[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 LOL. Rick's his usual smartass self, but he does make a good case in the last sentence: At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. If, as was suggested here, the price is low because he's so concerned, why isn't he concerned enough to offer the course for free, and in fact compensate the people who have to leave their jobs to participate? I guess he isn't *that* concerned... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. Oh yeah, there's a cogent comment. Does he think they'll be eating and sleeping at the local county jail? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 LOL. Rick's his usual smartass self, but he does make a good case in the last sentence: At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. If, as was suggested here, the price is low because he's so concerned, why isn't he concerned enough to offer the course for free, and in fact compensate the people who have to leave their jobs to participate? I guess he isn't *that* concerned... I misread that part originally, but which part of MMY's billions will pay for this course? The part earmarked for other stuff? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 LOL. Rick's his usual smartass self, but he does make a good case in the last sentence: At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. If, as was suggested here, the price is low because he's so concerned, why isn't he concerned enough to offer the course for free, and in fact compensate the people who have to leave their jobs to participate? I guess he isn't *that* concerned... To have the guru, any guru, pay for the course would be contrary to the natural order of things. The course is specifically for the seeker. To gain reward from the course, the seeker must pay something. It is just the way it is, and non-specific to TM or MMY or any other valid method of spiritual instruction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. Oh yeah, there's a cogent comment. Does he think they'll be eating and sleeping at the local county jail? Probably not, but they will be hearing alot about the importance of building 'proper vastu', I'll bet. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 LOL. Rick's his usual smartass self, but he does make a good case in the last sentence: At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. If, as was suggested here, the price is low because he's so concerned, why isn't he concerned enough to offer the course for free, and in fact compensate the people who have to leave their jobs to participate? I guess he isn't *that* concerned... To have the guru, any guru, pay for the course would be contrary to the natural order of things. The course is specifically for the seeker. To gain reward from the course, the seeker must pay something. It is just the way it is, and non-specific to TM or MMY or any other valid method of spiritual instruction. There's also the old thing about how paying for something makes it more important. If they offered it for free, instead of at cost, they'ed run the risk of people looking for a paid vacation who wouldn't bother participating in the Yogic Flying. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. Oh yeah, there's a cogent comment. Does he think they'll be eating and sleeping at the local county jail? No, per the present plan, they'll be eating for 30 bucks a day and sleeping on someone's sofa. All while giving up their paychecks from work for two months. :-) But here's a riddle for you. I remember in the past that you've been a big proponent of the the TMO can't spend its capital because it needs it for the future. So explain this to me -- Maharishi's doing the Big Fear Trip again, implying that if people don't flock to this course, at their expense (albeit less expensive than some courses in the past), Dire Things are going to happen to the world. Did I get that right? Ok, so here's the quandary: if the times are so tough that there may not *BE* a future, what is the purpose of all those billions the TMO has stashed away? Seems to me that if *HE* believed the stuff he's saying, he'd have made some of that money available to make the room and board of this course free, and in fact offer to make up for at least a portion of the participants' salary. Do the math -- if we're talking a total of 3000 siddhas, at a cost of $30 a day for food, add in another $70 a day for housing, and compensate each of them who has to leave a job (say 60%, because many may be married and unworking or retired or well-to-do), say, %3000 a month for lost salary, that comes to a grand total of $1,380,000. One could make the case for that being a drop in the bucket compared to the billions that the TMO is reputed to have as assets. One could also make the case that this drop in the bucket might be worth spending if the situation is as dire as he implies, and the very future of the planet is at stake. Or one could make the people who have been paying for such emergency courses for decades do so again. Oh, what's a person who really cares about world peace to do? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 LOL. Rick's his usual smartass self, but he does make a good case in the last sentence: At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. If, as was suggested here, the price is low because he's so concerned, why isn't he concerned enough to offer the course for free, and in fact compensate the people who have to leave their jobs to participate? I guess he isn't *that* concerned... To have the guru, any guru, pay for the course would be contrary to the natural order of things. The course is specifically for the seeker. To gain reward from the course, the seeker must pay something. It is just the way it is, and non-specific to TM or MMY or any other valid method of spiritual instruction. Jim, I love you dearly, but really, dude, you make a lot of assumptions about and excuses for a man you've never met. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they offered it for free, instead of at cost, they'ed run the risk of people looking for a paid vacation who wouldn't bother participating in the Yogic Flying. Don't be ridiculous; this is the TM movement. The first time anyone skipped a butt-bouncing session, the Mind Police would report them and they'd be on their way back home in an instant. Good shuck and jive routine, though. Now see how well you do with the quandary I posed in a followup post to the one you're replying to... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. Oh yeah, there's a cogent comment. Does he think they'll be eating and sleeping at the local county jail? No, per the present plan, they'll be eating for 30 bucks a day and sleeping on someone's sofa. All while giving up their paychecks from work for two months. :-) This will appeal to some, and they will get tremendous benefit from it. But here's a riddle for you. I remember in the past that you've been a big proponent of the the TMO can't spend its capital because it needs it for the future. So explain this to me -- Maharishi's doing the Big Fear Trip again, implying that if people don't flock to this course, at their expense (albeit less expensive than some courses in the past), Dire Things are going to happen to the world. Did I get that right? Yes. Ok, so here's the quandary: if the times are so tough that there may not *BE* a future, what is the purpose of all those billions the TMO has stashed away? The TMO has always struck me as being poor. Seems to me that if *HE* believed the stuff he's saying, he'd have made some of that money available to make the room and board of this course free, He can't. Its impossible. and in fact offer to make up for at least a portion of the participants' salary. Do the math -- if we're talking a total of 3000 siddhas, at a cost of $30 a day for food, add in another $70 a day for housing, and compensate each of them who has to leave a job (say 60%, because many may be married and unworking or retired or well-to-do), say, %3000 a month for lost salary, that comes to a grand total of $1,380,000. One could make the case for that being a drop in the bucket compared to the billions that the TMO is reputed to have as assets. One could also make the case that this drop in the bucket might be worth spending if the situation is as dire as he implies, and the very future of the planet is at stake. The situation IS dire...for seekers. Or one could make the people who have been paying for such emergency courses for decades do so again. Oh, what's a person who really cares about world peace to do? Meditate and gain Self-Realization. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 LOL. Rick's his usual smartass self, but he does make a good case in the last sentence: At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. If, as was suggested here, the price is low because he's so concerned, why isn't he concerned enough to offer the course for free, and in fact compensate the people who have to leave their jobs to participate? I guess he isn't *that* concerned... To have the guru, any guru, pay for the course would be contrary to the natural order of things. The course is specifically for the seeker. To gain reward from the course, the seeker must pay something. It is just the way it is, and non-specific to TM or MMY or any other valid method of spiritual instruction. Jim, I love you dearly, but really, dude, you make a lot of assumptions about and excuses for a man you've never met. :-) Hi, the only assumption I make is that TM is a valid method of spiritual instruction, meaning that if practiced as instructed, the practitioner will gain Self-Realization quickly. Other than that, with reference to what I said above with regards to payment, I was speaking about all such methods of valid spiritual instruction, TM or non-TM. Really has nothing to do with Maharishi, other than he teaches a valid method of spiritual instruction. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip But here's a riddle for you. I remember in the past that you've been a big proponent of the the TMO can't spend its capital because it needs it for the future. So explain this to me -- Maharishi's doing the Big Fear Trip again, implying that if people don't flock to this course, at their expense (albeit less expensive than some courses in the past), Dire Things are going to happen to the world. Did I get that right? Ok, so here's the quandary: if the times are so tough that there may not *BE* a future, what is the purpose of all those billions the TMO has stashed away? Did MMY say anything about there not *being* a future? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
The World and the TM-Teachers and the Sidhas has been so generous to MMY through all the years - made it available to collect 5-6 billions Dollars. MMY has said over and over again that if you give something - you will get a good Karma. I think it would be wise of MMY to give a gift to the TM-Teachers and Sidhas, let the course be free and pay whatever they loose in work salary - it might give him a good Karma - I think he will need it. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. Oh yeah, there's a cogent comment. Does he think they'll be eating and sleeping at the local county jail? No, per the present plan, they'll be eating for 30 bucks a day and sleeping on someone's sofa. All while giving up their paychecks from work for two months. :-) This will appeal to some, and they will get tremendous benefit from it. But here's a riddle for you. I remember in the past that you've been a big proponent of the the TMO can't spend its capital because it needs it for the future. So explain this to me -- Maharishi's doing the Big Fear Trip again, implying that if people don't flock to this course, at their expense (albeit less expensive than some courses in the past), Dire Things are going to happen to the world. Did I get that right? Yes. Ok, so here's the quandary: if the times are so tough that there may not *BE* a future, what is the purpose of all those billions the TMO has stashed away? The TMO has always struck me as being poor. Seems to me that if *HE* believed the stuff he's saying, he'd have made some of that money available to make the room and board of this course free, He can't. Its impossible. and in fact offer to make up for at least a portion of the participants' salary. Do the math -- if we're talking a total of 3000 siddhas, at a cost of $30 a day for food, add in another $70 a day for housing, and compensate each of them who has to leave a job (say 60%, because many may be married and unworking or retired or well-to-do), say, %3000 a month for lost salary, that comes to a grand total of $1,380,000. One could make the case for that being a drop in the bucket compared to the billions that the TMO is reputed to have as assets. One could also make the case that this drop in the bucket might be worth spending if the situation is as dire as he implies, and the very future of the planet is at stake. The situation IS dire...for seekers. Or one could make the people who have been paying for such emergency courses for decades do so again. Oh, what's a person who really cares about world peace to do? Meditate and gain Self-Realization. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If, as was suggested here, the price is low Just as a yardstick to measure low price with, until recently I was signed up for a week-long in-residence satsang retreat. I've had to cancel because some conflicting appointments have come up (damn! the French bureaucracy!), but the cost for the whole course -- room, board, yoga classes each morning and several satsang sessions a day, conducted by the teacher herself (read, not on videotape or via a video feed) -- came to 270 Euros ($342, at today's exchange rate). That's $48.85 a day, for a private room (as opposed to sleeping on someone's sofa). Why is it so cheap? Because the teacher in question wants it that way, and isn't making a profit... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Jim, I love you dearly, but really, dude, you make a lot of assumptions about and excuses for a man you've never met. :-) Hi, the only assumption I make is that TM is a valid method of spiritual instruction, meaning that if practiced as instructed, the practitioner will gain Self-Realization quickly. I would agree with what you say, except for the last word. I would substitute, 'eventually.' Then again, in the Buddhist view, *everyone* will gain Self- Realization eventually, whether they meditate or not. :-) Other than that, with reference to what I said above with regards to payment, I was speaking about all such methods of valid spiritual instruction, TM or non-TM. You need to get out more. There are a great number of organizations that teach for free, or with their own teachers or members paying for the instruction of others. You've confused what you've been told about all spiritual traditions by Maharishi with reality. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
You beat me to these points! I was writing my own version when I saw that you had already nailed it. I would add that he might use the money he has already collected from his own people for projects that vanished after the money was collected. Not a chance, he doesn't seem to believe his own claims enough to put his follower's money where his mouth is! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gimari03 no_reply@ wrote: http://www.cultnews.com/?p=2101 At thirty bucks a day the guru's billions could fund a virtual wave of yogic flyers to cover the earth, but something tells me that if Maharishi had to personally pay for his peace plan the guru's spiritual air force would be grounded. Oh yeah, there's a cogent comment. Does he think they'll be eating and sleeping at the local county jail? No, per the present plan, they'll be eating for 30 bucks a day and sleeping on someone's sofa. All while giving up their paychecks from work for two months. :-) But here's a riddle for you. I remember in the past that you've been a big proponent of the the TMO can't spend its capital because it needs it for the future. So explain this to me -- Maharishi's doing the Big Fear Trip again, implying that if people don't flock to this course, at their expense (albeit less expensive than some courses in the past), Dire Things are going to happen to the world. Did I get that right? Ok, so here's the quandary: if the times are so tough that there may not *BE* a future, what is the purpose of all those billions the TMO has stashed away? Seems to me that if *HE* believed the stuff he's saying, he'd have made some of that money available to make the room and board of this course free, and in fact offer to make up for at least a portion of the participants' salary. Do the math -- if we're talking a total of 3000 siddhas, at a cost of $30 a day for food, add in another $70 a day for housing, and compensate each of them who has to leave a job (say 60%, because many may be married and unworking or retired or well-to-do), say, %3000 a month for lost salary, that comes to a grand total of $1,380,000. One could make the case for that being a drop in the bucket compared to the billions that the TMO is reputed to have as assets. One could also make the case that this drop in the bucket might be worth spending if the situation is as dire as he implies, and the very future of the planet is at stake. Or one could make the people who have been paying for such emergency courses for decades do so again. Oh, what's a person who really cares about world peace to do? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: If, as was suggested here, the price is low Just as a yardstick to measure low price with, until recently I was signed up for a week-long in-residence satsang retreat. I've had to cancel because some conflicting appointments have come up (damn! the French bureaucracy!), but the cost for the whole course -- room, board, yoga classes each morning and several satsang sessions a day, conducted by the teacher herself (read, not on videotape or via a video feed) -- came to 270 Euros ($342, at today's exchange rate). That's $48.85 a day, for a private room (as opposed to sleeping on someone's sofa). Why is it so cheap? Because the teacher in question wants it that way, and isn't making a profit... So, for $18 a day more, you get a private room. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: If they offered it for free, instead of at cost, they'ed run the risk of people looking for a paid vacation who wouldn't bother participating in the Yogic Flying. Don't be ridiculous; this is the TM movement. The first time anyone skipped a butt-bouncing session, the Mind Police would report them and they'd be on their way back home in an instant. I went on a Kashmir TM course in '81 or '82 for one month. I flew with the group ONCE. After determining for my own health's sake that to fly on the flee-infested used mattresses that the TMO had bought and brought to the course would make me sick, I never went to group flying again. My buddies and I spent the month sight-seeing, golfing (at the highest altitude course in the world, or so it was claimed), eating junk food at the local Srinegar stalls, and hiking. Good shuck and jive routine, though. Now see how well you do with the quandary I posed in a followup post to the one you're replying to... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:07 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:Ok, so here's the quandary: if the times are so tough that there may not *BE* a future, what is the purpose of all those billions the TMO has stashed away? The TMO has always struck me as being poor. Interesting illusion Jim! Did Guru Dev tell you that on one of your walks? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Jim, I love you dearly, but really, dude, you make a lot of assumptions about and excuses for a man you've never met. :-) Hi, the only assumption I make is that TM is a valid method of spiritual instruction, meaning that if practiced as instructed, the practitioner will gain Self-Realization quickly. I would agree with what you say, except for the last word. I would substitute, 'eventually.' Then again, in the Buddhist view, *everyone* will gain Self- Realization eventually, whether they meditate or not. :-) I share the Buddhist view, that's why I said 'quickly'. Other than that, with reference to what I said above with regards to payment, I was speaking about all such methods of valid spiritual instruction, TM or non-TM. You need to get out more. There are a great number of organizations that teach for free, or with their own teachers or members paying for the instruction of others. You've confused what you've been told about all spiritual traditions by Maharishi with reality. I haven't been told anything that I recall by Maharishi about this. I don't keep any of his stuff in my head, though I do read the Gita and listen to an audio tape occasionally. Come to think of it, there is almost nothing I keep in my head... Regarding payment, there is a natural 'give and take' that is strongly emphasized in any valid spiritual dynamic between a teacher and seekers. Although it is sometimes expressed as a money thing, it is really an energy thing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:07 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Ok, so here's the quandary: if the times are so tough that there may not *BE* a future, what is the purpose of all those billions the TMO has stashed away? The TMO has always struck me as being poor. Interesting illusion Jim! Did Guru Dev tell you that on one of your walks? No, I didn't, and don't, communicate with Guru Dev about such things. During the walk that you refer to, it was more instant transmission stuff- worlds of knowledge, vs discussing the finances of the TMO. The above comment is based on my perception of the TMO- they act like there is a lot of money, but I don't think there is. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: If they offered it for free, instead of at cost, they'ed run the risk of people looking for a paid vacation who wouldn't bother participating in the Yogic Flying. Don't be ridiculous; this is the TM movement. The first time anyone skipped a butt-bouncing session, the Mind Police would report them and they'd be on their way back home in an instant. I went on a Kashmir TM course in '81 or '82 for one month. I flew with the group ONCE. After determining for my own health's sake that to fly on the flee-infested used mattresses that the TMO had bought and brought to the course would make me sick, I never went to group flying again. My buddies and I spent the month sight-seeing, golfing (at the highest altitude course in the world, or so it was claimed), eating junk food at the local Srinegar stalls, and hiking. LOL. You, like me, are obviously immune to the seeing of the TM Mind Police. It's a Jedi thang: These are not the siddhas you're looking for. :-) Either that, or it's a trait you learned in St. Moritz on our siddhis course. When Alex mentioned the other day that he didn't fly until after a long period of celibacy I felt a twinge of guilt, because the night before we received the siddhis instruction I was down in town getting laid. And then I flew the first day. Go figure. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
My buddies and I spent the month sight-seeing, golfing (at the highest altitude course in the world, or so it was claimed), eating junk food at the local Srinegar stalls, and hiking. Dude, I am s turning you in to the vigilance committee! For your own good of course. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: If they offered it for free, instead of at cost, they'ed run the risk of people looking for a paid vacation who wouldn't bother participating in the Yogic Flying. Don't be ridiculous; this is the TM movement. The first time anyone skipped a butt-bouncing session, the Mind Police would report them and they'd be on their way back home in an instant. I went on a Kashmir TM course in '81 or '82 for one month. I flew with the group ONCE. After determining for my own health's sake that to fly on the flee-infested used mattresses that the TMO had bought and brought to the course would make me sick, I never went to group flying again. My buddies and I spent the month sight-seeing, golfing (at the highest altitude course in the world, or so it was claimed), eating junk food at the local Srinegar stalls, and hiking. Good shuck and jive routine, though. Now see how well you do with the quandary I posed in a followup post to the one you're replying to... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: If they offered it for free, instead of at cost, they'ed run the risk of people looking for a paid vacation who wouldn't bother participating in the Yogic Flying. Don't be ridiculous; this is the TM movement. The first time anyone skipped a butt-bouncing session, the Mind Police would report them and they'd be on their way back home in an instant. I went on a Kashmir TM course in '81 or '82 for one month. I flew with the group ONCE. After determining for my own health's sake that to fly on the flee-infested used mattresses that the TMO had bought and brought to the course would make me sick, I never went to group flying again. My buddies and I spent the month sight-seeing, golfing (at the highest altitude course in the world, or so it was claimed), eating junk food at the local Srinegar stalls, and hiking. LOL. You, like me, are obviously immune to the seeing of the TM Mind Police. It's a Jedi thang: These are not the siddhas you're looking for. :-) Either that, or it's a trait you learned in St. Moritz on our siddhis course. When Alex mentioned the other day that he didn't fly until after a long period of celibacy I felt a twinge of guilt, because the night before we received the siddhis instruction I was down in town getting laid. And then I flew the first day. Go figure. :-) Did she say this is crap? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:52 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:07 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Ok, so here's the quandary: if the times are so tough that there may not *BE* a future, what is the purpose of all those billions the TMO has stashed away? The TMO has always struck me as being poor. Interesting illusion Jim! Did Guru Dev tell you that on one of your walks? No, I didn't, and don't, communicate with Guru Dev about such things. During the walk that you refer to, it was more instant transmission stuff- worlds of knowledge, vs discussing the finances of the TMO. The above comment is based on my perception of the TMO- they act like there is a lot of money, but I don't think there is. You could be right in terms of liquidity--they have so much invested in real estate, centers and now Brahmasthans in various countries. It's not like they don't spend it, although some have claimed they fresh fund raise for these new centers with separately raised monies. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Either that, or it's a trait you learned in St. Moritz on our siddhis course. When Alex mentioned the other day that he didn't fly until after a long period of celibacy I felt a twinge of guilt, because the night before we received the siddhis instruction I was down in town getting laid. And then I flew the first day. Go figure. :-) Did she say this is crap? No. In fact, as I remember, she was having some kind of intense religious experience, because she kept shouting, Oh God. Oh God. :-) She did notice that the guys on the course didn't seem like guys. Only a few of them ever made it into town, and only a handful ever stopped and had something to drink or eat at her cafe. And when they did, most of them never noticed that she was a babe-and-a-half. I noticed. It was a long, touristless summer in a town that had few single men. I got lucky. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:52 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:07 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Ok, so here's the quandary: if the times are so tough that there may not *BE* a future, what is the purpose of all those billions the TMO has stashed away? The TMO has always struck me as being poor. Interesting illusion Jim! Did Guru Dev tell you that on one of your walks? No, I didn't, and don't, communicate with Guru Dev about such things. During the walk that you refer to, it was more instant transmission stuff- worlds of knowledge, vs discussing the finances of the TMO. The above comment is based on my perception of the TMO- they act like there is a lot of money, but I don't think there is. You could be right in terms of liquidity--they have so much invested in real estate, centers and now Brahmasthans in various countries. It's not like they don't spend it, although some have claimed they fresh fund raise for these new centers with separately raised monies. I just get the persistent feeling that there is enough to sustain operations, but not much more. The constant fund raising is necessary to keep funding operations. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You need to get out more. There are a great number of organizations that teach for free, or with their own teachers or members paying for the instruction of others. You've confused what you've been told about all spiritual traditions by Maharishi with reality. Has MMY said that all spiritual traditions charge students for instruction? I don't recall ever hearing that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When Alex mentioned the other day that he didn't fly until after a long period of celibacy I felt a twinge of guilt, because the night before we received the siddhis instruction I was down in town getting laid. And then I flew the first day. Go figure. :-) That guilt is your conscience recognizing the evil that is your penis. I suggest that, for a change, you take in some *real* spiritual knowledge and inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODkNZpay5H8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TskSLM50FY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:52 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:07 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: Ok, so here's the quandary: if the times are so tough that there may not *BE* a future, what is the purpose of all those billions the TMO has stashed away? The TMO has always struck me as being poor. Interesting illusion Jim! Did Guru Dev tell you that on one of your walks? No, I didn't, and don't, communicate with Guru Dev about such things. During the walk that you refer to, it was more instant transmission stuff- worlds of knowledge, vs discussing the finances of the TMO. The above comment is based on my perception of the TMO- they act like there is a lot of money, but I don't think there is. You could be right in terms of liquidity--they have so much invested in real estate, centers and now Brahmasthans in various countries. It's not like they don't spend it, although some have claimed they fresh fund raise for these new centers with separately raised monies. I just get the persistent feeling that there is enough to sustain operations, but not much more. The constant fund raising is necessary to keep funding operations. They blew a whole wad of money on the original pundit project, from what I can tell. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip You need to get out more. There are a great number of organizations that teach for free, or with their own teachers or members paying for the instruction of others. You've confused what you've been told about all spiritual traditions by Maharishi with reality. Has MMY said that all spiritual traditions charge students for instruction? I don't recall ever hearing that. Quite the opposite. He felt compelled at one point to justify charging money for meditation instrution. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: If they offered it for free, instead of at cost, they'ed run the risk of people looking for a paid vacation who wouldn't bother participating in the Yogic Flying. Don't be ridiculous; this is the TM movement. The first time anyone skipped a butt-bouncing session, the Mind Police would report them and they'd be on their way back home in an instant. I went on a Kashmir TM course in '81 or '82 for one month. I flew with the group ONCE. After determining for my own health's sake that to fly on the flee-infested used mattresses that the TMO had bought and brought to the course would make me sick, I never went to group flying again. My buddies and I spent the month sight-seeing, golfing (at the highest altitude course in the world, or so it was claimed), eating junk food at the local Srinegar stalls, and hiking. LOL. You, like me, are obviously immune to the seeing of the TM Mind Police. It's a Jedi thang: These are not the siddhas you're looking for. :-) Either that, or it's a trait you learned in St. Moritz on our siddhis course. When Alex mentioned the other day that he didn't fly until after a long period of celibacy I felt a twinge of guilt, because the night before we received the siddhis instruction I was down in town getting laid. And then I flew the first day. Go figure. :-) I'm fascinated as to how you got away from the course: did you just up and leave? Did you walk down or take that weird looking tram beside the hotel that went down the mountain? Did anyone miss you? I think I went to town once during the whole 6 months...and then that was just at the end when we were coming down... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: When Alex mentioned the other day that he didn't fly until after a long period of celibacy I felt a twinge of guilt, because the night before we received the siddhis instruction I was down in town getting laid. And then I flew the first day. Go figure. :-) That guilt is your conscience recognizing the evil that is your penis. I suggest that, for a change, you take in some *real* spiritual knowledge and inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODkNZpay5H8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TskSLM50FY Youtube wouldn't let me see the first one without being a member, but the second was, uh, enlightening. But I'm a little worried. Now that I've been saved, do I need to dance while sitting in a chair from now on? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm fascinated as to how you got away from the course: did you just up and leave? Did you walk down or take that weird looking tram beside the hotel that went down the mountain? I walked down, and back up again before dawn. They never really locked the doors of the hotel. Plus, I had a buddy who, like me, had had it up to here with the restrictions, so when we were on walk and talk, occasionally we'd walk in a different direction from the other guys, into town. Did anyone miss you? Not once. These are not the siddhas you're looking for. I think I went to town once during the whole 6 months...and then that was just at the end when we were coming down... It was actually a nice town. That was my last TM course, and I think I knew it before I ever arrived. I had been to so many beautiful places with the TM movement and sat in hotel rooms the whole time that I'd sworn to myself that this time I wasn't going to go to one of the most beautiful towns in Switz- erland and not see it. I still made almost all of the meetings and all, no matter how excruciatingly boring it was to sit around and hear guys read the Vedas over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...sorry, I was just having a flash- back to the repetitiveness of it all. :-) It's just that by that time, and after a few run-ins with the Bliss Nazis on previous courses, I knew I wasn't going to submit to them again. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
You have outdone yourself! Thanks. BTW I think there is a stronger case that Reverend Alecia is experiencing the fist stage of flying than anyone hopping on foam! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: When Alex mentioned the other day that he didn't fly until after a long period of celibacy I felt a twinge of guilt, because the night before we received the siddhis instruction I was down in town getting laid. And then I flew the first day. Go figure. :-) That guilt is your conscience recognizing the evil that is your penis. I suggest that, for a change, you take in some *real* spiritual knowledge and inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODkNZpay5H8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TskSLM50FY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: When Alex mentioned the other day that he didn't fly until after a long period of celibacy I felt a twinge of guilt, because the night before we received the siddhis instruction I was down in town getting laid. And then I flew the first day. Go figure. :-) That guilt is your conscience recognizing the evil that is your penis. I suggest that, for a change, you take in some *real* spiritual knowledge and inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODkNZpay5H8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TskSLM50FY Youtube wouldn't let me see the first one without being a member, but the second was, uh, enlightening. But I'm a little worried. Now that I've been saved, do I need to dance while sitting in a chair from now on? :-) The first one can also be seen here: http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/spirit-of-truth.html It's some mighty fine preachin', beeyotch! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick Ross comments on MMY's latest Peace Plan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: When Alex mentioned the other day that he didn't fly until after a long period of celibacy I felt a twinge of guilt, because the night before we received the siddhis instruction I was down in town getting laid. And then I flew the first day. Go figure. :-) That guilt is your conscience recognizing the evil that is your penis. I suggest that, for a change, you take in some *real* spiritual knowledge and inspiration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODkNZpay5H8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TskSLM50FY Youtube wouldn't let me see the first one without being a member, but the second was, uh, enlightening. But I'm a little worried. Now that I've been saved, do I need to dance while sitting in a chair from now on? :-) The first one can also be seen here: http://ebaumsworld.com/2006/07/spirit-of-truth.html It's some mighty fine preachin', beeyotch! Cool, thanks. Personally, I always liked Gene Scott, who died fairly recently. He was just mind-bogglingly entertaining. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
