Re: Management of Renal Failure??/Arttn: Belinda

2006-07-15 Thread PEC2851
Belinda, Thanks so much for adding the fact about phosphorous binders.  They can be so very important. And, as I said before, I have been thru renal failur unpteen times,but specific treatments escape this damaged memory// A VERY good point. Thanks much. Hugs, Patti

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread PEC2851
Michelle, I have found that finally being able to participate has really helped me...Helps get me over the depression This group is so wonderful & supportive.  All of you have been so very kind and supportive of me, and I thank you all. Remember, you deserve BIG thanks for aiding that poo

Re: Karen...thank god for your rescue efforts in TX!

2006-07-15 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS
Yes Please terrie Stay off the foot ! Just a quick not at one am that I got the momma and kitten off of death row ! I think she is blue or lilac point (I am bad with points) we adopted several kittens today at petco so that is good news. Karen

Re: Joey's Sweet Little Sis

2006-07-15 Thread Belinda
Sheila, I'm sorry you've lost Joey's little Sis, does she have a name or is that what you called her? I missed her story was she positive? I will get her added to the next service. Take care ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Pos

Re: Sam is gone

2006-07-15 Thread Belinda
Helene, I'm very sorry to hear about Sam, he is certainly an inspiration at his age and you are a wonderful Mom, take care of yourself. I will get him added to the next service. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/

Re: food

2006-07-15 Thread Belinda
    That's great, I'm doing about half and half right now, although I did give them all new food today for the first time and by golly they ate most of it, now to see if we get loose stools   :) I tried it again and, if I do about 60% baby food and 40% raw Lucy will eat it -- Belinda happine

Re: Joey's Sweet Little Sis

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
 I am so sorry.  So much death. Michelle

food

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
Belinda, thanks for suggesting the mixing-- I tried it again and, if I do about 60% baby food and 40% raw Lucy will eat it.  Hopefully it will upset her stomach less this way. Thanks, Michelle

Re: Sam is gone

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
I am so, so sorry. Sam's story is one of the most amazing FeLV stories I have heard. You did well by him in the way you cared for him, bringing him to such a ripe old age. Michelle

Re: ot: Pauline

2006-07-15 Thread Barb Moermond
Thank you for sharing such a happy, make-you-feel-good stories:)  we don't get enough of those![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this big sign out front (not visible to humans)...that says 'sucker' over my front door.  This must be true, otherwise, every feral cat and creature in the neighborho

Re: Sam is gone

2006-07-15 Thread Barb Moermond
GLOW to light his path and ease your heart - our thoughts and tears are with you... >>>Helene Hand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Sam left me at 1:54 PM today. He was weak and nauseated. The vet came to the house and put him to sleep in a kind and gentle manner...After he le

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
No, I didn't.  I do always feel a little bad that you seem to think I am such a stress case. I mean, I am sometimes, but I think we all are when our babies are unwell.  I don't really think I am more than others on this list. And I certainly have seen a whole lot of death in my life, and in

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
That's awful, Belinda. Most vets will not touch wild animals, especially ones that can carry rabies. I am not sure if it is illegal here in NJ for regular vets to treat wildlife? I know that my local vet in MA, while not a great vet, was always willing to see if he could do something for any

Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
Lucy has always been really fussy about food, and will not eat anything mixed with anything else, even if she would eat both separate. And she doesn't eat wet or dry food (she never liked wet and dry makes her sick now). The only thing she can eat is her raw diet or cooked turkey or duck. I

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
Thanks so much, Patti, and that's so great about the bunny.  I can't believe how much you are able to be supportive, given what you have gone through yourself lately. You are such an inspiration. Michelle   In a message dated 7/15/2006 6:13:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wr

Re: ot: Pauline

2006-07-15 Thread Marylyn
Amen to that.  And in every language possible.             If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who  

Re: ot: Pauline

2006-07-15 Thread PEC2851
Elizabeth, Forgot to mention, I think ALL of us on his list have the same "SUCKER" sign. Patti

Re: ot: Pauline

2006-07-15 Thread PEC2851
Too bad ALL people aren't so loving and accepting I totally just loved reading about your baby Pauline.  Made me smile. Hugs, Patti

Re: Pauline

2006-07-15 Thread ETrent
I know it's odd -- but I've never had any creature use Liz's Kitty Boutique and Day Spa as a powder room.  I haven't taken any precaution -- but I do keep some dry food out there and a few kitty beds (because some get more sun than others...some have more protection from rain).  I have a gaz

Re: Joey's Sweet Little Sis

2006-07-15 Thread ETrent
I'm so sorry for your loss. elizabeth   In a message dated 7/15/2006 12:16:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please post to the CLS prayer list Joey's Little Sis whom I had the vet help her cross over last evening Friday, July 14. Thank you for the few extra pra

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread PEC2851
Michelle, What a wonderful thing you did for that poor little creature!  And, I totally agree, the vets should be ashamed of themselves...I mean, don't they take the same oath as people Dr.s to "save all"? Out here in the country, we are loaded with rednecks & hooligans that will purposely ru

Re: Sam is gone

2006-07-15 Thread Marylyn
Sam totally adored you and still does.  Delilah's actions show that she knows what happened and is both relieved and sad.  She will need extra attention for a while.  You did so good.  Sam sends his warmest thanks.              If you have me

Re: Pauline

2006-07-15 Thread Marylyn
A rather basic question I hope you don't mind:  How do you keep them from using the porch as a restroom?  I am moving to a farm with a large porch and expect to have a number of four legged callers.  I don't mind that part--just cleaning up the mess.  I had raccoons turn an out building into

Re: Management of Renal Failure?? -- Morris Update

2006-07-15 Thread PEC2851
Elizabeth- Oh, how wonderful! (And thanks so much for he update) Your friend sounds like a really special person!  Sam must be in wonderful care. Very encouraging news! Also, for him to "listen", wow wouldn't it be great if all our kitties did that? And, 18, that's an awesome age.  My Puma is

Re: Sam is gone

2006-07-15 Thread Nina
I'm so sorry Helene.  That's so touching about Delilah saying goodbye.  My tears and sympathy are with you and yours, Nina Helene Hand wrote:   Sam left me at 1:54 PM today. He was weak and nauseated. The vet came to the house and put him to sleep in a kind and gentle manner...A

Re: Lucy update

2006-07-15 Thread Marylyn
It sounds like the same stuff.  It really helped Kitty Katt.  She left this world on April 22 and I don't have a bottle to check names.              If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures  

Re: Sam is gone

2006-07-15 Thread ETrent
Helene, I am so sorry.  elizabeth   In a message dated 7/15/2006 12:06:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   Sam left me at 1:54 PM today. He was weak and nauseated. The vet came to the house and put him to sleep in a kind and gentle manner...After he left,

Re: ot: Pauline

2006-07-15 Thread Belinda
That's a great story about the possum, I think they are adorable!! -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.co

Joey's Sweet Little Sis

2006-07-15 Thread Sheila Coyle
Please post to the CLS prayer list Joey's Little Sis whom I had the vet help her cross over last evening Friday, July 14. Thank you for the few extra prayers for her passage.   Sheila Nebraska [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sam is gone

2006-07-15 Thread Helene Hand
  Sam left me at 1:54 PM today. He was weak and nauseated. The vet came to the house and put him to sleep in a kind and gentle manner...After he left, I snuggled Sam in his favorite towel and summer blanket oon the sofa.  Delilah , his mother, finally came out of hiding-  I lifted her to

Re: Management of Renal Failure?? -- Morris Update

2006-07-15 Thread Belinda
Make sure they pay attention to his HCT, many CRF cats are anemic and many are on epogen. Fred was anemic but once we got his thyroid regulated he went back to being normal, his CRF got a bit worse but still not too bad. Once he gets his dental, and his thyroid is completely stabilized (i

Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-15 Thread Belinda
Michelle, Maybe try mixing the baby food with her regular food and slowly phase it out so she is eating only her regular food. I'm currently phasing out the Fancy Feast and getting my guys on a better food. Then we work on phasing out the dry :) Cody is getting bigger and bigger. --

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Belinda
Michelle,    Never doubt that animals know our thoughts and intentions, that groundhog knew you were trying to help her and appreciated it.  Yes dying in the woods would have been a natural event for her but you showed her a side to humans she would otherwise not have known, that many do c

Re: ot: Pauline

2006-07-15 Thread Nina
Thanks Elizabeth, I needed that. N [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this big sign out front (not visible to humans)...that says 'sucker' over my front door.  This must be true, otherwise, every feral cat and creature in the neighborhood wouldn't stop by Liz's Kitty Boutique and Day

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Nina
Did you mean to say, Thanks Nina, you goof ball? :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Nina.

Re: Lucy update - baby food and calcium ratio

2006-07-15 Thread Nina
Yeah, I had heard on a radio program on cat's health and nutrition that taurine is so very important.  The speaker even said that she thought it was a great immune booster.  If Lucy is eating the baby food with the FF added in, that's great!  Gypsy wouldn't touch the raw food with that and I ha

ot: Pauline

2006-07-15 Thread ETrent
I have this big sign out front (not visible to humans)...that says 'sucker' over my front door.  This must be true, otherwise, every feral cat and creature in the neighborhood wouldn't stop by Liz's Kitty Boutique and Day Spa (my official name for my front porch).   Year before last, I notice

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
Thanks, Nina.

Re: Lucy update - baby food and calcium ratio

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
Thanks, Nina, as always! I actually am just mixing in her raw food supplement from Feline Futures, which is meant to be added to boneless raw meat and so has the necessary calcium.  It also has B vitamins added. I am also adding some of the Nu-cat vitamins which I got based on your turkey mus

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread ETrent
This had to have been heart-wrenching, Michelle.  Thank you for caring about this precious creature.  It really does make a difference.   Prayers going up for the groundhog, Gunnar, Lucy and you.   elizabeth   In a message dated 7/14/2006 9:56:50 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Management of Renal Failure?? -- Morris Update

2006-07-15 Thread ETrent
I have an update on Morris this morning.   First -- I had some of my 'facts' incorrect.  Morris is 18 years old!  He tested FeVL+ at one time but in 2003 he tested negative.  Perhaps he managed to throw off the virus??  He was a feral initially but my friend has worked wonders with him.  She

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Nina
I should have worded that last sentence, "we can't *always* change the world, we can always choose to change the way we view it". I do believe we can change the world. People like those on this list allow me to believe that. Nina Nina wrote: Oh Michelle, What a terrible thing to have happe

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Nina
Oh Michelle, What a terrible thing to have happen!  Don't second guess yourself about whether you did the right thing, (the vet's are the ones that should be ashamed of themselves).  I know you sometimes consider me wacky, (heck, I sometimes consider myself wacky), but I don't believe in "accid

Re: Management of Renal Failure??

2006-07-15 Thread ETrent
Belinda, Thank you so much for this encouraging report.  Please give Fred a kitty kiss from me...I hope he continues to improve.     In a message dated 7/15/2006 8:37:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:       My Fred, 15 years old currently has early CRF and was recent

Re: Lucy update - baby food and calcium ratio

2006-07-15 Thread Nina
I've heard of people giving Bean-o to dogs, is that okay for cats too?  If it's okay, maybe you could add just the tiniest squirt to her baby food.   The vet on the IBD list was kind enough to send me the recipe for adding calcium and B vita to baby food to make it more complete when I was assi

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread wendy
Michelle, I have never heard of anyone trying to save a groundhog! What an animal lover you are! And how sweet of you to do that. I wouldn't have known what to do. I am sorry that you and the groundhog had to go through that. I know it must have been hard. But maybe the groundhog knew you we

To Patti

2006-07-15 Thread wendy
Patti- It sounds like you are getting along famously after your surgery so far! What a fighter you are! I hope you heal quickly! Smookie and I and the rest of the gang send you healing vibes and hugs! :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Y

Re: Lucy update

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
Thanks. My mom did research on the net and told me cats can get liquid di-gel for gas. Is that the same thing? My mom also read an article saying corn causes gas, and there is corn starch in the baby food, so maybe that is it.  I am trying to find somewhere that sells Beechnut, which is just

Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-15 Thread Lernermichelle
Thanks, Kerry. Actually, her stools seem pretty normal now, just a bit soft but that could be because I gave her a lot of rice bran yesterday mixed in with her baby food.  She is back on 10 mg/day of pred. I am not really worried about keeping her on that for a while. It's more that I am wor

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Kerry Roach
Michelle, Sorry to hear about the little guy...I would have done the same thing.  I think you did the right thing and he wasn't alone.    Kerry and Bandy Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.

Re: Management of Renal Failure??

2006-07-15 Thread Belinda
My Fred, 15 years old currently has early CRF and was recently treated with I131 for hyperthyroid. He also had an infection which we treated with Orbax, he will have a dental in a week or so and blood work to check where his thyroid is in a month and a half. Currently he isn't getting an

Re: Patti could use your prayers

2006-07-15 Thread TatorBunz
In a message dated 7/15/2006 8:19:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all!  Guess I overdid my computer time yesterday cause my one (still good) eye gave out.  What a bummer!  Well, that's life right now for me. I just found out where I was right before the accident. ON

Re: Patti could use your prayers

2006-07-15 Thread PEC2851
Hi all!  Guess I overdid my computer time yesterday cause my one (still good) eye gave out.  What a bummer!  Well, that's life right now for me. I just found out where I was right before the accident. ON A RECUE!!! Thank heavens there were no kitties with me.  Still not sure exactly what I

Re: Wowie

2006-07-15 Thread TatorBunz
Rebecca,     I'm so sorry to hear about Wowie! You did the kindest thing by having him in your life. He loved you regardless and you did the right things to make him comfortable during his time with you. Please don't questioned or beat yourself in the head because you won't find the answers as

Re: Karen...thank god for your rescue efforts in TX!

2006-07-15 Thread TatorBunz
In a message dated 7/14/2006 11:06:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOl Washington sounds great but I am going to NC because my oldest lives there and is getting married in august. My sister and her family live there so I want my son to have as much family around as possi

Re: Please say a prayer for Lucy

2006-07-15 Thread Kerry Roach
Hi Michelle, I hope Lucy is feeling better today..I sure don't know what to do cause what works for Inky doesn't seem to work for Lucy.  Have you tried adding bene-bac?  I gave Inky some when he had loose stool and Bandy, too.. The bran isn't working either I take it... I know my lymphoma kitty

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Sherry DeHaan
THank you for your prayers and all are in my prayers too. Sherry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not about a cat, but with Gray gone I feel I want to tell people who will understand, and ask you to pray if there is a reason to pray when someone is gone. Today while I was driving on a highway

Re: groundhog

2006-07-15 Thread Marylyn
There is a wonderful song at www.andiesisle.com/Calling_All_Angels.html  My holistic vet sent the Royal Princess Kitty Katt drops with Calling All Angels essence in them when she was ready to leave this world and told me about it when she sent a card after Kitty left.  I Googled it and this s

Re: Lucy update

2006-07-15 Thread Marylyn
Ask your vet about giving her simethecon for gas.  There are baby drop versions of Gas X  that can be used.  I used them with Kitty Katt when she permitted and it helped.   Pepsid also helped with discomfort.              If you have men who