I was just there yesterday! I live in Woodstock, but we have a place on Lake
Buckhorn.
I would say the majority of the people on this list mix their positive and
negative cats as long as they are adults and have been vaccinated. I have done
this over 10 years with no problems.
I
Hi Dede,
I just ordered it from here, I've ordered a few things from here and
have gotten everything very quickly, their prices are very competitve
with other places I've checked.
http://www.calvetsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=1252
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned
Thank you Belinda. I am off to the vet with Ki this
AM. He still has a fever of 104.5 He did eat a little
last nite and this AM, though. So, I am hoping that
it it not a big deal. The last time, I had to add
clin. to the baytril. So, i gave him a dose last
nite. I will hold off on anything
Hi Jane,
I have used both feline interferon omega, (injectable, non FDA approved,
expensive), and human interferon Alpha, (oral, easily obtained,
inexpensive). As far as I know I was the first list member to procure a
special FDA dispensation for the fio and I have to say, I was
disappointed
Hi Dede,
I'm jumping in here without having read all of your posts... You can
pick up probiotics like acidophilus at any health food store. I've been
using one marketed specifically for pets, (I get it at the health food
store too), called Petdopholus. They are tasteless and can be
I agree that the majority of the people here mix, but I never would. This is
probably because I'm a newbie to this and a doubting-Thomas of sorts, but I
just can't bring myself to expose my youngest (less than one year) since she
would be most susceptible, and I've opted not to vaccinate her
I can't remember the website where I got the FortiFlora. It didn't help
Ashley with her cow-pie poops, but all the cats love it, so I just give it
to them anyway since it must be good for them. They actually fight for the
food dishes now; it's quite funny.
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That's another thing that bothered me-they'd take the kitties in the back
for a shot or something minor like that-I thought I should be with the baby
to support them and calm them. I'm definitely going to switch vets. I found
one by my workplace, and I hear her mom has like 18 cats-sounds like a
I think that the risk of vaccination and sarcomas is so low as to be
inconsequential. I think it is really important that all cats be
vaccinated against FELV in the first year, and my vet agrees, so
that's what my rescue does, even though it adds to our cost.
It is a personal decision though,
I had heard that on the radio or something--about not needing vaccinations
every year. If I don't have to put them through the stress...I think I'll
approach my new vet about the distemper. I guess my reasoning for not
vaccinating the youngest is simply because she doesn't ever go outside. She
I had heard that on the radio or something--about not needing vaccinations
every year. If I don't have to put them through the stress...I think I'll
approach my new vet about the distemper. I guess my reasoning for not
vaccinating the youngest is simply because she doesn't ever go outside. She
My cats aren't stressed by vaccinations that I can tell. My vet is
very good and most of the time they don't know they've had a
vaccination. They don't make a peep. Would they rather not go to the
vet, probably yes, but I wnat them to have yearly checkups anyway.
I don't think there is any
I used immuno regulin on my Smokey when he was having
high fevers. The vet also gave him injections of
Winstrol every other week for about a month or maybe a
little longer. The immuno regulin helped Smokey. He
hasn't had a fever since we started him on it (fingers
crossed). I give it to him
Thanks for this link, Belinda - I just ordered some for my Phelix. They had
some other neat stuff too.
elizabeth
On 6/21/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Dede,
I just ordered it from here, I've ordered a few things from here and
have gotten everything very quickly, their prices
The risk of vaccination and sarcoma is not inconsequential.
Many veterinarians have altered their vaccination protocols to
every three years because recent studies that have indicated we are
over vaccinating our animals. In many instances one vaccination
can protect an animal for its lifetime,
Yes thanks Belinda!. I ordered FortiFlora from Pet Food Direct and was
reluctant to recommend it
because it is more expensive and the shipping takes forever.
I am giving so many supplements that I do not know what is doing what.
That we now have actual stools in
the litter box is 'big
-OK, the vet DID have FortiFlora. The girl at the
desk is not too smart.
She also told me to continue the clin. with the
baytril. The other product she sold me was called
Feline immune system support by Standard Process. I
had asked her about the IR and she said to try
something homeopathic
I lost my Felicity to vaccine-related fibro sarcoma
http://www.trentdesigns.com/elizabeth/felicity.html
They've changed the vaccine now, however...there is less risk. There is
still risk, however.
I can tell you though that with an aggressive fibro sarcoma, amputating the
paw can prolong the
Melissa,
I think you are right in keeping your young kitty away
from any FeLV + kitties. They have not fully
developed their immune systems yet.
A lot of us here do not vaccinate our indoor only
cats. I don't. I've seen some scary vaccination
reactions on this site and another I belong to,
just go and do a search for avma vaccination protocols. you'll at least
get PROFESSIONAL references. not that that means they are impartial, but at
least they're a little better than a lot that gets passed around on the
net--for example, ALL the vet schools in the country have adopted the
Inconsequential was probably a bad word to use, and I am sorry. I
am sorry for those of you who have lost cats to this disease (or to
anything else).
I have a kitty with a heart murmur and I do not vaccinate her against
anything. That's not because of the risk of cancer, though, it is
because
Hi Cindy,
I was just thinking about your Smokey and I remember
you coming here (a year ago?) and what bad shape he
was in with the fevers. It's amazing the advancements
in medicine. And Smokey possibly owes his life to the
Internet, because had you not found the info. here
regarding the IR, he
OH yes, my vet does offer the 3 year rabies vaccine, but state law
says if the owner brings the cat in a day late, he's not allowed to
give it.
So if I have a cat due 4/1 and I bring the cat in 4/2 the cat can't
ahve the vaccine, he has to have the one year one.
On 6/21/07, Kelley Saveika
Ok, here is his answer about VAS. I was freaking out because there is
so much out of date, scary stuff on the Internet.
The term Vaccine Associated Sarcomas has fallen out of favor and now
termed Injection Site Sarcoma because they now believe that it is not
the vaccine, but the actual
I have had my cats vaccinated every year but I need to
talk to my vet about it. I sure don't want to take
any chances. Have any of you heard of this new strain
of calici virus? My vet sent a letter out to all his
clients owned by cats. You have to go for a booster
then go back in 3 weeks for
This is pretty interesting. I've heard for quite a while about the 3
year protocol, but out rescue still promotes a yearly protocol
(although I don't do that). Was wondering about a good reference for
this. I checked out the newvaccinationprotocols.com below, but see a
lot of data
The new calici virus, again, I think is scare tactics.
The vaccine is made by Fort Dodge, and Ft Dodge is trying to make $
off it. They are the same ones who make the FIP vaccine. I do not
use Ft Dodge vaccines on my cats. Again, this is something my vet has
never seen a case of, no one has
On 6/21/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The new calici virus, again, I think is scare tactics.
The vaccine is made by Fort Dodge, and Ft Dodge is trying to make $
off it. They are the same ones who make the FIP vaccine. I do not
use Ft Dodge vaccines on my cats. Again, this is
Gloria,
Please consider using Merial vaccines. They are more expensive, but
much superior to Ft Dodge.
The only reference I use for vaccination is the American Association
of Feline Practitioners website, or Best Friends. Other web sites may
or may not be accurate and may or may not have a
I am so glad that I found this site. All the info. I
got was so helpful. All the wonderful people on this
site saved Smokey's life. I remember one of his old
vets was talking to me about having Smokey euthanized
but I just couldn't do that. I was so discouraged
because I didn't know what to
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.
the new calici virus is neither new, nor a virus.
like FIP, what has occurred, very infrequently, and only in hospital and
shelter environments a FEW times since first identified is a MUTATED FORM OF
ONE OF THE COMMON CALICI VIRUSES. each outbreak has
Hey Cindy,
Check out this link from the FeLV talk archives:
http://www.mail-archive.com/felvtalk@felineleukemia.org/msg28478.html
I remembered it being brought up before, and that
there was controversy surrounding it.
:)
Wendy
--- cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have had my cats
Hello, I have not been able to keep up with this list much because things have
been really chaotic in my life lately. Unfortunately, my sweet kitty Tsunade
got very sick about 7 weeks ago. Several vet trips found that she had a huge
amount of white bllood cells, so she was put on interfron
Chelsea, I am so sorry that Tsunade didn't make it. Gentle Bridge vibes
to her and hugs to you.
The leukemia virus can't survive in the open air for more than a few
seconds, and is only transmitted through things like deep bites, so you
probably don't have to worry about the condo and
http://www.caberfeidh.com/Revax.htm
This is a very thoughtful and well reasoned article about the
over vaccination problem. It is written by a dog 'person', but
her research includes felines, and the issues are the same.
Jane
Chelsea,
I remember when you first came here. You were so
eager to learn new info. and help Tsunade. I am so
sorry she lost her battle with FeLV. It must be very
hard for you. It sounds like you made the right
decision in letting her go. It's one of the last and
most selfless gifts we can
All I know is what my vet told me. I guess I am the
idiot for trusting him. I will do research about it.
I'm sorry I can't get on this site everyday to read
what people post.
Cindy Reasoner
--- MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.
the new
I hear you Cindy. Speaking for myself I think technology while truly
wonderful has also resulted in us having to work harder and longer than
ever before (I never ever want a Blackberry-type thing; I've used my
recntly-acquired cellphone ONCE)my poor brain finds it impossible to
retain
I am one of the few peope that doesn't have a computer
at home. I use my work computer. So it is difficult
for me to do alot of research. Honestly after working
on a computer all day I probably wouldn't want to get
on one when I got home.
Cindy Reasoner
--- MacKenzie, Kerry N.
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What you didn't mention is that Drs Dodds Schultz need funding for this
research. I am contributing thru a group I belong to and, unfortunately,
don't have the link any more. Perhaps someone else can provide the link on
the research and funding???
I think you can have titers run on the little one when she is older to see
what her immunity level is.I believe they are relatively
expensive compared to vaccinations but even rabies titers are accepted in
many states including Ky which is not a pet friendly state.
On Jun 21, 2007, at 4:32 PM, Marylyn wrote:
What you didn't mention is that Drs Dodds Schultz need funding for
this research. I am contributing thru a group I belong to and,
unfortunately, don't have the link any more. Perhaps someone else can
provide the link on the research and
Chelsea, Others on the list can advise you on
spreading FeLV, but I just wanted to say how sorry I
was for your loss. I remember you when I joined. You
will be able to open your heart to another furkid.
There are so many waiting to be loved by someone just
like you.
Dede
--- [EMAIL
So sorry to hear about Tsunade. I hope your grief eases. My good vet said
the same thing-that the virus can only live for a few seconds. I hope you
find the strength to get through this and take in more kitties in need.
Melissa
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subject: Re: Questions about FeLV treatments
Thank you all for your input. I've sent the information on
Immuno-Regulen to the
allopathic vet that I use. I appreciate your time and experience very
much.
Jane
On Jun 21, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Nina wrote:
Hi Jane,
I have used both feline
Is immuno-reglan or interferon and rolferon all the same thing
???
Thank you.
Sheila
Nebraska
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No they are all different -- you might want to read the felk group website as
it explains different treatment there.
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From: Sheila Coylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007
incidentally, this is written by christie keith, one of the people from
www.petconnection.com who've been on top of the pet-food recall from the
beginning, and the person who did the chat on homemade cat food that i
posted about awhile back; she does a weekly holistic pet chat at
Yes ... she is a talented woman, very conscious.
On Jun 21, 2007, at 8:46 PM, MaryChristine wrote:
incidentally, this is written by christie keith, one of the people
from www.petconnection.com who've been on top of the pet-food recall
from the beginning, and the person who did the chat on
This has been a tough week in rescue here.First Camden with Victor and now
Carolina a beautiful Dilute calico who finally found a furever home with
Camdens mom passed away today.And Keera a feisty girl who was being fostered by
one of our volunteers boyfriend also passed today.Jen sais it is
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