Got nailed with this winner concept, didn't you Ravi. Having to twist
this one around to make it more kosher.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
wrote:
>
> And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective of the one who wanted to
challenge me. Now having humiliated this person, I
On 12/28/2011 09:43 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
> AlrightI might buy most of this.I am "taken in" by you...you have
> pushed me and I appreciate that. But, while I do understand the concept that
> you might feel the other persons pain after humiliating themwhy choose
> that tactic? It's
know that that was
>> actually your first response when confronted...someone on this forum might
>> beat you to it :)Â
>>
>> "And I will be the first person, if needed to soothe, love, apply medicine
>> Denise."Â
>>
>> >___
thray1 steve.sundur@
> > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:58 PM
> > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to
> Ravi Chivukula
> > >
> > >
> > >Â
> > >DEFCON 2
>
ed for.
>
>
>
> >
> > From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:58 PM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to
Ravi Chivukula
> &g
On Dec 28, 2011, at 8:13 PM, azgrey wrote:
> Speaking of mad as a March hare.
>
> Just sayin'.
Yeah, I know. I haven't been in the CIA for years, I've been so busy with
Indiana Jones trying to find Q.
ight beat you to it :)Â
>
> "And I will be the first person, if needed to soothe, love, apply
medicine Denise."Â
>
> >
> > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, D
get back to you...or, maybe not :)
Love, ~Em...
>
> From: Ravi Chivukula
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:18 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
>
gt;
> From: Ravi Chivukula
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:09 PM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
>
>
>
>And I will be the first person, if needed t
UT...how do I translate that to Pacific Time?
>
>
>
> >
> > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:37 PM
> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-p
Thank god, DEFCON 1 has never been called for.
>
> From: seventhray1
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:58 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
; P.S. I might be close on my posts. When the post count goes out...what is
>> UT...how do I translate that to Pacific Time?
>>
>> From: Ravi Chivukula
>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re:
the post count goes
out...what is UT...how do I translate that to Pacific Time?
> >
> > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@...
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-perfor
la
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 9:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
> Chivukula
>
>
> And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective of the one who wanted to
> challenge me. Now h
Such hifalutin words. Hifalutin concepts. Existance made me do it.
What a a great invention.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula
wrote:
>
> "
> Hm..the "winner" huh. Your statement here is a bit
convoluted. If you have no agenda, then why do you have to "win." Yo
day, December 28, 2011 9:37 PM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
>
>
>
>And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective of the one who wanted to challenge
>me. Now having humiliated this person, I feel that person's
And Denise, yes Winner from the perspective of the one who wanted to challenge
me. Now having humiliated this person, I feel that person's emotions - hurt,
pain, anger, because they are another part of me, how can I not feel hurt?
But I am able to quickly internalize and transform these emotions
"
Hm..the "winner" huh. Your statement here is a bit convoluted. If
you have no agenda, then why do you have to "win." You make some assumptions
here about "the person who approaches you.".."
Ravi - Approaches with an agenda that is, as in to confront me. Winner only
from their p
;you remain untouched." This is your
reality then?
>
> From: Ravi Chivukula
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 8:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
>
>
st.
>
> Putting people in labeled boxes without their consent to serve your
> interests is another classic symptom of NPD, btw. Now, you've exhibited
> two. One more, and maybe I'll slap a label on you.
>
> Probably not though...it strikes me as kind of crazy...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2B6SjMh_w
>
Thanks Wayback. I appreciate a little nod of support. But the fact of the
matter is that I think the whole affair is being kept alive by Robin for some
reason. On the one hand he claims to be sensitive to those who were involved
in his activities way back when.
Then, in almost the same sen
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
>
> I'd sure like to know the burden of proof you are looking for Judy.
> Evidently details such as time and place, nuances are not good enough
> for you. Vaj must keep a complete dossier on Robin, which he must also
> have pretty mu
r 28, 2011 5:51 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
>
>
>
>
>
>Emily Reyn:
>> I tried my hand at interspersing my responses...
>>
>Just a hint:
>
>Use > before what they say, and then post your
>re
Emily Reyn:
> I tried my hand at interspersing my responses...
>
Just a hint:
Use > before what they say, and then post your
replies below that. That way, we can tell what
they say and your replies. (Try looking at Judy's
posts to get the formatting).
Use the ENTER key to break lines at 40
I'd sure like to know the burden of proof you are looking for Judy.
Evidently details such as time and place, nuances are not good enough
for you. Vaj must keep a complete dossier on Robin, which he must also
have pretty much memorized since he posts in nearly zero lag time in
response to Robin's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe Vaj has been interested in posting on this TM oriented forum for
> > years and years and years because he had personal experience as a teacher
ations of him - its his
>> choice, after all.Â
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________
>> > From: seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
>> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>> >Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:18 PM
>> >Subject: [Fair
; >obsession that he posted, wrote him off as not worth my time
> >> >to read, and said so. The realization that he was actually
> >> >crazy came later, after he started to make up things to act
> >> >outraged about, and started to abuse people who failed to
> >&
__
> From: seventhray1
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 3:18 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
>
>
>
>Emily, I feel obliged to give you fair warning. You are likely one post away
&
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> > You could say that. Vaj has the *right* to do what he's
> > doing; but is it *right* that he's doing it?
> >
>
> Enough is known about Vaj to clear up any mystery of
_
> > From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:31 AM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to
Ravi Chivukula
> >
> >
> >Â
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
> You could say that. Vaj has the *right* to do what he's
> doing; but is it *right* that he's doing it?
>
Enough is known about Vaj to clear up any mystery of what relationship,
if any, he had with Robin and his followers. Perhaps at som
Alrighty, I tried my hand at interspersing my responses...
>
> From: turquoiseb
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 2:31 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to R
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote:
>
> What we *do* say is that we *don't* call any and all
> TM critics liars. Most of the critics here are *not*
> liars. Vaj lies and Barry lies. Barry lies primarily
> about TMers (especially the TMers on FFL, as he does
> here); Vaj l
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> What IS it about diehard TMers when their "fallback
> position," when they have been unable to get someone
> to argue head-to-head with them so that they can "win"
> or at the very least claim to, becomes trying to go
> for the olde, tire
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> Maybe Vaj has been interested in posting on this TM oriented
> forum for years and years and years because he had personal
> experience as a teacher of TM and has since changed his
> perspective on its value like most of us he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> Robin,
>
> Has it ocurred to you that Vaj has built his case, (if you
> want to call it a case) on specific details. Your response
> has been to declare that it is all a lie. Now, if there
> were a bench of 12 jurors listening to t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> Did you ever consider that Vaj may be behind the crop circles? Think about
> it, it kinda makes sense. If I wasn't wearing my new Under Armour aluminum
> foil undies (boxer briefs) with the patented wick flow cooling system
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardatrwilliamsdotus"
wrote:
>
[Barry wrote:]
> > I think that anyone who claims to be enlightenment
> > has a lot to live up to...
> >
> You are not making any sense. Live up to what - your
> expectations?
>
> Besides, you once said that you thought
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> Emily, if you feel that Robin is sane, and coherent, please
> explain this (which I looked up after being alerted in email
> that RWC had lost it so heavily that he no longer even knew
> who he was talking to on this forum).
Note that Ba
Did you ever consider that Vaj may be behind the crop circles? Think about it,
it kinda makes sense. If I wasn't wearing my new Under Armour aluminum foil
undies (boxer briefs) with the patented wick flow cooling system weave I would
be a little freaked out right now. But since I do, I am imm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry Barry. I may have this wrong...I thought I was
> > referring to a conversation between you and Zarzari, not Vag.
That's exactly what Emily was doing, referring t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues"
wrote:
>
> Maybe Vaj has been interested in posting on this TM oriented forum for years
> and years and years because he had personal experience as a teacher of TM and
> has since changed his perspective on its value like most of us her
Maybe Vaj has been interested in posting on this TM oriented forum for years
and years and years because he had personal experience as a teacher of TM and
has since changed his perspective on its value like most of us here.
And maybe Vaj's obvious intererest in Robin comes from his experiences w
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
>
> Robin,
>
> Has it ocurred to you that Vaj has built his case, (if you want to call
> it a case) on specific details. Your response has been to declare that
> it is all a lie. Now, if there were a bench of 12 jurors listening to
authfriend:
> Robin, delighted you're back. I was afraid you
> were through with FFL...
>
After reading so many of the pompous claims
by the Turq and the Vaj, this Robin guy is like
breathing fresh air.
If folks aren't reading Curtis and Robin, what
are they here for? It really gets boring re
Robin,
Has it ocurred to you that Vaj has built his case, (if you want to call
it a case) on specific details. Your response has been to declare that
it is all a lie. Now, if there were a bench of 12 jurors listening to
the evidence, on the issue of "Did this Vajradhatu know or meet this
Robin
RESPONSE: Somebody tell me that I am a sap. Somebody tell me that this is all
made up. Because Steve's responses sound credible to me.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
> Robin,
>
> I am willing to look like a fool for the purposes of trying to sort things
> out.
Robin,
I am willing to look like a fool for the purposes of trying to sort things out.
Vaj replies to several points with regards to your career in specific detail.
He tells me directly that on several occassions he met you, or saw you in
person.
On the other hand he said he had a video sh
So, it's all about Robin.
P.S. Your post was kind of short, though. LoL!!!
turquoiseb:
> Emily, a couple of points. First, Vaj and I are
> different people, not one person with two names
> separated by a forward slash. You are the second
> person in two days to not be able to tell the
> diff
> > The weirdest thing I remember was his going onto
> > campus and shouting at the buildings to break down
> > the demonic forces which were supposedly endangering
> > MIU...
> >
turquoiseb:
> Vaj, as I've said before, all of this was *long* after
> my time in the TMO...
>
Everyone knows by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> On Dec 28, 2011, at 6:11 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> >
> > What I see is the same pattern that was established and
> > legally censured in Iowa courts -- a disconnect with reality
> > that involves becoming highly obsessed with people who don't
> >
On Dec 28, 2011, at 6:11 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
What I see is the same pattern that was established and
legally censured in Iowa courts -- a disconnect with reality
that involves becoming highly obsessed with people who don't
react to him the way he wants them to, and devolves into
being abusive
On Dec 28, 2011, at 12:48 AM, maskedzebra wrote:
> What you have declared in this post makes me out to be a liar. Am I a liar,
> Steve?
No, but you're still walking around with that boogar on your face.
Emily, if you feel that Robin is sane, and coherent, please
explain this (which I looked up after being alerted in email
that RWC had lost it so heavily that he no longer even knew
who he was talking to on this forum). In this particular
tirade, he launches into an abusive analysis *of the wrong
pe
se labels. Well, come up with your
own. When doing so, I hope you aren't as limited as those
who have to rely on epithets like "stupid" or "liar." Or,
for that matter, "Vag."
> >
> > From: turquoiseb
> >To:
are all a bit crazy...you too, IMO. I admit to appreciating
the "craziness" and "absurdity" of life.
>____
> From: turquoiseb
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:36 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SE
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
>
> Ok, that's an unambiguous reply. Thanks.
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:41 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
> >
> > > I do have one question, Vaj, if you're listening. You are on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote:
>
> From my years of experience, I am of the opinion that you/Barry
> have made some critical and major errors in judgment and should
> have preceded your diagnostic conclusions with a well-researched
> "fatal flaw analysis," at the very l
jMh_w
>________
> From: zarzari_786
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 4:26 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
>
>
>
>
>--- In Fairfie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote:
>
> RESPONSE: I am grateful to you for pointing out some of my
> misattributions, Judy. I have made the appropriate corrections
> below. By the way, you were right: I was not planning on
> posting again at FFL. But I couldn't help acting wh
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
>
>
> Ok, that's an unambiguous reply. Thanks.
RESPONSE: You're doing it again Stevo! This reply of Vaj's actually did not
satisfy you at all; however, you suddenly felt that it might serve your
purposes to deny this experience and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
Somebody tell me that I am a sap. Somebody tell me that this is all made up.
Because Vaj's responses sound credible to me.
Stevie Wonderboy:
What about Robin's responses? He is saying that Vaj is lying, is
misrepresenting the fac
group of people.
>
> From: Vaj
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
>
>
>
>
>
>On Dec 27, 2011, at 6:47 PM, maskedzebra wrote
Ok, that's an unambiguous reply. Thanks.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:41 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
>
> > I do have one question, Vaj, if you're listening. You are on record
saying that you were not allowed to attend MIU by your parents. But
evidentl
On Dec 27, 2011, at 8:41 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
> I do have one question, Vaj, if you're listening. You are on record saying
> that you were not allowed to attend MIU by your parents. But evidently you
> were in Fairfield to witness certain events in RWC saga. Do I have this
> right? Than
I do have one question, Vaj, if you're listening. You are on record
saying that you were not allowed to attend MIU by your parents. But
evidently you were in Fairfield to witness certain events in RWC saga.
Do I have this right? Thanks for a reply if you are so inclined.
> > I saw your expre
Somebody tell me that I am a sap. Somebody tell me that this is all
made up. Because Vaj's responses sound credible to me.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2011, at 2:14 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
>
> > Vaj: There's more evidence to suggest this, as a common 'brag
On Dec 27, 2011, at 7:43 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
> > It is worth noting that most of the people discussing
> > these supposed higher states of consciousness that some
> > on this forum claim to have had are doing so completely
> > from a theoretical basis. They have personally never
> > had such e
> It is worth noting that most of the people discussing
> these supposed higher states of consciousness that some
> on this forum claim to have had are doing so completely
> from a theoretical basis. They have personally never
> had such experiences, and are basing anything they say
> on theories
On Dec 27, 2011, at 6:47 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
> But I couldn't help acting when I saw the post to which this is a response.
Well, look who fell for the bait.
RESPONSE: I am grateful to you for pointing out some of my misattributions,
Judy. I have made the appropriate corrections below. By the way, you were
right: I was not planning on posting again at FFL. But I couldn't help acting
when I saw the post to which this is a response. I appreciate your
ring, uncertain.â
>
>
>
>
> From: Vaj vajradhatu@...
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:09:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter
to Ravi Chivukul
On Dec 27, 2011, at 5:09 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > Vaj: And I wonder how many present day psychologists she inspired? Perhaps
> > many. IMO, Dr. Norah Carlsen, Ph.D. is the more interesting story I'd like
> > to hear. My
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, maskedzebra wrote:
>
>
> Vaj: And I wonder how many present day psychologists she inspired? Perhaps
> many. IMO, Dr. Norah Carlsen, Ph.D. is the more interesting story I'd like to
> hear. My belated condolences on the passing of this incredible woman.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> Hey Boob:
>
> On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Bob Price wrote:
>
> > Vague,
> >
> > You and Barry give new meaning to the epithet "Pond Scum", first
> > you go after Robin's ex-wife, speculating on their love life,
> > and now its his mother (
Robin, delighted you're back. I was afraid you were
through with FFL.
Several attribution corrections below (you have me
confused with zarzari and zarzari confused with Barry);
plus a backup to your remarks concerning MMY's attitude
toward your activities back in the day.
--- In FairfieldLife@yah
On Dec 27, 2011, at 2:14 PM, maskedzebra wrote:
Vaj: There's more evidence to suggest this, as a common 'bragging
claim' of Carlsen followers was the fact that he wrote "The
Discovery of Grace" with commentary (I believe, or one of his
tomes) by staying up all night and simply dictating it
Actually, she did give me the time of day
>Alas, we never met. But a relative did send me the family tree.
***BP:
Your VAGUENESS,
Like I said:
vague |vāg|
adjective
of uncertain, indefinite, or unclear character or meaning : many patie
On Dec 27, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Bob Price wrote:
From: Vaj
>>>Actually, she did give me the time of day
***BP: Now we're getting somewhere, Dr. Carlsen treated you and
Barry for your Oedipus complex.
Alas, we never met. But a relative did send me the
Judy: According to Maharishi and according to tradition this
[losing Unity Consciousness] is not possible. In this
case it wasn't fully established.
Zarzari: Either that or it never happened in the first place.
That is, from everything that has been reported here
that I've read, the entire
From: Vaj
>>>Actually, she did give me the time of day
***BP: Now we're getting somewhere, Dr. Carlsen treated you and Barry for your
Oedipus complex.
Vague,
Don't ever let anyone tell you you're not terminally unique, I am absolutely
convinced you're
On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Bob Price wrote:
And what about my accusation that you're "pond scum"?
Pretty hard in the winter Boob.
And what about my accusation that you're "pond scum"?
From: Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 10:44:28 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
Chivukula
Hey Bo
Hey Boob:
On Dec 27, 2011, at 1:40 PM, Bob Price wrote:
Vague,
You and Barry give new meaning to the epithet "Pond Scum", first
you go after Robin's ex-wife, speculating on their love life, and
now its his mother (neither of whom would give either of you the
time of day---opps, I guess t
nt.: from French, or from Latin vagus ‘wandering, uncertain.’
From: Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 6:09:43 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
Chivukula
On Dec
On Dec 26, 2011, at 7:12 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786
wrote:
>
> According to Maharishi and according to tradition this
> [losing Unity Consciousness] is not possible. In this
> case it wasn't fully established.
Either that or it never happened in
> > > > Well, almost an hour by the Web site
> > > > timestamps. But no matter.
> > > >
> > > Oh, yes, I must have been in Turya state of
> > > consciousness then (wink wink willy)
> > >
> > Very impressive! So, we are agreed,
> >
zarzari_786:
> Yes we are agreed.
>
> > but I thought it was R
>
> > It is worth noting that most of the people discussing
> > these supposed higher states of consciousness that some
> > on this forum claim to have had are doing so completely
> > from a theoretical basis. They have personally never
> > had such experiences, and are basing anything they say
On Dec 26, 2011, at 5:31 PM, zarzari_786 wrote:
Maharishi had a word for this, for people slipping into Brahman (or
so) and not being really grounded: Moody Brahman
Yeah, I remember him, didn't he play the sax?
> > > The thing that causes me to believe in this theory
> > > is the fact that RWC refuses to even consider it,
> > > even as a possibility. *His* subjective view is the
> > > only possible explanation. That's pretty much
> > > classic NPD/hypomania.
> > >
> > Some people who believe they are e
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>
> On 12/26/2011 11:30 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > It is worth noting that most of the people discussing
> > these supposed higher states of consciousness that some
> > on this forum claim to have had are doing so completely
> > from a theoreti
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> > The thing that causes me to believe in this theory
> > is the fact that RWC refuses to even consider it,
> > even as a possibility. *His* subjective view is the
> > only possi
On 12/26/2011 02:31 PM, zarzari_786 wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote:
>> On 12/26/2011 04:12 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
According to Maharishi and according to tradition this
[losing Unity Consciousnes
: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:52 PM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
> >Chivukula
> >
> >
> >Â
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> >>
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yah
t; >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 3:52 PM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
> >Chivukula
> >
> >
> >Â
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
ife] Re: SECOND Open [non-performance] Letter to Ravi
>Chivukula
>
>
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
>> > Of course. He is smart enough, he makes everyone eith
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
> > Of course. He is smart enough, he makes everyone either
> > follower (or admirer) or opponent. (black and white, ask
> > Curtis) In reality he is a poor and old guy, who's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
> > >
> > > According to Maharishi and according to tradition this
> > > [losing Unity Consciousness] is not poss
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, zarzari_786 wrote:
> >
> > According to Maharishi and according to tradition this
> > [losing Unity Consciousness] is not possible. In this
> > case it wasn't fully established.
>
> Either that
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