Re: + & - cats together

[Lance]

I think most cats play best with interactive toys. Ember loves the Cat  
Charmer, and while we haven't played with it in awhile, she  liked the  
Cat Dancer, too. I also have a few pieces of elastic material that my  
mom gave me, and those work.


A cat condo with a view is a great idea.

Lance

On Feb 17, 2008, at 5:10 PM, Sue & Frank Koren wrote:


Dorothy,
Thank you for telling about Armond.  I guess that answers my  
question - they can be infected even with the vaccination.  That is  
too much risk for me and my original cats.  If one of them got sick  
I would feel horrible!
 I don't want to get another FeLV+ cat, it seems like that would  
just double the trouble, and both of them in this small room.  The  
best I can do is make this as   a place as possible for him.  I  
already have one of those donuts with a ball inside, a soft square  
he can hide in and various other cat toys.  I think I will replace  
the chair by the window with a cat condo.  Any suggestions for  
making room sweet room a fun place for Buzz to be?  The floor is  
carpeted, so things that roll across the floor don't work.

Sue
- Original Message -
From: Dorothy Noble
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 1:34 PM
Subject: + & - cats together

To Sue & Frank ~
I absolutely understand about you wanting Buzz to be with the  
others.  It is so tough to have them separated.  We brought in a  
stray a year ago and did not have her tested (but we did have her  
vaccinated).  Anyway, she was positive and exposed our others.   
Armond caught the virus but my other cat did not.  All of my animals  
were always vaccinated.  Based on my experience, I would not mix  
them.  I have had Armond since he was 4 weeks old, he has had all of  
his shots and he still tested positive from being with the other  
positive cat.
We just adopted another FeLV positive cat so Armond could have a  
friend and we had a special house built for them.  It works out great.

Dorothy

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Re: + & - cats together

[laurieskatz]

My cats love the Cat Sitter DVD. If it would work to set up a DVD player, he'd 
be entertained for hours!
http://www.thecatconnection.com/page/TCC/PROD/HOL-PET/
If that won't work, try playing a radio for him. Or even TV.
When (if) it's nice outside, an open window can entertain for hours.
L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sue & Frank Koren 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 5:10 PM
  Subject: Re: + & - cats together


  Dorothy,
  Thank you for telling about Armond.  I guess that answers my question - they 
can be infected even with the vaccination.  That is too much risk for me and my 
original cats.  If one of them got sick I would feel horrible!
   I don't want to get another FeLV+ cat, it seems like that would just double 
the trouble, and both of them in this small room.  The best I can do is make 
this as   a place as possible for him.  I already have one of those donuts with 
a ball inside, a soft square he can hide in and various other cat toys.  I 
think I will replace the chair by the window with a cat condo.  Any suggestions 
for making room sweet room a fun place for Buzz to be?  The floor is carpeted, 
so things that roll across the floor don't work.
  Sue
- Original Message - 
From: Dorothy Noble 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 1:34 PM
Subject: + & - cats together


To Sue & Frank ~
I absolutely understand about you wanting Buzz to be with the others.  It 
is so tough to have them separated.  We brought in a stray a year ago and did 
not have her tested (but we did have her vaccinated).  Anyway, she was positive 
and exposed our others.  Armond caught the virus but my other cat did not.  All 
of my animals were always vaccinated.  Based on my experience, I would not mix 
them.  I have had Armond since he was 4 weeks old, he has had all of his shots 
and he still tested positive from being with the other positive cat.  
We just adopted another FeLV positive cat so Armond could have a friend and 
we had a special house built for them.  It works out great.
Dorothy



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Re: + & - cats together

[Sue & Frank Koren]

Dorothy,
Thank you for telling about Armond.  I guess that answers my question - they 
can be infected even with the vaccination.  That is too much risk for me and my 
original cats.  If one of them got sick I would feel horrible!
 I don't want to get another FeLV+ cat, it seems like that would just double 
the trouble, and both of them in this small room.  The best I can do is make 
this asa place as possible for him.  I already have one of those donuts 
with a ball inside, a soft square he can hide in and various other cat toys.  I 
think I will replace the chair by the window with a cat condo.  Any suggestions 
for making room sweet room a fun place for Buzz to be?  The floor is carpeted, 
so things that roll across the floor don't work.
Sue
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dorothy Noble 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 1:34 PM
  Subject: + & - cats together


  To Sue & Frank ~
  I absolutely understand about you wanting Buzz to be with the others.  It is 
so tough to have them separated.  We brought in a stray a year ago and did not 
have her tested (but we did have her vaccinated).  Anyway, she was positive and 
exposed our others.  Armond caught the virus but my other cat did not.  All of 
my animals were always vaccinated.  Based on my experience, I would not mix 
them.  I have had Armond since he was 4 weeks old, he has had all of his shots 
and he still tested positive from being with the other positive cat.  
  We just adopted another FeLV positive cat so Armond could have a friend and 
we had a special house built for them.  It works out great.
  Dorothy


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Re: info about doxycycline

[Marylyn]

Try chicken broth or tuna water instead of water.
On Feb 17, 2008, at 3:37 PM, laurieskatz wrote:


Lynne, the water chaser will help get rid of the bad taste.
L
- Original Message - From: "Lynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Re:info about doxycycline


Thanks Laurie.  The vet said not to be concerned about the diarrhea  
he's
having at the moment.  If he were vomiting that would be cause for  
concern.
I squirt 1ml down his throat twice a day.  He just hates being  
forced to do
something.  I am trying to time the dosing so he has food in his  
stomach so

it isn't so hard on him.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: "laurieskatz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 3:35 PM
Subject: Re:info about doxycycline



My recollection is doxy is only in liquid form.

The following is from a discussion of feline bartonella at
http://www.jaaha.org/cgi/content/full/40/1/6
Note: dosing and side effect (diarrhea) info.
I recall it being recommended that we follow doxy with water via  
syringe.

Reasonsfor that are given here, too.

Therapy
Previous Bartonella therapeutic trials were unsuccessful in humans  
and
cats;42–44 however, recent studies have shown that long-term  
antibiotic

therapy with azithromycin, doxycycline, and rifampin have eradicated
infections in both species.45–48 AntiBartonella therapy of infected  
cats
consists of azithromycin (10 mg/kg body weight, per os [PO] given  
once

daily
for 21 days).46–48 Alternatively, doxycycline (10 mg/kg body  
weight, PO
every 12 hours for 6 weeks) or rifampin (10 mg/kg body weight, PO  
once

daily

for 21 days) can be used. Possible adverse reactions include
azithromycinintractable vomiting or diarrhea and doxycycline-induced
esophageal strictures if the capsule lodges in the esophagus; this  
can be
avoided with the administration of water following administration  
of the

doxycycline capsules.

Laurie

- Original Message -
From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Boo & medicine


>   I'm glad Boo is on the doxy, but a week is not long enough,  
it
> should be for a 3 or 4 week minimum.  The taste is disgusting,  
can you

get
> the pill form, you could put the pill in a pill pocket or empty  
capsule
> and he wouldn't even taste it.  All of my cats hate liquid meds,  
I never
> get that unless it doesn't come in anything else.  Boo is lucky  
to have

> you in his corner!!
>
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Re: Boo & medicine

[Marylyn]

My vet is 120 miles away.  He gives me frozen viles of the interferon  
+ the solution to mix it with.  I prefer to have them do the mixing so  
I pick up the premixed stuff when I am in town.  The frozen is backup.

On Feb 17, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote:

   I seem to remember my vet telling me the diluted interferon is  
only good for three months.  A three month supply cost me $30.00 if  
I remember, it's been a long time ago.  Your vet should only dilute  
a three month supply at one time.


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Re: Re:info about doxycycline

[laurieskatz]

Lynne, the water chaser will help get rid of the bad taste.
L
- Original Message - 
From: "Lynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Re:info about doxycycline


Thanks Laurie.  The vet said not to be concerned about the diarrhea he's
having at the moment.  If he were vomiting that would be cause for concern.
I squirt 1ml down his throat twice a day.  He just hates being forced to do
something.  I am trying to time the dosing so he has food in his stomach so
it isn't so hard on him.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: "laurieskatz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 3:35 PM
Subject: Re:info about doxycycline



My recollection is doxy is only in liquid form.

The following is from a discussion of feline bartonella at
http://www.jaaha.org/cgi/content/full/40/1/6
Note: dosing and side effect (diarrhea) info.
I recall it being recommended that we follow doxy with water via syringe.
Reasonsfor that are given here, too.

Therapy
Previous Bartonella therapeutic trials were unsuccessful in humans and
cats;42–44 however, recent studies have shown that long-term antibiotic
therapy with azithromycin, doxycycline, and rifampin have eradicated
infections in both species.45–48 AntiBartonella therapy of infected cats
consists of azithromycin (10 mg/kg body weight, per os [PO] given once

daily

for 21 days).46–48 Alternatively, doxycycline (10 mg/kg body weight, PO
every 12 hours for 6 weeks) or rifampin (10 mg/kg body weight, PO once

daily

for 21 days) can be used. Possible adverse reactions include
azithromycinintractable vomiting or diarrhea and doxycycline-induced
esophageal strictures if the capsule lodges in the esophagus; this can be
avoided with the administration of water following administration of the
doxycycline capsules.

Laurie

- Original Message -
From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Boo & medicine


>   I'm glad Boo is on the doxy, but a week is not long enough, it
> should be for a 3 or 4 week minimum.  The taste is disgusting, can you

get

> the pill form, you could put the pill in a pill pocket or empty capsule
> and he wouldn't even taste it.  All of my cats hate liquid meds, I never
> get that unless it doesn't come in anything else.  Boo is lucky to have
> you in his corner!!
>
> --
>
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Re: Boo & medicine

[Lynne]

Belinda, I made an error.  He's on it twice a day for 2 weeks.  A total of
40 mg per day.  I'll talk to the vet again as he gets closer to finishing
this course.  I think by then he will be on the Intrferon.  I don't know if
this cat could survive having to take the liquid medicine plus a shot in the
same day.  He really is as he is named, a complete Boob.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Boo & medicine


>I'm glad Boo is on the doxy, but a week is not long enough, it
> should be for a 3 or 4 week minimum.  The taste is disgusting, can you
> get the pill form, you could put the pill in a pill pocket or empty
> capsule and he wouldn't even taste it.  All of my cats hate liquid meds,
> I never get that unless it doesn't come in anything else.  Boo is lucky
> to have you in his corner!!
>
> --
>
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Re: Re:info about doxycycline

[Lynne]

Thanks Laurie.  The vet said not to be concerned about the diarrhea he's
having at the moment.  If he were vomiting that would be cause for concern.
I squirt 1ml down his throat twice a day.  He just hates being forced to do
something.  I am trying to time the dosing so he has food in his stomach so
it isn't so hard on him.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: "laurieskatz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 3:35 PM
Subject: Re:info about doxycycline


> My recollection is doxy is only in liquid form.
>
> The following is from a discussion of feline bartonella at
> http://www.jaaha.org/cgi/content/full/40/1/6
> Note: dosing and side effect (diarrhea) info.
> I recall it being recommended that we follow doxy with water via syringe.
> Reasonsfor that are given here, too.
>
> Therapy
> Previous Bartonella therapeutic trials were unsuccessful in humans and
> cats;42–44 however, recent studies have shown that long-term antibiotic
> therapy with azithromycin, doxycycline, and rifampin have eradicated
> infections in both species.45–48 AntiBartonella therapy of infected cats
> consists of azithromycin (10 mg/kg body weight, per os [PO] given once
daily
> for 21 days).46–48 Alternatively, doxycycline (10 mg/kg body weight, PO
> every 12 hours for 6 weeks) or rifampin (10 mg/kg body weight, PO once
daily
> for 21 days) can be used. Possible adverse reactions include
> azithromycinintractable vomiting or diarrhea and doxycycline-induced
> esophageal strictures if the capsule lodges in the esophagus; this can be
> avoided with the administration of water following administration of the
> doxycycline capsules.
>
> Laurie
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 2:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Boo & medicine
>
>
> >   I'm glad Boo is on the doxy, but a week is not long enough, it
> > should be for a 3 or 4 week minimum.  The taste is disgusting, can you
get
> > the pill form, you could put the pill in a pill pocket or empty capsule
> > and he wouldn't even taste it.  All of my cats hate liquid meds, I never
> > get that unless it doesn't come in anything else.  Boo is lucky to have
> > you in his corner!!
> >
> > --
> >
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Re: Boo & medicine

[laurieskatz]

This is my recollection as well.
Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: Boo & medicine


I seem to remember my vet telling me the diluted interferon is only 
good for three months.  A three month supply cost me $30.00 if I 
remember, it's been a long time ago.  Your vet should only dilute a 
three month supply at one time.


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Re:info about doxycycline

[laurieskatz]

My recollection is doxy is only in liquid form.

The following is from a discussion of feline bartonella at 
http://www.jaaha.org/cgi/content/full/40/1/6

Note: dosing and side effect (diarrhea) info.
I recall it being recommended that we follow doxy with water via syringe. 
Reasonsfor that are given here, too.


Therapy
Previous Bartonella therapeutic trials were unsuccessful in humans and 
cats;42–44 however, recent studies have shown that long-term antibiotic 
therapy with azithromycin, doxycycline, and rifampin have eradicated 
infections in both species.45–48 AntiBartonella therapy of infected cats 
consists of azithromycin (10 mg/kg body weight, per os [PO] given once daily 
for 21 days).46–48 Alternatively, doxycycline (10 mg/kg body weight, PO 
every 12 hours for 6 weeks) or rifampin (10 mg/kg body weight, PO once daily 
for 21 days) can be used. Possible adverse reactions include 
azithromycinintractable vomiting or diarrhea and doxycycline-induced 
esophageal strictures if the capsule lodges in the esophagus; this can be 
avoided with the administration of water following administration of the 
doxycycline capsules.


Laurie

- Original Message - 
From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Boo & medicine


  I'm glad Boo is on the doxy, but a week is not long enough, it 
should be for a 3 or 4 week minimum.  The taste is disgusting, can you get 
the pill form, you could put the pill in a pill pocket or empty capsule 
and he wouldn't even taste it.  All of my cats hate liquid meds, I never 
get that unless it doesn't come in anything else.  Boo is lucky to have 
you in his corner!!


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Re: FeLV Vaccination

[Sally Davis]

Here is my take on it for what it is worth.

I had 11 cats at the time of the outbreak. 4 cats wound up positive and I
had two cats PTS as they were very ill. One of my positives died of
something else. The others cats had high exposure to the virus  and did not
get sick. Which meant natural immunity. They were vacinated and mixed with
the positives after the vaccine had time to take effect. I think about 70%
of cats have some natural immunity. The vaccine is about 80% effective.
There is a risk of mixing. I really think it is less stressful on the cats
to mix. Stress is the big enemy. Everyone has to make there own decision. A
vet will recommend against mixing for obvoius reasons.

I have since added cats never my intension to do so. I had themvaccinated
and I hope for the best. It is hard to keep 11 cats apart in a small house.
Believe me I tried.

I hope Junior will live as long as some folks here have had theie kitties
survive. He always has some sort of sickness. His URI is worse now.

Sally


On Feb 17, 2008 9:49 AM, Sue & Frank Koren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Several people here have said that they have their FeLV + kitties living
> in with FeLV -  cats, and the negative cats are not getting infected.  I am
> trying to decide if I should vaccinate my others and let Buzz out of his
> room.  My vet is against it and says the vaccinations are only 60 - 80%
> effective.  The vet does not seem to be up on all that is going on with
> FeLV, though, and I am considering switching vets.  Buzz really doesn't,t
> mind his room, but he is a social boy and cries when he doesn't want to be
> alone.  I visit him as often as I can and spend at least an hour or so in
> the evenings in with him, but such minor details as a full time job and the
> rest of my human and cat family keep me away from being with him as much as
> he and I would like.  It seems as if vaccinating the others and freeing Buzz
> from his prison room is the best solution, but not if any of the others end
> up being infected.  Their ages range from 2 to 8 years.  Two of them,
> Charlie and Tucker have other health problems and I don't know if that would
> put them more at risk.  Anyway, has anyone ever heard of a vaccinated cat
> being infected?
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Re: Boo & medicine

[Belinda Sauro]

I seem to remember my vet telling me the diluted interferon is only 
good for three months.  A three month supply cost me $30.00 if I 
remember, it's been a long time ago.  Your vet should only dilute a 
three month supply at one time.


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Re: Boo & medicine

[Belinda Sauro]

  I'm glad Boo is on the doxy, but a week is not long enough, it 
should be for a 3 or 4 week minimum.  The taste is disgusting, can you 
get the pill form, you could put the pill in a pill pocket or empty 
capsule and he wouldn't even taste it.  All of my cats hate liquid meds, 
I never get that unless it doesn't come in anything else.  Boo is lucky 
to have you in his corner!!


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+ & - cats together

[Dorothy Noble]

To Sue & Frank ~
  I absolutely understand about you wanting Buzz to be with the others.  It is 
so tough to have them separated.  We brought in a stray a year ago and did not 
have her tested (but we did have her vaccinated).  Anyway, she was positive and 
exposed our others.  Armond caught the virus but my other cat did not.  All of 
my animals were always vaccinated.  Based on my experience, I would not mix 
them.  I have had Armond since he was 4 weeks old, he has had all of his shots 
and he still tested positive from being with the other positive cat.  
  We just adopted another FeLV positive cat so Armond could have a friend and 
we had a special house built for them.  It works out great.
  Dorothy

   
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Re: BooBoo, etc

[Lynne]

Thank you Dorothy.  We finally found a food he likes, Recovery, picked some up 
today.  He ate a good amount of it.  I will definitely add in some water.  The 
little dickens likes to lick up any juice from his canned food and then will 
eat the solid.  I'm going to start weighing how much I put out too and how much 
he leaves behind.  Where is the best place to give these shots in a cat.  They 
will be just under the skin shots.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dorothy Noble 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 1:29 PM
  Subject: BooBoo, etc


  Hi -
  Just a quick reply to a few things that you mentioned.  The shot that you 
need to give daily - if it is just under the skin, it will be super easy for 
you. (and for the cat.)   My diabetic had to have insulin injection twice daily 
and it is really painless.

  Armond, (one of my FeLV boys) never drinks water either.  I always mix his 
wet food with lots of water and he just slurps it up.  I never feed them dry 
based on tons of research don e with my diabetic but that's a whole other 
topic...

  Good luck with this.  I can never force Armond to take anything.  If I put it 
in his food, he just goes on a hunger strike.  I have tried syringes and 
droppers and have ended up with punctured thumbs!  Hang in there!

  Dorothy


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BooBoo, etc

[Dorothy Noble]

Hi -
  Just a quick reply to a few things that you mentioned.  The shot that you 
need to give daily - if it is just under the skin, it will be super easy for 
you. (and for the cat.)   My diabetic had to have insulin injection twice daily 
and it is really painless.
   
  Armond, (one of my FeLV boys) never drinks water either.  I always mix his 
wet food with lots of water and he just slurps it up.  I never feed them dry 
based on tons of research done with my diabetic but that's a whole other 
topic...
   
  Good luck with this.  I can never force Armond to take anything.  If I put it 
in his food, he just goes on a hunger strike.  I have tried syringes and 
droppers and have ended up with punctured thumbs!  Hang in there!
   
  Dorothy

   
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RE: FeLV Vaccination

[Chris]

3 of my cats lived with one of my FELV+ for 5 years until I found out the
4th whad been positive all along.  They shared the same food bowls, litter,
toys; groomed each other, etc.  All 3 were tested when I found the 4th was
pos and all 3 were neg.  I did vaccinate them at that point.  While kittens
may be a bit more vulnerable, I've come to believe that transmission among
adult cats is a lot harder than many people think.  My vet never once
considered any option but mixing and he's got some good experience with
FELV.  He left the decision to me but there really wasn't any decision.  To
separate them at that point would just have been a nightmare worse than any
risk of FELV.  

 

No vaccine is 100% but between the vaccine, the cats' ages, the fact that
they were all in reasonable, though not perfect, health-mixing was not a
problem for me.

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue & Frank Koren
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:50 AM
To: fe lv
Subject: FeLV Vaccination

 

Several people here have said that they have their FeLV + kitties living in
with FeLV -  cats, and the negative cats are not getting infected.  I am
trying to decide if I should vaccinate my others and let Buzz out of his
room.  My vet is against it and says the vaccinations are only 60 - 80%
effective.  The vet does not seem to be up on all that is going on with
FeLV, though, and I am considering switching vets.  Buzz really doesn't,t
mind his room, but he is a social boy and cries when he doesn't want to be
alone.  I visit him as often as I can and spend at least an hour or so in
the evenings in with him, but such minor details as a full time job and the
rest of my human and cat family keep me away from being with him as much as
he and I would like.  It seems as if vaccinating the others and freeing Buzz
from his prison room is the best solution, but not if any of the others end
up being infected.  Their ages range from 2 to 8 years.  Two of them,
Charlie and Tucker have other health problems and I don't know if that would
put them more at risk.  Anyway, has anyone ever heard of a vaccinated cat
being infected?

Re: diarrhea

[Lynne]

Yep this is the plain stuff with no additives.  Its in the microwave deftosting 
now.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lance 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:26 PM
  Subject: Re: diarrhea


  Cool. As long as it's just pumpkin and not filling, you're fine. All the 
extra spices and other ingredients in filling would probably just keep the 
diarrhea going. Also, you might try heating it up in the microwave for a few 
seconds (I do 12 for Ember). That sometimes makes it more "interesting."


  Lance





  On Feb 17, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Lynne wrote:


Thanks Lance.  I just happen to have some left over from the last pumpkin 
pie. 
Lynne
  - Original Message -
  From: Lance
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: diarrhea


  Hi Lynne,


  When Ember has had diarrhea on occasion, I've cleared it up by pulling 
her off of dry food and stirring pumpkin into her soft food. I've found that 
she'll eat the pumpkin before it's even stirred into the food. I don't know if 
this would help with diarrhea brought on by antibiotic use, but it's the 
easiest and most gentle solution to diarrhea, as far as I know. You just want 
to buy canned pumpkin, not pumpkin pie filling.


  Lance




  On Feb 17, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Lynne wrote:


I'm very sorry, I must have deleted an email about diarrhea and 
doxycycline.  Is there something I can give to BooBoo to help with this side 
effect.  He's only had 4 doses of the stuff and it isn't agreeing with him.

Lynne

Re: diarrhea

[Lance]

Cool. As long as it's just pumpkin and not filling, you're fine. All  
the extra spices and other ingredients in filling would probably just  
keep the diarrhea going. Also, you might try heating it up in the  
microwave for a few seconds (I do 12 for Ember). That sometimes makes  
it more "interesting."


Lance


On Feb 17, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Lynne wrote:

Thanks Lance.  I just happen to have some left over from the last  
pumpkin pie.

Lynne
- Original Message -
From: Lance
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: diarrhea

Hi Lynne,

When Ember has had diarrhea on occasion, I've cleared it up by  
pulling her off of dry food and stirring pumpkin into her soft food.  
I've found that she'll eat the pumpkin before it's even stirred into  
the food. I don't know if this would help with diarrhea brought on  
by antibiotic use, but it's the easiest and most gentle solution to  
diarrhea, as far as I know. You just want to buy canned pumpkin, not  
pumpkin pie filling.


Lance


On Feb 17, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Lynne wrote:

I'm very sorry, I must have deleted an email about diarrhea and  
doxycycline.  Is there something I can give to BooBoo to help with  
this side effect.  He's only had 4 doses of the stuff and it isn't  
agreeing with him.


Lynne

Re: diarrhea

[Lynne]

Thanks Lance.  I just happen to have some left over from the last pumpkin pie.  
Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lance 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 11:49 AM
  Subject: Re: diarrhea


  Hi Lynne,


  When Ember has had diarrhea on occasion, I've cleared it up by pulling her 
off of dry food and stirring pumpkin into her soft food. I've found that she'll 
eat the pumpkin before it's even stirred into the food. I don't know if this 
would help with diarrhea brought on by antibiotic use, but it's the easiest and 
most gentle solution to diarrhea, as far as I know. You just want to buy canned 
pumpkin, not pumpkin pie filling.


  Lance




  On Feb 17, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Lynne wrote:


I'm very sorry, I must have deleted an email about diarrhea and 
doxycycline.  Is there something I can give to BooBoo to help with this side 
effect.  He's only had 4 doses of the stuff and it isn't agreeing with him.

Lynne

Re: diarrhea

[Lance]

Hi Lynne,

When Ember has had diarrhea on occasion, I've cleared it up by pulling  
her off of dry food and stirring pumpkin into her soft food. I've  
found that she'll eat the pumpkin before it's even stirred into the  
food. I don't know if this would help with diarrhea brought on by  
antibiotic use, but it's the easiest and most gentle solution to  
diarrhea, as far as I know. You just want to buy canned pumpkin, not  
pumpkin pie filling.


Lance


On Feb 17, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Lynne wrote:

I'm very sorry, I must have deleted an email about diarrhea and  
doxycycline.  Is there something I can give to BooBoo to help with  
this side effect.  He's only had 4 doses of the stuff and it isn't  
agreeing with him.


Lynne

Re: FeLV Vaccination

[laurieskatz]

Interacting can also be a problem for the immune compromised feline leukemia 
positive cat. That kitty can pick up things from the other cats and not be able 
to fight them off. If I hadopted or rescued a FeLV positive cat, I would not 
comingle but I might try to find him a friend as long as the friend didn't 
stress him/her. I know others here do comingle.

If I found out one of my existing cats was positive, I wouldn't change things 
and they would all continue to live together. In the past, whenever I have 
brought a new cat in, I have made certain our feleuk vaccinations were current. 
I am not a fan of those vaccinations because of VAS so I don't think I would 
vaccinate for that again...plus my vet thinks the first series of feleuk 
vaccinations is enough protection for life. This is just my opinion and 
experience. Others who have co mingled are a better source of advice and 
information.

My friend had Sass, a negative, in with a group of positives. Sass was not 
vaccinated for FeLV because she thought he was positive. They all lived 
together and after 5 years my friend wondered why Sass never got sick when the 
others did. She (re?)tested him and found out he was negative. That was over 5 
years ago. He was removed from the room at the time and is still alive and well!
L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:19 AM
  Subject: Re: FeLV Vaccination


  Sue, I am the least qualified to answer this, but I would think that if Buzz 
has his own litter box and his own food dish the risk would be small.  Of 
course you wouldn't want them fighting either. I too have read that the vaccine 
is not totally effective but I think 60 to 80% effectiveness is better than 0.  
 He may not even want to be involved with the other cats.  My two want nothing 
to do with each other.  Why not at least have supervised interaction while 
you're home with them.  Yeah I know about the minor full time job and family 
details.  I feel like a neglective mother to my sick child at times.

  Lynne
- Original Message - 
From: Sue & Frank Koren 
To: fe lv 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:49 AM
Subject: FeLV Vaccination


Several people here have said that they have their FeLV + kitties living in 
with FeLV -  cats, and the negative cats are not getting infected.  I am trying 
to decide if I should vaccinate my others and let Buzz out of his room.  My vet 
is against it and says the vaccinations are only 60 - 80% effective.  The vet 
does not seem to be up on all that is going on with FeLV, though, and I am 
considering switching vets.  Buzz really doesn't,t mind his room, but he is a 
social boy and cries when he doesn't want to be alone.  I visit him as often as 
I can and spend at least an hour or so in the evenings in with him, but such 
minor details as a full time job and the rest of my human and cat family keep 
me away from being with him as much as he and I would like.  It seems as if 
vaccinating the others and freeing Buzz from his prison room is the best 
solution, but not if any of the others end up being infected.  Their ages range 
from 2 to 8 years.  Two of them, Charlie and Tucker have other health problems 
and I don't know if that would put them more at risk.  Anyway, has anyone ever 
heard of a vaccinated cat being infected?

Re: FeLV Vaccination

[Lynne]

Sue, I am the least qualified to answer this, but I would think that if Buzz 
has his own litter box and his own food dish the risk would be small.  Of 
course you wouldn't want them fighting either. I too have read that the vaccine 
is not totally effective but I think 60 to 80% effectiveness is better than 0.  
 He may not even want to be involved with the other cats.  My two want nothing 
to do with each other.  Why not at least have supervised interaction while 
you're home with them.  Yeah I know about the minor full time job and family 
details.  I feel like a neglective mother to my sick child at times.

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sue & Frank Koren 
  To: fe lv 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:49 AM
  Subject: FeLV Vaccination


  Several people here have said that they have their FeLV + kitties living in 
with FeLV -  cats, and the negative cats are not getting infected.  I am trying 
to decide if I should vaccinate my others and let Buzz out of his room.  My vet 
is against it and says the vaccinations are only 60 - 80% effective.  The vet 
does not seem to be up on all that is going on with FeLV, though, and I am 
considering switching vets.  Buzz really doesn't,t mind his room, but he is a 
social boy and cries when he doesn't want to be alone.  I visit him as often as 
I can and spend at least an hour or so in the evenings in with him, but such 
minor details as a full time job and the rest of my human and cat family keep 
me away from being with him as much as he and I would like.  It seems as if 
vaccinating the others and freeing Buzz from his prison room is the best 
solution, but not if any of the others end up being infected.  Their ages range 
from 2 to 8 years.  Two of them, Charlie and Tucker have other health problems 
and I don't know if that would put them more at risk.  Anyway, has anyone ever 
heard of a vaccinated cat being infected?

Re: diarrhea

[Lynne]

Laurie, I will call the vet just to see if there is something else we should be 
doing.  I just had a long talk with BooBoo about the necessity of fighting his 
hardest to overcome this problem.  He was purring all the time.  I know this 
sounds silly but it's up to him too as to how much he wants to put up with.  
This seems to be one of those bad days and we'll just deal with it.
Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:42 AM
  Subject: Re: diarrhea


  Lynne, I would also call your vet and let him or her know about the diarrhea. 
  I want to reassure you that we thought both Midas and Isabella would not make 
it this past year. They are both thriving.
  It's hard to see past today's troubles but hope keeps us going.
  My best
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: diarrhea


Two weeks Laurie.  I picked up some yogurt so I'll try offering him some of 
that.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:14 AM
  Subject: Re: diarrhea


  Could be the different foods, too. Or stress. Or a combination of 
factors.  
  The probiotics or yogurt mentioned might help with this.
  I recall that Midas the kitten had diarrhea until we got him off all his 
meds. 
  I am sorry to hear BooBoo has this to contend with, too.
  How many days go you have to give the doxy?
  L

- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:00 AM
Subject: diarrhea


I'm very sorry, I must have deleted an email about diarrhea and 
doxycycline.  Is there something I can give to BooBoo to help with this side 
effect.  He's only had 4 doses of the stuff and it isn't agreeing with him.

Lynne

FeLV Vaccination

[Sue & Frank Koren]

Several people here have said that they have their FeLV + kitties living in 
with FeLV -  cats, and the negative cats are not getting infected.  I am trying 
to decide if I should vaccinate my others and let Buzz out of his room.  My vet 
is against it and says the vaccinations are only 60 - 80% effective.  The vet 
does not seem to be up on all that is going on with FeLV, though, and I am 
considering switching vets.  Buzz really doesn't,t mind his room, but he is a 
social boy and cries when he doesn't want to be alone.  I visit him as often as 
I can and spend at least an hour or so in the evenings in with him, but such 
minor details as a full time job and the rest of my human and cat family keep 
me away from being with him as much as he and I would like.  It seems as if 
vaccinating the others and freeing Buzz from his prison room is the best 
solution, but not if any of the others end up being infected.  Their ages range 
from 2 to 8 years.  Two of them, Charlie and Tucker have other health problems 
and I don't know if that would put them more at risk.  Anyway, has anyone ever 
heard of a vaccinated cat being infected?

Re: diarrhea

[laurieskatz]

Lynne, I would also call your vet and let him or her know about the diarrhea. 
I want to reassure you that we thought both Midas and Isabella would not make 
it this past year. They are both thriving.
It's hard to see past today's troubles but hope keeps us going.
My best
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:39 AM
  Subject: Re: diarrhea


  Two weeks Laurie.  I picked up some yogurt so I'll try offering him some of 
that.  
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:14 AM
Subject: Re: diarrhea


Could be the different foods, too. Or stress. Or a combination of factors.  
The probiotics or yogurt mentioned might help with this.
I recall that Midas the kitten had diarrhea until we got him off all his 
meds. 
I am sorry to hear BooBoo has this to contend with, too.
How many days go you have to give the doxy?
L

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:00 AM
  Subject: diarrhea


  I'm very sorry, I must have deleted an email about diarrhea and 
doxycycline.  Is there something I can give to BooBoo to help with this side 
effect.  He's only had 4 doses of the stuff and it isn't agreeing with him.

  Lynne

Re: diarrhea

[Lynne]

Two weeks Laurie.  I picked up some yogurt so I'll try offering him some of 
that.  
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 9:14 AM
  Subject: Re: diarrhea


  Could be the different foods, too. Or stress. Or a combination of factors.  
  The probiotics or yogurt mentioned might help with this.
  I recall that Midas the kitten had diarrhea until we got him off all his 
meds. 
  I am sorry to hear BooBoo has this to contend with, too.
  How many days go you have to give the doxy?
  L

- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:00 AM
Subject: diarrhea


I'm very sorry, I must have deleted an email about diarrhea and 
doxycycline.  Is there something I can give to BooBoo to help with this side 
effect.  He's only had 4 doses of the stuff and it isn't agreeing with him.

Lynne

Re: diarrhea

[laurieskatz]

Could be the different foods, too. Or stress. Or a combination of factors.  
The probiotics or yogurt mentioned might help with this.
I recall that Midas the kitten had diarrhea until we got him off all his meds. 
I am sorry to hear BooBoo has this to contend with, too.
How many days go you have to give the doxy?
L

  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 8:00 AM
  Subject: diarrhea


  I'm very sorry, I must have deleted an email about diarrhea and doxycycline.  
Is there something I can give to BooBoo to help with this side effect.  He's 
only had 4 doses of the stuff and it isn't agreeing with him.

  Lynne

diarrhea

[Lynne]

I'm very sorry, I must have deleted an email about diarrhea and doxycycline.  
Is there something I can give to BooBoo to help with this side effect.  He's 
only had 4 doses of the stuff and it isn't agreeing with him.

Lynne