Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 63, Issue 5
Jason what may have happened to you is your cat could have had feline leukemia and then apparently beat it like a lot of cats do when they’re very young and their immune system overpowers it but sometimes it gets depressed and it stays in the body but it’s not active until when they’re older and something triggers it becomes apparent again. That might be what happened On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 1:43 PM wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with FeLV.. (JASON VOGT) >2. Re: My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with FeLV.. > (Amani Oakley) >3. Re: My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with FeLV.. > (Christi Anna) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 15:26:40 + (UTC) > From: JASON VOGT > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Subject: [Felvtalk] My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with > FeLV.. > Message-ID: <757473990.640373.1641137200...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thank you very much for your detailed response Amani.? You obviously have > a lot of experience treating both FeLV+ cats and kittens.? He (Kitty) will > be 12 years old this coming Spring or Summer.? Thank you also Kat.? I > remember taking him (Kitty) in from outside when he was one year old.? I am > positive the Vet. did a FeLV test on him then and it was negative at one > year old.? It surprised me him (Kitty) being diagnosed this old with FeLV.?? > I had an 11.50 year old cat (Mork - indoor only who I got from a shelter > as a kitten) who died in 2014 of FIP (also diagnosed with it very late at > age 11).? I am not sure how these 2 older cats of mine contracted these > diseases and how Mork died from it late in life.? Does an older cat's > immune system get much weaker as they age??? > The 11.50 female? indoor only cat (Snow White) appears just fine.? I took > her in from outside the same time as Kitty at one year old.? She tested > negative for FeLV at one year old also.? ? > Thank you very much again,? > Jason > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20220102/012b3f9b/attachment-0001.html > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 20:06:27 + > From: Amani Oakley > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with > FeLV.. > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > No problem, Jason. Please let us know how things work out. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk On Behalf Of JASON > VOGT > Sent: January 2, 2022 10:27 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with FeLV.. > > Thank you very much for your detailed response Amani. You obviously have > a lot of experience treating both FeLV+ cats and kittens. He (Kitty) will > be 12 years old this coming Spring or Summer. Thank you also Kat. I > remember taking him (Kitty) in from outside when he was one year old. I am > positive the Vet. did a FeLV test on him then and it was negative at one > year old. It surprised me him (Kitty) being diagnosed this old with FeLV. > > I had an 11.50 year old cat (Mork - indoor only who I got from a shelter > as a kitten) who died in 2014 of FIP (also diagnosed with it very late at > age 11). I am not sure how these 2 older cats of mine contracted these > diseases and how Mork died from it late in life. Does an older cat's > immune system get much weaker as they age? > > The 11.50 female indoor only cat (Snow White) appears just fine. I took > her in from outside the same time as Kitty at one year old. She tested > negative for FeLV at one year old also. > > Thank you very much again, > > Jason > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20220102/ec4894c9/attachment-0001.html > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2022 16:43:09 -0500 > From: Christi Anna > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 11.50 year old cat Kitty diagnosed with > FeLV.. > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > what is this? > why is this coming
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 63, Issue 2
Don’t give up! Like the other poster said LTC I works in many cases and Winstrol works for a lot of people. Myself I didn’t use any of those and I was prepared for the worst but now almost 12 years later I have a cat who is not FLV positive anymore. At 8 1/2 years old suddenly she flipped. I don’t know why it’s a miracle but don’t give up. And don’t let any vet tell you to put your kitty down. Fight until the end and hopefully the end will come much much later than you think. Good luck and blessings be on counting to you and yours and your kitty Kat On Sat, Jan 1, 2022 at 1:09 PM wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat was diagnosed > with FeLV (Amani Oakley) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2022 21:08:57 + > From: Amani Oakley > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 11 and 1/2 year old indoor only male cat > was diagnosed with FeLV > Message-ID: <08b17163ffa44e33abaadcaf68d1101e@OAKSERVER.oakley.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Jason, if your baby is only ? a year old, he may have been born with it or > had it before you took him in. > > I have written many times on this chatline about my own success with > Zander, my baby who had FeLV and we were told there was no hope and to just > put him down. > > What worked for us was Winstrol (Stanozolol), an anabolic steroid ? the > ?Ben Johnson steroid?. Unfortunately, because many many athletes use > Stanozolol to improve their performance and to heal injuries faster, the > scientific community has labeled this steroid as ?evil?, and stupidly > ignore it and will not use it on either humans or animals. It used to be > regularly given to cats, because cats in particular, really respond well to > it. There was a really poorly-researched vet paper years ago, which > suggested Winstrol causes liver failure in cats, so vets just abruptly > stopped using it. In my case, after trying EVERYTHING including interferon > and LCTI. We tried each for 4 to 6 months, while monitoring blood work > every week. There was no change or improvement in red cell count, > haematocrit, reticulocytes, etc. Here is my original post on this chatline, > from 2015, and I have repeated this advice many times over the years. > Several people have reported success using ?Zander?s protocol? which > I describe below: > > > I had a cat with leukemia as a kitten, and he lived to the age of 7 and > died from something else that I don?t believe was related to the leukemia. > When the vets told me that they could do nothing for him as a kitten dying > with leukemia (and he WAS dying - his red cells were dropping down to > nothing and I had given him TWO blood transfusions that weren't holding up > his numbers to any great degree) then as a last ditch effort, I tried some > Winstrol I had in the cupboard that a previous vet had given to me for > another cat. > > > This medication turned him completely around. To monitor his condition, we > were performing weekly blood tests on him - CBC, liver function, etc. After > being put on the Winstrol, his red cells and white cell counts began to > climb very quickly and steadily. It was totally amazing and the vets > couldn't believe the lab results either. My beautiful little boy was out of > the woods in about six months. We were obsessively checking the pinkness of > his ears, gums and pads to check the status of his profound anemia, and to > our unbelievable joy, he began to get pink and his lab results just kept > getting better. After about a year, I called back the internal medicine > veterinarian we had seen, and who had told us there was no hope, and told > him of our beautiful cat's recovery. To my surprise - and a little bit of > anger - he said that I had gone "old school" and that Winstrol used to be > used but then there were rumours of possible liver damage associated with > it, and vets stopped prescribing it. T > his REALLY annoyed me. My cat was dying and no one thought that maybe, > just maybe, some treatment - even with a potential side effect - was better > than no treatment??? In our experience, on a few occasions the liver > enzymes would indeed rise, but would drop back down to normal fairly > quickly after a short break from the Winstrol. We monitored our beautiful > Zander very closely during and
Re: [Felvtalk] pregnant FeLV cat
PLEASE have the abort the kittens. We have our vets here for the FCC terminate cats pregnancies up until the time of birth, sometimes. And if you have watched many kittens die of FeLV, like I have,you wouldnt wish that on them. Not Only born to die,but a terrible death that is unnecessary.I realize I am not replying in a timely manner, and I hope it is not too late, but please, do the right thing by these kittens.Also, in terms of Momma's Stress, no doubt about it, kitten birth, nursing, the stress involved,and watching her own kittens die one by one. Please terminate this pregnancy. *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.* * Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector* On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 10:00 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Pregnant FeLV cat (judith cook) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 03:31:36 + (UTC) From: judith cook jmasse...@yahoo.com To: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pregnant FeLV cat Message-ID: 560642934.154540.1421206296031.javamail.ya...@jws10613.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I don't know how far along. ?Just got this kitty right after Christmas. ?The vet can feel her kittens, though, so I guess it's not just the beginning. ?The vet is trying to get some information also - she is concerned about this cat, even though the cat is healthy right now. ?If you can tell me anything, or what most vets do, etc. ?it would be great. ?This is a darling kitty (aren't they all?)Judy? On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:06 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: How far along ? -Original Message- From: Judith Massello jmasse...@yahoo.com Sent: Jan 12, 2015 10:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Pregnant FeLV cat Does anyone know if it is better (less stressful) for a pregnant FeLV cat to carry her kittens to term or is it better to have the kittens aborted and the mother cat spayed? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20150114/f2de34d3/attachment-0001.html -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 10, Issue 4 *** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Stinky Lancelot is gone
Thank you On Sunday, December 28, 2014, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I HAV GONE THROUGH THE BLAMING MYSELF TOO. YOU CANNOT BLAME YOURSELF FOR DOING ONLY WHAT YOU KNEW TO DO. iT WILL NOT HELP lANCELOT, BUT YOU HAVE LEARNED WHAT NOT TO DO AND WHAT TO DO. THE NEXT BABIES THAT COME INTO YOUR HANDS WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS LESSON LEARNED. EACH TIME WE GO THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WE LEARN AND FUTURE CATS WILL BENEFIT FROM THAT KNOWLEDGE. YOU KNOW AT LEAST, THAT HE IS NOW AT PEACE AND OUT OF PAIN. DON'T BEAT YOURSELF UP TOO MUCH. IT DOESN'T HELP. I KNOW, BEEN THERE, DONE THAT. WILL KEEP YOU IN MY PRAYERS AND YOUR SON. Kat Parker korruptaki...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: *Once upon a time, almost 4 years ago, I was fostering for a group, which incidentally had major problems later, called Guardian Angels. I was also indie fostering myself, for cats from Downey high kill shelter in LA. I had recently pulled a mama with 3 babies that had raging URI, newborn kittens with pneumonia, and sadly lost two, though through the magic of the nebulizer, one kitten, Kiwi, and Mama Goldie were saved. Mama was despondent for her babies gone, and Guardian Angels brought me two babies, different litters. One, Angelina Jolie, was one day old. The other, who we named Mimi, was one week old. The woman who brought them to me said I should put them with Goldie to see if she would accept them I did. Now, I am a very experienced bottle feeder, and I could have bottle fed them both, and I did supplementally bottle feed them, but Goldie was so happy, and cared for the babies all so well, and it was quite a sight those three all nursing. I will NEVER AGAIN place untested babies on an unrelated nursing mom, again. Never. As you can guess, one of the babies was FeLV+, unbeknownst to us. About a month later, I took a cat who was about 8 weeks old from Downey, who came with the name, Precious (we called her Isis, or just the buzzsaw),and that same week, GA brought me the saddest bunch of siblings I had ever seem, pulled by our San Diego firefighters out of a well, during a rainstorm. From what I understand, somebody, apparently, had been walking in the rain, and heard some little frantic mews from somewhere nearby. Investigating, they found a covered well, with water rising to the top,and kittens inside. The fire dept responded and freed the kittens, turning them over to GA, and then to me. These babies had muck everywhere, and fleas on parts of their bodies you couldn't even see, just overrun. I have pictures its amazing. But, these were some of the friendliest most endearing kittens I've ever had here, and it wasn't long before the two black sisters were adopted out, through GA. Then, the little Mimi kitten got really sick and tested positive for FeLV, finally euthanized at 8 weeks old. I tested all of the cats, then, and none who came into contact with her were positive. I didn't know much about the disease then. Boy, I do now. Well the orange boy, Stinky Lancelot, and Angelina Jolie as well as Isis were going to Rescue House, a terrific local rescue org here, and they have wonderful protocol there, and tested all three kittens. Sadly, this time, two were positive, Isis neg. Isis was kept iso'd at their vet for an entire month to retest and be sure. Stinky and Angelina came home, and didn't get into RH, although they did pay for retest in them, at 60 days, just to be sure they didn't turn negative, as so many do. Isis stayed negative, as did Mama Goldie, and Angelina Jolie, my little miracle baby, who later got FIP and died in my arms at a vet, at 8 months old and Stinky Lancelot stayed positive. Stinky went to live with my mom, who had no other animals then, after her 21 yr old rescued Peekaboo kitty passed, and was a perfect fit. What a ham, what a life! My son also lived there during this time, and the two became best friends. Two weeks ago, Stinky went to my vet as he was not feeling well, and had like little pools of blood inside the bottom of both his eyes. Bloodwork was done, and it was found that he had raging leukemia cancer, severe anemia, with his white cell count, especially leukocytes, right through the roof. As this progressed, quickly, I wanted to take him in to gently help him pass, but my son was having such a hard time letting go, I wasn't able to. Finally, about 1 am dec 26th, David was pounding on my front door, ringing the bell like crazy, and woke me. He said, Stinky is doing bad, he's in lots of pain and gramma can't find the pain meds, help him! So I drove there and got him through the night, and next morning we got in to see my vet early for euthanization. But when they tried to put a catheter in, dr could find no veins at all. We had waited too long. Stinky was completely blind with thick cataracts, and one eye
[Felvtalk] Stinky Lancelot is gone
it, or looking for a nursing mom. Goodbye dear Stinky Lancelot. You were so loved, during you short life here with us. You are gone, but will never be forgotten, and the love will live forever. * *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.* * Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12
...@windstream.net javascript:; To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; Cc: one23di...@aol.com javascript:; Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Moe Message-ID: 20140921215254.2CJ3N.12814.root@pamxwww09-z01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I HAVE A 24 HOUR EMERGENCY VET BECAUSE THINGS ALWAYS HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR ON WEEKENDS. one23di...@aol.com javascript:; wrote: I'm not sure if I am doing this posting properly or not, but here goes. Moe is my felv+ heart kitty. A few days ago I noticed he was sneezing, and of course my vet is on vacation. Started him on Amoxi-tabs (1 tablet, twice daily). It has been 3 days and I think he is sneezing more and one eye has some discharge. I do have some other antibiotics in the house (clavamox, doxy) and wondered if one of them would be a better choice. The vet is not due back for another 10 days Any suggestions would be most welcome. leslie Moe and the furballs -- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 02:50:25 -0400 From: Lori Walters lori...@aol.com javascript:; To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; Subject: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia and aids Message-ID: 8d1a4489f340669-2918-17...@webmail-m234.sysops.aol.com javascript:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Sirs, I am begging for help for my feline leukemia and aids diagnosed 4yr old female cat. I need to buy lymphocyte t cell monomodulator vials. She is only experiencing an upper respiratory infection at this point. She eats, and does not seem to be in the latent stage. My girlfriend is a vet assistant. She can subcutaneously inject her. After the first 3 injections, I will have her blood monitored. Is there any possibility of purchasing this medication? I can not afford to have the primary vet purchase and administer the medication. I am disabled, not employed, and receive $1400.00 a month. Please help me.. I need to have the medication administered as soon as possible. I don't want her to die or suffer. Sincerely, Lori Wiesenthal 16 Lincoln Pl. Moonachie, NJ 07074 201-952-2410 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20140922/5f2f81a5/attachment.html -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12 *** -- *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.* * Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12
:; Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My Moe Message-ID: 20140921215254.2CJ3N.12814.root@pamxwww09-z01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I HAVE A 24 HOUR EMERGENCY VET BECAUSE THINGS ALWAYS HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR ON WEEKENDS. one23di...@aol.com javascript:; wrote: I'm not sure if I am doing this posting properly or not, but here goes. Moe is my felv+ heart kitty. A few days ago I noticed he was sneezing, and of course my vet is on vacation. Started him on Amoxi-tabs (1 tablet, twice daily). It has been 3 days and I think he is sneezing more and one eye has some discharge. I do have some other antibiotics in the house (clavamox, doxy) and wondered if one of them would be a better choice. The vet is not due back for another 10 days Any suggestions would be most welcome. leslie Moe and the furballs -- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 02:50:25 -0400 From: Lori Walters lori...@aol.com javascript:; To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; Subject: [Felvtalk] feline leukemia and aids Message-ID: 8d1a4489f340669-2918-17...@webmail-m234.sysops.aol.com javascript:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Sirs, I am begging for help for my feline leukemia and aids diagnosed 4yr old female cat. I need to buy lymphocyte t cell monomodulator vials. She is only experiencing an upper respiratory infection at this point. She eats, and does not seem to be in the latent stage. My girlfriend is a vet assistant. She can subcutaneously inject her. After the first 3 injections, I will have her blood monitored. Is there any possibility of purchasing this medication? I can not afford to have the primary vet purchase and administer the medication. I am disabled, not employed, and receive $1400.00 a month. Please help me.. I need to have the medication administered as soon as possible. I don't want her to die or suffer. Sincerely, Lori Wiesenthal 16 Lincoln Pl. Moonachie, NJ 07074 201-952-2410 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20140922/5f2f81a5/attachment.html -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12 *** -- *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.* * Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6
to find another home. ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down. What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this? -- Maya D'Alessio PhD student B1 377B, x32320 Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator Biology GSA Vice Chair GSA Director At-Large University of Waterloo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 ** -- *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.* * Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6
contact, but the lady made it seem that for the 20 years she's been running the place she has only had a handful of FELV+ cats, none of them died from it, and she had a 19 year old cat who had lived with all of them test negative for FELV recently. I can't imagine being responsible for exposing another cat to the virus and getting them sick, but I also feel bad for Merlot who is lonely. I was thining maybe I would consider (in six months or so), trying to take in a cat who was not going to find another home. ie. an older cat, or a cat from a society that they were about to put down. What do you guys think / what has your vet said to you about this? -- Maya D'Alessio PhD student B1 377B, x32320 Graduate Student Endowment Fund Coordinator Biology GSA Vice Chair GSA Director At-Large University of Waterloo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 ** -- *Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.* * Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6
Okay, no need to shout lol Personally, if my vet wouldn't treat my positive unvaxxed for rabies cat, I'd find a different vet. But, vet issue aside, i totally understand her stance since the bat but her cat. Totally. On Thursday, August 14, 2014, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: SOME VETS WILL NOT TREAT AN UNVACCINATED CAT, POS OR NOT. Kat Parker korruptaki...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Why do the rabies? I would do the fvrcp before the rabies and i won't so either one. If your cat is not outside at all, which especially with being positive i think not, and you don't have rabid animals around, again, probably not the case, why on earth would you give a rabies shot to a positive cat? The law is ot going to be enforced in your home it's not a big deal, but over vaccinating a positive cat is a big deal. They have that antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop antibodies. On Thursday, August 14, 2014, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org javascript:; wrote: Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; javascript:; To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org javascript:; javascript:; You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org javascript:; javascript:; When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? (Shelley Theye) 2. Re: New have question (dlg...@windstream.net javascript:; javascript:;) 3. Re: FELV contagious (dlg...@windstream.net javascript:; javascript:;) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 -0400 From: Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net javascript:; javascript:; To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org javascript:; javascript:; Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? Message-ID: 79d7a665-5346-488d-90a8-62c6c5664...@bellsouth.net javascript:; javascript:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Lance, I am not sure! I will ask her. She is pretty great. Didn't even consider euth. when he tested positive. Went ahead and neutered Leo and told me the news later that day. I just keep thinking about what the folks on this list said last year when I asked, that their cats became sick after vaccinating. Thanks for letting me know that Ember did OK without vaccines at the vet clinic. I don't know if they make a purevax FVRCP. We will do the Rabies, and vet said to wait at least 2 weeks between vaccines if do the FVRCP. I thought that was good of her to suggest too, because it is better not to do them all at once. I never realized that until a few years ago. I'll let you all know if I find out anything on this, will probably just do the rabies though for now. Shelley On Aug 11, 2014, at 10:45 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm javascript:; javascript:; wrote: I wish I had an answer for you. Would your vet be willing to log onto Vetinfo to see what other vets are recommending for FeLV cats? I seem to recall that Ember?s vet recommended that she be vaccinated, but we never did that. Despite her low white count, she never picked anything up at the vet?s office as far as I know. Even the dentals didn?t weaken her enough. If Purevax makes an FVRCP vaccine, that might be the better one to go with. It is supposed to have less possibility of causing a fibrosarcoma (we used to call them vax site sarcomas). Also, you?re not overthinking this. You?re being a good and protective cat parent. Best wishes for you and Leo, Lance On Aug 11, 2014, at 8:47 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net javascript:; javascript:; wrote: Hi All, I asked last year when Leo was due for his yearly check-up, about how everyone feels about vaccinating their Leukemia pos. cats in general. The replies I received cautioned not to vaccinate for FVRCP, that is caused cats to become ill afterwards. I have to get Leo vacc. for rabies since it is the law, will do the Purevax like I did last year, but he has only received one FVRCP vacc. back in summer 2012, when I first got him and he was neutered and I wasn't told about his FeLV status until afterwards. At the time I thought he was a feral cat, he actually was, but has since become quite tame. Last year, in 2013, I opted not to do the FVRCP, because of the cautionary emails on the subject. I guess my only worry
[Felvtalk] L-lysine
I've used L-lysine capsules over the years just fine--same ones people take. Buy them at a health food store. For an adult, average sized cat (8-12 pounds +/-), buy the 500 mg capsules, open them up, and use roughly half mixed in with a can of cat food,or equivalent. Ideally, you use 250 in the morning,250 in the evening. During flare-ups you can dose as high as 1000a day,given in two doses, split equally. It is nearly impossible for a cat to overdose on L-lysine as it is water soluble and what is not used is peed out right away.And, the treatment will probably need to be given for life,for the same reason. It works only when you give it, and it must be given every 12 hours (twice a day). Lysine supplements also come in a variety of products formulated as treats, paste, powder, tablets and chews, so it’s easier for cats to take, too,but I have always used the 500 mg capsules. * Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector* -- Forwarded message -- From: Rachel Raven kandyrac...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:06:24 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] L-Lysine My vet has a pharmacy mix up a cat suitable dosage of liquid L-Lysine (with fish flavoring). It is quite expensive and I always have some left over. I was wondering if anyone knows if this stuff can still be used after the use by date or not? Also I've seen in health food stores lysine capsules. I was wondering if anyone uses that for their cat and in what dosage? Or if anyone knows if that would be something that could be done? I figured it would probably be okay if the conversions were right but since the mix I get from the pharmacy also contains some sort of fish flavor that may change the ml so I don't know. Thank you for any help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 4
*Hello Lee, and others, Lee, would you, by any chance,know how I could find that true study? I would love to get my hands on that! I was contacted by some residents of a small island off the coast of Southern California,Santa Catalina Island. The Island is owned by the Wriggly family, same Wriggleys who make the chewing gum. It only has about 400 or so year round residents, because it is a small island, and only a tiny portion of it is inhabited. Most of the island (85%) is a nature conservancy, and the Wriggleys are very proud of this contribution to nature and science. Well, tourism is the mainstay of the island locals living in Avalon (the town on the island) and people boat and fly over,often bringing their cats,and sometimes the cats stay, either on accident or purposefully lefty there. So, the island has a large feral population,as the island has no real vet or vet hospital, but only a weekend vet, more or less. To be fair, they weekend vet,along with help from Pasadena Humane Society, has made an effort to TNR some of the cats of Avalon. The problem lies in that on the 85 percent of the island not easily accessible to humans, some cats,though ve5ry difficult and arduous to survive on, have taken up residence on the 85%. So,those cats are not only not easily trappable, if at all possible to do, but have been reeking havoc on the islands wildlife balance. Some of the Avalon locals contact6ed me to help with TNR and said the cats need a solution: Wriggleys don't want to kill them,because of the bad publicity it would bring, but something has to be done.So while I was preparing to present something to the Wriggley family to help solve the problem without a bloodbath, I got another message that the Wriggleys hired an exterminator company and most of the cats on Avalon, were now gone. It would be great to have that study to use right about now... * * Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** * Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: All these killer cat articles are a backlash against TNR. It's unfortunate that some people are so mentally paralyzed that they don't realize that spaying and neutering a cat (or dog) will stop the reproductive cycle. A spayed cat is a spayed cat, one cat. An intact cat is a cat and then more and more cats with each birth of kittens. I have spoken to people who say, Well yes, but even if you spay the cat you still have a cat. Using this logic, any time you have a quantity of individuals who are considered too many, including human overpopulation you should look towards a solution that involves killing the individuals, which instantly rids the area of the unwanted human or non human but doesn't solve the long term problem of overpopulation. Hitler tried this form of birth control, killing those individuals that he thought were not valuable and should not reproduce. Obviously, it didn't work too well. Any time killing is involved in population control, there will be people who will not go along with the program because of issues like compassion and aversion to death. Now here's a true study. There was a town in Arizona or Colorado (not sure which State) that did have a large number of free-roaming cats. They did trap them and kill them and were down to very few cats. Most of the remaining cats were kept inside. It was actually against the law to allow cats outside. Mother Nature hates to be tampered with. In a year, the town was overrun by rats and mice and crop eating small mammals. People were so upset that the City Council voted to import several hundred cats from shelters in surrounding towns so that they could rebuild their outside cat population. It seems that in spite of the 150 million estimate of cats and the billions of dead mice and rats and birds, we see no dearth of mice, rats and birds, including song birds. And yes, cats are an introduced species although the cat family of larger cats such as mountain lions, bob cats and others were here already when explorers arrived to settle this continent. There was a good reason why the cats came along. If they hadn't, the rats and mice that infested the ships would have eaten the food supplies before the ships could complete the journey. All that would have been left would have been skeletons of starved to death settlers. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] War on Cats and Others Take heart: http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2013/02/03/170851048/do-we-really-know-that-cats-kill-by-the-billions-not-so-fast ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition
I have been vegetarian a few years, but I often buy and cook chichen for the cats. I boil it, then shred it, and almost always have a bowl of it in my fridge and/or freezer for them. My friends think I am whacko because of that. I don't ever eat it, but I know cats have different needs, and they need meat. I , naturally have the option, being omnivorous, but they don't have the same choice in their diet, as you all well know. About once a month, I am a chicken cooking fool, on a fairly large scale. (I always apologize to the birds. haha) I've also heard that cats cannot taste sweet, Kathryn... I am baffled by this. I know that they love the taste of Karo syrup, and even concentrated SUGAR WATER is often used on the gums of kits to stimulate a little appetite, especially the wee ones who need to take a bottle. Also, though I have never tasted it, I heard anti-freeze is sweet, and that is why so many cats are poisoned by it. This sounds like such a contradiction to me, and I wonder, if it's not the sweet they taste in the syrup, what is it? And in sugar water, there is only sugar...and water. What else could it be? Kat -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 02:55:28 -0800 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition I've been vegan for almost 20 years (vegetarian for some some before that), so it's always funny when people see me buying so much meat for the cats. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 03:38:11 -0800 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition Some of my cats adore veggies. Cats can't taste sweet, did you know? No receptors for it. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: They might just like veggies, plus corn is sweet. My cats are obsessed with lettuce. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2012 6:46 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition There's so much corn in cat food that when I opened a can of corn for myself recently, one of my cats ran over and began gobbling it. Sheesh! Since I'm a vegetarian, they don't get leftovers like hamburger and chicken. So they eat my corn and tofu. Weird world. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2012 1:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition Not only are corn, wheat, and soy not cat food (they can't digest veggies very well, much less grains, which can give them diabetes and IBD), but unless the corn and soy are organic, they are most likely GMO, and soy can give cats Hyperthyroidism (I learned this the hard way on a 7-month-old who died). Yes, fish dries the system (ours, too), and is a mercury risk. I've already said what I think about dry food. On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:50 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: My Homey has had several bouts of crystals. She liked the Hill's SD canned food, but not the dry. I had taken my guys off Hills because they ahve corn, wheat and soy and they are allergic to those ingredients. I now feed Blue buffalo dry DUCK. We love that and also the duck canned food. We hate chicken and fish which is okay because the vet said fish can be part of the problem. I have tried to get them off the dry, but not too much luck. Right now, Homey is okay. I got water fountains and everyone loves them. It recirculates the water thre a filter. The plastic ones are okay, but need to be cleaned out more often. I got one on line that is stainless steel. Much better, lower profile so I can open cabinet doors without hitting it and it does not need to be cleaned as often. With the fountains, the water is always moving, makes noise and they do drink more water. You might try them. Emma Beauchamp weazy...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello All, My cat Gertrude Penelope Pennyapple is a one year old baby and she has had FELV probably since she was born. She has always been very healthy despite the FELV and a chronic upper respiratory infection, but recently (Sunday night) she contracted a UTI. She had a urinalysis at the vet and 130 dollars later she was diagnosed with an UTI, and Struvite Crystals were present in her bladder. I was given an Antibiotic called Orbax and given Hill's Science Prescription diet S/D. I bought a bag of Dry Food and a couple of cans of wet. My
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9
For the ones who have never seen or heard of this happening, it happens more than some might think! I have a cat, now, Awesome Pawsome, who was one of a litter I socialized from a feral mom.There were 4 kittens--two siamese, a gray, and a tortie, in this litter. Mom was TNR'd from a feral colony, here in San Diego. When tested at about 9 weeks old, all except the gray were positive. 60 days later, only the tortie was positive.So 1/4 of my litter was born negative from a positive Mom. WE did not test the mom, because the neuter scooter was out of those test tubes that day. However,it was discovered, post-mortem, that she was positive. You see, she died, at the colony, several months later. Back to the kittens, 3/4--the negatives--were adopted out to good homes, with the understanding that 2 had previously tested positive, but flipped to negatives. All of those kittens are still negative and alive. One of the four, the tortie, who was the most difficult to tame, persistently tested positive, and the rescue I was then with, was considering putting her up for adoption, for free--on Craigslist! I could not let that happen to her, so I adopted her myself, and this was about 25 months ago. She now is probably the healthiest ,Kitty I have here, of all my fosters and personal cats, except for the fact she is FeLV+ status. I did almost lose her once, to killer calici, and she had such swollen joints and was lame on all fours, alternating 3 legs at a time, for over three months, besides the sores, and all of the other oddities that accompany calici. All my cats got it, even though Pawsome lives in my room, ISO, did not come into contact with any others... and I almost lost her. Other than that, she has only had sniffles and a sneeze, which I immediately start antibiotics at the tiniest indication of. I do realize that she is on her third year of life, and usually kitties don't make it this far, and dread every day she might be sick from something minute. I watch her like a hawk, for fear of losing her. But she has beat the odds so far, and I hope she continues to be healthy and happy and playful, like she is now, for a long time to come. Kat *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [ mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Lee Evans *Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:14 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas ** ** Some kittens born to FeLv+ mothers do turn negative but it's more likely that an adult who contracted the disease from another adult will fight it off and turn negative, like my cats Moses and Percy. Percy is FIV+ though. He's a young street fighter rescued in terrible condition. I'm really happy he fought off the FeLv. I have an FIV+ area for my little colony of positives so no problem. Percy is going to join them this week. He's all shiny and fat now. ** ** The bad news about FeLv kittens is that most of them never make it to adulthood. The ones who do will live for about 2 years. Taco and Smooch were rescued as adults already. They were FeLv+. They lived with me for about 2 years. They were buddies, from different street situations but they bonded nicely the last year of their lives. *Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!* ** ** -- *From:* GRAS g...@optonline.net *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:50 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas ** ** In the 20 years of cat rescue, with so many FIV+ mother cats, not a single kitten EVER was FIV+! And when and if tested, there was absolutely no sign of it by age 3 months, although some vets say that it could be up to 6 months. They shed the virus quite rapidly as their immune systems develop. I have never heard of kittens born to FeLV mothers ever being negative.*** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 06:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FIV FeLV kittens I've always seen FIV kittens turn negative after being taken away from mom for a period. I've never seen a kitten positive on an FeLV test turn negative later. I have seen litters where 1 might consistently test negative on an Elisa the others are positive, but the negative has always eventually turned positive, even after being removed from mom. I know there are others with different experiences, but this has always been my experience.. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Section 1983
Hiya Kathryn and everyone. The federal statute you were referring to, Kathryn, is Section 1983, and my step-brother, Sheldon Eisenberg, is the one who wrote the Section 1983 to the rescue, on Nathan's site you found, and Sheldon used it in court representing Cathy Nguyen and Nathan against Los Angeles County Dept of Animal Care and Control, which he won a stipulated order from the judge in that lawsuit. (Not that it does any good at all, now, but ... whatever. lol) I did not intend to correct any person in particular, just wanted to mention the name of the law, which is really easy to forget, actually, but really wonderful to be able to use for all being a FEDERAL STATUTE, and there are a lot of rescuers in here. ~Kat~ -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:21:00 -0800 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters What do you mean by ``rules''? Laws? If they are not in compliance with laws, then turn them in. (Of course, if you're a rescuer pulling from these pounds, then you have to protect yourself using the federal law Section 1982: http://www.nathanwinograd.com/?p=728 As for the citizens, put ads in the papers, and maybe even send out informative flyers (ask for the money to do so via a Chipin). You can also try to get social media attention via the various animal blogs that push shelter reform, e.g., YesBiscuit!. Who holds the contract with the pound? Don't give up. It may take years, and we're seeing progress even in TX. Probably the moderator would like us to take this offline by now. . . On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: The problem here is that I'm in Texas. Killing is the State Sport. Unfortunately, most of the Animal Control Officers don't even know the new rules, which include acceptance of TNR as a way to control outside cats. They are still terrorizing people who have a small batch of backyard cats who are spayed/neutered and have their rabies shots. They are counting these cats in the 8 cat limit when the new code states specifically that they are NOT included in the cat limit rule. They recently reduced the number of cats/dogs allowed to 8 from 10. This makes no sense except when you realize that they will now charge for an excess animal permit. Then it makes sense to reduce the legal limit so that a number of people are now over the limit and have to purchase the permit. Nasty little tricks. People who have received a citation in the past for having over the permissible limit of cats/dogs are prohibited from purchasing the permit. More nonsense. It would help if all the ACO's were required to read the new codes and then be tested on whether or not they understand them. The citizens of this city don't know the rules either. Cat haters are terrorizing cat caring neighbors, threatening them with reporting them when there's nothing to report because the cat caregivers are actually in compliance. I think that ignorance is our worst enemy. Even when we get good ordinances, they don't work because no one knows about them. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] rENaVAST (FROM tANYA'AS crf SITE)
*RenAvast (FROM tANYA'S SITE) * -- RenAvast http://renavast.com was launched in the USA in summer 2011 and contains something called Avastamine (AB070597). Avastamine is said to consist of naturally occurring biomolecules, which apparently means it is a proprietary mix of seven specific amino acids or peptides, though they do not state which ones. Amino acids are the components of protein. Peptides are the molecules formed when two or more amino acids are joined together. There are 23 amino acids which cats need, and they can manufacture twelve of these themselves, but the other eleven must be obtained from food. Taurinehttp://www.felinecrf.org/nutritional_requirements.htm#taurineis one example of an amino acid which cats must obtain from food. Virginia-Maryland Regional College of Veterinary Medicinehttp://www.vetmed.vt.edu/vth/sa/clin/cp_handouts/Nutrition_Adult_Cat.pdf explains more about cats and amino acids. RenAvast is marketed as a dietary supplement. Dietary supplements do not need US Food and Drug Administration approval but the manufacturers make the bold claims that RenAvast can halt the progression of chronic renal failure in cats and that unlike other products and drugs, RenAvast does not treat the symptoms of renal failure, it treats the cause. The FDAhttp://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySupplements/ConsumerInformation/ucm110417.htm#regulate states that a product sold as a dietary supplement and promoted on its label or in labeling as a treatment, prevention or cure for a specific disease or condition would be considered an unapproved - and thus illegal - drug. RenAvast is being widely promoted online. The marketing literature for RenAvast focuses heavily on a study published online by the manufacturers (rather than in a veterinary journal), AB070597 and its effect on declining renal function in felineshttp://adminpilot.s3.amazonaws.com/renavast/files/2011/07/renavast-pdf.pdf(2007) Archer J, published online. This reports on 19 cats who were given RenAvast over a two year period. Cats joined and left the study during this period so it is not known over how long a period the results for individual cats were measured. No cats in the trial were on sub-Q fluids or a prescription diet, but it is not known if they were receiving other treatments such as phosphorus binders or Azodyl. Many of the cats were in early stage CKD (Stage 2 of IRIS), and it is not uncommon for cats in this stage to survive for years. An unrelated study, Plasma amino acid profiles in cats with naturally acquired chronic renal failure http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9918157 (1999) Goldstein RE, Marks SL, Cowgill LD, Kass PH Rogers QR *American Journal of Veterinary Research* *60(1)* pp109-13, found that CKD cats in all stages of the disease had lower levels of amino acids than healthy cats. However, they concluded the magnitude of these changes is mild and of little clinical relevance. This is an older study, and it might eventually be shown that supplementary amino acids are in fact helpful to CKD cats, but currently there is no evidence that RenAvast is the miracle cure it claims to be. What do I think of RenAvast? My hunch is that RenAvast contains widely available and inexpensive unpatented amino acids packaged together and subjected to some clever marketing. If it only contains amino acids and peptides, it is probably not going to do any harm, but without knowing exactly what it contains, I cannot say for sure. It might be a good product, it might not, but it is unlikely to be as effective as its manufacturers claim, and it is certainly not cheap at over US$30 a month. Based on the information currently available, I would save my money and put it towards more proven treatments than RenAvast. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] let's get honest, Chuckie
*I love this group. I love the people in it. I love the passion the members of this group have for the kitties who are unfortunate enough to meet up with this deadly retrovirus, and the dedication to improving infected cats' lives. Anyone who comes in here with less than the best of intentions for FeLV positive kitties understandably will not be coddled and cosseted. And even the person receiving the scolding will understand that it is coming from a place deep in the heart, borne of love and compassion, if they are honestly looking at what is being said to them. I don't believe anyone could possibly be naive enough to NOT SEE where this criticism of them stems from, even if they refuse to state this fact out loud. lol And, knowing this, the smart thing to do would be to stick around and get a clue, because I am sure that with the desire to do right by their cat, anyone would be welcome and accepted here. In fact, this is what everyone is actually hoping for, I'll bet any money. ** **These people in here are EXPERTS at FeLV+ cats, info, treatment, everything. This is a place you want to be if you have an FeLV+ cat you care about. Miracles of understanding and knowledge happen here. **You say you treat them good and care about them/her. ** Awesome. **Just say you want to help the kitties... we can help you help them. Step up, Sir. Do the right thing, please. * *(**And I agree... Ben does rock! I am in awe. [?]*) * Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* *http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector * ** ** B12.gif___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment
*This was sent to me in email from a rescuer I know and work with. I have an FIV cat I rescued from a drainpipe who now lives with another friend of mine, John, and is very sick with stomatitis. Don't know if this will help anyone, but it's good to pass along since FIV+ and FeLV+ cats have problems with stomatitis: *Last year one of our vets found literature tying Stomatitis to Bartonella. In fact, on the results for Bartonella now there is a sentence saying that they have now found a connection between Bartonella and Stomatitis in cats. A lot of cats carry Bartonella (also tied into heart issues which a lot of people do not realize)! So I highly recommend checking for Bartonella before removing his/her teeth. The treatment is just a round of Azithromycin. Since discovering this connection we have had several cats with stomatitis test positive for Bartonella and all cleared after a round of Zithro. I found a few links and pasted below. Julia http://www.virginiaveterinarydentistry.com/647115.html An association has been established between Feline Stomatitis and a specific bacterial organism called Bartonella. In a large study 70% of cats with severe gingivitis/ stomatitis syndrome tested positive for this organism. Antibiotics in routine veterinary use have no effect on Bartonella organisms but there is an antibiotic called azithromycin that is effective. We are now recommending that all cats with symptoms of stomatitis or severe gingivitis should be tested and those that are strongly positive be treated. In the same large study, more than 70% responded favorably to treatment. Bartonella is unlikely to be a causative organism but one that contributes to the problem. Some cats do not test positive and some that are positive do not improve, but the link to Bartonella is promising and most cats that we have treated have improved substantially. * Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= * ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] i hate this disease!
*I never set out wanting to fall in love with an FeLV+ cat. I have been a cat rescuer for about 7 years, now.I've worked indie and with several 501c3's in San Diego. i especially like bottle babies and socializing feral kits, and did this a lot for one group here, until I got a litter of four wild ones, 5 weeks old, where 3/4 tested pos for FeLV. On 2nd snap 2/3 of those had cleared it and only my Awesome Opossum remained pos. The no-kill group I was fostering for wanted to waive the adoption fee and put her on Craigslist. I adopted her, myself, to save her, and now could not imagine life without her. She's 20 months old now, asymptomatic and seemingly healthy as can be. I know when it happens, though, it often happens fast. I was brought two kits by a rescue I volunteered for, in March, a one day old, Angelina Jolie, and a one week old, Mimi. I made a tough decision to try adding them both to a lactating mama who had herself lost 2/3 of her babies. She welcomed both... what an odd family-with her own 3 week old kit, Kiwi. Mimi died of FeLV at 8 weeks old.Mama and Kiwi, her kit, both tested neg., Angelina Jolie was too young at the time to test. She looked and acted so healthy and vibrant until her final few days. I lost her a week ago tonight to FeLV. I held my perfect miracle in my arms and tried to comfort her and let her know it was okay to let go...of her life. ( I am bawling my eyes out right now, again.) Tested my other 2 kits around same age (unrelated)--one pos, one neg. OMG. I am again worried for Mama, Kiwi, and my other 3 (adults) here. This perfect world, such perfect angels, devastated. All 3 teenagers not incl. Kiwi, had adoptions waiting, ironically. I count my blessings my awesome Opossum is not sick. I hate this disease! ** ~Kat~ **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** * *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felv+ 15 year old
*Friends of Cats, in Lakeside, has an opening for FeLV, I understand. They charge $500.* Please note: forwarded message attachedFrom: Cyndi Zacko cdza...@gmail.comTo: undisclosed-recipients:;Subject: Fwd: Felv+ 15 year old will be euthanized Thursday.Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2012 19:36:18 -0800Please network - I would have her�RETESTED FOR SURE -- Forwarded message --From: *Caring Friends Cat Rescue* caringfriendscatres...@yahoo.comDate: Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:34 PMSubject: Felv+ 15 year old will be euthanized Thursday.To: joyce@gmail.com joyce@gmail.com, Cyndi Zacko cdza...@gmail.com, faith rajac faithra...@hotmail.com, Lorraine Rudolph jsljr...@aol.com I recieved this e-mail from one of my volunteers today. One of her students found this kitty and her mom took it to the Irvine Shelter. She tested positive for felv. They believe she's around 15 years old. If no one steps up to take her they are going to euthanized her on Thursday. Does anyone have a safe comfy place for this kitty? Please contact the Irvine shelter if you can help her. Julie * * ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ accepting--true no-kill rescue list
True No Kill Cat Sanctuaries and Shelters *Disabled Cats* -::- *Special Needs Cats* -::- *FELV Positive Cats* -::- *FIV Positive Cats* -::- *Shelters Sanctuaries* Alaska Humane Society Adopt-a-Cat; Alaska http://www.adopt-a-cat.org/ The Ark, Inc; Alabama http://www.arkinc.org/ KatsPaw Hospice; Alabama http://www.gulftel.com/katspaw/ The Hermitage Cat Shelter; Arizona http://www.hermitagecats.org/ Arizona Feline Network; Arizona http://www.azfelines.org/ Cows Cats and Dog Logs; Arizona http://www.cowcats.com/ Cat Care Society; Colorado http://www.catcaresociety.org/ Purrs And Whiskers Shelter, Inc. (PAWS); Florida http://www.pawsfla.com/ The Harmony House For Cats; Illinois http://www.hhforcats.org/ Felines Inc.; Illinois http://www.felinesinc.org/ Animal Lifeline of Iowa; Iowa http://www.animal-lifeline.com/ Kitties From Heaven; Iowa http://www.kittiesfromheaven.com/ CW Rustic Hollow Shelter; Iowa http://www.rustichollowshelter.org/ Holly's Place Animal Rescue; Kentucky http://www.hollys.org/ Almost Home; Michigan http://www.almosthomerescuegroup.com/ Crash's Landing; Michigan http://www.crashslanding.org/ Home For Life; Minnesota http://www.homeforlife.org/ Rolling Dog Ranch - Cats; Montanahttp://www.rollingdogranch.org/cats/index.html Kitty Angels; Mass. New Hampshire http://www.kittyangels.org/ Felines Enjoying Lives of Value; New Jerseyhttp://members.petfinder.org/%7ENJ197 Tabby's Place; New Jersey http://www.tabbysplace.org/ Pets Alive; New York http://www.petsalive.com/ Animal Haven; New York http://www.animalhavenshelter.org/ Spring Farm Cares; New Yorkhttp://www.springfarmcares.org/animalsanctuary.htm Safe Haven for Cats; N. Carolina http://www.safehavenforcats.org/ The Marley Fund; N. Carolina http://www.marleyfund.com/ Blind Cat Rescue Sanctuary; N. Carolina http://blindcatrescue.com/ Caroline's Kids Pet Rescue; Ohio http://carolines-kids.org/ Best Little Cat House in PA; Pennsylvaniahttp://www.thebestlittlecathouseinpa.com/ 1 by 1 Cat Rescue; Pennsylvania http://1by1catrescue.org/ Animal Rescue Inc; Pennsylvania http://www.animalrescueinc.org/ House of Mews; Tennessee http://www.houseofmews.com/ The Stray Connection; Tennesseehttp://www.petfinder.org/shelters/TN265.html Purrever Ranch; Tennessee http://www.gotcats.org/ Operation Kindness; Texas http://www.operationkindness.org/ Best Friends Animal Sanctuary; Utah http://bestfriends.org/atthesanctuary/ S.O.S. Save Our Strays, Vermont http://saveourstrays.petfinder.com/ Friends Of Homeless Animals; Virginia D.C.http://www.foha.org/main_sublinks.asp?id=16sid=16 Rikki's Refuge; Virginia http://www.rikkisrefuge.org/ Perfect Pals FIV Sanctuary; Washingtonhttp://www.purrfectpals.org/Sanctuary/FIVLand.asp CFA Purebred Rescue - Not entirely no kill, but a valuable resource if dealing with purebred cats http://cfapurebredrescue.org/ Here at Little Cheetah, we believe that any cat that is living a good quality of life, or has an excellent prognosis of recovering to live a good quality of life once rehabilitated DESERVES a chance! We support The Asilomar Accords http://www.asilomaraccords.org/ +1. What does the +1 mean? It's simple, it means that while we support the typical ideals of the general No Kill community, it also means we take it one step farther, to include all asymptomatic FELV+ and FIV+ cats, as well as any other cat in danger of being discriminated against due to medical limitation or disability! We take exception to Asilomar Accord Part III, Unhealthy and Untreatable, Paragraph 2: *(2) are suffering from a disease, injury, or congenital or hereditary condition that adversely affects the animal's health or is likely to adversely affect the animal's health in the future, and are not likely to become healthy or treatable even if provided the care typically provided to pets by reasonable and caring pet owners/guardians in the community;* We feel that it is unfair to condemn an animal to death for something that COULD happen many years in the future. We feel that QUALITY or life is much more important than quantity of life - even short lives deserve to be lived! We also believe that the typically provided care that the average pet receives should not be the end all cut off point to which we should give up on an animal. Special pets happen, and there ARE special people out there willing to provide exceptional care for EXCEPTIONS to this rule! We believe that there are conditions that are not treatable and that do cause disability, that do not cause suffering, like Cerebellar Hypoplasia, Blindness, and Terminal Heart conditions. We do not feel these cats are candidates for Euthanasia! Then, there's the simple fact... To us, you can't be No Kill if you're still routinely euthanising healthy, asymptomatic cats because of a test result! Do you know of another NO KILL shelter or sanctuary that does not kill FELV+ or FIV+ cats? If so, let us know! Little Cheetah Cat Rescue Contact: senti...@ucat.us -I cannot seem to locate this page's
[Felvtalk] Very Scary Testing results!
*Very scary.. see below..* --Original Message-- From: Ellen Fawl To: rescuealliancew...@yahoogroups.com Subject: Scary FELV test results! Sent: Nov 22, 2011 11:16 PM I need to share this so it can get to the FELV Lists and whomever is following this testing debacle. We took in 5 Persians last week. We had them combo tested with the standard Snap test. All five tested positive. We had blood work done on one cat and it came back negative. We assumed the tests were done wrong so they redid them two days ago. All four remaining cats tested positive AGAIN. We had blood work taken on all four, sent it in, and all four came back negative. This is really scary stuff. Cats are killed all the time because they test positive. Had we heard about these cats being in a shelter testing positive it's not likely we could have taken them in. The vet office in Santa Cruz is going to follow up with the company, but if there is anyone else out there tracking this stuff, I want to get the information to them. Ellen * Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** **Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur
*There are varying degrees of heart murmurs in cats. They are measures in fractions of 6. For instance, a 2 out of 6, or 2/6, is not as serious a a 4/6. We had a cat who was diagnosed with a murmur, and we did not have the money to get further testing done on him at that time because he was fresh off the street, A stray that just followed me inside one day after I had fed him. lol He looked awful, mainly because he had been living as a stray with a bad flea allergy. What a fantastic cat he proved to be! Well, all was ell for about 6 months, then he started fainting (syncope), and we were told to get the echo done. We did, at a specialist here in San Diego, with the help of some awesome MySpace friends and a chip in, and it was learned then that he had cardiomyopathy with pulmonary edema and aortic stenosis. His lungs were so full of liquid and his heart had the all too common cardiomyopathy cats get. I was told by the specialty hospital vet that it often happens that these disorders, heart murmur and cardiomyopathy, go hand in hand (but not in every case). Zoh's heart murmur was a 4/6, which is significant. They put Zoh on 3 meds which he took for the rest of his life, every day. Furosemide (lasix) for the fluid in the lungs, Atenolol, a blood pressure med, and one more bp mes, I cannot remember the name of, but he got better. I was told cats with cardiomyopathy rarely live long, and Zoh lived 2 more years till he succumbed to a heart attack and died in my arms, in my room. I am hoping this info of my experience with heart murmurs might give you something to talk about to your vet. I would def ask what the meds are, what class, and why he is prescribing them, as well as get a definite diagnosis/prognosis in his professional opinion. It sounds like he did not give you enough info. And, I would say the echocardiogram is very important to get, even if it is a bit pricey and you might have to go a little distance to find a place to get it done. most vets do not have one in their office, although if your cat is breathing hard, ask for a chest xray, for starters. (Not as expensive, either. lol)Good luck. ** Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** * *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* -- Forwarded message -- From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com To: feline leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:56:47 + Subject: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama Scrumptious Luscious and Pookashay Shallie Marie Harold James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] fire decals -- animals inside
*Fire with me being not at home is one of my worst nightmares. I sent away for the free decal from ASPCA about animals inside. Here is the link: http://www.aspca.org/about-us/free-aspca-stuff/free-pet-safety-pack.aspx ** Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** **Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* -- Forwarded message -- From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 21:54:01 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire I had not thought about what if I were not home. That is enough to make me never leave home again! Peggy Verdonck-Riley jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest fear with 9 cats! Luckely we have an enclosed cat playground outside. We can just push them out the cat door in the window and lock it behind them. I just hope something like that never happens when we aren't home! On Dec 2, 2011 4:34 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: What a terrible story! This is a lesson I learned from a friend of mine. Her house was on fire and she grabbed her cat and took him outside but he ran back inside and died in the fire. God forbid any of you ever have to rescue your cats from a burning house, but cats will always run back inside because this is the place they feel safe. Always put your cats in carriers or in your car outside your home. With 13 cats this would have been terribly difficult for your parents, but if there are only one or two cats this can be done. Lorrie On 12-02, GRAS wrote: In 1964, my parents' house in Chicago had a fire on a night of a huge snowstorm, 3'! The fire department had a hard time getting there because side street were not plowed, especially not at 3 AM. They had 13 cats, and I had just moved back with my two cats because I couldn't afford my apartment closer to school. All the cats died in the fire, although my father was running around, grabbing them and putting them on an enclosed porch, they all ran back as he opened the door.When the house was rebuilt, a cat was found in the basement ceiling/rafters, completely soft and pliable (not stiff!) - poor cats most probably died from smoke inhalation because they have such tiny lungs. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Sir Rouncewell Please add to the CLS :*(
** Oh, I am so sorry to hear this! You go through this so much. Please, may I ask you, what is a Sids kid, besides the obvious of being one of your FeLV+ kitties? -- Forwarded message -- From: Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Felvtalk] Sir Rouncewell Please add to the CLS :*( We lost our Sweet roly poly Rouncey today. He was a Sids kid for 2 years and had such a great purrsonality. When I met him for the first time and he looked at me and brought tears to my eyes(we had just lost Demetri,one of my special Sids boys) Rouncey resembled him and stole my heart.Great tiger boy with white feetI will miss you my sweet Rouncey Pounces. :( Sherry *We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary* *than our own,* *Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached.* *Unable to accept its awful gaps.* *We still would have it no other way* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cali pos kitten
*Thank you, Natalie, and Jenine, and everyone else who helped her make this choice. I hope she makes the kitten a solid part of her family, since in all other ways it is a perfect fit! ** Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:00 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.orgwrote: Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Anyone in CA know of someone to take FeLV kitten? (Natalie) -- Forwarded message -- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 14:21:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone in CA know of someone to take FeLV kitten? Thanks! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jenine Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone in CA know of someone to take FeLV kitten? I just meant the kitten is in safe hands. She's having a different vet do another in house, then if necessary the IFA. On 10/27/2011 9:15 AM, Natalie wrote: What do you mean by fine - NOT positive? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jenine Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone in CA know of someone to take FeLV kitten? She's on top of it. Kitten is fine. On 10/27/2011 7:06 AM, Natalie wrote: I sent her some info about FeLV testing. Has anyone else written to her with advice? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 2:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone in CA know of someone to take FeLV kitten? I think she should retest and give this baby a chance. Heatherfurrygi...@gmail.com wrote: I sure hope she might retest first, so many false positives these days it seems... On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Natalieat...@optonline.net wrote: Can anyone help? Natalie ** ** sus...@bannermattress.net writes: I found a stray kitten at work last week. I took her to my vet this Saturday and she tested positive for feline leukemia. I already have two kittens, 7 months and 3 months old, so there is no possibility for Rockie to join my household. I have heard that there are people who keep or foster cats with leukemia. Do you know of anyone who does this? She is a friendly, sweet, delightful little tortie who gets along wonderfully with my two dogs. She is approximately 7 weeks old and weighs in at a whopping 1.11 lbs. Thanks for any help you can provide. Susan Macias (909) 730-9762 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 3, Issue 24
*No. I am just hopeful that, after all the money she is spending at her vet's, after all the positive info on FeLV she is getting and learning, and after spending this time with the kitten and getting to know her, that she will decide to keep her. After all, she said, She is a friendly, sweet, delightful little tortie who gets along wonderfully with my two dogs. The decision I was referring to is her taking the kitten to another vet for additional testing, and being receptive to input from others. Sorry if I confused. ** **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 05:02:18 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cali pos kitten Did I miss some e-mail? Is she definitely keeping the kitten? Natalie ** ** *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *kat parker *Sent:* Saturday, October 29, 2011 4:42 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Cali pos kitten ** ** *Thank you, Natalie, and Jenine, and everyone else who helped her make this choice. I hope she makes the kitten a solid part of her family, since in all other ways it is a perfect fit! ** ** Love and Katnip, ~Kat~** =^,,^=** ** **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** *** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] California Kat and kitties
*My name is Kat Parker and I have been lurking on this list for probably close to a year--not sure exactly. I have been afraid to post thinking when I did my baby might get sick. (Makes no sense, I know, but I have that unreasonable fear) Feels like I know so many of you already, reading your posts, your sadness, your strengths, and I feel the love in this group. I am in San Diego, and I do rescue, like so many here. That is how I got my Awesome Opossum. Anyway, I was reading Natalie's post about the LA Susan, and actually I just got done emailing the network here regarding that. Seems she is not very well researched on the illness. Maybe some of you can email her your knowledge, and she might decide to deep the baby at least for a while in her room? I will,. later, cause I have a thousand things to do today. It's nice to finally introduce myself, though. You all really inspire me. I seriously respect this group. More later, when I have more time. Blessings. ** Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= **I'm Kat Parker. I park cats.** Spay neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.* *Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE HAPPY cat!* -- Forwarded message -- From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 17:40:20 -0400 Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone in CA know of someone to take FeLV kitten? Can anyone help? Natalie sus...@bannermattress.net writes: I found a stray kitten at work last week. I took her to my vet this Saturday and she tested positive for feline leukemia. I already have two kittens, 7 months and 3 months old, so there is no possibility for Rockie to join my household. I have heard that there are people who keep or foster cats with leukemia. Do you know of anyone who does this? She is a friendly, sweet, delightful little tortie who gets along wonderfully with my two dogs. She is approximately 7 weeks old and weighs in at a whopping 1.11 lbs. Thanks for any help you can provide. Susan Macias (909) 730-9762 ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
