back as 2005 as far as I can tell using a small sample of 
phrases from the post. Other phrases only show up on FFL. A lot of material 
appears to have been accommodated to create the post. It is entertaining and 
oddly applicable. 

Most of what we say and think is recycled from elsewhere, even if we give it a 
new form. Substitution of Robin's name gives it a sense of coherence (kind of 
like Robin's writing which has a sense of coherence, but tends not to make 
sense a lot of times). 

I actually first mistyped the word 'coherence', as 'conherence', which I 
suppose could mean a state of bringing together for the purpose conning 
(derived from con - persuade to do or believe something, typically by use of a 
deception),  which often seems to be Robin's operational modality.

In a response to Robin which I never finished, at one point I was trying to see 
how obscure I could make a simple statement. I selected as a test phrase 'I 
think I will take a walk.'

Then I went to Google and looked up definitions of the words and put those in 
place of the original words, and repeated the process for several minutes. 'I 
think I will take a walk' became:

'In making reference to myself as a willful doer of a fact or process of doing 
something, typically to achieve an aim, i.e., and agent, and taking into 
account consideration when deciding on a possible action, your speaker here 
intends, desires, wishes, to make happen by reaching and grasping, to move at 
an arranged or constituting of a constant or definite pattern and to an 
acceptable extent a only at a low speed; not quick or fast, a unit of length 
representing the distance between two successive steps by lifting and setting 
down each foot in turn, never at once having both feet off the solid surface of 
the celestial body moving in an elliptical orbit around a star on which we 
live.'

What can one's 'personal ontology' do with such drivel? Apparently quite a lot, 
at least if you are Robin.

I must admit I never really get the idea of 'personal ontology', which seems to 
be defined in the dictionary as 'a branch of metaphysics dealing with the 
nature of being as affecting, or belonging to a particular person rather than 
to anyone else'. By focusing on personal aspects, Robin divides and conquers, 
because it is on that level that we are weakest, individuated and separate from 
everything, it is where we cannot be whole.



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 Many of the phrases in the original post (#317358) exist in other documents 
 on the web as far back as 2005 as far as I can tell using a small sample of 
 phrases from the post. Other phrases only show up on FFL. A lot of material 
 appears to have been accommodated to create the post. It is entertaining and 
 oddly applicable.

Actually very little of it is applicable, oddly or otherwise.
 
 Most of what we say and think is recycled from elsewhere, even if we give it 
 a new form. Substitution of Robin's name gives it a sense of coherence (kind 
 of like Robin's writing which has a sense of coherence, but tends not to make 
 sense a lot of times).

Tends not to make sense to *you*, Xeno. And the two senses
of coherence (whether you can make sense of Robin's posts
or not) are not even kind of like each other.

 I actually first mistyped the word 'coherence', as 'conherence', which I 
 suppose could mean a state of bringing together for the purpose conning 
 (derived from con - persuade to do or believe something, typically by use of 
 a deception),  which often seems to be Robin's operational modality.

Yet you have never been able to cite any evidence of
deception in Robin's posts. That's the way Vaj makes his
accusations, never citing any examples.

snip
 I must admit I never really get the idea of 'personal ontology', which seems 
 to be defined in the dictionary as 'a branch of metaphysics dealing with the 
 nature of being as affecting, or belonging to a particular person rather than 
 to anyone else'. By focusing on personal aspects, Robin divides and conquers, 
 because it is on that level that we are weakest, individuated and separate 
 from everything, it is where we cannot be whole.

As you say, you have never gotten the idea or the points
Robin makes about first-person ontology. They have nothing
to do with divide and conquer. If Robin has any viewpoint
that he would dearly love for others to recognize, it's
that our first-person ontology is where we are most whole
and most strong.

I would suggest that if you have a sense of this viewpoint
dividing and conquering, it's because you have somehow
become alienated from the experience of your own first-
person ontology.

Which doesn't mean it's gone. Obviously it still runs you,
or you wouldn't have written this post the way you did.

You haven't made any kind of case against Robin here. All
you've done is slung insults, and you've done it sloppily
and dishonestly to boot. It's really beneath you.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Ravi Chivukula
OMG, what a bunch of clueless, vain, petty fools - Bhairitu  Xeno, dear Judy, 
I bow down to your patience in dealing with these petty mind, utterly 
threatened by Robin's brilliance. St. Share or St. Judy - oh no what a dilemma?

Having said I did find dumbaz's gags very funny, laughing loud reading another 
one his posts, the one Share responded to, while waiting for my dinner order 
here at a restaurant. That these morons are so stuck in their heads is really 
sad - they could have just had fun, come with witty responses, retorts but all 
we have is their repugnant prejudices exposed in such a pathetic fashion. 

It always baffles me when I see people taking Xeno's mental constructs so 
seriously and I know I have always been curious on how he interacts with normal 
people in his daily life, I have asked him before and all I got was more mental 
constructs.

Love,
Ravi




On Aug 18, 2012, at 8:45 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 Many of the phrases in the original post (#317358) exist in other documents 
 on the web as far back as 2005 as far as I can tell using a small sample of 
 phrases from the post. Other phrases only show up on FFL. A lot of material 
 appears to have been accommodated to create the post. It is entertaining and 
 oddly applicable.

Actually very little of it is applicable, oddly or otherwise.

 Most of what we say and think is recycled from elsewhere, even if we give it 
 a new form. Substitution of Robin's name gives it a sense of coherence (kind 
 of like Robin's writing which has a sense of coherence, but tends not to make 
 sense a lot of times).

Tends not to make sense to *you*, Xeno. And the two senses
of coherence (whether you can make sense of Robin's posts
or not) are not even kind of like each other.

 I actually first mistyped the word 'coherence', as 'conherence', which I 
 suppose could mean a state of bringing together for the purpose conning 
 (derived from con - persuade to do or believe something, typically by use of 
 a deception), which often seems to be Robin's operational modality.

Yet you have never been able to cite any evidence of
deception in Robin's posts. That's the way Vaj makes his
accusations, never citing any examples.

snip
 I must admit I never really get the idea of 'personal ontology', which seems 
 to be defined in the dictionary as 'a branch of metaphysics dealing with the 
 nature of being as affecting, or belonging to a particular person rather than 
 to anyone else'. By focusing on personal aspects, Robin divides and conquers, 
 because it is on that level that we are weakest, individuated and separate 
 from everything, it is where we cannot be whole.

As you say, you have never gotten the idea or the points
Robin makes about first-person ontology. They have nothing
to do with divide and conquer. If Robin has any viewpoint
that he would dearly love for others to recognize, it's
that our first-person ontology is where we are most whole
and most strong.

I would suggest that if you have a sense of this viewpoint
dividing and conquering, it's because you have somehow
become alienated from the experience of your own first-
person ontology.

Which doesn't mean it's gone. Obviously it still runs you,
or you wouldn't have written this post the way you did.

You haven't made any kind of case against Robin here. All
you've done is slung insults, and you've done it sloppily
and dishonestly to boot. It's really beneath you.



[FairfieldLife] Re: An open Letter To Robin Vol. 1

2012-08-18 Thread Robin Carlsen


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:

 Many of the phrases in the original post (#317358) exist in other documents 
 on the web as far back as 2005 as far as I can tell using a small sample of 
 phrases from the post. Other phrases only show up on FFL. A lot of material 
 appears to have been accommodated to create the post. It is entertaining and 
 oddly applicable. 
 
 Most of what we say and think is recycled from elsewhere, even if we give it 
 a new form. Substitution of Robin's name gives it a sense of coherence (kind 
 of like Robin's writing which has a sense of coherence, but tends not to make 
 sense a lot of times). 
 
 I actually first mistyped the word 'coherence', as 'conherence', which I 
 suppose could mean a state of bringing together for the purpose conning 
 (derived from con - persuade to do or believe something, typically by use of 
 a deception),  which often seems to be Robin's operational modality.
 
 In a response to Robin which I never finished, at one point I was trying to 
 see how obscure I could make a simple statement. I selected as a test phrase 
 'I think I will take a walk.'
 
 Then I went to Google and looked up definitions of the words and put those in 
 place of the original words, and repeated the process for several minutes. 'I 
 think I will take a walk' became:
 
 'In making reference to myself as a willful doer of a fact or process of 
 doing something, typically to achieve an aim, i.e., and agent, and taking 
 into account consideration when deciding on a possible action, your speaker 
 here intends, desires, wishes, to make happen by reaching and grasping, to 
 move at an arranged or constituting of a constant or definite pattern and to 
 an acceptable extent a only at a low speed; not quick or fast, a unit of 
 length representing the distance between two successive steps by lifting and 
 setting down each foot in turn, never at once having both feet off the solid 
 surface of the celestial body moving in an elliptical orbit around a star on 
 which we live.'
 
 What can one's 'personal ontology' do with such drivel? Apparently quite a 
 lot, at least if you are Robin.
 
 I must admit I never really get the idea of 'personal ontology', which seems 
 to be defined in the dictionary as 'a branch of metaphysics dealing with the 
 nature of being as affecting, or belonging to a particular person rather than 
 to anyone else'. By focusing on personal aspects, Robin divides and conquers, 
 because it is on that level that we are weakest, individuated and separate 
 from everything, it is where we cannot be whole.

RESPONSE: 
http://tinyurl.com/d8fpk6z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP3c1h8v2ZQfeature=related