[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-12 Thread TurquoiseB
Akasha_108 wrote a lot of stuff -- 322 lines of stuff, in fact, about the issue in the subject line. While I appreciate the effort, what he/she is talking about strikes me as pure theory, and I really can't getit up for an argument about pure theory right now. IMO, if one is NOT *living*

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience, it is fun to contemplate such issues. And thank you to each and every one of you who contributed to this thread. But, having noticed that even deep immersement in these ideas over a period of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-12 Thread Llundrub
... Yada. Prove the shit. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 4:21 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My problem with akasha's specious - it's not confusing - it's not adharmic - diatribe was that it was more than four sentences long. Which tells me that too much time must be invested in it to make it a reality. If it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-12 Thread Rick
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snipped the whole thing) First of all bear with me because I have a bad cold and my brain is baking. I thought this was a great post, not all that hard to comprehend but to keep all those ideas organized and visible

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-12 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (snipped the whole thing) First of all bear with me because I have a bad cold and my brain is baking. I thought this was a great post, not all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-12 Thread Vaj
On May 12, 2005, at 5:32 PM, cardemaister wrote: Desire in the beginning came upon that, (desire) that was the first seed of mind. Sages seeking in their hearts with wisdom found out the bond of the existent in the non-existent. Sorry, that's one of my favourite verses , and at least in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-12 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Here is a little piece from MMY Gita commentary, ch. 3 verse43: 'Having known him': this means having known the indweller of the body in his true nature as Being, separate from the whole field of activity of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-11 Thread jim_flanegin
with all due respect, please quit digging your fingernails into my arm. Thanks, Jim --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB: I would believe in Free Will regardless of any belief in God. It's the pivotal teaching at the basis of karma. If Free

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-11 Thread anonymousff
In my experience, it is fun to contemplate such issues. And thank you to each and every one of you who contributed to this thread. But, having noticed that even deep immersement in these ideas over a period of years has not resulted in a gestalt awakening to what is really happening here, I go

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-11 Thread jim_flanegin
I don't understand the mechanics, though I enjoy the result. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got it. How ya doin'? Jim My health isn't bad, thanks. At this point, I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-11 Thread anonymousff
Rick, I take it that this is your experience. For instance, is this why you participate in the Weds nights at Tom T's? What does it mean to chip away? Isn't a gestalt shift an all at once thing. My experience is that experience contains its own knowledge. I use the word experience in quotes

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-11 Thread Rick Archer
on 5/11/05 4:11 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take it that this is your experience. For instance, is this why you participate in the Weds nights at Tom T's? Fair to say. What does it mean to chip away? Isn't a gestalt shift an all at once thing. Yes. After chipping away

[FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-11 Thread anonymousff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But did you realize this the first time you pondered it? Or after years of spiritual practice? - I never pondered it before. Years of spiritual practice, as in meditation, but no self-inquiry workshops or satsangs.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Individuality: Outward Projection vs. Inner Subjective Sense of No Indiv. Doer

2005-05-11 Thread Peter Sutphen
Nice post anon. Please post more often. I like it when people talk about that bus that runs people over! -Peter --- anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I take it that this is your experience. For instance, is this why you participate in the Weds nights at Tom T's? What does it