Re: New FELV Positive- questions

2008-04-08 Thread catatonya
I know it's not scientifically proven, but I believe light positive means 
recent exposure.  Hopefully the cat will fight the virus and turn up negative 
within a couple of months.
  t

Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

  On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wow, she's a light positive.  I don't know how old she is, but   I
have no doubt what I would do.  I'd leave the kit with her mom and
bubba, and retest at some point.  She's already with them, so they're
already exposed. Moving is stressful. Light Positive can mean that
the test results aren't correct and it needs to be redone; or that
she's been exposed to the virus and is mounting a defense against it,
or whatever.If she was an adult I'd start interferon, but
probably not as a kitten.  I'm sure you'll get some other ideas too!

  
I really do not like the whole light positive thing.  It is confusing and 
difficult to understand - I still don't understand it and one of my foster 
kittens tested light pos a couple of years ago.  She turned out to be negative, 
though, so in that case we believe it was a bad test.





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Re: New FELV Positive- questions

2008-04-08 Thread catatonya
I have to agree with Gloria.  Keep the cats separated and don't move anyone 
until you have had some more time to retest. Hopefully your negatives will all 
end up negative.
  tonya

Gloria B. Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Wow, she's a light positive. I don't know how old she is, but I 
have no doubt what I would do. I'd leave the kit with her mom and 
bubba, and retest at some point. She's already with them, so they're 
already exposed. Moving is stressful. Light Positive can mean that 
the test results aren't correct and it needs to be redone; or that 
she's been exposed to the virus and is mounting a defense against it, 
or whatever. If she was an adult I'd start interferon, but 
probably not as a kitten. I'm sure you'll get some other ideas too!

Best wishes, and thanks for rescuing the FELV positives...

Gloria





At 11:27 AM 3/28/2008, you wrote:
OK- I volunteer for a rescue and care for cats in my home. I 
already have my own two girls who live in the main home that our 
FELV positive. I have been taking care of a mom and 2 kittens and 
then one other cat. They live in a spare room I have converted into 
a cat room full of toys, a cat tree, and everything they could 
need. Yesterday, mom and kits had their big day at the vet. Here's 
the dilemma. Jill, one of the kits, tested a light positive for 
FELV. Her brother and mother didn't. The other cat was previously 
tested. Mom and brother have been vaccinated and the other cat is 
being vaccinated today. The kits are about 12 weeks old now- this 
is estimated because they were dumped in the country. What do I do 
w/ everyone? Do I keep people separate or since they are vaccinated 
they are okay? I don't have immediate homes for anyone right now so 
I am it. Do I let Jill down w/ my girls or what if she's 
negative---I haven't had my girls retested...what if they are 
negative? Any advice would be great! Thanks everyone!


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Re: re spaying my kitten

2008-04-08 Thread catatonya
I would spay.  I think your vet would tell you if there were any problem and 
would persuade you not to spay.  Spaying dramatically increases your cat's risk 
of cancer.  The stress of going into heat is also bad for a positive cat.  I 
have had both my positive cats spayed.
   
  tonya

Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Kathy, personally, unless she has had bloodwork showing she is the 
healthiest positive cat on the planet, I would not do it.  I was told that the 
stress of wanting to breed is harder on a cat than the stress of undergoing 
neutering but if I had to do it again, I would never have had my positive male 
neutered.  Although he was pretty far advanced leukemia wise, I truly believe 
his neutering caused him many additional problems that hastened his death.  As 
we know, spaying is a much bigger procedure than neutering.  If she is going to 
be an indoor cat only and you are willing to go through heats I would not do 
it.  Just my take on things.  I now have a 3 year old female who has Feline 
Herpes Virus, inactive at the moment, and I've only had her for a week.  I am 
not even going to think about spaying for at least a month.  I want her to be 
in excellent health, stress free etc before I'll even consider it.
   
  Lynne
- Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Dillard 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:18 AM
  Subject: re spaying my kitten
  

My female kitten Foxy is about 8 1/2 months old. She has tested positive for 
feline leukemia and is currently on a daily dose of interferon. My vet has 
recommended having her spayed . Please advise and discuss pros and cons. I feel 
very anxious and scared about having this procedure done but want to do the 
right thing for Foxy.

  kathy

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Re: re spaying my kitten

2008-04-08 Thread catatonya
Many members keep their positive cats on interferon.
  tonya

Kathy Dillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The last time she was at the vet was for shots and the vet told us to bring 
her back in three weeks for a distemper shot and to discuss having her sapyed. 
I believe they said they would do  blood work at that time. After she tested 
positive for feline leukemis I think their protocol is to just keep her on 
interferon all the time. Do you think that is a bad idea?

Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Well, I guess you have to trust your 
vet.  I still have misgivings about it but will be getting my girl spayed also. 
 I must confess I am very nervous about having it done.  She will never be an 
outdoor cat so there is no cause for worry there but I think part of my 
adoption agreement was that I do get her spayed.  Why is your little one on 
interferon?  Has she had routine blood work done to make sure her CBC is ok?  
There was a young leukemia positive cat, around 8 months old, at our vets whose 
bloodwork was excellent and she was going to be spayed.  So I don't know what 
the best thing to do is.  I never had a cat that was terminally ill before 
until Boo and it just seemed everything went downhill rapidly after he was 
neutered.  I'm just a little paranoid these days.
   
  Lynne
- Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Dillard 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:14 PM
  Subject: Re: re spaying my kitten
  

She was just checked by the vet and she has gianed weight (6 lbs) and the vet 
said she seems very healthy.  The vet said that cats that are not spayed have 
more problems with cancer. She has been in heat twice now and it does seem to 
stress her out some and she eats less during that time

Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  STYLE   Kathy, personally, unless she 
has had bloodwork showing she is the healthiest positive cat on the planet, I 
would not do it.  I was told that the stress of wanting to breed is harder on a 
cat than the stress of undergoing neutering but if I had to do it again, I 
would never have had my positive male neutered.  Although he was pretty far 
advanced leukemia wise, I truly believe his neutering caused him many 
additional problems that hastened his death.  As we know, spaying is a much 
bigger procedure than neutering.  If she is going to be an indoor cat only and 
you are willing to go through heats I would not do it.  Just my take on things. 
 I now have a 3 year old female who has Feline Herpes Virus, inactive at the 
moment, and I've only had her for a week.  I am not even going to think about 
spaying for at least a month.  I want her to be in excellent health, stress 
free etc before I'll even consider it.
   
  Lynne
- Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Dillard 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:18 AM
  Subject: re spaying my kitten
  

My female kitten Foxy is about 8 1/2 months old. She has tested positive for 
feline leukemia and is currently on a daily dose of interferon. My vet has 
recomm ended having her spayed . Please advise and discuss pros and cons. I 
feel very anxious and scared about having this procedure done but want to do 
the right thing for Foxy.

  kathy

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Re: re spaying my kitten

2008-04-08 Thread Sharyl
I think Tonya meant to say that spaying decreases the risk of cancer.  I'm 
about to have my 2 FeLV+ females spayed per the vets recommendation.  One has 
already gone into heat.  Her appetite was affected  and she seemed pretty 
stressed out.  There is a risk to any surgery.  You just have to make the best 
decision you can with your vet's help.
  Sharyl Sissy and Rocket

catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would spay.  I think your vet would tell you if there were any problem 
and would persuade you not to spay.  Spaying dramatically increases your cat's 
risk of cancer.  The stress of going into heat is also bad for a positive cat.  
I have had both my positive cats spayed.
   
  tonya

Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Kathy, personally, unless she has had bloodwork showing she is the 
healthiest positive cat on the planet, I would not do it.  I was told that the 
stress of wanting to breed is harder on a cat than the stress of undergoing 
neutering but if I had to do it again, I would never have had my positive male 
neutered.  Although he was pretty far advanced leukemia wise, I truly believe 
his neutering caused him many additional problems that hastened his death.  As 
we know, spaying is a much bigger procedure than neutering.  If she is going to 
be an indoor cat only and you are willing to go through heats I would not do 
it.  Just my take on things.  I now have a 3 year old female who has Feline 
Herpes Virus, inactive at the moment, and I've only had her for a week.  I am 
not even going to think about spaying for at least a month.  I want her to be 
in excellent health, stress free etc before I'll even consider it.
   
  Lynne
- Original Message - 
  From: Kathy Dillard 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:18 AM
  Subject: re spaying my kitten
  

My female kitten Foxy is about 8 1/2 months old. She has tested positive for 
feline leukemia and is currently on a daily dose of interferon. My vet has 
recommended having her spayed . Please advise and discuss pros and cons. I feel 
very anxious and scared about having this procedure done but want to do the 
right thing for Foxy.

  kathy

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Has anyone heard of this new FELV drug - is it real or fake?

2008-04-08 Thread Andrew Werner
Someone sent me this link: http://www.imulan.com/ and on one page of the web 
site it says,

Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI) is an conditionally approved 
treatment aid* for cats infected with Feline Leukemia Virus (FeLV) and/ or 
Feline Immunodeficiency Virus (FIV) and the associated symptoms of lymphopenia, 
opportunistic infection, anemia, granulocytopenia, and thrombocytopenia. LTCI 
is an immune regulating protein that is a potent regulator of lymphocyte and 
interleukin-2 production.

Do any of y'all know if this is for real, or is it just a scam to take 
advantage of those of us willing to try anything to help our FELV+ cats?

Neither of the Vets we take our cats to has heard of this new drug.  The person 
who sent me the link has an FIV+ cat who is doing well, but never tried this 
new drug - just heard of it and pointed me at it.

Any information you have - opinions, facts, speculation, any feedback - is very 
welcome.  I'm trying to find a Vet who knows about it, and might prescribe it 
if it might strengthen PC's (Problem Child, Purring Cat) immune system.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Purrrs to you and yours,
Andrew
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Texas Highway 36, Purrkins Diesel Cat,  Little Fuzzy (Fuzz-Xena), Zoro, Zippy, 
Wellington, - and PC! (FELV+) - and Alpha, Beta, Tactical, Suzi-Q, - and  
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Re: New FELV Positive- questions

2008-04-08 Thread Belinda Sauro

 Hi Tonya,
  I don't think this is always the case, I had Bailey tested several 
times in his 11 years of life, at least 4 times and the tests were given 
years apart and he always tested a light positive.
I know it's not scientifically proven, but I believe light positive 
means recent exposure.  Hopefully the cat will fight the virus and 
turn up negative within a couple of months.


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Re: New FELV Positive- questions

2008-04-08 Thread MaryChristine
any color at all that appears in the little circle during the appropriate
time (10 minutes in most cases) means positive. depth of color has nothing
to do with amount or strength of infection.

positive is positive, pregnant is pregnant.

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi Tonya,
  I don't think this is always the case, I had Bailey tested several times
 in his 11 years of life, at least 4 times and the tests were given years
 apart and he always tested a light positive.

  I know it's not scientifically proven, but I believe light positive
  means recent exposure.  Hopefully the cat will fight the virus and turn up
  negative within a couple of months.
 

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Re: re spaying my kitten

2008-04-08 Thread janine paton
Hopefully I'm not repeating something here, but we've
had 2 young females (both approx 8 mos) in 2 different
feral colonies recently with pyometra.  One was
obviously ill and close to death.  The other was just
dumb luck -   trapped her expecting a routine spay and
was very surprised to find out.  Both cats survived. 
But that's another reason to tip the spay or not
scale.   

Janine


--- Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think Tonya meant to say that spaying decreases
 the risk of cancer.  I'm about to have my 2 FeLV+
 females spayed per the vets recommendation.  One has
 already gone into heat.  Her appetite was affected 
 and she seemed pretty stressed out.  There is a risk
 to any surgery.  You just have to make the best
 decision you can with your vet's help.
   Sharyl Sissy and Rocket
 
 catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I would spay.  I think your vet would tell you
 if there were any problem and would persuade you not
 to spay.  Spaying dramatically increases your cat's
 risk of cancer.  The stress of going into heat is
 also bad for a positive cat.  I have had both my
 positive cats spayed.

   tonya
 
 Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Kathy, personally, unless she has had
 bloodwork showing she is the healthiest positive cat
 on the planet, I would not do it.  I was told that
 the stress of wanting to breed is harder on a cat
 than the stress of undergoing neutering but if I had
 to do it again, I would never have had my positive
 male neutered.  Although he was pretty far advanced
 leukemia wise, I truly believe his neutering caused
 him many additional problems that hastened his
 death.  As we know, spaying is a much bigger
 procedure than neutering.  If she is going to be an
 indoor cat only and you are willing to go through
 heats I would not do it.  Just my take on things.  I
 now have a 3 year old female who has Feline Herpes
 Virus, inactive at the moment, and I've only had her
 for a week.  I am not even going to think about
 spaying for at least a month.  I want her to be in
 excellent health, stress free etc before I'll even
 consider it.

   Lynne
 - Original Message - 
   From: Kathy Dillard 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 10:18 AM
   Subject: re spaying my kitten
   
 
 My female kitten Foxy is about 8 1/2 months old. She
 has tested positive for feline leukemia and is
 currently on a daily dose of interferon. My vet has
 recommended having her spayed . Please advise and
 discuss pros and cons. I feel very anxious and
 scared about having this procedure done but want to
 do the right thing for Foxy.
 
   kathy
 
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Re: Has anyone heard of this new FELV drug - is it real or fake?

2008-04-08 Thread Sharyl
Andrew I just read a post where someone was doing a study on imulan on FeLV+ 
cats and now for the life of me I can't find the post.  Don't know if it was 
here or another group.  That's the problem with being on so many cat boards.  I 
know they wrote that they started out with weekly shots and are now doing 
monthly shots and each shot cost approx $50.  
  I'll keep searching for that post.
  Sharyl Sissy and Rocket

Andrew Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Someone sent me this link: http://www.imulan.com/ and on one page of the web 
site it says,

Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI) is an conditionally approved 
treatment aid* for cats infected with Feline Leukemia Virus (FeLV) and/ or 
Feline Immunodeficiency Virus (FIV) and the associated symptoms of lymphopenia, 
opportunistic infection, anemia, granulocytopenia, and thrombocytopenia. LTCI 
is an immune regulating protein that is a potent regulator of lymphocyte and 
interleukin-2 production.

Do any of y'all know if this is for real, or is it just a scam to take 
advantage of those of us willing to try anything to help our FELV+ cats?

Neither of the Vets we take our cats to has heard of this new drug. The person 
who sent me the link has an FIV+ cat who is doing well, but never tried this 
new drug - just heard of it and pointed me at it.

Any information you have - opinions, facts, speculation, any feedback - is very 
welcome. I'm trying to find a Vet who knows about it, and might prescribe it if 
it might strengthen PC's (Problem Child, Purring Cat) immune system.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Purrrs to you and yours,
Andrew
of Andrew  Lizzie
Texas Highway 36, Purrkins Diesel Cat, Little Fuzzy (Fuzz-Xena), Zoro, Zippy, 
Wellington, - and PC! (FELV+) - and Alpha, Beta, Tactical, Suzi-Q, - and 
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Re: Has anyone heard of this new FELV drug - is it real or fake?

2008-04-08 Thread Sally Davis
If you search the archives for* T cyte*, you will see some information on
this drug. T Cyte was sold to Immulan who is now marketing it. Ther is
anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful in Felk kitties. It is not real
cheap but is any drug thses days.

Sally

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Andrew Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Someone sent me this link: http://www.imulan.com/ and on one page of the
 web site it says,

 Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI) is an conditionally approved
 treatment aid* for cats infected with Feline Leukemia Virus (FeLV) and/ or
 Feline Immunodeficiency Virus (FIV) and the associated symptoms of
 lymphopenia, opportunistic infection, anemia, granulocytopenia, and
 thrombocytopenia. LTCI is an immune regulating protein that is a potent
 regulator of lymphocyte and interleukin-2 production.

 Do any of y'all know if this is for real, or is it just a scam to take
 advantage of those of us willing to try anything to help our FELV+ cats?

 Neither of the Vets we take our cats to has heard of this new drug.  The
 person who sent me the link has an FIV+ cat who is doing well, but never
 tried this new drug - just heard of it and pointed me at it.

 Any information you have - opinions, facts, speculation, any feedback - is
 very welcome.  I'm trying to find a Vet who knows about it, and might
 prescribe it if it might strengthen PC's (Problem Child, Purring Cat) immune
 system.

 Thanks in advance for your help.

 Purrrs to you and yours,
 Andrew
 of Andrew  Lizzie
 Texas Highway 36, Purrkins Diesel Cat,  Little Fuzzy (Fuzz-Xena), Zoro,
 Zippy, Wellington, - and PC! (FELV+) - and Alpha, Beta, Tactical, Suzi-Q, -
 and  Pinkie, and 4 mini-tigers and Tiger Tom (fosters) - in East Bernard,
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Re: I really need some advice

2008-04-08 Thread catatonya
I mix as well.  Only with vaccinated cats, of course.
  tonya

Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Mixing has worked for me as long as the negative cat is up to date on felv 
vaccine. My vet says the vac is 90+ % effective and, if the other cat or 
cats are healthy, he sees very little reason for worry.


- Original Message - 
From: Gloria Lane 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: I really need some advice


 What a difficult situation, my heart goes out to you. When I got my 
 Calawalla, she was 6 months old, a pretty little calico girl kitten, just 
 off the street. I couldnt' believe she would ever die, but she did at 
 about 3 yrs old. I kind of feel like if they make it past 3, they're 
 gonna be ok, but just my experience. I did keep Calawalla isolated from 
 the others, meticulously, for about 6 months. Then I did decide to mix 
 Calawalla with my other non-FELV cats, and it worked out fine for me. 
 They had been vaccinated, but I think a healthy adult immune system does 
 a lot whether they're vacc'd or not. I added another FELV cat to the 
 mix, and they were all great buddies. I really don't think it's as 
 contagious as we hear. I have a friend who also acquired a kitty that 
 tested positive - she uses interferon alpha daily, and mixes with another 
 non-FELV cat, and works for her. She's made it past the 3 year mark, and 
 everyone's doing fine.

 Not saying that you should necessarily do this,something to consider - 
 and others here don't do that, but several of us do and find it works.

 If you choose to find another home for your sweet kitty, I'm sure in that 
 Michigan area where you live, or NJ/PA, that you can find someone to 
 take and love Binxy.

 Best of luck and hope this gives you help in some way.

 Gloria



 On Apr 1, 2008, at 11:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I recently adopted a 4 yr old cat from an ad on the local Detroit Metro
 Craigslist. I also have Velvet whom I adopted from the SPCA 16 yrs ago
 who obviously has been tested then and free from both FELV and FIV.

 I had been keeping the new cat, Binxy, totally separate in the bathroom
 until she settled down a little and stopped cowering behind the pipes
 under the cabinet enough for me to take her to the Vet. Of course I knew
 in the back of my mind that she could have either disease since the
 people who gave her to me had obviously done little to care for her-- 
 not
 spayed, nails unclipped, no brushing, ear mites, no vet visits in four
 years, etc. But, I have a soft spot for callies and I figured that an
 older cat had a far lesser chance of being adopted since most people
 want kittens. She is really cute.

 Anyhow, she tested positive for FELV today---the Vet himself did the
 test so there is little chance that it was not done properly. This
 leaves me in quite a dilemma. For Velvet's sake, keeping Binxy just
 isn't a realistic option and she can't stay in the bathroom much longer.
 I am living in a shared housing situation and although my landlord does
 allow animals, he let me know that the house needs the downstairs
 bathroom back. Plus what kind of life is that for a cat who is very
 loving and social? Now that she is over her initial fear and shock over
 being unceremoniously dumped in a strange place, her cuddly, loving
 personality is emerging. Were she a more offish or mean type, the
 thought of having her peacefully put to sleep probably wouldn't be as
 difficult.

 Aside from the ear mites (and most likely worms) she seems to be healthy
 and I'm sure could have a good quality of life in a home as an only cat
 or with another pos. cat---but how to find such a situation? I am at a
 total loss and don't know where to turn. I have already called several
 rescue groups in this area and been faced with the obvious---with the
 highly contagious nature of this disease, they just don't have the
 resources or facilities to deal with this and put all the other neg cats
 at risk.

 If I take her to the Humane Society, I'm pretty certain she would be
 immediately put down if they would even allow her into the building at
 all. I have never been faced with a situation like this as all of the
 cats which I have had throughout my life were from a Shelter, or rescue
 group and tested before they even came through my door.

 Do any of you have any suggestions or know of anybody or any group in
 this area which specializes in placing pos. cats? I really don't want
 to see such a sweet cat be euthanized, but I just don't have a clue what
 to do now and I must do something soon. I found this list as I was
 doing a google search for fel-pos rescue groups. Any other groups I have
 encountered are either way out of my area or only take animals from
 other shelter or from off the street---not from the general public.

 If there are no resources in my current area in Pontiac-Detroit- Metro in
 Michigan, if you know of any near Philadelphia, Pa or nearby New Jersey,
 I am scheduled to go back 

Re: Has anyone heard of this new FELV drug - is it real or fake?

2008-04-08 Thread Jane Lyons

Thanks Sally

I've contacted the two vets that I use and neither of them had heard  
about it. They said they would look into it.


MeMe is in such a good place right now, that I have been afraid to  
post about it. (superstitious)
She is completely symptom free, with the exception of a slight  
irritation on her gum. It is just too good to be true.
Her glands are normal, no sneezing, no runny nose, no diarrhea. Her  
appetite has been great and her energy is too.


It has taken a year, but all the advise and support I have gotten  
from this list has made it possible. I don't take
it for granted for a minute, but it is so fabulous to see her  
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On Apr 8, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Sally Davis wrote:

If you search the archives for T cyte, you will see some  
information on this drug. T Cyte was sold to Immulan who is now  
marketing it. Ther is anecdotal evidence that it is very helpful in  
Felk kitties. It is not real cheap but is any drug thses days.


Sally

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Andrew Werner  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Someone sent me this link: http://www.imulan.com/ and on one page  
of the web site it says,


Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI) is an conditionally  
approved treatment aid* for cats infected with Feline Leukemia  
Virus (FeLV) and/ or Feline Immunodeficiency Virus (FIV) and the  
associated symptoms of lymphopenia, opportunistic infection,  
anemia, granulocytopenia, and thrombocytopenia. LTCI is an immune  
regulating protein that is a potent regulator of lymphocyte and  
interleukin-2 production.


Do any of y'all know if this is for real, or is it just a scam to  
take advantage of those of us willing to try anything to help our  
FELV+ cats?


Neither of the Vets we take our cats to has heard of this new  
drug.  The person who sent me the link has an FIV+ cat who is doing  
well, but never tried this new drug - just heard of it and  
pointed me at it.


Any information you have - opinions, facts, speculation, any  
feedback - is very welcome.  I'm trying to find a Vet who knows  
about it, and might prescribe it if it might strengthen PC's  
(Problem Child, Purring Cat) immune system.


Thanks in advance for your help.

Purrrs to you and yours,
Andrew
of Andrew  Lizzie
Texas Highway 36, Purrkins Diesel Cat,  Little Fuzzy (Fuzz-Xena),  
Zoro, Zippy, Wellington, - and PC! (FELV+) - and Alpha, Beta,  
Tactical, Suzi-Q, - and  Pinkie, and 4 mini-tigers and Tiger Tom  
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Re: Introducing Sissy and Rocket

2008-04-08 Thread catatonya
I personally would keep the two positives along with my other cats (having them 
vaccinated of course).  I brought in two positives with an older crf cat (who 
eventually died from kidney failure), but he never tested positive from being 
with the positives.  I've had up to 12 negatives mixed with 2 positives for 
over 10 years now.  No negative has ever contracted the disease.  The positives 
came to me positive.
   
  tonya

Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had been feeding a group of dumpster 8 kittens and ended up rescuing 2, 
Sissy and Rocket, when they were about 12 weeks old.  On their 1st vet visit 
both tested FeLV+.  I will have both retested the end of April to see if they 
are still positive.  I have them quarantined in my garage.   They are eating 
Iams canned kitten food supplemented with a Super B Complex, Lactoferrin and 
DMG.   So far they are responding well and seem very healthy.  Both have had 
their kitten shots and been wormed.
   
  If they stay positive I will either find a forever home for them or build an 
enclosure onto the garage for them.  I have 2 indoor kitties and one has CRF so 
am concerned about bringing them into the house.
   
  My questions concern the rest of the colony which includes at least 4 adults. 
 I can not take all of them in.  My plan had been to TNR the colony 
(trap/neuter/release). The vet is recommending euthanizing the entire colony if 
these 2 stay positive.  I am not sure where I will be able to get then neutered 
if they are positive.  And I can not trap them just to have them euthanized.  
That may be the best thing to do but I just can't do it.  Is there any info on 
how to deal with a FeLV+ feral colony?  Any advise on how to get them neutered? 
 Am I obligated to tell the vet about the potential for FeLV when having them 
neutered?
   
  Sharyl Sissy and Rocket
  ES of VA

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Re: A few more facts

2008-04-08 Thread catatonya
Caroline,
   
  I hope you find homes for them.
  tonya

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
When I wrote in yesterday, I was more in panic mode and not necessarily
thinking too clearly. I appreciate the advice from all of those who
responded and felt I should fill in the picture a little more. I have
also followed up on all of the Iowa contacts and hope something can
develop there. I was also contacted by a gentleman from the list here,
Gary, and if we can get the transportation coordinated, that looks to
be the best yet.

God bless those of you who have dedicated your life to helping these
Felv kitties. I've realized more than ever why it is pretty unrealistic
of me to keep her.

The house in which I currently live is not mine---it is a shared housing
situation while I wait for my name to come up on one of the lists for
subsidized Senior housing to which I have applied. The rest of the house
would appreciate their bathroom back, which my landlord has informed me
about.

Caring indefinitely for a cat (or possibly two) with a major disease
such as this is totally unrealistic for a low-income Senior living on SS
only. Reading about the numerous tests, supplements, treatments, etc. it
is obvious how quickly things can add up. Realistically, it's just not
manageable for me at all. For those of you in different circumstances,
I think it's wonderful that you have chosen to use the resources you
have to make a difference for these kitties. 

My cat has not been vaccinated for this and even if she were, the
vaccine is generally 90% effective. Even tho Velvet is currently
healthy, that may not necessarily be the case and could change rapidly
at any time. She is a very Senior cat at 17 yrs. old and has
outlasted her two other sisters even with a heart murmur. However, I
could not live with myself if she were in the unlucky 10% and ended up
with this disease due to my decision to expose her to it.

I guess I could be faulted by some for her not being vaccinated, but
that's just a result of my risk-benefits ratio evaluation of
vaccinations for adult cats in general (kittens with undeveloped
immune systems is a totally different scenario) With the accumulating
evidence for the various cancers stemming from yearly vaccinations, I
just felt that it was better for MY cats to by-pass being vaccinated
for something they would not encounter. Other people do differently
for their cats as is their right.

For all the time I have had various cats over the years, they have
always been totally indoor-only cats. It has always been a closed
system The only way for them to be exposed to something is if I
introduce it. And as unbelievable as it may sound, no cat of mine has
gotten out of my door unawares even tho one was a dedicated escape
artist who felt she just HAD to go thru every open door, even a closet
door. :) Velvet has zero interest (I guess her time as a stray prior to
the SPCA was enough of a trauma so the streets hold no allure.)


The best and most realistic thing that I can do for Binxy is to make a
reasonable attempt to find someone who can care for her and if that
fails then be sure that she is euthanized peacefully via injection
rather than that horrendous vaccuum chamber or gas which can cause such
needless suffering.


For me to do otherwise would be just plain foolish---I can't spend money
I don't have to save one cat while there are probably hundreds, if not
thousands, of other healthy cats within an hours drive being euthanized
every day for no reason other than no more room or no more time. I can't
save all of them, but I can save one. This is why I don't adopt
kittens--they have very little difficulty finding a home. Once they are
past the cute stage, very few potential adopters want to deal with them.

Anyhow, those are my thoughts after sleeping on it and thinking. I will
do my best to find a caring and knowledgeable home for Binxy within the
next week. That's the primary reason I wrote to this list. I think you
folks who are raising these cats against great odds are wonderful, but I
just don't have the resources to be able to manage it. But, I'm an
optimist at heart and believe in the power of prayer and if it's meant
to be, then it will happen.

Thanks for caring. Caroline


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RE: Has anyone heard of this new FELV drug - is it real or fake?

2008-04-08 Thread designercats

Andrew,
I'm really new here with newly diagnosed FeLV+ foster cats but this treatment 
is real. It is expensive. My understanding is that it's by injection only and 
for the first month, weekly injections must be given and then monthly 
injections. It is only available in the US. I live in Canada (a few kilometers 
from the border) and will be getting it and starting it within a few weeks.  My 
vet's working on it.  I really, really hope it works!!  
El  Message: 8 Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2008 06:41:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew 
Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Has anyone heard of this new FELV drug - 
is it real or fake? To: FeLVTalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii  Someone sent me this 
link: http://www.imulan.com/ and on one page of the web site it says,  
Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator (LTCI) is an conditionally approved 
treatment aid* for cats infected with Feline Leukemia Virus (FeLV) and/ or 
Feline Immunodeficiency Virus (FIV) and the associated symptoms of lymphopenia, 
opportunistic infection, anemia, granulocytopenia, and thrombocytopenia. LTCI 
is an immune regulating protein that is a potent regulator of lymphocyte and 
interleukin-2 production.  Do any of y'all know if this is for real, or is 
it just a scam to take advantage of those of us willing to try anything to help 
our FELV+ cats?  Neither of the Vets we take our cats to has heard of this 
new drug. The person who sent me the link has an FIV+ cat who is doing well, 
but never tried this new drug - just heard of it and pointed me at it.  Any 
information you have - opinions, facts, speculation, any feedback - is very 
welcome. I'm trying to find a Vet who knows about it, and might prescribe it if 
it might strengthen PC's (Problem Child, Purring Cat) immune system.  Thanks 
in advance for your help.  Purrrs to you and yours, Andrew of Andrew  
Lizzie Texas Highway 36, Purrkins Diesel Cat, Little Fuzzy (Fuzz-Xena), Zoro, 
Zippy, Wellington, - and PC! (FELV+) - and Alpha, Beta, Tactical, Suzi-Q, - and 
Pinkie, and 4 mini-tigers and Tiger Tom (fosters) - in East Bernard, Texas USA 
   
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Re: Introducing Sissy and Rocket

2008-04-08 Thread catatonya
If it were me I would trap and neuter the rest of the colony and not test them 
for felv.
  tonya

Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That's wonderful that you're doing this.  Would be nice if you could find a 
low-cost spay neuter clinic, or a free service, to help fund the neutering.  RE 
your question about telling the vet, I don't know.   If 2 are positive, still 
doesn't mean all the others are, although of course there's a chance. Any vet 
should be aware that if the kitty hasn't been tested, there's a potential for 
FELV or FIV.  Neutering is the key to preventing the spread of this, as I 
understand.   Least my take on it.   Hope you find a good option for low cost 
or free neutering.  

  Gloria
  

  
  On Apr 2, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Sharyl wrote:
I had been feeding a group of dumpster 8 kittens and ended up rescuing 2, 
Sissy and Rocket, when they were about 12 weeks old.  On their 1st vet visit 
both tested FeLV+.  I will have both retested the end of April to see if they 
are still positive.  I have them quarantined in my garage.   They are eating 
Iams canned kitten food supplemented with a Super B Complex, Lactoferrin and 
DMG.   So far they are responding well and seem very healthy.  Both have had 
their kitten shots and been wormed.
   
  If they stay positive I will either find a forever home for them or build an 
enclosure onto the garage for them.  I have 2 indoor kitties and one has CRF so 
am concerned about bringing them into the house.
   
  My questions concern the rest of the colony which includes at least 4 adults. 
 I can not take all of them in.  My plan had been to TNR the colony 
(trap/neuter/release). The vet is recommending euthanizing the entire colony if 
these 2 stay positive.  I am not sure where I will be able to get then neutered 
if they are positive.  And I can not trap them just to have them euthanized.  
That may be the best thing to do but I just can't do it.  Is there any info on 
how to deal with a FeLV+ feral colony?  Any advise on how to get them neutered? 
 Am I obligated to tell the vet about the potential for FeLV when having them 
neutered?
   
  Sharyl Sissy and Rocket
  ES of VA
  

  
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