[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > It's not *about* the CIA. It's about eltitists' innate > > need to feel important. The TM organization panders to > > elitism.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Vaj
On Dec 26, 2005, at 1:31 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the  world.  But I suppose even a great saint can be delusional and  irrationally paranoid which is what MMY very well may be if he  thinks the TMO has been spied upon and infiltrated by t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Peter
--- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "matrixmonitor" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi was a target of t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Right after I got back from TTC in '74, a few > initiators at my > center started getting involved with -- for lack of > a better word -- > a faith-healer in Nebraska whom they would send > money to and she > would work on your aura or some such t

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the > world. But I suppose even a great saint can be delusional and > irrationally paranoid which is what MMY very well may be if he > thinks the TMO

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Peter
--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great > teaching to the > > world. But I suppose even a great saint can be > delusional and > > irrationally parano

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great > > teaching to the >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 8:49 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the >> world. But I suppose even a great saint can be delusional and >> irrationally

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Vaj
On Dec 26, 2005, at 11:32 AM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/26/05 8:49 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to theworld.  But I suppose even a great saint can

[FairfieldLife] Re: Movement sells building for 112 Million

2005-12-26 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Spring time for Bevan"? :) So the TMO actually guarantees the > failures of its own projects? Well, at least we know they're good at > something. > > Sal > Very funny, Sal ;-) > On Dec 25, 2005, at 11:52 AM

[FairfieldLife] Mother Divine to move soon

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Mother Divine to move soon From a friend:  Just got a  fundraising email from someone on THMD.  They have to be out by  mid-January, they are thinking the 20th, and they have no clue where  they will be going.  Just pack and be ready.  OK to post this. To subscribe, send a messag

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Peter
--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "shempmcgurk" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Y

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test on 12/26/05 10:44 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the CIA get involved if an international organization is handling money illegally? If so, that might explain their interest. Perhaps a Freedom of Information Act application would

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The notion that the TMO was spied upon and > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 11:28 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I think there must have been something to hang his >> delusional hat on. I hope it wasn't pure paranoid >> fantasy! > > You know, back in the early '70s, all us leftist young > folks were constantly suspecting the CIA of tapping our

[FairfieldLife] Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread Vaj
"Ethics won't get you Enlightened. But without Ethics you will not get Enlightened." Want to know why?The happy dream of Samsara: feeling good by doing good. The Nightmare: hurting ourselves by hurting others. It's our choiceEthics & Enlightenment. Part 1. Compassion in a Box ( 09:22 )Ethics

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment on 12/26/05 11:41 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Ethics won't get you Enlightened. But without Ethics you will not get Enlightened." Want to know why? The happy dream of Samsara: feeling good by doing good. The Nightm

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > It's not *about* the CIA. It's about e

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Right after I got back from TTC in '74, a few > > initiators at my > > center started getting involved with -- for lack of > > a better word -- > > a faith-healer

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 11:28 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> I think there must have been something to hang his > >> delusional hat on. I hope it wasn't pure paranoid > >> fantasy! > > > > You know, back in t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 12:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Mr friend from Canada (MIU graduate) was in Guyana at the time of > Jonestown (he was teaching TM) and, ironically, the government there > thought he and the other TM teachers were CIA! Shortly AFTER Jonestown, Maharishi sent David

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I have no problem with you or anyone else believing > > that. Me, I don't personally believe > > ...on a totally different topic:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 12:52 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: > >>> I have no problem with you or anyone else believing >>> that.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Right after I got back from TTC in '74, a few > > > initiators a

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test ~ story of Maharishi Vishwamitra

2005-12-26 Thread amarnath
This is a story about a great sage Vishwamitra from the ancient Vedas ~ it was gathered together from several separate articles in Amma's monthly Matruvani and "Awaken Children !" Vishwamitra's spiritual path is a beautiful learning example ~ he starts as a powerful king with ego ~ he meets the

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "matrixmonitor" > > > <[EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Meditation and yoga in school

2005-12-26 Thread Vaj
Check out the video today at www.cnn.com on a school which is using meditation and yoga as part of the curriculum and ethos of the scool. Instead of getting smaller, it is growing. Each slot currently has two people applying for it, and this in a lower income, Hispanic neighborhood. The sch

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 8:49 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teachi

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 11:41 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > "Ethics won't get you Enlightened. But without Ethics you will not get > > Enlightened." Want to know why? > > > > The happy dream of Samsara: feeling goo

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > on 12/26/05 11:28 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >> I think there must have been something to hang his > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > I have no problem with you or anyone

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 12:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Mr friend from Canada (MIU graduate) was in Guyana at the time of > > Jonestown (he was teaching TM) and, ironically, the government there > > tho

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditation and yoga in school

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Check out the video today at www.cnn.com on a school which is using > meditation and yoga as part of the curriculum and ethos of the scool. > Instead of getting smaller, it is growing. Each slot currently has > two peop

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread lupidus108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- a

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lupidus108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > on 12/26/05 11:41 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > "Ethics won't get you Enlightened. But without Ethics you will > n

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...on a totally different topic: Note your grammar above. You > wrote: "Me, I don't personally...". I've seen you do that before, > Tantra, and I suspect that this has crept into your lexicon from > living in F

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 1:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > Not generally. Are you talking about the attempts to avoid paying > taxes. Par for the course in some parts of the world. The CIA > wouldn't bother with that kind of thing since literally EVERYONE does > it. Smuggling of cash across in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 2:22 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > OTOH,it seems implausible that Bush could have missed 9/11 even > though Israeli students (intelligence officers?) knew about it far > enough in advance to be filming it as it happened. They did? Have you seen those films? Are they onli

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 12/26/05 1:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > > > Not generally. Are you talking about the attempts to avoid paying > > taxes. Par for the course in some parts of the world. The CIA > > wouldn't bother

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 2:49 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 12/26/05 1:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >>> >>> Not generally. Are you talking about the attempts to avoid paying >>> taxes. Par for th

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 2:22 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > OTOH,it seems implausible that Bush could have missed 9/11 even > > though Israeli students (intelligence officers?) knew about it far > > enough in ad

[FairfieldLife] ORGANIC MUNG BEANS AVAILABLE FOR ORDER

2005-12-26 Thread Ron F
NOTE: THE REPLY TO THIS EMAIL IS NOT THE CORRECT EMAIL ADDRESS FOR INFORMATION. INQUIRES SHOULD BE TO : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Friends, Mung Dahl Once again, it is time to reorder the fabulous organic split mung bean dahl. It comes in 25 lb bags and is 3.75 per pound plus shipping. I will take o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Ethics won't get you Enlightened. But without Ethics you will not > get Enlightened." Want to know why? > > > The happy dream of Samsara: feeling good by doing good. The > Nightmare: hurting ourselves by hurting others.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 4:14 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> "Ethics won't get you Enlightened. But without Ethics you will not >> get Enlightened." Want to know why? >> >> >> The happy dream of Samsara: feeling good

[FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-26 Thread Dave
TM is not a religion? PUH-lease! TM claims it is not a religion, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. TM is nothing more then westernized, fundamentalist Hindusim. Nothing wrong with that, but TM's denials only go so far. How else does one explain Rajas, yagnas, God

[FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-26 Thread Dave
TM is not a religion? PUH-lease! TM claims it is not a religion, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. TM is nothing more then westernized, fundamentalist Hindusim. Nothing wrong with that, but TM's denials only go so far. How else does one explain Rajas, yagnas, God

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread Vaj
On Dec 26, 2005, at 5:14 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:I can well imagine the possibility that an enlightened person could then go on to act unethically, since the flavor of the dualistic dream state becomes a whole lot less relevant (or, even completely irrelevant?) In Ken's parlance, 'acting unethical

[FairfieldLife] Ramayana not a human creation

2005-12-26 Thread bbrigante
http://www.globalgoodnews.com/education-news-a.html?art=113545425760382 "'The Ramayana is not a human creation,' Dr. Morris said. 'It is the fundamental vibration of that transcendental field that is in us at all times and experienced by Valmiki and other great sages.' He explained that stress,

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, MMY is a great saint who has brought a great teaching to the > > world. But I suppose even a great saint can be delusi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 6:55 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > *** > > Prez Carter (he of the faith-healing sister who was himself an > evangelical Christian: http://www.alternet.org/story/18378/ ) was > clearly an enemy of the TMO, so it's not much of a stretch to > understand that he pr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread Vaj
On Dec 26, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote:Thanks. One of my favorite topics. I downloaded them.Uploaded the third of Ken'sEthics & Enlightenment. Part 3. The Erotic Stock Market of the Kosmos To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Vaj
On Dec 26, 2005, at 3:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/26/05 2:49 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 12/26/05 1:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> Not generally. Are you talking about the attempts to

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 6:55 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > *** > > > > Prez Carter (he of the faith-healing sister who was himself an > > evangelical Christian: http://www.alternet.org/story/18378/ )

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yes, MMY is a great saint who has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 26, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > Thanks. One of my favorite topics. I downloaded them. > > Uploaded the third of Ken's > > Ethics & Enlightenment. Part 3. The Erotic Stock Market of the Kosmos > Is

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 1:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > > > Not generally. Are you talking about the attempts to avoid paying > > taxes. Par for the course in some parts of the world. The CIA > > wouldn't bothe

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 2:49 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> on 12/26/05 1:54 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > >>>

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 2:22 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > OTOH,it seems implausible that Bush could have missed 9/11 even > > though Israeli students (intelligence officers?) knew about it far > > enough in ad

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 4:14 PM, Alex Stanley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> "Ethics won't get you Enlightened. But without Ethics you will not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TM is not a religion? PUH-lease! > > TM claims it is not a religion, but if it walks like a duck and > quacks like a duck, it's a duck. > > TM is nothing more then westernized, fundamentalist Hindusim. > Nothing wrong w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ethics is a requirement for Enlightenment

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 26, 2005, at 5:14 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > > > I can well imagine the possibility that an enlightened person could > > then go on to act unethically, since the flavor of the dualistic dream > > state becomes a wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 26, 2005, at 3:55 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > on 12/26/05 2:49 PM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> on 12/26/05

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 7:35 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Prez Carter (he of the faith-healing sister who was himself an >> evangelical Christian: http://www.alternet.org/story/18378/ ) was >> clearly an enemy of the TMO, so it's not much of a stretch to >> understand that he probably ordere

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 8:52 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > > Par for the course during that time. Why do you think it was so easy > to pay off the Spanish officials? It was the common thing to do. Probably still is. Even worse in India. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 9:05 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >It's > perfectly plausible that some bored ultra-rich, extremely famous, > extremely eccentric, black singer might dabble in ALL of TM- > associated practices without making it his religion... Who are you referring to? Michael Jackson?

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate the TMO is? > * Well, I just read "Burn before reading" by Carter's CIA chief, Admiral Stansfield Turner, and it sez right there on page 213 tha

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread anonyff
Whatever happened to Wm and Margaret Gibson's son whose name escapes me at the moment. We were together on our six month course during which time I had a great interaction with Maharishi in which Maharishi kept trying to give me the easy answer to a question, which I knew he was going to do, and I

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > on 12/26/05 6:55 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Prez Carter (he of the faith-healin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 12/26/05 10:01 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate the TMO is? >> > > * > > Well, I just read "Burn before reading" by Carter's C

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 7:35 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Prez Carter (he of the faith-healing sister who was himself an > >> evangelical Christian: http://www.alternet.org/story/18378/ ) was > >> clearly

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 10:01 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > on 12/26/05 12:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Mr friend from Canada (MIU graduate) was in Guyana at th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Peter
He was on my TTC (La Antilla'72 - Seelisberg' 73). I think it is William too. --- anonyff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whatever happened to Wm and Margaret Gibson's son > whose name escapes > me at the moment. We were together on our six month > course during > which time I had a great interactio

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > on 12/26/05 6:55 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > *** > > > > > > Prez Carter (he of the faith-heali

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > on 12/26/05 6:55 PM, bbrigante at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate the TMO is? Haven't you been paying attention? The evidence is that these TBs feel more important if the CIA was persecuting the cult they were involved with,

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And we all know the story of Leon Weiner actually getting busted > > trying to > > carry cash from Mallorca to Switzerland. And Billy and Shannon > > paying off > > the Spanish officials to get him out. > > Par for

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate the TMO is? > > Haven't you been paying attention? The evidence is > th

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 12/26/05 10:01 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-26 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > ...and the evidence that the CIA did indeed infiltrate the TMO is? > > Haven't you been paying attention? The evidence is >