[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY
Has anyone busted his circuits doing "Yogic-flying" or" Yogic-bouncing".??From: "jyouells2000" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 03:31:39 -0000 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMYAmma also cautions against intense forms of pranayama. Peter, have there been instances of people blowing their circuits out doing this? None that I've heard about. Maybe its the three cycles of long, medium and short that make it easier on the body. To classify Sudarshan Kriya as 'hyperventilation' is a mischaracterisation. Is fast pranayam hyperventilation too? JohnY Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY
--- jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/14/05 10:55 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That referred specifically to the hyperventilation (Sudarshan Kriya) technique. MMY is also supposed to have said it was dangerous. There's lots of stuff about Shankar on alt.meditation.transcendental. Do a search for Ravi Shankar rather than SSRS, though. Amma also cautions against intense forms of pranayama. Peter, have there been instances of people blowing their circuits out doing this? None that I've heard about. Maybe its the three cycles of long, medium and short that make it easier on the body. To classify Sudarshan Kriya as 'hyperventilation' is a mischaracterisation. Is fast pranayam hyperventilation too? JohnY Like calling TM the mindless repetition of a meaningless sound Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/14/05 9:23 AM, L B Shriver at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As noted, Shankar had broken with the TMO sometime not long prior to 1994, so the sweet poison warning would have had to have been issued at some point in between then and 1998. 1993 at the DC course. Around that time, my friend Dean Draznin was appointed or volunteered to walk into a Ravi Shankar meeting in the DC area and read a prepared statement, written either by Maharishi or some TMO higher up (I can check with Dean if anyone really wants to know). That statement included the phrase that SSRS was offering people sugar-coated poison. I heard about this incident from Ronnie Newman, former TMer who was and still working for SSRS. She saw Dean and said hi and asked what he was doing there. When Dean tried to speak she told him not to. Dean was trying to be rude by calling SSRS, Mr. Shankar and denouncing his actions because he did not talk about his past association with the TMO. It was like when a Christian fundamentalist would show up at a TM intro lecture and speak with such great conviction about how they were right and you were wrong. The poor audience is usually left completely baffled by this display of spiritual arrogance. Sounds pretty crazy. So the beef was with SSRS supposedly not being true to his roots a la TM? Or were there specifics with regard to the sugar coated poison thing? Hell of a label by the way... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or were there specifics with regard to the sugar coated poison thing? Hell of a label by the way... Who does the poison kill? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/14/05 9:23 AM, L B Shriver at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As noted, Shankar had broken with the TMO sometime not long prior to 1994, so the sweet poison warning would have had to have been issued at some point in between then and 1998. 1993 at the DC course. Around that time, my friend Dean Draznin was appointed or volunteered to walk into a Ravi Shankar meeting in the DC area and read a prepared statement, written either by Maharishi or some TMO higher up (I can check with Dean if anyone really wants to know). That statement included the phrase that SSRS was offering people sugar-coated poison. I heard about this incident from Ronnie Newman, former TMer who was and still working for SSRS. She saw Dean and said hi and asked what he was doing there. When Dean tried to speak she told him not to. Dean was trying to be rude by calling SSRS, Mr. Shankar and denouncing his actions because he did not talk about his past association with the TMO. It was like when a Christian fundamentalist would show up at a TM intro lecture and speak with such great conviction about how they were right and you were wrong. The poor audience is usually left completely baffled by this display of spiritual arrogance. Sounds pretty crazy. So the beef was with SSRS supposedly not being true to his roots a la TM? Or were there specifics with regard to the sugar coated poison thing? Hell of a label by the way... That referred specifically to the hyperventilation (Sudarshan Kriya) technique. MMY is also supposed to have said it was dangerous. There's lots of stuff about Shankar on alt.meditation.transcendental. Do a search for Ravi Shankar rather than SSRS, though. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/14/05 9:23 AM, L B Shriver at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As noted, Shankar had broken with the TMO sometime not long prior to 1994, so the sweet poison warning would have had to have been issued at some point in between then and 1998. 1993 at the DC course. Around that time, my friend Dean Draznin was appointed or volunteered to walk into a Ravi Shankar meeting in the DC area and read a prepared statement, written either by Maharishi or some TMO higher up (I can check with Dean if anyone really wants to know). That statement included the phrase that SSRS was offering people sugar-coated poison. I heard about this incident from Ronnie Newman, former TMer who was and still working for SSRS. She saw Dean and said hi and asked what he was doing there. When Dean tried to speak she told him not to. Dean was trying to be rude by calling SSRS, Mr. Shankar and denouncing his actions because he did not talk about his past association with the TMO. It was like when a Christian fundamentalist would show up at a TM intro lecture and speak with such great conviction about how they were right and you were wrong. The poor audience is usually left completely baffled by this display of spiritual arrogance. Sounds pretty crazy. So the beef was with SSRS supposedly not being true to his roots a la TM? Or were there specifics with regard to the sugar coated poison thing? Hell of a label by the way... That referred specifically to the hyperventilation (Sudarshan Kriya) technique. MMY is also supposed to have said it was dangerous. There's lots of stuff about Shankar on alt.meditation.transcendental. Do a search for Ravi Shankar rather than SSRS, though. I've been doing Sudarshan Kriya regularly along with my TM/TM-sidhi program for 15 years now. I really enjoy the technique. It pushes prana into your body and purifies it. Some TMer's like it and some can't stand it. What I like about the Art of Living organization is SSRS and the contact I've had with him. It took me a while to let go around him because I was so used to the formality of MMY and the TMO. But he's the bee's knees! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds pretty crazy. So the beef was with SSRS supposedly not being true to his roots a la TM? Or were there specifics with regard to the sugar coated poison thing? Hell of a label by the way... Actually it's a great label. Quite the compliment from MMY in guru speak. It was never clear what Dean's beef was. My understanding was they thought SSRS was stealing TM people to join his movement or taking advantage of his former association with the TMO to get members. None of this was or is true, of course. SSRS wanted to teach Sudarshan Kriya within the TMO and asked MMY if he could. MMY told him to go out on his own to teach it. He didn't leave MMY for over a year after MMY told him this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
on 11/14/05 10:55 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That referred specifically to the hyperventilation (Sudarshan Kriya) technique. MMY is also supposed to have said it was dangerous. There's lots of stuff about Shankar on alt.meditation.transcendental. Do a search for Ravi Shankar rather than SSRS, though. Amma also cautions against intense forms of pranayama. Peter, have there been instances of people blowing their circuits out doing this? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY
Hey! Haven't heard that phrase in a long time, man. --- akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 14, 2005, at 10:32 AM, Peter wrote: I heard about this incident from Ronnie Newman, former TMer who was and still working for SSRS. She saw Dean and said hi and asked what he was doing there. When Dean tried to speak she told him not to. Dean was trying to be rude by calling SSRS, Mr. Shankar and denouncing his actions because he did not talk about his past association with the TMO. Maybe he was just saying. you are either on the bus or off the bus. http://www.hipgallery.com/photopost2/showphoto.php/photo/83944/cat/1181 (ken kesey quote) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
Initiate SSRS follower's into what? TM? --- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My new friend here said something intresting, Ravishankar would be ready to let me initiate hundreds and thousands of his followers provided a) I got an authorisation from the TM-Movement to do so and b) that the TM-Movement stopped to behave like a fanatic muslim organization- I was positively shocked and tried to get in touch with the TM-movement. No reply. From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:32:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...) I heard about this incident from Ronnie Newman, former TMer who was and still working for SSRS. She saw Dean and said hi and asked what he was doing there. When Dean tried to speak she told him not to. Dean was trying to be rude by calling SSRS, Mr. Shankar and denouncing his actions because he did not talk about his past association with the TMO. It was like when a Christian fundamentalist would show up at a TM intro lecture and speak with such great conviction about how they were right and you were wrong. The poor audience is usually left completely baffled by this display of spiritual arrogance. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/14/05 10:55 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That referred specifically to the hyperventilation (Sudarshan Kriya) technique. MMY is also supposed to have said it was dangerous. There's lots of stuff about Shankar on alt.meditation.transcendental. Do a search for Ravi Shankar rather than SSRS, though. Amma also cautions against intense forms of pranayama. Peter, have there been instances of people blowing their circuits out doing this? None that I've heard about. Maybe its the three cycles of long, medium and short that make it easier on the body. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/14/05 9:23 AM, L B Shriver at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As noted, Shankar had broken with the TMO sometime not long prior to 1994, so the sweet poison warning would have had to have been issued at some point in between then and 1998. 1993 at the DC course. Around that time, my friend Dean Draznin was appointed or volunteered to walk into a Ravi Shankar meeting in the DC area and read a prepared statement, written either by Maharishi or some TMO higher up (I can check with Dean if anyone really wants to know). That statement included the phrase that SSRS was offering people sugar-coated poison. It would be interesting to find out if this was MMY's insecurity showing through, or, say, Bevan's... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/14/05 9:23 AM, L B Shriver at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As noted, Shankar had broken with the TMO sometime not long prior to 1994, so the sweet poison warning would have had to have been issued at some point in between then and 1998. 1993 at the DC course. Around that time, my friend Dean Draznin was appointed or volunteered to walk into a Ravi Shankar meeting in the DC area and read a prepared statement, written either by Maharishi or some TMO higher up (I can check with Dean if anyone really wants to know). That statement included the phrase that SSRS was offering people sugar-coated poison. I heard about this incident from Ronnie Newman, former TMer who was and still working for SSRS. She saw Dean and said hi and asked what he was doing there. When Dean tried to speak she told him not to. Dean was trying to be rude by calling SSRS, Mr. Shankar and denouncing his actions because he did not talk about his past association with the TMO. It was like when a Christian fundamentalist would show up at a TM intro lecture and speak with such great conviction about how they were right and you were wrong. The poor audience is usually left completely baffled by this display of spiritual arrogance. Also shows poor taste, poor judgement, etc. Its a variation of street preaching, and door to door evangelism, which MMY always denounced as beneath the TMO. Very sad. Its also what the TMO and MAPI accused Andrew Skolnick of doing in their lawsuit against him. Beyond sad. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
For sure into TM. - Original Message - From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 9:19 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...) Initiate SSRS follower's into what? TM? --- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My new friend here said something intresting, Ravishankar would be ready to let me initiate hundreds and thousands of his followers provided a) I got an authorisation from the TM-Movement to do so and b) that the TM-Movement stopped to behave like a fanatic muslim organization- I was positively shocked and tried to get in touch with the TM-movement. No reply. From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:32:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...) I heard about this incident from Ronnie Newman, former TMer who was and still working for SSRS. She saw Dean and said hi and asked what he was doing there. When Dean tried to speak she told him not to. Dean was trying to be rude by calling SSRS, Mr. Shankar and denouncing his actions because he did not talk about his past association with the TMO. It was like when a Christian fundamentalist would show up at a TM intro lecture and speak with such great conviction about how they were right and you were wrong. The poor audience is usually left completely baffled by this display of spiritual arrogance. - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
I think that's exactly what he meant. From: "Peter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:19:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...) Initiate SSRS follower's into what? TM? Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds pretty crazy. So the beef was with SSRS supposedly not being true to his roots a la TM? Or were there specifics with regard to the sugar coated poison thing? Hell of a label by the way... Actually it's a great label. Quite the compliment from MMY in guru speak. So you are indicating MMY meant it to say, it is a sweet way of killing off the small self? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
SSRS already teaches a meditation technique called Sahja Samadhi Meditation. It's TM as taught in India which is slightly different than the TM taught in the US and europe. A puja is performed to Guru Dev just like in TM. It is TM. This is what makes me doubt the veracity of your friends report. --- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that's exactly what he meant. From: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2005 12:19:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...) Initiate SSRS follower's into what? TM? - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SSRS already teaches a meditation technique called Sahja Samadhi Meditation. It's TM as taught in India which is slightly different than the TM taught in the US and europe. A puja is performed to Guru Dev just like in TM. It is TM. This is what makes me doubt the veracity of your friends report. What is the difference? Ingegerd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
on 11/14/05 3:05 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SSRS already teaches a meditation technique called Sahja Samadhi Meditation. It's TM as taught in India which is slightly different than the TM taught in the US and europe. In what way is it different? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/14/05 3:05 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SSRS already teaches a meditation technique called Sahja Samadhi Meditation. It's TM as taught in India which is slightly different than the TM taught in the US and europe. In what way is it different? I have not learned it. SSRS tells TM people that if they're satisfied with their TM they should continue with that. It's like a TM advanced technique in terms of where you think the mantra. If you have this technique, you know what I'm talking about. SSRS seems to put more attention on the Sidarshan Kriya than on meditation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds pretty crazy. So the beef was with SSRS supposedly not being true to his roots a la TM? Or were there specifics with regard to the sugar coated poison thing? Hell of a label by the way... Actually it's a great label. Quite the compliment from MMY in guru speak. So you are indicating MMY meant it to say, it is a sweet way of killing off the small self? Yes. SSRS is Brahman that is very sattvic and sweet. You can have a very casual, open relationship with him. Nothing is formal at all. But That infinite consciousness will eat you up though. In my direct experience with MMY and SSRS, their darshan is vast and powerful...infinite Shiva. However, in my experience, SSRS is much more personal and actually knows you on the level of the personality. SSRS also does very specific things for you if you ask him. It's pretty amazing. SSRS has infinite respect and gratitude towards MMY and always speaks highly of him with great love and devotion in his voice. I've also heard him tell some pretty funny ashram stories. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY sold a diamond (TM) for a handful of spinach...)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds pretty crazy. So the beef was with SSRS supposedly not being true to his roots a la TM? Or were there specifics with regard to the sugar coated poison thing? Hell of a label by the way... Actually it's a great label. Quite the compliment from MMY in guru speak. So you are indicating MMY meant it to say, it is a sweet way of killing off the small self? Yes. SSRS is Brahman that is very sattvic and sweet. You can have a very casual, open relationship with him. Nothing is formal at all. But That infinite consciousness will eat you up though. In my direct experience with MMY and SSRS, their darshan is vast and powerful...infinite Shiva. However, in my experience, SSRS is much more personal and actually knows you on the level of the personality. SSRS also does very specific things for you if you ask him. It's pretty amazing. SSRS has infinite respect and gratitude towards MMY and always speaks highly of him with great love and devotion in his voice. I've also heard him tell some pretty funny ashram stories. Sounds like a great guy. Thanks for clearing that up! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY
jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a great guy. Thanks for clearing that up! http://www.webindia123.com/personal/religious/sriravi.htm Some more bio stuff Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sugar-Coated Poison: Earth turns around the sun not the other way: (How MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 11/14/05 10:55 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That referred specifically to the hyperventilation (Sudarshan Kriya) technique. MMY is also supposed to have said it was dangerous. There's lots of stuff about Shankar on alt.meditation.transcendental. Do a search for Ravi Shankar rather than SSRS, though. Amma also cautions against intense forms of pranayama. Peter, have there been instances of people blowing their circuits out doing this? None that I've heard about. Maybe its the three cycles of long, medium and short that make it easier on the body. To classify Sudarshan Kriya as 'hyperventilation' is a mischaracterisation. Is fast pranayam hyperventilation too? JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
