authfriend wrote:
> This guy is the resident troll over on alt.m.t.
>
Would you get a load of this little lady - she thinks she owns the
Internet! Usenet is unmoderated; anyone can post anything they want to.
Resident troll - that's a good one, Judy! Thanks for the compliment -
I was wondering wh
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> on 4/5/06 11:56 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't know for sure what happened, but it could have been part
> > of the
> >> power struggle, that slowly pushed everyone out, who wasn't
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
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>
> Vaj wrote:
> > Not I'm not saying that, but thanks for reminding me.
> >
> Trancenet is no longer available on the Internet.
>
*
Trancenet is no longer being updated, but all the old site is
ava
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002"
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
> wrote:
> >
> > sparaig wrote:
> > > And what have they been?
> > >
> > The only specific reference to the Marshy, low-down or otherwise,
or
> > t
on 4/5/06 2:32 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> But Maharishi doesn't have a Jackie in his life.
He had many "Jackies," as did JFK. And one of them claims to have written a
book which she'll publish after he dies.
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
> wrote:
> >
> > sparaig wrote:
> > > And what have they been?
> > >
> > The only specific reference to the Marshy, low-down or
otherwise, or
> > t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 4/5/06 11:20 AM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Vaj wrote:
> >> I was thinking of more recent material and comment like
> >> seen here over the last several years.
> >>
> > The information
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
>
> > Isn't it all pretty much on this forum and its archives,
available
> > to all and any with a computer and an internet link?
>
>
> Yes, but it is in a scattered and so
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:06 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
>
> > Maybe Wilbur takes the attitude that alot of still-practitioners-
of-
> > TM, like myself, on this forum take: the practise is the practise
> > and whether MMY is a mass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> sparaig wrote:
> > And what have they been?
> >
> The only specific reference to the Marshy, low-down or otherwise, or
> to TM research by Ken Wilber that I can find in any of Wilber's books
> or tapes is co
On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:00 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> Isn't it all pretty much on this forum and its archives, available
> to all and any with a computer and an internet link?
Yes, but it is in a scattered and somewhat disconnected fashion. What
we should have for posterity is an authentic inside
On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:06 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> Maybe Wilbur takes the attitude that alot of still-practitioners-of-
> TM, like myself, on this forum take: the practise is the practise
> and whether MMY is a mass-murderer doesn't change whether the
> practise works or not.
"Rely on the teaching
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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>
> on 4/5/06 11:56 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> I don't know for sure what happened, but it could have been part
> > of the
> >> power struggle, that slowly pushed everyone out, who wasn't
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Willy:
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> > Vaj wrote:
> > > > Surely you must be jesting, Vaj. Wilber co-
authored 'Spiritual
> > > > Choices' with Dick Anthony and you're saying that he proba
on 4/5/06 11:56 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> I don't know for sure what happened, but it could have been part
> of the
>> power struggle, that slowly pushed everyone out, who wasn't
> aligned
>> with the new administration, Bevan, and people who had come from
>> Europe, to t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Willy
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 8:15 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> > Vaj wrote:
> >
> > > What is unfortunate is that Ken really has probably never heard
> > > the 'dirty lowdown' on 'Marshy' and his movement.
> > >
> >
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>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> wrote:
> >
> > on 4/4/06 10:27 PM, bmorry2000 at bmorry2000@ wrote:
> >
> > > Insiders know they were told to leave. Aging parents provided
a
> > > public e
on 4/5/06 11:20 AM, Richard J. Williams at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Vaj wrote:
>> I was thinking of more recent material and comment like
>> seen here over the last several years.
>>
> The information here sucks, big time. If all you've got is a few
> emails from ex-Marshy skin boys, then you'
Vaj wrote:
> I was thinking of more recent material and comment like
> seen here over the last several years.
>
The information here sucks, big time. If all you've got is a few
emails from ex-Marshy skin boys, then you've really got nothing. Skin
boys don't know Jack. If insiders like Rick and M
sparaig wrote:
> They don't maintain the websites any more that I can tell.
>
Trancenet has been down for a couple of years - Minit Org (Meditation
Information Network) hasn't been updated since at least 1994. However,
Mike Doughney and John Knapp drop in every once in a while on Usenet
to try and
sparaig wrote:
> And what have they been?
>
The only specific reference to the Marshy, low-down or otherwise, or
to TM research by Ken Wilber that I can find in any of Wilber's books
or tapes is contained in his introduction to 'Spiritual Choices' -
it's in most public libraries. However, I would
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> > But Wilber hasn't made any comments lately about the Marshy - so why
> > are you opening your big pie hole and making claims that Wilber has
> > the 'low down'
On Apr 5, 2006, at 11:16 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> But Wilber hasn't made any comments lately about the Marshy - so why
> are you opening your big pie hole and making claims that Wilber has
> the 'low down' on the Marshy?
Actually I said the opposite of what you're claiming:
"What is unf
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:02 AM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > As I said, the TM-ex stuff doesn't cover any of this?
>
> Some.
>
> I was thinking of more recent material and comment like seen here
> over the last several years.
>
Vaj wrote:
> I have no plans to read it, esp. as I don't particularly
> like reading KW.
>
Well, you read it here - Wilber hasn't made any comments on the 'low
down' on the Marshy, except in his book 'Spiritual Choices'.
> He's much more enjoyable on video or recent audio.
>
Better in person.
>
Vaj wrote:
> Not I'm not saying that, but thanks for reminding me.
>
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On Apr 5, 2006, at 10:02 AM, sparaig wrote:
> As I said, the TM-ex stuff doesn't cover any of this?
Some.
I was thinking of more recent material and comment like seen here
over the last several years.
I had the impression that the TM-ex material had changed little in
years. Am I incorrect
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:59 AM, sparaig wrote:
> Hmmm, so you're saying that the TM-ex groups, among others, haven't
> maintained webpages for years on thte "inner secret dirty laundry" of
> TM and MMY and that the Wikipedia article on TM doesn't link to them?
Not I'm not saying that, but thanks for
sparaig wrote:
> As I said, the TM-ex stuff doesn't cover any of this?
>
Apparently not. I've read all of the TM-ex stuff posted on Usenet by
Lon P. Stacks, Steve Perino, John Manning, Robert Kropinsky, John
Knapp, Don Krieger, and Mike Doughney, several times, and there's no
'low down' information
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:09 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote:
>
> > I think you 2 guys mean something completely different by "lowdown".
> > I practiced TM for decades, did most every course possible, lived in
> > ffld for decades a
Hi Willy:
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> Vaj wrote:
> > > Surely you must be jesting, Vaj. Wilber co-authored 'Spiritual
> > > Choices' with Dick Anthony and you're saying that he probably
> > > never heard the 'dirty lowdown' on Marshy?
> > >
> > We don't know if he did
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Willy
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 8:15 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> > Vaj wrote:
> >
> > > What is unfortunate is that Ken really has probably never heard
> > > the 'dirty lowdown' on 'Marshy' and his movement.
> > >
> >
Vaj wrote:
> Precisely what I was trying to convey, thanks for sharing your
> own experience.
>
Mark just admitted that after decades of poking around, he still
hardly knows anything, and he lived in Fairfield for years, a town you
apparently never even visited. From what I've read, you haven't be
markmeredith2002 wrote:
> I think you 2 guys mean something completely different by
> "lowdown". I practiced TM for decades, did most every course
> possible, lived in ffld for decades and did some independent
> poking around as the kool aid wore off,
>
So, Mark, you spent almost your entire
Vaj wrote:
> > Surely you must be jesting, Vaj. Wilber co-authored 'Spiritual
> > Choices' with Dick Anthony and you're saying that he probably
> > never heard the 'dirty lowdown' on Marshy?
> >
> We don't know if he did or did not.
>
If you had read the book, you would know. Wilber mentions the '
On Apr 5, 2006, at 9:09 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote:
> I think you 2 guys mean something completely different by "lowdown".
> I practiced TM for decades, did most every course possible, lived in
> ffld for decades and did some independent poking around as the kool
> aid wore off, but still knew on
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Willy
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 8:15 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
>
> > Vaj wrote:
> >
> > > What is unfortunate is that Ken really has probably never heard
> > > the 'dirty lowdown' on 'Marshy' and his movement.
> > >
> >
Hi Willy
On Apr 5, 2006, at 8:15 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> Vaj wrote:
>
> > What is unfortunate is that Ken really has probably never heard
> > the 'dirty lowdown' on 'Marshy' and his movement.
> >
> Surely you must be jesting, Vaj. Wilber co-authored 'Spiritual
> Choices' with Dick Anthon
Vaj wrote:
> What is unfortunate is that Ken really has probably never heard
> the 'dirty lowdown' on 'Marshy' and his movement.
>
Surely you must be jesting, Vaj. Wilber co-authored 'Spiritual
Choices' with Dick Anthony and you're saying that he probably never
heard the 'dirty lowdown' on Mars
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> on 4/4/06 10:27 PM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Insiders know they were told to leave. Aging parents provided a
> > public excuse for the OJs.
>
> So why were they told to leave? (OJ's and Goldmans
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> > wrote:
[...]
> > > I always thought the TMO should publish ALL TM research -- both
> > > neg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 9:12 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:04 PM, sparaig wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > First time I've heard that Ken Wilbur ha
on 4/4/06 10:27 PM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Insiders know they were told to leave. Aging parents provided a
> public excuse for the OJs.
So why were they told to leave? (OJ's and Goldmans)
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> wrote:
> >
> > on 4/4/06 8:24 AM, bmorry2000 at bmorry2000@ wrote:
> >
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:04 PM, sparaig wrote:
> >
> > > First time I've heard that Ken Wilbur has learned TM.
> >
> > See his description of CC and TM at:
> >
> >
On Apr 4, 2006, at 9:12 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> > On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:04 PM, sparaig wrote:> > >> > First time I've heard that Ken Wilbur has learned TM.> > > See his description of CC and TM at:> > http://www.shambhalasun.com/inde
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:04 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> >
> > First time I've heard that Ken Wilbur has learned TM.
>
>
> See his description of CC and TM at:
>
> http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.php?
> option=com_content&task
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:02 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > > > Are you suggesting that TM helps in the
On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:04 PM, sparaig wrote:
>
> First time I've heard that Ken Wilbur has learned TM.
See his description of CC and TM at:
http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=2288
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On Apr 4, 2006, at 7:02 PM, sparaig wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > > Are you suggesting that TM helps in the mastering
> > > the intricacies of watercolor technique? :-)
> >
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First time I've heard that Ken Wilbur has learned TM.
He may not have learned it in the "official" manner,
but he does speak of it as though he'd practiced
something he believed was TM.
To subscribe, send a mess
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 6:40 PM, authfriend wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > > Like most of us, Ken was supportive with what he knew at first
> >
> > Well, no, "Ken" was not supportive of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:46 PM, authfriend wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > > I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to
> > > support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) res
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > Are you suggesting that TM helps in the mastering
> > the intricacies of watercolor technique? :-)
>
> It will, Vaj; it will. It will help in the
> mastery o
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> > I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to
> > support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems to be
> > wising up too--not
On Apr 4, 2006, at 6:58 PM, sparaig wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 4, 2006, at 2:47 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> >
> > > At least with oil companies and cigarette companies everyone knows
> > > it's their job to try and sell their ware
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 4/4/06 8:24 AM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits
> >
> > I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as
> > count
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 2:47 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
>
> > At least with oil companies and cigarette companies everyone knows
> > it's their job to try and sell their wares and there is that
> > implicit understanding when we se
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.trut
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 11:16 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
On Apr 4, 2006, at 6:40 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like most of us, Ken was supportive with what he knew at firstWell, no, "Ken" was not supportive of TM at first,to the contrary.Not sure what you mean. Can you quote a source? Skept
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Like most of us, Ken was supportive with what he knew at first
Well, no, "Ken" was not supportive of TM at first,
to the contrary.
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On Apr 4, 2006, at 5:45 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> > Ken also has practiced TM, so he is familiar with it in
> > terms of the spectrum of practice.
> >
> authfriend wrote:
> > Is this on the Web? Could you provide a link, please?
> >
> Don't have a link, but you might be interested in read
On Apr 4, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
> Vaj wrote:
> > I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used
> > to support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems
> > to be wising up too--not even knowing all the extent of all
> > the fallacies and chicanery.
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 2:47 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
>
> > At least with oil companies and cigarette companies everyone
> > knows
> > it's their job to try and sell their wares and there is that
> > implicit understanding when we se
> Ken also has practiced TM, so he is familiar with it in
> terms of the spectrum of practice.
>
authfriend wrote:
> Is this on the Web? Could you provide a link, please?
>
Don't have a link, but you might be interested in reading Ken Wilber's
Forward to Peter Russell's book, 'The Conciousness R
Vaj wrote:
> I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used
> to support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems
> to be wising up too--not even knowing all the extent of all
> the fallacies and chicanery.
>
>From what I've read, both of Ken Wilber's parents practice TM,
On Apr 4, 2006, at 4:53 PM, authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:46 PM, authfriend wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bmorry2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder
lawsuits
>
> I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as
> counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone
> tol
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:46 PM, authfriend wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > > I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to
> > > support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) res
On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:46 PM, authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to
> > support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems to be
> > wising up too--not even knowing all
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you suggesting that TM helps in the mastering
> the intricacies of watercolor technique? :-)
It will, Vaj; it will. It will help in the
mastery of anything you set your mind to,
whether this is an attempt to cut a plank
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm just reading some recent comments by Ken Wilber--who used to
> support TM (esp. Skip Alexander's) research. Now he seems to be
> wising up too--not even knowing all the extent of all the
> fallacies and chicanery.
Is t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 4/4/06 8:24 AM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder
lawsuits
> >
> > I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as
> > coun
on 4/4/06 8:24 AM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits
>
> I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as
> counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone
> told him to do it, you can b
On Apr 4, 2006, at 2:47 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:
> At least with oil companies and cigarette companies everyone knows
> it's their job to try and sell their wares and there is that
> implicit understanding when we see their PR propaganda.
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> But an organisation that aspires to spiritually regenera
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
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> on 4/4/06 2:10 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> >> http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm
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> > I think R
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> On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"
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> > > http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm
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> > I think Rick mentioned that
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> On Apr 4, 2006, at 11:16 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
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> > > On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
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on 4/4/06 2:10 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm
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> I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum?
I forwarded your po
On Apr 4, 2006, at 11:16 AM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> > On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" > > wrote:> > >> > > http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm> > >
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> On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"
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> > > http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm
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> > I think Rick mentioned that
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> On Apr 4, 2006, at 9:24 AM, bmorry2000 wrote:
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> > Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder
lawsuits
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> > I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as
> > counting against the TM
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> Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits
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> I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as
> counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone
> told
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"
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> > > http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm
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> > I think Rick mentioned that
On Apr 4, 2006, at 9:24 AM, bmorry2000 wrote:
> Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits
>
> I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as
> counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone
> told him to do it, you can be sure..
Let's see how the TMO gets out of the MUM campus murder lawsuits
I guess that David O.J. would not count settling out of court as
counting against the TMO. Indedependent website, my ass. Someone
told him to do it, you can be sure..Maybe to get back into the
fold, because, after all, h
On Apr 4, 2006, at 3:10 AM, shempmcgurk wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm>I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum?If so, I have some advice for him: change the name of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> http://www.truthabouttm.org//truth/Home/index.cfm
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I think Rick mentioned that Orme-Johnson sometimes visits this forum?
If so, I have some advice for him: change the name of your website,
Dave, because as soon as
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