Re: [Felvtalk] News from Winn Foundation on Possible Treatment of FeLV

2012-01-05 Thread Maureen Olvey

This is very encouraging.  I hope it turns out to be a wonder drug that could 
save a lot of lives.  Keep praying.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:02:30 -0800
From: cline...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] News from Winn Foundation on Possible Treatment of FeLV



Just saw this article.
Treatment for feline leukemia virus 
http://winnfelinehealth.blogspot.com/2012/01/treatment-for-feline-leukemia-virus.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation+%28Cat+Health+News+from+the+Winn+Feline+Foundation%29
 
Feline leukemia virus is a retrovirus of cats that can cause cancer, anemia and 
immunosuppression. Currently, no effective treatment for FeLV infection exists. 
These researchers investigated the usefulness of an anti-retroviral drug called 
raltegrevir that was developed for treatment of HIV in humans. The researchers 
tested the drug in a laboratory setting for potential toxicity to feline cells, 
as well as the ability to inhibit the replication of FeLV in these cells. It 
was found that, at least in cell culture, this drug inhibited virus replication 
and did not cause toxic changes to the feline cells. The researchers speculate 
that this drug could be used to reduce virus replication in FeLV-infected cats 
to the point that their own immune system could eliminate the virus, 
effectively curing the infection. Many more studies are needed, but this 
research offers a promising first step. [MK]
 
Will be something we will definitely want to follow
 
Sharyl

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Re: [Felvtalk] News from Winn Foundation on Possible Treatment of FeLV

2012-01-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Oh also, perhaps you've already discussed
http://www.lukaska.com/portfolio/brochures/LTCI-product-brochure.pdf ?

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.comwrote:

 I wonder if Dr. Sam Chachoua would be able to help with Felv, as he has
 helped with other retroviruses---or at least their effects (that is, AIDS
 from HIV).

 On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Just saw this article.
 Treatment for feline leukemia virus

 http://winnfelinehealth.blogspot.com/2012/01/treatment-for-feline-leukemia-virus.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+CatHealthNewsFromTheWinnFelineFoundation+%28Cat+Health+News+from+the+Winn+Feline+Foundation%29

 Feline leukemia virus is a retrovirus of cats that can cause cancer,
 anemia and immunosuppression. Currently, no effective treatment for FeLV
 infection exists. These researchers investigated the usefulness of an
 anti-retroviral drug called raltegrevir that was developed for treatment of
 HIV in humans. The researchers tested the drug in a laboratory setting for
 potential toxicity to feline cells, as well as the ability to inhibit the
 replication of FeLV in these cells. It was found that, at least in cell
 culture, this drug inhibited virus replication and did not cause toxic
 changes to the feline cells. The researchers speculate that this drug could
 be used to reduce virus replication in FeLV-infected cats to the point that
 their own immune system could eliminate the virus, effectively curing the
 infection. Many more studies are needed, but this research offers a
 promising first step. [MK]

 Will be something we will definitely want to follow

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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread GRAS
But if you ask for the 3-yr vaccine, you won't have to do it every year!

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Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live in th
woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can pass
rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
 I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case
I
 didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies
vaccinations
 will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I
need
 to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything
else
 out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know
they
 were doing more research studies.
 Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've
been
 to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then
the
 next  year they get the 3 year one.  
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread Marcia
The Rabiies vac is definitely a state thing, Then ultimately County by county. 
Makes no sense does it? If it was really about protection then ALL counties 
should require it. Rabid animals don't care about crossing a county line!! As 
far as vets giving core vaccines once a year, in my opinion it is 
irresponsible. They know better.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2012, at 4:51 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 Yup, that's the idea!  The FVRCP, for example, according to a protocol of a
 few years ago, should be given every 3 yrs now, but they still insist on the
 yearly ones; in fact, after the first series, technically, a cat is
 protected for life.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 5:31 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
   I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case I
   didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies vaccinations
   will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I need
   to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything else
   out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know they
   were doing more research studies.
   Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've been
   to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then the
   next  year they get the 3 year one.  
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread Marcia
I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other rodents 
don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the heaviest carriers. 
The East coast, for some reason is the largest region of raccoons carrying 
rabies!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live in th 
 woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can pass 
 rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
   I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case I
   didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies vaccinations
   will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I need
   to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything else
   out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know they
   were doing more research studies.
   Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've been
   to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then the
   next  year they get the 3 year one.  
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread GRAS
The excuse is that if vaccines weren't required yearly, pet owners wouldn't
bring in their animals for checking their health.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:37 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

The Rabiies vac is definitely a state thing, Then ultimately County by
county. Makes no sense does it? If it was really about protection then ALL
counties should require it. Rabid animals don't care about crossing a county
line!! As far as vets giving core vaccines once a year, in my opinion it is
irresponsible. They know better.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2012, at 4:51 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 Yup, that's the idea!  The FVRCP, for example, according to a protocol 
 of a few years ago, should be given every 3 yrs now, but they still 
 insist on the yearly ones; in fact, after the first series, 
 technically, a cat is protected for life.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 5:31 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
   I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case I
   didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies vaccinations
   will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I need
   to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything else
   out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know they
   were doing more research studies.
   Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've been
   to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then the
   next  year they get the 3 year one.  
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread GRAS
The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, after
destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they brought
them from Virginal and surrounding states.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other rodents
don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the heaviest
carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest region of raccoons
carrying rabies!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live in
th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can pass
rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
   I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case I
   didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies vaccinations
   will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I need
   to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything else
   out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know they
   were doing more research studies.
   Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've been
   to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then the
   next  year they get the 3 year one.  
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread Marcia Baronda
Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, after
 destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they brought
 them from Virginal and surrounding states.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other rodents
 don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the heaviest
 carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest region of raccoons
 carrying rabies!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live in
 th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can pass
 rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
  I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case I
  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies vaccinations
  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I need
  to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything else
  out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know they
  were doing more research studies.
  Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've been
  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then the
  next  year they get the 3 year one.  
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread GRAS
Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in the
East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were killed, whether
sick or not.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
2010. 

On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, 
 after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they 
 brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other 
 rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the 
 heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest 
 region of raccoons carrying rabies!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I 
 live in
 th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can 
 pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
  I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in 
 case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies 
 vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  
 Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see 
 if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last longer 
 than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research studies.
  Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've 
 been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and 
 then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread Marcia Baronda
That infuriates me. Such a waste of life! Sometimes I think the wildlife should 
be armed!

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On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
 They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in the
 East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were killed, whether
 sick or not.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.
 
 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
 2010. 
 
 On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, 
 after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they 
 brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other 
 rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the 
 heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest 
 region of raccoons carrying rabies!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I 
 live in
 th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can 
 pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
 I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in 
 case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies 
 vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  
 Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see 
 if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last longer 
 than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research studies.
 Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've 
 been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and 
 then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread Marcia Baronda
Oh, Thank you for the info. I'm going to do some reading on this(-:

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
 They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in the
 East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were killed, whether
 sick or not.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.
 
 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
 2010. 
 
 On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, 
 after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they 
 brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other 
 rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the 
 heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest 
 region of raccoons carrying rabies!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I 
 live in
 th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can 
 pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
 I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in 
 case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies 
 vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  
 Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see 
 if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last longer 
 than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research studies.
 Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've 
 been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and 
 then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread MaiMaiPG
To make matters worse, raccoons get canine distemper which a lot of  
people assume is rabies and...

On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS wrote:


Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak  
in the
East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were killed,  
whether

sick or not.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia  
Baronda

Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with,  
Christmas

2010.

On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:


The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters,
after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so  
they

brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other
rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the
heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest
region of raccoons carrying rabies!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:


My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I
live in
th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that  
can
pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I  
don't.

 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.

On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:

I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in
case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies
vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.
Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see
if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last longer
than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research  
studies.

Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've
been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination  
and

then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.




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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread Marcia
That all depends on your city laws. For instance our small town only recognizes 
the three year vac good for 2 years. ThAts laws being made by people that don't 
know what they're talking about!!

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On Jan 5, 2012, at 8:01 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 But if you ask for the 3-yr vaccine, you won't have to do it every year!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:49 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live in th
 woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can pass
 rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
 
 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
   I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case
 I
   didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies
 vaccinations
   will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I
 need
   to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything
 else
   out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know
 they
   were doing more research studies.
   Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've
 been
   to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then
 the
   next  year they get the 3 year one.  
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread GRAS
That's right, and looking at them, you can't tell which it is - but without
treatment, it kills them just like rabies does.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

To make matters worse, raccoons get canine distemper which a lot of people
assume is rabies and...
On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS wrote:

 Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
 They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in 
 the East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were 
 killed, whether sick or not.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia 
 Baronda
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

 Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.

 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, 
 Christmas 2010.

 On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, 
 after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so 
 they brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

 I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other 
 rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the 
 heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest 
 region of raccoons carrying rabies!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I 
 live in
 th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that 
 can pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i 
 I don't.
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.

 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
 I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in 
 case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies 
 vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.
 Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see 
 if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last longer 
 than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research 
 studies.
 Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've 
 been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination 
 and then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread MaiMaiPG
According to Fish and Wildlife, there is no way to treat wild  
raccoonsno comment.

On Jan 5, 2012, at 5:56 PM, GRAS wrote:

That's right, and looking at them, you can't tell which it is - but  
without

treatment, it kills them just like rabies does.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 3:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

To make matters worse, raccoons get canine distemper which a lot of  
people

assume is rabies and...
On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS wrote:


Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in
the East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were
killed, whether sick or not.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
Baronda
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with,
Christmas 2010.

On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by  
hunters,

after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so
they brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other
rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the
heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest
region of raccoons carrying rabies!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:


My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I
live in

th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that
can pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i
I don't.

 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.

On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:

I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in
case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies
vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.
Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see
if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last  
longer

than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research
studies.
Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've
been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination
and then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.




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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread dlgegg
And moma fox has a den just 30 feet from my deck plus raccoons come up to eat 
left over seed birds leave.  Also possums and everything else around hre.  Only 
one that doesnot come real close to the house is my mountain lion, he stays the 
distance from 1 utility pole to the next one.  


 Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other rodents 
 don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the heaviest carriers. 
 The East coast, for some reason is the largest region of raccoons carrying 
 rabies!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live in 
  th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can pass 
  rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
   Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
  I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
  and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
  
  On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case I
didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies vaccinations
will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I need
to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything else
out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know they
were doing more research studies.
Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've been
to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then the
next  year they get the 3 year one.  
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread dlgegg
Got to talk to the boy about that.  Would be easier on my babies and cheaper.  
He knows I bring them in at the first hint of a problem so he would not have to 
worry about them never being seen.  He said once that if everyone took te care 
I do of my babies, there woul b o sick cats and dogs around.

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 But if you ask for the 3-yr vaccine, you won't have to do it every year!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:49 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
 
 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live in th
 woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can pass
 rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
  I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
  and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
  
  On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
  I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case
 I
  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies
 vaccinations
  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I
 need
  to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything
 else
  out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know
 they
  were doing more research studies.
  Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've
 been
  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then
 the
  next  year they get the 3 year one.  
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread Lynda Wilson
Mountain Lion? Holy smoke, 1 utility pole to the next is still too close for 
me!! You definitely must live in the mountainssounds beautiful though!!
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine


And moma fox has a den just 30 feet from my deck plus raccoons come up to 
eat left over seed birds leave.  Also possums and everything else around 
hre.  Only one that doesnot come real close to the house is my mountain 
lion, he stays the distance from 1 utility pole to the next one.



 Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other 
rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the 
heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest region 
of raccoons carrying rabies!


Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live 
 in th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that 
 can pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I 
 don't.

  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.

 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
   I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in 
 case I
   didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies 
 vaccinations
   will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I 
 need
   to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything 
 else
   out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know 
 they

   were doing more research studies.
   Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've 
 been
   to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then 
 the

   next  year they get the 3 year one.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread dlgegg
Sounds like the mayor of silex.  They moved the town up on the hill because it 
kept geting flooded.  The had written rules about what you could and could not 
do, like no one could have more than 1 dog and no one could have a fenced area 
with dog houses.  Dogs have to be kept in house and walked on a leash.  1 man 
has 4 dogs and 4 pens for them at the back of his house and they are on somene 
else's land. And the list of stupid laws keeps changing every day.  Sure glad I 
live on a buff about 2 miles out of town, don't have to put up with that 
nonsense. i ALSO DON'T HAVE HOUSES 30' FROM MY HOUSE.  cATS AND i HAVE 25 ACRES 
TO ROAM.

 Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 That all depends on your city laws. For instance our small town only 
 recognizes the three year vac good for 2 years. ThAts laws being made by 
 people that don't know what they're talking about!!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 5, 2012, at 8:01 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  But if you ask for the 3-yr vaccine, you won't have to do it every year!
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  dlg...@windstream.net
  Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 7:49 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
  
  My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I live in th
  woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can pass
  rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
   Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
  I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
  and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
  
  On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in case
  I
didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies
  vaccinations
will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  Interesting huh?  I
  need
to  check  out  that group again to see if they've found anything
  else
out  or if it actually last longer than the 4 years even.  I know
  they
were doing more research studies.
Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've
  been
to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and then
  the
next  year they get the 3 year one.  
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread dlgegg
There are times that I think they are more civilized than humans are.  At 
lease, they are more honest!  If you step on a cat's tail, you know it will 
bite or at least scratch you.


 Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 That infuriates me. Such a waste of life! Sometimes I think the wildlife 
 should be armed!
 
 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
 2010. 
 
 On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
  They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in the
  East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were killed, whether
  sick or not.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
  
  Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.
  
  Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
  2010. 
  
  On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:
  
  The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters, 
  after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they 
  brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine
  
  I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other 
  rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the 
  heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest 
  region of raccoons carrying rabies!
  
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  
  My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I 
  live in
  th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can 
  pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I don't.
   Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
  I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
  and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.
  
  On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
  I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in 
  case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies 
  vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.  
  Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see 
  if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last longer 
  than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research studies.
  Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've 
  been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and 
  then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

2012-01-05 Thread Lynda Wilson

Amen to that!
- Original Message - 
From: dlg...@windstream.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine


There are times that I think they are more civilized than humans are.  At 
lease, they are more honest!  If you step on a cat's tail, you know it 
will bite or at least scratch you.



 Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
That infuriates me. Such a waste of life! Sometimes I think the wildlife 
should be armed!


Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
2010.


On Jan 5, 2012, at 11:31 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 Sorry, in my haste to write, I made a mistake: I meant VIRGINIA!
 They hunters did that in  the late 80s, so the big rabies outbreak in 
 the
 East happened in the early 90s, almost all the raccoons were killed, 
 whether

 sick or not.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia 
 Baronda

 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:29 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

 Damn hunters!! That makes me sick. And sooo lame.

 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, 
 Christmas

 2010.

 On Jan 5, 2012, at 9:05 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 The Mid-Atlantic strain of rabies was brought to the East by hunters,
 after destroying local raccoons, wanted more raccoons to kill, so they
 brought them from Virginal and surrounding states.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia
 Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 9:43 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Rabies vaccine

 I just did some reading on rabies and it appears that mice and other
 rodents don't carry Rabies. Raccoons foxes and bats look to be the
 heaviest carriers. The East coast, for some reason is the largest
 region of raccoons carrying rabies!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:48 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 My vet reccommends evey year, but my guys go outside andbecause I
 live in
 th woods, are exposed to raccoon, possum, mice, fox and othes that can
 pass rabbies on.  I am in a quandry, sort of dmned if I do and i I 
 don't.

  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 I'm sure the vets make more money by first giving a 1 year vac.
 and then giving the 3 year vac a year later.

 On 01-04, Maureen Olvey wrote:
 I  think  I  might  have mentioned it to you guys before but in
 case I  didn't,  studies have shown that the normal 1 year rabies
 vaccinations  will  provide immunity for at least 4 years.
 Interesting huh?  I need  to  check  out  that group again to see
 if they've found anything else  out  or if it actually last longer
 than the 4 years even.  I know they  were doing more research 
 studies.

 Will  most  vets give the 3 year one to a kitten?  Most vets I've
 been  to  recommend that the kittens get the 1 year vaccination and
 then the  next  year they get the 3 year one.



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