seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens
Hi, Just when I found placement for the adult feluk positive, now three kittens need placement. The woman was going to take them to the vet to pts them, but I told her I would take them and find a home for them. They are about 8-9 weeks old and tested positive yesterday. Need help yet again. They are tabbys and very cute. I am picking them up from the lady today, I don't know if they are boys are or girls yet. I know they are a little scared, she found them in her backyard. There are actually five, but I can't take all five. She might try to find a home for the other two. Anyone out there want one, two or three kittens to add to their home. Willing to travel, food included, will spay/neutered them. Thank you Jeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline
Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens
If they are 8-9 weeks old, SNAP tests are very inaccurate. I would not even bother testing a kitten that age. They need to be retested in 6 months to see if they are actually positive or not. On 10/1/07, JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just when I found placement for the adult feluk positive, now three kittens need placement. The woman was going to take them to the vet to pts them, but I told her I would take them and find a home for them. They are about 8-9 weeks old and tested positive yesterday. Need help yet again. They are tabbys and very cute. I am picking them up from the lady today, I don't know if they are boys are or girls yet. I know they are a little scared, she found them in her backyard. There are actually five, but I can't take all five. She might try to find a home for the other two. Anyone out there want one, two or three kittens to add to their home. Willing to travel, food included, will spay/neutered them. Thank you Jeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
RE: Kitten update Take 2
The diarrhea contiunes but it's now mostly affecting Yoda. The other two will have normal poos, and then sometimes soft, cow-pie poos, but they are not having the runny, watery, sometimes mucousy diarrhea Yoda is now having. I'm just baffeled. And upset for him. I went to scoop him up yesterday and he tried to dodge me (he's wiley), so instead of getting scruff or the mid-section of his body, I got only his hind quarters and I grabbed on. Well, the poor thing simulanteously let out a baby-bird/girly squeal and also passed gas at the same time (really loudly). I thought some diarrhea may have shot out accidently (it hadn't) when I grabbed him because the passing gas noise was so loud. I felt so bad- his tummy must have been bothering him. So I immediately put him in his crate in his litter box and the poor thing immediately had really gassy, totally liquidy diarrhea. I know, it's gross, I'm sorry! I felt so bad for him. He also had to get a bath yesterday morning because his feet were all pooy from a night in the crate- his litter box was a mess, he'd had two boughts of diarrhea/cow pies thru the night- I couldn't really tell if it was diarrhea because he'd spent a lot of time burying them, hence the dirty feet. He was good for his bath tho! He's getting Immodium AD and it seems to not be working at all! But he's still status quo- eating like a piggy, drinking water, running around and playing fine. I guess I will call the Vet and see what he has to say... I myself had been sick since Tuesday the 18th!!! I only took one day off work because I thought it was just allergies/change of season, etc., so I didn't go to the Dr. because I didn't want to be put on an antibiotic that would just destroy my stomach...I pushed myself too much last weekend and ended up with laryngitis. I finally got my voice back last Wed. and thought all was well. Well, Friday at work I felt intense muscle pain and my neck hurt, I felt like I would throw up-- it was horrible. I finally just went home early and admitted to myself that I had a fever! No other symptoms besides a fever and just feeling like I might die. So I spent a miserable Fri. night freezing to death on my couch. By Sat. my fever had broke, but I still felt horrible, so it was couch-time again. I think I am all recovered now but my mom is so mad at me (for not going to the Dr.) and she says that the kitties and I are all making each other sick!-- but she's crazy! -Caroline Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:45:49 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Kitten update Take 2To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Caroline, You're post made me LOL! You're funny! I am hoping you figure out soon what's going on with your guys, because I'm betting it's what's wrong with Ensie. Keep us posted! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:34:45 PMSubject: Kitten update Take 2 I got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that (what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been off it a long time. I was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea while actually on Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox). Anyway, he said it could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not bacterial or parasites. He asked about their exposure- which is basically nill, so he was fine with that. He said it could still be giardia because that doesn't show up in a fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because giardia is like bubbles and you can see them really clearly under a microscope if you get the sample immediately-- pretty much from butt to microscope (that's what he said- not me)-- but within a few seconds, they start to burst I guess and then you can't see them. This is how he described it. I told him the diarrhea smells HORRIBLE and he said h... He wanted to know when it started and I guessed about Monday. He said that is not too much time so he isn't worried yet. He said to try giving them all Liquid Immodium AD- 1/4 teaspoon and see if that helps. If not, we will try some other things (I guess looking for giardia). I'm going to give it this weekend I guess. I have two thoughs: #1) it's a random virus that they could have picked up when we went to Sat. cat adoption day. Although I kept all mine in a separate pen and they did not meet any of the condo cats at the store, they were in the same general area and if it's possible they could get an airborne stomach virus just by being in the same area, maybe that's it? #2)
Re: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat
Gina, Take a breath and then seriously consider taking Whisper to another vet, this vet doesn't seem to have a clue. Do you have Whispers blood work results, if so can you post his HCT, RBC, HGB? Has his teeth been checked, drooling can mean bad teeth, stomach upset among other things? Bailey had teeth problems towards the end of his life and had to have all his teeth pulled, it helped get him eating again. He did fine without teeth. Teenye my negative baby girl also ate fine without teeth and she liked dry food! If you are in an area big enough, go through the phone book and call around to different vets and let them know you are looking for a new vet. Ask them to have the vet call you to ask a few questions, if they call, interview them, explain your circumstances and let them know what you are looking for in a vet. If they don't call you they aren't worth bothering with. It sounds like what Bailey was doing when he had his teeth problems, any vet should be able to spot this easily. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: FeLV Help for a 5 year old male cat
You should be able to get copies of the tests to take to any new vet or have the old vet transfer them, my guess is the old vet will want to charge a fee to do this, which is acceptable as long as it isn't ridiculous. Another thing to think about, is that if you switch vets now, the new vet will want to run all the same tests over again. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Quality Foods
I went out this weekend and purchased the Wellness Core dry and some cans of wet. Bea LOVES the wet food but wasn't all that interested in the dry. I mixed the dry kitten food she'd been eating with some of the Wellness and she still wouldn't eat it. Finally I put down a bowl of just her kitten food and she ate half the bowl, poor thing probably thought I was starving her. My husband said to just keep the mixed old kitten and new Wellness down and eventually she'll eatI'm not to sure about that. -- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:12:34 -0400 From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Engystol Quality Foods To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My cat and kittens really love the Wellness brand wet food (reccomended by my Holistic vet). And I mean they LOVE it! They eat it as if it's one of the brands like Sheba or Fancy Feast-- they just freak out over it. You can also tell it's such a high-quality food just by the look of it and the smell...some varieties, like the adult wet formula, the one that has Lobster in it-- really smells like human food...it's crazy. It's pretty expensive though. I have my one year adult cat on Wellness adult wet and Wellness Core dry- which is Wellness's new high-protein food that is trying to take account for the raw food diet and translate that, as best it can, into a dry cat food. I have had this one year old cat since the end of July and she came to me (as a two-time owner surrender) as skinny, frail, tiny necked, underweight more than a kitten-than-a-cat. Already, she's packed on tons of muscle, but no extra weight. She's matured into an adult cat overnight almost and she's not longer skinny and wimpy-- she's tough and beefy and all filled-out, but she doesn't have an once of fat on her body. It's been really great to watch the transition and I do think it's all due to her diet, supplements and her happy home life. -Caroline Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:06:03 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Engystol Quality FoodsTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I took my little 2 year old, Bea, to a holistic/hemopathetic vet last night. He said she is doing very well and doesn't show any signs of the illness - thank God! He put her on Transfer Factor Plus (which many of you had mentioned, thank you) and also Engystol. I was wondering if anyone has heard of Engystol before or are currently using it? He also gave me a very LARGE list of better quality foods wet/dry to put her on. Does anyone have a particular brand they like over another? Pros/Cons to any brands? I also wanted to share something he said to me. We were getting ready to leave and I asked if there was anything special I should do for her? He said Yes, she doesn't know she is sick - so don't treat her like she is. I immediately burst into tears, this vet is a keeper. Thanks D Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070928/2c14d00d/attachment.html Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: Quality Foods
I forgot to type the last line asking if anyone has suggestions on how to transfer from one dry food to the next. Thanks D - Original Message From: Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 10:16:44 AM Subject: RE: Quality Foods I went out this weekend and purchased the Wellness Core dry and some cans of wet. Bea LOVES the wet food but wasn't all that interested in the dry. I mixed the dry kitten food she'd been eating with some of the Wellness and she still wouldn't eat it. Finally I put down a bowl of just her kitten food and she ate half the bowl, poor thing probably thought I was starving her. My husband said to just keep the mixed old kitten and new Wellness down and eventually she'll eatI'm not to sure about that. -- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:12:34 -0400 From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Engystol Quality Foods To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My cat and kittens really love the Wellness brand wet food (reccomended by my Holistic vet). And I mean they LOVE it! They eat it as if it's one of the brands like Sheba or Fancy Feast-- they just freak out over it. You can also tell it's such a high-quality food just by the look of it and the smell...some varieties, like the adult wet formula, the one that has Lobster in it-- really smells like human food...it's crazy. It's pretty expensive though. I have my one year adult cat on Wellness adult wet and Wellness Core dry- which is Wellness's new high-protein food that is trying to take account for the raw food diet and translate that, as best it can, into a dry cat food. I have had this one year old cat since the end of July and she came to me (as a two-time owner surrender) as skinny, frail, tiny necked, underweight more than a kitten-than-a-cat. Already, she's packed on tons of muscle, but no extra weight. She's matured into an adult cat overnight almost and she's not longer skinny and wimpy-- she's tough and beefy and all filled-out, but she doesn't have an once of fat on her body. It's been really great to watch the transition and I do think it's all due to her diet, supplements and her happy home life. -Caroline Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:06:03 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Engystol Quality FoodsTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I took my little 2 year old, Bea, to a holistic/hemopathetic vet last night. He said she is doing very well and doesn't show any signs of the illness - thank God! He put her on Transfer Factor Plus (which many of you had mentioned, thank you) and also Engystol. I was wondering if anyone has heard of Engystol before or are currently using it? He also gave me a very LARGE list of better quality foods wet/dry to put her on. Does anyone have a particular brand they like over another? Pros/Cons to any brands? I also wanted to share something he said to me. We were getting ready to leave and I asked if there was anything special I should do for her? He said Yes, she doesn't know she is sick - so don't treat her like she is. I immediately burst into tears, this vet is a keeper. Thanks D Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070928/2c14d00d/attachment.html Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: Quality Foods
Recommended: 3/4 current food and 1/4 new food for 3 days; 1/2 and 1/2 for 3 days; 1/4 current and 3/4 new for 3 days and then 100% new. My cats won't always accept a new food, even done this way. I actually take alot longer with the 1/2 1/2 before going to more of the new. Good luck. I just bought some CORE, too. I am currently feeding EVO Innova dry to some of my dry food addicts and they LOVE it. Mine ate canned Wellness turkey and salmon for yearsno grain in that one...I stopped when Frankie got pancreatitis and during the food scare (same time period). May restart it. It's a good food. L - Original Message - From: Dawn Morrison To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: Quality Foods I forgot to type the last line asking if anyone has suggestions on how to transfer from one dry food to the next. Thanks D - Original Message From: Dawn Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 10:16:44 AM Subject: RE: Quality Foods I went out this weekend and purchased the Wellness Core dry and some cans of wet. Bea LOVES the wet food but wasn't all that interested in the dry. I mixed the dry kitten food she'd been eating with some of the Wellness and she still wouldn't eat it. Finally I put down a bowl of just her kitten food and she ate half the bowl, poor thing probably thought I was starving her. My husband said to just keep the mixed old kitten and new Wellness down and eventually she'll eatI'm not to sure about that. -- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:12:34 -0400 From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Engystol Quality Foods To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My cat and kittens really love the Wellness brand wet food (reccomended by my Holistic vet). And I mean they LOVE it! They eat it as if it's one of the brands like Sheba or Fancy Feast-- they just freak out over it. You can also tell it's such a high-quality food just by the look of it and the smell...some varieties, like the adult wet formula, the one that has Lobster in it-- really smells like human food...it's crazy. It's pretty expensive though. I have my one year adult cat on Wellness adult wet and Wellness Core dry- which is Wellness's new high-protein food that is trying to take account for the raw food diet and translate that, as best it can, into a dry cat food. I have had this one year old cat since the end of July and she came to me (as a two-time owner surrender) as skinny, frail, tiny necked, underweight more than a kitten-than-a-cat. Already, she's packed on tons of muscle, but no extra weight. She's matured into an adult cat overnight almost and she's not longer skinny and wimpy-- she's tough and beefy and all filled-out, but she doesn't have an once of fat on her body. It's been really great to watch the transition and I do think it's all due to her diet, supplements and her happy home life. -Caroline Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:06:03 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Engystol Quality FoodsTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I took my little 2 year old, Bea, to a holistic/hemopathetic vet last night. He said she is doing very well and doesn't show any signs of the illness - thank God! He put her on Transfer Factor Plus (which many of you had mentioned, thank you) and also Engystol. I was wondering if anyone has heard of Engystol before or are currently using it? He also gave me a very LARGE list of better quality foods wet/dry to put her on. Does anyone have a particular brand they like over another? Pros/Cons to any brands? I also wanted to share something he said to me. We were getting ready to leave and I asked if there was anything special I should do for her? He said Yes, she doesn't know she is sick - so don't treat her like she is. I immediately burst into tears, this vet is a keeper. Thanks D Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070928/2c14d00d/attachment.html -- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. -- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: Kitten update Take 2
Caroline, This sounds so much like the problems Kitty had with food allergies and pancreas problems. I really think you need to get her checked for those items. You can do an elimination diet fairly easily. If the pancreas is causing problems you want to know it now. Take care. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:48 AM Subject: RE: Kitten update Take 2 The diarrhea contiunes but it's now mostly affecting Yoda. The other two will have normal poos, and then sometimes soft, cow-pie poos, but they are not having the runny, watery, sometimes mucousy diarrhea Yoda is now having. I'm just baffeled. And upset for him. I went to scoop him up yesterday and he tried to dodge me (he's wiley), so instead of getting scruff or the mid-section of his body, I got only his hind quarters and I grabbed on. Well, the poor thing simulanteously let out a baby-bird/girly squeal and also passed gas at the same time (really loudly). I thought some diarrhea may have shot out accidently (it hadn't) when I grabbed him because the passing gas noise was so loud. I felt so bad- his tummy must have been bothering him. So I immediately put him in his crate in his litter box and the poor thing immediately had really gassy, totally liquidy diarrhea. I know, it's gross, I'm sorry! I felt so bad for him. He also had to get a bath yesterday morning because his feet were all pooy from a night in the crate- his litter box was a mess, he'd had two boughts of diarrhea/cow pies thru the night- I couldn't really tell if it was diarrhea because he'd spent a lot of time burying them, hence the dirty feet. He was good for his bath tho! He's getting Immodium AD and it seems to not be working at all! But he's still status quo- eating like a piggy, drinking water, running around and playing fine. I guess I will call the Vet and see what he has to say... I myself had been sick since Tuesday the 18th!!! I only took one day off work because I thought it was just allergies/change of season, etc., so I didn't go to the Dr. because I didn't want to be put on an antibiotic that would just destroy my stomach...I pushed myself too much last weekend and ended up with laryngitis. I finally got my voice back last Wed. and thought all was well. Well, Friday at work I felt intense muscle pain and my neck hurt, I felt like I would throw up-- it was horrible. I finally just went home early and admitted to myself that I had a fever! No other symptoms besides a fever and just feeling like I might die. So I spent a miserable Fri. night freezing to death on my couch. By Sat. my fever had broke, but I still felt horrible, so it was couch-time again. I think I am all recovered now but my mom is so mad at me (for not going to the Dr.) and she says that the kitties and I are all making each other sick!-- but she's crazy! -Caroline Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:45:49 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Kitten update Take 2 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Caroline, You're post made me LOL! You're funny! I am hoping you figure out soon what's going on with your guys, because I'm betting it's what's wrong with Ensie. Keep us posted! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 4:34:45 PM Subject: Kitten update Take 2 I got the results of Yoda's fecal back and it's totally negative- even the flotation. Now I don't know what to do and I pretty much told the Doctor that (what do I do!?). He doesn't seem to think it's from the antibiotic. Yoda was the first started on it at Labor Day and he was on it 10 days, so he's been off it a long time. I was also surprised that none of the kittens had diarrhea while actually on Amoxy (Monkee always got soft stools when on Clavamox). Anyway, he said it could be a virus of some kind, but it's definitely not bacterial or parasites. He asked about their exposure- which is basically nill, so he was fine with that. He said it could still be giardia because that doesn't show up in a fecal-- that they need the sample immediately because giardia is like bubbles and
RE: Quality Foods
My five love the wet Wellness-won't go near the dry! And I have a couple who will eat just about anything, anytime, any way! LOL Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Quality Foods I went out this weekend and purchased the Wellness Core dry and some cans of wet. Bea LOVES the wet food but wasn't all that interested in the dry. I mixed the dry kitten food she'd been eating with some of the Wellness and she still wouldn't eat it. Finally I put down a bowl of just her kitten food and she ate half the bowl, poor thing probably thought I was starving her. My husband said to just keep the mixed old kitten and new Wellness down and eventually she'll eatI'm not to sure about that. -- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:12:34 -0400 From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Engystol Quality Foods To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My cat and kittens really love the Wellness brand wet food (reccomended by my Holistic vet). And I mean they LOVE it! They eat it as if it's one of the brands like Sheba or Fancy Feast-- they just freak out over it. You can also tell it's such a high-quality food just by the look of it and the smell...some varieties, like the adult wet formula, the one that has Lobster in it-- really smells like human food...it's crazy. It's pretty expensive though. I have my one year adult cat on Wellness adult wet and Wellness Core dry- which is Wellness's new high-protein food that is trying to take account for the raw food diet and translate that, as best it can, into a dry cat food. I have had this one year old cat since the end of July and she came to me (as a two-time owner surrender) as skinny, frail, tiny necked, underweight more than a kitten-than-a-cat. Already, she's packed on tons of muscle, but no extra weight. She's matured into an adult cat overnight almost and she's not longer skinny and wimpy-- she's tough and beefy and all filled-out, but she doesn't have an once of fat on her body. It's been really great to watch the transition and I do think it's all due to her diet, supplements and her happy home life. -Caroline Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:06:03 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Engystol Quality FoodsTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I took my little 2 year old, Bea, to a holistic/hemopathetic vet last night. He said she is doing very well and doesn't show any signs of the illness - thank God! He put her on Transfer Factor Plus (which many of you had mentioned, thank you) and also Engystol. I was wondering if anyone has heard of Engystol before or are currently using it? He also gave me a very LARGE list of better quality foods wet/dry to put her on. Does anyone have a particular brand they like over another? Pros/Cons to any brands? I also wanted to share something he said to me. We were getting ready to leave and I asked if there was anything special I should do for her? He said Yes, she doesn't know she is sick - so don't treat her like she is. I immediately burst into tears, this vet is a keeper. Thanks D Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/ 20070928/2c14d00d/attachment.html _ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48252/*http:/mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearc h?refer=1ONXIC search that gives answers, not web links.
Re: Quality Foods
Truth is...wet is better than dry because of moisture and no grains. check out this vet's site: www.catinfo.org Laurie - Original Message - From: Chris To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:55 AM Subject: RE: Quality Foods My five love the wet Wellness-won't go near the dry! And I have a couple who will eat just about anything, anytime, any way! LOL Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Quality Foods I went out this weekend and purchased the Wellness Core dry and some cans of wet. Bea LOVES the wet food but wasn't all that interested in the dry. I mixed the dry kitten food she'd been eating with some of the Wellness and she still wouldn't eat it. Finally I put down a bowl of just her kitten food and she ate half the bowl, poor thing probably thought I was starving her. My husband said to just keep the mixed old kitten and new Wellness down and eventually she'll eatI'm not to sure about that. -- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:12:34 -0400 From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Engystol Quality Foods To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My cat and kittens really love the Wellness brand wet food (reccomended by my Holistic vet). And I mean they LOVE it! They eat it as if it's one of the brands like Sheba or Fancy Feast-- they just freak out over it. You can also tell it's such a high-quality food just by the look of it and the smell...some varieties, like the adult wet formula, the one that has Lobster in it-- really smells like human food...it's crazy. It's pretty expensive though. I have my one year adult cat on Wellness adult wet and Wellness Core dry- which is Wellness's new high-protein food that is trying to take account for the raw food diet and translate that, as best it can, into a dry cat food. I have had this one year old cat since the end of July and she came to me (as a two-time owner surrender) as skinny, frail, tiny necked, underweight more than a kitten-than-a-cat. Already, she's packed on tons of muscle, but no extra weight. She's matured into an adult cat overnight almost and she's not longer skinny and wimpy-- she's tough and beefy and all filled-out, but she doesn't have an once of fat on her body. It's been really great to watch the transition and I do think it's all due to her diet, supplements and her happy home life. -Caroline Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:06:03 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Engystol Quality FoodsTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I took my little 2 year old, Bea, to a holistic/hemopathetic vet last night. He said she is doing very well and doesn't show any signs of the illness - thank God! He put her on Transfer Factor Plus (which many of you had mentioned, thank you) and also Engystol. I was wondering if anyone has heard of Engystol before or are currently using it? He also gave me a very LARGE list of better quality foods wet/dry to put her on. Does anyone have a particular brand they like over another? Pros/Cons to any brands? I also wanted to share something he said to me. We were getting ready to leave and I asked if there was anything special I should do for her? He said Yes, she doesn't know she is sick - so don't treat her like she is. I immediately burst into tears, this vet is a keeper. Thanks D Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070928/2c14d00d/attachment.html -- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.
RE: Kitten update Take 2
I talked to the Vet today and he says it could be bacterial enteritis so he had prescribed a medicine that I am picking up today to treat Yoda with. The vet says we will try that and if that doesn't clear up the diarrhea, Yoda will go in for further testing, smears, etc. So, I'm going to give it a try. Yoda is not in distress and he's still eating and playing fine-- seems to be loving life-- so as long as he feels good, I am going to stick with this game plan. It's just a little frustrating. I like to have all completely healthy kitties so I can brag! I'm just kidding...kind of. I took pictures of them this weekend, so once we get them loaded on the computer, I would like to share them. Each of the three kittens I have all have completely unique, different faces...it's beautiful and interesting to think about how they have such unique faces...which also translates into unique personalities. It's kind of scary. -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Kitten update Take 2Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:32:26 -0500 Caroline, This sounds so much like the problems Kitty had with food allergies and pancreas problems. I really think you need to get her checked for those items. You can do an elimination diet fairly easily. If the pancreas is causing problems you want to know it now. Take care. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:48 AM Subject: RE: Kitten update Take 2 The diarrhea contiunes but it's now mostly affecting Yoda. The other two will have normal poos, and then sometimes soft, cow-pie poos, but they are not having the runny, watery, sometimes mucousy diarrhea Yoda is now having. I'm just baffeled. And upset for him. I went to scoop him up yesterday and he tried to dodge me (he's wiley), so instead of getting scruff or the mid-section of his body, I got only his hind quarters and I grabbed on. Well, the poor thing simulanteously let out a baby-bird/girly squeal and also passed gas at the same time (really loudly). I thought some diarrhea may have shot out accidently (it hadn't) when I grabbed him because the passing gas noise was so loud. I felt so bad- his tummy must have been bothering him. So I immediately put him in his crate in his litter box and the poor thing immediately had really gassy, totally liquidy diarrhea. I know, it's gross, I'm sorry! I felt so bad for him. He also had to get a bath yesterday morning because his feet were all pooy from a night in the crate- his litter box was a mess, he'd had two boughts of diarrhea/cow pies thru the night- I couldn't really tell if it was diarrhea because he'd spent a lot of time burying them, hence the dirty feet. He was good for his bath tho! He's getting Immodium AD and it seems to not be working at all! But he's still status quo- eating like a piggy, drinking water, running around and playing fine. I guess I will call the Vet and see what he has to say...I myself had been sick since Tuesday the 18th!!! I only took one day off work because I thought it was just allergies/change of season, etc., so I didn't go to the Dr. because I didn't want to be put on an antibiotic that would just destroy my stomach...I pushed myself too much last weekend and ended up with laryngitis. I finally got my voice back last Wed. and thought all was well. Well, Friday at work I felt intense muscle pain and my neck hurt, I felt like I would throw up-- it was horrible. I finally just went home early and admitted to myself that I had a fever! No other symptoms besides a fever and just feeling like I might die. So I spent a miserable Fri. night freezing to death on my couch. By Sat. my fever had broke, but I still felt horrible, so it was couch-time again. I think I am all recovered now but my mom is so mad at me (for not going to the Dr.) and she says that the kitties and I are all making each other sick!-- but she's crazy! -Caroline Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 07:45:49 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Kitten update Take 2To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Caroline, You're post made me LOL! You're funny! I am hoping you figure out soon what's going on with your guys, because I'm betting it's what's wrong with Ensie. Keep us posted! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Caroline Kaufmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL
Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens
I'm sorry, I should have given a cite for this. My vet says testing cats of less than 3 months is not recommended. I can't find anything on the Internet to cooberate. Anyone hear of this before? On 10/1/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they are 8-9 weeks old, SNAP tests are very inaccurate. I would not even bother testing a kitten that age. They need to be retested in 6 months to see if they are actually positive or not. On 10/1/07, JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just when I found placement for the adult feluk positive, now three kittens need placement. The woman was going to take them to the vet to pts them, but I told her I would take them and find a home for them. They are about 8-9 weeks old and tested positive yesterday. Need help yet again. They are tabbys and very cute. I am picking them up from the lady today, I don't know if they are boys are or girls yet. I know they are a little scared, she found them in her backyard. There are actually five, but I can't take all five. She might try to find a home for the other two. Anyone out there want one, two or three kittens to add to their home. Willing to travel, food included, will spay/neutered them. Thank you Jeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens
All of the vets I have had over the years have stated this same thing re testing of kittens less than 3 months old. - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens I'm sorry, I should have given a cite for this. My vet says testing cats of less than 3 months is not recommended. I can't find anything on the Internet to cooberate. Anyone hear of this before? On 10/1/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they are 8-9 weeks old, SNAP tests are very inaccurate. I would not even bother testing a kitten that age. They need to be retested in 6 months to see if they are actually positive or not. On 10/1/07, JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just when I found placement for the adult feluk positive, now three kittens need placement. The woman was going to take them to the vet to pts them, but I told her I would take them and find a home for them. They are about 8-9 weeks old and tested positive yesterday. Need help yet again. They are tabbys and very cute. I am picking them up from the lady today, I don't know if they are boys are or girls yet. I know they are a little scared, she found them in her backyard. There are actually five, but I can't take all five. She might try to find a home for the other two. Anyone out there want one, two or three kittens to add to their home. Willing to travel, food included, will spay/neutered them. Thank you Jeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens
I haven't heard of the SNAP test being any more inclined toward false positives on young kittens when testing for feluk. I have heard that if you are testing young kittens for FIV there is a good chance of a false positive from antibodies in their mother's milk if she was positive. This usually clears away by 4 to 6 months so, testing kittens for FIV before that doesn't give a true indication. Gary - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:22 PM Subject: Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens I'm sorry, I should have given a cite for this. My vet says testing cats of less than 3 months is not recommended. I can't find anything on the Internet to cooberate. Anyone hear of this before?
RE: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens
My Tucson got a negative Elissa at 6-8 weeks 4+ years later (after being an indoor only cat), showed up positive... I've always felt there are probably a whole lot more like her out there... Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Katrina Animal Reunion Team (KART) www.findkpets.org Join Us Help Reunite Katrina-displaced Families with their Animals -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pat Kachur Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens All of the vets I have had over the years have stated this same thing re testing of kittens less than 3 months old. - Original Message - From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens I'm sorry, I should have given a cite for this. My vet says testing cats of less than 3 months is not recommended. I can't find anything on the Internet to cooberate. Anyone hear of this before? On 10/1/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they are 8-9 weeks old, SNAP tests are very inaccurate. I would not even bother testing a kitten that age. They need to be retested in 6 months to see if they are actually positive or not. On 10/1/07, JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just when I found placement for the adult feluk positive, now three kittens need placement. The woman was going to take them to the vet to pts them, but I told her I would take them and find a home for them. They are about 8-9 weeks old and tested positive yesterday. Need help yet again. They are tabbys and very cute. I am picking them up from the lady today, I don't know if they are boys are or girls yet. I know they are a little scared, she found them in her backyard. There are actually five, but I can't take all five. She might try to find a home for the other two. Anyone out there want one, two or three kittens to add to their home. Willing to travel, food included, will spay/neutered them. Thank you Jeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=w lmailtagline -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: seeking placement for three feluk positive kittens
It is a fact that many kittens that test pos at 8 weeks will test neg. at 16 weeks... Some people say 6 months to be sure but from my personal experience the test at 16 weeks is about 80% accurate A word about Jeni... She is very active in short term fostering and holding kitties until she can get them in a no kill shelter... She is probably responsible for saving more kitties from PTS in one month than most of us are in a lifetime... She probably already has both pos and neg. kitties isolated from each other in her home and what these kitties need is a home that has neither pos or neg. as they can go either way in the next few weeks This might be a great opportunity for some people who have said that they have worked with FeLV but currently don't have any to help out for just a short while to see which way they go... I believe these kitties are in the NYC, Long Island area. Tad Kelley Saveika wrote: I'm sorry, I should have given a cite for this. My vet says testing cats of less than 3 months is not recommended. I can't find anything on the Internet to cooberate. Anyone hear of this before? On 10/1/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they are 8-9 weeks old, SNAP tests are very inaccurate. I would not even bother testing a kitten that age. They need to be retested in 6 months to see if they are actually positive or not. On 10/1/07, JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just when I found placement for the adult feluk positive, now three kittens need placement. The woman was going to take them to the vet to pts them, but I told her I would take them and find a home for them. They are about 8-9 weeks old and tested positive yesterday. Need help yet again. They are tabbys and very cute. I am picking them up from the lady today, I don't know if they are boys are or girls yet. I know they are a little scared, she found them in her backyard. There are actually five, but I can't take all five. She might try to find a home for the other two. Anyone out there want one, two or three kittens to add to their home. Willing to travel, food included, will spay/neutered them. Thank you Jeni [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help George! http://rescuties.chipin.com/george I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
re: placement of three feluk positive kittens
Hi, Thank you Tad for your kind words, and yes you have my situation right. Ideally I would love to find placement for them all together in a home without cats, because there is a slight chance they could not be feluk positive at all. But I don't know anyone that could possibly do this that I know and I can't. I could hold them for a week or so but need placement. They are a bit more under socialized then I was told, hissies little kitties. Right now one of them threw up and they have diarreha(sp?) so off to the vet this week and will have them checked out. Any suggestion or help is highly appreciated. Thank you thanks again Tad, hope all the kitties are doing well. _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx
