Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Beth]

there's pluses &minuses to everythging. you have to choose what's best for your 
situation. I don't let most of my cats out so I don't collar or chip, but for 
our shelter with over 300 cats to keep track of chips are a godsend

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Natalie  wrote:

>Here's an article in Washington Post, but I also have info from a holistic
>veterinarian on microchips.  I will send later when I have time to look
>through my files...
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090800
>997_pf.html 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
>Do they? Is there documentation on this?
>
>I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?
>
>On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:
>
>> But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
>> death
>> row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>>
>> I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
>pets.
>> There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.
>>
>> Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
>> animals that come through.
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:
>>
>> > I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
>> > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>> >
>> > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
>> I've
>> > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
>> > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
>center
>> &
>> > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
>> >
>> > Beth
>> > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
>www.Furkids.org<
>> http://www.furkids.org/>
>>  >
>> > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Lorrie 
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
>> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
>> >
>> > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
>> > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
>> > $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
>> > my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
>> > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
>> > it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
>> >
>> > Lorrie
>> >
>> >
>> > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
>> >
>> > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
>> > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
>> > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
>> > > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
>> > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
>> > >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[MaiMaiPG]

They are supposed to here and Louisville and I know a lot of vets have  
scanners (looking for the person of a lost dog who made the mistake of  
going off the farm).  I can hopeand pray that the chps will help  
but I think I will make sure of their locations in the future.

On May 24, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Beth wrote:


the ACs here do scan thank goodness.

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Natalie  wrote:

My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have  
canners,

and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro
chipped.
I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost
cat-escape-proof.
Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the  
garage for
recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all  
the way
the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door,  
the cat
just flew out.  He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and  
extremely cold in
an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in  
the next
town).  This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around.   
Who knows
where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came  
from.a

microchip wouldn't have done any good with him.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola  
cresti

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and  
far

apart.
That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the  
chip was

introduced.
I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes
outside
when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart  
little

critter)
so she's chipped but collarless.

The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go  
through the

time
when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have  
a collar


with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them  
up they

have
the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!"
But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find  
that he
slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged)  
another

time
he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get  
himself rid of

it.
But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets  
rid of

them,
but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten  
himself

stuf
on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and  
chase him

because
then he didn't want to be caught)

This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten  
himself

stuck
on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting  
stuck

anymore.

If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since  
they go

out, I
don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they  
know that

someone WILL be looking for them.

It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got  
themselves stuck

with
the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and  
there are so


many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is  
looked

after!!"  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)




From: Katy Doyle 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but  
you

can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on  
them in

case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie  wrote:

Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's  
chip
migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet  
discovered

the

chip
I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it  
may be

"too

big" to be accepted by group address.
Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie   
wrote:


But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat  
from

death
row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about  
scanning stray

animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie   
wrote:


I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that  
this

happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every  
day
when I came home from work,

Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Beth]

the ACs here do scan thank goodness.

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Natalie  wrote:

>My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners,
>and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro
>chipped.
>I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost
>cat-escape-proof.  
>Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for
>recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way
>the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat
>just flew out.  He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in
>an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next
>town).  This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around.  Who knows
>where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a
>microchip wouldn't have done any good with him.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
>[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
>Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
>I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far
>apart.
>That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was 
>introduced.
>I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes
>outside 
>when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little
>critter) 
>so she's chipped but collarless.
>
>The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the
>time 
>when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar
>
>with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they
>have 
>the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!"
>But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he 
>slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another
>time 
>he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of
>it.
>But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of
>them, 
>but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself
>stuf 
>on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him
>because 
>then he didn't want to be caught)
>
>This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself
>stuck 
>on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck 
>anymore.
>
>If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go
>out, I 
>don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that 
>someone WILL be looking for them.
>
>It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck
>with 
>the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so
>
>many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is looked 
>after!!"  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)
>
>
>
>
>From: Katy Doyle 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
>Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.
>
>But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
>can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/
>
>Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
>tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.
>
>I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
>case they get lost.
>
>On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie  wrote:
>
>> Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
>> migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered
>the
>> chip
>> I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be
>"too
>> big" to be accepted by group address.
>> Do they? Is there documentation on this?
>>
>> I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?
>>
>> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:
>>
>> > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
>> > death
>> > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
>> > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
>> > animals that come through.
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:
>> >
>> > > I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
>> > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
>> > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
>> > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
>> > > > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
>> > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
>> > > >
>> > >>.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_

Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[MaiMaiPG]

I suspect that I will start having my little guys (and dog) scanned  
when I have them at a vet's just to make sure the chip is where it s  
supposed to be.

On May 24, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Natalie wrote:

My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have  
canners,

and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro
chipped.
I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost
cat-escape-proof.
Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage  
for
recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all  
the way
the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door,  
the cat
just flew out.  He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely  
cold in
an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in  
the next
town).  This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around.   
Who knows
where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came  
from.a

microchip wouldn't have done any good with him.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far
apart.
That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip  
was

introduced.
I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes
outside
when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart  
little

critter)
so she's chipped but collarless.

The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go  
through the

time
when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have  
a collar


with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them  
up they

have
the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!"
But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find  
that he
slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged)  
another

time
he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get  
himself rid of

it.
But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets  
rid of

them,
but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten  
himself

stuf
on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase  
him

because
then he didn't want to be caught)

This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten  
himself

stuck
on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting  
stuck

anymore.

If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since  
they go

out, I
don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they  
know that

someone WILL be looking for them.

It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves  
stuck

with
the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and  
there are so


many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is  
looked

after!!"  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)




From: Katy Doyle 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but  
you

can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on  
them in

case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie  wrote:


Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet  
discovered

the

chip
I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may  
be

"too

big" to be accepted by group address.
Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:

But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat  
from

death
row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning  
stray

animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie   
wrote:


I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that  
this

happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every  
day
when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was  
sitting

right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
so." Sigh. ~Bonnie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Natalie]

My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners,
and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro
chipped.
I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost
cat-escape-proof.  
Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for
recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way
the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat
just flew out.  He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in
an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next
town).  This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around.  Who knows
where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a
microchip wouldn't have done any good with him.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far
apart.
That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was 
introduced.
I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes
outside 
when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little
critter) 
so she's chipped but collarless.

The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the
time 
when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar

with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they
have 
the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!"
But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he 
slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another
time 
he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of
it.
But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of
them, 
but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself
stuf 
on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him
because 
then he didn't want to be caught)

This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself
stuck 
on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck 
anymore.

If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go
out, I 
don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that 
someone WILL be looking for them.

It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck
with 
the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so

many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is looked 
after!!"  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)




From: Katy Doyle 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
> migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered
the
> chip
> I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be
"too
> big" to be accepted by group address.
> Do they? Is there documentation on this?
>
> I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
> > death
> > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
> > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
> > animals that come through.
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:
> >
> > > I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > > > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> > > >
> > >>.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> >
> >>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[MaiMaiPG]

That is my fear.  Cats are rarely bothered with here.  They are pests  
to be ignored or shot.  But there are areas between here and  
Louisville where Copper and Thomas might be cared about.  There is a  
particular concern about wrecks.  They and the dog ride in carriers  
but they can be thrown out of first responders could need information  
if I was unable to provide it.  Same concerns re: fires, tornadoes,  
etc.  I've witnessed too much and these little guys (and the dog) are  
my life.


Re tags on a collar.  Bob, the dog, has a metal plate bradded to his  
collar.  I know people with hunting dogs routinely use this instead of  
tags.  I don't know if something similar is available for cat collars  
or not.  Bet one could be altered.

On May 24, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Beth wrote:

Our shelter microchips all our cats. It allowed us 2 recover 2 that  
had bee=
n turned in as strays to AC. With out the chips they would have been  
2 more=

dead black cats at AC.

Beth

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--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Natalie  wrote:

From: Natalie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:26 PM

But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat  
from death

row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my  
furry pets.

There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning  
stray

animals that come through.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[paola cresti]

I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart.
That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was 
introduced.
I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside 
when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little 
critter) 
so she's chipped but collarless.

The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the 
time 
when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar 
with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have 
the chip) that tells the neighbours "I'm taken care of!!"
But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he 
slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time 
he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it.
But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of 
them, 
but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf 
on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him 
because 
then he didn't want to be caught)

This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself 
stuck 
on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck 
anymore.

If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, 
I 
don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that 
someone WILL be looking for them.

It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with 
the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so 
many strays/ferals around that I want people to know "this cat is looked 
after!!"  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)




From: Katy Doyle 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
> migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the
> chip
> I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too
> big" to be accepted by group address.
> Do they? Is there documentation on this?
>
> I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
> > death
> > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
> > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
> > animals that come through.
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:
> >
> > > I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > > > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> > > >
> > >>.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Lynda Wilson]

I'll keep the chip too. I think the benefits out weigh the risks. There are 
risks in vaccinations as well.
- Original Message - 
From: "Katy Doyle" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars



Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:


But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
death
row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry 
pets.

There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:

> I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
> I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
I've
> seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in 
> their
> mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption 
> center

&
> luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
>
> Beth
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! 
> www.Furkids.org<

http://www.furkids.org/>
 >
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:
>
> From: Lorrie 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
>
> My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
> now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
> $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
> my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
> and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
> it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
>
> > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Beth]

Our shelter microchips all our cats. It allowed us 2 recover 2 that had bee=
n turned in as strays to AC. With out the chips they would have been 2 more=
 dead black cats at AC.

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Natalie  wrote:

From: Natalie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:26 PM

But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from death
row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets.
There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
animals that come through.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Beth]

I would stay with the chip, not a tattoo. AC scan for chips, but someone would 
really have to be looking to see a tattoo on a cat.

Beth
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--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Katy Doyle  wrote:

From: Katy Doyle 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:47 PM

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
> migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the
> chip
> I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too
> big" to be accepted by group address.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
>  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
> Do they? Is there documentation on this?
>
> I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
> > death
> > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
> >
> > I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
> pets.
> > There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.
> >
> > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
> > animals that come through.
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:
> >
> > > I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
> > >
> > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
> > I've
> > > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in
> their
> > > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
> center
> > &
> > > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
> > >
> > > Beth
> > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
> www.Furkids.org <
> > http://www.furkids.org/>
> >  >
> > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Lorrie 
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
> > >
> > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
> > > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
> > > $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
> > > my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
> > > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
> > > it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
> > >
> > > Lorrie
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > > > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Natalie]

One of my rescues got a tattoo on the inside of the ear - "04", meaning the
year that he was "done".

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
> migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered
the
> chip
> I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be
"too
> big" to be accepted by group address.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
>  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
> Do they? Is there documentation on this?
>
> I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
> > death
> > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
> >
> > I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
> pets.
> > There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.
> >
> > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
> > animals that come through.
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:
> >
> > > I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
> > >
> > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
> > I've
> > > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in
> their
> > > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
> center
> > &
> > > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
> > >
> > > Beth
> > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
> www.Furkids.org <
> > http://www.furkids.org/>
> >  >
> > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Lorrie 
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
> > >
> > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
> > > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
> > > $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
> > > my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
> > > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
> > > it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
> > >
> > > Lorrie
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > > > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Natalie]

Here's an article in Washington Post, but I also have info from a holistic
veterinarian on microchips.  I will send later when I have time to look
through my files...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090800
997_pf.html 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
> death
> row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
> I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
pets.
> There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.
>
> Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
> animals that come through.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
> >
> > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
> I've
> > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
> > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
center
> &
> > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
> >
> > Beth
> > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
www.Furkids.org<
> http://www.furkids.org/>
>  >
> > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:
> >
> > From: Lorrie 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
> >
> > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
> > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
> > $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
> > my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
> > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
> > it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
> >
> > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> >
> > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> > >
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Katy Doyle]

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
> migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the
> chip
> I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too
> big" to be accepted by group address.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
>  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
> Do they? Is there documentation on this?
>
> I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
> > death
> > row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
> >
> > I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
> pets.
> > There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.
> >
> > Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
> > animals that come through.
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:
> >
> > > I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> > > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
> > >
> > > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
> > I've
> > > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in
> their
> > > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
> center
> > &
> > > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
> > >
> > > Beth
> > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
> www.Furkids.org <
> > http://www.furkids.org/>
> >  >
> > > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Lorrie 
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
> > >
> > > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
> > > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
> > > $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
> > > my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
> > > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
> > > it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
> > >
> > > Lorrie
> > >
> > >
> > > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> > >
> > > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > > > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Natalie]

Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the
chip
I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be "too
big" to be accepted by group address.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
> death
> row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
> I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
pets.
> There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.
>
> Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
> animals that come through.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
> >
> > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
> I've
> > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
> > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
center
> &
> > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
> >
> > Beth
> > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
www.Furkids.org<
> http://www.furkids.org/>
>  >
> > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:
> >
> > From: Lorrie 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
> >
> > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
> > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
> > $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
> > my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
> > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
> > it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
> >
> > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> >
> > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> > >
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Katy Doyle]

Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie  wrote:

> But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
> death
> row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
> I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets.
> There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.
>
> Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
> animals that come through.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:
>
> > I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> > happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
> >
> > I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
> I've
> > seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
> > mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center
> &
> > luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
> >
> > Beth
> > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org<
> http://www.furkids.org/>
>  >
> > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:
> >
> > From: Lorrie 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
> >
> > My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
> > now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
> > $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
> > my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
> > and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
> > it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
> >
> > On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
> >
> > > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> > >
> >
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[Natalie]

But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from death
row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets.
There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:

> I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
> I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've
> seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
> mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center
&
> luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
>
> Beth
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org 
>
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:
>
> From: Lorrie 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
>
> My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
> now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
> $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
> my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
> and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
> it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
>
> > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> >
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Another plea for our FELV+ mom

[Kelley Saveika]

She has been spayed - they tested her at that time.  She's asymptomatic at
this time.
The kittens were taken from her and I'm not quite sure their status at this
moment.
I will ask.  I know we took 10 kittens to the Humane Society (NO KILL, we
would not take them somewhere to be killed, we are just completely out of
foster space).
I'm sure she has or had fleas, I will ask Denis.

I feel colonies with Denis but not this colony.  I will forward this email
to him and let him get in touch with you as he knows more than I do.

THANK YOU SO MUCH for giving this baby a chance.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:58 AM, jbero tds.net  wrote:

> Kelly,
>
> Okay, I am way full with animals over here, but I have one felv+ female who
> is separate from the rest of the household.  She is about  8 and very
> healthy.  I would qualify her as a carrier of the virus.  She doesn't love
> other cats, but has been more and more interested in companionship lately.
> She tolerates others at this point.  I might be able to help you out and
> put
> the two together.  I am little hesitant to put any stress on my little
> healthy felv+ cat, but if you think your felv+ girl is okay with another
> cat
> and not currently exhibiting signs of the disease, I could try it.  Do you
> know how old she is, clearly she's not spayed, or has she been now?  What
> happened with the kittens?  Any signs of anemia or opportunistic
> infections?  Fleas, etc?
>
> Also, I live in Wisconsin.  Not sure where you're at.  I have some free
> time
> in July if you're not too far I could take a small road trip.
>
> Well, let me know.
>
> Jenny
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Kelley Saveika 
> wrote:
>
> > Still have this beautiful Siamese mom who is FELV+.  From what I gather
> she
> > is feral and that will be a death sentence if she is taken to the
> shelter.
> >  Anyone got any ideas on this?  I am open to suggestions.  I cannot take
> > her
> > as i have an immune suppressed cat here.
> >
> > --
> > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
> >
> > http://www.rescuties.org
> >
> > Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
> >
> > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
> >
> > Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
> > http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties
> >
> > Please help Trooper!
> >
> > http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper
> >
> >
> > "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
> > can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they
> > should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue."
> >
> > - Nathan Winograd
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http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

Please help Trooper!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper


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can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they
should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue."

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Re: [Felvtalk] Another plea for our FELV+ mom

[jbero tds.net]

Kelly,

Okay, I am way full with animals over here, but I have one felv+ female who
is separate from the rest of the household.  She is about  8 and very
healthy.  I would qualify her as a carrier of the virus.  She doesn't love
other cats, but has been more and more interested in companionship lately.
She tolerates others at this point.  I might be able to help you out and put
the two together.  I am little hesitant to put any stress on my little
healthy felv+ cat, but if you think your felv+ girl is okay with another cat
and not currently exhibiting signs of the disease, I could try it.  Do you
know how old she is, clearly she's not spayed, or has she been now?  What
happened with the kittens?  Any signs of anemia or opportunistic
infections?  Fleas, etc?

Also, I live in Wisconsin.  Not sure where you're at.  I have some free time
in July if you're not too far I could take a small road trip.

Well, let me know.

Jenny

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Kelley Saveika  wrote:

> Still have this beautiful Siamese mom who is FELV+.  From what I gather she
> is feral and that will be a death sentence if she is taken to the shelter.
>  Anyone got any ideas on this?  I am open to suggestions.  I cannot take
> her
> as i have an immune suppressed cat here.
>
> --
> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
>
> http://www.rescuties.org
>
> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20
>
> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
>
> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties
>
> Please help Trooper!
>
> http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper
>
>
> "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they
> can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they
> should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue."
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[MaiMaiPG]

I have both for the dog because people are more likely to catch and  
check on a dog's person here.  The cats are microchipped even though  
they are technically indoors only.  Copper and Thomas travel with me  
and it offers protection in case of a wreckor in case Copper takes  
an unauthorized walk...again.  People don't seem overly concerned  
about cats (shame).


I had a problem with a break-away on Mi Tu.  She hung her paw in it  
and it did not allow her to escape it.  In fact, had I not been home,  
she could have strangled herself.  No more collars for my cats.

On May 24, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Katy Doyle wrote:

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my  
furry pets.

There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning  
stray

animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:


I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats  
outside. I've
seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in  
their
mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption  
center &

luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

Beth
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--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:

From: Lorrie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
$19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

Lorrie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
so." Sigh. ~Bonnie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Lynda Wilson]

I agree Katy. I get those notices all the time through my email from "Home 
Again" (the microchip company) that notifies lost pets in your area. My vet 
scans stray animals often as well. It's a great thing to have! It costs $16 
a year for the membership.


Lynda
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars



I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets.
There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:


I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. 
I've

seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center 
&

luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org 

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:

From: Lorrie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
$19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

Lorrie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

> Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
>

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Katy Doyle]

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets.
There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie  wrote:

> I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
> happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
>
> I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've
> seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
> mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center &
> luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
>
> Beth
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org 
>
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:
>
> From: Lorrie 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
>
> My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
> now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
> $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
> my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
> and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
> it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
>
> Lorrie
>
>
> On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
>
> > Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> > rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> > when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> > right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> > so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Natalie]

I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've
seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center &
luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:

From: Lorrie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so 
now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
$19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

Lorrie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

> Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

[Beth]

I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen 
several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths 
trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center & luckily 
someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie  wrote:

From: Lorrie 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so 
now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
$19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

Lorrie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

> Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws

[Natalie]

If the nails are white, it's easy to cut them right up to the quick, when
they're dark, it's not.  Usually, cut off the part that comes out and
creates a thin hook.  There are diagrams on where and how to in some of the
"do not declaw" info I sent to some people who requested it. Natalie

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Wonder about trimming the nails?  I do my guys a lot but the vets did  
them once and they can be trimmed a lot shorter than I have been  
cutting them.
On May 23, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

> Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny  
> rhinestones.
> Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur!
> But every day when I came home from work, the collar, still  
> fastened, was
> sitting right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even  
> think
> so."
> Sigh.
> ~Bonnie
>
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> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> dlg...@windstream.net
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 9:41 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
>
> I cannot even begin to think about soft paws for my pride.  I don't  
> think I
> would come out of it alive.  We do not like anything  put on us.
>
>  Melinda Kerr  wrote:
>> Thanks for all the suggestions!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 23, 2011, at 6:27 AM, MaiMaiPG  wrote:
>>
>>> And the bigger the better.  Especially if they can get in safely and
> have at it.
>>> On May 22, 2011, at 4:22 PM, Natalie wrote:
>>>
 Any cardboard box is also great - let them destroy them, toss
 them,. get them new ones...sprinkle catnip inside!

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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 1:19 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws

 Copper and Thomas like sheets (large) of Styrofoam..I have some on
 the floor from packaging and a couple of styrofoam insulation
 boards (8 foot +) leaning against a wall in the garage.  A little
 messy but that is what vacs and brooms are for.
 On May 22, 2011, at 9:02 AM, Natalie wrote:

> I have known many people who used SoftPaws - it all depends on the
> cat and one's perseveranceno two cats are the same!
> The best thing to do is to trim the claws regularly and provide
> many scratching surfaces - some cats like vertical and others
> prefer horizontal.
> Cats usually like to scratch something after waking up and/or
> getting off the litter box, that's why it's a good idea to have
> those available near those sources.  If they pick on a corner of a
> sofa, cover with double-sided sticky tape and place a good scratch
> post next to it until the cat gets used to it.  Not all scratch
> posts are created equally!  Carpet covered ones send the wrong
> message to cats.vertical or horizontal.  The best ones are
> real wood, next best are covered with sisal twine woven material,
> and then just plain sisal rope.  In a multiple-cat household, the
> last is the least effective because those twines are scratched
> apart and have to be recovered (can be done!)  Using catnip on
> scratch posts to retrain is a good idea - and pulling a toy up the
> scratch post works really well!  Natalie -Original
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> Kerr
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 11:38 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
>
> Has anyone tried Soft Paws for their cats?  I have read a few
> unfavorable reviews on Amazon.com, but even more favorable ones.
> My cats are starting to damage the persian rugs and leather
> carpet.  My husband is threatening bodily harm if they don't stop
> it!
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws

[Natalie]

I have had horrible experiences with collars, even though the cats did NOT
go out.  I thought that something was very wrong, the cat's head was at a
strange angle, like a spasm, couldn't moveHe got his tooth caught on a
collar.it WAS a breakaway, but it didn't break awaythis and another
cat was long-haired, so one couldn't see immediately what the problem was.
This happened several times - I gave up on collars with ID from then one -
they can get caught in branches, under fences and strangle..Natalie

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My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so 
now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
$19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

Lorrie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

> Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws

[Lorrie]

My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so 
now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
$19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

Lorrie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

> Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
> rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
> when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
> right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, "I don't even think
> so." Sigh. ~Bonnie
> 

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