date:20060206









Michelle, I would like you to know I so
very appreciate your advise  since I am feeling very subjective on this
topic, sometimes, I dont see things in such a manner which can put my
cats at risk and so I so appreciate your and Merrys objective evaluation
on the issue --- more than anything, I am grateful for you spending every second
thinking about my situation with my kitties.



One time, I mentioned to Greg (who is also
a lawyer), Honey, I think I can be a pretty good lawyer, because I can
make a good argument  and he looked at me and said is that
what you think about lawyers?, and I said yeah they argue,
thats what they do.. and Greg said,,,arguing does not
necessary make a good lawyer, in my career, I have spent more time negotiating for
my clients and the opponents and mediating the situations so that people decide
to meet somewhere in the middle --- he is a PI lawyer, and does some criminal
and domestic relations.. and lots of times, its about mediation
--- and he is so good at it, too --- so for the same reason, I really
appreciate you trying to direct me to the direction which will be safest for my
cats --- as I said before, I can get so stuck with being right,, and dont
do what IS right sometimes



Hideyo











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006
10:13 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Another disaster





Live and learn, eh, Michelle? Isn't it
interesting how we seem to find ourselves in positions that force us to work on
our less than strong points?
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Just to be clear, I am not very good
at staying calm myself and do feel quite angry about what people have been
putting Hideyo and other rescuers through. But as a lawyer I know I have
to evaluate all the options in terms of chances of success and amounts of risk,
and that is alI I was advocating doing. I actually have been accused by
colleagues of having hair trigger responses at times rather than
taking a step back and figuring out a more measured response, and it is
something that I constantly struggle with. I am learning it a lot more
now, because my new job is almost entirely policy work, and I am working on
large issues that I have to negotiate with state agencies about, where there is
not much recourse beyond convincing them to do the right thing. I am more used
to negotiating with agencies over issues that arise in individual cases, where
there is something I can go to court about if the negotiations do not get a
favorable resolution. But now I am negotiating about new policies that are not
actually prohibited or mandated by law, and without individual clients, and it
feels a lot different. I can't just stop negotiating at some point and say I
will take it before a judge. I have to just keep calm and keep
negotiating. It is a new and somewhat uncomfortable position for me, the
zealous advocate, but I think it is an important skill to be able to draw
on. There may be times that I have ended up in court with clients where I
did not have to if I had been a better negotiator.











Michelle











In a message dated 2/4/2006 5:04:16 P.M. Eastern
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:





I know Michelle is right about being calm and taking
the safe way out. But I know how it goes against the grain and can make
you so angry.

RE: Another disaster - update









Tonya, moving can be my last
resort --- its certainly not impossible  fortunately, the
property value in my area doubled within the past year or two, so I can get
pretty good money for my house.. but I also take care of about 5 or 6 o f feral
cat colonies in the neighborhood (I go feed them around midnight) and it will
make the tasks a little more difficult if I dont live near where I live
now.  I also spent lots of money converting my house with enclosures so that
they can take sun bath and get fresh air --- so I really hate to give up on the
house.  But again, if it comes to that, it will be always an option











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006
1:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Another disaster -
update







Good Lord!











I know this is NOT what you want to hear. But if I were you I
would not rush into anything, but I would start looking for a place to
move. I know you've spent tons to get your house the way you wanted,
etc... but still I would start looking.











You know I just moved this summer. It was a LONG search because I
wanted to find a place with some privacy and acerage with NO neighbors too
close and NO stupid association. This is NOT easy to find where I live
and took quite a while, but I finally lucked up on a pretty deserted little
road where the houses are zoned at 2 acres and no less.











The house I finally found is not what I personally wanted, but it's
perfect for my animals. It's private. It's not in a subdivision at
all, and I've got nearly 2 acres. Yes, it's needed work. But
there's NO ONE to complain if I want to set cat cages behind my house or have
too many cats laying in the front bay window.











It was THE MAJOR decision maker on my buying this house. There
are some neighbors close enough to complain if the dogs bark too much, but I
even looked around to see if some of the nearby houses have dogs that bark too,
and they do. lol. I think I told you before that I had an aquaintance go
through something similar to what you're going through. So I knew when I
moved I would buy the safest thing possible for the critters so that I could
hopefully enjoy what you are going through now.











Hell, if it weren't for the cats and dogsI'd live in a condo with
little or no upkeep for a lot less money. lol.











t

Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







I thought about it, but I dont
think so, but I am not 100% sure --- he lives with girlfriend, and she is not
US citizen, I think she is somewhere form south America, - it does not mean
that she doesnt have anything against Japanese  but its
hard to say.. it looks like he is trying sell the house soon, so I hope he does
---











Also, Greg just found out that someone
shot his car window with a gun (I think) last night or something.. I
think this is about 2nd or 3rd time his car got some type
of damages  what a timing.. I hope he does not think we had anything to
do it.. (Greg thought he might)  now I am a bit freaking out, if he
think so, and if he tries to poison my cats through the outside
enclosures I am a bit paranoid now..



















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006
10:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Another disaster -
update

















Hideyo, I hate to even suggest this but your comment about
the neighbor not wanting people with certain ethnicities in his neighborhood
made me wonder-- do you think that any of his animosity, or the animosity of
the other guy, could be racism against you because you are Japanese? New Mexico
is kind of known for being racially divided, and when I lived there for 3
months I could not believe how much blatant racism there was. What I saw
was mostly racism against Native Americans and Latinos, but I would not be
surprised if some of the white people there are racist against anyone who is
from another country and/or is not white. If you think this might be part
of what is going on, I think you need to tell your lawyers about it because it
is relevant to the complaints, and it might also be something you want to
mention to the ALCU if they are still considering doing an amicus brief.



















Michelle



















In a message dated 2/1/2006 6:08:50 PM Eastern Standard
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:









Actually I put everything in the house for
now  they really cannot complain what I have inside of the house --- to
tell you the truth, if he wants to sell the house, it will probably sell in two
days.. the market value of my neighborhood has gone way up by almost 100% for
the past year or two and everyone who tries to sell the house in the area gets
offered in ½ to 2 days and sell it --- so I really dont think that he is
going to have any problems but again, I really cannot control the way he
thinks.

RE: One last URGENT plea for help...

I hope you can work something out. I have been so torn by this little guy. But I have 7 who don't get along and I can barely take care of as it is and I may be taking in a positive foster here if no other home can be found...:( tPatricia Lamoretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TAD Wheres there a will, theres a way Its too late (or maybe too early) for me to call Jen tonight I can call her tomorrow she could get him to Ashville or there were some Delta staff who had volunteered to fly small Katrina pets in the cabins with them! Maybe I can find
out about that Whats the best way of getting you and Jen together to talk? Can she call you? She has a bunch of pictures of Switters she could send She has his med records, etc.THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tad BurnettSent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:06 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: One last URGENT plea for help...Chris I could take him but I am way up here in Vermont...Is there any way you could get him as far as Albanyor NYC or New England areaI know there were several rescue people from BostonMass. area that have been back and forth and brought some back with them Don't know if there is any chanceof hooking up with themTadChris wrote: I posted
before about Switters the Katrina kitten found on the street by a New Orleans resident after the hurricane. I met Jean through group Im in working to reunite Katrina pets with their owner. Shes nursed him back to health, domesticated him, chipped him, neutered him and generally brought him back to health! He is FELV+. She has to move out of state next week and cannot take him with her. She has contacted every rescue group and feline organization she could find. She has asked her friends and neighbors but part of the problem is that those handful of people who have returned to New Orleans are all taking care of other pets found in the street! ALL shelters in the Gulf Coast areas are full; almost none are no-kill and almost all would euthanize Switters because of his FELV.Jean, his caretaker, found a place in Ashville that will take her and her three cats but landlord would not even consider a fourth catgo figure. Her cats hate Switters and she really cant just keep them separate.Someone told Jean, Switters caretaker, about a place called animal rescue in Denver but she knows nothing about it nor can she afford to fly Switters up there. Jean has talked to Marleys fund and they are full but put him on a waiting list. Jean is moving to Ashville. Is there anyone in the area who could even foster Switters until Marleys fund could take
him. Jean says he really is a people person cat who is very sweet. He tries with the other cats but they just wont accept him.Ive got 5 adult cats in my apt and live with turf wars so adding one more would just put everybody over the edge. Anybody out there who might be able to help? This little guy went thru so much to stay alive! This is Switters. Chris 914-632-4672 [EMAIL PROTECTED]__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: Bailey Update

Belinda,I obviously can't understand it. With the bloodwork looking so much better! I hope you find an answer soon. Give Bailey extra kisses from me.tBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All,Well Bailey's results today show all organ functions are normal, all bloodwork except amylase is normal (it is high but not high enough at this point to be concerned) and his HCT is up to 27%, getting close to normal, so even though his anemia is getting better he is not ... He is still physically deteriorating. His muscle mass is all but gone, he still sleeps 24/7, we did finally clear up the diarrhea, and he is a bit wobbly in the back end when he walks. I can see the wasting getting worse daily.We are going to do an Xray of
his lungs to see if there are any enlargedlymph nodes or tumors we are missing, something is going on that we aremissing. I feel there is cancer somewhere and we aren't finding it, every cat I have had or known with cancer had this muscle wasting happen.We were going to try leukeran, but my vet talked with Dr. Lappin DVM aFeLV expert and he said it won't do any good in his opinion, he said ourbest bet is to add anabolic steriods, which are hard to get because these are the steriods that athletes abuse. She is going to try and get some. She printed me out some information and it say's that some FeLV positives that are anemic and preleukemia can turn actively leukemic very quickly, in a matter of months or even weeks. This is one possibility of why even though the anemia seems to be turning around, Bailey is getting worse. If we find this is the case, I am going to ask to do chemo along with the steriods, I know the prognosis
isn't good but the steriods will only take care of the muscle wasting and I want to attack the cancer if that is what we have also. The only way to determine if this has happened for a fact is to do another bone marrow aspirate but since it isn't going to change the way we treat we decided that was unnecessary, it isn't going to change what we do so I see no reason to put him through that again and neither does the vet.Lots of prayers, positive energy and anything else needed, thanks everyone.-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web
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Scotch

Hi Amy,I wanted to add my condolences for your loss of Scotch. He'll be waiting for you at the bridge.tonyaNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amy,I'm sorry it was time to say goodbye to little Scotch. He looked like such a character, what a darling face! It's always so hard, it never gets easier. I can tell from the way you told us about his passing, you are doing your best to face it stoically. (I can just picture you crying into your pillow, late at night when no one is looking to you for strength). Blessings to you and your family. Let us know how the testing goes and if you have success in fattening up your skinny minny. I'm thinking of you,NinaAmy Watson wrote: Many thanks to all of you for the information on dry
food. What Nina said about dry food once being recommended for dental health is what I had always believed. In fact, I always thought about my mother saying, "Don't get them started on canned food, or that's all they'll want!" We have started feeding our fat cat just canned now. We have a skinny one (a Siberian who is supposed to be 20 lbs according to breed recommendations, but is only 9 despite being an adult at least 3 years old) that will be allowed to finish the dry we already have in the house. Incidentally, we had to let our Scotch go yesterday. He was severely anemic, and his prognosis had no real hope in it at all. He taught us so much - we'll be better able to care for his sister and distant cousin who are still with us and healthy, and scheduled for testing this Friday. Best, Amy --
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Wysong Food For free

2006-02-06 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell

I've got three unopened bags of the wheat/corn free Wysong that my cats 
won't touch. If someone wants it, pay shipping and it's yours!


Steph

RE: Another disappointment -









Hi, everyone, I just checked the agendas
on city councilors meeting today which the moratorium on the 10% rule
was supposed to be introduced by city councilor, Sally who has been working on
the new ordinance and its not even listed as an agenda --- she was
supposed to do so back in January, and is very disappointing..



Hideyo











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006
6:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Another disaster







Hideyo,





 Merry just called me to update me on your case,
and she seems very positive about the moratorium on the 10% rule getting passed
soon and you getting a permit and the city dropping the criminal charge and
civil case. We all need to keep our fingers crossed, of course, because
it's not over til it's over and things always seem to happen. But Merry
really does feel pretty certain that at some point this will all go away, at
least for you. There will still be the need to lobby agains the limit law
of course, but let's hope she's right about your case!











Michelle

RE: Another disaster - update

I know you've put a lot into the place where you are. I just think if I were you I would always keep an eye out for something suitable, not put too much more money into 'cat things' for the place etc Because when it comes down to it, these limits and bans are on the rise throughout the country. I don't think they are going to go away anytime soon unless something major changes. Just look at everything going on with the pit bull bans.I found a house I liked a hundred times more than the one I bought, but when I read the homeowners' association's bylaws and rules and regulations I couldn't believe it! I had already put an offer on the house and it had been accepted. I had talked to other people about their homeowners' associations and though I wasn't happy about it, I had decided I could live with it.Well,I decided to go ahead and ask for a copy to actually read them
myself. WhenI actually read the bylaws and realized all they 'could' do if they 'wanted' to do everything by the letter.. I got out of my contract and bought the house not ina subdivision.You just never know what the future holds. tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Tonya, moving can be my last resort --- its certainly not impossible fortunately, the property value in my area doubled within the past year or two, so I can get pretty good money for my house.. but I also take care of about 5 or 6 o f feral cat colonies in the neighborhood (I go feed them around midnight) and it will make the tasks a little more difficult if I dont live near where I live now. I also spent lots of money converting my house with enclosures so that they can take sun bath and get fresh air --- so I really hate to give up on the house. But again, if it comes to that, it will be always an
optionFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:00 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Another disaster - update Good Lord!I know this is NOT what you want to hear. But if I were you I would not rush into anything, but I would start looking for a place to move. I know you've spent tons to get your house the way you wanted, etc... but still I would start looking.
You know I just moved this summer. It was a LONG search because I wanted to find a place with some privacy and acerage with NO neighbors too close and NO stupid association. This is NOT easy to find where I live and took quite a while, but I finally lucked up on a pretty deserted little road where the houses are zoned at 2 acres and no less.The house I finally found is not what I personally wanted, but it's perfect for my animals. It's private. It's not in a
subdivision at all, and I've got nearly 2 acres. Yes, it's needed work. But there's NO ONE to complain if I want to set cat cages behind my house or have too many cats laying in the front bay window.It was THE MAJOR decision maker on my buying this house. There are some neighbors close enough to complain if the dogs bark too much, but I even looked around to see if some of the nearby houses have dogs that bark too, and they do. lol. I think I told you before that I had an aquaintance go through something similar to what you're going through. So I knew when I moved I would buy the safest thing possible for the critters so that I could hopefully enjoy what you are going through
now.Hell, if it weren't for the cats and dogsI'd live in a condo with little or no upkeep for a lot less money. lol.tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought about it, but I dont think so, but I am not 100% sure --- he lives with girlfriend, and she is not US citizen, I think she is somewhere form south America, - it does not mean that she doesnt have anything against Japanese but its hard to say.. it looks like he is trying sell the house soon, so I hope he does ---Also, Greg just found out that someone shot his car window with a gun (I think)
last night or something.. I think this is about 2nd or 3rd time his car got some type of damages what a timing.. I hope he does not think we had anything to do it.. (Greg thought he might) now I am a bit freaking out, if he think so, and if he tries to poison my cats through the outside enclosures I am a bit paranoid now..From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 10:54 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Another disaster - updateHideyo, I hate to even suggest this but your comment about the neighbor not wanting people with certain ethnicities in his neighborhood made me
wonder-- do you think that any of his animosity, or the animosity of the other guy, could be racism against you because you are Japanese? New Mexico is kind of known for being racially divided, and when I lived there for 3 months I could not believe how much

RE: Another disaster - update









I will keep looking.. actually I have been
looking houses for sale just to explore --- I might found a pretty good sized
house with a couple of acre of lands somewhere in the south valley  who knows
J











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006
11:27 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Another disaster -
update







I know you've put a lot into the place where you are. I just
think if I were you I would always keep an eye out for something suitable, not
put too much more money into 'cat things' for the place etc Because
when it comes down to it, these limits and bans are on the rise throughout the
country. I don't think they are going to go away anytime soon unless
something major changes. Just look at everything going on with the pit
bull bans.











I found a house I liked a hundred times more than the one I bought, but
when I read the homeowners' association's bylaws and rules and regulations I
couldn't believe it! I had already put an offer on the house and it had
been accepted. I had talked to other people about their homeowners'
associations and though I wasn't happy about it, I had decided I could live
with it.











Well,I decided to go ahead and ask for a copy to actually read
them myself. WhenI actually read the bylaws and realized all they 'could'
do if they 'wanted' to do everything by the letter.. I got out of my
contract and bought the house not ina subdivision.











You just never know what the future holds. 











t

Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:







Tonya, moving can be my last
resort --- its certainly not impossible  fortunately, the
property value in my area doubled within the past year or two, so I can get
pretty good money for my house.. but I also take care of about 5 or 6 o f feral
cat colonies in the neighborhood (I go feed them around midnight) and it will
make the tasks a little more difficult if I dont live near where I live
now. I also spent lots of money converting my house with enclosures so
that they can take sun bath and get fresh air --- so I really hate to give up
on the house. But again, if it comes to that, it will be always an option



















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006
1:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Another disaster -
update















Good Lord!



















I know this is NOT what you want to hear. But if I were you I
would not rush into anything, but I would start looking for a place to
move. I know you've spent tons to get your house the way you wanted,
etc... but still I would start looking.



















You know I just moved this summer. It was a LONG search because I
wanted to find a place with some privacy and acerage with NO neighbors too
close and NO stupid association. This is NOT easy to find where I live
and took quite a while, but I finally lucked up on a pretty deserted little
road where the houses are zoned at 2 acres and no less.



















The house I finally found is not what I personally wanted, but it's
perfect for my animals. It's private. It's not in a subdivision at
all, and I've got nearly 2 acres. Yes, it's needed work. But
there's NO ONE to complain if I want to set cat cages behind my house or have
too many cats laying in the front bay window.



















It was THE MAJOR decision maker on my buying this house. There
are some neighbors close enough to complain if the dogs bark too much, but I
even looked around to see if some of the nearby houses have dogs that bark too,
and they do. lol. I think I told you before that I had an aquaintance go
through something similar to what you're going through. So I knew when I
moved I would buy the safest thing possible for the critters so that I could
hopefully enjoy what you are going through now.



















Hell, if it weren't for the cats and dogsI'd live in a condo with
little or no upkeep for a lot less money. lol.



















t

Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:











I thought about it, but I dont
think so, but I am not 100% sure --- he lives with girlfriend, and she is not
US citizen, I think she is somewhere form south America, - it does not mean
that she doesnt have anything against Japanese  but its
hard to say.. it looks like he is trying sell the house soon, so I hope he does
---



















Also, Greg just found out that someone
shot his car window with a gun (I think) last night or something.. I
think this is about 2nd or 3rd time his car got some type
of damages  what a timing.. I hope he does not think we had anything to
do it.. (Greg thought he might)  now I am a bit freaking out, if he
think so, and if he tries to poison my cats through the outside
enclosures I am a bit paranoid now..



























From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of

Re: Wysong Food For free

2006-02-06 Thread TatorBunz





What is the cost for shipping?
I'm in WA. state.

In a message dated 2/6/2006 10:19:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I've got three unopened bags of the wheat/corn free Wysong that my cats won't touch. If someone wants it, pay shipping and it's yours!Steph


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Re: Bailey Update





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  - Original Message - 
  From: Belinda 
  Sauro 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:56 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Bailey Update
   Hi All,Well Bailey's results today show all 
  organ functions are normal, all bloodwork except amylase is normal (it is 
  high but not high enough at this point to be concerned) and his HCT is up 
  to 27%, getting close to normal, so even though his anemia is getting 
  better he is not ... He is still physically deteriorating. His 
  muscle mass is all but gone, he still sleeps 24/7, we did finally clear up 
  the diarrhea, and he is a bit wobbly in the back end when he walks. 
  I can see the wasting getting worse daily.We are going to do an 
  Xray of his lungs to see if there are any enlargedlymph nodes or tumors we 
  are missing, something is going on that we aremissing. I feel there 
  is cancer somewhere and we aren't finding it, every cat I have had or 
  known with cancer had this muscle wasting happen.We were going to try 
  leukeran, but my vet talked with Dr. Lappin DVM aFeLV expert and he said 
  it won't do any good in his opinion, he said ourbest bet is to add 
  anabolic steriods, which are hard to get because these are the steriods 
  that athletes abuse. She is going to try and get some. She 
  printed me out some information and it say's that some FeLV positives that 
  are anemic and preleukemia can turn actively leukemic very quickly, in a 
  matter of months or even weeks. This is one possibility of why even 
  though the anemia seems to be turning around, Bailey is getting 
  worse. If we find this is the case, I am going to ask to do chemo 
  along with the steriods, I know the prognosis isn't good but the steriods 
  will only take care of the muscle wasting and I want to attack the cancer 
  if that is what we have also. The only way to determine if this has 
  happened for a fact is to do another bone marrow aspirate but since it 
  isn't going to change the way we treat we decided that was unnecessary, it 
  isn't going to change what we do so I see no reason to put him through 
  that again and neither does the vet.Lots of prayers, positive energy 
  and anything else needed, thanks everyone.-- 
  BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ..Be-Mi-Kitties 
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Re: Angel Scotch





I'm so sorry you lost him. Big hugs to you.

Goodnight, sweet Scotch...

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Amy Watson 
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:59 
  AM
  Subject: thanks for dry food
  
  Many thanks to all of you for the information on dry food. What 
  Nina said about dry food once being recommended for dental health is what I 
  had always believed. In fact, I always thought about my mother saying, 
  "Don't get them started on canned food, or that's all they'll want!" 
  
  
  We have started feeding our fat cat just canned now. We have a 
  skinny one (a Siberian who is supposed to be 20 lbs according to breed 
  recommendations, but is only 9 despite being an adult at least 3 years old) 
  that will be allowed to finish the dry we alreadyhave in the house. 
  
  
  Incidentally, we had to let our Scotch go yesterday. He was 
  severely anemic, and his prognosis had no real hope in it at all. He 
  taught us so much - we'll be better able to care for his sister and distant 
  cousin who are still with us and healthy, and scheduled for testing this 
  Friday. 
  
  Best,
  Amy-- Amy K. WatsonColumbus, Ohiohttp://writerscereal.net

Rabies vaccine

I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?Thanks,Joan

RE: Rabies vaccine









Hi, I personally dont  all of
my vets (I have three) strongly recommend that I do not give the vac to FeLK
kitties --- it compromise their immune system significantly, and it will risk
trigger the illness by giving it  even with healthy ones, I have heard
and seen some scary side effects of rabies vaccinations. If the kitty is
indoor kitty, the possibility of them getting rabies is close to none, so there
really is not ANY reasons why they should get rabies vaccinations and risk
their health for it. As a matter fact, I dont give any rabies to any of
my kitties whether it is FelK positives or negatives.











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joan Doljan
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006
2:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Rabies vaccine







I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies
vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?











Thanks,











Joan

RE: Rabies vaccine

Thanks. I am trying to convince them to change their policy.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, I personally dont  all of my vets (I have three) strongly recommend that I do not give the vac to FeLK kitties --- it compromise their immune system significantly, and it will risk trigger the illness by giving it  even with healthy ones, I have heard and seen some scary side effects of rabies vaccinations. If the kitty is indoor kitty, the possibility of them getting rabies is close to none, so there really is not ANY reasons why they should get rabies
 vaccinations and risk their health for it. As a matter fact, I dont give any rabies to any of my kitties whether it is FelK positives or negatives.From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan DoljanSent: Monday, February
 06, 2006 2:00 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Rabies vaccine  I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?Thanks,Joan

RE: Rabies vaccine

2006-02-06 Thread Doljan, Joan

Title: Message



Thanks.

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
  LoeschSent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:09 PMTo: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Rabies 
  vaccineI don't.Joan Doljan 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies 
vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?

Thanks,

Joan

RE: Bailey Update

Bailey, it's great to hear that all of his organs are normal and even
HCT is very good -- I know it's very frustrating to see him not doing
well regardless of it --- Bailey has been and will be in my thoughts and
prayers and I will be sending you a positive healing energy.

Hideyo

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 12:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bailey Update

   Hi All,
Well Bailey's results today show all organ functions are normal, all 
bloodwork except amylase is normal (it is high but not high enough at 
this point to be concerned) and his HCT is up to 27%, getting close to 
normal, so even though his anemia is getting better he is not ... He is 
still physically deteriorating.  His muscle mass is all but gone, he 
still sleeps 24/7, we did finally clear up the diarrhea, and he is a bit

wobbly in the back end when he walks.  I can see the wasting getting 
worse daily.

We are going to do an Xray of his lungs to see if there are any enlarged
lymph nodes or tumors we are missing, something is going on that we are
missing.  I feel there is cancer somewhere and we aren't finding it, 
every cat I have had or known with cancer had this muscle wasting
happen.

We were going to try leukeran, but my vet talked with Dr. Lappin DVM a
FeLV expert and he said it won't do any good in his opinion, he said our
best bet is to add anabolic steriods, which are hard to get because 
these are the steriods that athletes abuse.  She is going to try and get

some.  She printed me out some information and it say's that some FeLV 
positives that are anemic and preleukemia can turn actively leukemic 
very quickly, in a matter of months or even weeks.  This is one 
possibility of why even though the anemia seems to be turning around, 
Bailey is getting worse.  If we find this is the case, I am going to ask

to do chemo along with the steriods, I know the prognosis isn't good but

the steriods will only take care of the muscle wasting and I want to 
attack the cancer if that is what we have also.  The only way to 
determine if this has happened for a fact is to do another bone marrow 
aspirate but since it isn't going to change the way we treat we decided 
that was unnecessary, it isn't going to change what we do so I see no 
reason to put him through that again and neither does the vet.

Lots of prayers, positive energy and anything else needed, thanks
everyone.

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RE: Rabies vaccine









The policy by the vet or by the state?











From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joan Doljan
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006
2:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Rabies vaccine





Thanks. I am trying to convince them to change their policy.

Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joan Doljan
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006
2:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Rabies vaccine















I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies
vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?



















Thanks,



















Joan

RE: Rabies vaccine

It is a sanctuary. I am not sure about the state laws. I never give any of my guys rabies vaccines either.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The policy by the vet or by the state? 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan DoljanSent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:09 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Rabies vaccineThanks. I am trying to convince them to change their policy.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan DoljanSent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:00 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Rabies vaccine  I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at
 what age?Thanks,Joan

Re: Rabies vaccine





I get them the booster once every 3 years. I follow the kitten 
schedule when I have kittens. I wouldn't vaccinate at all, but it's 
required by law in new jersey.

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furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec  Salome' 
=^..^=

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Joan Doljan 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:00 
  PM
  Subject: Rabies vaccine
  
  I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies 
  vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Joan

Re: Rabies vaccine

Thanks Terri!Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I get them the booster once every 3 years. I follow the kitten schedule when I have kittens. I wouldn't vaccinate at all, but it's required by law in new jersey.=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec  Salome' =^..^=Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350- Original Message -   From: Joan Doljan   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:00 PM  Subject: Rabies vaccineI am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?   
 Thanks,Joan

Re: Rabies vaccine





No problem!

T

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joan Doljan 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:26 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Rabies vaccine
  Thanks Terri!Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  




I get them the booster once every 3 years. I follow the kitten 
schedule when I have kittens. I wouldn't vaccinate at all, but it's 
required by law in new jersey.

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 
6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec  Salome' 
=^..^=

Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My 
Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350

  - Original Message - 
  From: Joan 
  Doljan 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:00 
  PM
  Subject: Rabies vaccine
  
  I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the 
  rabies vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what 
  age?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Joan

RE: Rabies vaccine









If there is one (policy in sanctuary), its
probably driven by the state law 

I hope you can convince them to change the
policy  with TNR program, due to the state law, I know that they give
rabies shot to all kitties before releasing them, but if its sanctuary,
and kept indoors, I dont see why they need to --- 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joan Doljan
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006
2:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Rabies vaccine





It is a sanctuary. I am not sure about the state laws. I never
give any of my guys rabies vaccines either.

Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 



The policy by the vet or by the state?



















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joan Doljan
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006
2:09 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Rabies vaccine













Thanks. I am trying to convince them to change their policy.

Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

























From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joan Doljan
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006
2:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Rabies vaccine























I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies
vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?



























Thanks,



























Joan

RE: Rabies vaccine

2006-02-06 Thread Patricia Lamoretti

NYS law requires rabies as well. What sanctuary? (Just curious, if you can divulge that information.) PATJoan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  It is a sanctuary. I am not sure about the state laws. I never give any of my guys rabies vaccines either.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The policy by the vet or by the state?From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan DoljanSent: Monday,
 February 06, 2006 2:09 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Rabies vaccineThanks. I am trying to convince them to change their policy.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan DoljanSent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:00 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Rabies vaccine  I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?Thanks,Joan  
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Re: Wysong Food For free

2006-02-06 Thread Stephanie E Caldwell

There is 15lbs of food coming from Zip code 28052. I can't get to USPS 
to check the rate, but that should give you the info so you can.


I just want the *!@ expensive food teh !@# cat won't eat out of my 
kitchen so it can quit being an eyesore! LOL


Steph

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What is the cost for shipping?
I'm in WA. state.
 
In a message dated 2/6/2006 10:19:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
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I've got three unopened bags of the wheat/corn free Wysong that my cats
won't touch. If someone wants it, pay shipping and it's yours!

Steph

 



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RE: Rabies vaccine

I'm not sure. I will ask them. It is on the internet, but not as a place which takes FELV+.Patricia Lamoretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  NYS law requires rabies as well. What sanctuary? (Just curious, if you can divulge that information.) PATJoan Doljan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   It is a sanctuary. I am not sure about the state laws. I never give any of my guys rabies vaccines either.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The policy by the vet or by the state?From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan DoljanSent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:09 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Rabies vaccineThanks. I am trying to convince them to change their policy.Hideyo Yamamoto
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joan DoljanSent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:00 PMTo:
 felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Rabies vaccine  I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?Thanks,   
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RE: dry food causing problems?









I have read a similar claim through
different publications  if you are feeding dry food  there are a
couple of things you can do to minimize the problems. First of all (this is
true for canned or wet food)  please make sure that you are not feeding
any food which contains BHT or BHA or any artificial preservatives which can be
toxic for our cats for a long term use  also try to avoid any food which
contains by product as an ingredient. 



Also, they suggest that dont give
an access to the food all the time  when they smell their food all the
time, it says something about it contributes their urine to be more alkali,
which can be a problem for urinary tract problems, too. I think that the
bottom line is  you want to create and mimic their true natured life as
much as possible. Thats why raw food is recommended as its
closest to their nature food, and least processed. And most of the animals in
wild dont eat for a day or two after having a meal --- 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006
2:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: dry food causing
problems?









Dry food can, but does not always,
increase the risk of urinary tract problems (the grain in it raises the ph, as
does having more concentrated urine from no water content in the food, and the
acidifiers they put in to try to reverse this sometimes cause the opposite
problem of oxylate crystals), GI problems (lots of cats with inflammatory bowel
disease get diarrhea and vomiting from dry foods because of the grain and other
stuff in it), diabetes (too many carbs in it), and obesity (too many carbs,
plus dry food is often free fed which leads to more eating).











I always free fed dry food until
recently, when I had to stop because Lucy developed IBD problems and both Lucy
and Patches had urinary tract trouble. I still give them dry food in
small amounts, Lucy I give Innova EVO which has no grains, and Patches I give a
prescription urinary tract formula. My two fat cats have lost some weight since
I stopped free feeding dry, which is probably good although since they are
FeLV+ I always kind of prefer that they are fat.











Michelle











In a message dated 2/4/2006 4:39:02 P.M.
Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





I'm reading through Wendy's sick kitty
manual, and I just found this, which surprised me:

Dry food: Not good for
cats. Contributes to obesity. Exacerbates all sorts of health
problems.

I wondered if you folks could help me understand why this is? We've been
feeding our cats weight-management hairball-control dry food for years, and I'd
never seen this kind of claim before. Right now we have Eukanuba
Mature Care for our cats that are 9 years old and actually eating.

RE: One last URGENT plea for help...









Please keep us posted with the progress  I am so
hoping that everything will work out - --- he just looks so sweet and precious.
If I had a little bigger place for my felk kitties, I could take him. Just I
feel guilty everyday for the ones I have because I am not giving them as much
as space they deserve.



Hideyo











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006
12:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: One last URGENT plea
for help...





TAD Wheres there a
will, theres a way Its too late (or maybe too early) for me to
call Jen tonight I can call her tomorrow she could get him
to Ashville or there were some Delta staff who had volunteered to fly small
Katrina pets in the cabins with them! Maybe I can find out about
that Whats the best way of getting you and Jen together to
talk? Can she call you? She has a bunch of pictures of Switters she
could send She has his med records, etc.



THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!





Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original
Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tad Burnett
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006
2:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: One last URGENT plea
for help...



Chris
 I could take him but I am way up here in Vermont...
Is there any way you could get him as far as Albany
or NYC or New England area
I know there were several rescue people from Boston
Mass. area
that have been back and forth and brought 
some back with them Don't know if there is any chance
of hooking up with them

Tad

Chris wrote: 

I posted before about Switters the
Katrina kitten found on the street by a New
  Orleans resident after the hurricane. I
met Jean through group Im in working to reunite Katrina
pets with their owner. Shes nursed him back to health,
domesticated him, chipped him, neutered him and generally brought him back to
health! He is FELV+. She has to move out of state next week and
cannot take him with her. She has contacted every rescue group and feline
organization she could find. She has asked her friends and neighbors but
part of the problem is that those handful of people who have returned to New Orleans are all
taking care of other pets found in the street! ALL shelters in the Gulf Coast
areas are full; almost none are no-kill and almost all would euthanize Switters
because of his FELV.



Jean, his caretaker, found a place in
Ashville that will take her and her three cats but landlord would not even
consider a fourth catgo figure. Her cats hate Switters and she
really cant just keep them separate.



Someone told Jean, Switters caretaker,
about a place called animal rescue in Denver but she knows nothing about it nor can
she afford to fly Switters up there. Jean has talked to Marleys
fund and they are full but put him on a waiting list. Jean is moving to
Ashville. Is there anyone in the area who could even foster Switters
until Marleys fund could take him. Jean says he really is a people
person cat who is very sweet. He tries with the other cats but they just
wont accept him.



Ive got 5 adult cats in my apt
and live with turf wars so adding one more would just put everybody over the
edge. Anybody out there who might be able to help? This little guy
went thru so much to stay alive! This is Switters.





Chris

914-632-4672

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Scotch




Dear Amy,
I'm so sorry to hear about Scotch. But I'm glad he knew what 
it was to be loved right to the end. Thanks for caring. 
Kerry

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Amy Watson 
  
  To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 7:59 
  AM
  Subject: thanks for dry food
  
  Many thanks to all of you for the information on dry food. What 
  Nina said about dry food once being recommended for dental health is what I 
  had always believed. In fact, I always thought about my mother saying, 
  "Don't get them started on canned food, or that's all they'll want!" 
  
  
  We have started feeding our fat cat just canned now. We have a 
  skinny one (a Siberian who is supposed to be 20 lbs according to breed 
  recommendations, but is only 9 despite being an adult at least 3 years old) 
  that will be allowed to finish the dry we alreadyhave in the house. 
  
  
  Incidentally, we had to let our Scotch go yesterday. He was 
  severely anemic, and his prognosis had no real hope in it at all. He 
  taught us so much - we'll be better able to care for his sister and distant 
  cousin who are still with us and healthy, and scheduled for testing this 
  Friday. 
  
  Best,
  Amy-- Amy K. WatsonColumbus, Ohiohttp://writerscereal.net

Re: Bailey Update

Dear Belinda, sending prayers and positive healing thoughts for your sweet
Bailey. I can't imagine the frustration and anguish you must be going
through as you try to find the cause of his illness. I'm praying you have a
breakthrough with the X-ray. love and hugs, Kerry

- Original Message -
From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:56 AM
Subject: Re: Bailey Update

Hi All,
 Well Bailey's results today show all organ functions are normal, all
 bloodwork except amylase is normal (it is high but not high enough at
 this point to be concerned) and his HCT is up to 27%, getting close to
 normal, so even though his anemia is getting better he is not ... He is
 still physically deteriorating.  His muscle mass is all but gone, he
 still sleeps 24/7, we did finally clear up the diarrhea, and he is a bit
 wobbly in the back end when he walks.  I can see the wasting getting
 worse daily.

 We are going to do an Xray of his lungs to see if there are any enlarged
 lymph nodes or tumors we are missing, something is going on that we are
 missing.  I feel there is cancer somewhere and we aren't finding it,
 every cat I have had or known with cancer had this muscle wasting happen.

 We were going to try leukeran, but my vet talked with Dr. Lappin DVM a
 FeLV expert and he said it won't do any good in his opinion, he said our
 best bet is to add anabolic steriods, which are hard to get because
 these are the steriods that athletes abuse.  She is going to try and get
 some.  She printed me out some information and it say's that some FeLV
 positives that are anemic and preleukemia can turn actively leukemic
 very quickly, in a matter of months or even weeks.  This is one
 possibility of why even though the anemia seems to be turning around,
 Bailey is getting worse.  If we find this is the case, I am going to ask
 to do chemo along with the steriods, I know the prognosis isn't good but
 the steriods will only take care of the muscle wasting and I want to
 attack the cancer if that is what we have also.  The only way to
 determine if this has happened for a fact is to do another bone marrow
 aspirate but since it isn't going to change the way we treat we decided
 that was unnecessary, it isn't going to change what we do so I see no
 reason to put him through that again and neither does the vet.

 Lots of prayers, positive energy and anything else needed, thanks
everyone.

 --
  Belinda
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Re: One last URGENT plea for help...




Oh Tadyou are a total hero! I hope transportation can be 
worked out for little Switters. It's so great that you've given him the chance 
of a forever home. Thank you! Kerry



- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Tad 
  Burnett 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:06 
  AM
  Subject: Re: One last URGENT plea for 
  help...
  Chris I could take him but I am way up here in 
  Vermont...Is there any way you could get him as far as Albanyor NYC or 
  New England areaI know there were several rescue people from 
  BostonMass. area that have been back and forth and brought some back 
  with them Don't know if there is any chanceof hooking up with 
  themTadChris wrote: 
  




I 
posted before about Switters the Katrina kitten found on the street by a 
New Orleans resident after the hurricane. I met Jean 
through group Im in working to reunite Katrina pets with their owner. 
Shes nursed him back to health, domesticated him, chipped him, neutered him 
and generally brought him back to health! He is FELV+. She has 
to move out of state next week and cannot take him with her. She has 
contacted every rescue group and feline organization she could find. 
She has asked her friends and neighbors but part of the problem is that 
those handful of people who have returned to New Orleans are all taking care 
of other pets found in the street! ALL shelters in the Gulf Coast 
areas are full; almost none are no-kill and almost all would euthanize 
Switters because of his FELV.

Jean, his caretaker, found a place in Ashville that 
will take her and her three cats but landlord would not even consider a 
fourth catgo figure. Her cats hate Switters and she really cant just 
keep them separate.

Someone told Jean, Switters caretaker, about a 
place called animal rescue in Denver but she knows nothing 
about it nor can she afford to fly Switters up there. Jean has talked 
to Marleys fund and they are full but put him on a waiting list. Jean 
is moving to Ashville. Is there anyone in the area who could even 
foster Switters until Marleys fund could take him. Jean says he 
really is a people person cat who is very sweet. He tries with the 
other cats but they just wont accept him.

Ive got 5 adult cats in my apt and live with turf 
wars so adding one more would just put everybody over the edge. 
Anybody out there who might be able to help? This little guy went thru 
so much to stay alive! This is Switters.


Chris
914-632-4672
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Moses

I knew when I started volunteering that it might be hard at times,well right now is one of those times,my sweet Moses from the sids sanctuary passed away today,his chest filled up with fluids and he could not breath. I felt something might not be right Saturday when I was there,but he just looked at me with that crooked head and dirty nose and raggedy face and purred his sweet little heart away.I knew it would be a tough one to lose.He had both fiv and felv.I have a picture of him with his head in my lap on new years eve,I will miss him dearly__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Amy so sorry about Scotch

2006-02-06 Thread Genegal58





Amy, 

My heart gose out to you with the loss of Scotch. 
I agree with you that these wonderful furry family members do indeed teach 
us how to better care for the other ones. I have learned so much with Ms. Clyde 
being sick and she too has taught us so much.

With Love,
Karen in California and her Beautiful Maine Coon Cat Ms. Clyde

Re: Bailey Update

2006-02-06 Thread Belinda Sauro


 Hi All,
  I want to thank everyone for your continued prayers and positive 
energy.  Well the xray didn't clear anything up, no tumors or enlarged 
lymph nodes, his lungs are all clear.  and all of the rest of his organs 
look good, so still a mystery ... I did get the anobolic steroids and 
will start those tomorrow, I want to be sure the vet is open just in 
case there is any kind of a reaction.


I didn't get the CLS updated today, I'm sorry I will get it first thing 
for sure tomorrow.


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Could you add Meggy to the list too,she had been taken care of by the vets son for 5 months she had felv and she had to be let go Saturday,and he is taking it really bad,poor guy.  And then a ferel that she took in today literally scared himself to death,poot thing lived outside for a year and then finally gets someone to take care of him and this happens,rest his soul.His name was Demon.  Today was a very bad day here for our sanctuary cats.Bless them all and thank all of you for being here for me.
	
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TAD TO THE RESCUE: One last URGENT plea for help...

2006-02-06 Thread Chris










Yeah for TAD He and Jen talked today and little
Switters is moving to New
 England!!! We
just need to work out transp. Jen has someone who works in Delta  is
going to see if she can get a steward to take little Switters. If not, I
may have a contact with a stewards group who had offered to take small pets in
Cabin with them Just little details, how to get from New Orleans to Vermont. What a tale little Switters will have for his new
brothers and sisters!!! and then the water came, and then I swam,
and then I didnt have any food, and then I went inside to this house,
and then I went on this BIG bird, and now Im here!



TADTHANK YOU SO VERY VERY MUCH==YOU ARE A TRUE HERO!





Chris

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-Original
Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006
9:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: One last URGENT plea
for help...





Oh Tadyou are a total hero! I
hope transportation can be worked out for little Switters. It's so great that
you've given him the chance of a forever home. Thank you! Kerry























- Original Message - 







From:
Tad
Burnett 





To:
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org






Sent:
Monday, February 06, 2006 1:06 AM





Subject:
Re: One last URGENT plea for help...









Chris
 I could take him but I am way up here in Vermont...
Is there any way you could get him as far as Albany
or NYC or New England area
I know there were several rescue people from Boston
Mass. area that have been back and forth and brought 
some back with them Don't know if there is any chance
of hooking up with them

Tad

Chris wrote: 

I posted before about Switters the
Katrina kitten found on the street by a New Orleans resident after the
hurricane. I met Jean through group Im in working to
reunite Katrina pets with their owner. Shes nursed him back to
health, domesticated him, chipped him, neutered him and generally brought him
back to health! He is FELV+. She has to move out of state next week
and cannot take him with her. She has contacted every rescue group and
feline organization she could find. She has asked her friends and
neighbors but part of the problem is that those handful of people who have
returned to New Orleans are all taking care of other pets found in the
street! ALL shelters in the Gulf Coast areas are full; almost none are
no-kill and almost all would euthanize Switters because of his FELV.



Jean, his caretaker, found a place in
Ashville that will take her and her three cats but landlord would not even
consider a fourth catgo figure. Her cats hate Switters and she
really cant just keep them separate.



Someone told Jean, Switters
caretaker, about a place called animal rescue in Denver but she
knows nothing about it nor can she afford to fly Switters up there. Jean
has talked to Marleys fund and they are full but put him on a waiting
list. Jean is moving to Ashville. Is there anyone in the area who
could even foster Switters until Marleys fund could take him. Jean
says he really is a people person cat who is very sweet. He tries with
the other cats but they just wont accept him.



Ive got 5 adult cats in my apt
and live with turf wars so adding one more would just put everybody over the
edge. Anybody out there who might be able to help? This little guy
went thru so much to stay alive! This is Switters.





Chris

914-632-4672

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Re: Frances

Sherry,I'm so sorry.tonyaSherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:could you please add sweet Frances to the bridge list and the cls.She just could not pull through.  Brings words and photos together (easily) withPhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.

Re: Moses

Sherry,Once again, I am so sorry. I so admire what you do. When some of my own pass I would like to offer hospice type fostering for felv cats. Reading your posts though, I don't know how you do it.tSherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I knew when I started volunteering that it might be hard at times,well right now is one of those times,my sweet Moses from the sids sanctuary passed away today,his chest filled up with fluids and he could not breath. I felt something might not be right Saturday when I was there,but he just looked at me with that crooked head and dirty nose and raggedy face and purred his sweet little heart away.I knew it would be a tough one to lose.He had both fiv and felv.I have a picture of him with his head in my lap on new years eve,I
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Sherry Thank You for Doing what you do

2006-02-06 Thread Genegal58




Sherry,

It takes a very, very special person to do what you do. I thank God for you 
and for your caring and compassion for these beautiful animals. Reading your 
emails just broke my heart, but there is a bright side - you were in their 
lives. Sweet Frances, Meggy, Demon, Moses and all the other precious angel cats 
whose lives you touched and who touched your life adds a spark of light to 
life.

Love to you,
Karen in California and her Beautiful Maine Coon Cat Ms. Clyde


  Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
could you please add sweet Frances to the bridge list and the cls.She 
just could not pull through.

Re: Bailey Update

Belinda,Is the vet sure that the wasting of the muscle mass is not just due to the continued diarrhea and dehydration? It doesn't take a lot of that with a cat Even with the feeding tube it sounds like the food was just going in and going right outIs the diarrhea under control? If so for how long has he actually kept some food in him? I know how upsetting this is for both of you. I hope you find out what's going on, but I hope it's just keeping some food in him a little longer..tBelinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi All,I want to thank everyone for your continued prayers and positive energy. Well the xray didn't clear anything up, no tumors or enlarged lymph
 nodes, his lungs are all clear. and all of the rest of his organs look good, so still a mystery ... I did get the anobolic steroids and will start those tomorrow, I want to be sure the vet is open just in case there is any kind of a reaction.I didn't get the CLS updated today, I'm sorry I will get it first thing for sure tomorrow.-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting  web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com

Re: Another disaster

2006-02-06 Thread Lernermichelle





I actually do think you would be a good lawyer. You have a knack for 
research and understanding arguments and arguing. I think you should think about 
it.
Michelle

In a message dated 2/6/2006 12:47:12 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  One time, I mentioned 
  to Greg (who is also a lawyer), “Honey, I think I can be a pretty good lawyer, 
  because I can make a good argument” – and he looked at me and said “is that 
  what you think about lawyers?”, and I said “yeah… they argue, that’s what they 
  do”.. and Greg said,,,”arguing does not necessary make a good lawyer, in my 
  career, I have spent more time negotiating for my clients and the opponents 
  and mediating the situations so that people decide to meet somewhere in the 
  middle --- he is a PI lawyer, and does some criminal and domestic relations.. 
  and lots of times, it’s about “mediation” --- and he is so good at it, too 
  --- so for the same reason, I really appreciate you trying to direct me 
  to the direction which will be safest for my cats --- as I said before, I can 
  get so stuck with being right,, and don’t do what IS right 
  sometimes…
  
  Hideyo

Re: Bailey Update

2006-02-06 Thread Lernermichelle




Belinda, my Buddy's blood work was normal for a long time even though he 
was wasting and was tired all the time. Eventually he got anemic and his 
kidneys started failing. We never got a diagnosis, but I assumed lymphoma. The 
vet thought possibly dry form of FIP. Corticosteroids (dex, depo) helped 
him feel better for a few months, but did not stop the progression of the 
disease, whatever it was. I'm sorry. I hope that Bailey has something 
different and gets better soon. Buddy's anemia certainly never got any 
better, even from the steroids, so maybe it is something different. Though we 
did not start Epogen until pretty near the end.
Michelle

RE: Bailey Update

2006-02-06 Thread Chris

Belinda,
Thinking of you and Bailey...  I know this is a crazy idea, but what about
some sort of intestinal parasites?  Could affect Bailey's ability to absorb
nutrients?

Chris
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bailey Update

  Hi All,
   I want to thank everyone for your continued prayers and positive 
energy.  Well the xray didn't clear anything up, no tumors or enlarged 
lymph nodes, his lungs are all clear.  and all of the rest of his organs 
look good, so still a mystery ... I did get the anobolic steroids and 
will start those tomorrow, I want to be sure the vet is open just in 
case there is any kind of a reaction.

I didn't get the CLS updated today, I'm sorry I will get it first thing 
for sure tomorrow.

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Re: Rabies vaccine

2006-02-06 Thread Lernermichelle





I don't. But mine all had it about 3.5 to 4 years ago before I 
adopted them.
Michelle

In a message dated 2/6/2006 4:00:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I am trying to take a quick poll to see how many of you give the rabies 
  vaccine to your Felv+ kittens and cats and if you do, at what age?
  
  Thanks,
  
  Joan

Re: Bailey Update

Praying the steroids help Bailey, and there's no adverse reaction for him.
love, kerry

- Original Message -
From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Bailey Update

   Hi All,
I want to thank everyone for your continued prayers and positive
 energy.  Well the xray didn't clear anything up, no tumors or enlarged
 lymph nodes, his lungs are all clear.  and all of the rest of his organs
 look good, so still a mystery ... I did get the anobolic steroids and
 will start those tomorrow, I want to be sure the vet is open just in
 case there is any kind of a reaction.

 I didn't get the CLS updated today, I'm sorry I will get it first thing
 for sure tomorrow.

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Re: Frances




Dear Sherry
My heart goes out to you and the dear little furballs, 
Frances, Moses and Meggy. So much loss and griefI can only try to imagine 
how you feel. Bless you for all that you do for those little souls, for all your 
selfless loving and caring. At least they knew that they mattered and that were 
loved.
love and hugs, Kerry


- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Sherry 
  DeHaan 
  To: Felvtalk 
  Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 8:40 
  PM
  Subject: Frances
  
  could you please add sweet Frances to the bridge list and the cls.She 
  just could not pull through.
  
  
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Re: CLS for Orange Julius (OJ)

I'm in tears Tad, reading about your OJ. I'm so sorry. What a brave kitty he
was, right to the end. I'm glad he found you and knew he could count on you
loving and caring for him for the rest of his short life. love and hugs,
kerry

- Original Message -
From: Tad Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 10:49 AM
Subject: CLS for Orange Julius (OJ)

 Little OJ has gone to be with his best kitty friends Winky and Callie...
 Those 3 seemed to be close friends when they arrived here from
 Angel Wings and now they are all back together at the Rainbow Bridge..

 Last Tuesday  (Feb. 2,2006) we took OJ to the vet... He cried when
 we picked him up refused to take any food from his syringe...
 The vet said his cancer on his kidney had grown huge suddenly and
 he was in pain and it was time to let him go...

   It was so hard because he seemed to love life and everyone around
 him so much...He sat on the table and watched the doc prepare his needle
 with intense interest and he purred for the tech as she shaved his leg and
 the needle was inserted...

   Little OJ was the kitty from the Angel Wings rescue that when they
 1st examined him at the vets in Tenn. he just flopped on his side...
 At 1st they thought he was too week to stand up but then they realized
 it was because he was so happy to have human touch again...

   The 1st night he was here and I had him in the introduction cage in the
 room with all my cats...When he saw me get in bed he cried and cried
 and looked like he wanted to join me...He had seemed so friendly with
 everyone that I gave in and opened the door and sure enough he made a
 be line for the bed and he has been there right next to me every night
 since..

   The FeLV must have already destroyed most of his immune system when
 he arrived here as he had to constantly be on antibiotics to keep URI
 under control and at 1st he would sneeze blood and that was from
 the URI had gotten into the hair bones in his nose... A strong antibiotic
 did take care of that...

   Because of his chronic URI  he never had much appetite and we always
 gave him special attention to get him to eat...
  I know he missed Winky...He was only here for a few weeks...
 Winky just went to sleep and didn't wake up...He was very anemic
 and a bad heart... It was after that that OJ started loosing weight...
 We gave him special food and he was doing better and then Callie
 passed...It was right after that that he started peeing outside his box
 and we had him tested but nothing showed except that his urine was
 watery and we gave him something to make it a little more acid incase
 he was getting crystals build up... He seemed better for a while and
 put a little weight back on but then he started to eat less again but he
 took
 his A/D  food without complaining from a syringe...With that it seemed
like
 he was getting but he was getting skinnyer and skinnyer and we knew it
 was cancer taking him away

 I miss my supper friendly little orange kitty and I do hope I will get to
be
 with him again some day.

 Sleep well sweet OJ

Re: Bailey Update

2006-02-06 Thread Belinda Sauro


  Hi Tonya  All,
He had diarrhea for 10 or 12 days, and I mean continuous diarrhea, it 
was ozzing out involuntarily whenever  wherever.  It has been under 
control since this last Thursday so for the last 5 days he hasn't had 
it.  Since Friday he has lost 4 more ozs., and is getting bonier.  She 
did say that the steady diarrhea could definately have something to do 
with it, but if you could see the difference in just the last wek you 
would know why I feel something else is going on.  His last bloodwork is 
better, that what's so puzzling.  He isn't dehydrated, I've been giving 
him fluids every other day and each time we have gone to the vets, she 
said he is not dehydrated.  His blood pressure came up to normal (120), 
it was at 80, so we just don't get it.  She did say this is her first 
case of this type of anemia and she really doesn't know what to expect 
as far as symptoms and progression.


She has a call into Greg Ogilvie DVM, he is an oncologist and leukemia 
related diseases specialist.  He is out of town and should be back 
tomorrow so hopefully he will have some answers.  She said from all she 
has read about this, it is usually seen in younger cats (2 to 4 yrs old, 
and usually in cats that were either born with the virus or got it 
shortly thereafter), so she is really surprised that Bailey has this 
type of anemia.  Bailey was positive at 5 months of age so he was young 
when he was diagnosed and for all I know he may have been born with it 
he was a stray that showed up at the Walmart I was working at.  I know 
we have been very lucky for 10 years but I'm greedy and want more ...


The bad thing is most chemos are not a good idea because of the fact 
that his bone marrow is already sick and chemos will make that worse, 
not to mention that chemo just hasn't been shown to be very effective 
with this type of leukemia, but she said there is a new chemo being 
tried for this that is in the trail stages and she is going to ask Dr 
Ogilvie about that too.  I told her we have nothing to lose and at this 
point I am willing to try anything.  We all know the out come here and 
if there is anything that may give us a fighting chance I'm all for 
trying it!!


What's strange too is there were no actual leukemia cells found, just 
preleukemia cells.  She did find some info though that say's some cats 
can convert to active leukemia in a matter of months or even weeks, and 
that is a possibility.  Another bone marrow aspirate would confirm that 
but I don't see any reason to do that since we would continue with the 
same treatment course either way.


I got the winstrol (antolobic steroid) tonight and will start it 
tomorrow, I sure hope it helps.


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Re: Bailey Update