--- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88
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Marek, Shemp, Rick, Robert ... I hope you are
right, that Guru Dev's
demise was a natural one. Still, why would such a
rumour start if
this was, indeed, the case. It is
I wasn't referring to Swarupananda, but others who were likely witnesses.On Aug 5, 2006, at 6:03 AM, Paul Mason wrote:I have already included mention of the sexual allegations in the biography, but I draw a line at the 'poisoning'. However, should RK provide me with a dub of his interview with
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on 8/5/06 6:58 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Allegedly, when MMY was asked for a reaction to the Linda Pierce
accusation that they had sex together, he is said to have advised
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on 8/5/06 10:53 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It was so long ago, but I remember being shocked that MMY was
advocating psychiatry for Linda, since I had gained the impression
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on 8/5/06 11:36 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Paul Mason
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It was so long
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on 8/4/06 5:35 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Really nice, thoughtful reply, Rick. Re the part about not wanting to disillusion people
unless they want to be disillusioned - I
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on 8/4/06 6:41 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why should that be a problem with anyone ? If it is true.
Maharishi is a
master, but I have no problem whatsover with the idea that
On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:14 AM, nablus108 wrote:Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his followers to adopt that lifestyle? Has Maharishi rescently claimed to be a life celibate? What's your source for this claim ?
Yes. I personally heard him say all those things, and still, nobody cared. :)
I don't think the reason you and others are upset has anything whatsoever to do with what country you come from. I think it has to do with the last part of your sentence--you feel betrayed. MMY not only turned out
On Aug 4, 2006, at 10:05 AM, nablus108 wrote:I don't care if these rumours are true or not. They surfaced after Muktananda and Krishnamurthi left the body also, and I don't think it really made any difference for their disciples. I think you need to look at the ex-SYDA pages. Some pretty
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on 8/4/06 8:14 AM, nablus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his
reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his
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on 8/4/06 9:17 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my case, I heard rumors in the 70's and dismissed them. But a few years later began to
wonder as more information appeared. I
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on 8/4/06 9:52 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not at all sure where you get the idea that his
reputation was based on large part on a claim to be a
life celibate. In what way
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on 8/4/06 10:00 AM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recall hearing on a course back in the early 70s' that his name did not include BAL - it
was just Bramachari Mahesh. We
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on 8/4/06 10:09 AM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gradually, everyone here seems to be remoulding their view of MMY to
conform with the whispered rumours, but personally I still
On Aug 4, 2006, at 11:19 AM, new.morning wrote:Good points, some comments interwoven. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my own case, I didn¹t for a moment take the rumors seriously, but then I never had the amount and detail of information now
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on 8/4/06 11:25 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
And
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on 8/4/06 11:28 AM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
KING: You're
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on 8/4/06 11:41 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Political schmoozing, no doubt. 2 drinks will put you over the legal limit. Was John a
regular drinker at any point in his life?
He
On Aug 4, 2006, at 12:26 PM, jyouells2000 wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:14 AM, nablus108 wrote: Did Mitterrand claim to be a life celibate, in large part base his reputation on that claim, and convince hundreds of his followers
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on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear
their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'.
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a thing, not even in 'confidence'.I’ve spoken with two. At length. They weren’t making it up.I
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on 8/4/06 1:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
M, tried to make contact
On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:59 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 1:53 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 8/4/06 12:58 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:M, tried to make contact with the so-called 'girlfriends' to hear their stories, but not a
On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I first heard from one of the people mentioned in the Sexie Sadie article who interviewed one of the women. While I have not spoken to any of the women first hand, I did talk at
On Aug 4, 2006, at 3:25 PM, Paul Mason wrote:I wouldn't want the unnessecarilly complicated karma of being a spokesmen or agent for these women making allegations against the most famous 'saint' of our age. Oh puhleeze.
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on 8/4/06 3:06 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone who sets themselves above others gets notched up the measure
of accountability and MMY is no exception. Sex and drugs
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on 8/4/06 3:33 PM, Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I do think he deserves to be treated unfairly when it comes to
scandal mongering.
OK. If you insist, well treat him unfairly,
Unless there is some reason you distrust Rick's judgement--and many firm believers *may not even believe it if they hear it from one of the women who was subjected to the spiritual incest*--it's pretty damning when someone as credible as Rick talks directly, firsthand and shares the story. This
Well I do agree, but I also think some of these are beyond rumors, some still are rumors from people much closer to the situation than any of us but impossible (possibly ever) to verify. I have no problem holding the paradox and the astonishment that those opposites provide. But I'm also not
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on 8/4/06 5:02 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unless there is some
--- nablus108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Agreed. But to gain enlightenment is faster if you
are a celibate,
and that is why Maharishi gently suggested it is
good idea not to
have sex, to make an agreement with the body.
At least for a period of time. Once CC is reached
I'm not sure
On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Paul Mason wrote:M you seem to be suggesting that since Rick has formed an opinion about MMYs sexuality that I should necessarilly trust his 'judgement', but then you go on to condemn firm believers.Well no, I think you should question everything and practice
On Aug 4, 2006, at 9:22 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Paul Mason wrote: snip And so it is with the alleged poisoning of Guru Dev, why on earth should I side with Shankaracharya Swami Swaroopanand? I never met
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on 8/4/06 7:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And, besides, what is the motive in this;
What is the motive for Maharishi to be involved with anything
negative towards Guru
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