Thank you, Wendy. I don't know if the Acemannan is specifically for anemia
pe se but it seemed to help so much last time.
I am cautiously optimistic. She had several good bites of salmon last night
and this morning.
elizabeth
On 3/20/07, wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Elizabeth,
I am so
It's definitely worth a try. There's got to be a sneaky way to do it :0)
elizabeth
On 3/21/07, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Elizabeth,
She still may not like the taste, it's the vitamin B that has the
overpowering taste. Maybe you can try adding some to tuna juice, I
think the
While it may be largely a matter of personal taste, I've had a couple of very
finicky eaters who wanted to subsist on Friskies turkey prime fillets. Also,
Marie, the ultimate finicky eater, can tell the difference between Friskies
regular chicken in gravy and the senior formula/special diet
WOW! Thanks. Finksburg is only a little over and hour from me, so I might be
able to swing that. Could you give me his number and I'll call? I'm going to
call several places today and see what I can find out.
Last night...about 10:30 or so I really thought I would lose him. He was so
Dear Marissa
Sending you and Slinky healing vibes and prayers. It's great that you're
getting recommendations for a good vet relatively nearby. We're all
rooting for you and your little trooper Slinky. love and hugs, Kerry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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MJ-
I am going to get all that info. for you... Please bare w/ me, I'm
S-L-O-W. Wonder why J/K - not
I think I can even get you another rescue referral. Working on that.
I will do my best.. Promise. And, the sooner, the better, right? He is
VERY busy, but he DOES take
I have a dry food addict who became ill a couple of
months ago with a severe liver infection and lost a
lot of weight. I tried to get Boo to eat everything,
but he had absolutely no interest in any food (except
meat baby food) until I tried the new Fancy Feast
elegant medleys. He just gobbles
Hi all,
Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, has been diagnosed with
Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia. I'm really concerned about him. I feel bad
because I think I should have noticed something sooner. What information
can yall give me about this disease?
It is my understanding
I think I will try your suggestions. I am at a loss. All she wants to eat right now is dry Purina Indoor Formula. I went out and bought some real expensive dryfoods and hardly any of our cats would eat them. We were feeding Friskies Pacific Salmon, but everyone was throwing it up - it was the
My kids eat the felidae canned just fine. But I have heard other people say
their cats do not. I think it is a process of trying different things until
y ou find one they like.
Mine hear a can - any can - opening and they go nuts!
Kelley
On 3/21/07, Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
Debbie-
Well I guess it really depends on our fur babies. And believe me, I have
a ungiue crew, and that's putting it mildly...
Some will eat just about anything, but I'll focus on my persnickety
babies...
My Puma (ancient, ill w/ kitty alzheimers [EXCEPT when it comes to food] )
my cats love the fancy feast medleys too...especially the chicken and
turkey. I am trying pet gold elite and getting mixed reviews. As a snack
one of my cats loves the sheba snack cans, they aren't the full meal cans
but little snacking wet food, expensive, but worth it when the cats love it
Debbie,
Sorry, I just read about the episode w/ the Salmon Ocean
Whitefish...Guess I wasn't too much help.
But, since you want Cassie eating something other than dry only, have you
tried baby food [meat]?
Always works for me. Especially when Puma was so sick just diagnosed, he
was a
Try Shredded Friskies...Turkey and Cheese, Salmon and Cheese.
My cats devour this stuff and will begged for it.
Friskies Prime Fillets
Fancy Feast Medley
Whiskas
Buy a can of each so you can get an idea what the kitty will eat.
I have bought the expensive food in the past and it was a waste
In a message dated 3/21/07 10:57:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
sheba snack cans, they aren't the full meal cans
but little snacking wet food, expensive, but worth it when the cats love it
so much. Good luck
Jeni-
THANK YOU Your post stirred a
In a message dated 3/21/07 11:08:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whiskas
Terrie,
See? You also helped me. I also forgot about Whiskas
Hugs,
Patti her [soon to get their previous wet food!!] gang
** AOL now
Please take me off your e-mail list thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: 3/13/07 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: Thanks! sub-q fluid help
http://www.felinecrf.com/managh.htm Giving Subcutaneous (Sub-Q) Fluids
Well, with what's been going on with my life things have been very hectic
and finances being a strain/stressful. I'm surprised I remember that too...lmao
I haven't replied back to anyone but feel bad for those that have lost their
furbabies to this horrible disease and other illnesses.
for anyone giving fluids regularly (for crf, etc) you can add the vitamin b
complex or whatever to the fluids--3ccs per bag. makes the fluids a rather
odd color, but the cats don't seem to mind...
i do injectible b-complex shots when necessary--it's so hard to get pills
and liquids into the
I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/
this disease...
But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it..
What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying
around, sleeping alot.
So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated
Hi,
If you no longer have the personalized email that's sent to listmembers
on the 1st of every month (allows you to quickly unsubscribe), then in
order to unsubscribe I think you need to write to:
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all the best!
Kerry
IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as
Where is this estimate from?
Also, can anyone tell me how long before onset of symtoms from the tainted
food, or how much or how little of the food might have an impact?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is estimated 1 out of every 6 is affected by these foods that will die.
Well,
He was lethargic, but there are so many reasons for that. Particularly with
an elder owner surrendered cat. He was fine at first but went downhill.
That's common thoughcould be URI, I was afraid of fatty liver..but I
took him to the vet. If I had known him well, I expect I would
http://www.petconnection.com/blog/2007/03/20/pet-food-recall-how-many-deaths/
i think that link is being updated frequently as info comes in.
i had heard the one-in-six figure from the research the company did after
the first reports came in--when they tested the foods on their test animals
and
At 07:34 AM 3/21/2007, you wrote:
Very serious. I lost my dog to it, Should rrespont to HIGH doses of Steroids,
Not just the pred type, may have a better outcome for a cat as they tolerate
steroids better than dogs, Needs GOOD vet treatment plans,
Hi all,
Joey, an owner surrendered cat I
i think that we exist in one another's lives to spark those brain-cells that
are dimming in ALL of us--and most of us have no real excuse for the
random-accessibility of our memories. we each hold different pieces of
the puzzle, and until we sit down and compare edges, things just don't fit
OhPlease don't blame yourself for anything!!!
And, an elderly Owner Surrender, boy, I've had MORE than my share of
them (One of which is my Puma, now ancient, but was approx. 12 when turned
into
a kill shelter! And, due to his age, they were going to euthanize, I
should say gas him
I always blame myself..dont' we always? If I had noticied something sooner,
maybe he'd have a better chance..how many times I have said that...
On 3/21/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OhPlease don't blame yourself for anything!!!
And, an elderly Owner Surrender, boy, I've
In a message dated 3/21/07 10:28:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
but worth it
if you need your kitty to eat.
Yes, indeed
Looks like the Fancy Feast Elegant entrees is really getting our furbabies
to eat..
Patti her gang
if you had been able to notice something sooner, you would have. we do the
best we can with the information at hand. now you know, and can act--there's
not a damned thing you can do to change anything that's gone before, except
waste time and energy that joey and the others need.. maybe part
Pardon me...this was due to the testing prior. I spoke with my Vets about
this they said it can still be used as an estimate even though this was being
tested on both cats and dogs.
Menu Foods knew this before putting it on the market.
Pet Food Tests Killed 1 in 6, FDA Says
Menu Foods
added some more pics of our 14 babies if anyone cares to look. Let me know what everyone thinks.
Debbie
http://picasaweb.google.com/justadreamer1021/MyPets
Does anyone have any idea how long after eating tainted foods that symtoms
might appear?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pardon me...this was due to the testing
prior. I spoke with my Vets about this they said it can still be used as an
estimate even though this was being tested on both cats
i think that one of the links i posted earlier--either the AVMA one or the
petconnection one speaks of that.. but i may be wrong, of course. it
would seem that whatever is going on has to be an acute thing, not a chronic
one--or it wouldn't be showing up so quickly, would it? normal kidney
I have been trying to find this out as well.
I'm assuming within a few weeks up to a few months depends on the immune
system of cats and dogs I guess.
In a message dated 3/21/2007 9:06:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Does anyone have any idea how long after
it's so confusing as to who knew what when--i know when i saw the first
report, it implied that the 10 deaths had been in the public, and that was
what prompted the recall. which does not seem to be the case at all.
i just don't want to make anything any muddier than it already is!
On
I too have a house full of finicky eaters that won't touch anything
that's priced above a $1 a can. It's very frustrating trying to
convince them that it's good for them and that mommy is sick of
purchasing expensive canned cat food to feed to the dogs. They all love
the Innova Evo dry, and
If it were food poisoning and the food was no longer being given, then I would
think that within a week or so you would be in the clear..If a cat had not
been given any of the brands on the list for several weeks, and had been eating
other things, I would think you would be safe. But I
I saw where Science Diet is doing a voluntary recall
on their Feline Savory Cuts because it was
co-manufactured by Menu Foods. I just called because
I have a dog on Hills K/D and a cat on Hills X/D. I
wanted to be sure that Menu Foods wasn't involved in
these foods in anyway. I was assured they
According to my cats, roasted turkey, baked skinless boneless chicken breasts,
and just about anything else that I might eat is very safe for them. They have
encouraged me to buy accordingly.
cindy reasoner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw where Science Diet is doing a
voluntary recall
on
Here we go.tinyurl.com/ywt5fz
While most of the animals died within a few days of eating the product,
Sundlof said he couldnt rule out the onset of symptoms several weeks after an
animal had consumed the toxin.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have been trying to find this
what's REALLY scary about that, tho, susan, is how badly the human food
sources are policed. salmonella, toxo, e-coli...
On 3/21/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to my cats, roasted turkey, baked skinless boneless chicken
breasts, and just about anything else that I
Thanks, MC.
I just talked to my vet's office -- the Acemannan is already here so we go
this afternoon for the first injection. I told them I was concerned because
I didn't see her drink water last night or this morning. They said that she
might not be thirsty for about 12 hours after the
If they are injecting into her tummy - make sure that that the vet is
very careful as my JoJo got very sick from the injection - I think it
hit the wrong spot in his tummy --
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elizabeth
trent
Sent: Wednesday, March 21,
I am so sorry to hear that about JoJo, Hideyo. Am I remembering correctly -
isn't JoJo your dog? Do you still have him?
We didn't have any problems last summer when we first started using this
drug but it does look like it could be a very tricky type of injection to
give.
elizabeth
On
Thank you for your replies. I wish I could take the chance and integrate
this kitty, but, I do TNR in my town and as a result have ended up with a
home full of non-adoptable rescues and adoptable I am trying to find homes
for and risking them is not an option. This kitty lives in the spare room
I have 10 inside tastes differ among all. But Wellness Turkey or
Wellness Chicken is way up on the list. Some will eat the Felidae
canned. Most will eat the Friskies Turkey Filets that someone else
mentioned And also PetGuard's Fish, Chicken Liver (that's one
variety not 3!)
Pam
Kelley
Here's are some pretty good articles about it:
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=AS=0C=0A=1390
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_imha.html
*the two articles above are very similar in information*
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/60205.htm
--
Most animals are getting sick right away, they are getting acute
renal failure which happens very quickly as if they were poisoned ...
and well they have been.
Symptoms include vomiting, leathargy and diarrhea. If you suspect your
pet may have eaten any of the tainted food or even if you
Your gang is gorgeous!!
--
Belinda
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Thanks Belinda. I know I am proud of them all. I appreciate you looking at
them. Most were bottle babies.
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From: Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mar 20, 2007 4:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: pics added
Your gang is gorgeous!!
--
Belinda
Hi all! First of all, I need to say again how absolutely AMAZING this list
is Thank you so much for being here and for all your support and advice.
And special thanks to Barb for IMing me (if anyone else feels like chatting,
I'm on yahoo at disablednproud77 and on aim at
Hi all! As I'm getting ready for this evening's vet appointment, I realize I
have lots of research on IR, Epogen, and Doxy...but not much on some of the
other things I've heard about on this list (namely Interferon and Acemannan).
Is Interferon something that could be helpful at this
I read a study where FOI (feline omega interferon) was used among sick
felk kitties and the study did prove that it did help even among sick
kitties. Alpha is human interferon and you give it orally - FOI is
feline interferon and you can give it as an inject able usually. You
can only get it
Interferon is basically anti-viral agent and try to attack different
virus in their body..
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo
Yamamoto
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Question: Interferon (Alpha,
Thanks Hideyo! Can you give me an idea of the cost to have it shipped from the
UK? Also, where do you order it from? Thanks!!!
MJ
Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful condition. Her vets were wonderful but the
steroids took their toll. However, my alternative vet was very helpful and
able to get the condition under control for a pretty good length of time. You
might investigate this avenue. Mai Mai left this world over
How did you confirm the diagnosis? Is it with coombs test?
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:48 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
My beautiful Mai Mai had this awful
VERY CUTE!!! :)
Debbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:body{font-family:
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#ff;color: black;} added some more pics of our 14 babies if anyone
cares to look. Let me know what everyone thinks.
Debbie
He did a cbc. wbc 21.5, mono 1.85, neu 18.44, hct 15.3, rbc 3.23, hgb 8.5,
rdw 22.3, mch 26.36, plt 731, amyl 1743, bun 48, glob 7.5, tp 10.1
He did not do a coombs test.
This is s difficult for me, but his is a 10 year old rescue/foster cat
with a life-threatening disease. My bill today
It has been so long I really don't remember. I am very sure it was whatever
the best available at the time was.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
Thank you Marylyn. He actually seems much better today than he did
yesterday, though he only had his medicines about 30 minutes ago.
I only know one alternative vet in town and she is a cardiologist. I iwll
see if I can find more.
On 3/21/07, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My beautiful
I did find an AC who does pro bono work for rescues to let me know what he
wants to do if a decision becomes necessary.
On 3/21/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Marylyn. He actually seems much better today than he did
yesterday, though he only had his medicines about 30
Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's office. The Acemannan came in
(less than 24 hours - that was very good).
I knew Mama was feeling a bit better this afternoon because she did put up
some protest about going to the vet's today. They took her temperature and
her fever is gone! She
Kelley
Here is an excellent article on AIHA. It's written for dogs but it can
probably be applied to cats as well. It's got a lot of information.
I'll see what else I can find too.
Pam
Kelley Saveika wrote:
Hi all,
Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, has been
The AC may be able to tell you what the little darling thinks would help--med
wise, food wise etc. It is amazing what critters know about their own health.
Dixie Louise had been spayed (she was a throw away with no visible scar). She
maintained, repeatedly and loudly, with several ACs I know
Here's some more links:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/9352/alphalinks.html
http://www.vin.com/proceedings/Proceedings.plx?CID=WSAVA2002PID=2599
Pam
Kelley Saveika wrote:
Hi all,
Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month, has been
diagnosed with Auto Immune Hemolytic
Anyone who wants me to forward a copy of the pDF on ALferon ( natural
interferon please let me know,,and where to get it.
Kelly Lane
Fancy Feast is always a big hit here. When they are sick they seem to
prefer the ones that are just the regular pate (not minced, grilled, or
marinated - those they just eat the gravy). Otherwise, the 'Sardines,
Shrimp and Crab in aspic' (orange label) is the hands down favorite. The
new fancy
At 03:32 PM 3/21/2007, you wrote:
wonderful!
Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's office. The Acemannan
came in (less than 24 hours - that was very good).
I knew Mama was feeling a bit better this afternoon because she did
put up some protest about going to the vet's today.
always wonderful when they get hissy about going to the vet, isn't it?
sending lots of love and GLOW to both of you, but can't talk--just noticed a
HUGE thunderstorm coming in!
On 3/21/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's office.
Thank you! And stay safe!
elizabeth
On 3/21/07, TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
always wonderful when they get hissy about going to the vet, isn't it?
sending lots of love and GLOW to both of you, but can't talk--just noticed
a HUGE thunderstorm coming in!
On 3/21/07,
Marissa - this is awesome news! (very cool screen name, by the way).
Please give your 'dad' a big hug from mehe sounds like my dad -- only
the most perfect man on the planet...
Having a vet you can trust is worth so much. I'm so very lucky that even
though my vet was trained 'Old School'
Please! Please! take me off the list way too many e-mails thanks.
Big Kisses,
Dakota Dare
I ditto this; mine LOVE the stuff!
:)
Wendy
--- Linda Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a dry food addict who became ill a couple of
months ago with a severe liver infection and lost a
lot of weight. I tried to get Boo to eat
everything,
but he had absolutely no interest in any food
Thank goodness that Mama Kitty's fever is gone! So
happy that Mama Kitty is doing better!!! I know you
are too!
:)
Wendy
--- elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mama Kitty and I just got home from the vet's
office. The Acemannan came in
(less than 24 hours - that was very good).
I
this seems to have a number of links for ongoing, up-to-date info
crosspost responsibly.
http://howl911.com/
--
Spay Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference
MaryChristine
AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892
Hi Kelley,
I'm so sorry about Joey's prognosis. Anemia is so
scary. I did a little research and humans with AIHA
use Epogen. Did your vet say whether Epogen would
help Joey?
:)
Wendy
--- Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all,
Joey, an owner surrendered cat I took in last month,
Hi all! Thanks so much for being such a fabulous support network! I have many
families in my life...and I feel like now I have a new one: my feleuk family!
lol
Took Slink to a new vet tonight - the one near my house. I was very pleased
with her! She asked if his regular diet is raw
I sure am! Thanks, Wendy.
Mama is inside now in her favorite chair. I let her sit on the porch until
past dark -- she just loves all the sights, sounds, and scents. She was an
outdoor kitty for so long...I'm assuming before she lived here and for the
longest after she took up residence here.
No, I don't think you made that word up. lol.
Necropsy means dead tissue. Or the dying of tissue.
Something like that. The only reason I know this is
because I had a breast cancer scare this past summer,
and the spot on the mammogram turned out to be
necropsied tissue, probably from an old
In a message dated 3/21/07 10:41:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did your vet say whether Epogen would
help Joey?
My Bear (RIP) was on epogen (among WAY other Rx's). At first it did
boost his PCV but AHIA is a NASTY disease, and that's putting it
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