[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-18 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 02/17/2013 10:50 AM, authfriend wrote: (snip) You meant something more like He's religious about brushing his teeth. ;-) Have you been to a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-18 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 02/17/2013 10:50 AM, authfriend wrote: (snip) You meant something more

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-18 Thread Richard J. Williams
authfriend: One point, though. Even if one thinks the mantras invoke deities, even if one feels devotion to those deities, when one transcends the mantra, one also transcends devotion. Every single time you invoke the TM bija mantra you are in a state of devotion - devotion to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-18 Thread Richard J. Williams
... I simply wanted to make the point that TM is not taught as a devotional practice... Xenophaneros Anartaxius: While within the TMO itself, there is a lot of devotion... It would be interesting to delineate the tantric practices that are common to the TMO and Indian Tantra:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-18 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-18 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/18/2013 02:22 PM, Ann wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: This IS a gem, navashok, thanks for posting.  Also replying to a few of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip Regarding meditation, my late tantra guru always said if you don't feel like meditating then don't because nothing will be gained from the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread Michael Jackson
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 8:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: Regarding meditation, my late tantra guru always said if you don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread authfriend
comments are a function of his lack of command of English, so they're irrelevant as well. From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 8:47 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras --- In FairfieldLife

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip Regarding meditation, my late tantra guru always said if you don't feel like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/17/2013 08:13 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: snip Regarding meditation, my late tantra guru

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 02/17/2013 08:13 AM, authfriend wrote: snip You see, the point has to do with Bhairitu's phrase treated as, meaning what TMers are taught--at least in my experience--which is a matter of fact, not opinion. FWIW, we

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread Bhairitu
On 02/17/2013 10:50 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 02/17/2013 08:13 AM, authfriend wrote: snip You see, the point has to do with Bhairitu's phrase treated as, meaning what TMers are taught--at least in my experience--which is a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: On 02/17/2013 10:50 AM, authfriend wrote: (snip) You meant something more like He's religious about brushing his teeth. ;-) Have you been to a dentist lately? I swear they now train the techs as if brushing and flossing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: ... I simply wanted to make the point that TM is not taught as a devotional practice... I think this is correct. While within the TMO itself, there is a lot of devotion, and was (to MMY when he was living), exactly what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread authfriend
This is all well put, Xeno, I agree with you entirely. One point, though. Even if one thinks the mantras invoke deities, even if one feels devotion to those deities, when one transcends the mantra, one also transcends devotion. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: This is all well put, Xeno, I agree with you entirely. One point, though. Even if one thinks the mantras invoke deities, even if one feels devotion to those deities, when one transcends the mantra, one also transcends

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-17 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: On 02/17/2013 10:50 AM, authfriend wrote: (snip) You meant something more like He's religious about brushing his teeth. ;-) Have you been to a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote: When tired of meditation do japa. When tired of japa do meditation. Kularnava Tantra When you realize that neither meditation nor japa is ever going to get you anywhere other than where you already are right here, right

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: When tired of meditation do japa. When tired of japa do meditation. Kularnava Tantra When you realize that neither meditation nor japa is ever going

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: This IS a gem, navashok, thanks for posting.  Also replying to a few of your other recent posts: Yep. I am not an expert on Tantras like Bhairithu or Uncle Tantra, I got these two books in my shelf 'Gems of Tantras'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: This IS a gem, navashok, thanks for posting.  Also replying to a few of your other recent posts: Yep. I am not an expert on Tantras like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
When tired of meditation do japa. When tired of japa do meditation. Kularnava Tantra turquoiseb: When you realize that neither meditation nor japa is ever going to get you anywhere other than where you already are right here, right now, do life. - Uncle Tantra So, why not just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
navashok: When tired of meditation do japa. When tired of japa do meditation. Kularnava Tantra The Tantras are not Vedic and the tantric masters are not Vedic. The TM bija mantras are not Vedic because if they were we would not be doing them. Non-Brahmin, non-Indian and non-Sannyasins

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread Share Long
. From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:42 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: This IS a gem, navashok, thanks for posting.  Also replying

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread seventhray27
Of no importance, but at the very end you see that the video was sponsored by the Ambani Brothers of Reliance Industries. You won't find a lot of infinite love between those brothers. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:brbr Navashok, thank you so much for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread Share Long
, February 16, 2013 2:56 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras   Of no importance, but at the very end you see that the video was sponsored by the Ambani Brothers of Reliance Industries.  You won't find a lot of infinite love between those brothers. In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread Bhairitu
Mira Nair is a western trained filmmaker and why her movies are so much more than many Bollywood films. Gurinder Chadha (Bend It like Beckham is from the UK. Here films more reflect the clashes between western and eastern cultures. Bhaji on the Beach is particularly so and also a comment on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread seventhray27
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: Hi Steve, I was referring to a heart shaped image. I thought it was very wonderful. Who are the Ambani Bros? Billionaire brothers from India. Replying to some other posts It was my Mom who got me into musicals: Gigi and South

[FairfieldLife] Re: Gems from the Tantras

2013-02-16 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: snip Regarding meditation, my late tantra guru always said if you don't feel like meditating then don't because nothing will be gained from the meditation. In TM it was treated more devotional and skipping frowned on. FWIW,