s the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
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From: Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 9:07:50 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
Oh my god! Great i
: Caroline Kaufmann<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: Anemia Issues
That would be very helpful because if Monkee needs another transfusion, I
can't afford to get it
ll have men who
will deal likewise with their
fellow man.
St. Francis
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From: Caroline Kaufmann
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Anemia Issues
d with my own credit card and it cost about $200, but the vet only charges $40 to give a transfusion..
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From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: Anemia Issues
OK: Here is more information to take or leave as you
ges $40 to give a
transfusion..
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From: Marylyn<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 5:45 AM
Subject: Re: Anemia Issues
OK: Here is more information to take or leave as
eal likewise with their
fellow man.
St. Francis
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From: Melissa Lind
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:06 AM
Subject: OT: RE: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
Caroline
and when I do reheat, I use my gas oven because it heats so nicely and so
fast. But there was NO WAY I was going to put chicken livers in the gas
oven (eww), so thank you so much for the tip!
-Caroline
_
From: "Marylyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemi
neleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
You would have thought of it but you are extremely stressed. That is why I
am being so detailed on some things. I know how I am when my little friends
are having problems.
w man.
St. Francis
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From: Caroline Kaufmann
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
Oh my god! Great idea! I will warm his chicken livers using a
suesDate: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 20:43:46 -0500
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From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
A thought: Check with Susan re probiotics if BMs are/become an issue. Also
- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
A thought: Check with Susan re probiotics if BMs are/become an issue. Also
Apple Pectin (ok, one for each
Issues
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From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
You will know when Monkee is ready to leave this world. It may be today or
in 10 years
up "prematurely." She also said that she's>worked with other Dr. Jones patients and the
whole>Holistic thing has never been a problem with him (so>that is good to know b/c I do like Dr. Jones as vet>and would like to return to him at some point, maybe>with another pe
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From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
You will know when Monkee is ready to leave this world. It may be today or
in 10 years. You are not God
game, I am capable of
recognizing that, but I am certainly not putting that
cat down until he's ready and I just want to be
treating with someone who supports that decision and I
feel that I am now. But it's been a bumpy ride
getting there!
-Caroline
--
will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis
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From: Caroline Kaufmann
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:35 AM
Subject: Re:TO CAROLINE
St. Francis
- Original Message -
From: Caroline Kaufmann
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:35 AM
Subject: Re:TO CAROLINE RE MONKEE: Re: Anemia Issues
Marylyn- thanks for the good advice. These are things we will work
essage -
From: Gina WN<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 3:44 AM
Subject: Re: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
Great idea about the binder!
Gina
Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PRO
FF.
If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will
: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: To Caroline: Re: Anemia Issues
Caroline, I'm in the same boat with my little Sammy. He and his two brothers
(triplets--I raised 'em from infancy with no catmommy so they are my tiny
kidlets--who knew they'd be
th their
fellow man.
St. Francis
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From: catatonya
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: Anemia Issues
Hi Caroline,
It sounds like you're doing everything you can. I'm sure by now someone
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 4:42 AM
Subject: RE: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
You're a good mom Caroline!!
You made me laugh out loud with your description of feeling weak-kneed.
:) Gina
Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:22:31 -0700
>PS. If it were me I would either find a vet who knows how to work
>with epogen or ask your vet to research it, or take research you've
>done
-
From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:46:49 -0700 (PDT)
>Hi Belinda,
>
>In response to your post below,
Hi Caroline,
It sounds like you're doing everything you can. I'm sure by now someone has
mentioned taking doxy in case it's hemobartonella. If it's not hemobart the
anemia is hard to beat, but there are people on the list who have bought 'good'
time for their cats with various methods.
Hi Caroline,
Well, considering that it is rare, but possible, for
Monkee to start making RBC's again, I would start the
Epogen today if it were my kitty. He doesn't have
time for you to wait, as transfusions buy precious but
little time, and I don't think Monkee has a shot
without something like
From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 1:05 AM
Subject: Re: To Caroline: Re: Anemia Issues
Thank you, Hideyo
"Consciousness is Causal
and Physicality is its
Manifestation."
On Jun 29, 2007, at
But he is so happy getting raw food, I think that, in and of
itself, is going to increase his "life force" ten-fold!
From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
Date: Fri, 29 Jun
ut
strated to think how big and powerful our love and bond with each
other is.. much love,
Hideyo
- Original Message -
From: Susan Dubose
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: To Caroline: Re: Anemia Issues
Wise words, Marylyn
Wow that is really interesting because the number of list cats in
the anemia group don't support anywhere near that number. I'll have to
do some more research on that. Thank you Hideyo.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable F
Bailey was getting 20mg of pred, 10 twice a day to start once his
hct was normal again we weaned him down over the course of several
weeks, he was getting 2.5mgs a day when he passed.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/
t more about using epogen, but
instead I would have used aranesp instead.
__._,_.___
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From: Belinda<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 12:44 PM
Subject:
Monkee's HCT was 13% two weeks ago (when we first went to the Vet because I knew something was wrong). That was on a Tuesday. They gave him .3 of Epogen and sent me home with a tiny bottle to give him sub-cu injections of Epogen that Thurs, and Sat. They increased his predisone (which was 5 mg-
Hideyo,
We both belong to the amenia list and the number when considering how
many cats on the list have been on it is nowhere near that high. I have
never seen this number anywhere, I have seen 30% quoted but many vets
who regularly work with epogen have said in their experience the numbe
again 30% to 50% of cats will develop antibody,
I believe this is a very high estimate, where did you get this number
Hideyo??
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com
Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com
FeLV C
PS. If it were me I would either find a vet who knows how to work with
epogen or ask your vet to research it, or take research you've done to
him and ask him to work with you. Along with the epogen a cat should be
getting blood builders, nutrived is a good source for this. It has the
iron, v
: Caroline Kaufmann<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
I am going to talk to Monkee's regular vet (Dr. Jones) about this because I
am
I am going to talk to Monkee's regular vet (Dr. Jones) about this because I am worried. And I don't like how I was pretty much told to give up on a cat that doesn't look clinically sick! What dying cat eats a human-sized portion of raw hamburger meat and chicken livers (with gusto!)?! And has en
Epogen should be given 3 times a week to start *one dose will do
nothing*, It sounds like your vet isn't familiar with how to use
epogen. It should be given 3 times a week and ONLY once the cat is in
the normal range should that number be lowered. Bailey got it 3 times a
week for about
you catch it with in 24 to 48 hours or so. thank you.
Hideyo
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From: Caroline Kaufmann<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: To Beli
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:46 AM
Subject: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
Hi Belinda,In response to your post below, I felt the need toclarify for Caroline's sake. Bailey's situationshould be considered a miracle in my book. As we haveseen too many times he
of people with experience there as well.
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From: Caroline Kaufmann<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 9:17 AM
Subject: RE: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
I talked to Dr. Susan Maier (holistic) yesterday. I was having a lot of trouble myself remaining positive and I was doing a lot of crying this week about Monkee's anemia situation. She said that Monkee's has a really strong life-force and he looks really good and I need to stay positive because t
t: To Belinda: Re: Anemia Issues
Hi Belinda,
In response to your post below, I felt the need to
clarify for Caroline's sake. Bailey's situation
should be considered a miracle in my book. As we have
seen too many times here, most cats do not respond as
Bailey did with tha
Hi Belinda,
In response to your post below, I felt the need to
clarify for Caroline's sake. Bailey's situation
should be considered a miracle in my book. As we have
seen too many times here, most cats do not respond as
Bailey did with that type of anemia; it claims the
lives of many. While I do
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: To Caroline: Re: Anemia Issues
Wise words, Marylyn...
Wise words...
Susan J. DuBose >^..^<
www.PetG
June 29, 2007 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: To Caroline: Re: Anemia Issues
Please do not grieve too much before it is timeit will take the joy
of having Sammy and the others with you now away. It is so very difficult but
try. Live each moment with the wonderful little ones. That is how t
n who
will deal likewise with their
fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message -
From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: To Caroline: Re: A
Caroline, I'm in the same boat with my little Sammy. He and his two
brothers (triplets--I raised 'em from infancy with no catmommy so
they are my tiny kidlets--who knew they'd be cats!?) were negative
for FeLV and then at nine months Sammy had really alarming big
swollen glands like--poof!
#x27;m sure he
will enjoy the extra attention, and if he is able to beat this, you will be
closer than ever.
Cassandra
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From: Caroline Kaufmann
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 11:14 AM
Subject: A
P.S. Chemo can cause anemia. I don't know if I
mentioned this or not.
:)
Wendy
--- Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
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Hi everyone. I wanted to provide an update on my FeLV
pos. and lymphosarcoma cat Monkee. He saw his Vet
yesterday to determine wh
ss I just want another opinion as to what we should do when
Monkee's transfusion "wears off."
Caroline
From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anemia Issues
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
>Hi Carolin
To Wendy and Belinda:
Monkee was done at 12:00 today, so I left work to go get him and take him back home (it's quite a drive for me, so I ended up being gone 2 hours). I didn't want him staying at the "hospital" any minute longer than necessary because he hates it there so much now. I was both
Everytime I hear this I post this, Bailey's anemia was non regenerative
and we DID reverse it.
and it is not a good anemia to have. It means the leukemia is probably active
in the bone marrow, which is, as far as I know, irreversable.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-
This is flat NOT true, when Bailey became anemic we did beat that, it
was the cancer we couldn't find that killed him, his HCT was normal for
the rest of his life once we started the epogen (5 months), it was at
33%. he was still getting epo but his dose was tapered down to once a
week and c
Gee I wonder why, cats are very smart and sensitive and something tells
me Monkee knosw this vet doesn't really care for cats (positive or
otherwise).
A funny story about this visit: Monkee totally perked up as soon as we
left Dr. Daley�s (*he hates it there!*).
--
Belinda
happiness is bei
That is *not her decision* and I would NEVER see a vet that would set
limits on how far she will go to help *my* furkid
She also said that morally, with FeLV cats, she will do 2 blood
transfusions, and then that is it. It is fighting a losing battle and
that is as far as she will take i
Epogen takes anywhere from 2 to three weeks to work and they can and
usually do go lower in the meantime. Bailey's HCT went from 20% to 15%
while we waited for the epogen to kick in it took a little over 2 weeks,
and after it started working, within 5 weeks or so he was normal again.
--
Be
I meant "mentions reticulocytes"...sorry.
:)
Wendy
--- wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Caroline,
>
> I'm sorry that Monkee's HCT count is not too good.
> I
> cried when I read your account of going to Dr.
> Maier's
> office. It felt like a rainbow bursting through the
> clouds. I loved
Hi Caroline,
I'm sorry that Monkee's HCT count is not too good. I
cried when I read your account of going to Dr. Maier's
office. It felt like a rainbow bursting through the
clouds. I loved the story about Monkee trying to get
at those cats. He sounds like a hoot.
If Monkee isn't making any RB
Hi everyone. I wanted to provide an update on my FeLV pos. and lymphosarcoma cat Monkee. He saw his Vet yesterday to determine whether the Epogen had helped his anemia. The news was very bad. Apparently last week, when the anemia started, his Red Blood cell count was 13%. After a week (& 3 do
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