Re: [Felvtalk] Insight Please
Out of my 3 males from the same litter, only 1 tested positive. Their Mom has never tested positive. His brothers have always been negative. No doctor or specialist we have dealt with, can explain this. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Beth Noren maxgoodb...@gmail.com wrote: Marnie, It is common for this to happen. I trapped 5 plus mom, mom was snap negative, runt was positive, 4 others were negative. 6 weeks later one of the negatives got a fever, was retested, and was positive. We think the first test was done too soon after his last exposure, there was not enough antigen yet in his body for the test to detect. Some vets will wrongly try to tell you that they will all eventually test positive. This is definitely not true. Three of our negative littermates are now 4.5 years old and still negative. As far as why this happens, there are a few different theories, but no one knows for sure. One that I have heard is that they could be infected by a nanny cat. In our case we only did the Elisa on the momma, then spayed and released her. Had we done an IFA, she may have showed positive. Following is a link to a chart which shows what testing path to follow based on the results that you are getting. http://www.felineleukemia.org/felvhlth.html Best wishes, Beth On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Marnie marni...@embarqmail.com wrote: My shelter just took in a litter of 5 kittens. They are about 8 weeks old. The 3 females tested possible for feline leukemia with the Idexx snap test and the 2 males were negative. We retested from another batch of tests and the same thing. How is this possible if they are all from the same mother? Can anyone shed some light on this please? Marnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI
My cat was diagnosed 2 years ago with the same thing. He went on an aggressive therapy of Interferon and LTCI with good results. He now test negative, however, with being on Prednisolone, it may just be hiding. My story is a very long one, with a lot of history! You are welcome to email me at cstet...@hotmail.com Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2010, at 7:34 AM, Sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I want to introduce myself and my very beautiful Ragdoll kitten Kelsea who tested positive for FeLV in the bone marrow ( I know it is not a good thing) . Kelsea was diagnose with FeLV about 8 weeks ago. Right now she is doing wonderful on the treatment plan her vet has her on, which includes Interferon, Atopic and a steroid. She was on dimethylgycine to build up her red blood cells, she has been off the dimethlgycine for about two weeks now. At this point all her all her blood work is normal. She is putting on weight; over 2 pounds since her diagnoses. To look at this little one you would not even know she was sick. : ) I’m hoping someone could let me know anything about LTCI. I’m not thinking about change Kelsea’s med now, since she is doing so well. I would just like a little more information on LTCI. i.e. what kind of success has it had in FeLV. I am also wondering what are the chances the FeLV will go into remission if it is in the bone marrow? Kelsea’s vet tell me that the chances are very low, but I just need to know if it has happen to anyone out there. Many Purrr to all, Kelsea and Sharon ( Kelsea’s Mom) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI reply for nephew's FELV + kitten
I second that Andy!! It is a wonder drug! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Andy Domek oxjake...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi all, This is in reply to the poster who asked about anyone with recent successes with LTCI. My 6 year old FELV + (since birth) cat, Aggie, has been on LTCI since June and her bloodwork has improved a great deal. For the first time in her life, her WBC is firmly in the normal range. Prior to this, low normal of 4.2 was the best we had, and that was not often that it was that high. Usually 3.8 or 4.0 when we would run tests. It was 4.8 as of the last test a month or two ago (up from 2.0) two months prior. She gets a shot every two weeks. We started her when aspects of her bloodwork started going steadily downhill: neutrophils, WBC, and platelets. We were going to stretch it out to monthly, but she had a seizure when we went longer (though now I suspect it might have been the insecticide that was sprayed outside the house a few days before, --and she likes to sit at the screen door) and it is two weeks for the forseeable future. No seizures in 3 months (knock on wood), weight is good, and most recent bloodwork has been the best of her life. She also gets Alpha interferon daily (since birth--so for 6 and a half years now), and I mix a little bit of astragalus into her wet food every night (for the last year--since her surgery to remove an adenocarcinoma of the salivary gland in July of 2009). While I don't think the LTCI is a cure, we did notice an improvement in bloodwork, and the weight she started to lose came back. I think it is probably keeping her head above water. I get weird when I talk about her success--I'm always afraid I'm going to jinx her or something. Stupid, I know. I'm sorry I don't post more--when I try to hit the reply button at the bottom of the archives page, it tells me it can't process my request. But hopefully this answers some of your questions! Happy to answer any more you may have. Andy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Thank you for sharing Murphy's journey-we learned so much from all of you here!
Alice, I too live in Sacramento you and I lots in common. Gray Cat goes to Akaal Pet Hospital in Carmichael. We have been fighting this for 2+ years. I call Gray my $30,000.00 cat, but I wouldn't trade one penny for the joy he his two brothers have brought into our lives! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2010, at 7:14 PM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: This has been a long journey and we have so much to thank all of you for. First of all, most of the people in our day to day lives haven't got a clue what we are going through. We had Rosie to the vet today for her check up-she's been sneezing a bit the last few days. She got her CBC drawn (results tomorrow) and she checked out perfect, but a little PennG and cypro to see if we can nip the sneezing-so far tonight she has not sneezed. I'll add the Lysine for good measure. Murphy did sneeze right in her face a few times recently. She will barely touch wet food the last week since Murphy hasn't been eating along side of her. Last night about 1 am she was wailing-carrying her toy around the house. Glenn got up and spent some time with her in the living room so I could get to sleep, I had to work today. Our vet was so kind-Dr Krysta at the Sacramento Cat Hospital and she said they have learned so much with Murphy and treating FeLV with open eyes and minds. Thanks to this board, we discovered the Imulan LTCI-they ordered it for us over a year ago. I believe it did give us more time with Murphy. Thanks to Dawn and the suggestion to try Rutin for the fluid in his lungs-the vet was amazed at how great his lungs sounded after a short time with the Rutin-she said they used it for another condition but had never considered using it for FeLV cats and the fluid in their chests with the Lymphoma. When Rosie came home from the vet today, she searched the entire house for Murphy-for the first time in her life, she is solo. I'm not sure what to do, but time will help. I am so grateful for all of your support the last year or so. Our lives are much enriched with learning how precious every day is. Gratefully, Alice, Glenn and Rosie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy is gone.
Alice, I was very sad to read this, this morning! My heart aches for you!! I know someday I will be in that position with Gray Cat it makes me cry. Murphy was a very special kitty had someone that loved cared so well for him. I pray he is running around happy healthy up in heaven. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2010, at 11:54 PM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Murphy has passed to the bridge tonight to join Buster, Oni, Jack and Schatzi-Rosie's 4 brothers that passed last year. He was 2 1/2. Glenn and I saw in his eyes tonight that he was tired. He gave it all he had but in the end FeLV took him too.We will miss him so much-he filled the house with his incredible personality. He always ran to the door to greet everyone-he never knew a stranger. I will miss his big, poly-dactyl feet going clickity-click around the house and how he could leap up the wall and turn the light switch off and on when he chased the laser toy. Rosie will miss giving him vampire kisses-she's a tough love kinda girl and she is the last Mohican of the 6 FeLV+ kitties we began this journey with. Thanks to all of you for your kindness and caring. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy-still not eating or drinking
Alice, I have missed your previous emails. If it is anemia, can you afford a blood transfusion? Also Prednisolone works very well! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:44 PM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: He is still refusing to eat or drink on his own. I am using a little syringe to give him water and plain Pedialyte and also some watered down AD food from the vet. While I was at work today, Glenn was able to carry him to the litter box and he did pee in it (Murphy-LOL), so the plumbing is still functioning. He spends most of his time sleeping, but for a short while tonight he actually walked into the kitchen and sat down, I was able to give him his meds and some food and water with the syringe. He is still very pale and way too quiet. I gave him a Procrit shot last night with a prayer that he will bounce back, but I don't know. Hopefully he will want to eat tomorrow. In July, he was like this for 2 days, then began feeling better fairly quickly except for the sneezing and drippy nose. Got my fingers crossed and saying little purrayers all day long. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy-still not eating or drinking
We do fluids for our cats too, it also helps. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 21, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: Natalie is right. It is very important to keep him eating, too. Cats can go into liver failure if they don't eat their normal amount of food. This can happen fairly quickly. Check out the feline assisted feeding yahoo group for ideas and info. Prayers for you and Murphy. L Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 8:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy-still not eating or drinking Since fluids are so important to keep a cat from dehydrating and keeping organs functioning, an option might be about 100-150 mL of subcutaneous fluids given daily or every second day - it's easy to learn how to do yourself and saves a lot of lives in the long run! Could your vet give Murphy an injection of Vitamin C, B12 etc - could be a great booster. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Alice Flowers Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Murphy-still not eating or drinking He is still refusing to eat or drink on his own. I am using a little syringe to give him water and plain Pedialyte and also some watered down AD food from the vet. While I was at work today, Glenn was able to carry him to the litter box and he did pee in it (Murphy-LOL), so the plumbing is still functioning. He spends most of his time sleeping, but for a short while tonight he actually walked into the kitchen and sat down, I was able to give him his meds and some food and water with the syringe. He is still very pale and way too quiet. I gave him a Procrit shot last night with a prayer that he will bounce back, but I don't know. Hopefully he will want to eat tomorrow. In July, he was like this for 2 days, then began feeling better fairly quickly except for the sneezing and drippy nose. Got my fingers crossed and saying little purrayers all day long. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Add my Chloe (FELV) to the Bridge list
My heart hurts for you! My prayers are with you!! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2010, at 4:53 PM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: My Chloe died today - she's a gray and white FELV kitty, a lovely and sweet kitty. I got her in Sept 2005, from a lady in Oklahoma named Jennifer. Jennifer had been a vet tech, and had FELV cats, but when her baby developed serious problems and she needed to pass her specia needs cats on to someone else, and I took them. One by one they have passed on. Chloe was the last - she was 15 or 16, claws had grown out, and she was having some kidney problems. Fall is so dry, it seems to be hard on kidney cats. Chloe was a sweetie and had a soft and gentle passing. I kept covering her and trying to keep her hydrated and warm, but she said no mom, I don't want the cover on me. Sleep soft sweet Chloe. Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV
We use prednisolone. Our cats hematocrit was 9%. we did a blood transfusion. We also used LTCI injections and Interferon. He now tests negative, although we still battle with anemia. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:24 AM, A D unspecifie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, my cat was the picture of health about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years old, female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally bounce off the walls running around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥ Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping constantly, and one day (9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned white…instead of their normal pink. So I took her in and they took some blood…said that day that she is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got the results the following Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses the litter box (and her urine is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps almost 24 hours a day, and has lost a bit of weight (not good when she only started at 7lbs in the first place L). I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I tried to get her to drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is to help kittens build up their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics the Monday that her tests came back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the medicine. It’s a liquid and she would spit it all back out. So, she probably didn’t get all she was supposed to. When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of canned cat food. She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the kitchen (where the dry food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on her way back out of the kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m not even sure she has much muscle left. She has always been skinny, but not like this. Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started turning yellow. I know that has something to do with her liver not working right. Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is 29%-45% (or something like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help her? How will we know if she has pain? The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular vet was out for the week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and seems any better, to get her re-tested. That some cats fight it off and can test negative a couple months later. So, that means SOME cats get over this. And I read online that some cats live for a few years with it, after showing symptoms. Just gives me a little hope…then I look at her…and she looks so bad…and I think there isn’t much hope. So hard to watch. At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to sleep? I figured if she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those are), or has a seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, that it would be time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give her every chance to survive…ya know? Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can tell this is really very hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone and everyone who has to deal with it. ~Anndrea ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Rocket to the CLS 6/06 - 8/10
I am so very sorry for your loss and my thoughts and prayers go out to you! Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2010, at 1:48 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Rocket had a bad week. She had gotten another Immunoreglin shot last Monday. It didn't seem to help her at all. She just wasn't interested in eating except for a little kibble. I tried several times to syringe feed her but she got so upset. She would start panting like she couldn't catch her breath. We were to go back to the vet today. This morning she wasn't able to walk very well and was having problems breathing. So we made that final trip to the vet. Thankfully my dear neighbor drove us. Rocket normally starts with heavy breathing when we go to the vet. This morning was worse than normal. She had a small seizure as we were entering the vet's office and died there in my arms. Her little heart just gave up. I'm sure she had some type of tumor. Wasn't anemia like Sissy. She was such a good girl. Never a big love bug but enjoyed playing with the feather toy and loved her treats. Even this last week she was rubbing my leg as I was preparing the food plates. Another reason it was so heartbreaking when she wouldn't eat. Rocket is my last FeLV baby. I do feel fortunate to have had her for almost 4 yrs. I 1st met her at the dumpsters July '06. She was one of 5 kittens that would come running when I showed up with food. Spooky vanished but over time I was able to trap Rocket, Sissy, Daisy and Mae. Rocket and Sissy became house kitties. Daisy and Mae were much older when I trapped them and became garage kitties. Now Daisy's babies and these four are gone. Leaves a big hole in my heart. At least she had a good life and wasn't sick until these last few weeks. By sharing her story I am trying to celebrate her life and encourage others to love their companions each and every day. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Murphy-PCV is up to 27-28 but has a fever
Alice I am not sure of Murphy's history, but our cat ran an unexplained fever of 104 for a year. He has been on high dosages of Pred for 1.5 years. His temp is back to normal. There was never an answer for the temp. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: What the heck-we can't get well!!! His gums are looking nice and pink-his PCV in the office is up to 27-28 from 2 weeks ago. His temp was 104.7 today when it had been 101.6 the last 2 visits-7/23 and 7/29. That explains his dry, warm nose. They gave him a shot of PennG and I will repeat in 5 days at home and to keep him on all the meds like we have been the last 2 weeks. He's been on Doxycycline for 2 weeks. He is down only 2.5 oz but overall has gone from 11 lb 15 oz in November to 10 lb 2 oz today. He looks bright, but is sleeping a lot. I don't get it-what is causing the fever??? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing methods, and forms of leukemia
Our Gray Kitty had it done at UC Davis in CA. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2010, at 2:17 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: i know that it is. that wasn't my question. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: The bone marrow aspiration was suggested for confirmation of leukemia! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 2:05 PM To: FeLVTalk Subject: [Felvtalk] testing methods, and forms of leukemia just wondering how many of us here have ever had a bone-marrow aspiration suggested as a normal part of the FeLV testing protocol? here's a really good article on the different forms of leukemia and treatments--they don't mention the date on it, tho, but someone could probably find it. http://maxshouse.com/Oncology/feline_lymphoma_and_leukemias.htm -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Our Gray Kitty had it done at UC Da Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2010, at 2:17 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: i know that it is. that wasn't my question. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:05 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: The bone marrow aspiration was suggested for confirmation of leukemia! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 2:05 PM To: FeLVTalk Subject: [Felvtalk] testing methods, and forms of leukemia just wondering how many of us here have ever had a bone-marrow aspiration suggested as a normal part of the FeLV testing protocol? here's a really good article on the different forms of leukemia and treatments--they don't mention the date on it, tho, but someone could probably find it. http://maxshouse.com/Oncology/feline_lymphoma_and_leukemias.htm -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bugsy Please add the the CLS :(
My heart goes out to you!! God bless!! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: My heart is heavy yet once again.Bugsy (Bugaboo) lost his battle today.He was at the Sids sanctuary back when I started in 2005.He was a sweet quiet big black boy.But in the last few months he started to decline and was not so quite the big boy.But he had a BIG BOY appetite.Just last night I fed him almost 2 cans of friskies and some baby food.We sure did spoil him his last days with us.I will miss you my Bugaboo,so happy I got to tell him I loved him last night before I left. Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon
We paid for it at my Vets office and as we needed it, he made a batch for us and we kept it in the fridge. It wad fine. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 27, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi: I received a bottle of interferon from my vet. He told me it was a 90 day supply but it says discard after 30 days on the bottle. I know many posts have said that you draw it up into syringes and then freeze and I know it doesn't last long. I'm guessing I need to do that but my vet told me to call the compounding pharmacy that diluted it and sent it and just make sure. The bottle says Interferon Alpha 2B 60 IU/ML 45 ML give .5 ML by mouth once daily. I thought I had read most people are giving 1 ML daily or 7 on 7 off? This came from US Compounding with an address in Conway AZ. I didn't get much instruction with the bottle! So I am wondering about freezing and then do you know of any economic sites where I can buy the 1 ML syringes in a box off 100 and the syringe caps? I am also looking for empty small gelcaps. Thanks! Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vet referral and FeLV treatment
Our FeLV cat (who now tests negative), stays in his own room, which is my bedroom, cat tree, litter box and all. He is fine with it. We used LTCI with good results. Best wishes! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2010, at 1:51 PM, Fernanda Barreto fbarret...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello all: This weekend I got lost driving in an industrial part of my town. Suddenly in the middle of the street, I see a tiny kitten. Luckily I was able to avoid hitting him, as was the car behind me. I quickly got out of my car and approached the kitten. Imagine my surprise when he willingly and eagerly came running right up to me. I scooped him up and continued on my way. I noticed when I tried to feed him that something wasn't quite right. He kept falling over and seemed very uncoordinated, even for a kitten. I took him to the emergency vet where I was told that he had some kind of neurological disorder that was presenting itself in his legs. Basically he is just going to be clumsy. The vet said it could be a static problem and not get any worse or it could be progressive, at which time we would have to discuss other options. She also recommended the FeLV/FIV test. Sadly, he came up a weak positive for FeLV. The vet said this may be the cause of the neurological disorder or the two could be unrelated. Also his pupils were not well dilated (the vet did not go on to explain what effect that has). When the vet gave me the positive results, she asked if I wanted to put him to sleep. In the mere 4 hours we had spent together, this little 6 week old kitten had won my heart and I just couldn't put him to sleep. Although he is clumsy (it's actually really cute and I believe he will soon learn to compensate for it), you really don't notice the neurological impairment unless you are looking for it; and he's happy and pain-free otherwise. But of course there is a problem. I have already have a FeLV negative cat at home and I don't want to risk exposing her. I was able to take the little guy, who we named Tommy, to my boyfriend's, but my cat and I are moving in with him in 2 months, so this likely cannot be a permanent home. So this is why I have turned to this group. I would like to take the time I have to try to get Tommy in the best health I can. I did some research and found out about Mega C plus, interferon and LTCI. I would like to speak to someone in depth about these options, but my vet just doesn't have experience in this area. 1. Does anyone know a good vet that will help treat the FeLV in the Los Angeles area - preferable Glendale/Pasadena/the San Fernando valley area. 2. If I am in successful in getting him to the point where he tests negative, can he stay with my FeLV negative cat. She's older and will likely want nothing to do with him so I am not too worried about them directly interacting. But I am worried that they may share toys or bowls. 3. Does anyone know of any rescue organizations that would take on a FeLV positive kitten? My boyfriend and I already love and adore Tommy, but we understand that we must do what is best for him. It's just confusing trying to figure out what that is. I would welcome and suggestions or advise. Thank you, Fernanda _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccountocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please light a candle for Taj
My prayers are with you!! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Sara Kasteleyn skastel...@cicresearch.com wrote: Dear friends, I had hoped to avoid writing this note for a very, very long time. Our blue-eyed bengal boy Taj is napping at the bridge this afternoon. He developed breathing trouble over the weekend, and today we discovered that he had a massive tumor pressing into his lungs. Heroic measures to extend his life would have been selfish, and given the underlying FeLV+ diagnosis, unlikely to have improved his quality of life. He was a brave boy, hiding his discomfort from us for so long. He lived a very short life, only 14 months, but he was loved and pampered in the extreme. His sister, Rani, shares the FeLV+ diagnosis. We pray she will be with us much longer. My thanks to each of you for your fabulous advice and willingness to share what you have learned along this difficult and often sad path. Sara ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] interferon storage/dilution
Stacy, Our vet stored it in his refrigerator mixed a bottle for us as we needed I kept it in our refrigerator. We used both interferon and LTCI at the same time. We did not follow the standard protocol. So far he is testing negative for FeLV now. Because we have tried many different things, nobody can tell us why he now test negative. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi: My vet looked into getting interferon omega from Europe for Spanky. It turns out that it would be about $1000-$2000 and would take 6-8 weeks AND that doesn't even mean it would be shipped so that we can be sure it remains stable (it cannot be warm at all). Thus, we are going to go with interferon alpha as it is available here and a lot of you use it with good results. If that doesn't seem to do much for him, we'll add the Imulan LTCI injections with the interferon. I'm curious how those of you use interferon dilute and store it in the fridge and freezer? I know I've seen people advise how they do this on this list but I couldn't figure out a way to search the archives without going through every single message for each month. I found mini ice cube trays on the internet and wonder if there is something better (syringes frozen?) Also, how long do you wait between blood panels to see if it has helped kitty? one month? two months? Thanks so much for your help. Stacy and Spanky stacy_zac...@yahoo.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Losing weight
I do know about the expenses! My cat is at $30,000.00, but well worth it! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 27, 2010, at 11:42 AM, Ashley Vanover ashley.vano...@gmail.com wrote: Nortina, There are many charities out there that can assist with vet bills. With the economy being what it is, donations have gone down, but they may be able to help you fund treatment to keep McFluffins comfortable. Here is a link I used when my Kong first became ill to see what was out there. I hope it helps you. http://www.itchmo.com/pets-medical-bills-piling-up-380 As someone else mentioned, Interferon is always worth a shot. My vet orders it from a place in Arizona called Road Runner Pharmacy, and they ship it directly to my house. For a 3 month supply (I'm giving my kitty 1ml a day for alternating weeks), it is around $38, including the shipping. FeLV is so expensive to fight, and even if you had thousands of dollars to spend, it never guarantees a positive outcome. McFluffins appreciates what you are doing for him and how much you care about him. --Ashley ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - introduction - Chewie and Stitch
Joe, I am sorry to hear of your great loss! My Gray Kitty, who did test positive and currently test negative for FeLV, battles anemia. He has been on very high dosages of Pred for almost 2 years. This seems to keep his hematocrit in normal range. His story is a very long one someday, I will write a book on it. Our hopes is that he will set presidence for future FeLV cats give pet owners hope! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Joe Reil redshar...@yahoo.com wrote: Good evening, I don't know if anyone currently active remembers me, I first signed up for this list in April of 2007, when one cat (Chewie) was diagnosed with FELV after getting sick. I haven't been really active on here since, but I thought I'd post again with an update. My original introduction message is copied below. It is with sadness that I report that Stitch, who I mentioned originally has having been tested shortly after Chewie died has now left us, almost exactly 3 years after Chewie did. Stitch has done great these last few years, we never had any problems and had some hopes that she might have fought the virus off. Sadly, this was not the case. She started acting sick this weekend and we brought her to the vet on Tuesday. She'd lost a few pounds since her last visit, and a blood test revealed that she was very low on red blood cells, the Vet thinking that she had a bone marrow disease as she didn't seem to have any new red blood cells at all (could this be myeloproliferative leukemia, which I've seen mentioned in other places?). Given that she was FELV positive and was clearly suffering, we decided to have her put to sleep. Anyway, though I haven't been really active here, folks were very helpful after my initial post and the info and support I did get here were instrumental in keeping Stich as healthy as she was for as long as she was. It's still really hard, but I know that we did everything that we could for her. She was a very special kitty, and she'll be greatly missed. These are direct links to photos I have stored on my Facebook stage, I'm not sure if they'll work like this, but we shall see. These are both very recent photos of Stitch: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs417.snc3/25118_384112819913_539489913_3684055_4308847_n.jpg http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs437.snc3/25118_384111604913_539489913_3684051_7341747_n.jpg Thanks, Joe Reil redshar...@yahoo.com _ Howdy all, This is my first post to this list, thought I'd do a bit of intro. We had three cats in our family. The older two were both castaways that were adopted as adults. Zoro was the oldest and I adopted him from a co-worker when I lived by myself. He died several years ago. The remaining two were Stitch and Chewie. Chewie was the next oldest. She had a really hard start to life, she was originally found, as a stray by some friends of ours. She was probably two or three at the time and she had evidence of being abused - she had some suspicious scars on her underside. She lived with them for a while, very shy/nervous and eventually came out of her shell. A couple years later, they had to move, and couldn't take her with them so we took her in. We had her for several years as well and while we don't know her exact age, best estimate put her at 8-10 years old when she died last month. She had a loss of appetite and started losing weight. She had two trips to the Vet - after the first visit she took a serious turn for the worse so we had her back at the vet only a few days later. A blood test on the second visit revealed that she had FelV. So, considering she was very sick and was suffering from a pretty serious disease we opted to put her to sleep then. :( I didn't know much about FelV then (and I'm still learning about it), but information from both our Vet and online resources I found indicated that it was contagious so we decided to have our third (and youngest) cat tested for it. Stitch is the only one we got as a Kitten and she's about 3.5 years old. I brought her to the vet this weekend and she tested positive for FelV. :( I do intend to learn as much as I can about the disease so we can keep her with us as long as possible. I know that it will eventually catch up to her and our main thing will be to put that off as long as possible. She's still young and healthy so hopefully that'll be a long time still. :) We had been planning to get a second cat, but we've put that plan on hold now. I know it is possible to inoculate against FelV, but given that the vaccine takes a while to take effect, we'd either have to quarantine the new cat until the vaccine took effect or find it someplace else to live for a month or so, and on top of all that I don't think we want to put Stitch through the stress of another housemate at the moment (she doesn't react well to strangers). Thanks, Joe
Re: [Felvtalk] Goodbye sweet Casper
I am so very sorry!!! You are in my heart prayers!!! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget has sent me another cat
That is AWESOME!! That gives me chills! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 20, 2010, at 4:25 PM, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: First, thank you everyone for all your kindness and support over Bridget's passing. I appreciate it so much. But she's sent me another FeLV+ friend to help! On the evening of 3/17, the day she died, I checked the adoptable positives section of the website. Lo and behold, someone in GA had posted an available kitty just the day before. I never, ever check those postings, ever, but I figured the best way to honor Bridget, Baby Girl, Frosty Paws and the rest would be to take in another needy baby. These kind people had found this little girl in their neighborhood, but couldn't keep her due to the wife's allergies. They'd been boarding her at their vet's office for 5 weeks but hadn't been able to find her a home. Anyway, they brought me the cat yesterday, and she's just wonderful...still a little nervous around my big boys, but she'll be fine. Maybe this was meant to be. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?
Amy, Never give up and try everything you can. We were told our cat had 2 weeks to live that was 1.5 years ago! He is FeLV negative now, however we deal with the anemia. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Belinda, I do know Bailey's story well and honestly you are one of the only stories I've heard with positive results (not to say there aren't a lot more good ones out there, that's why I'm asking). Your story keeps me wondering if I should try it despite the warnings. I'm so glad you had these results with Epogen. I actually had the vet research WHY it could possibly help a leuk positive cat because of your story. I can't find one vet that can explain why it could possibly help since a leuk positive cat is normally making erythropoietin just fine on it's own. That's not to say it has never helped. She has heard of cases but said there is no biological/medical reason it should help . Does anybody know how or why it might help a cat with nonregenerative anemia? I just want to say that the vet that told me this is most likely not flat out lying. She is a highly recommended internal med from Cornell University. She has been absolutely wonderful and has researched everything I've asked her about extensively. When I asked her about Epogen she didn't have to research it because she did have experience with it, with cats with CRF and cats without. I did A LOT of searching of all the medical facilities within hundreds of miles to find a specialist that actually deals with leukemia and treats cats with it regularly. Many vets in my area have never even seen a positive cat other than the ones they euthanize. I've lost one cat after another to leukemia and despite trying one thing after another, have never been able to bring one back from nonregenerative anemia. My cat that is currently being treated by Cornell is stable and holding his own 6 months after being diagnosed. I don't believe that would be the case without her help. I totally understand people on here feeling that most vets know nothing about leukemia but I just wanted to say that I spent A LOT of time and effort trying to locate a vet that would do the best possible job for this cat and it stings a bit to hear somebody say she is flat out lying to me or doesn't know how to use Epogen. Anyways, I don't post on here a lot and was nervous about saying anything about my fears of Epogen because I thought it might ruffle some feathers. I just couldn't at least throw it out there because I personally would feel awful if I did something to speed up how quickly this disease can take down a positive cat. I really think each person needs to do what they are comfortable with and I just wanted to throw out what I heard on the off chance it is accurate. I'd love to hear from others that have tried Epogen too. Amy --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com wrote: From: Belinda Sauro ma...@bemikitties.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron? To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 12:58 AM Amy, This vet is either flat out lying or isn't using it correctly. It is very rare but a cat can have a reaction and that reaction is that it wouldn't help and the HCT would continue to go down, in some cases this is because the dose isn't high enough, a few kitties need higher than the standard dose. But of course the vets freak out and assume the cat is having a reaction. So many vets are terrified of this drug and it doesn't make sense, basically if it isn't working you would be right back where you started. It is documented that about 10% to 30% of cats would fall into this category and of those it takes 5 months or longer of use for this to happen. I know many, many people who have used it and only know of one cat that is was suspected had this happen and I honestly don't think that was the problem, I think that cat wasn't getting a high enough dose. Most of these cats are CRF but a few aren't and were anemic because of cancer or something else. I've told Bailey's story more than once, he was positive, he became anemic and once his HCT got to 20%, I decided to try epogen, I think he was barely regenerative but honestly it has been so long I can't remember. He did not have kidney disease. By the time we got the epogen in it took a few days, he had gone to 18% and once we started it went down to 15%, it took about 6 weeks to get his HCT to 40% which is a little quicker than you would like but he was fine and his HCT was still normal at 33%, 34% 5 months later when he died of pancreatic cancer. You do have to monitor the blood pressure because it can go high, Bailey's did the opposite and got low but we had no problems with the epogen. My vet has used it several times with FeLV+ cats and had luck with it. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ...
Re: [Felvtalk] Bridget is dead
I am so sorry Laura!!! I highly doubt it was the LTCI. You are in my prayers? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 17, 2010, at 1:45 PM, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: Bridget is dead. I had her spayed today and apparently she died very quickly under anesthesia. She was my baby. I would have done anything for her and now she's dead. It has been a miserable few weeks with Frosty Paws and then Baby Girl but this has broken my heart. She was doing so well. Could it have been the LTCI? I have to know whether I'm responsible for killing her. Please, if anyone knows whether the LTCI could have had something to do with it, maybe made her more sensitive to being put under, please let me know, I have to know whether I killed my cat. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?
When gray cat was first diagnosed his hct was at 9. He is currently on a very high dose of Pred a chemo drug called Chlorambucil. We are getting ready to take him off the chemo drug start cyclosporin once again try to slowly reduce his pred. We did interferon LTCI injections. He test negative now for FeLV. There is always a 3-4 week lag time before you start to see the increase in the Hematocrit with Pred. We have been going through this since Sept. 2008. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 13, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Frank Sue Koren fs...@roadrunner.com wrote: Hello all; Casper is my symptomatic cat that became positive because I mixed my positives and negatives. I wondered if somehow I had missed his vaccinataion last year. I asked the vet to double check and as I thought he was not even due for his next vaccination until April. Anyway, he is now anemic and we are trying to deal with that. He has been getting Prednosolone and Doxycycline for about a week and a half without improvement. His count was 19 when he was tested two weeks ago. I took him today for a PCV and don't have the results yet. He also got an iron shot. I asked about Epogen. My vet calls it Arithro proeatin (I know I botched the spelling of that.) He is also looking into Interferon. Has anyone had experience with these with an anemic positive cat? Now that my decision to mix has make Casper become positive I want to do whatever I can for him. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Epogen? Interfuron?
Thankfully, my Gray Kitty, has been negative for over 7-8 months now. All specialists have said we can now stop testing him monthly. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2010, at 4:23 PM, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: sue, was casper ever double tested to make sure he was actually negative? a single negative test means no more than a single positive test does: unless we know for sure when the last possible date of exposure was, and do a final test 90-120 days after that, we cannot know that any cat is truly negative. this is how my cats all become exposed back in 2000--my housemate, the shelter director, brought in a beautiful little girl who'd tested negative. we didn't know to retest back then, and didn't. she became symptomatic less than a year later. as far as i know, there are no cases of an actually negative cat (tested twice) who has been vaccinated ever becoming positive from living with positives. don't blame yourself for something that you probably DIDN'T do. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Baby Girl has passed
I am very sorry for your loss! It is heartbreaking! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 12, 2010, at 5:28 PM, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote: Baby Girl died tonight around 7:30. It feels so strange to write that; I've had her for two years, she's been symptom-free for two yearsand then it happened. She declined quickly. I knew she was not going to make it, so we had a vet appointment for tomorrow morning for her to be PTS. Even a couple of days ago she was purring a bit and looking for chin scratches and head rubs, but by the time I left for work this morning I think she hardly knew I was there. When I arrived home this evening she was lying on her side, barely breathing. I held her on my lap for about 45 minutes, just waiting, then she shuddered, my lights flickered and she was gone. She will join Duncan, Charlotte, Chutney and Frosty Paws at the bridge. Now Celery is the last remaining cat of my original FeLV group. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Hair Loss
My Gray Kitty has had some hair loss too, however, his is due to his Prednisolone. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: Demodex mite is a possibility. Is he real itchy? The clumps and itching are what Coco had. It's hard to find the mites as they are very small. They can apparently live on the animal and if their immune system is compromised the mite can start affecting them. Coco was on steroids and that shut down her immune system and then we had the mite problem. She had to have lyme baths. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Carol Tsai Begnoche Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 10:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Hair Loss Hi all. My 1 year old FeLV+ male cat has started to have some hair loss on his head and neck. I noticed a bit of a bald spot on his neck a few days ago with a small scratch (he plays rough with his brother). I didn't think anything of it as I thought maybe he just scratched the hair off. Then I noticed that the top of his head had some balding spot. This evening I noticed an entire clump of hair missing on top of his head. I haven't seen him scratch or act any differently. He still lets me pet him. I haven't changed his diet or environment. He seems to be eating normally and drinking too. I'm at a loss. I plan to call my vet and take him in if this doesn't improve in the next couple days. Any ideas on what this could be? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lyttle Guy passed away
I am SO sorry James!!! My prayers are with you!! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2010, at 2:37 AM, James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net wrote: Lyttle Guy passed away in my arms at 4:18am this morning. He had series of seizures and then gasped his last breath. He was truly loved and shall be dearly missed James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia! to Hotmail Junk!!!
It sure is!! We don't live to far from American River College. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: OK-I didn't realize that we are in the same area!! How crazy is that? I live in Rio Linda (Sacramento County) with my kitties, horses and antique Aussies (all over 10 yrs old). Citrus Heights is within 15-20 minutes away. Small World! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Help - I can't get LTCI in Georgia!
Mine is Akaal Pet Hospital in Citrus Heights. They ordered it for my cat all the time! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 11, 2009, at 10:28 AM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I am shocked that your vet cannot order it. It's not even a drug per se. Perhaps your vet can contact another vet that can order it? My vet is the Sacramento Cat Hospital and if you google it, they have a website with all their contact info. As I type this, Rosie has Murphy in a headlock and is trying to bite his eyehe has these huge persian-like eyeballs and fluffy hair-she is a sleek tabby from a feral colony and loves to terrorize him these days even though she's half his size. I believe they'd both be dead if we hadn't begun the Imulan before they began crashing like Rosie's 4 brothers did. (The 4 brothers didn't see their 1st birthday.) These two have so much energy-galloping up and down the hall-one minute she's chasing him and then when they reverse directions-he's chasing her! I absolutely love it-not a sneeze or a sniffle since Sept, when they were constantly sick before the treatments. Rosie is 16 months old, Murphy just a few months more. I am only giving the subq injection every 6 weeks now. (It was once a week for 4 weeks in the beginning, then 2 weeks, 4 weeks etc). If I didn't have the Imulan, I have been reading alot of great things about the IV vitamin C therapy-I just read an article that said it cured a bad case of H1N1 in a human-but I didn't try to verify it-there is alot of information out there on the IV vitamin C- I do believe it is worth checking into. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Just got FIV+ diagnosis
Has he had a CBC? He may need a transfusion if his hematocrit is too low. Using Prednisolone may help boost that as well. Talk to your Vet. My vet has gained experience with our cat I can supply his name number via email. Your Vet is welcome to comsult with him. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Natasha Hinsbeeck n.hinsbe...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi there! I've just subscribed to Felvtalk, and I'm not at all sure how this system works, so please forgive me if I mess it up. I've been through a rough time with my kitty lately. His name is Ben, and he's about 5 months old. He developed toxoplasmosis on Saturday (28/11/09), and initially responded well to treatment, we caught it in an early stage. Yesterday his condition started deteriorating, which is when my vet suggested we test him for FIV/FeLV, and my baby tested positive for FIV. The vet thinks he probably has FeLV as well, because of his age, he might not have enough antibody response to the FeLV yet. I lost a cat in June who only had FeLV, not FIV, and we lost him in the space of 24 hours after the diagnosis was made. I dont know enough aboout this subject, and I'm struggeling to get the answers I need to my questions. I was wondering - I've been blogging about this on the dailykitten website, could I paste all that info here? I'm going to start crying again if I have to repeat all that information again? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon And Other Medicine Questions
I had my cat on Interferon, LTCI, and Pred. He was given the death sentence by a University Vet, sent home to die. That was over a year ago. He is now FeLV negative, which we were told it was in his bone marrow. We are working on research and trials of different meds for anemia. The high dosage of pred is not a permenant solution. We have spent over $20,000 so far, but it has been worth every penny!! We have hope that through our research the help of specialists, we can help other cats with this dreaded disease! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Ashley Vanover ashley.vano...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Crystal, I just started my cat on Interferon a few weeks ago. He is in the last stages of FeLV (it's in his bone marrow and he has non regenerative anemia), and I think I've seen some improvements in him. Nothing dramatic, but if it can help a cat that was given less than 3 weeks to live, it might very well help your kitten. My vet ordered mine from Road Runner pharmacy in Arizona. I think it was around $37 for what I *think* was 30ml (I can check tonight when I get home). The $37 included shipping (it was overnighted and packed in ice) and the pharmacy even threw in some cat toys, which I thought was very sweet. My program for Kong is 1ml per day for seven days, and then off seven days. So the bottle, while not exactly cheap, will last for a while. Good luck, Ashley ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon And Other Medicine Questions
There has been no rhyme or reason as to why Gray Kitty has been through so much. He is such a fighter! We hope to use any succesful treatment we find, to share and educate. We work on the anemia right now and am going to try a new drug that has less side effects than the current high dosage of Pred he is on. Feel free to contact me anytime! Keep me updated on how your baby is doing! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Ashley Vanover ashley.vano...@gmail.com wrote: I would be grateful for any more information you could provide as your cat's situation sounds so much like my little Kong's. Bless you for being willing to spend so much money on searching for treatment. It is people like you who are going to make a difference and help us all find new and successful treatments for our babies. --Ashley ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon And Other Medicine Questions
Gary, At the moment all our data and graphing is on excel spreadsheets that we email weekly to the specialist I Michigan. Between he and our family vet, we adjust the pred dosage. We are currently reviewing some new meds with less side effects, for his anemia. He was on the interferon, one week on, one week off for many months, as well as weekly LTCI injections for many months. We did not follow the standard protocol. it has been about 3-4 months that he has been negative and is only on pred at the moment. We test him monthly for FeLV now. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 29, 2009, at 9:30 AM, Gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: Do you have a website or something detailing your research, testing data, etc.? What trials for anemia are you involved with? Is your cat on any medications now? Was your cat on Interferon alpha or FOI? If on alpha, was he at the usual 30 unit dosage? How many LTCI shots did he have before turning negative? Thanks, Gary Hotmail Junk wrote: I had my cat on Interferon, LTCI, and Pred. He was given the death sentence by a University Vet, sent home to die. That was over a year ago. He is now FeLV negative, which we were told it was in his bone marrow. We are working on research and trials of different meds for anemia. The high dosage of pred is not a permenant solution. We have spent over $20,000 so far, but it has been worth every penny!! We have hope that through our research the help of specialists, we can help other cats with this dreaded disease! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 24, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Ashley Vanover ashley.vano...@gmail.com wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interferon
I agree Jane!! We as pet owners are going above and beyond to HELP our pets!! If it was not for our vet and the specialist, gray cat would not be now testing NEGATIVE for FeLV! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com wrote: Lorrie wrote: Thank you for asking people in the group to look into their hearts to see if these treatments are for the cat or for themselves because they want to keep the cat alive no matter what it has to endure. This is an unkind and sanctimonious remark, Lorrie. I hope you are kinder to the cats you care for. Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Whoo Hooo!! CBCs are in-Rosie and Murphy
WONDERFUL! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Our vet just called-the blood tests results from this morning are back and they are both improving! Rosie's platelets are in the normal range too! She said there is a buzz in the office and they have been telling their other patients about this product and how it appears promising. We will retest in 2 weeks and will be cutting down from once weekly injections. This one tonight will only be the 3rd one. We are following the manufacturer's protocol to be sure it is effective. We did not wait for them to crash before starting the treatments, hoping to get months, not weeks-but it is looking better than that, but I am afraid to hope for too much-I am grateful for every healthy appearing day. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
What are the side effects? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2009, at 11:02 AM, Second Chance Meows secondchanceme...@yahoo.com wrote: I run a FeLV sanctuary here in the states and have found that the best treatment is love and attention. Having spent almost a year on interferon, I know the side effects of it very well, and would not wish them on any living being.( human or feline). spend time with them, show them that you really care about them when no one else did. Let them spend hours in your lap, sleep on the bed, sun in the window just as any other healthy cat would do. just so you know Esther, my oldest cat here is about 16 and has had FeLV since birth, the rest are all about 3-6 yrs old and doing well Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Esther Jorda estherjo...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:45:27 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? I am new to this group. I live in Spain and have some language difficults, so, sorry for the faults. I am an active member of a cat rescue group. In july I found a kitten in the street with the eyes seriously dammaged. We went to the vet and all was well, excep the positive result to FelV. A friend on mine is fostering her. She seems to be healthy and hapy. I want to give her an opportunity to live with good QOL as long as possible. Unfortunately most vets does not share my opinion, and they think it is not worth. I insist... I read all I can find. I am giving Xana L-Lysina (for her eye condicion) Vetinmune (as inmunomodulator) And I insist to put her on interferon. The vet said that -in that subclinic stadium- the alfa (humane) interferon is the election treatment. When symtoms appear, then it will be the moment to give the omega interferon... My questions are: 1) HAVE ANYONE EXPERIENCE IN THE USE OF FELINE OMEGA INTERFERON WITH ASYMPTOMATIC CATS?? I know it can not clear the virus, but ... Can it to prevent the development of any of the illness related with FelV?? 2) About propiobacterium acnes. I cant find it in Spain. The laboratory does not produce it anymore, and change it for a new product: Corynebacterium parvum (inmufort complex (R). It is used for cows. A colegue (that has a FelV shelter) wrote me to advice she is using it in her 8 FelV+ cats... she said is working well... her oldest cat is now 8 years old. 3) Xana has also chronic diarrhea, in spite I put her on intestinal diet, does no make solid faeces... Any other non invasive tratment can be usefull??? Thanks for your atention Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI article in Cat Fancy
I too am waiting for my copy Sent from my iPhone On Sep 21, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: I just got my copy today. Have not read it. L -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Frank Sue Koren Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 6:06 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] LTCI article in Cat Fancy Hello everyone, Has anybody else seen the article in this months Cat Fancy about Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator? Although the article does not go into any detail or get at all scientific, it seems that it might give this stuff some credibility. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie
I wish you the best! My cat uses the same medication has tested negative for leukemia for the last few months. We have no idea if it is the injections or what. He is also on Prednisolone has bi-weekly blood test to check levels. We just take one day at a time. Hang in there! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Fingers and paws crossed that the shots help. Sharyl --- On Sat, 9/19/09, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net Subject: [Felvtalk] First Doses of Imulan For Murphy Rosie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, September 19, 2009, 3:11 AM We have our fingers crossed!! We arrived at our vet's office right after the shipment arrived. Rosie and Murphy had their exams and blood drawn for baselines-CBCs and their 3rd FeLV tests. We have previous tests from June 3rd this year also. Those tests showed that Murphy's levels were changing (similar to Schatzi's who just passed less than a month ago). We are really concerned for our last 2 cats because Rosie (tabby) is the only female of the litter of 5-her 4 brothers have passed away in the last 5 months from severe anemia. She has just turned a year old last month-she insists on a game of fetch several times a day with her lamb's wool mouse. (she has plucked most of the wool off and I can't find another one.) Murphy is a semi long haired, polydactyl, tuxedo boy with 7 toes on each front foot and a spare on each hind foot-He was dumped into the feral colony that Rosie and her brothers came from. He is the sweetest boy, so playful and just wants to hang out with you-he follows you around like a dog. He looks like he has Ov-Gloves on! Anyway-this disease seems like a switch is flipped on and there is nothing we can do to save them-we are hoping that using this product before the symptoms of anemia appear will give us some chance of them surviving for a long time. Maybe by taking a proactive approach we will be able to turn the odds a little. We are beginning with one injection a week for a month, then every two weeks...to once a month. Blood will be drawn every two weeks at first. We had the first injections at the vet's office today (the tech did Murphy's and she watched while I gave Rosie's). I will be giving the remaining 8 doses at home to save costs. We'll have the blood test results back Monday. Say a little prayer for us. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan and Autumn update
Along with LTCI, we also use Prednisolne. Our cats HCT stays within normal limits, from 9% to 42% Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2009, at 8:24 AM, jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: Hello everyone, I wanted to give you an update on Autumn and the TCLI injection (Imulan). When I brought her to the emergency center last Tuesday, she was starting with respiratory distress and crying out. Her hematocrit was 4%. She was on her way out. She got the transfusion - they called me about 1/4 of the way through and told me they didn't think she'd make it. She did. Since she's been home, each day her energy is improving. I got the second injection of TCLI and administered it on Saturday. Everyday she's looking better. She's sitting up, walking and drinking independently. This may only be the effects of the transfusion, so I am holding off judgement for now. I will be getting a CBC this week to see what we're dealing with. In the meantime, I am praying, and have her on Ambrotrose (a glycoprotein supplement thought to help in the fight against felv), vitamin supplements and intermittently transfer factor. She hemolyzed (destroyed) many of the red blood cells after the transfusion as she turned yellow (jaundice - secondary to breakdown of hemoglobin) but clinically her energy is improving and her alertness returning. I will keep you updated. I pray that there is hope in this injection. It seems to me that the science is pretty sound. Most vets aren't aware of this product and have a lot of suspicion surrounding any treatment to felv+. It is reasonable since their vet school training told them it was a fatal and untreatable disease. Most of us have experienced that first hand. I had to search long and hard to find a vet that could help me, but if you call Imulan directly they are happy to talk with you or your vet. I have nothing but good experiences with them so far. We shall see, good luck everyone. Jenny On 8/30/09, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: After hearing about this product-I called our vet here in Sacramento and she agreed to order it for us. I want to try it because we lost the 4th kitty this morning-my son drove him to UC Davis emergency early this morning because he was struggling to breath and crying out. Out of the 5 kittens in the litter-Schatzi is the 4th brother to pass in 41/2 months-he just turned a year old this month- we even tried a transfusion that Jack had a reaction to and was euthanized (over $1500). Buster, the first to die-screamed out...Oni died in Corey's arms. I still have the sister, Rosie and another cat-Murphy, the tuxedo polydactyl that was dumped into the feral colony that the litter came from-he was positive also. So why do I want to try this product? I have HOPE that it may prolong Rosie and Murphy's lives- These 6 have been on antibiotics most of their lives-Finally now it's been a good month and a half without them, maybe we've turned a corner. We have upped them to Interferon 2x a day. When the FeLV switch gets tripped-they just crash so fast. If we can postpone it for months or years.that's great. We are down to 2 cats left out of 6-we have cried rivers of tears, and spent over 6 grand-and we weren't cat people a year ago. How do we know it will work? We don'tbut if we don't try, no one will know. What I do know is that Rosie is due to die soon-being from the same litter, she is due to crash with anemia like all her brothers. But I have HOPE, otherwise I should just euthanize the last 2 now and call it a day. Rosie and Murphy are racing up and down the hallway and up the cat trees right now-they are healthy (appearing), loving and happy. They are a year old-I think they deserve to live longer. Alice, Rosie and Murphy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan
Jane, Contact me at cstet...@hotmail.com, I will share my vets info. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com wrote: This is the third time, in the two plus years that I have been on this list, that people have come on to talk about the benefit and promise of Imulan. Each time this has happened I have asked my vet, then a friends vet, and then just last week I went back to my original vet with the information that was posted here. Each time I have been told, emphatically that ( to quote MC ) the science is not there. My vet has called Imulan twice and each time she has been turned off by the lack of, to quote her 'transparency' and clinical data. If anyone who is using Imulan has a vet that my vet can talk to I would appreciate the information. Thanks Jane On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:11 PM, MaryChristine wrote: . promising is the word, in fact, it's the same word that the dept of agriculture uses. LCTI has been around for years before imulan bought it, and it's been promising for all that time. i think it'd be GREAT if it works, but when you have something that's not proven, you don't run out and put it on the open market priced and promoted as if it were proven. that's my objection: it's too early, the science isn't there, and if they REALLY thought they had the answer to the FeLV problem, they'd be doing major clinical trials that every scientist in the country could believe in. and people don't have to pay to be in clinical trials, nor do they have to pay for the testing involved to see how things are going. think how many FeLV parents would willingly partake in actual clinical trials if they weren't priced out of the option--and then imulan could get real data. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Imulan
We have been using it for a while with good luck. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: Would be interesting to hear from folks who have used Imulan - Gloria On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Jane Lyons wrote: This is the third time, in the two plus years that I have been on this list, that people have come on to talk about the benefit and promise of Imulan. Each time this has happened I have asked my vet, then a friends vet, and then just last week I went back to my original vet with the information that was posted here. Each time I have been told, emphatically that ( to quote MC ) the science is not there. My vet has called Imulan twice and each time she has been turned off by the lack of, to quote her 'transparency' and clinical data. If anyone who is using Imulan has a vet that my vet can talk to I would appreciate the information. Thanks Jane On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:11 PM, MaryChristine wrote: . promising is the word, in fact, it's the same word that the dept of agriculture uses. LCTI has been around for years before imulan bought it, and it's been promising for all that time. i think it'd be GREAT if it works, but when you have something that's not proven, you don't run out and put it on the open market priced and promoted as if it were proven. that's my objection: it's too early, the science isn't there, and if they REALLY thought they had the answer to the FeLV problem, they'd be doing major clinical trials that every scientist in the country could believe in. and people don't have to pay to be in clinical trials, nor do they have to pay for the testing involved to see how things are going. think how many FeLV parents would willingly partake in actual clinical trials if they weren't priced out of the option--and then imulan could get real data. MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
