[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:09 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and > > > TM-Sidhis compared to virtually every other meditation > > > technique out there, the differences are so startling and > > > drastic that anyone that choses to practice those other > > > techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ > > > TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those > > > techniques are playing as well. > > > > Like brainwashing you? > > Well, that would be one question, of course. Another is what in the > f**k does sparaig think he knows about looking at brain wave > patterns? > > The fundamentalist TMers who assume that they know all sorts of > things they don't (like being to read/interpret/compare brain wave > patterns ... and I suppose MRI's as well, god help us) are simply > nut cases, self-deluded/Mahesh-deluded bonkers, barking mad > nutters. To put not too fine a point on the matter. Nor to let *facts* get in the way of one's ignorant putdowns, either. Anybody who's paid attention to Lawson's posts over the years is aware he's extremely well versed in brain-wave research (and not just TM's research, either). Plus which, recently he's been working closely with Fred Travis, one of MUM's much-published (in independent journals) experts in EEG and related research on TM-- http://www.mum.edu/cosmic/faculty/travis --to develop a computer animation of brain-wave patterns in TMers. None of this necessarily means Lawson is competent to interpret EEGs on his own--as opposed to reporting research findings--but then he hasn't claimed to be able to do that, has he? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:09 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these > > >> days ask the question > > >> about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other > > >> wisdom teachings in > > >> participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded > > >> seekers excluded from the > > >> courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still > 1,000 > > >> +- siddhas in Fairfield > > >> not in the dome. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM- > > > Sidhis compared to virtually > > > every other meditation technique out there, the differences are > so > > > startling and drastic that > > > anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously > > > doesn't get the role that TM/ > > > TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those > techniques > > > are playing as well. > > > > Like brainwashing you? > > Well, that would be one question, of course. Another is what in the > f**k does sparaig think he knows about looking at brain wave patterns? ...about as much as he does about doing TM regularly, which he doesn't do... > > The fundamentalist TMers who assume that they know all sorts of > things they don't (like being to read/interpret/compare brain wave > patterns ... and I suppose MRI's as well, god help us) are simply nut > cases, self-deluded/Mahesh-deluded bonkers, barking mad nutters. To > put not too fine a point on the matter. > > And, just to be obstinate, just what criterion of repute has declared > the "role that TM/TM-Shidis are playing" to be worth a pot to piss in? > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:09 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" > > wrote: > > > >> > >> How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these > >> days ask the question > >> about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other > >> wisdom teachings in > >> participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded > >> seekers excluded from the > >> courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000 > >> +- siddhas in Fairfield > >> not in the dome. > >> > >> > > > > > > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM- > > Sidhis compared to virtually > > every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so > > startling and drastic that > > anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously > > doesn't get the role that TM/ > > TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques > > are playing as well. > > Like brainwashing you? Well, that would be one question, of course. Another is what in the f**k does sparaig think he knows about looking at brain wave patterns? The fundamentalist TMers who assume that they know all sorts of things they don't (like being to read/interpret/compare brain wave patterns ... and I suppose MRI's as well, god help us) are simply nut cases, self-deluded/Mahesh-deluded bonkers, barking mad nutters. To put not too fine a point on the matter. And, just to be obstinate, just what criterion of repute has declared the "role that TM/TM-Shidis are playing" to be worth a pot to piss in? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > Qi Qong meditation leads to mental problems so often that there is an actual DSM-IV > syndrome named after it: Qi Qong Psychosis. Kundalini techniques lead to this kind of > thing often enough that there is a proposal for a similar section in the DSM-IV with > Kundalini techniques. The only claim about TM is that sometimes people who already have > severe mental problems can't handle it. The DSM-IV classification referred to is in an appendix of the manual under the section "culture-bound syndromes" which is "a combination of psychiatric and somatic symptoms that are considered to be a recognizable disease only within a specific society or culture. There are no objective biochemical or structural alterations of body organs or functions, and the disease is not recognized in other cultures". "Qigong psychosis" is listed as pertaining to China only. This listing in no way implies that "qigong meditation leads to mental problems so often" as stated; in fact there is very little evidence of it in the scientific literature. The description also makes clear that the psychosis affects particularly vulnerable individuals who become overinvolved in the practice or do not practice it properly. This is something any reputable gigong teacher acknowledges. To say qigong meditation leads to psychosis is a misreading of the classification. Anyone familiar with the history of the sidhis knows that there have been hundreds of individuals who have experienced "an acute, time-limited episode characterized by dissociative, paranoid, or other psychotic or non-psychotic symptoms", the definition of qigong psychosis, and have been sent packing from governor trainings, mother divine, and MUM staff to the safety of their parent's homes or mental health centers (particularly the one in Mt. Pleasant). Does this mean that practice of the TM-sidhis lead to psychosis, as Spairag's logic implies? Of course not. It means that vulnerable individuals who overdue it without proper supervision can experience these symptoms. Note: Over 300 sidhas in ffld have been practicing a form of qigong for many years now with good results. One reason for its popularity here is the common experience that it is very grounding, something many sidhas need. PS: One of favorite stories from the late great steve schimer is how he and MMY would sit together and go over photos of CPs on the first 6 month sidhis courses in the 70s and identify the "1st floorers", ie - people who needed to be moved to the 1st floor of the hotel for fear they were getting so unstable they might try to fly out of their window. Maybe "1st floorers" should get a DSM-IV classification? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him?.)('samhita/impersonal')
--- purushaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My conclusion: levitation is a Siddhi which may or > may not occur in > conjunction with BC; and additional research should > be undertaken > (preferably through one's own experience); to > ascertain the precise > causations behind levitation: so that one can either > keep the > spectacle a secret or package and market it, thus > getting rich. 1000 more lifetimes for you, Grasshopper. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him?.)('samhita/impersonal')
--But (discussion below regarding St. Theresa of Avila...one of over 100 levitating Catholic Saints); the commonality among such Christian Saints was Jesus and Mary, not the impersonal Absolute. If realization of the Self were the sole requirement, then impersonalists would automatically be levitators; but we have not seen this association. However, there is a common attribute of the levitating Catholic Saints: out of body projection. In addition, (based on my assessment of the biographies of the Saints), few if any of the RC Saints seem to be E'd. (St. John of the Cross could have been, judging by descriptions of various states of progressive awareness in his autiobiographical works). He was another levitator and a contemporary friend of St. Theresa of Avila. My conclusion: levitation is a Siddhi which may or may not occur in conjunction with BC; and additional research should be undertaken (preferably through one's own experience); to ascertain the precise causations behind levitation: so that one can either keep the spectacle a secret or package and market it, thus getting rich. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > wrote: > > > > > > > The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of > > > > God. > > > > > > Not the Godhead (the "Samhita" of the Trinity)? > > > > > > > How can samhita be impersonal? > It seems like it would be both, personal and impersonal; > The part of it that is universal is impersonal; > And the part of it that is 'refracted' thru you; > Is personal. > So, the whole Jesus metaphor; > Which I believe is misunderstood by the masses thru time... > Is that the soul, or the Holy Spirit, was fully expressed thru him. > And he demonstrated some of the abilities associated with this state > of consciousness, as Maharishi has tried to do, with the Siddhis, > etc. and other extraordinary powers... > So, I'm sure, to go back to the Saint Teresa analogy; > When she became engulfed in the energy of the Holy Spirit; > It was enough to lift her up into the air; > So, part of her was lifted up by it. > And part of it was lifted up by it thru her. > Make sense to anyone? > Good... > R.G. > . > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Not only is it hot where I am -but then again it's almost always hot here- but there's a a hurricain acomin'! YeeHaw!! --- curtisdeltablues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just keep that fan Vastu right, pointed right at ya! > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > You've got the life up there man! > > > > > It's only 100 degrees. (but my house does point > the RIGHT way VB :-) ) > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "curtisdeltablues" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That's why I said it was more than I > expected. Maybe they'll > get to > > > > > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like > timeshare sales > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > > > > > > > The whole setup is a marker's dream. Put > MMY on the tube for > a few > > > > > hours talking about the "A" in Agni after a > long program, and > > then lay > > > > > some product offers on them! The course is > the loss leader. > Other > > > > > then herding them in with fear and guilt, it > is pretty much > > timeshare > > > > > marketing 101, you nailed it! > > > > > > > > > > I just spent a nice few days at Indian Lake > and Big Boulder ski > > > > > resort. What a beautiful area. Now that I > am back in the > > smoldering > > > > > furnace of DC again I really miss those cool > mountains. > > > > > > > > > Call me cynical, but I'll bet the courses turn > a profit ...(don't > > > > forget the donors). No problem with the > profit, it's the dishonesty > > > > that's the problem. > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > PS Was up at Camelback Waterpark last > Sunday :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "jyouells2000" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "sparaig" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "jyouells2000" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Robert Gimbel" > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were > doing other > stuff. And > > > > > seeing > > > > > > > > > as how > > > > > > > > > > > someone else just got thrown out > for that, how likely > > > is it > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > they'd > > > > > > > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not > that there'd even be > > that > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > willing > > > > > > > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi > would be open about it? > > > > Why even > > > > > > > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his > answer; > > > > > > > > > If you never ask, you'll never > know... > > > > > > > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: > "Action is always > > > > superior to > > > > > > > > > inaction", because at least you get > an answer... > > > > > > > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some > 'Heavy Dudes', in > India? > > > > > > > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat > Wala Baba? > > > > > > > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in > the Dome? > > > > > > > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if > someone would only ask... > > > > > > > > > That has been the problem; there > have been such > controlling; > > > > > > > > > People around Maharishi, that they > intimidate; > > > > > > > > > Even the asking of a perfectly > relevant question: > > > > > > > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs > speak to both > Maharishi's > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > TMO's openness. That's why the > participation is as it is. > > 27,000 > > > > > > > > siddha's ... less than 2000 > participating. That's actually > > more > > > > > than I > > > > > > > > expected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics > go to see the Pope? > > Not 6 > > > > > > percent, I'll bet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's why I said it was more than I > expected. Maybe they'll > > get to > > > > > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like > timeshare sales > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or g
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Just keep that fan Vastu right, pointed right at ya! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > You've got the life up there man! > > > It's only 100 degrees. (but my house does point the RIGHT way VB :-) ) > > JohnY > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > > > > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > > > > > The whole setup is a marker's dream. Put MMY on the tube for a few > > > > hours talking about the "A" in Agni after a long program, and > then lay > > > > some product offers on them! The course is the loss leader. Other > > > > then herding them in with fear and guilt, it is pretty much > timeshare > > > > marketing 101, you nailed it! > > > > > > > > I just spent a nice few days at Indian Lake and Big Boulder ski > > > > resort. What a beautiful area. Now that I am back in the > smoldering > > > > furnace of DC again I really miss those cool mountains. > > > > > > > Call me cynical, but I'll bet the courses turn a profit ...(don't > > > forget the donors). No problem with the profit, it's the dishonesty > > > that's the problem. > > > > > > JohnY > > > PS Was up at Camelback Waterpark last Sunday :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And > > > > seeing > > > > > > > > as how > > > > > > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely > > is it > > > > > that > > > > > > > > they'd > > > > > > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be > that > > > > many > > > > > > > > willing > > > > > > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? > > > Why even > > > > > > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > > > > > > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > > > > > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always > > > superior to > > > > > > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > > > > > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > > > > > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > > > > > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > > > > > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > > > > > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > > > > > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > > > > > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > > > > > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's > > > > and the > > > > > > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. > 27,000 > > > > > > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually > more > > > > than I > > > > > > > expected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? > Not 6 > > > > > percent, I'll bet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll > get to > > > > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You've got the life up there man! > It's only 100 degrees. (but my house does point the RIGHT way VB :-) ) JohnY > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > wrote: > > > > > > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > > > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > Hey John, > > > > > > The whole setup is a marker's dream. Put MMY on the tube for a few > > > hours talking about the "A" in Agni after a long program, and then lay > > > some product offers on them! The course is the loss leader. Other > > > then herding them in with fear and guilt, it is pretty much timeshare > > > marketing 101, you nailed it! > > > > > > I just spent a nice few days at Indian Lake and Big Boulder ski > > > resort. What a beautiful area. Now that I am back in the smoldering > > > furnace of DC again I really miss those cool mountains. > > > > > Call me cynical, but I'll bet the courses turn a profit ...(don't > > forget the donors). No problem with the profit, it's the dishonesty > > that's the problem. > > > > JohnY > > PS Was up at Camelback Waterpark last Sunday :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And > > > seeing > > > > > > > as how > > > > > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely > is it > > > > that > > > > > > > they'd > > > > > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that > > > many > > > > > > > willing > > > > > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? > > Why even > > > > > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > > > > > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > > > > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always > > superior to > > > > > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > > > > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > > > > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > > > > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > > > > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > > > > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > > > > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > > > > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > > > > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's > > > and the > > > > > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > > > > > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more > > > than I > > > > > > expected > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 > > > > percent, I'll bet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > > > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "martyboi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I attended a Catholic mass once. During the sermon the priest said: > > "The holy spirit is like water. God, the father, is like ice. And > Jesus, his son, is like slightly melted ice." I immediatly thought of > MMY's H20 analogies (water, vapor, ice)- and wondered if the priest > was a meditator. > > My take, FWIW, is that the holy spirit is a vibration (an unmoved > mover) within the universal consciousness - stillness on the move - > that is manifested when "one's" attention is put on it. In groups, it > manifests more clearly due to collective consciousness effects. As in: > when two or more are gathered in my name "I AM" "present". > > The holy spirit, IMO, is not a noun - an object, but a verb. The > process of silence becoming aware of itself - when small, relative > self splashes into the silence of big, absolute self - and the waves > of nurturing influence spread into creation in a palpable way. I guess the Holy Spirit in Sanskrit terms could be just the idea of prana, or the 'Breath of God' Or that invisible thing called 'Love'; Like the invisible force called 'Gravity'; Which we are all trying in some small way... To Overcome (we shall overcome, someday...); So, the more prana you have; Or the more Holy Spirit you have; Or can hold in you container (The Body); Well, then this is the key to 'Levitation'; Because, as I have heard (thru the grapevine); That a Catholic Saint, by the name of Teresa of Avila, She did appear to 'Levitate'; In the company of many witnesses, in her church; When experiencing the comfort and 'Bliss'; Of the Holy Spirit; Flowing thru her; It filled her with such energy; That she actually would 'lift up off the ground, quite high; And quite embarrassed; As she had little control over; When this 'Levitation', would all of the sudden, happen... So, guys and gals; Keep up the good work; And hopefully; We'll all be a 'Levitatin', soon, Like: "Back in the Day"; Saint Teresa of Avila, Jai Guru Dev > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
You've got the life up there man! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > > > > > JohnY > > > > Hey John, > > > > The whole setup is a marker's dream. Put MMY on the tube for a few > > hours talking about the "A" in Agni after a long program, and then lay > > some product offers on them! The course is the loss leader. Other > > then herding them in with fear and guilt, it is pretty much timeshare > > marketing 101, you nailed it! > > > > I just spent a nice few days at Indian Lake and Big Boulder ski > > resort. What a beautiful area. Now that I am back in the smoldering > > furnace of DC again I really miss those cool mountains. > > > Call me cynical, but I'll bet the courses turn a profit ...(don't > forget the donors). No problem with the profit, it's the dishonesty > that's the problem. > > JohnY > PS Was up at Camelback Waterpark last Sunday :-) > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And > > seeing > > > > > > as how > > > > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it > > > that > > > > > > they'd > > > > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that > > many > > > > > > willing > > > > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? > Why even > > > > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > > > > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > > > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always > superior to > > > > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > > > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > > > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > > > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > > > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > > > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > > > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > > > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > > > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's > > and the > > > > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > > > > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more > > than I > > > > > expected > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 > > > percent, I'll bet. > > > > > > > > > > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > > > JohnY > > Hey John, > > The whole setup is a marker's dream. Put MMY on the tube for a few > hours talking about the "A" in Agni after a long program, and then lay > some product offers on them! The course is the loss leader. Other > then herding them in with fear and guilt, it is pretty much timeshare > marketing 101, you nailed it! > > I just spent a nice few days at Indian Lake and Big Boulder ski > resort. What a beautiful area. Now that I am back in the smoldering > furnace of DC again I really miss those cool mountains. > Call me cynical, but I'll bet the courses turn a profit ...(don't forget the donors). No problem with the profit, it's the dishonesty that's the problem. JohnY PS Was up at Camelback Waterpark last Sunday :-) > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And > seeing > > > > > as how > > > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it > > that > > > > > they'd > > > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that > many > > > > > willing > > > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > > > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's > and the > > > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > > > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more > than I > > > > expected > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 > > percent, I'll bet. > > > > > > > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > > > JohnY > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > JohnY Hey John, The whole setup is a marker's dream. Put MMY on the tube for a few hours talking about the "A" in Agni after a long program, and then lay some product offers on them! The course is the loss leader. Other then herding them in with fear and guilt, it is pretty much timeshare marketing 101, you nailed it! I just spent a nice few days at Indian Lake and Big Boulder ski resort. What a beautiful area. Now that I am back in the smoldering furnace of DC again I really miss those cool mountains. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > > > as how > > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it > that > > > > they'd > > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > > > willing > > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > > > expected > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 > percent, I'll bet. > > > > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > JohnY > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of > > God. > > Not the Godhead (the "Samhita" of the Trinity)? > How can samhita be impersonal? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 2, 2006, at 3:03 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman > > wrote: > > > >> > >> Re: Ask MMY > >> Posted by: "sparaig" sparaig@ sparaig > >> Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:11 pm (PST) > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" > >> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > >>> > >> dome these days ask the question > >> > >>> about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the > >>> > >> inclusion of other wisdom teachings in > >> > >>> participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid > >>> > >> broadminded seekers excluded from the > >> > >>> courses or included to bring up the numbers. There > >>> > >> are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield > >> > >>> not in the dome. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM > >> and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually > >> every other meditation technique out there, the > >> differences are so startling and drastic that > >> anyone that choses to practice those other techniques > >> obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ > >> TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect > >> those techniques are playing as well. > >> > >> Given the insensitivity of such people, its only > >> politeness that brings the TMO to ban them > >> without any comment: they're stupid and > >> counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it. > >> > >> > >> I think you actually believe your own bullshit. > >> What techniques tha t are detrimental are you > >> referring to? > >> And what research do you have to back up your claims.? > >> Thruout India I have sat with various gurus who > >> extolled the virtues of sadhana but never mentioned > >> TM. > >> Even at Jyotir Math the shankaracharya's right hand > >> man, > >> Ramananda Saraswati, told me his main sadhana was > >> japa, > >> not TM. > >> Just because you write it , does not make it so. > >> You should take a lie detector test. After reading a > >> number of your posts I believe you will make up > >> anything to justify your point of view and have a > >> great need to be right, truth be damned. > >> Get some help man, for God's sake. > >> > > > > And MMY revived TM in its pure form, so Nyah. > > And apparently so did the thousands of other people who always taught > it in it's pure (and fuller) form. > So you say. Where's the research? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:09 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" > > wrote: > > > >> > >> How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these > >> days ask the question > >> about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other > >> wisdom teachings in > >> participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded > >> seekers excluded from the > >> courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000 > >> +- siddhas in Fairfield > >> not in the dome. > >> > >> > > > > > > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM- > > Sidhis compared to virtually > > every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so > > startling and drastic that > > anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously > > doesn't get the role that TM/ > > TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques > > are playing as well. > > Like brainwashing you? > Pot, kettle, etc. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
I attended a Catholic mass once. During the sermon the priest said: "The holy spirit is like water. God, the father, is like ice. And Jesus, his son, is like slightly melted ice." I immediatly thought of MMY's H20 analogies (water, vapor, ice)- and wondered if the priest was a meditator. My take, FWIW, is that the holy spirit is a vibration (an unmoved mover) within the universal consciousness - stillness on the move - that is manifested when "one's" attention is put on it. In groups, it manifests more clearly due to collective consciousness effects. As in: when two or more are gathered in my name "I AM" "present". The holy spirit, IMO, is not a noun - an object, but a verb. The process of silence becoming aware of itself - when small, relative self splashes into the silence of big, absolute self - and the waves of nurturing influence spread into creation in a palpable way. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
On Aug 2, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Robert Gimbel wrote:The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of God. The actual words for "Holy Spirit' in Aramaic/Hebrew is Ruach HaKodesh and it is a form of shakti which makes prophecy possible. In tantric terms it would be the downward descent of shakti once kundalini reaches the crown chakra. This mystery is also concealed in the shape of the Hebrew letter Shin, which looks like a downward moving dove. Well, that image makes total sense, and goes along with the prayer of Jesus: 'Our Father who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy Name, Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on earth, as it is in Heaven... Give us this day, our daily bread, and forgive our tresspasses, as we forgive those that trespass against us; And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil; For thine is the Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, forever, and ever, Amen. So, it's bringing Heaven from above, opening the crown chakra; And bringing the energy of the Holy Spirit, down into the earth... Om Shri Shakti Namah Om Shri Shivaiyam Namah Om Also the "secret" name of Jesus, which is IHVH with "Shin (Sh)" in the middle:IHShVH or Yeheshuah, the Holy Spirit descending into the Four Worlds (of IHVH), HaShem becomes "flesh", and each one of us hopefully. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > JohnY Hey John, The whole setup is a marker's dream. Put MMY on the tube for a few hours talking about the "A" in Agni after a long program, and then lay some product offers on them! The course is the loss leader. Other then herding them in with fear and guilt, it is pretty much timeshare marketing 101, you nailed it! I just spent a nice few days at Indian Lake and Big Boulder ski resort. What a beautiful area. Now that I am back in the smoldering furnace of DC again I really miss those cool mountains. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > > > as how > > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it > that > > > > they'd > > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > > > willing > > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > > > expected > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 > percent, I'll bet. > > > > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to > sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales > > JohnY > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > wrote: > > The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of > > God. > > Yes, I forgot; It is the Holy Spirit, which is the impersonal > aspect of God... > So, is there any way to contact or imbibe the Holy Spirit- > In the literature, or through contemplation, or what. > Sometimes, when I get into a jam, I will think: Holy Spirit, be > with me... If the Holy Spirit is parallel to what MMY calls the impersonal God (the Absolute, or Brahman), it would be metaphysically impossible for it to be "with" you, because you are It, and It is you, no? I'm not sure the Holy Spirit *is* parallel to the impersonal God, but I'm certainly no expert in Catholicism. FWIW, in Protestant Christianity--not sure about Catholic--the Holy Spirit is (among other things) said to be what enables one to perceive the truth of Scripture. I *think* the Holy Spirit would also be parallel to the Shechinah of Judaism, the divine presence that dwells within (Shechinah in Hebrew is a feminine noun, interestingly). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of > God. Not the Godhead (the "Samhita" of the Trinity)? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
> >>> If the Pope was offering an non-denominational > >>> > >> technique to > >> experience > >> > >>> the impersonal aspect of God, I'm sure alot of > >>> > >> people would I > >> mean > >> > >>> 'er 'um, ah, never mind :) > >>> > >>> JohnY > >>> > >> > >> Hey JohnY, > >> What exactly would the impersonal aspect of God be > >> to the Catholics? > >> I thought it was all about the personal aspect of > >> God. > >> Whether it be Jesus, or Mary, or the many statues of > >> the crucifixion. > >> I'm not sure whether, the Catholics would want to > >> entertain, such, > >> A concept, as the impersonal aspect of God. > >> That would put the 'Control', of the Universe; > >> Out of their hands- The hands of the mighty chuch; > >> And all of their semi-ancient Roman structure. > >> No, JohnY, I don't think the Popa would like this > >> concept at all. > >> By the way, how's the pizza up there ? > >> > >> R.G. > >> > > > > The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of > > God. > > The actual words for "Holy Spirit' in Aramaic/Hebrew is Ruach > HaKodesh and it is a form of shakti which makes prophecy possible. In > tantric terms it would be the downward descent of shakti once > kundalini reaches the crown chakra. This mystery is also concealed in > the shape of the Hebrew letter Shin, which looks like a downward > moving dove. Well, that image makes total sense, and goes along with the prayer of Jesus: 'Our Father who art in Heaven, Hallowed be thy Name, Thy Kingdom come, Thy Will be done, on earth, as it is in Heaven... Give us this day, our daily bread, and forgive our tresspasses, as we forgive those that trespass against us; And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil; For thine is the Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory, forever, and ever, Amen. So, it's bringing Heaven from above, opening the crown chakra; And bringing the energy of the Holy Spirit, down into the earth... Om Shri Shakti Namah Om Shri Shivaiyam Namah Om > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to > > see the Pope? Not 6 > > > percent, I'll bet. > > > > > > > > > > If the Pope was offering an non-denominational > > technique to > > experience > > > the impersonal aspect of God, I'm sure alot of > > people would I > > mean > > > 'er 'um, ah, never mind :) > > > > > > JohnY > > > > Hey JohnY, > > What exactly would the impersonal aspect of God be > > to the Catholics? > > I thought it was all about the personal aspect of > > God. > > Whether it be Jesus, or Mary, or the many statues of > > the crucifixion. > > I'm not sure whether, the Catholics would want to > > entertain, such, > > A concept, as the impersonal aspect of God. > > That would put the 'Control', of the Universe; > > Out of their hands- The hands of the mighty chuch; > > And all of their semi-ancient Roman structure. > > No, JohnY, I don't think the Popa would like this > > concept at all. > > By the way, how's the pizza up there ? > > > > R.G. > > The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of > God. Yes, I forgot; It is the Holy Spirit, which is the impersonal aspect of God... So, is there any way to contact or imbibe the Holy Spirit- In the literature, or through contemplation, or what. Sometimes, when I get into a jam, I will think: Holy Spirit, be with me... So, I guess, that's an easy thing to do... But still transcendence remains the thing... That's where the power of the 'Light' is... In Beingness...and that is a hard thing to convey, As Maharishi likes to say; Without direct experience... > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
On Aug 2, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Peter wrote: --- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet. If the Pope was offering an non-denominational technique to experience the impersonal aspect of God, I'm sure alot of people would I mean 'er 'um, ah, never mind :) JohnY Hey JohnY, What exactly would the impersonal aspect of God be to the Catholics? I thought it was all about the personal aspect of God. Whether it be Jesus, or Mary, or the many statues of the crucifixion. I'm not sure whether, the Catholics would want to entertain, such, A concept, as the impersonal aspect of God. That would put the 'Control', of the Universe; Out of their hands- The hands of the mighty chuch; And all of their semi-ancient Roman structure. No, JohnY, I don't think the Popa would like this concept at all. By the way, how's the pizza up there ? R.G. The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of God. The actual words for "Holy Spirit' in Aramaic/Hebrew is Ruach HaKodesh and it is a form of shakti which makes prophecy possible. In tantric terms it would be the downward descent of shakti once kundalini reaches the crown chakra. This mystery is also concealed in the shape of the Hebrew letter Shin, which looks like a downward moving dove. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
--- Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to > see the Pope? Not 6 > > percent, I'll bet. > > > > > > > If the Pope was offering an non-denominational > technique to > experience > > the impersonal aspect of God, I'm sure alot of > people would I > mean > > 'er 'um, ah, never mind :) > > > > JohnY > > Hey JohnY, > What exactly would the impersonal aspect of God be > to the Catholics? > I thought it was all about the personal aspect of > God. > Whether it be Jesus, or Mary, or the many statues of > the crucifixion. > I'm not sure whether, the Catholics would want to > entertain, such, > A concept, as the impersonal aspect of God. > That would put the 'Control', of the Universe; > Out of their hands- The hands of the mighty chuch; > And all of their semi-ancient Roman structure. > No, JohnY, I don't think the Popa would like this > concept at all. > By the way, how's the pizza up there ? > > R.G. The Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit is the impersonal aspect of God. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman wrote: > > You should take a lie detector test. After reading a > > number of your posts I believe you will make up > > anything to justify your point of view and have a > > great need to be right, truth be damned. > > Get some help man, for God's sake. > > Feeling threatened? Gosh, I thought it was only the True Believers here who made ad hominem attacks and called into question the integrity of those with differing points of view. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 > > percent, I'll bet. > > > > > > > If the Pope was offering an non-denominational technique to > experience > > the impersonal aspect of God, I'm sure alot of people would I > mean > > 'er 'um, ah, never mind :) > > > > JohnY > > Hey JohnY, > What exactly would the impersonal aspect of God be to the Catholics? > I thought it was all about the personal aspect of God. > Whether it be Jesus, or Mary, or the many statues of the crucifixion. > I'm not sure whether, the Catholics would want to entertain, such, > A concept, as the impersonal aspect of God. > That would put the 'Control', of the Universe; > Out of their hands- The hands of the mighty chuch; > And all of their semi-ancient Roman structure. > No, JohnY, I don't think the Popa would like this concept at all. > By the way, how's the pizza up there ? > > R.G. > Robert --> the :) at the end... (It was a weak attempt at humor :) ) JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY(no, You ask Him...)
> > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 > percent, I'll bet. > > > > If the Pope was offering an non-denominational technique to experience > the impersonal aspect of God, I'm sure alot of people would I mean > 'er 'um, ah, never mind :) > > JohnY Hey JohnY, What exactly would the impersonal aspect of God be to the Catholics? I thought it was all about the personal aspect of God. Whether it be Jesus, or Mary, or the many statues of the crucifixion. I'm not sure whether, the Catholics would want to entertain, such, A concept, as the impersonal aspect of God. That would put the 'Control', of the Universe; Out of their hands- The hands of the mighty chuch; And all of their semi-ancient Roman structure. No, JohnY, I don't think the Popa would like this concept at all. By the way, how's the pizza up there ? R.G. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
On Aug 2, 2006, at 3:03 AM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Re: Ask MMY Posted by: "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sparaig Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:11 pm (PST) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" wrote: How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days ask the question about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings in participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers excluded from the courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield not in the dome. Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so startling and drastic that anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques are playing as well. Given the insensitivity of such people, its only politeness that brings the TMO to ban them without any comment: they're stupid and counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it. I think you actually believe your own bullshit. What techniques tha t are detrimental are you referring to? And what research do you have to back up your claims.? Thruout India I have sat with various gurus who extolled the virtues of sadhana but never mentioned TM. Even at Jyotir Math the shankaracharya's right hand man, Ramananda Saraswati, told me his main sadhana was japa, not TM. Just because you write it , does not make it so. You should take a lie detector test. After reading a number of your posts I believe you will make up anything to justify your point of view and have a great need to be right, truth be damned. Get some help man, for God's sake. And MMY revived TM in its pure form, so Nyah. And apparently so did the thousands of other people who always taught it in it's pure (and fuller) form. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:09 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days ask the question about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings in participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers excluded from the courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield not in the dome.Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so startling and drastic that anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques are playing as well. Like brainwashing you? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Re: Ask MMY > Posted by: "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sparaig > Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:11 pm (PST) > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" > wrote: > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > dome these days ask the question > > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the > inclusion of other wisdom teachings in > > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid > broadminded seekers excluded from the > > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There > are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield > > not in the dome. > > > > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM > and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually > every other meditation technique out there, the > differences are so startling and drastic that > anyone that choses to practice those other techniques > obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ > TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect > those techniques are playing as well. > > Given the insensitivity of such people, its only > politeness that brings the TMO to ban them > without any comment: they're stupid and > counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it. > > > I think you actually believe your own bullshit. > What techniques tha t are detrimental are you > referring to? Qi Qong meditation leads to mental problems so often that there is an actual DSM-IV syndrome named after it: Qi Qong Psychosis. Kundalini techniques lead to this kind of thing often enough that there is a proposal for a similar section in the DSM-IV with Kundalini techniques. The only claim about TM is that sometimes people who already have severe mental problems can't handle it. BTW, the kid that murdered the other kid at MUM had apparently decided, *ON HIS OWN*, to stop taking his anti-psychosis meds. It's impossible to tell whether or not TM had anything to do with his behavior, but on its face, it doesn't seem likely. Going cold turkey off that kind of thing without medical supervision is well known to lead to ultra-violent behavior. No need to blame TM for it. > And what research do you have to back up your claims.? See the DSM-IV. > Thruout India I have sat with various gurus who > extolled the virtues of sadhana but never mentioned > TM. Well, like duh. It's hard to claim guru-hood if someone gets more out of justing sitting quietly for 20 minues twice-daily. > Even at Jyotir Math the shankaracharya's right hand > man, > Ramananda Saraswati, told me his main sadhana was > japa, > not TM. Gurudev didn't devise a householder's technique for the masses. > Just because you write it , does not make it so. Yep. > You should take a lie detector test. After reading a > number of your posts I believe you will make up > anything to justify your point of view and have a > great need to be right, truth be damned. > Get some help man, for God's sake. Feeling threatened? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Re: Ask MMY > Posted by: "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sparaig > Tue Aug 1, 2006 8:15 pm (PST) > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" < > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the > Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet. > > More spin. > SO with the chance t ostop the end of the world > 94% think it is not worth the time and effort to even > bother. > "So, how many think coming to the dome is waste of > time?" > "AHHH. Almost everybody." You think that the Roman Catholics don't have Peace Masses and the like? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steven klayman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Re: Ask MMY > Posted by: "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sparaig > Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:11 pm (PST) > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" > wrote: > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > dome these days ask the question > > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the > inclusion of other wisdom teachings in > > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid > broadminded seekers excluded from the > > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There > are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield > > not in the dome. > > > > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM > and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually > every other meditation technique out there, the > differences are so startling and drastic that > anyone that choses to practice those other techniques > obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ > TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect > those techniques are playing as well. > > Given the insensitivity of such people, its only > politeness that brings the TMO to ban them > without any comment: they're stupid and > counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it. > > > I think you actually believe your own bullshit. > What techniques tha t are detrimental are you > referring to? > And what research do you have to back up your claims.? > Thruout India I have sat with various gurus who > extolled the virtues of sadhana but never mentioned > TM. > Even at Jyotir Math the shankaracharya's right hand > man, > Ramananda Saraswati, told me his main sadhana was > japa, > not TM. > Just because you write it , does not make it so. > You should take a lie detector test. After reading a > number of your posts I believe you will make up > anything to justify your point of view and have a > great need to be right, truth be damned. > Get some help man, for God's sake. And MMY revived TM in its pure form, so Nyah. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Re: Ask MMY Posted by: "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sparaig Tue Aug 1, 2006 8:15 pm (PST) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" < 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet. More spin. SO with the chance t ostop the end of the world 94% think it is not worth the time and effort to even bother. "So, how many think coming to the dome is waste of time?" "AHHH. Almost everybody." __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > > as how > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > > > they'd > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > > willing > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > > expected > > > > JohnY > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet. > If the Pope was offering an non-denominational technique to experience the impersonal aspect of God, I'm sure alot of people would I mean 'er 'um, ah, never mind :) JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > > as how > > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > > > they'd > > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > > willing > > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > > Very Sad!!! > > > > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > > expected > > > > JohnY > > > > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet. > That's why I said it was more than I expected. Maybe they'll get to sell lots of vastu construction. Just like timeshare sales JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Re: Ask MMY Posted by: "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sparaig Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:11 pm (PST) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days ask the question > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings in > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers excluded from the > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield > not in the dome. > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so startling and drastic that anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques are playing as well. Given the insensitivity of such people, its only politeness that brings the TMO to ban them without any comment: they're stupid and counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it. I think you actually believe your own bullshit. What techniques tha t are detrimental are you referring to? And what research do you have to back up your claims.? Thruout India I have sat with various gurus who extolled the virtues of sadhana but never mentioned TM. Even at Jyotir Math the shankaracharya's right hand man, Ramananda Saraswati, told me his main sadhana was japa, not TM. Just because you write it , does not make it so. You should take a lie detector test. After reading a number of your posts I believe you will make up anything to justify your point of view and have a great need to be right, truth be damned. Get some help man, for God's sake. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > as how > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > > they'd > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > willing > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > Very Sad!!! > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > expected > > JohnY > 6% turnout? Not bad. How many Catholics go to see the Pope? Not 6 percent, I'll bet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > as how > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > > they'd > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > willing > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > Very Sad!!! > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > expected > > JohnY > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > > as how > > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > > they'd > > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > > willing > > > > to go.) > > > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > > bother to ask? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > > If you never ask, you'll never know... > > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > > Very Sad!!! > > > > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the > TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 > siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I > expected > > JohnY > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing > as how > > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > they'd > > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many > willing > > > to go.) > > > > > > Sal > > > > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > bother to ask? > > > > JohnY > > Well, you might be surprised by his answer; > If you never ask, you'll never know... > The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to > inaction", because at least you get an answer... > Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? > Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? > Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? > So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... > That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; > People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; > Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: > Very Sad!!! > The quaility of the current programs speak to both Maharishi's and the TMO's openness. That's why the participation is as it is. 27,000 siddha's ... less than 2000 participating. That's actually more than I expected JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > > to go.) > > > > Sal > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > bother to ask? > > JohnY Well, you might be surprised by his answer; If you never ask, you'll never know... The Baghavad Gita states this, in: "Action is always superior to inaction", because at least you get an answer... Didn't Maharishi hang out with some 'Heavy Dudes', in India? Didn't he hang with people like, Tat Wala Baba? Would Tat Wala Baba, be allowed in the Dome? So, I wouldn't be surprised, if someone would only ask... That has been the problem; there have been such controlling; People around Maharishi, that they intimidate; Even the asking of a perfectly relevant question: Very Sad!!! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
The black cab incident allegedly happened somewhat later, late 70's I reckon, landed at Heathrow, hailed a cab and said the fare would be paid at the other end! But the point is, they did not know he was dropping in. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at uns_tressor@ wrote: > > > > >> > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > >> > > > >>> > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > >>> > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > >>> > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > >>> > > in participants lives > > > > > >> > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > > >> > > > >> > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > > >> >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > > >> >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > > >> >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > > >> >to go.) > > >> > > > >> > Sal > > >> > > > > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > > > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > > > impenetratable barrier, and keep him in "splendid isolation". > > > Uns. > > > > > He¹s calling in to the dome everyday, and > >people are asking him questions. As far as I know > >the questions aren¹t screened. Anyone with the guts > >to do so could ask him such a question. > > I have never heard a tape of Maharishi facing an edgy > question. It all seems cosy and stage managed. He doesn't > want feedback. Paul mentioned him turning up unexpectedly > (a few posts back). This will have been in the late fifties > or early sixties when teaching was expanding, and the world > situation was improving. M walls himself off, and now I am > told that the bottom has fallen out of teaching, weekend > courses, sidhi courses, SCI etc etc. We have become a grey > haired movement. (These comments apply to the UK - before > the 5/11 statement, but I expect that there are many parallels > to you folk in the States. > Uns. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > > in participants lives > > > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >to go.) > > > > Sal > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". > Uns. > MMY is surrounded by the kind of people he wants to be surrounded by, for whatever reason (if there is one) that he chooses them to be there. You can't blame the failures of the TMO on anyone but him. Likewise, any successes of the TMO go back to his designs as well. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
I believe that. While I have never "been around him" in the sense that it was just a few people including myself in the room with him, the times I have seen him, mostly on the TOU course here and the first Holland course, a total of maybe a dozen times, he looked pretty removed and didn't say a word any of those times. Sal On Aug 1, 2006, at 4:16 PM, geezerfreak wrote: Do you really believe that MMY is unaware of what goes on around him? I notice that many here use that one as an excuse for whatever the weirdness of the day is. It's been a few years, but I've been around him. He knows and is in complete control.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" wrote: > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days ask the question > > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings in > > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers excluded from the > > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- siddhas in Fairfield > > not in the dome. > > > > > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM- Sidhis compared to virtually > every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so startling and drastic that > anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ > TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques are playing as well. > > Given the insensitivity of such people, its only politeness that brings the TMO to ban them > without any comment: they're stupid and counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it. I'm not sure I understand what this whole controversy is about? >From my experience in the dome, years ago; It seemed that the group practice is really powerful; If you had the least bit of fatique, It seemed you would fall asleep... So, if you fell asleep, would you still be doing your program, While you were asleep?, of course not...would it effect anything in the dome?, of course not... If the group dome experience, is so powerful; I see no need of fear, that someone doing something slightly different; Is going to negatively effect anything? I think it's more of a political statement than anything... Like: "Do it our way, or hit the highway"... > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
But I would think the fact that they are even *in* the dome would indicate that someone wouldn't have the guts to ask even a mildly confrontational question...right? Because the minute they do...boom!...out on their ass. Sal On Aug 1, 2006, at 3:19 PM, Rick Archer wrote: on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > in participants lives > whereupon Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sagely opined: > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing >to go.) > > Sal > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". Uns. He’s calling in to the dome everyday, and people are asking him questions. As far as I know, the questions aren’t screened. Anyone with the guts to do so could ask him such a question. __
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > > in participants lives > > > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >to go.) > > > > Sal > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". > Uns. > Do you really beleive that MMY is unaware of what goes on around him? I notice that many here use that one as an excuse for whatever the weirdness of the day is. It's been a few years, but I've been around him. He knows and is in complete control. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > to go.) > > Sal > And the subtext is: they neither need you or want you but are too polite to say. > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days > > ask the question > > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom > > teachings in > > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers > > excluded from the > > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- > > siddhas in Fairfield > > not in the dome. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "blissbunn1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days ask the > question > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom > teachings in > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers > excluded from the > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- siddhas > in Fairfield > not in the dome. > Actually, if you look at the brainwave patterns of TM and the TM-Sidhis compared to virtually every other meditation technique out there, the differences are so startling and drastic that anyone that choses to practice those other techniques obviously doesn't get the role that TM/ TM-Sidhis are playing. AND, the detrimental effect those techniques are playing as well. Given the insensitivity of such people, its only politeness that brings the TMO to ban them without any comment: they're stupid and counter-evolutionary, but the TMO doesn't say it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > >> > > >>> > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > >>> > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > >>> > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > >>> > > in participants lives > > > >> > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > >> > > >> > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > >> >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > >> >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > >> >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >> >to go.) > >> > > >> > Sal > >> > > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > > impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". > > Uns. > > > He¹s calling in to the dome everyday, and people are asking him questions. > As far as I know, the questions aren¹t screened. Anyone with the guts to do > so could ask him such a question. I didn't know Maharishi was calling the dome, everyday; That is certainly one-pointed of him, at his age... My limited experience in the presence of Maharishi; And a few interactions with him, during the seventies; And early eighties, doing some video with him; One thing I noticed, is that for him; It seems he can only put his attention on the positive; I would watch his eyes, and where he would look; And it would always seem he would look to find the joy; Or bliss, wherever it was in the room, on the terrace; wherever... Also, you feel the 'Unity Consciousness', radiating from him; So, what you speak to him, it's as if you feel like you are speaking to yourself- and it can be quite disconcerting, especially if your ego is very engaged. So, it is strange that he is surrounded by the types of people; Who he has around him, But, I guess, it's about money, and the discipline of one's with that kind of money, to devote themselves to him with an undieing love... > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > >> > > >>> > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > >>> > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > >>> > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > >>> > > in participants lives > > > >> > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > >> > > >> > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > >> >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > >> >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > >> >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >> >to go.) > >> > > >> > Sal > >> > > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > > impenetratable barrier, and keep him in "splendid isolation". > > Uns. > > > He¹s calling in to the dome everyday, and >people are asking him questions. As far as I know >the questions aren¹t screened. Anyone with the guts >to do so could ask him such a question. I have never heard a tape of Maharishi facing an edgy question. It all seems cosy and stage managed. He doesn't want feedback. Paul mentioned him turning up unexpectedly (a few posts back). This will have been in the late fifties or early sixties when teaching was expanding, and the world situation was improving. M walls himself off, and now I am told that the bottom has fallen out of teaching, weekend courses, sidhi courses, SCI etc etc. We have become a grey haired movement. (These comments apply to the UK - before the 5/11 statement, but I expect that there are many parallels to you folk in the States. Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY on 8/1/06 8:57 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you saying MMY ought to get out more? I once heard a tale of him turning up unexpectedly in a black cab at one of the movement properties in the middle of the English countryside, apparently it really threw everyone. One time he was traveling with Vesey in the UK and he showed up unexpectedly at Mrs. Gill’s, an old founder of the movement. He had Vesey hide in the bushes so it was just MMY on the doorstep. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY on 8/1/06 8:33 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > in participants lives > whereupon Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sagely opined: > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing >to go.) > > Sal > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". Uns. He’s calling in to the dome everyday, and people are asking him questions. As far as I know, the questions aren’t screened. Anyone with the guts to do so could ask him such a question. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Either that or focused on his own health problems. Sal On Aug 1, 2006, at 1:09 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I doubt he really cares much one way or another, and seeing as how most here wouldn't go in any case, it's pretty much of a moot point, which was what I was trying to say. Sal I just don't think he would be candid in a public forum. So focused on the 'big' picture that there are no new meditators or new siddha's (to speak of) anymore.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I doubt he really cares much one way or another, and seeing as how most > here wouldn't go in any case, it's pretty much of a moot point, which > was what I was trying to say. > > Sal I just don't think he would be candid in a public forum. So focused on the 'big' picture that there are no new meditators or new siddha's (to speak of) anymore. JohnY > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:29 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > >> > >> But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how > >> someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that > >> they'd > >> be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >> to go.) > >> > >> Sal > >> > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > > bother to ask? > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
I doubt he really cares much one way or another, and seeing as how most here wouldn't go in any case, it's pretty much of a moot point, which was what I was trying to say. Sal On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:29 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing to go.) Sal How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even bother to ask?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how > > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd > > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > > to go.) > > > > Sal > > > > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even > bother to ask? Seeing that the future of the world depends upon it, one would think and hope that he would be open to considering scenarios in which the numbers flying could double over-night. > > JohnY > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days > > > ask the question > > > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom > > > teachings in > > > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded > seekers > > > excluded from the > > > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- > > > siddhas in Fairfield > > > not in the dome. > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. And seeing as how > someone else just got thrown out for that, how likely is it that they'd > be open to the rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > to go.) > > Sal > How likely is it that Maharishi would be open about it? Why even bother to ask? JohnY > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the dome these days > > ask the question > > about a foundation in TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom > > teachings in > > participants lives. Ask MMY if he wants these avid broadminded seekers > > excluded from the > > courses or included to bring up the numbers. There are still 1,000+- > > siddhas in Fairfield > > not in the dome. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
Are you saying MMY ought to get out more? I once heard a tale of him turning up unexpectedly in a black cab at one of the movement properties in the middle of the English countryside, apparently it really threw everyone. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > > in participants lives > > > whereupon Sal Sunshine sagely opined: > > > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. > >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out > >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the > >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing > >to go.) > > > > Sal > > > > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by > numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an > impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". > Uns. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Ask MMY
> On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:14 AM, blissbunn1 wrote: > > > How about one of you eloquent writers who are in the > > dome these days ask the question about a foundation in > > TM TM Siddhis and the inclusion of other wisdom teachings > > in participants lives > whereupon Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sagely opined: > > But most sidhas here are or were doing other stuff. >And seeing as how someone else just got thrown out >for that, how likely is it that they'd be open to the >rest of us? (Not that there'd even be that many willing >to go.) > > Sal > And, of course, in practice, how? Maharishi is surrounded by numerous annuluses of poor quality worker bees who provide an impenetratable barrier, and keep him "in splendid isolation". Uns. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
