Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-19 Thread Samiluke
TonyaI am so sorry. You have been through so much. Please don't blame yourself. Both of these babies at least got to leave this world loved cared for. Both Grayson his brother know that.Take care. Yvonne

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-19 Thread Kerry MacKenzie
Tonya dearest, someone else said it already I think, but from everything I know about you from our beloved list, the only thing you personally could ever smother a cat with is pure unadulterated love. I could imagine many of us including myself reacting in grief the way you are

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-19 Thread Gina WN
I add my prayers for your emotional healing and gratitude for what you did for Grayson and his brother.Ginacatatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I just woke and Grayson was dead. I think I smothered him. I think 2:30 was the last time he woke me up to be fed. I had him up by my neck but

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Nina
Oh Honey, don't say that. You didn't kill Grayson. You didn't wake up on top of him, you woke up with him lower on your body and you moved him back up. There's no way you could possibly know he stopped breathing because you suffocated him, or because he simply stopped breathing. Even if

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Tonya please don't say that you killed him,you did so much more for him than than anyone could have.catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I just woke and Grayson was dead. I think I smothered him. I think 2:30 was the last time he woke me up to be fed. I had him up by my neck but remember finding

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Kat
Oh Tonya, I'm so sorry Grayson has gone to be with his brother. Kittens are so very fragile sometimes. I'm sure he's being cared for now by Brenda and all our other angels. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, catatonya wrote: Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 02:58:42 -0700 (PDT) From: catatonya

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Lernermichelle
Tonya, kittens that young just die sometimes. You have no idea why he died. When I was young we tried to save a baby rabbit who had been pulled from the nest by a dog, uninjured; we bottle fed him, kept him warm, etc. and he seemed fine for 3 days. Then when my mom went to feed him in the

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Marylyn
Grayson left this world because it was his time to leave. He left loved and cared for, not abandoned or gassed or cold or frightened. In all likelihood he simply left in his sleep. You gave him the ability to leave this world by giving him comfort. It takes energy to leave. He needed to and

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread moonvine
You didn't kill him. Kittens die suddenly despite our best efforts and there is nothing we can do. He died knowing he was loved. That makes a difference. - Original Message - From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:59 am Subject: I killed Grayson To:

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Belinda
Tonya, In no way did you do anything to harm sweet little Grayson. He had surely already passed when you woke up and found him lower and like Nina said you weren't smothering him in any way. His mission in this life was short, to come in, know despair, then amazing love and caring

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Chris Behnke
, July 18, 2006 6:17 AM Subject: Re: I killed Grayson Oh Honey, don't say that. You didn't kill Grayson. You didn't wake up on top of him, you woke up with him lower on your body and you moved him back up. There's no way you could possibly know he stopped breathing because you suffocated him

RE: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Tonya -- Just joining in the chorus here. You have no cause to blame yourself. Please take comfort in knowing Grayson died knowing love. So many don't even have that chance. Gentle Bridge vibes for Grayson and his brother. Diane R. This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread elizamaggie
Tonya, Please don't think that! Grayson had a couple of days being fed, cuddled, and loved - something his own mother couldn't do for him. Without you he would have died alone in an abandoned house. Looking back at your posts it is obvious to see that he was not a healthy kitten to begin with.

RE: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Chris
Tonya, I dont believe that you killed himkittens, no matter how small, contend with the pile of kittens when they all nuzzle against their mom and when mom moves around.. They do get around more then you think. It was an uphill battle with Graysonhe was so very young. You did the very

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread catatonya
Thanks Nina, but I killed him. I know I did. And I know it's because I was so worried about bringing in another cat and 'wished' I didn't have that problem. So now I don't. I just feel horrible. tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Honey, don't say that. You didn't kill Grayson. You didn't wake

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread catatonya
I did kill him though. He was doing so well. I just feel horrible.tSherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonya please don't say that you killed him,you did so much more for him than than anyone could have.catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just woke and Grayson was dead. I think I

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread tamara stickler
Tonya hon...cats don't "smother" easily. If you had, I would assume there would be claw marks up one side of you ...or the sheets would be shredded. Isn't there the chance that he just passed peacefully in his sleep?I was to adopt a cat last spring. One week before I was to get him, he fell

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread tamara stickler
Tonya!If wishin' could kill someone...there'd be a hell of a lot of corpses layin' around...esp... in the work places!catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks Nina, but I killed him. I know I did. And I know it's because I was so worried about bringing in another cat and 'wished' I didn't

RE: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 10:00 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: I killed Grayson Thanks Nina, but I killed him. I know I did. And I know it's because I was so worried about bringing in another cat and 'wished' I didn't have

RE: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Chris
that they both died. Thats OK but its absolutely not your fault! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:00 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: I killed Grayson Thanks

RE: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread catatonya
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 11:00 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: I killed Grayson Thanks Nina, but I killed him. I know I did. And I know it's because I was so worried about bringing in another cat and 'wished' I

RE: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Kat
Sleep soft, dear Grayson and your tiny tabby brother too. On Tue, 18 Jul 2006, catatonya wrote: Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:27:15 -0700 (PDT) From: catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: I killed Grayson It just

RE: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread gblane
Tonya, I'm so sorry. I worry about that sometimes. One of my sick dogs rested her head on my dangling computer cables and died. I felt awful, like I needed to have her in a perfect room with no dangers. My dear beloved kitty Jacques, back in the early 1990's, was in the process of dying,

RE: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:18 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: I killed Grayson Oh Honey, don't say that. You didn't kill Grayson. You didn't wake up on top of him, you woke up with him lower

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Barb Moermond
Oh Tonya, everything that Nina said! I am so so sorry. We all know you and love you and it's OK to be sad about his passing, but please don't feel guilty.Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Honey, don't say that. You didn't kill Grayson. You didn't wake up on top of him, you woke up with him lower

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread PEC2851
Tonya, Oh sweetie, it wasn't your fault! Kittens can be so fragile and their mortality rate can seem so high. I just found outSunday what happened to 4 of the kittens I had at time of my accident. I had a beautiful, long haired mama and her 5 kittens when I had my accident. They all seemed

RE: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Helene Hand
Oh, Tonya, a truth to hold to right now is that Grayson snuggled into your loving heart for a short time and of course you deeply mourn his passing he was not an just another kitty to care for. He may have been facing months and years of medicines, pain and limitations. His lack of

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread etrent
Please don't think that. If you had deliberately set out to harm that dear one - then you might have cause to take blame. Blaming yourself in this case simply isn't appropriate. It is obvious to me that you cared very much and you made his short time here the very best that it could possibly be.

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread TenHouseCats
oh, my dearest dear: i know you can't hear all of us right now, but believe what we're all telling you: you did NOT kill grayson, you gifted him with warmth and food and safety and love. and THAT'S the only thing you smothered him with. please be gentle with yourself, and know that your role was

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread TatorBunz
Tonya, You did not kill "Grayson" sometimes we can not control what god has planned for our furbabies. Grayson and his sibling were loved and you did more than anyone else would have done for them at the time of need. He has gone to be with his sibling to a placewhere he canbe whole again.

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Kerry Roach
Tonya, I am so sorry to hear about lil Grayson.. We all know how you feel, but you didn't kill him..we all can "what if" ourselves to no end..I have done that many times, too..And I guess we never really know..You did give him love and care for the short time he was here and he knew that..I think

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Marylyn
, July 18, 2006 9:59 AM Subject: Re: I killed Grayson Thanks Nina, but I killed him. I know I did. And I know it's because I was so worried about bringing in another cat and 'wished' I didn't have that problem. So now I don't. I just feel horrible. tNina [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: I killed Grayson

2006-07-18 Thread Marylyn
with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:50 AM Subject: Re: I killed Grayson Tonya, In no way did you do