Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-13 Thread Share Long
Judy vents and puts down and attempts to mind read. I notice that in contrast 
Jason's post on this topic said something very similar and useful about the 
topic but without venting, putting down or attempting to mind read. Go figure!





 From: authfri...@yahoo.com authfri...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:09 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
 


  
Share whines:

Judy, this is neither an academic forum nor a journalistic one. I am simply 
another poster sharing what has been helpful to me.

Was what I wrote unclear to you? Or is this your usual reality-avoidance 
behavior? Because it's a complete non sequitur. Nobody said it was an academic 
forum or a journalistic one or that you were anything but another poster.

I think I read this in the book You're Not Sick You're Thirsty.

And that's your some people in the health care industry?? A book by a quack?

It was first published many years ago so I'm not surprised that new findings 
are available.

And heaven forbid you check to see whether there are new findings rather than 
spewing out the old ones. Just too much bother, says Share to herself. 
Instead I'll cite some people in the health care industry to make myself 
sound all authoritative and all.

I notice you carefully deleted what I said about the new findings, along with 
the URL to a story about them. Think you could be just a little bit more 
dishonest, Share?

Sorry to spoil your ploy, but here's what you deleted again:

As it happens, I'm challenging you. Recent studies in the British Medical 
Journal appear to show that the notion that if you're thirsty, you're already 
dehydrated, is false. Thirst (as one might expect on the basis of common sense) 
turns out to be a finely sensitive mechanism for determining one's degree of 
hydration. It seems that the meme you repeat was started by the manufacturers 
of sports drinks (GatorAde, etc.) in an attempt to increase sales, and has now 
become common wisdom. Except that it's wrong:

http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayinhealth/are-sports-drinks-harmful-or-healthy


Scroll down to the heading Undermining a Natural Body Signal: Thirst for more.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Judy had written: 

Share, citing some people in the health industry does not give what you say 
any additional credibility, it just makes you appear to be trying too hard to 
sound as if you're well informed. If you can't give a specific reference, 
better just to say, It's my understanding that... and let yourself be 
challenged if anybody disagrees. Then go see if you can find a reference.

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-13 Thread obbajeeba
http://www.livestrong.com/article/448446-can-drinking-too-much-water-hur\
t-your-kidneys/
http://www.livestrong.com/article/448446-can-drinking-too-much-water-hu\
rt-your-kidneys/




Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-13 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
My advice Share: you don't need someone in a book to tell you when to drink a 
glass of water. Or to tell you when to pee, do you?

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-13 Thread punditster
authfriend:
 Share continues her reality-avoidance approach after having
 cited a book by a quack...

So, it's all about Share. I guess this is the point where we get up
close and personal. Go figure.

Discussion Tips:

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-13 Thread punditster
  ...pundister, whoever that is, wrote:
 
authfriend:
 You're really not aware that punditster is Richard Williams, Share?

Maybe it's time to review some of the basic rules of netiquette.

The Basic Rules of Netiquette:

1. Do not post the real names of respondents in messages without their
permission - this is considered to be a form of online snitching and
finking.

2. Do not surf to another respondent's place of employ and then post
their
personal employment details to the list - this may be considered
trollish.

3. Do not copy and paste photos of group members that you rip off the
world wide web - this may be illegal in some U.S. states.

Was this tip helpful?

Lest we forget, the Internet is there for people to do work. People
using the
network and the systems on it are doing so for a purpose, whether it be
research, development, or whatever.

'Zen and the Art of the Internet'
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_toc.html
http://www.cs.indiana.edu/docproject/zen/zen-1.0_toc.html 


RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-13 Thread Ann Woelfle Bater
Who told you how to respond? I merely indicated that I found it fascinating 
that you can't, apparently, figure out when to drink a glass of water without 
reading a book.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-12 Thread Share Long
John, rule of thumb is divide your weight by 2 and that's how many ounces of 
water you ideally drink per day. I was very motivated to do this when the temps 
were in the 90s. But now that temps are dropping, I'll have to be more 
conscious of it.
Sodas are killers! I'm so glad you stopped drinking them. 





 From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
 


  
Michelle Obama says so for better health.  I believe she's right.  A few weeks 
ago I got carried away drinking cokes without watching my weight.  I then 
realized that I ballooned by about ten pounds in a matter of weeks. 

I've been drinking more plain water and cut down my meals for about two weeks 
now, and have returned to my regular weight.  The one day fast I did last 
Saturday helped too.

http://news.yahoo.com/first-lady-wants-people-drink-more-plain-water-100616713--politics.html

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-12 Thread Bhairitu

As always: drink when thirsty, eat when hungry.

On 09/12/2013 10:20 AM, Share Long wrote:
John, rule of thumb is divide your weight by 2 and that's how many 
ounces of water you ideally drink per day. I was very motivated to do 
this when the temps were in the 90s. But now that temps are dropping, 
I'll have to be more conscious of it.

Sodas are killers! I'm so glad you stopped drinking them.



*From:* jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:14 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

Michelle Obama says so for better health.  I believe she's right.  A 
few weeks ago I got carried away drinking cokes without watching my 
weight.  I then realized that I ballooned by about ten pounds in a 
matter of weeks.


I've been drinking more plain water and cut down my meals for about 
two weeks now, and have returned to my regular weight.  The one day 
fast I did last Saturday helped too.


http://news.yahoo.com/first-lady-wants-people-drink-more-plain-water-100616713--politics.html







Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-12 Thread Mike Dixon
That's a lot of water! However, I remember when driving for UPS and drinking a 
gallon and a half of water a day, during the summer, I did sleep a lot better. 
Nice *watery* dreams,(no... not wet) as if I were swimming and floating in my 
sleep.

 


 From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
  
 
   
 
As always: drink when thirsty, eat when hungry.  On 09/12/2013 10:20 AM, Share 
Long wrote:  
  
John, rule of thumb is divide your weight by 2 and that's how many ounces of 
water you ideally drink per day. I was very motivated to do this when the 
temps were in the 90s. But now that temps are dropping, I'll have to be more 
conscious of it. Sodas are killers! I'm so glad you stopped drinking them.  

 

 


 From: mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
  
 
  
Michelle Obama says so for better health.  I believe she's right.  A few weeks 
ago I got carried away drinking cokes without watching my weight.  I then 
realized that I ballooned by about ten pounds in a matter of weeks.  

 
I've been drinking more plain water and cut down my meals for about two weeks 
now, and have returned to my regular weight.  The one day fast I did last 
Saturday helped too. 

 
http://news.yahoo.com/first-lady-wants-people-drink-more-plain-water-100616713--politics.html
   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-12 Thread Share Long
http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/propertyyou.html




 From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
 


  
That's a lot of water! However, I remember when driving for UPS and drinking a 
gallon and a half of water a day, during the summer, I did sleep a lot better. 
Nice *watery* dreams,(no... not wet) as if I were swimming and floating in my 
sleep.

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
 
  
As always: drink when thirsty, eat when hungry.  On 09/12/2013 10:20 AM, Share 
Long wrote: 
  
John, rule of thumb is divide your weight by 2 and that's how many ounces of 
water you ideally drink per day. I was very motivated to do this when the 
temps were in the 90s. But now that temps are dropping, I'll have to be more 
conscious of it.  Sodas are killers! I'm so glad you stopped drinking them. 




From: mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
 
  
Michelle Obama says so for better health.  I believe she's right.  A few weeks 
ago I got carried away drinking cokes without watching my weight.  I then 
realized that I ballooned by about ten pounds in a matter of weeks. 


I've been drinking more plain water and cut down my meals for about two weeks 
now, and have returned to my regular weight.  The one day fast I did last 
Saturday helped too.


http://news.yahoo.com/first-lady-wants-people-drink-more-plain-water-100616713--politics.html

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-12 Thread Share Long
According to this article, adult men need 3 liters per day and women need 2.2.


http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/propertyyou.html




From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water




http://http//ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/propertyyou.html



From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water




That's a lot of water! However, I remember when driving for UPS and drinking a 
gallon and a half of water a day, during the summer, I did sleep a lot better. 
Nice *watery* dreams,(no... not wet) as if I were swimming and floating in my 
sleep.

From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water


As always: drink when thirsty, eat when hungry.  On 09/12/2013 10:20 AM, Share 
Long wrote: 

John, rule of thumb is divide your weight by 2 and that's how many ounces of 
water you ideally drink per day. I was very motivated to do this when the 
temps were in the 90s. But now that temps are dropping, I'll have to be more 
conscious of it.  Sodas are killers! I'm so glad you stopped drinking them. 




From: mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com mailto:jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
 
  
Michelle Obama says so for better health.  I believe she's right.  A few weeks 
ago I got carried away drinking cokes without watching my weight.  I then 
realized that I ballooned by about ten pounds in a matter of weeks. 


I've been drinking more plain water and cut down my meals for about two weeks 
now, and have returned to my regular weight.  The one day fast I did last 
Saturday helped too.


http://news.yahoo.com/first-lady-wants-people-drink-more-plain-water-100616713--politics.html



         


Re: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-12 Thread Share Long
I agree John, I tend to drink less water on really humid days. From the 
article: According to H.H. Mitchell, Journal of Biological Chemistry 158, the 
brain and heart are composed of 73% water, and the lungs are about 83% 
water. The skin contains 64% water, muscles and kidneys are 79%, and 
even the bones are watery: 31%.




 From: jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:46 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
 


  
 Share,

That's a lot of water to drink in one day, especially when it's foggy in the 
Sunset District of SF.  Bhairitu's  idea sounds more reasonable.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


That's a lot of water! However, I remember when driving for UPS and drinking a 
gallon and a half of water a day, during the summer, I did sleep a lot better. 
Nice *watery* dreams,(no... not wet) as if I were swimming and floating in my 
sleep.

From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
 
  
As always: drink when thirsty, eat when hungry.  On 09/12/2013 10:20 AM, Share 
Long wrote: 
  
John, rule of thumb is divide your weight by 2 and that's how many ounces of 
water you ideally drink per day. I was very motivated to do this when the 
temps were in the 90s. But now that temps are dropping, I'll have to be more 
conscious of it.  Sodas are killers! I'm so glad you stopped drinking them. 




From: mailto:jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
 
  
Michelle Obama says so for better health.  I believe she's right.  A few weeks 
ago I got carried away drinking cokes without watching my weight.  I then 
realized that I ballooned by about ten pounds in a matter of weeks. 


I've been drinking more plain water and cut down my meals for about two weeks 
now, and have returned to my regular weight.  The one day fast I did last 
Saturday helped too.


http://news.yahoo.com/first-lady-wants-people-drink-more-plain-water-100616713--politics.html

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-12 Thread Bhairitu
Depends on your dosha doesn't it?  Your body will tell you unless you 
have so messed it up it doesn't even know anymore.


Published recommendations are for the masses where they assume people 
don't drink enough water, eat too much fatty food and therefore are 
overweight due to that (instead of the fact they may well be eating too 
many carbs).  And also that the majority are hypertense, pre-diabetic, etc.


On 09/12/2013 12:49 PM, Share Long wrote:
I agree John, I tend to drink less water on really humid days. From 
the article: According to H.H. Mitchell, Journal of Biological 
Chemistry 158, the brain and heart are composed of 73% water, and the 
lungs are about 83% water. The skin contains 64% water, muscles and 
kidneys are 79%, and even the bones are watery: 31%.




*From:* jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:46 PM
*Subject:* RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

 Share,

That's a lot of water to drink in one day, especially when it's foggy 
in the Sunset District of SF.  Bhairitu's  idea sounds more reasonable.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com 
wrote:


That's a lot of water! However, I remember when driving for UPS and 
drinking a gallon and a half of water a day, during the summer, I did 
sleep a lot better. Nice *watery* dreams,(no... not wet) as if I were 
swimming and floating in my sleep.


*From:* Bhairitu noozguru@...
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
As always: drink when thirsty, eat when hungry. On 09/12/2013 10:20 
AM, Share Long wrote:
John, rule of thumb is divide your weight by 2 and that's how many 
ounces of water you ideally drink per day. I was very motivated to do 
this when the temps were in the 90s. But now that temps are dropping, 
I'll have to be more conscious of it. Sodas are killers! I'm so glad 
you stopped drinking them.



*From:* mailto:jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@...
*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

*Sent:* Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:14 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water
Michelle Obama says so for better health.  I believe she's right.  A 
few weeks ago I got carried away drinking cokes without watching my 
weight.  I then realized that I ballooned by about ten pounds in a 
matter of weeks.


I've been drinking more plain water and cut down my meals for about 
two weeks now, and have returned to my regular weight.  The one day 
fast I did last Saturday helped too.


http://news.yahoo.com/first-lady-wants-people-drink-more-plain-water-100616713--politics.html








Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-12 Thread sharelong60
Judy, this is neither an academic forum nor a journalistic one. I am simply 
another poster sharing what has been helpful to me. I think I read this in the 
book You're Not Sick You're Thirsty. It was first published many years ago so 
I'm not surprised that new findings are available.



Judy had written: 
Share, citing some people in the health industry does not give what you say 
any additional credibility, it just makes you appear to be trying too hard to 
sound as if you're well informed. If you can't give a specific reference, 
better just to say, It's my understanding that... and let yourself be 
challenged if anybody disagrees. Then go see if you can find a reference.



RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Drink More Water

2013-09-12 Thread authfriend