[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> thank you, dear merudanda, I hope you can stay with us for a while. PS I 
> think what we really need is a nice jyotish analysis of charts of Edward and 
> The Woman He Loved. Don't you?

Yes, yes. This is just the ticket. It will appeal to everyone here. It may even 
fill the void that I recognize as boredom and ennui on my part. A chart, a 
chart, we all want a jyotish chart of Edward and his wife. Why didn't I think 
of that?

Do you think you could organize a visit to FF by that Russian 'Amateur' woman? 
It looks like she could liven the place up and perhaps give the others in their 
granny dresses, Birkenstocks and unshaven pits a few tips on beauty and 
fashion. After all, who doesn't need an albino python wrapped around their neck 
as the ultimate fashion accessory? Couldn't you just picture the new you 
looking like she does in her bikini? You'll have to definitely give up those 
forbidden pleasures of the cookie sneaking kind though.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: merudanda 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:17 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > ah ha! Now that tidbit about the Duke of Windsor aspiring to becoming 
> > Regent, I had not heard before. Of course all my info about these matters 
> > came from two movies: The Queen and The King's Speech (-:
> Books,fiction,movies & documentaries about Edward VIII & Wallis Simpson
> http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/England/Windsor/EdwardVIII.html 
> at your service,Princess
> 
> > I think the Duke was also deemed a little too friendly with the Germans at 
> > one point.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ____________
> >  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 5:14 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > > >
> > snip
> >  They lived mainly in France
> > > but returned to England several times; the queen visited
> > > the couple in France; and they are buried in a royal
> > > cemetery in England.
> > 
> > They are buried at the Royal Burial Ground Frogmore cemetery at Windsor 
> > Castle in England.
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30QY5tKIII 
> >  Royal relations with the duke would
> > > not have been warm and fuzzy for many significant reasons.
> > snip
> > Among other:
> > According to correspondence unearthed in a Californian 
> >   library(!), the former King Edward VIII considered the idea of returning 
> > to 
> >   Britain to become Regent, pushing aside his niece â€" now the Queen.
> > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/6624594/Revealed-the-Duke-and-Duchess-of-Windsors-secret-plot-to-deny-the-Queen-the-throne.html
> >  
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/results?q=King+Edward+VIII&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&gws_rd=cr&um=1&ie=UTF-8&gl=AT&sa=N&tab=w1
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXamWEGhBgA 
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Share Long]

thank you, dear merudanda, I hope you can stay with us for a while. PS I think 
what we really need is a nice jyotish analysis of charts of Edward and The 
Woman He Loved. Don't you?





 From: merudanda 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 3:17 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
 


  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> ah ha! Now that tidbit about the Duke of Windsor aspiring to becoming Regent, 
> I had not heard before. Of course all my info about these matters came from 
> two movies: The Queen and The King's Speech (-:
Books,fiction,movies & documentaries about Edward VIII & Wallis Simpson
http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/England/Windsor/EdwardVIII.html 
at your service,Princess

> I think the Duke was also deemed a little too friendly with the Germans at 
> one point.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 5:14 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > >
> snip
>  They lived mainly in France
> > but returned to England several times; the queen visited
> > the couple in France; and they are buried in a royal
> > cemetery in England.
> 
> They are buried at the Royal Burial Ground Frogmore cemetery at Windsor 
> Castle in England.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30QY5tKIII 
>  Royal relations with the duke would
> > not have been warm and fuzzy for many significant reasons.
> snip
> Among other:
> According to correspondence unearthed in a Californian 
>   library(!), the former King Edward VIII considered the idea of returning to 
>   Britain to become Regent, pushing aside his niece â€" now the Queen.
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/6624594/Revealed-the-Duke-and-Duchess-of-Windsors-secret-plot-to-deny-the-Queen-the-throne.html
>  
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/results?q=King+Edward+VIII&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&gws_rd=cr&um=1&ie=UTF-8&gl=AT&sa=N&tab=w1
>  
> 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXamWEGhBgA 
>

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[merudanda]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> ah ha! Now that tidbit about the Duke of Windsor aspiring to becoming
Regent, I had not heard before. Of course all my info about these
matters came from two movies: The Queen and The King's Speech (-:
Books,fiction,movies & documentaries about Edward VIII & Wallis Simpson
http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/England/Windsor/EdwardVIII.html
<http://www.royalty.nu/Europe/England/Windsor/EdwardVIII.html>
at your service,Princess

> I think the Duke was also deemed a little too friendly with the
Germans at one point.
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: merudanda no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 5:14 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
>
>
>
> Â
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > >
> snip
> Â They lived mainly in France
> > but returned to England several times; the queen visited
> > the couple in France; and they are buried in a royal
> > cemetery in England.
>
> They are buried at the Royal Burial Ground Frogmore cemetery at
Windsor Castle in England.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30QY5tKIIIÂ
> Â Royal relations with the duke would
> > not have been warm and fuzzy for many significant reasons.
> snip
> Among other:
> According to correspondence unearthed in a Californian
>   library(!), the former King Edward VIII considered the idea of
returning to
>   Britain to become Regent, pushing aside his niece â€" now the
Queen.
>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/6624594/Revealed-t\
he-Duke-and-Duchess-of-Windsors-secret-plot-to-deny-the-Queen-the-throne\
.html
>
>
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=King+Edward+VIII&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozi\
lla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&gws_rd=cr&um=1&ie=UTF-8&\
gl=AT&sa=N&tab=w1
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXamWEGhBgAÂ
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Yikes! dear turq, please don't go over to the dark side,
> bonding with Judy who said about royal baby:

(Isn't it interesting how Share sometimes forgets to
use the definite article, as if English weren't her
native language?)

[quoting me out of context (and without quote marks)]
> I'm not concerned about his horoscope.

Sorry, Share, but Barry's been on the Dark Side with
me all along. He'll go to his grave, however, thinking
that because I criticize wannabe skeptics for not
getting what astrology is about and how it's done,
therefore I must be a believer. His intellect is too
limited and his arrogance too extreme to understand how
that might not be the case.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> I am not sure what the fascination with Downton Abbey is either, which 
> according to one friend is a re-hash of Upstairs, Downstairs. I have watched 
> a couple episodes of Downton and while I like some of the actors, there are 
> too many of them for me to keep up with, you know, what with me having 
> cognitive overload from too much TM years ago, or maybe its those damnable 
> aliens who are messing with my head when they are not making crop circles.

I can only speak for myself (is that an obvious statement?) but I love that 
series for a few reasons. The first is the sumptuousness of the sets and the 
locations. The costuming is beautiful and the actors are well cast and the 
acting itself is adequate at least and excellent at best (Dame Maggie Smith for 
example). I love historical books and film. It is a tad on the soap opera-y 
side but this is fine because my indulgences as far as TV watching goes is 
extremely minimal so I'm going to forgive myself this one. I also adore the 
English countryside and here it is filmed in all its glory and I also love to 
see old cars, old furniture, old interiors of buildings and this series has all 
of this in spades. 

As far as a rehash of "Upstairs Downstairs" I loved that as well, at least the 
original couple of seasons. That was much simpler in set and design but it had 
all of the human stories/elements and wonderful period flavor. I don't think 
people need get their knickers in a twist because both of these series are 
about class and class distinctions, or does it mean that by liking "Downton" it 
makes one a lover of the rich and the elite or that it means one supports the 
aristocracy over the common man. But then maybe no one thinks this anyway and I 
am just extrapolating. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:41 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > C'mon Sal, ease up man, you are crushing all of our Downton Abbey 
> > > > fantasies about what proper Brits are like.
> > > 
> > > Sorry dude, I'll send my butler round in the Bentley with a glass 
> > > of port to sooth your shattered illusions.
> > > 
> > > On a philosophical note, the popularity of shows like Downton and
> > > the continued popularity of costume dramas in general really
> > > fascinates me. What is it people like about them, is it the
> > > sense of a social structure to belong to or a fantasy about being
> > > lord of the manor? Or is it about living in a racially pure country
> > > again?
> > > 
> > > People don't really think it was better in those days do they?
> > > The aristocracy made up about 1% of the country, life sucked for
> > > everyone else. Fascinating we should have a sense of nostalgia
> > > about it. 
> > 
> > I love history, I love Europe and I love England. You are a very fortunate 
> > man to live there. I lived there once too and I would love to again. Even 
> > the monarchy and its trappings are fascinating and beautiful and just 
> > looking at the carriages, the harness, the uniforms of all of the different 
> > people who attend on ceremony and who maintain the historical places is 
> > enriching to me. So much of what these people wear or look after or create 
> > are works of art. The fabrics, the craftmanship, the intricacy of all of 
> > the levels of staging and creating these old rituals of coronation or royal 
> > weddings. We would be poorer for not having access to seeing these things. 
> > There is a living history aspect to this. Who hand makes things anymore? 
> > Who takes the time to lovingly polish and arrange things? There is a kind 
> > of devotion to the attending of detail and the nurturing of a kind of 
> > refinement when you painstakingly re-enact or embrace centuries old 
> > tradition. Just
>  come and live in California or Nevada for twenty years and see how it 
> compares. Not that there isn't culture and natural beauty in California (and 
> Nevada is another story all together) but for me I love stone and brick and 
> soil that is drenched in history and humanity and has a richness that can be 
> viscerally fel

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> ah ha! Now that tidbit about the Duke of Windsor aspiring to becoming
Regent, I had not heard before. Of course all my info about these
matters came from two movies: The Queen and The King's Speech (-:
I doubt that will surprise anyone, Share.
> I think the Duke was also deemed a little too friendly with the
Germans at one point.
You might say that, yes.
  [Meeting a monster: The Windsors' ill-advised trip to Berlin in October
1937 to see Hitler can hardly have helped family relations]

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

Why, merudanda, you failed to quote Share's false
accusation against Queen Elizabeth that I was
responding to:

> Thus the Duke and Duchess of Windsor were never
> allowed back in the country.

I'm sure Share will appreciate your allowing her to
avoid acknowledging her error. She hates to have to
admit she was wrong.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > >
> snip
>   They lived mainly in France
> > but returned to England several times; the queen visited
> > the couple in France; and they are buried in a royal
> > cemetery in England.
> 
> They are buried at the Royal Burial Ground Frogmore cemetery at Windsor
> Castle in England.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30QY5tKIII
> 
>   Royal relations with the duke would
> > not have been warm and fuzzy for many significant reasons.
> snip
> Among other:
> According to correspondence unearthed in a Californianlibrary(!),
> the former King Edward VIII considered the idea of returning to   
> Britain to become Regent, pushing aside his niece – now the Queen.
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/6624594/Revealed-t\
> he-Duke-and-Duchess-of-Windsors-secret-plot-to-deny-the-Queen-the-throne\
> .html
>  the-Duke-and-Duchess-of-Windsors-secret-plot-to-deny-the-Queen-the-thron\
> e.html>
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/results?q=King+Edward+VIII&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozi\
> lla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&gws_rd=cr&um=1&ie=UTF-8&\
> gl=AT&sa=N&tab=w1
>  illa:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&gws_rd=cr&um=1&ie=UTF-8\
> &gl=AT&sa=N&tab=w1>
> 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXamWEGhBgA
> 
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

I love watching ignorant, arrogant wannabe skeptics
doing fierce battle with an army of straw men of 
their own creation.

Salyavin doesn't understand the nuts and bolts of
astrology. Barry doesn't understand what astrology
is for.

They can't effectively challenge what they don't
understand. And they're too arrogant ever to allow
themselves to be schooled by skeptics like me who
know what we're talking about.

They'll just continue to hack away at their straw 
men, doing no damage to astrology and making fools
of themselves.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> > > You are much MUCH *MUCH* more ignorant about astrology
> > > than I had thought.
> >
> > LOL. Do enlighten us then.
> 
> Let's not, and say we did.
> 
> Why do I get the feeling that it would sound a
> lot like someone expounding upon their "knowledge"
> of phrenology?
> 
> I mean, a person could talk all day about all
> that they have learned about how feeling the bumps
> on a person's head enables them to discern his or
> her future, and cite all of the Phrenology Masters
> they had studied with, but none of that makes
> phrenology itself any less bogus.
> 
> Astrology and Jyotish are exactly the same. Those
> who have foolishly devoted large periods of time
> and energy to "learning about them" want to "defend"
> that expenditure of time and energy, as if it were
> worth it, and as if it made them "better" than those
> who spent their time on more useful pursuits.
> 
> The day that an astrologer of any stripe can look
> at a pile of "charts" for babies born in the same city
> on the same day at about the same time -- NONE
> of them marked with either name or sex or any
> identifying information -- and pick out which of
> them is the chart of the new royal heir, all with-
> out having seen the real chart to compare with,
> *then* you can talk about your "knowledge" of
> astrology.
> 
> The day you can predict something -- anything --
> accurately (and according to rigorous scientific
> methods) using astrology, *then* you can talk about
> the supposed "superiority" of having spent your
> time studying a pseudoscience.
> 
> But we'll probably laugh at you then, too, because
> after all you're expressing a belief in something
> essentially stupid. People are *allowed* to laugh
> at such things. You just don't *like* that they are.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Michael Jackson]

I am not sure what the fascination with Downton Abbey is either, which 
according to one friend is a re-hash of Upstairs, Downstairs. I have watched a 
couple episodes of Downton and while I like some of the actors, there are too 
many of them for me to keep up with, you know, what with me having cognitive 
overload from too much TM years ago, or maybe its those damnable aliens who are 
messing with my head when they are not making crop circles.





 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 9:41 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > C'mon Sal, ease up man, you are crushing all of our Downton Abbey 
> > > fantasies about what proper Brits are like.
> > 
> > Sorry dude, I'll send my butler round in the Bentley with a glass 
> > of port to sooth your shattered illusions.
> > 
> > On a philosophical note, the popularity of shows like Downton and
> > the continued popularity of costume dramas in general really
> > fascinates me. What is it people like about them, is it the
> > sense of a social structure to belong to or a fantasy about being
> > lord of the manor? Or is it about living in a racially pure country
> > again?
> > 
> > People don't really think it was better in those days do they?
> > The aristocracy made up about 1% of the country, life sucked for
> > everyone else. Fascinating we should have a sense of nostalgia
> > about it. 
> 
> I love history, I love Europe and I love England. You are a very fortunate 
> man to live there. I lived there once too and I would love to again. Even the 
> monarchy and its trappings are fascinating and beautiful and just looking at 
> the carriages, the harness, the uniforms of all of the different people who 
> attend on ceremony and who maintain the historical places is enriching to me. 
> So much of what these people wear or look after or create are works of art. 
> The fabrics, the craftmanship, the intricacy of all of the levels of staging 
> and creating these old rituals of coronation or royal weddings. We would be 
> poorer for not having access to seeing these things. There is a living 
> history aspect to this. Who hand makes things anymore? Who takes the time to 
> lovingly polish and arrange things? There is a kind of devotion to the 
> attending of detail and the nurturing of a kind of refinement when you 
> painstakingly re-enact or embrace centuries old tradition. Just
 come and live in California or Nevada for twenty years and see how it 
compares. Not that there isn't culture and natural beauty in California (and 
Nevada is another story all together) but for me I love stone and brick and 
soil that is drenched in history and humanity and has a richness that can be 
viscerally felt. England, for me, has all of this and more. It doesn't 
necessarily have to be Windsor Castle - Spitalfields was equally as fantastic. 

A heartfelt and eloquent piece Ann. I just spent half an hour typing
a response but pressed the wrong key and lost it. Sigh. But it worries me you 
think I might not be interested in history because I'm not a royalist. Perhaps 
I just see a different England with a grander sweep of history from the ice age 
to the Roman invasion, Danelaw and beyond. 

To sum up what I deleted: what gets me is I'm expected to bow to an asshole 
like prince Edward simply because a distant ancestor of his chopped off a few 
heads and invaded France. I think their time has passed, other than as a 
tourist attraction for people from countries with no history of their own - 
other than the slaughter of the natives
with smallpox infected blankets of course, which must be hard to get nostalgic 
about.

So yup, English history is amazing but the kings and queens take 
up just a tiny part of it, there was much more interesting things going on, 
even at the time. The peasants revolt for instance. The attempts by the diggers 
and the levellers to get back the land stolen from us by our "betters", the 
unfair taxes etc. The fight against the church and state has been endless. The 
empire, the decline, the neo-colonial project in the middle east. History 
evolves and the greed 
and corruption often gets forgotten, the House of Windsor seem past their sell 
by date to me. A most curious anachronism.


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
 AQUARIUS:  Aquarius gets to the pearly gates, sees that
heaven isn't run by  consensus, and opts for hell, where 
at least there is an appealing  anarchy and rules are made 
to be broken. Ironically, Aquarian near-death  experiences 
tend to be extremely traditional, i.e., God the Father, St.
Peter , the celestial choir and so on (another reason to
rebel and opt  for hell). Once in the underworld, they bedevil
the hell out of Satan  and his cronies with their loud
and vigorous campaigns for progressive  reforms, and are 
quickly expelled back to the body.


Yup, sounds just like me. Told you there was something to all
thios astrology lark

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > C'mon Sal, ease up man, you are crushing all of our Downton Abbey 
> > > fantasies about what proper Brits are like.
> > 
> > Sorry dude, I'll send my butler round in the Bentley with a glass 
> > of port to sooth your shattered illusions.
> > 
> > On a philosophical note, the popularity of shows like Downton and
> > the continued popularity of costume dramas in general really
> > fascinates me. What is it people like about them, is it the
> > sense of a social structure to belong to or a fantasy about being
> > lord of the manor? Or is it about living in a racially pure country
> > again?
> > 
> > People don't really think it was better in those days do they?
> > The aristocracy made up about 1% of the country, life sucked for
> > everyone else. Fascinating we should have a sense of nostalgia
> > about it. 
> 
> I love history, I love Europe and I love England. You are a very fortunate 
> man to live there. I lived there once too and I would love to again. Even the 
> monarchy and its trappings are fascinating and beautiful and just looking at 
> the carriages, the harness, the uniforms of all of the different people who 
> attend on ceremony and who maintain the historical places is enriching to me. 
> So much of what these people wear or look after or create are works of art. 
> The fabrics, the craftmanship, the intricacy of all of the levels of staging 
> and creating these old rituals of coronation or royal weddings. We would be 
> poorer for not having access to seeing these things. There is a living 
> history aspect to this. Who hand makes things anymore? Who takes the time to 
> lovingly polish and arrange things? There is a kind of devotion to the 
> attending of detail and the nurturing of a kind of refinement when you 
> painstakingly re-enact or embrace centuries old tradition. Just come and live 
> in California or Nevada for twenty years and see how it compares. Not that 
> there isn't culture and natural beauty in California (and Nevada is another 
> story all together) but for me I love stone and brick and soil that is 
> drenched in history and humanity and has a richness that can be viscerally 
> felt. England, for me, has all of this and more. It doesn't necessarily have 
> to be Windsor Castle - Spitalfields was equally as fantastic.   

A heartfelt and eloquent piece Ann. I just spent half an hour typing
a response but pressed the wrong key and lost it. Sigh. But it worries me you 
think I might not be interested in history because I'm not a royalist. Perhaps 
I just see a different England with a grander sweep of history from the ice age 
to the Roman invasion, Danelaw and beyond. 

To sum up what I deleted: what gets me is I'm expected to bow to an asshole 
like prince Edward simply because a distant ancestor of his chopped off a few 
heads and invaded France. I think their time has passed, other than as a 
tourist attraction for people from countries with no history of their own - 
other than the slaughter of the natives
with smallpox infected blankets of course, which must be hard to get nostalgic 
about.

So yup, English history is amazing but the kings and queens take 
up just a tiny part of it, there was much more interesting things going on, 
even at the time. The peasants revolt for instance. The attempts by the diggers 
and the levellers to get back the land stolen from us by our "betters", the 
unfair taxes etc. The fight against the church and state has been endless. The 
empire, the decline, the neo-colonial project in the middle east. History 
evolves and the greed 
and corruption often gets forgotten, the House of Windsor seem past their sell 
by date to me. A most curious anachronism.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> Yikes! dear turq, please don't go over to the dark side, bonding with
Judy who said about royal baby: Â
> I'm not concerned about his horoscope.
Newsflash: Barry is already over on the "dark side" but I don't think
Judy's present. Have you noticed the lack of light where you are lately?





>
>
>
> 
>  From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:25 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
>
>
>
> Â
> > > You are much MUCH *MUCH* more ignorant about astrology
> > > than I had thought.
> >
> > LOL. Do enlighten us then.
>
> Let's not, and say we did.
>
> Why do I get the feeling that it would sound a
> lot like someone expounding upon their "knowledge"
> of phrenology?
>
> I mean, a person could talk all day about all
> that they have learned about how feeling the bumps
> on a person's head enables them to discern his or
> her future, and cite all of the Phrenology Masters
> they had studied with, but none of that makes
> phrenology itself any less bogus.
>
> Astrology and Jyotish are exactly the same. Those
> who have foolishly devoted large periods of time
> and energy to "learning about them" want to "defend"
> that expenditure of time and energy, as if it were
> worth it, and as if it made them "better" than those
> who spent their time on more useful pursuits.
>
> The day that an astrologer of any stripe can look
> at a pile of "charts" for babies born in the same city
> on the same day at about the same time -- NONE
> of them marked with either name or sex or any
> identifying information -- and pick out which of
> them is the chart of the new royal heir, all with-
> out having seen the real chart to compare with,
> *then* you can talk about your "knowledge" of
> astrology.
>
> The day you can predict something -- anything --
> accurately (and according to rigorous scientific
> methods) using astrology, *then* you can talk about
> the supposed "superiority" of having spent your
> time studying a pseudoscience.
>
> But we'll probably laugh at you then, too, because
> after all you're expressing a belief in something
> essentially stupid. People are *allowed* to laugh
> at such things. You just don't *like* that they are.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> IMHO, these guys are ALMOST as cute as Minions (-:

Well, as you know Share, cuteness is everything.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Ann 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 11:38 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > I think getting drunk with Queen Elizabeth would be AWESOME! Especially if 
> > she let me try on some of her hats, and ride as a footman on the back of 
> > the royal carriage.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The one
>  thing I do like about any monarchy, is that when it is working well, as in 
> the sandinavian countries, it sets a good example, of service by the rich and 
> powerful, beyond them just making big bucks, and flaunting it.
> > > > 
> > > > When my dad was a diplomat, he did it on a government salary, but 99% 
> > > > of his fellow Foreign Service Officers were independently wealthy. 
> > > > Nonetheless, they saw it as their obligation to both serve in WWII, and 
> > > > for their country, afterwards.
> > > > 
> > > > A king or queen isn't the solution here in the US, but we have to do 
> > > > better than "The Kardashians". :-)
> > > 
> > > Well, after all, our royalty are from Hollywood and those who are more 
> > > commonly known as "movie stars".  Some are even considered "royal" who 
> > > appear on reality shows. Can you think of a more vacuous and inane type 
> > > than that? I think I'd rather spend an evening talking about architecture 
> > > and sustainable
>  farming with Prince Charles or, better still, having a gallop in Windsor 
> Park with Princess Anne.
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why 
> > > > > anyone 
> > > > > gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of 
> > > > > fashion 
> > > > > to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens 
> > > > > was 
> > > > > not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with 
> > > > > someone 
> > > > > from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the 
> > > > > guys 
> > > > > made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with 
> > > > > cold 
> > > > > silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> > > > > the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really
>  take this 
> > > > > shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> > > > > seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> > > > > fiction to the rest of us.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > > > > > Share,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is 
> > > > > > a Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 
> > > > > > 10th house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus 
> > > > > > is placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will 
> > > > > > bring good luck in his work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since 
> > > > > > the Sun,
>  representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain much 
> political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > > > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, 
> > > > > > she may have two more male children.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > > > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JR
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > > >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like 
> > > > > >> his father did.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
>  >>
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >>   From: authfriend 
> > > > > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > > > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Â
> > > > > >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > > > >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda  wrote:
>
> > Royal relations with the duke [of Windsor] would
> > not have been warm and fuzzy for many significant reasons.
> snip
> Among other:
> According to correspondence unearthed in a Californian
> library(!), the former King Edward VIII considered the
> idea of returning to Britain to become Regent, pushing
> aside his niece – now the Queen.
>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/6624594/Revealed-t\
he-Duke-and-Duchess-of-Windsors-secret-plot-to-deny-the-Queen-the-throne\
.html

Since we're interpreting All Things Royal in
terms of astrology lately, this sounds like
the former king was suffering from a classic
case of uranus affliction.

Presumably a little Preparation H cured it.

:-)

How The 12 Signs Deal With Near Death Experiences

  [Aries] ARIES:  "Who's in charge here? I'd like to see God right now,
please. Am I  dead? Gee, I never thought that could happen to me! Where
can I get a  crystal palace backlit with white light like that one?"
[Taurus] TAURUS:  Leaving the body, Taurus realizes that he or she no
longer has a  stomach and immediately returns to the body (thud!),
without seeing  tunnels, light, God, etc., making Taurus skeptical for
the rest of his  or her life. [Gemini] GEMINI:  The key
thing to the zodiacal twins isn't the experience itself, but  how they
can embellish it when telling the story (or writing about it).  Since
Geminis are comfortable in all worlds, except those without  telephones,
they usually bounce back to the body fairly rapidly - and  the mouth
tends to work before the rest of the body comes back to life.
[Cancer] CANCER:  Cancerians can live to be 125 years old, and they
don't usually have  near death experiences, but they can come awfully
close to having a near  life experience when they get brave and venture
out of their house for  "supplies." [Leo] LEO: 
"Nooo, I am NOT dead. I am not, I am not, I am not... Who are those 
guys in the white robes? What's that they're singing...? They're off 
key. I can sing better than that! Where's the choir director? I need a 
microphone immediately. Unless it's Rolling Stone or Spin, hold my 
calls." [Virgo] VIRGO:  Working a marathon 60 hours
straight, Virgo collapses and leaves the  body. She moves through that
delightfully clean and sparkling tunnel of  light, occasionally
reflecting upon possible improvements...but soon  becomes so worried by
the thought of her loved ones "managing" without  her that she snaps
back into the body like white lightning, sits up, and  calmly pronounces
herself alive, glancing at her watch. [Libra] LIBRA: 
Floating out of the body, then in, then out, then in, and finally out 
again... Libra sees a tunnel and a vibrant being of light at the other 
end. "Wow, is that Jesus? Wait a minute, maybe it's Kwan Yin. That looks
like something she'd wear." Never deciding whether to go through the 
tunnel (after all, what's death without someone to share it with?) Libra
ends up back in the body by default, hounded by a mysterious compulsion 
to start a dating service for discarnate souls.
[Scorpio] SCORPIO:  Since most Scorpio's have nine lives, they tend to
brainstorm different  ways to trigger the near death experience. Once
nearly dead, most can  barely get to the end of the tunnel without
meeting some being with whom  they have astral sex. When asked whom they
prefer to greet them on the  other side, 75% name a favorite vampire,
and Medusa is a strong  contender. [Sagittarius]
SAGITTARIUS:  Sagittarius floats out of her body and has to laugh at the
stupid way  she bought the farm. After somehow BREAKING the tunnel of
light, she  absolutely refuses to return to the body, since she's been
trying to get  out of it for all these years (via clumsy accidents).
Because  Sagittarius is immensely curious about whether the so-called
organized  religious have any validity at all, this stroke of luck leads
to some  amaazing lessons, until, alas, the astral folks tire of her
and  trick her into returning to Earth for the duration.
[Capricorn] CAPRICORN:  It might take Capricorn a little while to
realize he is dead because  there are special rooms set up to look like
executive offices for  newly-dead Goats. A sharp-looking, older
gentleman-ghost comes in and  gives Cap an instruction manual titled How
To Profit In The Astral  Marketplace, plus a "job evaluation" type
assessment of Capricorn's  achievements and mistakes over the lifetime,
followed by a pink slip  (meaning the body revived). Capricorns tend to
return to their bodies  quickly, unable to tolerate non-physical
existence for long. [Aquarius] AQUARIUS:  Aquarius gets
to the pearly gates, sees that heaven isn't run by  consensus, and opts
for hell, where at least there is an appealing  anarchy and rules are
made to be broken. Ironically, Aquarian near-d

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Share Long]

Yikes! dear turq, please don't go over to the dark side, bonding with Judy who 
said about royal baby:  
I'm not concerned about his horoscope.




 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 1:25 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
 


  
> > You are much MUCH *MUCH* more ignorant about astrology
> > than I had thought.
> 
> LOL. Do enlighten us then.

Let's not, and say we did. 

Why do I get the feeling that it would sound a 
lot like someone expounding upon their "knowledge"
of phrenology? 

I mean, a person could talk all day about all 
that they have learned about how feeling the bumps 
on a person's head enables them to discern his or
her future, and cite all of the Phrenology Masters
they had studied with, but none of that makes 
phrenology itself any less bogus. 

Astrology and Jyotish are exactly the same. Those
who have foolishly devoted large periods of time
and energy to "learning about them" want to "defend" 
that expenditure of time and energy, as if it were
worth it, and as if it made them "better" than those 
who spent their time on more useful pursuits.

The day that an astrologer of any stripe can look
at a pile of "charts" for babies born in the same city 
on the same day at about the same time -- NONE 
of them marked with either name or sex or any 
identifying information -- and pick out which of 
them is the chart of the new royal heir, all with-
out having seen the real chart to compare with, 
*then* you can talk about your "knowledge" of 
astrology. 

The day you can predict something -- anything -- 
accurately (and according to rigorous scientific 
methods) using astrology, *then* you can talk about
the supposed "superiority" of having spent your
time studying a pseudoscience. 

But we'll probably laugh at you then, too, because
after all you're expressing a belief in something
essentially stupid. People are *allowed* to laugh 
at such things. You just don't *like* that they are.





 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Share Long]

IMHO, these guys are ALMOST as cute as Minions (-:





 From: Ann 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 11:38 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
 


  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I think getting drunk with Queen Elizabeth would be AWESOME! Especially if 
> she let me try on some of her hats, and ride as a footman on the back of the 
> royal carriage.












> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > The one
 thing I do like about any monarchy, is that when it is working well, as in the 
sandinavian countries, it sets a good example, of service by the rich and 
powerful, beyond them just making big bucks, and flaunting it.
> > > 
> > > When my dad was a diplomat, he did it on a government salary, but 99% of 
> > > his fellow Foreign Service Officers were independently wealthy. 
> > > Nonetheless, they saw it as their obligation to both serve in WWII, and 
> > > for their country, afterwards.
> > > 
> > > A king or queen isn't the solution here in the US, but we have to do 
> > > better than "The Kardashians". :-)
> > 
> > Well, after all, our royalty are from Hollywood and those who are more 
> > commonly known as "movie stars".  Some are even considered "royal" who 
> > appear on reality shows. Can you think of a more vacuous and inane type 
> > than that? I think I'd rather spend an evening talking about architecture 
> > and sustainable
 farming with Prince Charles or, better still, having a gallop in Windsor Park 
with Princess Anne.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why 
> > > > anyone 
> > > > gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
> > > > to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens 
> > > > was 
> > > > not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
> > > > from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the 
> > > > guys 
> > > > made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
> > > > silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> > > > the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really
 take this 
> > > > shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> > > > seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> > > > fiction to the rest of us.
> > > > 
> > > > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > > > > Share,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > > >
> > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is 
> > > > > placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring 
> > > > > good luck in his work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since 
> > > > > the Sun,
 representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain much 
political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she 
> > > > > may have two more male children.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > > >
> > > > > JR
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like 
> > > > >> his father did.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
 >>
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>   From: authfriend 
> > > > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Â
> > > > >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > > >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Share Long]

ah ha! Now that tidbit about the Duke of Windsor aspiring to becoming Regent, I 
had not heard before. Of course all my info about these matters came from two 
movies: The Queen and The King's Speech (-:
I think the Duke was also deemed a little too friendly with the Germans at one 
point.





 From: merudanda 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 5:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
 


  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
snip
 They lived mainly in France
> but returned to England several times; the queen visited
> the couple in France; and they are buried in a royal
> cemetery in England.

They are buried at the Royal Burial Ground Frogmore cemetery at Windsor Castle 
in England.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30QY5tKIII 
 Royal relations with the duke would
> not have been warm and fuzzy for many significant reasons.
snip
Among other:
According to correspondence unearthed in a Californian 
  library(!), the former King Edward VIII considered the idea of returning to 
  Britain to become Regent, pushing aside his niece – now the Queen.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/6624594/Revealed-the-Duke-and-Duchess-of-Windsors-secret-plot-to-deny-the-Queen-the-throne.html
 

https://www.youtube.com/results?q=King+Edward+VIII&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&gws_rd=cr&um=1&ie=UTF-8&gl=AT&sa=N&tab=w1
 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXamWEGhBgA 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[merudanda]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> >
snip
  They lived mainly in France
> but returned to England several times; the queen visited
> the couple in France; and they are buried in a royal
> cemetery in England.

They are buried at the Royal Burial Ground Frogmore cemetery at Windsor
Castle in England.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v30QY5tKIII

  Royal relations with the duke would
> not have been warm and fuzzy for many significant reasons.
snip
Among other:
According to correspondence unearthed in a Californianlibrary(!),
the former King Edward VIII considered the idea of returning to   
Britain to become Regent, pushing aside his niece – now the Queen.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/6624594/Revealed-t\
he-Duke-and-Duchess-of-Windsors-secret-plot-to-deny-the-Queen-the-throne\
.html


https://www.youtube.com/results?q=King+Edward+VIII&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozi\
lla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&gws_rd=cr&um=1&ie=UTF-8&\
gl=AT&sa=N&tab=w1



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXamWEGhBgA

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[turquoiseb]

> > You are much MUCH *MUCH* more ignorant about astrology
> > than I had thought.
>
> LOL. Do enlighten us then.

Let's not, and say we did.

Why do I get the feeling that it would sound a
lot like someone expounding upon their "knowledge"
of phrenology?

I mean, a person could talk all day about all
that they have learned about how feeling the bumps
on a person's head enables them to discern his or
her future, and cite all of the Phrenology Masters
they had studied with, but none of that makes
phrenology itself any less bogus.

Astrology and Jyotish are exactly the same. Those
who have foolishly devoted large periods of time
and energy to "learning about them" want to "defend"
that expenditure of time and energy, as if it were
worth it, and as if it made them "better" than those
who spent their time on more useful pursuits.

The day that an astrologer of any stripe can look
at a pile of "charts" for babies born in the same city
on the same day at about the same time -- NONE
of them marked with either name or sex or any
identifying information -- and pick out which of
them is the chart of the new royal heir, all with-
out having seen the real chart to compare with,
*then* you can talk about your "knowledge" of
astrology.

The day you can predict something -- anything --
accurately (and according to rigorous scientific
methods) using astrology, *then* you can talk about
the supposed "superiority" of having spent your
time studying a pseudoscience.

But we'll probably laugh at you then, too, because
after all you're expressing a belief in something
essentially stupid. People are *allowed* to laugh
at such things. You just don't *like* that they are.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > C'mon Sal, ease up man, you are crushing all of our Downton Abbey fantasies 
> > about what proper Brits are like.
> 
> Sorry dude, I'll send my butler round in the Bentley with a glass 
> of port to sooth your shattered illusions.
> 
> On a philosophical note, the popularity of shows like Downton and
> the continued popularity of costume dramas in general really
> fascinates me. What is it people like about them, is it the
> sense of a social structure to belong to or a fantasy about being
> lord of the manor? Or is it about living in a racially pure country
> again?
> 
> People don't really think it was better in those days do they?
> The aristocracy made up about 1% of the country, life sucked for
> everyone else. Fascinating we should have a sense of nostalgia
> about it. 

I love history, I love Europe and I love England. You are a very fortunate man 
to live there. I lived there once too and I would love to again. Even the 
monarchy and its trappings are fascinating and beautiful and just looking at 
the carriages, the harness, the uniforms of all of the different people who 
attend on ceremony and who maintain the historical places is enriching to me. 
So much of what these people wear or look after or create are works of art. The 
fabrics, the craftmanship, the intricacy of all of the levels of staging and 
creating these old rituals of coronation or royal weddings. We would be poorer 
for not having access to seeing these things. There is a living history aspect 
to this. Who hand makes things anymore? Who takes the time to lovingly polish 
and arrange things? There is a kind of devotion to the attending of detail and 
the nurturing of a kind of refinement when you painstakingly re-enact or 
embrace centuries old tradition. Just come and live in California or Nevada for 
twenty years and see how it compares. Not that there isn't culture and natural 
beauty in California (and Nevada is another story all together) but for me I 
love stone and brick and soil that is drenched in history and humanity and has 
a richness that can be viscerally felt. England, for me, has all of this and 
more. It doesn't necessarily have to be Windsor Castle - Spitalfields was 
equally as fantastic.   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> >  From: salyavin808 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:31 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > > > > > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > > > > > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > > > > > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > > > > > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > > > > > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, well *do* enlighten us.
> > > 
> > > John just did.
> > 
> > No he didn't. I want to know how, out of 2000 people born on
> > one day, only one has a royal chart. Do the planets shift
> > about so much on our tiny island?
> > 
> > You having trouble reading again? 
> > 
> > Yawn.
> > 
> > Amazing
> > > how you manage to miss entire paragraphs.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> > > > > to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> > > > > virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> > > > > reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> > > > > chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> > > > > such a king is defined as being a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Mike Dixon]

Yeah, but in today's world, by the time he's ready to take the throne, he could 
be a she. Just ask Lou Reed.

 


 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
  
   
 
I heard it is a boy. But I have not seen it with my own eyes. So I do not know 
it is a boy. Last I heard it was a boy. Previous to that I also heard it was a 
boy. By projecting a concept of continuity through time, and the concept there 
being a future in relation to the concept of time, I think that I may have an 
experience wherein I will hear that it is still continuing to be a boy.

   
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> John, thank you but don't go too far out on that limb. Lots
> of folks here in the Funny Farm Lounge with saws in their
> hands. Uh oh, including me. In the other post you said the
> brother of the current queen gave up the throne to marry an
> American divorced woman. Actually he was her uncle. He
> abdicated and her father became king. She blamed her uncle
> for her father's early death. Thus the Duke and Duchess of
> Windsor were never allowed back in the country.

Your last sentence is false. They lived mainly in France
but returned to England several times; the queen visited
the couple in France; and they are buried in a royal
cemetery in England. Royal relations with the duke would
not have been warm and fuzzy for many significant reasons.
Best to read up on them before trying to portray the queen
as out for petty revenge, eh?

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[obbajeeba]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Yeah, really. It is like the humbling words from a Scouse elder who says, 
> "People (Women) used to dress so nice, so elegant. Now a days, they dress 
> like paupers in worn jeans and black lipstick."  
>  I answered, "You mean like the Leave it to Beaver television shows? Just 
> what was marketed to the generation and those who bought and followed from 
> those television shows, those were better times?"  
> The Scouse did not know what to say, so kept shut (humbled haha). 
> Downton Abby, I like the costuming! I would rather here Terry Jones speak the 
> truth about babies...
> 

correction, "hear," in above sentence, not "here," but here below:
 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzqoTuholfg
> 
> on that...
> 
> 
> I am very happy another couple had a baby born to the earth and all those who 
> had and have babies everywhere! Proclamation being Babies are important 
> people too!
> 
>  
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> > >
> > > C'mon Sal, ease up man, you are crushing all of our Downton Abbey 
> > > fantasies about what proper Brits are like.
> > 
> > Sorry dude, I'll send my butler round in the Bentley with a glass 
> > of port to sooth your shattered illusions.
> > 
> > On a philosophical note, the popularity of shows like Downton and
> > the continued popularity of costume dramas in general really
> > fascinates me. What is it people like about them, is it the
> > sense of a social structure to belong to or a fantasy about being
> > lord of the manor? Or is it about living in a racially pure country
> > again?
> > 
> > People don't really think it was better in those days do they?
> > The aristocracy made up about 1% of the country, life sucked for
> > everyone else. Fascinating we should have a sense of nostalgia
> > about it. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > >  From: salyavin808 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:31 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > > > > > > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > > > > > > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > > > > > > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > > > > > > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > > > > > > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Oh, well *do* enlighten us.
> > > > 
> > > > John just did.
> > > 
> > > No he didn't. I want to know how, out of 2000 people born on
> > > one day, only one has a royal chart. Do the planets shift
> > > about so much on our tiny island?
> > > 
> > > You having trouble reading again? 
> > > 
> > > Yawn.
> > > 
> > > Amazing
> > > > how you manage to miss entire paragraphs.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > > But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> > > > > > to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> > > > > > virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> > > > > > reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> > > > > > chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[obbajeeba]

Yeah, really. It is like the humbling words from a Scouse elder who says, 
"People (Women) used to dress so nice, so elegant. Now a days, they dress like 
paupers in worn jeans and black lipstick."  
 I answered, "You mean like the Leave it to Beaver television shows? Just what 
was marketed to the generation and those who bought and followed from those 
television shows, those were better times?"  
The Scouse did not know what to say, so kept shut (humbled haha). 
Downton Abby, I like the costuming! I would rather here Terry Jones speak the 
truth about babies...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzqoTuholfg

on that...


I am very happy another couple had a baby born to the earth and all those who 
had and have babies everywhere! Proclamation being Babies are important people 
too!

 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
> >
> > C'mon Sal, ease up man, you are crushing all of our Downton Abbey fantasies 
> > about what proper Brits are like.
> 
> Sorry dude, I'll send my butler round in the Bentley with a glass 
> of port to sooth your shattered illusions.
> 
> On a philosophical note, the popularity of shows like Downton and
> the continued popularity of costume dramas in general really
> fascinates me. What is it people like about them, is it the
> sense of a social structure to belong to or a fantasy about being
> lord of the manor? Or is it about living in a racially pure country
> again?
> 
> People don't really think it was better in those days do they?
> The aristocracy made up about 1% of the country, life sucked for
> everyone else. Fascinating we should have a sense of nostalgia
> about it. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > ____________
> >  From: salyavin808 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:31 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > > > > > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > > > > > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > > > > > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > > > > > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > > > > > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, well *do* enlighten us.
> > > 
> > > John just did.
> > 
> > No he didn't. I want to know how, out of 2000 people born on
> > one day, only one has a royal chart. Do the planets shift
> > about so much on our tiny island?
> > 
> > You having trouble reading again? 
> > 
> > Yawn.
> > 
> > Amazing
> > > how you manage to miss entire paragraphs.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > > But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> > > > > to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> > > > > virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> > > > > reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> > > > > chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> > > > > such a king is defined as being a mere figurehead.)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Why don't you see if you can find something about the baby's
> > > > > chart that reflects the reality of his situation rather than
> > > > > a fairy-tale view of it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Share Long]

John, thank you but don't go too far out on that limb. Lots of folks here in 
the Funny Farm Lounge with saws in their hands. Uh oh, including me. In the 
other post you said the brother of the current queen gave up the throne to 
marry an American divorced woman. Actually he was her uncle. He abdicated and 
her father became king. She blamed her uncle for her father's early death. Thus 
the Duke and Duchess of Windsor were never allowed back in the country. 


Also about Moon Rahu conjunctions: didn't Ravi mention that Hitler had that? 
It's got a special name.



 From: John 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 3:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
 


  
Share,

I'll go out on a limb to guess what the baby's name should be based on jyotish 
principles.  Based on the Moon's position, the applicable syllable or sound for 
the baby is "ja".  Therefore, his name could be James or variations of this 
syllable.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> You all* are funny. In a very good way. IMHO (-:
> 
> Xeno, feste, turq
> 
> 
> 
>  From: turquoiseb 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 8:14 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
> >
> > I heard it is a boy. But I have not seen it with my own eyes. So I do not 
> > know it is a boy. Last I heard it was a boy. Previous to that I also heard 
> > it was a boy. By projecting a concept of continuity through time, and 
> > the concept there being a future in relation to the concept of time, I 
> > think that I may have an experience wherein I will hear that it is still 
> > continuing to be a boy.
> 
> 
> The news, as reported by Huffington Post:
> 
> BREAKING NEWS: Woman Gives Birth To Baby A married woman of childbearing age 
> has given birth to a baby boy. 
> The event followed nine months of pregnancy.
> "Both mother and baby are doing well," a spokesman for the woman said. 
> It is now expected that the baby will grow up.
>


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
(snip)
> > But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> > to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> > virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> > reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> > chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> > such a king is defined as being a mere figurehead.)
> > 
> > Why don't you see if you can find something about the baby's
> > chart that reflects the reality of his situation rather than
> > a fairy-tale view of it?
> >
> Judy,
> 
> I'm just reading what the chart says.  Please, read my original 
> post.

That's the post I'm talking about, John, the one in
which you said he was "born to rule." Actually the
most the chart can say, if it's accurate, is that he
was "born to rule but will never get the chance to
do so."






  In jyotish, the Sun is the king of the solar system.  The Sun being placed in 
the 10th house of the chart gives the power of kingship.  In this particular 
case, the boy was a product of a royal family.  And he is lucky enough that the 
power of royalty is passed on to him.
> 
> However, kingship is not necessarily and automatically passed on to babies in 
> a royal family.  Some of these babies become paupers or commoners, which is 
> the case of one British royal member (the brother of the present Queen) in 
> the 20th century who gave up his right to the throne to marry an American and 
> divorced woman.
> 
> For people of common birth, the Sun in the 10th house can give them success 
> in their professional careers, often becoming the presidents and CEOs of the 
> companies they work for.  So, in a sense, the Sun has given them the power to 
> rise above the rest to become leaders of men and women.
> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[John]

Share,

I'll go out on a limb to guess what the baby's name should be based on jyotish 
principles.  Based on the Moon's position, the applicable syllable or sound for 
the baby is "ja".  Therefore, his name could be James or variations of this 
syllable.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> You all* are funny. In a very good way. IMHO (-:
> 
> Xeno, feste, turq
> 
> 
> 
>  From: turquoiseb 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 8:14 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
> >
> > I heard it is a boy. But I have not seen it with my own eyes. So I do not 
> > know it is a boy. Last I heard it was a boy. Previous to that I also heard 
> > it was a boy. By projecting a concept of continuity through time, and 
> > the concept there being a future in relation to the concept of time, I 
> > think that I may have an experience wherein I will hear that it is still 
> > continuing to be a boy.
> 
> 
> The news, as reported by Huffington Post:
> 
> BREAKING NEWS: Woman Gives Birth To Baby A married woman of childbearing age 
> has given birth to a baby boy. 
> The event followed nine months of pregnancy.
> "Both mother and baby are doing well," a spokesman for the woman said. 
> It is now expected that the baby will grow up.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[John]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > Salyavin,
> > 
> > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> 
> Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.
> 
> But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> such a king is defined as being a mere figurehead.)
> 
> Why don't you see if you can find something about the baby's
> chart that reflects the reality of his situation rather than
> a fairy-tale view of it?
>
Judy,

I'm just reading what the chart says.  Please, read my original post.  In 
jyotish, the Sun is the king of the solar system.  The Sun being placed in the 
10th house of the chart gives the power of kingship.  In this particular case, 
the boy was a product of a royal family.  And he is lucky enough that the power 
of royalty is passed on to him.

However, kingship is not necessarily and automatically passed on to babies in a 
royal family.  Some of these babies become paupers or commoners, which is the 
case of one British royal member (the brother of the present Queen) in the 20th 
century who gave up his right to the throne to marry an American and divorced 
woman.

For people of common birth, the Sun in the 10th house can give them success in 
their professional careers, often becoming the presidents and CEOs of the 
companies they work for.  So, in a sense, the Sun has given them the power to 
rise above the rest to become leaders of men and women.





 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Salyavin,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive 
> > > > science.  You can see the message also if you studied jyotish.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > So without knowing he was royal you'd be able to tell?
> > > 
> > > What about the other 2000 babies born in the UK yesterday?
> > > some of those must share the chart. 
> > > 
> > > I'm just being logical dude.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Share,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is 
> > > > > > a Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 
> > > > > > 10th house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus 
> > > > > > is placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will 
> > > > > > bring good luck in his work.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since 
> > > > > > the Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He 
> > > > > > should gain much political advantage and success in his endeavors 
> > > > > > from this birth.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And an extra castle or two for the nanny to live in I should think.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You don't really need a horoscope for people like this as their
> > > > > lives are so predetermined. He goes to Eton, then studies classics
> > > > > at somewhere extremely exclusive, spends a few years in the army
> > > > > shooting foreign peasants, then retires to a palace of his own to
> > > > > perpetetuate the line. What could be more depressing
> > > > > 
> > > > > But at least you get to make an accurate prediction for once ;-)
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > > > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, 
> > > > > > she may have two more male children.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > > > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > > > 
> > > > > LOL, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I imagine queeny might have something to say about that "over
> > > > > my dead body" perhaps, just what have you seen in the stars John?
> > > > >  
> > > > > > JR
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > J

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson  wrote:
>
> C'mon Sal, ease up man, you are crushing all of our Downton Abbey fantasies 
> about what proper Brits are like.

Sorry dude, I'll send my butler round in the Bentley with a glass 
of port to sooth your shattered illusions.

On a philosophical note, the popularity of shows like Downton and
the continued popularity of costume dramas in general really
fascinates me. What is it people like about them, is it the
sense of a social structure to belong to or a fantasy about being
lord of the manor? Or is it about living in a racially pure country
again?

People don't really think it was better in those days do they?
The aristocracy made up about 1% of the country, life sucked for
everyone else. Fascinating we should have a sense of nostalgia
about it. 





> 
>  From: salyavin808 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:31 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
>  
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > 
> > > > > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > > > > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > > > > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > > > > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > > > > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > > > > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> > > > 
> > > > Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.
> > > 
> > > Oh, well *do* enlighten us.
> > 
> > John just did.
> 
> No he didn't. I want to know how, out of 2000 people born on
> one day, only one has a royal chart. Do the planets shift
> about so much on our tiny island?
> 
> You having trouble reading again? 
> 
> Yawn.
> 
> Amazing
> > how you manage to miss entire paragraphs.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> > > > to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> > > > virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> > > > reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> > > > chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> > > > such a king is defined as being a mere figurehead.)
> > > > 
> > > > Why don't you see if you can find something about the baby's
> > > > chart that reflects the reality of his situation rather than
> > > > a fairy-tale view of it?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive 
> > > > > > > science.  You can see the message also if you studied jyotish.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So without knowing he was royal you'd be able to tell?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What about the other 2000 babies born in the UK yesterday?
> > > > > > some of those must share the chart. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm just being logical dude.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" 
> > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Michael Jackson]

C'mon Sal, ease up man, you are crushing all of our Downton Abbey fantasies 
about what proper Brits are like.





 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:31 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
 


  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Salyavin,
> > > > 
> > > > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > > > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > > > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > > > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > > > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > > > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> > > 
> > > Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.
> > 
> > Oh, well *do* enlighten us.
> 
> John just did.

No he didn't. I want to know how, out of 2000 people born on
one day, only one has a royal chart. Do the planets shift
about so much on our tiny island?

You having trouble reading again? 

Yawn.

Amazing
> how you manage to miss entire paragraphs.
> 
> 
> 
> > > But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> > > to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> > > virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> > > reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> > > chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> > > such a king is defined as being a mere figurehead.)
> > > 
> > > Why don't you see if you can find something about the baby's
> > > chart that reflects the reality of his situation rather than
> > > a fairy-tale view of it?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive 
> > > > > > science.  You can see the message also if you studied jyotish.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > So without knowing he was royal you'd be able to tell?
> > > > > 
> > > > > What about the other 2000 babies born in the UK yesterday?
> > > > > some of those must share the chart. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm just being logical dude.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Share,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he 
> > > > > > > > is a Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara 
> > > > > > > > Shaddha.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 
> > > > > > > > 10th house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since 
> > > > > > > > Venus is placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future 
> > > > > > > > wife will bring good luck in his work.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child 
> > > > > > > > since the Sun, representing him,

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> LOL. Do enlighten us then.
>

http://www.aplaceinspace.net/Pages/Astrobasics.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > > > > > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > > > > > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > > > > > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > > > > > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > > > > > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.
> > > > 
> > > > Oh, well *do* enlighten us.
> > > 
> > > John just did.
> > 
> > No he didn't.
> 
> Yes, he did.
> 
> > I want to know how, out of 2000 people born on
> > one day, only one has a royal chart.
> 
> Um, because there was only one royal birth on this
> day, of course.

> > Do the planets shift
> > about so much on our tiny island?
> 
> You are much MUCH *MUCH* more ignorant about astrology
> than I had thought.

LOL. Do enlighten us then.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > 
> 
> > If you want to know what most of us British *actually* think 
> > you should have joined me at work where nobody even mentioned 
> > it and at lunch with friends where nobody even mentioned it 
> > and now at my folks for a family meal, where nobody has even
> > mentioned it.
> 
> You know, I don't really think that the people at your
> place of work, the friends you had lunch with, and your
> folks add up to "most of us British."

Really? The people I saw today are quite representative I'd
say, everyone from a landscape gardener to a career civil 
servant in the Home Office via a chartered designer a 
lawyer and a photographer or two. 

Oh, and my facebook page was more full of anarchist jokes than
usual. Not that anyone I know would ever wish anyone harm of 
course, and the happy couple are accorded the same good wishes 
every new parent gets. But.

> 
> > That most would keep the monarchy doesn't mean they give
> > a toss about it. I don't know anyone that would notice
> > (or care) if they all disappeared overnight but would probably
> > keep the status quo for fear of ending up a republic, but that's
> > a big difference to Bastille day. 
> > 
> > Apparently three-quarters of Brits want to 
> > > retain the monarchy and have for decades. Pollsters
> > > describe it as "probably the most stable trend we have
> > > ever measured." And it doesn't seem to have much of
> > > anything to do with tourism dollars.
> > > 
> > > Me, I've been a huge fan of the queen ever since I
> > > first read about her preparations for the coronation
> > > in Life magazine in 1952, when she was only 26 years
> > > old. She couldn't exactly make a silk purse out of 
> > > the sow's ear of a life she was handed, but she made
> > > it the best damn sow's ear she possibly could. She
> > > is one tough broad.
> > 
> > Oh well, better give her another palace then.
> 
> Oh, what a stinging quip. So insightful.

Chuckle, well she did get a £50,000,000 pay rise last year,
while the rest of us struggle to pay the bills.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > 
> > > > > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > > > > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > > > > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > > > > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > > > > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > > > > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> > > > 
> > > > Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.
> > > 
> > > Oh, well *do* enlighten us.
> > 
> > John just did.
> 
> No he didn't.

Yes, he did.

> I want to know how, out of 2000 people born on
> one day, only one has a royal chart.

Um, because there was only one royal birth on this
day, of course.

> Do the planets shift
> about so much on our tiny island?

You are much MUCH *MUCH* more ignorant about astrology
than I had thought.



> > You having trouble reading again? 
> 
> Yawn.
> 
> Amazing
> > how you manage to miss entire paragraphs.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> > > > to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> > > > virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> > > > reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> > > > chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> > > > such a king is defined as being a mere figurehead.)
> > > > 
> > > > Why don't you see if you can find something about the baby's
> > > > chart that reflects the reality of his situation rather than
> > > > a fairy-tale view of it?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive 
> > > > > > > science.  You can see the message also if you studied jyotish.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So without knowing he was royal you'd be able to tell?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What about the other 2000 babies born in the UK yesterday?
> > > > > > some of those must share the chart. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm just being logical dude.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" 
> > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Share,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, 
> > > > > > > > > he is a Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of 
> > > > > > > > > Uttara Shaddha.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in 
> > > > > > > > > the 10th house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts 
> > > > > > > > > since Venus is placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his 
> > > > > > > > > future wife will bring good luck in his work.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child 
> > > > > > > > > since the Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic 
> > > > > > > > > planets.  He should gain much political advantage and success 
> > > > > > > > > in his endeavors from this birth.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > And an extra castle or two for the nanny to live in I should 
> > > > > > > > think.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > You don't really need a horoscope for people like this as their
> > > > > > > > lives are so predetermined. He goes to Eton, then studies 
> > > > > > > > classics
> > > > > > > > at somewhere extremely exclusive, spends a few years in the army
> > > > > > > > shooting foreign peasants, then retires to a palace of his own 
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > perpetetuate the line. What could be more depressing
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > But at least you get to make an accurate prediction for once ;-)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by 
> > > > > > > > > the Sun, signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  
> > > > > > > > > In addition, she may have two more male children.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will 
> > > > > > > > > soon be crowned as king sin

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Salyavin,
> > > > 
> > > > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > > > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > > > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > > > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > > > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > > > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> > > 
> > > Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.
> > 
> > Oh, well *do* enlighten us.
> 
> John just did.

No he didn't. I want to know how, out of 2000 people born on
one day, only one has a royal chart. Do the planets shift
about so much on our tiny island?

 You having trouble reading again? 

Yawn.

Amazing
> how you manage to miss entire paragraphs.
> 
> 
> 
> > > But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> > > to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> > > virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> > > reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> > > chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> > > such a king is defined as being a mere figurehead.)
> > > 
> > > Why don't you see if you can find something about the baby's
> > > chart that reflects the reality of his situation rather than
> > > a fairy-tale view of it?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive 
> > > > > > science.  You can see the message also if you studied jyotish.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > So without knowing he was royal you'd be able to tell?
> > > > > 
> > > > > What about the other 2000 babies born in the UK yesterday?
> > > > > some of those must share the chart. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm just being logical dude.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" 
> > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Share,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he 
> > > > > > > > is a Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara 
> > > > > > > > Shaddha.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 
> > > > > > > > 10th house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since 
> > > > > > > > Venus is placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future 
> > > > > > > > wife will bring good luck in his work.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child 
> > > > > > > > since the Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic 
> > > > > > > > planets.  He should gain much political advantage and success 
> > > > > > > > in his endeavors from this birth.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And an extra castle or two for the nanny to live in I should 
> > > > > > > think.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You don't really need a horoscope for people like this as their
> > > > > > > lives are so predetermined. He goes to Eton, then studies classics
> > > > > > > at somewhere extremely exclusive, spends a few years in the army
> > > > > > > shooting foreign peasants, then retires to a palace of his own to
> > > > > > > perpetetuate the line. What could be more depressing
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > But at least you get to make an accurate prediction for once ;-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the 
> > > > > > > > Sun, signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In 
> > > > > > > > addition, she may have two more male children.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon 
> > > > > > > > be crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > LOL, 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I imagine queeny might have something to say about that "over
> > > > > > > my dead body" perhaps, just what have you seen in the stars John?
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > JR
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just 
> > > > > > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Salyavin,
> > > 
> > > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> > 
> > Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.
> 
> Oh, well *do* enlighten us.

John just did. You having trouble reading again? Amazing
how you manage to miss entire paragraphs.



> > But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> > to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> > virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> > reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> > chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> > such a king is defined as being a mere figurehead.)
> > 
> > Why don't you see if you can find something about the baby's
> > chart that reflects the reality of his situation rather than
> > a fairy-tale view of it?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Salyavin,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive 
> > > > > science.  You can see the message also if you studied jyotish.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > So without knowing he was royal you'd be able to tell?
> > > > 
> > > > What about the other 2000 babies born in the UK yesterday?
> > > > some of those must share the chart. 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm just being logical dude.
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Share,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he 
> > > > > > > is a Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara 
> > > > > > > Shaddha.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 
> > > > > > > 10th house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus 
> > > > > > > is placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will 
> > > > > > > bring good luck in his work.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child 
> > > > > > > since the Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic 
> > > > > > > planets.  He should gain much political advantage and success in 
> > > > > > > his endeavors from this birth.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > And an extra castle or two for the nanny to live in I should think.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You don't really need a horoscope for people like this as their
> > > > > > lives are so predetermined. He goes to Eton, then studies classics
> > > > > > at somewhere extremely exclusive, spends a few years in the army
> > > > > > shooting foreign peasants, then retires to a palace of his own to
> > > > > > perpetetuate the line. What could be more depressing
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > But at least you get to make an accurate prediction for once ;-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the 
> > > > > > > Sun, signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In 
> > > > > > > addition, she may have two more male children.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon 
> > > > > > > be crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > LOL, 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I imagine queeny might have something to say about that "over
> > > > > > my dead body" perhaps, just what have you seen in the stars John?
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > JR
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just 
> > > > > > > > like his father did.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  From: authfriend 
> > > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > > The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > > 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > (snip)
> > > > Weird thing is, I don't personally know a single person who
> > > > cares about them. They seem to exist purely as a tourist attraction
> > > > for rich Americans. And something for the government to claim
> > > > should make us proud to be British, they've sold everything else
> > > > to foreign companies you see, the flag is all we've got left
> > > 
> > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18237280
> > 
> > Good find. 
> 
> You'll find the BBC and some assorted rightwing newspapers
> will write about very little else for the forseeable future. 
> The BBC do it or they'll get the license fee reduced, hence
> all the naueating sycophancy at the wedding last year. If they
> don't do that they get accused of left wing bias.
> 
> The Daily Mail does it because they still believe in a toadying
> world of grovelling and bowing to people they consider their 
> "betters" even though this world ended at the start of the first
> world war. The DM and the government would love to take us back 
> to those halcyon days of empire.

Well, I don't live there, of course, but I sure have
never had the impression that most Brits are into
toadying and groveling. Bowing, maybe. I have the 
sense as well that these days it's more about tradition
than about "their betters." And I strongly suspect the
government knows better than to want to go back to the
days of the British Empire.

> If you want to know what most of us British *actually* think 
> you should have joined me at work where nobody even mentioned 
> it and at lunch with friends where nobody even mentioned it 
> and now at my folks for a family meal, where nobody has even
> mentioned it.

You know, I don't really think that the people at your
place of work, the friends you had lunch with, and your
folks add up to "most of us British."

> That most would keep the monarchy doesn't mean they give
> a toss about it. I don't know anyone that would notice
> (or care) if they all disappeared overnight but would probably
> keep the status quo for fear of ending up a republic, but that's
> a big difference to Bastille day. 
> 
> Apparently three-quarters of Brits want to 
> > retain the monarchy and have for decades. Pollsters
> > describe it as "probably the most stable trend we have
> > ever measured." And it doesn't seem to have much of
> > anything to do with tourism dollars.
> > 
> > Me, I've been a huge fan of the queen ever since I
> > first read about her preparations for the coronation
> > in Life magazine in 1952, when she was only 26 years
> > old. She couldn't exactly make a silk purse out of 
> > the sow's ear of a life she was handed, but she made
> > it the best damn sow's ear she possibly could. She
> > is one tough broad.
> 
> Oh well, better give her another palace then.

Oh, what a stinging quip. So insightful.

With regard to the royal birth, it strikes me that the
folks who are dumping on the interest in it are according
it more significance than those who are just enjoying it
for what it is.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > Salyavin,
> > 
> > All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> > difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> > Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> > and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> > himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> > picture of a person at a given space and time.
> 
> Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.

Oh, well *do* enlighten us.


> 
> But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
> to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
> virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
> reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
> chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
> such a king is defined as being a mere figurehead.)
> 
> Why don't you see if you can find something about the baby's
> chart that reflects the reality of his situation rather than
> a fairy-tale view of it?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Salyavin,
> > > > 
> > > > I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive 
> > > > science.  You can see the message also if you studied jyotish.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > So without knowing he was royal you'd be able to tell?
> > > 
> > > What about the other 2000 babies born in the UK yesterday?
> > > some of those must share the chart. 
> > > 
> > > I'm just being logical dude.
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Share,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is 
> > > > > > a Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 
> > > > > > 10th house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus 
> > > > > > is placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will 
> > > > > > bring good luck in his work.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since 
> > > > > > the Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He 
> > > > > > should gain much political advantage and success in his endeavors 
> > > > > > from this birth.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And an extra castle or two for the nanny to live in I should think.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You don't really need a horoscope for people like this as their
> > > > > lives are so predetermined. He goes to Eton, then studies classics
> > > > > at somewhere extremely exclusive, spends a few years in the army
> > > > > shooting foreign peasants, then retires to a palace of his own to
> > > > > perpetetuate the line. What could be more depressing
> > > > > 
> > > > > But at least you get to make an accurate prediction for once ;-)
> > > > > 
> > > > >  
> > > > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > > > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, 
> > > > > > she may have two more male children.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > > > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > > > 
> > > > > LOL, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I imagine queeny might have something to say about that "over
> > > > > my dead body" perhaps, just what have you seen in the stars John?
> > > > >  
> > > > > > JR
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just 
> > > > > > > like his father did.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  From: authfriend 
> > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > > > > > King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> (snip)
> > > Weird thing is, I don't personally know a single person who
> > > cares about them. They seem to exist purely as a tourist attraction
> > > for rich Americans. And something for the government to claim
> > > should make us proud to be British, they've sold everything else
> > > to foreign companies you see, the flag is all we've got left
> > 
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18237280
> 
> Good find. 

You'll find the BBC and some assorted rightwing newspapers
will write about very little else for the forseeable future. 
The BBC do it or they'll get the license fee reduced, hence
all the naueating sycophancy at the wedding last year. If they
don't do that they get accused of left wing bias.

The Daily Mail does it because they still believe in a toadying
world of grovelling and bowing to people they consider their 
"betters" even though this world ended at the start of the first
world war. The DM and the government would love to take us back 
to those halcyon days of empire.

If you want to know what most of us British *actually* think 
you should have joined me at work where nobody even mentioned 
it and at lunch with friends where nobody even mentioned it 
and now at my folks for a family meal, where nobody has even
mentioned it.

That most would keep the monarchy doesn't mean they give
a toss about it. I don't know anyone that would notice
(or care) if they all disappeared overnight but would probably
keep the status quo for fear of ending up a republic, but that's
a big difference to Bastille day. 


Apparently three-quarters of Brits want to 
> retain the monarchy and have for decades. Pollsters
> describe it as "probably the most stable trend we have
> ever measured." And it doesn't seem to have much of
> anything to do with tourism dollars.
> 
> Me, I've been a huge fan of the queen ever since I
> first read about her preparations for the coronation
> in Life magazine in 1952, when she was only 26 years
> old. She couldn't exactly make a silk purse out of 
> the sow's ear of a life she was handed, but she made
> it the best damn sow's ear she possibly could. She
> is one tough broad.

Oh well, better give her another palace then.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
(snip)
> > Weird thing is, I don't personally know a single person who
> > cares about them. They seem to exist purely as a tourist attraction
> > for rich Americans. And something for the government to claim
> > should make us proud to be British, they've sold everything else
> > to foreign companies you see, the flag is all we've got left
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18237280

Good find. Apparently three-quarters of Brits want to 
retain the monarchy and have for decades. Pollsters
describe it as "probably the most stable trend we have
ever measured." And it doesn't seem to have much of
anything to do with tourism dollars.

Me, I've been a huge fan of the queen ever since I
first read about her preparations for the coronation
in Life magazine in 1952, when she was only 26 years
old. She couldn't exactly make a silk purse out of 
the sow's ear of a life she was handed, but she made
it the best damn sow's ear she possibly could. She
is one tough broad.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[doctordumbass]

Yes, during the footman gig, they would be REQUIRED - but during the pub crawl 
with Her Majesty, I would insist on wearing a powder blue number, with a brim, 
and sash. Seeing as how my cranium is about three times as big as hers, the hat 
would perch on the very top of my head, and fall off frequently. If the weave 
was tight enough, I'd drink Guiness out of it, too!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Ah c'mon Doc , aren't the lampshades enough!
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  From: "doctordumbass@..." 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 8:01 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
>   
>    
>  
> I think getting drunk with Queen Elizabeth would be AWESOME! Especially if 
> she let me try on some of her hats, and ride as a footman on the back of the 
> royal carriage.
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The one thing I do like about any monarchy, is that when it is working 
> > > well, as in the sandinavian countries, it sets a good example, of service 
> > > by the rich and powerful, beyond them just making big bucks, and 
> > > flaunting it.
> > > 
> > > When my dad was a diplomat, he did it on a government salary, but 99% of 
> > > his fellow Foreign Service Officers were independently wealthy. 
> > > Nonetheless, they saw it as their obligation to both serve in WWII, and 
> > > for their country, afterwards.
> > > 
> > > A king or queen isn't the solution here in the US, but we have to do 
> > > better than "The Kardashians". :-)
> > 
> > Well, after all, our royalty are from Hollywood and those who are more 
> > commonly known as "movie stars".  Some are even considered "royal" who 
> > appear on reality shows. Can you think of a more vacuous and inane type 
> > than that? I think I'd rather spend an evening talking about architecture 
> > and sustainable farming with Prince Charles or, better still, having a 
> > gallop in Windsor Park with Princess Anne.
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why 
> > > > anyone 
> > > > gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
> > > > to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens 
> > > > was 
> > > > not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
> > > > from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the 
> > > > guys 
> > > > made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
> > > > silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> > > > the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
> > > > shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> > > > seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> > > > fiction to the rest of us.
> > > > 
> > > > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > > > > Share,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > > >
> > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is 
> > > > > placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring 
> > > > > good luck in his work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since 
> > > > > the Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He 
> > > > > should gain much political advantage and success in his endeavors 
> > > > > from this birth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she 
> > > > > may have two more male children.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > > >
> > > > > JR
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like 
> > > > >> his father did.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>   From: authfriend 
> > > > >> To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Â
> > > > >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > > >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Salyavin,
> 
> All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The
> difference in time can mean different variations of the life.
> Also, you have to consider the karma, both in this lifetime
> and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the child
> himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific
> picture of a person at a given space and time.

Salyavin is even more ignorant about astrology than I thought.

But John, you know, "born to rule" is an awfully silly thing
to say about this baby, given that the British monarchy has
virtually no power and is exceedingly unlikely ever to
reacquire any. (Equally silly is the notion that his father's
chart is that of "a king of the age of enlightenment," unless
such a king is defined as being a mere figurehead.)

Why don't you see if you can find something about the baby's
chart that reflects the reality of his situation rather than
a fairy-tale view of it?







> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Salyavin,
> > > 
> > > I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive 
> > > science.  You can see the message also if you studied jyotish.
> > >
> > 
> > So without knowing he was royal you'd be able to tell?
> > 
> > What about the other 2000 babies born in the UK yesterday?
> > some of those must share the chart. 
> > 
> > I'm just being logical dude.
> > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Share,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > > > 
> > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is 
> > > > > placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring 
> > > > > good luck in his work.
> > > > 
> > > > What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since 
> > > > > the Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He 
> > > > > should gain much political advantage and success in his endeavors 
> > > > > from this birth.
> > > > 
> > > > And an extra castle or two for the nanny to live in I should think.
> > > > 
> > > > You don't really need a horoscope for people like this as their
> > > > lives are so predetermined. He goes to Eton, then studies classics
> > > > at somewhere extremely exclusive, spends a few years in the army
> > > > shooting foreign peasants, then retires to a palace of his own to
> > > > perpetetuate the line. What could be more depressing
> > > > 
> > > > But at least you get to make an accurate prediction for once ;-)
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she 
> > > > > may have two more male children.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > > 
> > > > LOL, 
> > > > 
> > > > I imagine queeny might have something to say about that "over
> > > > my dead body" perhaps, just what have you seen in the stars John?
> > > >  
> > > > > JR
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like 
> > > > > > his father did.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  From: authfriend 
> > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >   
> > > > > > The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > > > > King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[John]

Salyavin,

All of the babies were not born at the same time.  The difference in time can 
mean different variations of the life.  Also, you have to consider the karma, 
both in this lifetime and the past life, of the father, the mother, and the 
child himself.  In effect, the birth chart is a very specific picture of a 
person at a given space and time.

JR



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > Salyavin,
> > 
> > I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive science.  
> > You can see the message also if you studied jyotish.
> >
> 
> So without knowing he was royal you'd be able to tell?
> 
> What about the other 2000 babies born in the UK yesterday?
> some of those must share the chart. 
> 
> I'm just being logical dude.
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Share,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > > 
> > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed 
> > > > in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck 
> > > > in his work.
> > > 
> > > What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the 
> > > > Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should 
> > > > gain much political advantage and success in his endeavors from this 
> > > > birth.
> > > 
> > > And an extra castle or two for the nanny to live in I should think.
> > > 
> > > You don't really need a horoscope for people like this as their
> > > lives are so predetermined. He goes to Eton, then studies classics
> > > at somewhere extremely exclusive, spends a few years in the army
> > > shooting foreign peasants, then retires to a palace of his own to
> > > perpetetuate the line. What could be more depressing
> > > 
> > > But at least you get to make an accurate prediction for once ;-)
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she 
> > > > may have two more male children.
> > > > 
> > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > 
> > > LOL, 
> > > 
> > > I imagine queeny might have something to say about that "over
> > > my dead body" perhaps, just what have you seen in the stars John?
> > >  
> > > > JR
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like 
> > > > > his father did.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  From: authfriend 
> > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > > >  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >   
> > > > > The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > > > King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Share Long]

You all* are funny. In a very good way. IMHO (-:

Xeno, feste, turq



 From: turquoiseb 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 8:14 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
 


  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
>
> I heard it is a boy. But I have not seen it with my own eyes. So I do not 
> know it is a boy. Last I heard it was a boy. Previous to that I also heard 
> it was a boy. By projecting a concept of continuity through time, and 
> the concept there being a future in relation to the concept of time, I 
> think that I may have an experience wherein I will hear that it is still 
> continuing to be a boy.


The news, as reported by Huffington Post:

BREAKING NEWS: Woman Gives Birth To Baby A married woman of childbearing age 
has given birth to a baby boy. 
The event followed nine months of pregnancy.
"Both mother and baby are doing well," a spokesman for the woman said. 
It is now expected that the baby will grow up.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why anyone 
> > gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
> > to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens was 
> > not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
> > from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the guys 
> > made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
> > silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> > the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
> > shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> > seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> > fiction to the rest of us.
> 
> Don't worry Bhairitu, you won't offend me. I think the royal
> family are a bunch of parasites, just who the fuck do they
> think they are with all this "bow to me" bullshit. 
> 
> They are a bunch of hideous snobs that somehow get away with
> owning most of the country (and making a tax-free profit from
> it) just because their ancestors stole it from us and made us
> all serfs. And they're all German anyway.
> 
> Weird thing is, I don't personally know a single person who
> cares about them. They seem to exist purely as a tourist attraction
> for rich Americans. And something for the government to claim
> should make us proud to be British, they've sold everything else
> to foreign companies you see, the flag is all we've got left

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18237280
> 
> 
> 
> > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > > Share,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > >
> > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 
> > > 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in 
> > > his work.
> > >
> > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the 
> > > Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain 
> > > much political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
> > >
> > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may 
> > > have two more male children.
> > >
> > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > >
> > > JR
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> > >> father did.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>   From: authfriend 
> > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > >>   
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Â
> > >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius"  wrote:
>
> I heard it is a boy. But I have not seen it with my own eyes. So I do
not
> know it is a boy. Last I heard it was a boy. Previous to that I also
heard
> it was a boy. By projecting a concept of continuity through time, and
> the concept there being a future in relation to the concept of time, I
> think that I may have an experience wherein I will hear that it is
still
> continuing to be a boy.


The news, as reported by Huffington Post:
BREAKING NEWS: Woman Gives Birth To Baby  A married woman of
childbearing age has given birth to a baby boy.
The event followed nine months of pregnancy.

"Both mother and baby are doing well," a spokesman for the woman said.

It is now expected that the baby will grow up.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

I heard it is a boy. But I have not seen it with my own eyes. So I do not know 
it is a boy. Last I heard it was a boy. Previous to that I also heard it was a 
boy. By projecting a concept of continuity through time, and the concept there 
being a future in relation to the concept of time, I think that I may have an 
experience wherein I will hear that it is still continuing to be a boy.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Mike Dixon]

Ah c'mon Doc , aren't the lampshades enough!

 


 From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 8:01 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
  
   
 
I think getting drunk with Queen Elizabeth would be AWESOME! Especially if she 
let me try on some of her hats, and ride as a footman on the back of the royal 
carriage.

--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  
> wrote:
> >
> > The one thing I do like about any monarchy, is that when it is working 
> > well, as in the sandinavian countries, it sets a good example, of service 
> > by the rich and powerful, beyond them just making big bucks, and flaunting 
> > it.
> > 
> > When my dad was a diplomat, he did it on a government salary, but 99% of 
> > his fellow Foreign Service Officers were independently wealthy. 
> > Nonetheless, they saw it as their obligation to both serve in WWII, and for 
> > their country, afterwards.
> > 
> > A king or queen isn't the solution here in the US, but we have to do better 
> > than "The Kardashians". :-)
> 
> Well, after all, our royalty are from Hollywood and those who are more 
> commonly known as "movie stars".  Some are even considered "royal" who appear 
> on reality shows. Can you think of a more vacuous and inane type than that? I 
> think I'd rather spend an evening talking about architecture and sustainable 
> farming with Prince Charles or, better still, having a gallop in Windsor Park 
> with Princess Anne.
> > 
> > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why anyone 
> > > gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
> > > to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens was 
> > > not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
> > > from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the guys 
> > > made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
> > > silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> > > the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
> > > shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> > > seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> > > fiction to the rest of us.
> > > 
> > > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > > > Share,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > >
> > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed 
> > > > in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck 
> > > > in his work.
> > > >
> > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the 
> > > > Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should 
> > > > gain much political advantage and success in his endeavors from this 
> > > > birth.
> > > >
> > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she 
> > > > may have two more male children.
> > > >
> > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > >
> > > > JR
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> > > >> father did.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >>   From: authfriend 
> > > >> To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
> > > >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > >> 
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Â
> > > >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

   
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[feste37]

What's up with your subject heading, authfriend? Something missing, I'd say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rd7j-aSqFU


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > Share,
> > 
> > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth 
> > time given, he is a Libra ascendant with the Moon 
> > in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > 
> > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun 
> > is placed in the 10th house. He will also be 
> > accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed 
> > in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future 
> > wife will bring good luck in his work.
> 
> What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?

Ah, the benefits of "foreknowledge" when making
"predictions." Reminds me of this bit from "Monty
Python's Life Of Brian."

Brian's mother: What star sign is he?
Wise Man #2: Capricorn.
Brian's mother: Capricorn, eh? What are they like?
Wise Man #2: He is the son of God, our Messiah.
Wise Man #1: King of the Jews.
Brian's mother: And that's Capricorn, is it?
Wise Man #3: No, no, that's just him.
Brian's mother: Oh, I was going to say, otherwise 
there'd be a lot of them. 

:-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig"  wrote:
>
> I lived in the UK in 1978-1983. Early in my stay, I was the guest in 
> someone's home and someone mentioned that the Queen would be visiting some 
> local attraction and that they should go see her.
> 
> Her friend dryly responded, "Oh yes, we should all go see the Queen, don't we 
> all agree?"
> 
> Everyone in the room nodded solemnly and then started discussing which move 
> was worth watching instead.

That's about it for most of us really. They just seem astonishingly
irrelevant in their cloistered little world of grovelling footmen
and sycophantic civil servants. I wouldn't wish a life like that
on anyone.

But there must be a lot of people into it or there wouldn't be crowds outside 
the palace waving flags all night. Takes all sorts I suppose. I think that Maj 
is so much part of the furniture of the country that most never even question 
it and if they do the conclusion is that 
they bring in a lot of tourist dollars. Bit of a sad indictment.

And children like them, they fit in to the English upbringing
somewhere between santa, god and the tooth fairy - a nice little
story for kids about princes and castles. But we soon snap out of
it when we see prince Andrew on a trade mission selling weapons
to Arab dictators. This is what they are for really, keeping the British end up.


> L
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why anyone 
> > > gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
> > > to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens was 
> > > not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
> > > from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the guys 
> > > made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
> > > silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> > > the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
> > > shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> > > seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> > > fiction to the rest of us.
> > 
> > Don't worry Bhairitu, you won't offend me. I think the royal
> > family are a bunch of parasites, just who the fuck do they
> > think they are with all this "bow to me" bullshit. 
> > 
> > They are a bunch of hideous snobs that somehow get away with
> > owning most of the country (and making a tax-free profit from
> > it) just because their ancestors stole it from us and made us
> > all serfs. And they're all German anyway.
> > 
> > Weird thing is, I don't personally know a single person who
> > cares about them. They seem to exist purely as a tourist attraction
> > for rich Americans. And something for the government to claim
> > should make us proud to be British, they've sold everything else
> > to foreign companies you see, the flag is all we've got left
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > > > Share,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > >
> > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed 
> > > > in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck 
> > > > in his work.
> > > >
> > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the 
> > > > Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should 
> > > > gain much political advantage and success in his endeavors from this 
> > > > birth.
> > > >
> > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she 
> > > > may have two more male children.
> > > >
> > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > >
> > > > JR
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> > > >> father did.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >>   From: authfriend 
> > > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > >>   
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> �
> > > >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Salyavin,
> 
> I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive science.  
> You can see the message also if you studied jyotish.
>

So without knowing he was royal you'd be able to tell?

What about the other 2000 babies born in the UK yesterday?
some of those must share the chart. 

I'm just being logical dude.

> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Share,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > 
> > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 
> > > 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in 
> > > his work.
> > 
> > What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the 
> > > Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain 
> > > much political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
> > 
> > And an extra castle or two for the nanny to live in I should think.
> > 
> > You don't really need a horoscope for people like this as their
> > lives are so predetermined. He goes to Eton, then studies classics
> > at somewhere extremely exclusive, spends a few years in the army
> > shooting foreign peasants, then retires to a palace of his own to
> > perpetetuate the line. What could be more depressing
> > 
> > But at least you get to make an accurate prediction for once ;-)
> > 
> >  
> > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may 
> > > have two more male children.
> > > 
> > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > 
> > LOL, 
> > 
> > I imagine queeny might have something to say about that "over
> > my dead body" perhaps, just what have you seen in the stars John?
> >  
> > > JR
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> > > > father did.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >  From: authfriend 
> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > > King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[John]

Salyavin,

I'm just reading the chart the way it's shown.  It's an intuitive science.  You 
can see the message also if you studied jyotish.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > Share,
> > 
> > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a Libra 
> > ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > 
> > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th house. 
> >  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 11th 
> > house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in his work.
> 
> What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?
> 
> 
> > 
> > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the Sun, 
> > representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain much 
> > political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
> 
> And an extra castle or two for the nanny to live in I should think.
> 
> You don't really need a horoscope for people like this as their
> lives are so predetermined. He goes to Eton, then studies classics
> at somewhere extremely exclusive, spends a few years in the army
> shooting foreign peasants, then retires to a palace of his own to
> perpetetuate the line. What could be more depressing
> 
> But at least you get to make an accurate prediction for once ;-)
> 
>  
> > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may 
> > have two more male children.
> > 
> > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be crowned 
> > as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> 
> LOL, 
> 
> I imagine queeny might have something to say about that "over
> my dead body" perhaps, just what have you seen in the stars John?
>  
> > JR
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >
> > > John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> > > father did.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  From: authfriend 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[sparaig]

I lived in the UK in 1978-1983. Early in my stay, I was the guest in someone's 
home and someone mentioned that the Queen would be visiting some local 
attraction and that they should go see her.

Her friend dryly responded, "Oh yes, we should all go see the Queen, don't we 
all agree?"

Everyone in the room nodded solemnly and then started discussing which move was 
worth watching instead.

L

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why anyone 
> > gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
> > to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens was 
> > not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
> > from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the guys 
> > made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
> > silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> > the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
> > shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> > seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> > fiction to the rest of us.
> 
> Don't worry Bhairitu, you won't offend me. I think the royal
> family are a bunch of parasites, just who the fuck do they
> think they are with all this "bow to me" bullshit. 
> 
> They are a bunch of hideous snobs that somehow get away with
> owning most of the country (and making a tax-free profit from
> it) just because their ancestors stole it from us and made us
> all serfs. And they're all German anyway.
> 
> Weird thing is, I don't personally know a single person who
> cares about them. They seem to exist purely as a tourist attraction
> for rich Americans. And something for the government to claim
> should make us proud to be British, they've sold everything else
> to foreign companies you see, the flag is all we've got left
> 
> 
> 
> > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > > Share,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > >
> > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 
> > > 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in 
> > > his work.
> > >
> > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the 
> > > Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain 
> > > much political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
> > >
> > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may 
> > > have two more male children.
> > >
> > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > >
> > > JR
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> > >> father did.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>   From: authfriend 
> > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > >>   
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> �
> > >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> Share,
> 
> Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a Libra 
> ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> 
> He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.  
> He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 11th house 
> from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in his work.

What about the other 2000 babies born yesterday?


> 
> Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the Sun, 
> representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain much 
> political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.

And an extra castle or two for the nanny to live in I should think.

You don't really need a horoscope for people like this as their
lives are so predetermined. He goes to Eton, then studies classics
at somewhere extremely exclusive, spends a few years in the army
shooting foreign peasants, then retires to a palace of his own to
perpetetuate the line. What could be more depressing

But at least you get to make an accurate prediction for once ;-)

 
> Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may have 
> two more male children.
> 
> Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be crowned as 
> king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.

LOL, 

I imagine queeny might have something to say about that "over
my dead body" perhaps, just what have you seen in the stars John?
 
> JR
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >
> > John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> > father did.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  From: authfriend 
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> >  
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[salyavin808]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why anyone 
> gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
> to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens was 
> not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
> from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the guys 
> made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
> silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
> shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> fiction to the rest of us.

Don't worry Bhairitu, you won't offend me. I think the royal
family are a bunch of parasites, just who the fuck do they
think they are with all this "bow to me" bullshit. 

They are a bunch of hideous snobs that somehow get away with
owning most of the country (and making a tax-free profit from
it) just because their ancestors stole it from us and made us
all serfs. And they're all German anyway.

Weird thing is, I don't personally know a single person who
cares about them. They seem to exist purely as a tourist attraction
for rich Americans. And something for the government to claim
should make us proud to be British, they've sold everything else
to foreign companies you see, the flag is all we've got left



> On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > Share,
> >
> > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a Libra 
> > ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> >
> > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th house. 
> >  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 11th 
> > house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in his work.
> >
> > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the Sun, 
> > representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain much 
> > political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
> >
> > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may 
> > have two more male children.
> >
> > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be crowned 
> > as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> >
> > JR
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> >> father did.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>   From: authfriend 
> >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> >>   
> >>
> >>
> >> Â
> >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> >>
> >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> I think getting drunk with Queen Elizabeth would be AWESOME!
Especially if she let me try on some of her hats, and ride as a footman
on the back of the royal carriage.











>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" awoelflebater@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > >
> > > The one thing I do like about any monarchy, is that when it is
working well, as in the sandinavian countries, it sets a good example,
of service by the rich and powerful, beyond them just making big bucks,
and flaunting it.
> > >
> > > When my dad was a diplomat, he did it on a government salary, but
99% of his fellow Foreign Service Officers were independently wealthy.
Nonetheless, they saw it as their obligation to both serve in WWII, and
for their country, afterwards.
> > >
> > > A king or queen isn't the solution here in the US, but we have to
do better than "The Kardashians". :-)
> >
> > Well, after all, our royalty are from Hollywood and those who are
more commonly known as "movie stars".  Some are even considered "royal"
who appear on reality shows. Can you think of a more vacuous and inane
type than that? I think I'd rather spend an evening talking about
architecture and sustainable farming with Prince Charles or, better
still, having a gallop in Windsor Park with Princess Anne.
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood
why anyone
> > > > gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of
fashion
> > > > to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and
queens was
> > > > not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with
someone
> > > > from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of
the guys
> > > > made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant
with cold
> > > > silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot
from
> > > > the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really
take this
> > > > shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it
> > > > seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the
X-Men
> > > > fiction to the rest of us.
> > > >
> > > > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > > > > Share,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given,
he is a Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara
Shaddha.
> > > > >
> > > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in
the 10th house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is
placed in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring
good luck in his work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child
since the Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He
should gain much political advantage and success in his endeavors from
this birth.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the
Sun, signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition,
she may have two more male children.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will
soon be crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > > >
> > > > > JR
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just
like his father did.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>   From: authfriend
> > > > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > > >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Â
> > > > >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > > >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[doctordumbass]

I think getting drunk with Queen Elizabeth would be AWESOME! Especially if she 
let me try on some of her hats, and ride as a footman on the back of the royal 
carriage.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > The one thing I do like about any monarchy, is that when it is working 
> > well, as in the sandinavian countries, it sets a good example, of service 
> > by the rich and powerful, beyond them just making big bucks, and flaunting 
> > it.
> > 
> > When my dad was a diplomat, he did it on a government salary, but 99% of 
> > his fellow Foreign Service Officers were independently wealthy. 
> > Nonetheless, they saw it as their obligation to both serve in WWII, and for 
> > their country, afterwards.
> > 
> > A king or queen isn't the solution here in the US, but we have to do better 
> > than "The Kardashians". :-)
> 
> Well, after all, our royalty are from Hollywood and those who are more 
> commonly known as "movie stars".  Some are even considered "royal" who appear 
> on reality shows. Can you think of a more vacuous and inane type than that? I 
> think I'd rather spend an evening talking about architecture and sustainable 
> farming with Prince Charles or, better still, having a gallop in Windsor Park 
> with Princess Anne.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > > At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why anyone 
> > > gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
> > > to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens was 
> > > not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
> > > from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the guys 
> > > made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
> > > silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> > > the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
> > > shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> > > seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> > > fiction to the rest of us.
> > > 
> > > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > > > Share,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > > >
> > > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed 
> > > > in 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck 
> > > > in his work.
> > > >
> > > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the 
> > > > Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should 
> > > > gain much political advantage and success in his endeavors from this 
> > > > birth.
> > > >
> > > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she 
> > > > may have two more male children.
> > > >
> > > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > > >
> > > > JR
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> > > >> father did.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> 
> > > >>   From: authfriend 
> > > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > > >>   
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Â
> > > >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > > >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Ann]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@...  wrote:
>
> The one thing I do like about any monarchy, is that when it is working well, 
> as in the sandinavian countries, it sets a good example, of service by the 
> rich and powerful, beyond them just making big bucks, and flaunting it.
> 
> When my dad was a diplomat, he did it on a government salary, but 99% of his 
> fellow Foreign Service Officers were independently wealthy. Nonetheless, they 
> saw it as their obligation to both serve in WWII, and for their country, 
> afterwards.
> 
> A king or queen isn't the solution here in the US, but we have to do better 
> than "The Kardashians". :-)

Well, after all, our royalty are from Hollywood and those who are more commonly 
known as "movie stars".  Some are even considered "royal" who appear on reality 
shows. Can you think of a more vacuous and inane type than that? I think I'd 
rather spend an evening talking about architecture and sustainable farming with 
Prince Charles or, better still, having a gallop in Windsor Park with Princess 
Anne.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why anyone 
> > gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
> > to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens was 
> > not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
> > from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the guys 
> > made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
> > silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> > the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
> > shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> > seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> > fiction to the rest of us.
> > 
> > On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > > Share,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a 
> > > Libra ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> > >
> > > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th 
> > > house.  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 
> > > 11th house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in 
> > > his work.
> > >
> > > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the 
> > > Sun, representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain 
> > > much political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
> > >
> > > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may 
> > > have two more male children.
> > >
> > > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be 
> > > crowned as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> > >
> > > JR
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> > >> father did.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>   From: authfriend 
> > >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> > >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> > >>   
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Â
> > >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Mike Dixon]

Oh c'mon Bhairitu, you can do better than that! It's all about capitalist pigs 
creating a fantasies for children to lose themselves in. People like... Walt 
Disney create an illusion for the little ones to get addicted to in hopes that 
one day their Prince Charming will come to their rescue(sexist to) and take 
them out of this cruel world where those very capitalist pigs exploit their 
fathers and mothers for minimum wage and keep them down without union 
representation yada yada yada.

 


 From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy
  
   
 
At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why anyone 
gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens was 
not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the guys 
made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
fiction to the rest of us.

On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> Share,
>
> Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a Libra 
> ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
>
> He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.  
> He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 11th house 
> from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in his work.
>
> Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the Sun, 
> representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain much 
> political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
>
> Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may have 
> two more male children.
>
> Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be crowned as 
> king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
>
> JR
>
> --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Share Long  
> wrote:
>> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
>> father did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>   From: authfriend 
>> To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
>> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
>> 
>>
>>
>> Â
>> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
>> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
>>
>
>

   
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[doctordumbass]

The one thing I do like about any monarchy, is that when it is working well, as 
in the sandinavian countries, it sets a good example, of service by the rich 
and powerful, beyond them just making big bucks, and flaunting it.

When my dad was a diplomat, he did it on a government salary, but 99% of his 
fellow Foreign Service Officers were independently wealthy. Nonetheless, they 
saw it as their obligation to both serve in WWII, and for their country, 
afterwards.

A king or queen isn't the solution here in the US, but we have to do better 
than "The Kardashians". :-) 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why anyone 
> gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
> to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens was 
> not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
> from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the guys 
> made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
> silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
> the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
> shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
> seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
> fiction to the rest of us.
> 
> On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> > Share,
> >
> > Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a Libra 
> > ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
> >
> > He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th house. 
> >  He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 11th 
> > house from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in his work.
> >
> > Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the Sun, 
> > representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain much 
> > political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
> >
> > Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> > signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may 
> > have two more male children.
> >
> > Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be crowned 
> > as king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
> >
> > JR
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> >> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
> >> father did.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>   From: authfriend 
> >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
> >>   
> >>
> >>
> >> Â
> >> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> >> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> >>
> >
> >
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Bhairitu]

At the risk of offending our UK members I've never understood why anyone 
gives a shit about the "royal family."   Seems dated and out of fashion 
to me but then we Americans were raised that having kings and queens was 
not the way to go.  I mention this because I used to work with someone 
from the UK and one day when a bunch of us were at lunch one of the guys 
made a crack about the British Royal Family and it was meant with cold 
silence from the guy from the UK.  Afterwards and out of earshot from 
the UK guy the guy who made the crack said "wow, they really take this 
shit seriously."  Hard to imagine someone like salvy taking it 
seriously.  Such "special people" are about on the level of the X-Men 
fiction to the rest of us.

On 07/22/2013 02:18 PM, John wrote:
> Share,
>
> Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a Libra 
> ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.
>
> He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.  
> He will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 11th house 
> from Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in his work.
>
> Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the Sun, 
> representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain much 
> political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.
>
> Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, 
> signifying the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may have 
> two more male children.
>
> Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be crowned as 
> king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.
>
> JR
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his 
>> father did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>   From: authfriend 
>> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
>> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
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>> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
>> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> On 07/22/2013 01:48 PM, authfriend wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >>> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> >>> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> >> The baby was born at 4:24 pm London time (11:24 am Eastern
> >> Daylight time), weighing 8 pounds, 6 ounces.
> > Or it may have been 12:24 pm Eastern Daylight time--I'm
> > getting different times from different Web time-zone
> > converters. All the news reports say "4:24 pm local time,"
> > FWIW, which should be BST, British Summer Time.
> 
> You want the BST since the UK is GMT but goes BST for
> summer.  It's one hour ahead of UTC

That's what I figured, but I got two different times 
depending on the site. All the sites I tried noted that
both locations, NYC and London, were on Daylight Saving/
Summer time, so they were presumably taking that into
account; but one of the sites (the first one I used)
gave me 11:24 am EDT for the time of birth in NYC, the
others gave me 12:24 pm EDT. How could it be 12:24 if
the cities are five hours apart, both times are Daylight
Saving/Summer time, and the kid was born at 4:24 local
time?

Never mind! The baby's born, he and the mother are in
good shape, and I'm not concerned about his horoscope.





 which is what is used
> for planetary calculations and the same year round.  Time zones are the bane 
> of astrologers.  In the 
> Internet age we could do away with them altogether and just use UTC.  It 
> would make things much easier when communicating with people in other 
> parts of the world.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[John]

Share,

Thanks for the heads up.  According to the birth time given, he is a Libra 
ascendant with the Moon in the nakshatra of Uttara Shaddha.

He was born to rule as a royalty since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.  He 
will also be accomplished in the Arts since Venus is placed in 11th house from 
Saturn, or that his future wife will bring good luck in his work.

Prince William will further benefit from this new born child since the Sun, 
representing him, are surrounded by benefic planets.  He should gain much 
political advantage and success in his endeavors from this birth.

Kate will gain as well since the Moon is being aspected by the Sun, signifying 
the splendor of the father and royalty.  In addition, she may have two more 
male children.

Since Rahu represents the grandfather, Prince Charles will soon be crowned as 
king since the Sun is placed in the 10th house.

JR

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
>
> John, Moon in Capricorn! I bet he marries an older woman just like his father 
> did.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  From: authfriend 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 2:41 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] It's a boy
>  
> 
> 
>   
> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[Bhairitu]

On 07/22/2013 01:48 PM, authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>>> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
>>> King of England. His name will be announced soon.
>> The baby was born at 4:24 pm London time (11:24 am Eastern
>> Daylight time), weighing 8 pounds, 6 ounces.
> Or it may have been 12:24 pm Eastern Daylight time--I'm
> getting different times from different Web time-zone
> converters. All the news reports say "4:24 pm local time,"
> FWIW, which should be BST, British Summer Time.

You want the BST since the UK is GMT but goes BST for summer.  It's one 
hour ahead of UTC which is what is used for planetary calculations and 
the same year round.  Time zones are the bane of astrologers.  In the 
Internet age we could do away with them altogether and just use UTC.  It 
would make things much easier when communicating with people in other 
parts of the world.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> > King of England. His name will be announced soon.
> 
> The baby was born at 4:24 pm London time (11:24 am Eastern
> Daylight time), weighing 8 pounds, 6 ounces.

Or it may have been 12:24 pm Eastern Daylight time--I'm
getting different times from different Web time-zone
converters. All the news reports say "4:24 pm local time,"
FWIW, which should be BST, British Summer Time.

[FairfieldLife] Re: It's a boy

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> The Duchess of Cambridge has given birth to the future
> King of England. His name will be announced soon.

The baby was born at 4:24 pm London time (11:24 am Eastern
Daylight time), weighing 8 pounds, 6 ounces.