Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread dlgegg
I had not thought about what if I were not home.  That is enough to make me 
never leave home again!

 Peggy Verdonck-Riley  wrote: 
> My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground
> outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it
> behind them.
> I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!
> 
> On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, "Lorrie"  wrote:
> 
> > What a terrible story!
> >
> > This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on
> > fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back
> > inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to
> > rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back
> > inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your
> > cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats this
> > would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are
> > only one or two cats this can be done.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
> > On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
> > > In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
> > > snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there because
> > > side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats,
> > and I
> > > had "just" moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my
> > > apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my
> > > father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed
> > > porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was
> > > rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft
> > > and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke
> > > inhalation because they have such tiny lungs.
> > >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread dlgegg
I don't even want to think about something like that happening.  It would be so 
hard to be alive and my babies dead. Just thinking about it gives me shivers. I 
would go back in until all were out.  I have a plan, carriers for all 7 and I 
have an Astro van which will easily hold all of us.  I would hate to loose my 
possessions, but they can bereplaced and my first concern is my babies.  Hope 
this never happens to anyone else again.


 GRAS  wrote: 
> My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
> long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
> wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
> trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency - that's
> always around!
> BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
> 
> What a terrible story!
> 
> This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire and
> she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
> the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
> burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
> place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
> outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for
> your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
> > In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge 
> > snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there 
> > because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 
> > 13 cats, and I had "just" moved back with my two cats because I 
> > couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in 
> > the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and 
> > putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the 
> > door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement 
> > ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats 
> > most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
> lungs.
> > 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread Susan Hoffman
We had a house fire in 2007.  I threw a couple of cats out the back door before 
running out the front myself.  Those cats actually came back in the house!

We were lucky.  The fire department put the fire out before the floor 
combusted.  (The fire started in the basement underneath us.)  All the cats ran 
to the front of the house and hid under the sofa and loveseat.  No one was 
killed in the fire.  We were so lucky.

--- On Fri, 12/2/11, GRAS  wrote:

> From: GRAS 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Friday, December 2, 2011, 3:04 PM
> My father even burned his corneas
> trying to save the cats (was OK in the
> long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually
> running on a
> wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut
> he still kept
> trying.  Another great idea is to use 
> pillowcases in any emergency - that's
> always around!
> BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run
> back.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> On Behalf Of Lorrie
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire
> 
> What a terrible story!
> 
> This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her
> house was on fire and
> she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back
> inside and died in
> the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue
> your cats from a
> burning house, but cats will always run back inside because
> this is the
> place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in
> carriers or in your car
> outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been
> terribly difficult for
> your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this
> can be done.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
> > In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a
> night of a huge 
> > snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard
> time getting there 
> > because side street were not plowed, especially not at
> 3 AM. They had 
> > 13 cats, and I had "just" moved back with my two cats
> because I 
> > couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the
> cats died in 
> > the fire, although my father was running around,
> grabbing them and 
> > putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back
> as he opened the 
> > door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found
> in the basement 
> > ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not
> stiff!) - poor cats 
> > most probably died from smoke inhalation because they
> have such tiny
> lungs.
> > 
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread GRAS
My father even burned his corneas trying to save the cats (was OK in the
long run). And as it turned out later, he was actually running on a
wall-to-wall carpet with no floor under it anymoreBut he still kept
trying.  Another great idea is to use  pillowcases in any emergency - that's
always around!
BTW - horses do the same when a barn is on fire; they run back.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:40 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

What a terrible story!

This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on fire and
she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in
the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a
burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the
place they feel safe.  Always put your cats in carriers or in your car
outside your home.  With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for
your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done.

Lorrie

On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
> In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge 
> snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there 
> because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 
> 13 cats, and I had "just" moved back with my two cats because I 
> couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in 
> the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and 
> putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the 
> door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement 
> ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats 
> most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny
lungs.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread Peggy Verdonck-Riley
My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground
outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it
behind them.
I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home!

On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, "Lorrie"  wrote:

> What a terrible story!
>
> This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on
> fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back
> inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to
> rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back
> inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your
> cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats this
> would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are
> only one or two cats this can be done.
>
> Lorrie
>
> On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
> > In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
> > snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there because
> > side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats,
> and I
> > had "just" moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my
> > apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my
> > father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed
> > porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was
> > rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft
> > and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke
> > inhalation because they have such tiny lungs.
> >
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-02 Thread Lorrie
What a terrible story!

This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine.  Her house was on
fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back
inside and died in the fire.  God forbid any of you ever have to
rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back
inside because this is the place they feel safe.  Always put your
cats in carriers or in your car outside your home.  With 13 cats this
would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are
only one or two cats this can be done.

Lorrie

On 12-02, GRAS wrote:
> In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
> snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there because
> side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I
> had "just" moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my
> apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my
> father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed
> porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was
> rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft
> and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke
> inhalation because they have such tiny lungs.
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

2011-12-02 Thread GRAS
The only other fluids could be ascites, from cancer in the area.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 10:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained

 




Thank-you everybody for sweet words and positive thoughts..Horus is doing
well considering, I think he's filling up again, getting a paunch again. The
tests results might be back tomorrow but most likely sometime next week.
Does somebody have experience seeing almost clear fluid? The tech said
didn't look like FIP to her..but don't know if FIP is like other diseases
that doesn't have a defined characteristic(in this case different looking
fluid vs thick yellow liquid)

He's on amoxi for a bacterial infection, sub-q's everyother day or as
needed.

 He's too sweet. he always was, except hours after rescue was the hissiest
of the litter but as months passed Horus turned into a  very laidback, purr
machine kitty, 

Marta



 

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--- On Fri, 12/2/11, dlg...@windstream.net  wrote:


From: dlg...@windstream.net 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, December 2, 2011, 3:14 AM

Here are more prayers for Hortus and you.  Poor baby, he must be miserable
and you must be also having to see him suffering.  I do hope he gets better
soon.
.
 Bonnie Hogue http://us.mc1102.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ho...@sonic.net> > wrote: 
> Holding a good thought for you and Horus, Marta.
> 
> Hang in there!
> 
> ~Bonnie
> 
>  
> 
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 ] On Behalf Of Marta Gasper
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 10:50 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Horus was drained
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Horus got his belly drained today, he had almos 1 liter of fluid, poor
baby!
> And it wasn't classic; it was transparent green fluid, sent a PCR,
cytology
> and fluid analysis..he's being subq'ed regularly and eats lots, weighed a
> pound & 1/2  more but don't know if that was before they drained the
fluid.
> But even so his bones stick out so he's losing protein somehow. It is
> serious, whatever it is, not sure is curable..tests will be back in 3-5
days
> 
> Marta
> 
>   http://homelessnomore.webs.com/
> 
>  
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] foster needed for lonely FeLV cat and/or non felv cat - philadelphia area

2011-12-02 Thread GRAS
In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge
snowstorm, 3'!  The fire department had a hard time getting there because
side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I
had "just" moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my
apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my
father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed
porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was
rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft
and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke
inhalation because they have such tiny lungs.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] foster needed for lonely FeLV cat and/or non felv
cat - philadelphia area

I hope the boys find a foster hom son.  I would volunteer but am no way near
215 area code.  I can offer my prayers for them and you.  Bless you for
caring for them and finding homes for them.

 dana giordano  wrote: 
> Hi all, This came across a rescue list I am on, and I wanted to pass it
on.
> The lady had a fire, and is waiting for her house to be rebuilt. It 
> took longer than expected, and two of her foster volunteers could not
extend.
> 
> If you or anyone you know might be interested, please don't hesitate 
> to contact Susan at susani...@msn.com or 215-435-5273. Thanks so much!
> 
> 
> *From: *Susan Finkelstein 
> *Date: *November 30, 2011 10:54:31 PM EST
> *Subject: **[UCNeighbors] Fire Cats in need of short-term fostering*
> 
> Hi, all! A couple of months ago, some friends had posted a note for me 
> on this list after we suffered a terrible house fire over at 
> Springfield and St. Bernard. It was a call for help placing my cats 
> who had survived the fire (sadly, we lost a third recently due to 
> complications from the event) in temporary foster homes. The response 
> was wonderful: I managed to place 8 cats in 8 separate foster homes: a 
> minor miracle for anyone who has ever tried to find foster homes for 
> animals. It was a huge relief for me, amid all the chaos and grief and 
> stress surrounding the fire and the ensuing issues.
> 
> Needless to say, our house is nowhere near on the schedule for 
> reconstruction originally given to us by the contractors (wrangling 
> with the insurance and mortgage companies mostly to blame). As a 
> result, I am now faced with needing to find new foster homes for two 
> cats within the next week or so (of course, our house is nowhere near 
> the completion date that the contractors originally gave us), and was 
> wondering if you might know of any folks who would be willing to take 
> a cat in for something like
> 4-6 weeks.
> 
> Habib, a 13-year-old neutered fat "creamsicle" cat (I call him that 
> because he is orange and white), is very funny, friendly, and 
> talkative, and his current foster parents love him, but have 
> obligations to be away come mid-December and cannot continue to care 
> for him. Martini is an orange tabby, neutered, about 6 years old, but 
> FeLV positive. He has NEVER exhibited any signs of illness (he was 
> minutes away from euthanasia as a tiny kitten in the ER at the Penn 
> Vet Hospital, where I worked, when I whisked him home), so he appears 
> to be a carrier of the virus, but it would be best for him to be in a 
> home without other cats, or maybe with other cats who also have tested 
> positive. Currently, he is sequestered in one room in a neighbor's 
> house (due to another resident cat), and cries a lot, and is very 
> lonely. It breaks my heart. He is a true people cat and seems very
depressed without human companionship.
> 
> If you or anyone you know might be interested, please don't hesitate 
> to contact me at susani...@msn.com or 215-435-5273. Thanks so much!


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