Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....
Thanks for sharing your story. I believe the rescued kitties are the most grateful. And even more so, the special needs recued ones! A great tribute to Romeo (and you). Thanks for sharing! You now have one more guardian angel watching over you. Laurie From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:37:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to lymphoma. I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc. And the resounding answer is YES YES YES. My Romeo was a throw away stray that I first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony near me. He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running across the field when Id whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldnt miss him. He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury everybodys food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving. I knew someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, hed scamper away, just out of reach, cowering. Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters weve had in a long time. One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major snowstorm. Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him in. I even had an adoptive home readybut he turned out to be positive and they couldnt handle it. Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks, watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner werent that bad. Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he thought I was asleep. Little baby stepsfirst the food dish got moved next to his crate. Then the litter box in the bathroom. And slowly, hed come out during the day. I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my monitor to spot him on my bed. You could see it in his facethis is niiice and from that point on, he was totally comfortable being in and around we humans. Funny thing is that he never really wanted to get outhe rarely sat at the windowthe couch and the bed were always much more comfortable for him! Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat youd ever want to meet. Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him in any way---he was just too scared. But hed jump up on me, lie on my chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm and loved. My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take much of a liking to himall jealousy, Im sure. But Romeo persevered and the two of them had come to terms with each other... His final illness took him quickly. Hed never been real sick beforehad some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it. Going to the vet was a major trauma for him so Id always worked with my wonderful vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum. But today was one of those days that I knew he had to get to the vet asap. Hed been feeling poorly during the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hardlike he couldnt catch his breath. Hed been on antibiotics for what I thought was another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot more. My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they confirmed the lymphoma. He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood would only give him a short extension of his life. So, I made that decision we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was time. I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him. And do I regret taking him inABSOLUTELY NOT. He gave me so many wonderful memories and he will always be in my heart. And did he regret coming insideABSOLUTELY NOThe had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone. We cant save them foreverbut we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so very much about life from these little guys. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felinele
Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....
Christine, Your story is so inspiring! And heartbreaking too... :( It brought back that old familiar lump in my throat I get when I think about my own losses. Thank you for being the loving person you are. Little Romeo was so lucky to have you! :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:37:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to lymphoma. I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc. And the resounding answer is YES YES YES. My Romeo was a throw away stray that I first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony near me. He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running across the field when I’d whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldn’t miss him. He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury everybody’s food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving. I knew someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, he’d scamper away, just out of reach, cowering. Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters we’ve had in a long time. One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major snowstorm. Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him in. I even had an adoptive home ready—but he turned out to be positive and they couldn’t handle it. Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks, watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner weren’t that bad. Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he thought I was asleep. Little baby steps—first the food dish got moved next to his crate. Then the litter box in the bathroom. And slowly, he’d come out during the day. I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my monitor to spot him on my bed. You could see it in his face—this is niiice and from that point on, he was totally comfortable being in and around we humans. Funny thing is that he never really wanted to get out—he rarely sat at the window—the couch and the bed were always much more comfortable for him! Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat you’d ever want to meet. Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him in any way---he was just too scared. But he’d jump up on me, lie on my chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm and loved. My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take much of a liking to him—all jealousy, I’m sure. But Romeo persevered and the two of them had come to terms with each other... His final illness took him quickly. He’d never been real sick before—had some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it. Going to the vet was a major trauma for him so I’d always worked with my wonderful vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum. But today was one of those days that I knew he had to get to the vet asap. He’d been feeling poorly during the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hard—like he couldn’t catch his breath. He’d been on antibiotics for what I thought was another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot more. My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they confirmed the lymphoma. He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood would only give him a short extension of his life. So, I made that decision we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was time. I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him. And do I regret taking him in—ABSOLUTELY NOT. He gave me so many wonderful memories and he will always be in my heart. And did he regret coming inside—ABSOLUTELY NOT—he had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone. We can’t save them forever—but we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so very much about life from these little guys. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@fel
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
Lisa, I'm sorry about the positive test. Thank you for trying to help out this little guy, and more so, for loving him. The chances your other (adult?) cats will contract the virus, especially with FeLV vaccinations, is very low. I believe the number on the effectiveness of the vaccine is 70%, and probably much higher with adult cats. In addition, many of us here have mixed cats successfully, including me. I had 4 adult cats, one of which who was FeLV+, and the other 3 never contracted the virus, even though their FeLV vaccines had all run out long before I knew that the one was positive. Many of us here believe that it's very rare for a healthy adult cat to contract FeLV in any other way than blood exchange. Mine all shared food, water, and litter boxes for 4 years before Cricket died. One of mine was even elderly, about 16 years old, and hyperthyroid/kidney failure, so she wasn't exactly the picture of health. You CAN do this, and even though it may be tough, you won't regret loving and caring for this little guy, nor choosing NOT to euthanize him solely based on a positive test. I hope you are able to get his diarrhea under control soon. God bless~ Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Lisa Borden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:47:49 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] So now what? My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of health, and I intend to keep it that way. Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right thing. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee
Hey Sherry, Just wanted to say that I am thinking about you and your Maizee... :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ From: Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Felvtalk Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 7:21:45 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee Three years ago today my Maizee Grace left this world. :( Sometimes it seems like yesterday that my beautiful baby girl was still here with me. She is the reason that I volunteer at Sids(felv,fiv cat sanctuary).I have had the honor to love MANY wonderful babies in the last 3 years.Each and every one of them have a special place in my heart. Thank you Maizee Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Romeo is gone....
Chris, I am so sorry for your loss. Romeo was lucky to show up at your doorstep. tonya Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is with a very heavy heart that I tell you that I lost my Romeo today to lymphoma. I write not out of grief but to encourage all the newbies who wonder whether they can hang on with a FELV positive, whether they know enough to take care of them, whether they should mix, etc. And the resounding answer is YES YES YES. My Romeo was a throw away stray that I first met 7+ years ago when I helped someone out feeding a little colony near me. He was already an adult (3-4 years old) who would come running across the field when Id whistle and meow the whole way so I wouldnt miss him. He would get underfoot, get bullied by the other cats, bury everybodys food, and just rub up against my leg for some loving. I knew someone had been unkind to him cause if I raised my hand, hed scamper away, just out of reach, cowering. Fast forward two years and we had one of the coldest NY winters weve had in a long time. One weekend, we were expecting zero degree temps and a major snowstorm. Romeo was the last of the colony and I knew I had to bring him in. I even had an adoptive home readybut he turned out to be positive and they couldnt handle it. Soo, he stayed in my room for a few weeks, watching my every move, figuring out the TV and the vacuum cleaner werent that bad. Slowly, he started coming out of his crate at night when he thought I was asleep. Little baby stepsfirst the food dish got moved next to his crate. Then the litter box in the bathroom. And slowly, hed come out during the day. I knew we won the battle when I peeked out over my monitor to spot him on my bed. You could see it in his facethis is niiice and from that point on, he was totally comfortable being in and around we humans. Funny thing is that he never really wanted to get outhe rarely sat at the windowthe couch and the bed were always much more comfortable for him! Over these last 4 ½ years, Romeo turned into the most loving cat youd ever want to meet. Only thing I could never do was pick him up or restrain him in any way---he was just too scared. But hed jump up on me, lie on my chest as I was trying to get to sleep, follow me around like a puppy dog and otherwise just kept thanking all the humans he met for being safe and warm and loved. My other cats were a bit leary of him and Tucson never did take much of a liking to himall jealousy, Im sure. But Romeo persevered and the two of them had come to terms with each other... His final illness took him quickly. Hed never been real sick beforehad some gum and teeth problems a couple of times, but that was it. Going to the vet was a major trauma for him so Id always worked with my wonderful vet to keep those visits to a bare minimum. But today was one of those days that I knew he had to get to the vet asap. Hed been feeling poorly during the week and over the weekend, he started breathing very hardlike he couldnt catch his breath. Hed been on antibiotics for what I thought was another gum problem but when we got to the vet, I knew it was a whole lot more. My vet sent me immediately to our local specialty hospital and they confirmed the lymphoma. He had a large mass in his chest, his lungs had filled up with fluid, and I knew that emotionally and physically, he could never withstand an aggressive course of treatment that in all likelihood would only give him a short extension of his life. So, I made that decision we all dread after I looked in his eyes and knew he was telling me it was time. I stroked him to the end and told him I loved him. And do I regret taking him inABSOLUTELY NOT. He gave me so many wonderful memories and he will always be in my heart. And did he regret coming insideABSOLUTELY NOThe had almost 5 years of a wonderful life and I know that had he stayed out, he would have died a miserable death from the cold and hunger or an infection and he would have been alone. We cant save them foreverbut we can give them some wonderful time and we can all learn so very much about life from these little guys. Christiane Biagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Tweezer sneezing blood
Hi Sue, I would get him checked as soon as possible even if you have to go somewhere else. I don't want to scare you but it could be a tumor or some kind of blockage in his sinuses. Does his breathing sound at all different or labored? I hope it is something easily treatable ... -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
Lisa 3 of mine were mixed with one of my positives, Tucson, for 4 + years before I even knew she was positive. They shared dishes, litter boxes, groomed each other, and had the usual scrapes that all kitties do. None of my neg had been vaccinated cause it just wasn't an issue at the time. No neg ever came down w. FELV and though I did vaccinate them when I found out Tucson was pos, I never worried about it. I then got another pos, Romeo, an older guy who recently succumbed to lymphoma and though it was heartbreaking, I don't regret for one second taking him in 4 1/2 years ago. He was probably around 9-10 years old when he died. My Tuscon is the same age, 18 lbs and the biggest spoiled temperamental calico you could meet. You don't know how long you have with any animal and every minute just leaves a wonderful memory in your heart. I would perhaps seek out a vet who has had some experience with treating the things that come up w. a FELV cat. My original vet, who I loved, honestly told me he hadn't had much experience an helped me find someone who did. I ended up with a friend's vet who it turned out was the vet for a small little FELV rescue in the area. He's laid back, takes everything in stride, and has a lot of patients in mixed households. Its real important, I found, to have a vet who works with you Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Borden Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:48 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] So now what? My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of health, and I intend to keep it that way. Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right thing. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy
If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of "germ killer" before you come in the house. - Original Message - From: "Lisa Borden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy > > > I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come > in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to > think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my > clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk > for them. > > They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so > funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Southern NJ: FELV+ SIAMESE to be PTS
Hi, Jenna. Can you send me a pic of Stevie? I have 14 cats, two of which are FELV+ and are segregated in their own part of the house I've just rescued (like, last week) an older kitten (probably 6 months old or so) that has not been vetted yet, but also need to find HIM a home, as there literally is no extra space for him (but there WOULD be for Stevie, since I could just put him in with Martini and Rossi -- the two FELV+ orange kitties). Maybe we could make a trade? If not... I could still consider Stevie. Thanks, Susan > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 11:17:41 -0500 > To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Southern NJ: FELV+ SIAMESE to be PTS > > > > I have a photo of this kitty if interested. > Please contact Jenna below if you can help. > > > Stevie is a large male (neutered) SIAMESE that needs a home. He is very > VERY friendly and affectionate: loves to purr and rolls over for tummy rubs. > He > appears VERY healthy despite testing positive for FELV+. He was brought to > a local shelter. > Stevie can live a nice long life. He needs to be the ONLY cat in a home > (unless the OTHER cats are also FELV+). He is not contagious to doggies or > people or other animals. > Please help me find a home for him! He is located in Southern NJ and I will > help transport him to a loving home. 856 845 8554, leave message in box 2 > for JENNA > > THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! and THANK YOU! -Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] > (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > > Please vote! > > Tazzys Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue > Sultan, WA 98294 > _http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchallenge.faces?siteId= > 3_ > (http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchallenge.faces?siteId=3) > > > > > TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS > SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE > _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) > > > > Board Member for national rescue. > _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) > > OTRA VERIFIED TRANSPORTER > (On The Road Again) > > Terrie Mohr-Forker > > Copyright © 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. > **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & > more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt > p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Southern NJ: FELV+ SIAMESE to be PTS
I have a photo of this kitty if interested. Please contact Jenna below if you can help. Stevie is a large male (neutered) SIAMESE that needs a home. He is very VERY friendly and affectionate: loves to purr and rolls over for tummy rubs. He appears VERY healthy despite testing positive for FELV+. He was brought to a local shelter. Stevie can live a nice long life. He needs to be the ONLY cat in a home (unless the OTHER cats are also FELV+). He is not contagious to doggies or people or other animals. Please help me find a home for him! He is located in Southern NJ and I will help transport him to a loving home. 856 845 8554, leave message in box 2 for JENNA THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! and THANK YOU! -Jenna [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Please vote! Tazzys Animal Transports/Siamese and Collie Rescue Sultan, WA 98294 _http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchallenge.faces?siteId= 3_ (http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/clickToGive/shelterchallenge.faces?siteId=3) TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) Board Member for national rescue. _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) OTRA VERIFIED TRANSPORTER (On The Road Again) Terrie Mohr-Forker Copyright © 2007-2008 Tazzy's.org. All rights reserved. **Get the Moviefone Toolbar. Showtimes, theaters, movie news & more!(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1212774565x1200812037/aol?redir=htt p://toolbar.aol.com/moviefone/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown0001) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy
My shoes never come into the house...they can bring in all kinds of things. Visitors are asked to take their shoes off at the door. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Borden Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk for them. They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy
I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk for them. They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
HI Lisa You will not regret keeping this kitty. I wound up mixing my positives and negative because they were all exposed before I found out what was going on. I felt it was less stressful. Keep the litter box cleaned out. I really thought I could not manage what I had going on. I will nto go into details but I wound up with 4 positive cats one was a resue from animal control and probably the source. It was a nightmare initially. I am not going to say it will be a piece of cake but it will get better. I would do it again if I wind up with another positive. We all have an endpoint on this earth. We just do not know when. Ok so yesterday was my dad's birthday he has been gone 14 years. Bless you Sally > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soul mate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
A friend has mixed positives and negatives with the negatives never becoming positive. It's important to keep the negatives healthy because of the depressed immune system of the positive kitty. If someone does get sick, they should be isolated for the protection of all the kitties. Laurie From: Lisa Borden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] So now what? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 8:47 AM My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of health, and I intend to keep it that way. Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right thing. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
Please check with a holistic vet if that fits into your belief system and feed the absolute best diet you can. It does not have to be the most expensive, but one full of vitamins (C especially--grind up veggies and mix with the food). Avoid grains. Stick with this group. People don't always agree and belief systems vary but the information and support is great and will help you find your way. On Nov 15, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Pat Kachur wrote: > Hi Lisa - In my opinion you are doing the right thing. I have 7 > cats; one, > who I adopted in July 2007 at about age 5, is positive. My other > cats are > all adults. I discussed thoroughly with my vet, who said the > vaccine is > more than 90% effecttive and that it is very unlikely my healthy > adult cats > would be affected. So, a year and four months later--all are > healthy. The > positive cat has no symptoms, other than being deaf (which may or > may not be > caused by the leukemia). I am very glad that I did what I did. > Mandy (the > positive kitty) is the most wonderful, loving kitty I have ever had. > > > Pat > > > - Original Message - > From: "Lisa Borden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:47 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] So now what? > > >> >> >> My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should >> keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and >> isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out >> even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of >> the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my >> other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have >> been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other >> boy >> is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned >> about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of >> health, and I intend to keep it that way. >> >> Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right >> thing. >> >> Lisa >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee
She is there but in a much different form. She is especially close when times are sad. Please talk to her. YOu will be surprised. On Nov 15, 2008, at 7:21 AM, Sherry DeHaan wrote: > Three years ago today my Maizee Grace left this world. :( Sometimes > it seems like yesterday that my beautiful baby girl was still here > with me. > She is the reason that I volunteer at Sids(felv,fiv cat sanctuary).I > have had the honor to love MANY wonderful babies in the last 3 > years.Each and every one of them have a special place in my heart. > Thank you Maizee > > Sherry > > > > "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary > than our own, > Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. > Unable to accept its awful gaps. > We still would have it no other way" > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
Lisa, I don't think any of us can tell you what is the right thing to do. I rescued 2 dumpster kittens early this year. Both were kept in the garage until vetted. Both tested positive. Then I rescued a 3rd kitten from the colony. She tested negative. I kept Sissy and Rocket in the garage until I was able to give Stormie all her shots including the FeLV vaccine and booster. I got my other 2 indoor kitties current on their FeLV vaccine. Since it was getting hot here I moved Sissy and Rocket into my bathroom/bedroom. They are both asymptomatic. I eventually introduced them to my other 3 indoor kitties. So far no problems. I know others on this list have always mixed their kitties while some have never mixed them. Each of us has to make the decision on what is best for their kitties. By the way I now have 4 positive dumpster kittens in the garage that I rescued this fall. Mattie is blind, CJ only has sight in one eye and the other 2 seem fine. They were 4 weeks old when I found them. Just couldn't leave them there to die. I have added a 6' x 12' chicken wire enclosure to the garage. So far they are doing fine. 5 cats in the cottage is all I have room for. I'm still hoping to find a forever home for Bright Eyes and Houdini. Sharyl --- On Sat, 11/15/08, Lisa Borden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Lisa Borden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] So now what? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 8:47 AM My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of health, and I intend to keep it that way. Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right thing. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] So now what?
Hi Lisa - In my opinion you are doing the right thing. I have 7 cats; one, who I adopted in July 2007 at about age 5, is positive. My other cats are all adults. I discussed thoroughly with my vet, who said the vaccine is more than 90% effecttive and that it is very unlikely my healthy adult cats would be affected. So, a year and four months later--all are healthy. The positive cat has no symptoms, other than being deaf (which may or may not be caused by the leukemia). I am very glad that I did what I did. Mandy (the positive kitty) is the most wonderful, loving kitty I have ever had. Pat - Original Message - From: "Lisa Borden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:47 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] So now what? > > > My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should > keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and > isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out > even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of > the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my > other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have > been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy > is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned > about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of > health, and I intend to keep it that way. > > Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right > thing. > > Lisa > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee
Maizee Grace would be so proud of the work you are doing at Sids. Your work is a wonderful tribute to her. Sharyl --- On Sat, 11/15/08, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee To: "Felvtalk" Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 8:21 AM Three years ago today my Maizee Grace left this world. :( Sometimes it seems like yesterday that my beautiful baby girl was still here with me. She is the reason that I volunteer at Sids(felv,fiv cat sanctuary).I have had the honor to love MANY wonderful babies in the last 3 years.Each and every one of them have a special place in my heart. Thank you Maizee Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee
Hi Lynne,You know I am actually surprisingly not sad today.I do miss her very much! But I believe Maizee came into my life to lead me to the Sids kids that so need my love(ok now I am crying).Sometimes I think I cannot keep volunteering,especially when we have alot of losses one right after another.But then I think of some of my favorites like Beth,Colin,Luna,Pluto,Mooshu,Adam,Orion,Virgil,Sheperd(my new slow dance partner since Marley left) the list is VERY long.But they keep me going.I know a few of them are attached to me and I could never let them down. Thank you for your kind words, Sherry and ALL her wonderful furry friends :) "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" --- On Sat, 11/15/08, Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Lynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 8:50 AM This must be a sad day for you Sherry. I'm finding lately I miss my dear old Lennie boy more and more. He was very elderly, with little quality of life left when we had him put to rest this summer but I miss caring for him and his very soft purr even though he had little to be happy about at the end. Then there's Boo. My heart still breaks every time I think of what that little guy went through. I know we adopted Snow the little persian to fill that void but of course it doesn't work that way. We still miss Boo and Snowy is not in the least similar to him. Boo wasn't the most affectionate cat, kind of manly, and of course terminally ill, but Snow is totally dependent on us and demanding of attention. She's a determined little girl. I must be up at 6:30 even on weekends because Snow insists on it and I must be in bed by 10:30 because that's when she wants to go to bed. I so admire people like yourself who will do this wonderful volunteer work knowing full well what the future holds for many of these little souls. I am ashamed to say I could not put myself through that kind of heartbreak, not after our short time with BooBoo dealing with that horrible disease. Lynne - Original Message - From: "Sherry DeHaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Felvtalk" Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee Three years ago today my Maizee Grace left this world. :( Sometimes it seems like yesterday that my beautiful baby girl was still here with me. She is the reason that I volunteer at Sids(felv,fiv cat sanctuary).I have had the honor to love MANY wonderful babies in the last 3 years.Each and every one of them have a special place in my heart. Thank you Maizee Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3615 (20081115) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] So now what?
My kitten tested positive on his IFA test. My vet told me I should keep him isolated, or euthanize him. I couldn't do the latter, and isolating him ... well, I think that would just stress everyone out even more. So after calling a good friend while sitting outside of the vet's office last night, in tears, he's still with me, with my other cats, and I'm treating him for his diarrhea. My other cats have been vaccinated - my girl had her booster last month, and my other boy is going in on Thursday for his booster. He's the one I'm concerned about. He's the absolute LOVE of my life. But he's the picture of health, and I intend to keep it that way. Please just tell me that I can do this ... that I'm doing the right thing. Lisa ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee
This must be a sad day for you Sherry. I'm finding lately I miss my dear old Lennie boy more and more. He was very elderly, with little quality of life left when we had him put to rest this summer but I miss caring for him and his very soft purr even though he had little to be happy about at the end. Then there's Boo. My heart still breaks every time I think of what that little guy went through. I know we adopted Snow the little persian to fill that void but of course it doesn't work that way. We still miss Boo and Snowy is not in the least similar to him. Boo wasn't the most affectionate cat, kind of manly, and of course terminally ill, but Snow is totally dependent on us and demanding of attention. She's a determined little girl. I must be up at 6:30 even on weekends because Snow insists on it and I must be in bed by 10:30 because that's when she wants to go to bed. I so admire people like yourself who will do this wonderful volunteer work knowing full well what the future holds for many of these little souls. I am ashamed to say I could not put myself through that kind of heartbreak, not after our short time with BooBoo dealing with that horrible disease. Lynne - Original Message - From: "Sherry DeHaan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Felvtalk" Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Missing Maizee Three years ago today my Maizee Grace left this world. :( Sometimes it seems like yesterday that my beautiful baby girl was still here with me. She is the reason that I volunteer at Sids(felv,fiv cat sanctuary).I have had the honor to love MANY wonderful babies in the last 3 years.Each and every one of them have a special place in my heart. Thank you Maizee Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 3615 (20081115) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Missing Maizee
Three years ago today my Maizee Grace left this world. :( Sometimes it seems like yesterday that my beautiful baby girl was still here with me. She is the reason that I volunteer at Sids(felv,fiv cat sanctuary).I have had the honor to love MANY wonderful babies in the last 3 years.Each and every one of them have a special place in my heart. Thank you Maizee Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org