Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2018-01-13 Thread rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
still embedded as fealty test. This basically means your at war with the United 
States of America you have 24 hours to surrender.



Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2018-01-12 Thread skymt...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thank you for your responses. The information and insights that you provide are 
helpful.  

 Regarding the administration's areas of concerns, such as non-MV Yagyas, I 
assume these are present tense concerns -- and not concerns for some minor 
things in the past. 
 

 I understand the admin concerns if an applicant is currently sponsoring 
yagyas, or actively practicing or promoting some other self-development 
methods. However, I assume that it is not an issue if one is not currently (nor 
for many years) involved with any other program or practices. 
 

 For example, if this is the policy, then some type of limited yagya 
sponsorship 20 years ago would be irrelevant to participating in ILC and/or 
Dome programs. I know you don't speak for the course administration, but any 
insights that you may have on the experience of contemporary IAA and ILC 
applicants would be helpful. 
 

 I do notice that the ILC application appears distinctly gentle and 
considerate.  I assume this reflects a newer, kinder and mature approach 
compared to some more rigid admin guidelines and policies that may have existed 
in the past. For example, the application asks, 
 

 "Please let us know the names of the two TM Teachers you are most well known 
to, so we can give one or both of them a call. ... This is not a compulsory 
question. If you don't know two TM Teachers, that's okay. ..."
   
 Thanks.


Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2018-01-12 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


 Whatever yagya..  
 If you want to come to Fairfield for respite or to ‘feel the vibe’ just simply 
apply. It is pretty straight forward for many.

 

RajaWilliam here below or some people may feel supporting various yagya 
programs is even irrelevant as to whether someone should be in membership 
meditating in the group but there is a small ownership group inside who have 
their own creed about this that has become religious-like test amongst 
themselves as to what Maharishi may have said at some point and whether that 
can be changed. 

 Of course yagya and other divisions of M Vedic Science are not relevant to 
most meditators who come simply as practitioners. All along people have 
practically used civil disobedience to be in the communal collective of the 
Domes as practitioners when it comes to what creedal religious-like rigidities 
were embedded in the membership guidelines over private life..  

 The powers that be took a chance to change this recently last month, down to 
some short simple paragraphs of guideline as to whether someone simply has 
learned ™ and the ™-sidhis and would simply practice the program as taught but 
they did not take the simple path and have kept to their creedlism with a 
couple or three non-competes like the non-Maharishi yagya still embedded as 
fealty test.
 

 Go ahead and apply. 
 They want meditator program numbers in the Domes now and they are not 
intending to be as confrontational as they once were with the membership.
 

 The Domes are spiritual wonders of the world as places to meditate. Come and 
be in them if you can.
 Best Regards from Fairfield, Iowa,
 .D
 

 # 
 
 rajawilliamsmith writes: The yagaya program now is not set up to Maharishi's 
teachings.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 

 S, Actually you are the kind of person that is hoped for to have come back. 
Come regardless of what you may have heard of the past administrative state of 
culture here. The Domes are fabulous places to meditate even so. There is a 
great and deep spiritual practice community here. The administrative staff want 
to hear that if you join the group here you’ll practice in the Dome ™ and the 
™-Sidhis program as instructed. That is fair enough as far as their 
facilitating it. The assembly office staff has nothing to do with editing the 
guidelines or policy so there is no point contending with them otherwise about 
the state of the guidelines. 

 The guidelines have been some remediated down now from how restrictive they 
once were over people’s private lives, as they were written and cobbled before. 
Now they are down to three restricting areas: people who particularly have 
studied with and practice Art of Living practices, people who promote or may be 
too involved with other spiritual teachers, and people who promote the use of 
non-Maharishi yagya. The main interest other than in those particular 
paragraphs of the guidelines is that the intent is in facilitating the program 
for people practicing ™ and the ™ Sidhis program simply as instructed, 
uncorrupted by other practices. So it is.  

 With your being out of affiliation for so long, in applying they may wonder 
where you have been(?) And, of course, keeping even these remaining non-compete 
clauses keeps an ‘administrative’ staff busy adjudicating membership that way. 
Mostly they are nice and good people doing a job. Instead of so much work to 
separate people from the Dome program the more recent interest is in getting 
people into the Domes to meditate doing program. 

 You were asking about the program, it is the same basic program you got before 
adjusted for particulars of scheduling to what has been the larger assembly of 
folks that was here after 2006. Apply online ahead of time through their web 
page and when you come to pick up your badge there will be a short orientation 
as to specifics now. It is quite flexible actually.

 Kind Regards from Fairfield, Iowa,
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Doug H wrote:
 

 "guidelines for Dome group meditation membership were not directly taken up or 
responded to at the Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. " 
 

 What are the current guidelines for Dome Group meditation membership?
 What promises are being referred to, above, "made promises" ?
 What practices are considered "competing systems to MVS" ? 

 Is there a timeframe for this? That is not practiced for x years?
 

 


 





  


 
 
  The yagaya program now is not set up to Maharishi's teachings.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  

Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2018-01-12 Thread rajawilliamsm...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The yagaya program now is not set up to Maharishi's teachings.  

Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2018-01-11 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
S, Actually you are the kind of person that is hoped for to have come back. 
Come regardless of what you may have heard of the past administrative state of 
culture here. The Domes are fabulous places to meditate even so. There is a 
great and deep spiritual practice community here. The administrative staff want 
to hear that if you join the group here you’ll practice in the Dome ™ and the 
™-Sidhis program as instructed. That is fair enough as far as their 
facilitating it. The assembly office staff has nothing to do with editing the 
guidelines or policy so there is no point contending with them otherwise about 
the state of the guidelines. 

 The guidelines have been some remediated down now from how restrictive they 
once were over people’s private lives, as they were written and cobbled before. 
Now they are down to three restricting areas: people who particularly have 
studied with and practice Art of Living practices, people who promote or may be 
too involved with other spiritual teachers, and people who promote the use of 
non-Maharishi yagya. The main interest other than in those particular 
paragraphs of the guidelines is that the intent is in facilitating the program 
for people practicing ™ and the ™ Sidhis program simply as instructed, 
uncorrupted by other practices. So it is.  

 With your being out of affiliation for so long, in applying they may wonder 
where you have been(?) And, of course, keeping even these remaining non-compete 
clauses keeps an ‘administrative’ staff busy adjudicating membership that way. 
Mostly they are nice and good people doing a job. Instead of so much work to 
separate people from the Dome program the more recent interest is in getting 
people into the Domes to meditate doing program. 

 You were asking about the program, it is the same basic program you got before 
adjusted for particulars of scheduling to what has been the larger assembly of 
folks that was here after 2006. Apply online ahead of time through their web 
page and when you come to pick up your badge there will be a short orientation 
as to specifics now. It is quite flexible actually.

 Kind Regards from Fairfield, Iowa,
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Doug H wrote:
 

 "guidelines for Dome group meditation membership were not directly taken up or 
responded to at the Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. " 
 

 What are the current guidelines for Dome Group meditation membership?
 What promises are being referred to, above, "made promises" ?
 What practices are considered "competing systems to MVS" ? 

 Is there a timeframe for this? That is not practiced for x years?
 

 


 





Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2018-01-11 Thread skymt...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]

 Doug H wrote:
 

 "guidelines for Dome group meditation membership were not directly taken up or 
responded to at the Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. " 
 

 What are the current guidelines for Dome Group meditation membership?
 What promises are being referred to, above, "made promises" ?
 What practices are considered "competing systems to MVS" ? 

 Is there a timeframe for this? That is not practiced for x years?
 

 


 



Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-22 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, body counting. 
 Someone’s separate e-mail accounts.. 
 In the meantime, the movement haS RUN OFF 30,000 PEOPLE FROM HERE I Have seen 
with my own eyes.  Hopefully Hagelin, the best guy we’ve Had yet, will pull 
this out of the fire.  He’s trying, and is sincere.
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 As you must be aware, the dead weight of ideology is measured in bodies.

 

 
 
 On Friday, August 18, 2017, 2:14:07 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:
 

 

   
 The critical need now is for numbers in proximity meditating.  This need in 
critical mass needs movement right now not the dead weight of rigid ideology 
standing still in the way. 

 Our status quo ‘administrative state’ of the Dome numbers evidently is not 
working for reasons unacceptable by standard of what good could come of the 
group meditating.   
In the middle of tru-believer status quo is their own moral feeling that 
anything that came from Maharishi should not be changed and also a feeling that 
some people ‘made promises’ and should be punished or coerced by holding up 
their Dome badge status over them. These are moral rationales that like the 
grant-monitoring problem are unacceptable to the accord of natural law.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A conservative view of the numbers problem is saying: “Materialism and 
ill-discipline on the part of some people in the meditating community is a 
likely part of this problem. By all the science one could infer the buck of all 
the problems is with all those spiritual loafers down in cafes sitting around 
when they could be in the collective of the Domes meditating.” 
  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 About the collapse of numbers in the Domes meditating, it would be extremely 
politic right now to cut through this.  Make a separate policy document for 
admission in to the Dome group program for old movement meditators and 
initiators. Not with crafting exemptions but directly cut the guidelines down 
to essential of what it takes to administer a residence course or retreat.   
See that people have learned ™ and the ™-sidhis, that they don’t ‘work against’ 
the movement or would be otherwise disruptive, and simply request that they 
only practice ™ and the ™-Sidhis in the Domes.  Done. Short. Publish them.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This needs extra-ordinary leadership right now to rally the meditating 
community to meditation.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the scientists to lead on this, to become leaders of movement. 
Dr. Hagelin and our other bona fide scientists with real degrees of study need 
to step up and lead on this holdup with the Dome numbers.  How it was done 
before which effectively destroyed the Dome meditation numbers was terrible and 
needs to be immediately remediated. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 

 Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the 
simple and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge 
fees for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  

 How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  

 

Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-17 Thread Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As you must be aware, the dead weight of ideology is measured in bodies.

On Friday, August 18, 2017, 2:14:07 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

    


The critical need now is for numbers in proximity meditating.  This need in 
critical mass needs movement right now not the dead weight of rigid ideology 
standing still in the way. 


Our status quo ‘administrative state’ of the Dome numbers evidently is not 
working for reasons unacceptable by standard of what good could come of the 
group meditating.   
In the middle of tru-believer status quo is their own moral feeling that 
anything that came from Maharishi should not be changed and also a feeling that 
some people ‘made promises’ and should be punished or coerced by holding up 
their Dome badge status over them. These are moral rationales that like the 
grant-monitoring problem are unacceptable to the accord of natural law.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


A conservative view of the numbers problem is saying: “Materialism and 
ill-discipline on the part of some people in the meditating community is a 
likely part of this problem. By all the science one could infer the buck of all 
the problems is with all those spiritual loafers down in cafes sitting around 
when they could be in the collective of the Domes meditating.” 

 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

About the collapse of numbers in the Domes meditating, it would be extremely 
politic right now to cut through this.  Make a separate policy document for 
admission in to the Dome group program for old movement meditators and 
initiators. Not with crafting exemptions but directly cut the guidelines down 
to essential of what it takes to administer a residence course or retreat.   
See that people have learned ™ and the ™-sidhis, that they don’t ‘work against’ 
the movement or would be otherwise disruptive, and simply request that they 
only practice ™ and the ™-Sidhis in the Domes.  Done. Short. Publish them.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This needs extra-ordinary leadership right now to rally the meditating 
community to meditation.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It is time for the scientists to lead on this, to become leaders of movement. 
Dr. Hagelin and our other bona fide scientists with real degrees of study need 
to step up and lead on this holdup with the Dome numbers.  How it was done 
before which effectively destroyed the Dome meditation numbers was terrible and 
needs to be immediately remediated. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 


Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the simple 
and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge fees 
for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  


How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  


Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Rolling out the Dome fees.. 

Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-17 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The critical need now is for numbers in proximity meditating.  This need in 
critical mass needs movement right now not the dead weight of rigid ideology 
standing still in the way. 

 Our status quo ‘administrative state’ of the Dome numbers evidently is not 
working for reasons unacceptable by standard of what good could come of the 
group meditating.   
In the middle of tru-believer status quo is their own moral feeling that 
anything that came from Maharishi should not be changed and also a feeling that 
some people ‘made promises’ and should be punished or coerced by holding up 
their Dome badge status over them. These are moral rationales that like the 
grant-monitoring problem are unacceptable to the accord of natural law.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A conservative view of the numbers problem is saying: “Materialism and 
ill-discipline on the part of some people in the meditating community is a 
likely part of this problem. By all the science one could infer the buck of all 
the problems is with all those spiritual loafers down in cafes sitting around 
when they could be in the collective of the Domes meditating.” 
  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 About the collapse of numbers in the Domes meditating, it would be extremely 
politic right now to cut through this.  Make a separate policy document for 
admission in to the Dome group program for old movement meditators and 
initiators. Not with crafting exemptions but directly cut the guidelines down 
to essential of what it takes to administer a residence course or retreat.   
See that people have learned ™ and the ™-sidhis, that they don’t ‘work against’ 
the movement or would be otherwise disruptive, and simply request that they 
only practice ™ and the ™-Sidhis in the Domes.  Done. Short. Publish them.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This needs extra-ordinary leadership right now to rally the meditating 
community to meditation.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the scientists to lead on this, to become leaders of movement. 
Dr. Hagelin and our other bona fide scientists with real degrees of study need 
to step up and lead on this holdup with the Dome numbers.  How it was done 
before which effectively destroyed the Dome meditation numbers was terrible and 
needs to be immediately remediated. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 

 Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the 
simple and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge 
fees for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  

 How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  

 Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Rolling out the Dome fees..  

 Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-16 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A conservative view of the numbers problem is saying: “Materialism and 
ill-discipline on the part of some people in the meditating community is a 
likely part of this problem. By all the science one could infer the buck of all 
the problems is with all those spiritual loafers down in cafes sitting around 
when they could be in the collective of the Domes meditating.” 
  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 About the collapse of numbers in the Domes meditating, it would be extremely 
politic right now to cut through this.  Make a separate policy document for 
admission in to the Dome group program for old movement meditators and 
initiators. Not with crafting exemptions but directly cut the guidelines down 
to essential of what it takes to administer a residence course or retreat.   
See that people have learned ™ and the ™-sidhis, that they don’t ‘work against’ 
the movement or would be otherwise disruptive, and simply request that they 
only practice ™ and the ™-Sidhis in the Domes.  Done. Short. Publish them.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This needs extra-ordinary leadership right now to rally the meditating 
community to meditation.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the scientists to lead on this, to become leaders of movement. 
Dr. Hagelin and our other bona fide scientists with real degrees of study need 
to step up and lead on this holdup with the Dome numbers.  How it was done 
before which effectively destroyed the Dome meditation numbers was terrible and 
needs to be immediately remediated. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 

 Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the 
simple and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge 
fees for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  

 How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  

 Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Rolling out the Dome fees..  

 Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to 
increase the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  
Right now quite evidently this needs to happen.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. 
 

 This needs some extra-ordinary leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-16 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
About the collapse of numbers in the Domes meditating, it would be extremely 
politic right now to cut through this.  Make a separate policy document for 
admission in to the Dome group program for old movement meditators and 
initiators. Not with crafting exemptions but directly cut the guidelines down 
to essential of what it takes to administer a residence course or retreat.   
See that people have learned ™ and the ™-sidhis, that they don’t ‘work against’ 
the movement or would be otherwise disruptive, and simply request that they 
only practice ™ and the ™-Sidhis in the Domes.  Done. Short. Publish them.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This needs extra-ordinary leadership right now to rally the meditating 
community to meditation.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the scientists to lead on this, to become leaders of movement. 
Dr. Hagelin and our other bona fide scientists with real degrees of study need 
to step up and lead on this holdup with the Dome numbers.  How it was done 
before which effectively destroyed the Dome meditation numbers was terrible and 
needs to be immediately remediated. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 

 Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the 
simple and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge 
fees for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  

 How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  

 Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Rolling out the Dome fees..  

 Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to 
increase the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  
Right now quite evidently this needs to happen.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. 
 

 This needs some extra-ordinary leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-15 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This needs extra-ordinary leadership right now to rally the meditating 
community to meditation.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the scientists to lead on this, to become leaders of movement. 
Dr. Hagelin and our other bona fide scientists with real degrees of study need 
to step up and lead on this holdup with the Dome numbers.  How it was done 
before which effectively destroyed the Dome meditation numbers was terrible and 
needs to be immediately remediated. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 

 Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the 
simple and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge 
fees for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  

 How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  

 Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Rolling out the Dome fees..  

 Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to 
increase the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  
Right now quite evidently this needs to happen.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. 
 

 This needs some extra-ordinary leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 
and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is 
science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of 
meditation program practice and lead past them.  Everything is at stake here 
right now. 

 Jai Guru Dev, 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-14 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is time for the scientists to lead on this, to become leaders of movement. 
Dr. Hagelin and our other bona fide scientists with real degrees of study need 
to step up and lead on this holdup with the Dome numbers.  How it was done 
before which effectively destroyed the Dome meditation numbers was terrible and 
needs to be immediately remediated. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 

 Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the 
simple and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge 
fees for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  

 How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  

 Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Rolling out the Dome fees..  

 Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to 
increase the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  
Right now quite evidently this needs to happen.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. 
 

 This needs some extra-ordinary leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 
and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is 
science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of 
meditation program practice and lead past them.  Everything is at stake here 
right now. 

 Jai Guru Dev, 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline 

Re: RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-14 Thread Archer Angel archonan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The real problem is direct experience is not a belief. 
A belief is an interpretation of experience, it is not the experience itself. 
Spiritual awakening in not about belief in what reality is, but a more direct 
apprehension of reality, outside the confines of the mind's discourse. 
The problem arises when experience must be expressed verbally. This creates a 
secondary reality in the mind and when the mind is ignorant, it takes that 
description as real.

When this happens enough times, you have the situation found in most spiritual 
movements where activity is performed entirely on the basis of verbal 
interpretations, and as most persons in spiritual movements tend to be seekers, 
not yet having found what they are looking for, most actions in the 
organizations are fractured along the lines of that ignorance.
You have to tread carefully among such people. If the built up inertia is just 
too heavy, it might be best to take your practice elsewhere and bypass them 
rather than try to "fix" the situation.
If you really want enlightenment (which is highest first), seek that first and 
foremost with diligence. Remember you have to discover what it really is, what 
other people say to you cannot replace your good judgement. If you do not 
develop good judgement and self reliance, you will be at their mercy, and they 
usually have none. 
If your world of experience is not peaceful first, you are relying on a false 
promise of peace. Being with like-minded seekers is helpful at times, but not 
necessary. Guru Dev spent most of his time away from others. That came out 
rather well for him.
The enlightened are not true believers. They are done with that. If the ship 
that is guiding you is not working out, maybe you are just stuck with a bunch 
of blind believers. Abandon ship. No need to worry, the ocean is all around for 
all to experience, there is no lack, nothing is hidden.



On Sunday, August 13, 2017, 10:26:06 AM GMT, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]  wrote:

    


It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 


Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the simple 
and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge fees 
for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  


How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  


Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Rolling out the Dome fees.. 

Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to increase 
the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  Right now 
quite evidently this needs to happen.  


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-13 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is time to cut through the Gordian knot of tru-believer conservatism. 

 Contact Dr. Hagelin right now, share your concern that he work with the other 
scientists who are of the few Trustees who ‘own’ the movement to get to work 
directly on remediating so much of the damage that was previously done to our 
communal ship of state here in the years of the Patterson-Morris 
administration.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the 
simple and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge 
fees for the Dome meditation as a reaction.  

 How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  

 Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Rolling out the Dome fees..  

 Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to 
increase the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  
Right now quite evidently this needs to happen.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. 
 

 This needs some extra-ordinary leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 
and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is 
science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of 
meditation program practice and lead past them.  Everything is at stake here 
right now. 

 Jai Guru Dev, 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-12 Thread srijau
you are not acting with a minimum level of communication skill here, you are 
just telling people, you are bad and wrong you should shut up and do what I 
think is right.

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-12 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is time for the tru-believer faith-based religious of TM to relent.  They 
need to stand back,  hold back and ‘recuse’ themselves from the consideration 
now. They clearly cannot judge this.   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Bound by a conservative TM faith ideology evidently our conservative 
tru-believers don’t even believe the implications of the science or else in the 
policy conversations they would get out of the way of more membership and more 
meditation in the Domes.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the 
simple and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge for 
the Dome meditation as a reaction.  

 How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  

 Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Rolling out the Dome fees..  

 Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to 
increase the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  
Right now quite evidently this needs to happen.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. This needs some extra-ordinary 
leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 
and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is 
science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of 
meditation program practice and lead past them.  Everything is at stake here 
right now. 

 Jai Guru Dev, 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-11 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is time to start a new document guideline for membership. Keep to the simple 
and get rid of the old guidelines of what was the Patterson-Morris 
administrative state of ™.   Monitoring people’s lives the way they did it 
quite obviously was against natural law. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge for 
the Dome meditation as a reaction.  

 How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and that having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  

 Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Rolling out the Dome fees..  

 Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to 
increase the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  
Right now quite evidently this needs to happen.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. This needs some extra-ordinary 
leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 
and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is 
science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of 
meditation program practice and lead past them.  Everything is at stake here 
right now. 

 Jai Guru Dev, 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-11 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In this recent crisis of Dome numbers Bevan’s early solution was to charge for 
the Dome meditation as a reaction.  

 How about first remediating the guidelines, re-articulating what we are about 
with the Domes and a campaign to increase numbers of people doing program in 
the Dome before you guys re-introduce fees and the having to come to get 
stickers, with all that visits to the course office entails of ‘validating’ 
badges.  

 Do some of this other work first to increase numbers of meditators coming to 
the Dome and then deal with a fee later. 
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Rolling out the Dome fees..  

 Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to 
increase the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  
Right now quite evidently this needs to happen.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. This needs some extra-ordinary 
leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 
and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is 
science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of 
meditation program practice and lead past them.  Everything is at stake here 
right now. 

 Jai Guru Dev, 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.
 Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-11 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Rolling out the Dome fees..  

 Inevitably there will be some drop off when a meditation fee gets 
re-instituted.  Do due- diligence before you roll out Dome fees.  Very little 
leadership had been done under the Patterson-Morris administration with 
interfacing in the larger meditating community to present the why and the what 
we are doing with the Domes.  Do your leadership work first before you taint 
everything in the discussion with fees now. 
 


 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to 
increase the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  
Right now quite evidently this needs to happen.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. This needs some extra-ordinary 
leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 
and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is 
science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of 
meditation program practice and lead past them.  Everything is at stake here 
right now. 

 Jai Guru Dev, 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.
 Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything 
to do with how people practice meditation. 
 That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be 
omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That 
would be an important telegraph. 
 There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go 
forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.'  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 



















RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-11 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A better administration of the group meditation is needed right now to increase 
the membership of people meditating doing the program in the Domes.  Right now 
quite evidently this needs to happen.  
 

 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. This needs some extra-ordinary 
leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 
and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is 
science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of 
meditation program practice and lead past them.  Everything is at stake here 
right now. 

 Jai Guru Dev, 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.
 Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything 
to do with how people practice meditation. 
 That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be 
omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That 
would be an important telegraph. 
 There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go 
forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.'  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the 
Phoenix Rising meeting?
  
 Rick Archer
 Buddha at the Gas Pump
 https://batgap.com https://batgap.com
 r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com
 




















RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-11 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This was a terrible state of administrative matters that let things get so bad 
with the numbers meditating there in the Domes and with the meditating 
community here. Emergency action needs to happen to make this meditation about 
expansion, to pull this out of nose dive. This needs some extra-ordinary 
leadership right now out in front. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 
and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is 
science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of 
meditation program practice and lead past them.  Everything is at stake here 
right now. 

 Jai Guru Dev, 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.
 Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything 
to do with how people practice meditation. 
 That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be 
omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That 
would be an important telegraph. 
 There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go 
forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.'  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the 
Phoenix Rising meeting?
  
 Rick Archer
 Buddha at the Gas Pump
 https://batgap.com https://batgap.com
 r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com
 Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156
  

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome


  
  
 July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome 
admission/membership.   Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 
evening. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 E-mail responding to
  
 “Willing people not allowed in the Dome”..
  
 You know one of the very 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-09 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Dr. Hagelin is one of the few people who in legality actually ‘owns’ ™ by 
virtue of being one of a very few Trustees at the top of the corporations that 
are ™ now  
 This becomes critical for critical mass here.  Ask him now to use every ounce 
of fiduciary responsibility and trust that he has to right this right now by 
joining a coalition of the other real trustee- scientists who are at the top 
and dictate a proper policy according to the evidence base of all that is 
science. It is time to push the faith-based ashram-ites out of the way of 
meditation program practice and lead past them.  Everything is at stake here 
right now. 

 Jai Guru Dev, 
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.
 Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything 
to do with how people practice meditation. 
 That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be 
omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That 
would be an important telegraph. 
 There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go 
forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.'  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the 
Phoenix Rising meeting?
  
 Rick Archer
 Buddha at the Gas Pump
 https://batgap.com https://batgap.com
 r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com
 Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156
  

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome


  
  
 July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome 
admission/membership.   Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 
evening. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 E-mail responding to
  
 “Willing people not allowed in the Dome”..
  
 You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, 
they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, 
for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in 
hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with 
things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I 
won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-09 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Only 180 in the Dome meditating the other morning. 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.
 Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything 
to do with how people practice meditation. 
 That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be 
omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That 
would be an important telegraph. 
 There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go 
forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.'  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the 
Phoenix Rising meeting?
  
 Rick Archer
 Buddha at the Gas Pump
 https://batgap.com https://batgap.com
 r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com
 Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156
  

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome


  
  
 July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome 
admission/membership.   Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 
evening. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 E-mail responding to
  
 “Willing people not allowed in the Dome”..
  
 You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, 
they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, 
for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in 
hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with 
things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I 
won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' Then what can I do? 
 People have to be strong enough to lead the leaders.  
  
 Contact John Hagelin directly.
  
 At:
 Global Union of Scientists for Peace
 2000 Capital Boulevard
 Fairfield, IA 52556
 secretar...@gusp.org mailto:secretar...@gusp.org
 +1-888-600-GUSP 
 
 
 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 Those guidelines of the ‘administrative state’ up there on campus and those 
Rajas who defend them have turned too many capable meditators out from the 
Domes. In the span of a few days after the communal meeting at Phoenix Rising I 
spoke separately with two long long time TM movement meditators who were 

Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-01 Thread Sal Sunshine salsunshineini...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Between people dying and others getting kicked out, the SOBs who run the place 
are getting exactly what they deserve.  Not to mention the hundreds more who 
have observed all that and summarily lost interest.

Sal 

On Aug 1, 2017, at 7:41 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 wrote:



189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating.
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is a 
made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
 
The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Surveying:

"In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
People were made to feel bad."  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  

In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.

Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything 
to do with how people practice meditation. 

That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be omitted. 
Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That would be an 
important telegraph. 

There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go 
forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.'  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the 
Phoenix Rising meeting?

 

Rick Archer

Buddha at the Gas Pump

https://batgap.com

r...@batgap.com

Podcast

 

 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome

 

 

July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome 
admission/membership.  
Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 evening.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

E-mail responding to
 
“Willing people not allowed in the Dome”..
 
You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, 
they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, 
for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in 
hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with 
things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I 
won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' Then what can I do?
People have to be strong enough to lead the leaders.  
 
Contact John Hagelin directly.
 
At:
Global Union of Scientists for Peace
2000 Capital Boulevard
Fairfield, IA 52556
secretar...@gusp.org
+1-888-600-GUSP





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Those guidelines of the ‘administrative state’ up there on campus and those 
Rajas who defend them have turned too many capable meditators out from the 
Domes. In the span of a few days after the communal meeting at Phoenix Rising I 
spoke separately with two long long time TM movement meditators who were 
administratively excluded from the Dome meditation for practicing jyotish 
astrology. Both exclaimed they would be there meditating if the 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-08-01 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
189 yesterday morning and 208 the evening before in the men's Dome meditating. 
Women's Dome usually is less than the Men's tally. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is 
a made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.
 Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything 
to do with how people practice meditation. 
 That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be 
omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That 
would be an important telegraph. 
 There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go 
forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.'  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the 
Phoenix Rising meeting?
  
 Rick Archer
 Buddha at the Gas Pump
 https://batgap.com https://batgap.com
 r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com
 Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156
  

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome


  
  
 July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome 
admission/membership.   Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 
evening. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 E-mail responding to
  
 “Willing people not allowed in the Dome”..
  
 You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, 
they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, 
for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in 
hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with 
things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I 
won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' Then what can I do? 
 People have to be strong enough to lead the leaders.  
  
 Contact John Hagelin directly.
  
 At:
 Global Union of Scientists for Peace
 2000 Capital Boulevard
 Fairfield, IA 52556
 secretar...@gusp.org mailto:secretar...@gusp.org
 +1-888-600-GUSP 
 
 
 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 Those guidelines of the ‘administrative state’ up there on campus and those 
Rajas who defend them have turned too many capable meditators out from the 
Domes. In the span of a few days after the communal meeting at Phoenix Rising I 
spoke separately with two long long time TM movement meditators who were 
administratively excluded from the Dome meditation for practicing jyotish 
astrology. Both exclaimed they would be there meditating if 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-07-31 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The divide asserting “They made promises” to keep people out of the Domes ‘is a 
made up maya’ about fealty in some conservative TB'er’s minds. 
  
 The TM tru-believers assert their discipline over others that: “They made 
promises..”  and want a punitive retributive discipline over old meditators 
using membership at the Dome meditation. 
 A common response In the old meditating movement community.. 
 “..The only promise I made was to go teach people to meditate as I learned to 
teach meditation from Maharishi and to not let money get in the way of anyone 
learning to meditate.”
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.
 Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything 
to do with how people practice meditation. 
 That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be 
omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That 
would be an important telegraph. 
 There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go 
forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.'  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the 
Phoenix Rising meeting?
  
 Rick Archer
 Buddha at the Gas Pump
 https://batgap.com https://batgap.com
 r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com
 Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156
  

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome


  
  
 July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome 
admission/membership.   Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 
evening. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 E-mail responding to
  
 “Willing people not allowed in the Dome”..
  
 You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, 
they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, 
for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in 
hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with 
things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I 
won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' Then what can I do? 
 People have to be strong enough to lead the leaders.  
  
 Contact John Hagelin directly.
  
 At:
 Global Union of Scientists for Peace
 2000 Capital Boulevard
 Fairfield, IA 52556
 secretar...@gusp.org mailto:secretar...@gusp.org
 +1-888-600-GUSP 
 
 
 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 Those guidelines of the ‘administrative state’ up there on campus and those 
Rajas who defend them have turned too many capable meditators out from the 
Domes. In the span of a few days after the communal meeting at Phoenix Rising I 
spoke separately with two long long time TM movement meditators who were 
administratively excluded from the Dome meditation for practicing jyotish 
astrology. Both exclaimed they would be there meditating if the guidelines were 
changed to omit the ‘non-compete clauses’ about people who practice jyotish, 
those guidelines that have nothing to do with their practice of ™.  A couple 
weeks ago there was a former 

RE: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome

2017-07-30 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Surveying: 

 "In the dome they got discouraged. The cohesion was destroyed by endless bar 
raising to the dome.  
 People were made to feel bad."  
 


 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 People spoke to different aspects in the meditating community meeting at 
Phoenix Rising. Some people in the line at the open microphone spoke to the 
collapse of the Dome numbers in their experience saying things of regret that 
2,000 meditating together is way more than 200 to the effect.  Those particular 
policy problems related to the Dome numbers around the guidelines for Dome 
group meditation membership were not directly taken up or responded to at the 
Phoenix Rising meeting.  
 In the preliminary meetings leading up to the Phoenix Rising meeting it was 
summarily expressed that the leadership feels for the status quo, that people 
‘made promises’ and therefore should not be in the Domes for practicing other 
competing systems to MVS, and then it was qualified a little in the process of 
meeting to be more particularly around those who ‘work against’ the movement. 
Work in process.
 Also it seems there is a cultural disavowing inside that the ‘guidelines’ for 
being in the group meditation are neither punitive or disciplinary.  This needs 
a lot more conversation between factions. Leadership have not acknowledged that 
those being either studied and practiced in any astrology systems has anything 
to do with how people practice meditation. 
 That whole non-compete clause in the guidelines could stand to just be 
omitted. Invite those few who it effects freely back in to membership. That 
would be an important telegraph. 
 There is another preliminary working meeting tomorrow coming up on how to go 
forward with a communal process. 'Work in progress.'  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Were these examples (e.g., people doing their own jyotish) brought up in the 
Phoenix Rising meeting?
  
 Rick Archer
 Buddha at the Gas Pump
 https://batgap.com https://batgap.com
 r...@batgap.com mailto:r...@batgap.com
 Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/buddha-at-the-gas-pump/id602578156
  

  
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:47 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome


  
  
 July 2017, no change in the ‘non-compete’ policies for Dome 
admission/membership.   Men’s Dome number was 193 a recent morning and 196 
evening. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 E-mail responding to
  
 “Willing people not allowed in the Dome”..
  
 You know one of the very biggest issues now? That when someone is mistreated, 
they will not put it in an email. The admins and leadership needs emails now, 
for good reason. Otherwise it won't be believed, they have to have something in 
hand. It is not just fear of losing badge, it takes strength to deal with 
things like this, to write that email. I have been told dozens of times, 'No I 
won't send an email, I'm just going to let it go.' Then what can I do? 
 People have to be strong enough to lead the leaders.  
  
 Contact John Hagelin directly.
  
 At:
 Global Union of Scientists for Peace
 2000 Capital Boulevard
 Fairfield, IA 52556
 secretar...@gusp.org mailto:secretar...@gusp.org
 +1-888-600-GUSP 
 
 
 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 Those guidelines of the ‘administrative state’ up there on campus and those 
Rajas who defend them have turned too many capable meditators out from the 
Domes. In the span of a few days after the communal meeting at Phoenix Rising I 
spoke separately with two long long time TM movement meditators who were 
administratively excluded from the Dome meditation for practicing jyotish 
astrology. Both exclaimed they would be there meditating if the guidelines were 
changed to omit the ‘non-compete clauses’ about people who practice jyotish, 
those guidelines that have nothing to do with their practice of ™.  A couple 
weeks ago there was a former MIU student back visiting who applying for a Dome 
badge the course office did an internet search about the person’s life, judged 
and told this person they would never be allowed in the Dome. Never? We need 
membership here and these people go out into the world and tell others what, 
about being excluded? 
  
  
 The narrative needs to change now. It is not enough to claim that things have 
changed when they have not. 
 
 
 

 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 wrote :
 Maharishi once said that there will come a time when I’ll tell you to meditate 
on your own, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield’s Cr isis of Meditating Numbers in the Dome:

2017-06-14 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
“Where two or more are gathered..”   By experience and now by what modern 
science does show, a having of numbers meditating and their proximity does 
matter both for the individual meditating and collectively.  Quite evidently 
this particular group was ‘colored’ in its way by the ‘administrative state’ of 
it. That becomes part of the narrative around this.
  
 The transformational capacity of the Dome group meditation (Meissner-like 
Effect) was palpable in the days of 1000 and 2000 meditating together.  Now 
even with just 200 or so in each Dome gathered to meditate the Dome meditation 
remains a powerful place to meditate.  There yet is a lot of consciousness in 
the Domes in the meditators sitting up there meditating.  It quite evidently 
still functions as a special place that way.  
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That could be a solution, but as the number of "Sidhas" practicing in the 
Domes exceed the number required for coherence in Fairfield, why did that not 
provide the basis for continued success in Fairfield? 
 

 If we take Kaplan's letter over a decade ago at face value, it would seem 
Maharishi did not even really know if this coherence effect would really work, 
as it seemed to be based on a rather loose association of a statement by 
Patanjali with a coherence effect in physics.
 

 The maximum numbers were in the 1980s and everything has declined, including 
the state of the world from that point on, whereas if the theory were true, it 
should have improved, especially in Fairfield, more people would have come into 
the program and the world would have gotten better.
 

 In spite of the movement's confirmation-bias tainted research, Fairfield, the 
star of the movement, seems to indicate the Maharishi effect does not exist in 
the form and extent that it is touted to be.
 

 The point of meditation is it is an aid to enlightenment. Everything else that 
has been bundled with it in the movement has been an effort to make it 
attractive to people who probably would not otherwise meditate for the real 
reason.
 

 It is an appeal to personal success and well-being, which is fine for 
ego-centric individuals, but enlightenment is to discover that everything is 
consciousness, and consciousness when unbounded is not personal.
 

 Meditating for "World Peace" sounds great, and maybe that idea will make you 
feel good as an individual, but World Peace has not happened, and seems less 
likely now than previously.
 

 Perhaps the Bhagavad-Gita is correct, that life is an unending battleground 
and that you need to achieve peace on the basis of your practice, but the 
battle continues unending, without letup, and you gain peace even amid 
ceaseless turmoil.
 


 From: "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:32 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield’s Crisis of Meditating Numbers in the 
Dome:
 
 
   

 The ending of the “grant” program funding.
  
 Old meditators cut loose as
 the ™ movement readies to
 outsource US Meditation to India.
  
 The international ™ movement is announcing it will shift its funding resources 
away from propping the Dome group meditation in Iowa over to pundit programs in 
India. 
  
 Winding down the “Grant” program..
  
 Financial support for the Invincible America Assembly had been coming in 
substantial amounts donated monthly by Drs. Howard and Mickey Settle. About two 
years ago, the International ™ Movement took over most, then all, of the IAA 
Grant funding, and has now announced it will step down its contributions 
beginning in September, to 22% of the $90,000/month it has been giving, by this 
coming November. 
 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

  
 The movement should get out of the business of monitoring people.

 

 FW:  
 Myth: People dropped off or were cut from the Grant because there was not 
enough funds, due to Howard Settle's business situation. 
  
 Truth: Not one person was dropped from the Grant due to reduction in Settle 
funds in 2013. Every single person who re-applied went back on the Grant. Julie 
Anne, who handled the Grant checks, told me this herself. But the 100 person 
drop overnight, and 350 or more after that reduction, was primarilybecause of 
dislike or disapproval of the 'monitoring' system, and, the way that Bryan Lee 
et al conducted the lengthy highly formal meeting to introduce the 'monitoring' 
system (I had warned him what 'monitoring' would do, and also what that type of 
meeting would do, but was disregarded). It crippled Movement family and 
community feeling, what was left of that. 
  
 The reduction in attendance began ONE YEAR BEFORE the Settle funds were 
reduced. In August of 2012. Soon as 'monitoring' started, after 17 nearly 
consecutive higher months, our attendance fell through the floor, and went down 
12 consecutive